Free parking spaces set to be replaced by harbourside dining area

PARKING LOSS: The free parking bays next to the harbour on Custom House Quay are to be temporarily replaced with outdoor seating

PARKING LOSS: The free parking bays next to the harbour on Custom House Quay are to be temporarily replaced with outdoor seating

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WEYMOUTH is set to lose more free parking this month if a trial goes ahead to create al fresco dining areas on the harbourside.

The plans, which would see tables and chairs replace some parking bays, have been welcomed by harbourside venues.

But there are claims council chiefs have failed to inform everyone who could be affected.

Weymouth and Portland Borough Council is in discussions with Dorset County Council about temporarily changing some of the one-hour parking bays along Custom House Quay this summer into roped-off outside dining areas. An announcement will be made next week on the experiment.

It is part of the borough’s parking revolution which has seen a shake-up of parking provision including the loss of free spaces in certain areas such as the Pavilion forecourt, and pay and display charges reduced.

When dining area plans were first discussed, assurances were given there would be opportunity for comment via a traffic regulation order (TRO). But now it looks as though a trial could go ahead without consultation just for the summer to see if it is a success.

Borough transport spokesman Christine James said it was hoped to run the trial without the need for a TRO.

She said traffic would still flow down the road and the business of the harbour, including loading of fish and deliveries to bars, would continue as normal. Disabled spaces would also be provided.

But local fisherman Andy Alcock has lambasted the plan as a ‘disaster waiting to happen’ due to the mix of diners and traffic and claimed people who work around the harbour had not been kept informed.

While the council say areas will be made available for loading and deliveries, Mr Alcock said details needed to be discussed before announcing a trial.

He said: “They’ve asked half a dozen restaurants who want to get customers in but no-one else.

“They forget it’s a working harbour. Whatever happened to the traffic notice to inform everyone?”

Colin Horne of Weyfish said: “The council has assured me vans will still have access to the shop but we will have to see.

“I am a bit disappointed that they are taking away the parking though because there is hardly any left at the bottom end of the town and with shops closing it is just dying. It feels like the council is trying to rush it through.”

Firoz Kanji collected more than 800 signatures in a petition last year against moves to remove the parking bays.

He said: “The town is not just owned by four of five businesses along the harbour.

“The council should ask all businesses. Free parking in the town centre is essential to the survival of small businesses.”

Cllr James said it was a trial to see if it worked, adding: “It’s a working harbour as well. We know the fishermen have to work.

“We are already talking to Dorset County Council about it. Once they have had a look and had a chat, they ill come back to us and say yes or no.”

Traders welcome the move

MANAGER of Sharky’s Jason Seale said he thought the idea was good for the summer so people could enjoy the views, but described it as a ‘double-edged sword,’ as free parking for people using businesses would be removed.

He added: “I think it’s a great idea for the summer. The harbour is the focal point of the town.”

Tom Flood, manager of Floods restaurant, said he would welcome the move.

He said: “It would be a lovely idea for the summer, especially with the weather we have had.”

Keith Treggiden, manager at Rendezvous, said: “I think it’s amazing.

“It’s been a long time coming to bring Weymouth harbour into the 21st century.

“People want to be able to sit and watch the world go by and what a better place to do it than our beautiful harbourside.”

Mark Vaughan, owner of Vaughan’s, said: “We welcome the idea, it’s all to do with making Weymouth a better place.”

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5:26am Fri 1 Aug 14

philthebook says...

What the hell are they going to do next, the bay's oh the harbour are great for a quick stop off.
Who would like to sit outside with all the traffic going past.
Is this another bright idea of C.J. what next close the car parks and let McDonalds have an outside seating area. How the hell do we get rid of these idiots killing our town.
What the hell are they going to do next, the bay's oh the harbour are great for a quick stop off. Who would like to sit outside with all the traffic going past. Is this another bright idea of C.J. what next close the car parks and let McDonalds have an outside seating area. How the hell do we get rid of these idiots killing our town. philthebook
  • Score: 17

6:02am Fri 1 Aug 14

philthebook says...

Oh did I forget that we have a slight problem with seagull's that will leave an extra deposit on your table.
Oh did I forget that we have a slight problem with seagull's that will leave an extra deposit on your table. philthebook
  • Score: 29

6:20am Fri 1 Aug 14

Simesen says...

Yet another move to stop me from shopping in Weymouth town!
Yet another move to stop me from shopping in Weymouth town! Simesen
  • Score: 16

6:23am Fri 1 Aug 14

Simesen says...

Please make some of the nearby 'Pay' places free to compensate
Please make some of the nearby 'Pay' places free to compensate Simesen
  • Score: 27

6:26am Fri 1 Aug 14

CaughtJester says...

No doubt there will be teething problems but this is a step in the right direction.

Weymouth needs to do more with its assets. It needn't be 24/7, though (and nor should it be, probably); you could instead restrict parking at particular times (especially weekends and summer evenings).

I'd prefer to see it go further at these times and restrict all traffic except that relating to Harbour work and local businesses.
No doubt there will be teething problems but this is a step in the right direction. Weymouth needs to do more with its assets. It needn't be 24/7, though (and nor should it be, probably); you could instead restrict parking at particular times (especially weekends and summer evenings). I'd prefer to see it go further at these times and restrict all traffic except that relating to Harbour work and local businesses. CaughtJester
  • Score: 33

6:35am Fri 1 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

Well I hope the businesses that buy all their new furniture get to use it again next year! But this is ridiculous having traffic and diners, how bizarre.

Lets just come up with half a plan, chuck it up in the air, and hope it works that's what this is.
Well I hope the businesses that buy all their new furniture get to use it again next year! But this is ridiculous having traffic and diners, how bizarre. Lets just come up with half a plan, chuck it up in the air, and hope it works that's what this is. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 17

6:37am Fri 1 Aug 14

mrgoo says...

we will now have the best fed seagulls in the country, no longer will they dine on 'run of the mill' fish and chips, they will feast on lobster from vaughans or steak and ale pie from the george (i doubt they will choose the vous food) i will enjoy summer nights with a pint watching the grocles having dinner stolen and then deposited back on the plates for top prices!
we will now have the best fed seagulls in the country, no longer will they dine on 'run of the mill' fish and chips, they will feast on lobster from vaughans or steak and ale pie from the george (i doubt they will choose the vous food) i will enjoy summer nights with a pint watching the grocles having dinner stolen and then deposited back on the plates for top prices! mrgoo
  • Score: 6

6:57am Fri 1 Aug 14

PHonnor says...

Once this is up and running maybe have a look at doing the same with the stretch of the seafront from the kings statue to the pavilion, even if it's just widening the pavement.
Once this is up and running maybe have a look at doing the same with the stretch of the seafront from the kings statue to the pavilion, even if it's just widening the pavement. PHonnor
  • Score: 29

7:10am Fri 1 Aug 14

ThomasFairfax says...

Complete lunacy. Just another Weymouth and Portland Borough Council scheme to force shoppers, local visitors and tourists, to use council run car parking.
Parking is already at a premium in Weymouth as many spaces were removed for the "Olympics" fiasco and have never been replaced, in addition to the other parking slots removed since. To take away even more spaces now is unbelievable.
It would be interesting to know how much council income from car parking has been generated over the past 12 to 18 months in comparison to previous periods. Even with the recently announced "reduction" in charges, it is likely that the gross income has increased and with the yet to be announced hike in charges, car parking in Weymouth has become a "nice little earner". Add this to the continuing "No change given" scam on the ticket machines, the motorist provides a very convenient cash cow.
Complete lunacy. Just another Weymouth and Portland Borough Council scheme to force shoppers, local visitors and tourists, to use council run car parking. Parking is already at a premium in Weymouth as many spaces were removed for the "Olympics" fiasco and have never been replaced, in addition to the other parking slots removed since. To take away even more spaces now is unbelievable. It would be interesting to know how much council income from car parking has been generated over the past 12 to 18 months in comparison to previous periods. Even with the recently announced "reduction" in charges, it is likely that the gross income has increased and with the yet to be announced hike in charges, car parking in Weymouth has become a "nice little earner". Add this to the continuing "No change given" scam on the ticket machines, the motorist provides a very convenient cash cow. ThomasFairfax
  • Score: -14

7:36am Fri 1 Aug 14

Shock-Horror says...

What a lovely place to eat, and the smell from the trawler landing area at this point will add an amazing experience to your dining as you throw up from the small. the dining are can be called 'eat and puke' :)
What a lovely place to eat, and the smell from the trawler landing area at this point will add an amazing experience to your dining as you throw up from the small. the dining are can be called 'eat and puke' :) Shock-Horror
  • Score: -13

7:37am Fri 1 Aug 14

weymouth donkey says...

so where are those thursday night bikers who hog free places going to go now ?
so where are those thursday night bikers who hog free places going to go now ? weymouth donkey
  • Score: 21

7:53am Fri 1 Aug 14

PHonnor says...

ThomasFairfax wrote:
Complete lunacy. Just another Weymouth and Portland Borough Council scheme to force shoppers, local visitors and tourists, to use council run car parking.
Parking is already at a premium in Weymouth as many spaces were removed for the "Olympics" fiasco and have never been replaced, in addition to the other parking slots removed since. To take away even more spaces now is unbelievable.
It would be interesting to know how much council income from car parking has been generated over the past 12 to 18 months in comparison to previous periods. Even with the recently announced "reduction" in charges, it is likely that the gross income has increased and with the yet to be announced hike in charges, car parking in Weymouth has become a "nice little earner". Add this to the continuing "No change given" scam on the ticket machines, the motorist provides a very convenient cash cow.
It's a trial, if it doesn't work then at least the council has had a go. It's virtually impossible to get a parking spot down there which means you have the harbour clogged with drivers looking for free parking which isn't nice for anyone. I do agree the loss of spaces have to be found elsewhere, maybe a reverse of the decision of the pavilion parking so at least those who want to can pop into town for an hour. Ultimately Weymouths narrow roads were not designed for the amount of traffic there is.
[quote][p][bold]ThomasFairfax[/bold] wrote: Complete lunacy. Just another Weymouth and Portland Borough Council scheme to force shoppers, local visitors and tourists, to use council run car parking. Parking is already at a premium in Weymouth as many spaces were removed for the "Olympics" fiasco and have never been replaced, in addition to the other parking slots removed since. To take away even more spaces now is unbelievable. It would be interesting to know how much council income from car parking has been generated over the past 12 to 18 months in comparison to previous periods. Even with the recently announced "reduction" in charges, it is likely that the gross income has increased and with the yet to be announced hike in charges, car parking in Weymouth has become a "nice little earner". Add this to the continuing "No change given" scam on the ticket machines, the motorist provides a very convenient cash cow.[/p][/quote]It's a trial, if it doesn't work then at least the council has had a go. It's virtually impossible to get a parking spot down there which means you have the harbour clogged with drivers looking for free parking which isn't nice for anyone. I do agree the loss of spaces have to be found elsewhere, maybe a reverse of the decision of the pavilion parking so at least those who want to can pop into town for an hour. Ultimately Weymouths narrow roads were not designed for the amount of traffic there is. PHonnor
  • Score: 51

7:53am Fri 1 Aug 14

arlbergbahn says...

At last the councillors have a sensible idea! Let's face it, cars rarely enhance the environment do they. Keep them outside the centre altogether would be preferable, but it's a start, if a modest one. Remember how the Esplanade was closed to traffic during the Olympic 2012? Wasn't that nice.
At last the councillors have a sensible idea! Let's face it, cars rarely enhance the environment do they. Keep them outside the centre altogether would be preferable, but it's a start, if a modest one. Remember how the Esplanade was closed to traffic during the Olympic 2012? Wasn't that nice. arlbergbahn
  • Score: 31

7:56am Fri 1 Aug 14

arlbergbahn says...

philthebook wrote:
What the hell are they going to do next, the bay's oh the harbour are great for a quick stop off.
Who would like to sit outside with all the traffic going past.
Is this another bright idea of C.J. what next close the car parks and let McDonalds have an outside seating area. How the hell do we get rid of these idiots killing our town.
sorry, what does Mcdonalds have to do with it? Or was your argument not meant to be coherent, just as long as you could have a rant about the council?
[quote][p][bold]philthebook[/bold] wrote: What the hell are they going to do next, the bay's oh the harbour are great for a quick stop off. Who would like to sit outside with all the traffic going past. Is this another bright idea of C.J. what next close the car parks and let McDonalds have an outside seating area. How the hell do we get rid of these idiots killing our town.[/p][/quote]sorry, what does Mcdonalds have to do with it? Or was your argument not meant to be coherent, just as long as you could have a rant about the council? arlbergbahn
  • Score: 28

7:57am Fri 1 Aug 14

boobooweymouth says...

This will be a massive improvement. Shame the road can't be closed altogether
This will be a massive improvement. Shame the road can't be closed altogether boobooweymouth
  • Score: 39

8:04am Fri 1 Aug 14

Rocksalt says...

I agree with the view that town's need to exploit their best assets. In Weymouth that means the harbour. Using it for a relatively small number of short-term parking places is a real waste. And places that are serious about attracting visitors simply don't do it, any more than you are allowed to park in St Peter's in Rome, or In Trafalgar Square. Interestingly, thinking of London there are probably as many if not more gulls there and people somehow manage to eat outside in quite large numbers.

Find some short-term spaces elsewhere if you must, although I suspect this just encourages people to crawl round looking for a space.
I agree with the view that town's need to exploit their best assets. In Weymouth that means the harbour. Using it for a relatively small number of short-term parking places is a real waste. And places that are serious about attracting visitors simply don't do it, any more than you are allowed to park in St Peter's in Rome, or In Trafalgar Square. Interestingly, thinking of London there are probably as many if not more gulls there and people somehow manage to eat outside in quite large numbers. Find some short-term spaces elsewhere if you must, although I suspect this just encourages people to crawl round looking for a space. Rocksalt
  • Score: 23

8:08am Fri 1 Aug 14

timgriffiths1962@gmail.com says...

the revenue raised from these establishments should pay for free car parking, but we all know that would nt be the case, as it is the pavement is very dangerous because the council is not policing the seating and a certain restaurant is trying to maximise it,s space forcing pedestrians into the path of traffic.
the revenue raised from these establishments should pay for free car parking, but we all know that would nt be the case, as it is the pavement is very dangerous because the council is not policing the seating and a certain restaurant is trying to maximise it,s space forcing pedestrians into the path of traffic. timgriffiths1962@gmail.com
  • Score: -2

8:51am Fri 1 Aug 14

echo-reader says...

With this council , we won't have to worry about the tourist trade as there trying their best to lose a nd mess it up ,who is going to clear up the rubbish , who is going to get the stuff out of the sea , the do gooders stopped a RNLI charity balloon race because of maybe a balloon going into the sea
It's a car park place for a reason , the only people that would benefit from it is the food outlets and the pubs
People already sit on the seawall , they have managed to do it for the last god knows how many years ,don't change what isn't broke
With this council , we won't have to worry about the tourist trade as there trying their best to lose a nd mess it up ,who is going to clear up the rubbish , who is going to get the stuff out of the sea , the do gooders stopped a RNLI charity balloon race because of maybe a balloon going into the sea It's a car park place for a reason , the only people that would benefit from it is the food outlets and the pubs People already sit on the seawall , they have managed to do it for the last god knows how many years ,don't change what isn't broke echo-reader
  • Score: -7

9:05am Fri 1 Aug 14

shuttling says...

Simesen wrote:
Yet another move to stop me from shopping in Weymouth town!
Just pay for parking like most of us do!
[quote][p][bold]Simesen[/bold] wrote: Yet another move to stop me from shopping in Weymouth town![/p][/quote]Just pay for parking like most of us do! shuttling
  • Score: 37

9:38am Fri 1 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
At last the councillors have a sensible idea! Let's face it, cars rarely enhance the environment do they. Keep them outside the centre altogether would be preferable, but it's a start, if a modest one. Remember how the Esplanade was closed to traffic during the Olympic 2012? Wasn't that nice.
It would be if that is what they are doing but it's not. All they doing is ONE thing, and that is removing the free parking and charging the restaurants/pubs to have chairs and tables in the space created. Thats it. Nothing else.

I do agree that will reduce traffic down there, it's bound to, but the seagull issue is going to get worse.

I think it should be traffic free myself, access via a gate to let traffic in to deliver etc etc. Put a man on the gate, create a job or two. Charge entry of 50p and that's his wages paid, that will cut down the number of times people enter. In other words create a toll area.

For those who want to park quickly for free, I don't think they have a massive case, because you can either A) Park until 9.30am free anywhere, so that gives you 30 minutes. or B) Pay just 50p for an hour during the day, now that's not bad.
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: At last the councillors have a sensible idea! Let's face it, cars rarely enhance the environment do they. Keep them outside the centre altogether would be preferable, but it's a start, if a modest one. Remember how the Esplanade was closed to traffic during the Olympic 2012? Wasn't that nice.[/p][/quote]It would be if that is what they are doing but it's not. All they doing is ONE thing, and that is removing the free parking and charging the restaurants/pubs to have chairs and tables in the space created. Thats it. Nothing else. I do agree that will reduce traffic down there, it's bound to, but the seagull issue is going to get worse. I think it should be traffic free myself, access via a gate to let traffic in to deliver etc etc. Put a man on the gate, create a job or two. Charge entry of 50p and that's his wages paid, that will cut down the number of times people enter. In other words create a toll area. For those who want to park quickly for free, I don't think they have a massive case, because you can either A) Park until 9.30am free anywhere, so that gives you 30 minutes. or B) Pay just 50p for an hour during the day, now that's not bad. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 10

9:45am Fri 1 Aug 14

scubadude says...

What a lovely place to eat, parked cars either side, queue or=f running cars behind you pumping fumes into your food, constant stream of tourists in front of you blocking the view of the harbour and seagull poop falling from above... I think I'd rather eat sat in the middle of the Jurassic roundabout looking at the overpriced rocks on sticks!

For this to work you would need to completely close the road, otherwise its just more lunatic raving from the morons in council.

Local business NEED some free 30min parking for banking and deliveries, lets have Westham bridge carpark free for 30min only as compensation for the Pavillion and Harbourside.
What a lovely place to eat, parked cars either side, queue or=f running cars behind you pumping fumes into your food, constant stream of tourists in front of you blocking the view of the harbour and seagull poop falling from above... I think I'd rather eat sat in the middle of the Jurassic roundabout looking at the overpriced rocks on sticks! For this to work you would need to completely close the road, otherwise its just more lunatic raving from the morons in council. Local business NEED some free 30min parking for banking and deliveries, lets have Westham bridge carpark free for 30min only as compensation for the Pavillion and Harbourside. scubadude
  • Score: 5

9:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

ScruppyMan says...

echo-reader wrote:
With this council , we won't have to worry about the tourist trade as there trying their best to lose a nd mess it up ,who is going to clear up the rubbish , who is going to get the stuff out of the sea , the do gooders stopped a RNLI charity balloon race because of maybe a balloon going into the sea
It's a car park place for a reason , the only people that would benefit from it is the food outlets and the pubs
People already sit on the seawall , they have managed to do it for the last god knows how many years ,don't change what isn't broke
quite right

councillors job requirements must be that they are qualified morons
[quote][p][bold]echo-reader[/bold] wrote: With this council , we won't have to worry about the tourist trade as there trying their best to lose a nd mess it up ,who is going to clear up the rubbish , who is going to get the stuff out of the sea , the do gooders stopped a RNLI charity balloon race because of maybe a balloon going into the sea It's a car park place for a reason , the only people that would benefit from it is the food outlets and the pubs People already sit on the seawall , they have managed to do it for the last god knows how many years ,don't change what isn't broke[/p][/quote]quite right councillors job requirements must be that they are qualified morons ScruppyMan
  • Score: -3

9:49am Fri 1 Aug 14

ScruppyMan says...

boobooweymouth wrote:
This will be a massive improvement. Shame the road can't be closed altogether
obviously councillor material or a comedian ah both the same
[quote][p][bold]boobooweymouth[/bold] wrote: This will be a massive improvement. Shame the road can't be closed altogether[/p][/quote]obviously councillor material or a comedian ah both the same ScruppyMan
  • Score: -14

9:53am Fri 1 Aug 14

weymouthresident says...

Congratulations Council - another reason for people to realise how stupid you can be. I hope the businesses gaining space will be paying an increased council tax for the privilege. There's barely anywhere to park for a short time without paying extortionate fees as it is and this area affords just that. More people (locals) will be chased up to Dorchester to do their shopping. Surely this scheme is also dangerous. If they're still going allow vehicles along the harbourside it will only be a matter of time before someone is injured (or worse).

At least this will give that awful woman from Vaughan's more excuses to be rude to her customers!
Congratulations Council - another reason for people to realise how stupid you can be. I hope the businesses gaining space will be paying an increased council tax for the privilege. There's barely anywhere to park for a short time without paying extortionate fees as it is and this area affords just that. More people (locals) will be chased up to Dorchester to do their shopping. Surely this scheme is also dangerous. If they're still going allow vehicles along the harbourside it will only be a matter of time before someone is injured (or worse). At least this will give that awful woman from Vaughan's more excuses to be rude to her customers! weymouthresident
  • Score: -12

10:08am Fri 1 Aug 14

melcombe boy says...

More 'F' zone resident parking spaces removed. In the last 5 years more and more 'F'' zone resident shared parking bays have been removed to satisfy the al fresco culture,
I support it completely but I wish the Council would offer residents who live in the 'F' zone the same parking rights that tourists get who stay in 'F' zone guest houses. They are allowed to park for free for the whole of their stay in certain car parks.
Level playing field please council!
More 'F' zone resident parking spaces removed. In the last 5 years more and more 'F'' zone resident shared parking bays have been removed to satisfy the al fresco culture, I support it completely but I wish the Council would offer residents who live in the 'F' zone the same parking rights that tourists get who stay in 'F' zone guest houses. They are allowed to park for free for the whole of their stay in certain car parks. Level playing field please council! melcombe boy
  • Score: 14

10:12am Fri 1 Aug 14

melcombe boy says...

melcombe boy wrote:
More 'F' zone resident parking spaces removed. In the last 5 years more and more 'F'' zone resident shared parking bays have been removed to satisfy the al fresco culture,
I support it completely but I wish the Council would offer residents who live in the 'F' zone the same parking rights that tourists get who stay in 'F' zone guest houses. They are allowed to park for free for the whole of their stay in certain car parks.
Level playing field please council!
Just as an addition. I don't expect to park free. I pay for my permit and don't mind doing so. I just want the same chance to park(which is impossible most of the time in the Summer) as the the hotel staying visitors!!!!
[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: More 'F' zone resident parking spaces removed. In the last 5 years more and more 'F'' zone resident shared parking bays have been removed to satisfy the al fresco culture, I support it completely but I wish the Council would offer residents who live in the 'F' zone the same parking rights that tourists get who stay in 'F' zone guest houses. They are allowed to park for free for the whole of their stay in certain car parks. Level playing field please council![/p][/quote]Just as an addition. I don't expect to park free. I pay for my permit and don't mind doing so. I just want the same chance to park(which is impossible most of the time in the Summer) as the the hotel staying visitors!!!! melcombe boy
  • Score: 13

10:17am Fri 1 Aug 14

bentleyboy says...

Who on earth are going to want to sit there ? with the constant smell of fish from the fish monger, noise from the boats unloading their catches, exhaust fumes from car drivers driving by looking for car parking . I pity the poor waiters risking life and limb running across the road dodging the traffic and the brave seagulls to try and serve the food ? The view of the harbour will surely be obliterated by the hordes of sightseers walking and sitting on the harbour side edge enjoying their fish and chips , preferring that to the expensive food from the restaurants there.. The seagulls will surely have a fine time ahead pinching the food and decorating the clothes of the diners. I wonder when this mad idea is going to happen ? Only a few weeks left of the summer traffic and 'happy holidaymakers ' left anyway thank goodness !
Who on earth are going to want to sit there ? with the constant smell of fish from the fish monger, noise from the boats unloading their catches, exhaust fumes from car drivers driving by looking for car parking . I pity the poor waiters risking life and limb running across the road dodging the traffic and the brave seagulls to try and serve the food ? The view of the harbour will surely be obliterated by the hordes of sightseers walking and sitting on the harbour side edge enjoying their fish and chips , preferring that to the expensive food from the restaurants there.. The seagulls will surely have a fine time ahead pinching the food and decorating the clothes of the diners. I wonder when this mad idea is going to happen ? Only a few weeks left of the summer traffic and 'happy holidaymakers ' left anyway thank goodness ! bentleyboy
  • Score: -13

10:38am Fri 1 Aug 14

paulst says...

Sounds like a good idea to me, if it's managed properly.
What could be nicer on a Summers evening, then sitting outside and having something to eat by the harbour.
I wonder how often the moaners actually use the parking spaces that are being closed for a month?
it does seem that any slight change to anything in Weymouth is met by vitriol by readers of the echo. The same people who lambast the council for doing nothing and letting the town die. Dorchester was prepared to try something new, and they've now got a very successful development which seems to be attracting new restaurants and shops daily.
Weymouth needs to make the most of its natural resources, and if that means losing a few parking spaces over the summer, it's hardly the end of the world is it?
Sounds like a good idea to me, if it's managed properly. What could be nicer on a Summers evening, then sitting outside and having something to eat by the harbour. I wonder how often the moaners actually use the parking spaces that are being closed for a month? it does seem that any slight change to anything in Weymouth is met by vitriol by readers of the echo. The same people who lambast the council for doing nothing and letting the town die. Dorchester was prepared to try something new, and they've now got a very successful development which seems to be attracting new restaurants and shops daily. Weymouth needs to make the most of its natural resources, and if that means losing a few parking spaces over the summer, it's hardly the end of the world is it? paulst
  • Score: 32

10:44am Fri 1 Aug 14

caz maz says...

Lets see if the restaurants get insurance for there staff to cross the road while carrying out there work...............I bet they cant! No insurance company is going insure neither staff or customers while carrying plates of food and drinks across a road open to traffic. Madness!
Lets see if the restaurants get insurance for there staff to cross the road while carrying out there work...............I bet they cant! No insurance company is going insure neither staff or customers while carrying plates of food and drinks across a road open to traffic. Madness! caz maz
  • Score: -10

10:44am Fri 1 Aug 14

bollywood says...

Is there a competition among councillors to see who can come up with the most ridiculous suggestion? The town needs these parking spaces and boats need to be able to dock without having to negotiate tables and chairs. That is the last place I would want to sit and eat a meal.
Is there a competition among councillors to see who can come up with the most ridiculous suggestion? The town needs these parking spaces and boats need to be able to dock without having to negotiate tables and chairs. That is the last place I would want to sit and eat a meal. bollywood
  • Score: -11

10:54am Fri 1 Aug 14

Get a grip says...

Many of the restaurants already have seating outside.

So the problems of car noise/fumes and seagulls has already been delt with.

But the harboure is one of the towns best assets and we need to promote that.
Many of the restaurants already have seating outside. So the problems of car noise/fumes and seagulls has already been delt with. But the harboure is one of the towns best assets and we need to promote that. Get a grip
  • Score: 34

11:10am Fri 1 Aug 14

7drawers says...

There is a difference between seagulls in Trafalgar Square and Weymouth harbour... Working fishing boats!!!
Ok lets try it for a month... BUT why the obsession with copying a European cafe culture... How many evenings a year are really warm enough to sit outside and watch the world go by without a warm coat!
There is a difference between seagulls in Trafalgar Square and Weymouth harbour... Working fishing boats!!! Ok lets try it for a month... BUT why the obsession with copying a European cafe culture... How many evenings a year are really warm enough to sit outside and watch the world go by without a warm coat! 7drawers
  • Score: 0

11:22am Fri 1 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

7drawers wrote:
There is a difference between seagulls in Trafalgar Square and Weymouth harbour... Working fishing boats!!!
Ok lets try it for a month... BUT why the obsession with copying a European cafe culture... How many evenings a year are really warm enough to sit outside and watch the world go by without a warm coat!
They are not seagulls in Trafalgar square they are Pigeons.
But essentially you are correct because both birds go to the area to get food. In Trafalgar square they reduced the number of birds by introducing a fine of £500 for feeding them. It worked. That of course is much harder to do with the fish attracting them. But they will grab things. I know someone the other day walking down the high street had a WHOLE sandwich stolen by a Seagull swooping down and taken it from hand. They will LOVE it with tables right by the harbourside absolutely love it.

Look I want to sit out there with a drink, no problem very nice, but FOOD no chance!!! Well it will be a laugh anyway, because it is not going to work.
[quote][p][bold]7drawers[/bold] wrote: There is a difference between seagulls in Trafalgar Square and Weymouth harbour... Working fishing boats!!! Ok lets try it for a month... BUT why the obsession with copying a European cafe culture... How many evenings a year are really warm enough to sit outside and watch the world go by without a warm coat![/p][/quote]They are not seagulls in Trafalgar square they are Pigeons. But essentially you are correct because both birds go to the area to get food. In Trafalgar square they reduced the number of birds by introducing a fine of £500 for feeding them. It worked. That of course is much harder to do with the fish attracting them. But they will grab things. I know someone the other day walking down the high street had a WHOLE sandwich stolen by a Seagull swooping down and taken it from hand. They will LOVE it with tables right by the harbourside absolutely love it. Look I want to sit out there with a drink, no problem very nice, but FOOD no chance!!! Well it will be a laugh anyway, because it is not going to work. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 8

11:38am Fri 1 Aug 14

Woodgate says...

WPBC's lack of real world commercial understanding is astounding. Harbour side dining and traffic free zones are great but this is a low income seasonal resort and the area in question is anything but a prime trading pitch that will attract high spenders.These changes are tinkering that will benefit few, annoy many and wont change much. If councillors and officers were not obsessed with trying to keep control of everything we might see some interest from the private sector in helping them sort this mess out. The Brewery Square developers must be rolling around laughing.
WPBC's lack of real world commercial understanding is astounding. Harbour side dining and traffic free zones are great but this is a low income seasonal resort and the area in question is anything but a prime trading pitch that will attract high spenders.These changes are tinkering that will benefit few, annoy many and wont change much. If councillors and officers were not obsessed with trying to keep control of everything we might see some interest from the private sector in helping them sort this mess out. The Brewery Square developers must be rolling around laughing. Woodgate
  • Score: -7

11:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

Weymike says...

All this with no consultation or legally required posted notification ? Also there are few enough (paid for) parking permits in zones F and G so presumably it will be impossible for local residents to park ? All the local businesses from Banks to building societies, co-ops, tescos, 99p stores etc will suffer from the pop in and buy one customers. But hey-ho a few food outlets who don't often fill the spaces they have will benefit !!
All this with no consultation or legally required posted notification ? Also there are few enough (paid for) parking permits in zones F and G so presumably it will be impossible for local residents to park ? All the local businesses from Banks to building societies, co-ops, tescos, 99p stores etc will suffer from the pop in and buy one customers. But hey-ho a few food outlets who don't often fill the spaces they have will benefit !! Weymike
  • Score: 0

11:49am Fri 1 Aug 14

WeymouthWheels says...

Blimey, what a miserable bunch. It's a trial - let's see how it goes. Weymouth, after all, is a holiday destination and if this brings a sense of harbourside dining (as you get almost everywhere abroad) to one of the best parts of Weymouth, what's the harm in trying?
Blimey, what a miserable bunch. It's a trial - let's see how it goes. Weymouth, after all, is a holiday destination and if this brings a sense of harbourside dining (as you get almost everywhere abroad) to one of the best parts of Weymouth, what's the harm in trying? WeymouthWheels
  • Score: 29

12:05pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Laughing gnome says...

paulst wrote:
Sounds like a good idea to me, if it's managed properly.
What could be nicer on a Summers evening, then sitting outside and having something to eat by the harbour.
I wonder how often the moaners actually use the parking spaces that are being closed for a month?
it does seem that any slight change to anything in Weymouth is met by vitriol by readers of the echo. The same people who lambast the council for doing nothing and letting the town die. Dorchester was prepared to try something new, and they've now got a very successful development which seems to be attracting new restaurants and shops daily.
Weymouth needs to make the most of its natural resources, and if that means losing a few parking spaces over the summer, it's hardly the end of the world is it?
Well said
[quote][p][bold]paulst[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a good idea to me, if it's managed properly. What could be nicer on a Summers evening, then sitting outside and having something to eat by the harbour. I wonder how often the moaners actually use the parking spaces that are being closed for a month? it does seem that any slight change to anything in Weymouth is met by vitriol by readers of the echo. The same people who lambast the council for doing nothing and letting the town die. Dorchester was prepared to try something new, and they've now got a very successful development which seems to be attracting new restaurants and shops daily. Weymouth needs to make the most of its natural resources, and if that means losing a few parking spaces over the summer, it's hardly the end of the world is it?[/p][/quote]Well said Laughing gnome
  • Score: 29

12:32pm Fri 1 Aug 14

martaaay2 says...

mmm cant wait to try the seabass from floods served with a delightful dressing of vehicle exhaust gases
mmm cant wait to try the seabass from floods served with a delightful dressing of vehicle exhaust gases martaaay2
  • Score: -18

12:46pm Fri 1 Aug 14

southill massive says...

If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.
If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February. southill massive
  • Score: -23

12:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

paulst says...

southill massive wrote:
If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.
lets not bother improving the town, if it interferes with your haircut!
[quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.[/p][/quote]lets not bother improving the town, if it interferes with your haircut! paulst
  • Score: 26

1:04pm Fri 1 Aug 14

seashellbill says...

Another half baked, ill thought out scheme. Who would want to sit on the harbour side surrounded by smelly fishing boats and I bet the snobs in their big boats won't be too happy, having loads of plebs watching them drink their Pimm's or G & T's! Oh and where will those people who use these short stay bays park now? Why not just make the harbourside a pedestrianised area, except for delivery and loading?
Another half baked, ill thought out scheme. Who would want to sit on the harbour side surrounded by smelly fishing boats and I bet the snobs in their big boats won't be too happy, having loads of plebs watching them drink their Pimm's or G & T's! Oh and where will those people who use these short stay bays park now? Why not just make the harbourside a pedestrianised area, except for delivery and loading? seashellbill
  • Score: -17

1:12pm Fri 1 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

southill massive wrote:
If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.
So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day.

IDEA ONE
If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town!
IDEA TWO
If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol
IDEA THREE
Use your bus pass and travel in for free
[quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.[/p][/quote]So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day. IDEA ONE If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town! IDEA TWO If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol IDEA THREE Use your bus pass and travel in for free MrTomSmith
  • Score: 29

1:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

JoeyJo says...

southill massive wrote:
If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.
It is also my town, I live here and pay council tax. I do not use the car parks. Why should I subsidise your parking?
[quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.[/p][/quote]It is also my town, I live here and pay council tax. I do not use the car parks. Why should I subsidise your parking? JoeyJo
  • Score: 30

1:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

southill massive says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
southill massive wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.
So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day. IDEA ONE If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town! IDEA TWO If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol IDEA THREE Use your bus pass and travel in for free
1. I cannot go in at 8.45 as I have to go to work. Most of the time i would go to town at lunch time.

2. Why should I pay any money to park.

3. Not all of old people. I will not get a bus pass for another 23 years

The shop owners want more people to use there stores then we need more free spaces. Lots of people go to town, to go to one shop, in and out.
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.[/p][/quote]So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day. IDEA ONE If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town! IDEA TWO If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol IDEA THREE Use your bus pass and travel in for free[/p][/quote]1. I cannot go in at 8.45 as I have to go to work. Most of the time i would go to town at lunch time. 2. Why should I pay any money to park. 3. Not all of old people. I will not get a bus pass for another 23 years The shop owners want more people to use there stores then we need more free spaces. Lots of people go to town, to go to one shop, in and out. southill massive
  • Score: -14

2:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

southill massive wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
southill massive wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.
So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day. IDEA ONE If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town! IDEA TWO If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol IDEA THREE Use your bus pass and travel in for free
1. I cannot go in at 8.45 as I have to go to work. Most of the time i would go to town at lunch time.

2. Why should I pay any money to park.

3. Not all of old people. I will not get a bus pass for another 23 years

The shop owners want more people to use there stores then we need more free spaces. Lots of people go to town, to go to one shop, in and out.
I give up with you, if you can't see you have spent more money by driving out of town again, rather than paying 50p the 1st time, then its as bad flogging a dead horse isn't it really. I really strongly disagree with free spaces, they cause traffic to go around and around looking for that space. The council need revenue from Parking and have at long last got it about right. You can always park at ASDA or plenty of places just outside of town and god forbid WALK a little bit if you are that bothered about it.
[quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.[/p][/quote]So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day. IDEA ONE If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town! IDEA TWO If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol IDEA THREE Use your bus pass and travel in for free[/p][/quote]1. I cannot go in at 8.45 as I have to go to work. Most of the time i would go to town at lunch time. 2. Why should I pay any money to park. 3. Not all of old people. I will not get a bus pass for another 23 years The shop owners want more people to use there stores then we need more free spaces. Lots of people go to town, to go to one shop, in and out.[/p][/quote]I give up with you, if you can't see you have spent more money by driving out of town again, rather than paying 50p the 1st time, then its as bad flogging a dead horse isn't it really. I really strongly disagree with free spaces, they cause traffic to go around and around looking for that space. The council need revenue from Parking and have at long last got it about right. You can always park at ASDA or plenty of places just outside of town and god forbid WALK a little bit if you are that bothered about it. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 19

2:45pm Fri 1 Aug 14

JamesYoung says...

CaughtJester wrote:
No doubt there will be teething problems but this is a step in the right direction.

Weymouth needs to do more with its assets. It needn't be 24/7, though (and nor should it be, probably); you could instead restrict parking at particular times (especially weekends and summer evenings).

I'd prefer to see it go further at these times and restrict all traffic except that relating to Harbour work and local businesses.
I agree entirely.
There is an extra benefit from this kind of development - research shows the more tables, the fewer drunks.
[quote][p][bold]CaughtJester[/bold] wrote: No doubt there will be teething problems but this is a step in the right direction. Weymouth needs to do more with its assets. It needn't be 24/7, though (and nor should it be, probably); you could instead restrict parking at particular times (especially weekends and summer evenings). I'd prefer to see it go further at these times and restrict all traffic except that relating to Harbour work and local businesses.[/p][/quote]I agree entirely. There is an extra benefit from this kind of development - research shows the more tables, the fewer drunks. JamesYoung
  • Score: 19

3:30pm Fri 1 Aug 14

hdman says...

weymouth donkey you are an ****, we thursday night bikers might take up spaces that a few cars might be able to park in,but i bet if you calculated the money we spend in the few hours parked there it will be considerably more than would come from the car occupants,we ALL also donate £1 every week to charity,AIR AMBULANCE and RNLI,also the holidaymakers who come amongst us love to chat to us and admire our machines and realise what a friendly bunch we are,ie:another tourist attraction on the harbour that doesn`t cost our council or you anything.
weymouth donkey you are an ****, we thursday night bikers might take up spaces that a few cars might be able to park in,but i bet if you calculated the money we spend in the few hours parked there it will be considerably more than would come from the car occupants,we ALL also donate £1 every week to charity,AIR AMBULANCE and RNLI,also the holidaymakers who come amongst us love to chat to us and admire our machines and realise what a friendly bunch we are,ie:another tourist attraction on the harbour that doesn`t cost our council or you anything. hdman
  • Score: 20

3:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

hdman wrote:
weymouth donkey you are an ****, we thursday night bikers might take up spaces that a few cars might be able to park in,but i bet if you calculated the money we spend in the few hours parked there it will be considerably more than would come from the car occupants,we ALL also donate £1 every week to charity,AIR AMBULANCE and RNLI,also the holidaymakers who come amongst us love to chat to us and admire our machines and realise what a friendly bunch we are,ie:another tourist attraction on the harbour that doesn`t cost our council or you anything.
Had you have not insulted weymouth donkey in the first sentence I would have agreed with you. But I think it might be over to Hope Square for you lot. But you are of course correct, the group raises a lot of money for charity, and does attract a buzz on a Thursday.
[quote][p][bold]hdman[/bold] wrote: weymouth donkey you are an ****, we thursday night bikers might take up spaces that a few cars might be able to park in,but i bet if you calculated the money we spend in the few hours parked there it will be considerably more than would come from the car occupants,we ALL also donate £1 every week to charity,AIR AMBULANCE and RNLI,also the holidaymakers who come amongst us love to chat to us and admire our machines and realise what a friendly bunch we are,ie:another tourist attraction on the harbour that doesn`t cost our council or you anything.[/p][/quote]Had you have not insulted weymouth donkey in the first sentence I would have agreed with you. But I think it might be over to Hope Square for you lot. But you are of course correct, the group raises a lot of money for charity, and does attract a buzz on a Thursday. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 2

3:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

1Kimberlin says...

There you go folks Christine James has told you where you can park for free. " Disable Spaces will be provided" So as 90% of able bodied people seem to think its OK to use these bays Everyonives bombs and scores a direct hit in your soup, Brilliant!!! " Did you enjoy your lunch darling" ?" yeah right should be happy. Oh except the people who are actually disabled.
So your sat eating your food and the grockles are all around you yamming and youwing, the Bridge is up and a stream of cars are spewing fumes onto your sarnie, then a shytalk dive bombs your table and scores a direct hit in your soup. " Did you enjoy your lunch dear?" Yeah right. Where are they going to park the Ambulance? Another reason why Dorchester is getting more and more visitors and is more appealing than Weymouth,.....I expect Christine Jmaes and her crew are hoping this will replace the revenue the Council will miss when Condor sails over the Horizon.... to Poole.... Just more proof that The Lunatics Have Finally Taken Over The Asylum
There you go folks Christine James has told you where you can park for free. " Disable Spaces will be provided" So as 90% of able bodied people seem to think its OK to use these bays Everyonives bombs and scores a direct hit in your soup, Brilliant!!! " Did you enjoy your lunch darling" ?" yeah right should be happy. Oh except the people who are actually disabled. So your sat eating your food and the grockles are all around you yamming and youwing, the Bridge is up and a stream of cars are spewing fumes onto your sarnie, then a shytalk dive bombs your table and scores a direct hit in your soup. " Did you enjoy your lunch dear?" Yeah right. Where are they going to park the Ambulance? Another reason why Dorchester is getting more and more visitors and is more appealing than Weymouth,.....I expect Christine Jmaes and her crew are hoping this will replace the revenue the Council will miss when Condor sails over the Horizon.... to Poole.... Just more proof that The Lunatics Have Finally Taken Over The Asylum 1Kimberlin
  • Score: -15

3:57pm Fri 1 Aug 14

paulst says...

1Kimberlin wrote:
There you go folks Christine James has told you where you can park for free. " Disable Spaces will be provided" So as 90% of able bodied people seem to think its OK to use these bays Everyonives bombs and scores a direct hit in your soup, Brilliant!!! " Did you enjoy your lunch darling" ?" yeah right should be happy. Oh except the people who are actually disabled.
So your sat eating your food and the grockles are all around you yamming and youwing, the Bridge is up and a stream of cars are spewing fumes onto your sarnie, then a shytalk dive bombs your table and scores a direct hit in your soup. " Did you enjoy your lunch dear?" Yeah right. Where are they going to park the Ambulance? Another reason why Dorchester is getting more and more visitors and is more appealing than Weymouth,.....I expect Christine Jmaes and her crew are hoping this will replace the revenue the Council will miss when Condor sails over the Horizon.... to Poole.... Just more proof that The Lunatics Have Finally Taken Over The Asylum
that's just noise.
did anyone understand any of that?
[quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: There you go folks Christine James has told you where you can park for free. " Disable Spaces will be provided" So as 90% of able bodied people seem to think its OK to use these bays Everyonives bombs and scores a direct hit in your soup, Brilliant!!! " Did you enjoy your lunch darling" ?" yeah right should be happy. Oh except the people who are actually disabled. So your sat eating your food and the grockles are all around you yamming and youwing, the Bridge is up and a stream of cars are spewing fumes onto your sarnie, then a shytalk dive bombs your table and scores a direct hit in your soup. " Did you enjoy your lunch dear?" Yeah right. Where are they going to park the Ambulance? Another reason why Dorchester is getting more and more visitors and is more appealing than Weymouth,.....I expect Christine Jmaes and her crew are hoping this will replace the revenue the Council will miss when Condor sails over the Horizon.... to Poole.... Just more proof that The Lunatics Have Finally Taken Over The Asylum[/p][/quote]that's just noise. did anyone understand any of that? paulst
  • Score: 23

4:09pm Fri 1 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

I thought it was funny "The Lunatic Have Finally Taken Over The Asylum" obvious in the right place to know then.
I thought it was funny "The Lunatic Have Finally Taken Over The Asylum" obvious in the right place to know then. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 7

4:26pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ViewPoyntz says...

This is a good idea. And while they're at it, how about putting bollards at the No Entry signs in Hope Square to reduce the traffic in the block paved area?
This is a good idea. And while they're at it, how about putting bollards at the No Entry signs in Hope Square to reduce the traffic in the block paved area? ViewPoyntz
  • Score: 4

4:50pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Naturalised southerner says...

caz maz wrote:
Lets see if the restaurants get insurance for there staff to cross the road while carrying out there work...............I bet they cant! No insurance company is going insure neither staff or customers while carrying plates of food and drinks across a road open to traffic. Madness!
I'll bet none of them inform their insurance companies that the staff have to dodge traffic whilst delivering food.
[quote][p][bold]caz maz[/bold] wrote: Lets see if the restaurants get insurance for there staff to cross the road while carrying out there work...............I bet they cant! No insurance company is going insure neither staff or customers while carrying plates of food and drinks across a road open to traffic. Madness![/p][/quote]I'll bet none of them inform their insurance companies that the staff have to dodge traffic whilst delivering food. Naturalised southerner
  • Score: 2

4:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

hdman says...

mr tom smith,it was just another name for donkey,i`m sure the traders in hope square would be happy for our revenue if that was to be the case.
mr tom smith,it was just another name for donkey,i`m sure the traders in hope square would be happy for our revenue if that was to be the case. hdman
  • Score: 5

5:12pm Fri 1 Aug 14

WykeReg says...

This sounds like the kind of good idea that folk come up with when they can't think of anything better. There a couple of problems that might get in the way of a good time.

The first one, the problem of seagulls, has been well covered here. But perhaps some tables reserved for birds and laid out with plastic cutlery so they don't hurt themselves might work.

The other problem is that this is England and summers are very optional. This year has been reasonably dry and mild, but such a summer only comes about once a decade. As for the other years you need to be dressed like a trawlerman to avoid drowning in the rain.

Regarding parking charges, I rarely go into town because I have an allergy - I react badly to the notion that in spite of being cruelly ripped off when I pay eye-watering levels of Council Tax I still have to pay to park. Only if I need some dire necessities do I venture into Weymouth. Fortunately there are no shops there selling dire necessities so I'm spared from dealing with the problem. If you want to know why online shopping is booming I'll give you the answer in one word - Weymouth.

But I'm sure Cllr. James will relish dining with her old friend Al Fresco.
This sounds like the kind of good idea that folk come up with when they can't think of anything better. There a couple of problems that might get in the way of a good time. The first one, the problem of seagulls, has been well covered here. But perhaps some tables reserved for birds and laid out with plastic cutlery so they don't hurt themselves might work. The other problem is that this is England and summers are very optional. This year has been reasonably dry and mild, but such a summer only comes about once a decade. As for the other years you need to be dressed like a trawlerman to avoid drowning in the rain. Regarding parking charges, I rarely go into town because I have an allergy - I react badly to the notion that in spite of being cruelly ripped off when I pay eye-watering levels of Council Tax I still have to pay to park. Only if I need some dire necessities do I venture into Weymouth. Fortunately there are no shops there selling dire necessities so I'm spared from dealing with the problem. If you want to know why online shopping is booming I'll give you the answer in one word - Weymouth. But I'm sure Cllr. James will relish dining with her old friend Al Fresco. WykeReg
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Johnny55 says...

So less free parking for locals, more places to eat for holiday makers. And what about the other 9 months of year apart from June, July and August when it's not nice enough to eat outside?

Ridiculous.

Terrible idea.
So less free parking for locals, more places to eat for holiday makers. And what about the other 9 months of year apart from June, July and August when it's not nice enough to eat outside? Ridiculous. Terrible idea. Johnny55
  • Score: 1

5:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

westbaywonder says...

Top tip-
If you get gull poop floating on your coffee.just add extra sugar and stir.
Tastes lovely!
Top tip- If you get gull poop floating on your coffee.just add extra sugar and stir. Tastes lovely! westbaywonder
  • Score: -7

5:32pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Johnny55 says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
southill massive wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
southill massive wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.
So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day. IDEA ONE If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town! IDEA TWO If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol IDEA THREE Use your bus pass and travel in for free
1. I cannot go in at 8.45 as I have to go to work. Most of the time i would go to town at lunch time.

2. Why should I pay any money to park.

3. Not all of old people. I will not get a bus pass for another 23 years

The shop owners want more people to use there stores then we need more free spaces. Lots of people go to town, to go to one shop, in and out.
I give up with you, if you can't see you have spent more money by driving out of town again, rather than paying 50p the 1st time, then its as bad flogging a dead horse isn't it really. I really strongly disagree with free spaces, they cause traffic to go around and around looking for that space. The council need revenue from Parking and have at long last got it about right. You can always park at ASDA or plenty of places just outside of town and god forbid WALK a little bit if you are that bothered about it.
The reason you give for disliking free spaces is so ironic it's painful. Surely you can see that if there were MORE free spaces, there would be a bigger turn over of people resulting in LESS traffic jams! Why should the guy have to walk miles to get to his LOCAL town centre?

If you hate free spaces so much I hope you pay a meter outside of your house every night to park there over night :)
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.[/p][/quote]So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day. IDEA ONE If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town! IDEA TWO If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol IDEA THREE Use your bus pass and travel in for free[/p][/quote]1. I cannot go in at 8.45 as I have to go to work. Most of the time i would go to town at lunch time. 2. Why should I pay any money to park. 3. Not all of old people. I will not get a bus pass for another 23 years The shop owners want more people to use there stores then we need more free spaces. Lots of people go to town, to go to one shop, in and out.[/p][/quote]I give up with you, if you can't see you have spent more money by driving out of town again, rather than paying 50p the 1st time, then its as bad flogging a dead horse isn't it really. I really strongly disagree with free spaces, they cause traffic to go around and around looking for that space. The council need revenue from Parking and have at long last got it about right. You can always park at ASDA or plenty of places just outside of town and god forbid WALK a little bit if you are that bothered about it.[/p][/quote]The reason you give for disliking free spaces is so ironic it's painful. Surely you can see that if there were MORE free spaces, there would be a bigger turn over of people resulting in LESS traffic jams! Why should the guy have to walk miles to get to his LOCAL town centre? If you hate free spaces so much I hope you pay a meter outside of your house every night to park there over night :) Johnny55
  • Score: -6

5:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ViewPoyntz says...

WykeReg wrote:
This sounds like the kind of good idea that folk come up with when they can't think of anything better. There a couple of problems that might get in the way of a good time.

The first one, the problem of seagulls, has been well covered here. But perhaps some tables reserved for birds and laid out with plastic cutlery so they don't hurt themselves might work.

The other problem is that this is England and summers are very optional. This year has been reasonably dry and mild, but such a summer only comes about once a decade. As for the other years you need to be dressed like a trawlerman to avoid drowning in the rain.

Regarding parking charges, I rarely go into town because I have an allergy - I react badly to the notion that in spite of being cruelly ripped off when I pay eye-watering levels of Council Tax I still have to pay to park. Only if I need some dire necessities do I venture into Weymouth. Fortunately there are no shops there selling dire necessities so I'm spared from dealing with the problem. If you want to know why online shopping is booming I'll give you the answer in one word - Weymouth.

But I'm sure Cllr. James will relish dining with her old friend Al Fresco.
I think Council Tax would be even higher if parking was free. The council has a duty to get a reasonable return on its assets.
[quote][p][bold]WykeReg[/bold] wrote: This sounds like the kind of good idea that folk come up with when they can't think of anything better. There a couple of problems that might get in the way of a good time. The first one, the problem of seagulls, has been well covered here. But perhaps some tables reserved for birds and laid out with plastic cutlery so they don't hurt themselves might work. The other problem is that this is England and summers are very optional. This year has been reasonably dry and mild, but such a summer only comes about once a decade. As for the other years you need to be dressed like a trawlerman to avoid drowning in the rain. Regarding parking charges, I rarely go into town because I have an allergy - I react badly to the notion that in spite of being cruelly ripped off when I pay eye-watering levels of Council Tax I still have to pay to park. Only if I need some dire necessities do I venture into Weymouth. Fortunately there are no shops there selling dire necessities so I'm spared from dealing with the problem. If you want to know why online shopping is booming I'll give you the answer in one word - Weymouth. But I'm sure Cllr. James will relish dining with her old friend Al Fresco.[/p][/quote]I think Council Tax would be even higher if parking was free. The council has a duty to get a reasonable return on its assets. ViewPoyntz
  • Score: 8

6:13pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
7drawers wrote:
There is a difference between seagulls in Trafalgar Square and Weymouth harbour... Working fishing boats!!!
Ok lets try it for a month... BUT why the obsession with copying a European cafe culture... How many evenings a year are really warm enough to sit outside and watch the world go by without a warm coat!
They are not seagulls in Trafalgar square they are Pigeons.
But essentially you are correct because both birds go to the area to get food. In Trafalgar square they reduced the number of birds by introducing a fine of £500 for feeding them. It worked. That of course is much harder to do with the fish attracting them. But they will grab things. I know someone the other day walking down the high street had a WHOLE sandwich stolen by a Seagull swooping down and taken it from hand. They will LOVE it with tables right by the harbourside absolutely love it.

Look I want to sit out there with a drink, no problem very nice, but FOOD no chance!!! Well it will be a laugh anyway, because it is not going to work.
I'd like someone to clue me in to the whereabouts of *Seagulls* -I've hoked through all my 60-odd birdbooks, including Peter Harrison's *Seabirds: An Identification Guide* (Croom Helm, 1985), which, of course, includes all the world's Gulls, but I don't seem to be able to unearth a *SEA*gull. On the other hand, that most miraculous of creatures, the Swift - most aerial of all birds, which, upon taking its first flight from the nest, never lands, day or night, for three and a half years, until it mates (on the wing !!) at maturity, and nests for the first time; it even sleeps, fitfully, as it flies - is included in all general birdbooks, without, somehow, it ever occurring to anyone to call it a *SKYswift*!! Odd, that !! Mind, they don't speak of *WATERducks* or *LANDrobins*, either !!
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]7drawers[/bold] wrote: There is a difference between seagulls in Trafalgar Square and Weymouth harbour... Working fishing boats!!! Ok lets try it for a month... BUT why the obsession with copying a European cafe culture... How many evenings a year are really warm enough to sit outside and watch the world go by without a warm coat![/p][/quote]They are not seagulls in Trafalgar square they are Pigeons. But essentially you are correct because both birds go to the area to get food. In Trafalgar square they reduced the number of birds by introducing a fine of £500 for feeding them. It worked. That of course is much harder to do with the fish attracting them. But they will grab things. I know someone the other day walking down the high street had a WHOLE sandwich stolen by a Seagull swooping down and taken it from hand. They will LOVE it with tables right by the harbourside absolutely love it. Look I want to sit out there with a drink, no problem very nice, but FOOD no chance!!! Well it will be a laugh anyway, because it is not going to work.[/p][/quote]I'd like someone to clue me in to the whereabouts of *Seagulls* -I've hoked through all my 60-odd birdbooks, including Peter Harrison's *Seabirds: An Identification Guide* (Croom Helm, 1985), which, of course, includes all the world's Gulls, but I don't seem to be able to unearth a *SEA*gull. On the other hand, that most miraculous of creatures, the Swift - most aerial of all birds, which, upon taking its first flight from the nest, never lands, day or night, for three and a half years, until it mates (on the wing !!) at maturity, and nests for the first time; it even sleeps, fitfully, as it flies - is included in all general birdbooks, without, somehow, it ever occurring to anyone to call it a *SKYswift*!! Odd, that !! Mind, they don't speak of *WATERducks* or *LANDrobins*, either !! Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 1

6:45pm Fri 1 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

Johnny55 wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
southill massive wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
southill massive wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.
So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day. IDEA ONE If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town! IDEA TWO If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol IDEA THREE Use your bus pass and travel in for free
1. I cannot go in at 8.45 as I have to go to work. Most of the time i would go to town at lunch time.

2. Why should I pay any money to park.

3. Not all of old people. I will not get a bus pass for another 23 years

The shop owners want more people to use there stores then we need more free spaces. Lots of people go to town, to go to one shop, in and out.
I give up with you, if you can't see you have spent more money by driving out of town again, rather than paying 50p the 1st time, then its as bad flogging a dead horse isn't it really. I really strongly disagree with free spaces, they cause traffic to go around and around looking for that space. The council need revenue from Parking and have at long last got it about right. You can always park at ASDA or plenty of places just outside of town and god forbid WALK a little bit if you are that bothered about it.
The reason you give for disliking free spaces is so ironic it's painful. Surely you can see that if there were MORE free spaces, there would be a bigger turn over of people resulting in LESS traffic jams! Why should the guy have to walk miles to get to his LOCAL town centre?

If you hate free spaces so much I hope you pay a meter outside of your house every night to park there over night :)
No, I have room for six cars on my drive :-) .........seven at a push.
[quote][p][bold]Johnny55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: If I have to go in to town, go to bank or get haircut. I will only use a free 1 hour space. If there are no free spaces, then I go home. The town needs more free 1 hour spaces. I don’t see why should pay to park. It’s my town I live here. We are not living in Spain. I am sure they will be loads of people sat outside in mid-February.[/p][/quote]So you waste about £1 worth of petrol to go back another day. IDEA ONE If you go at 8.45 in the morning you can park at 8.55 get your haircut and be back at your car at 9.15 Its free in every car park in town! IDEA TWO If you don't want to strain yourself too much at that early hour, you can pay 50p and save yourself another £1 on petrol IDEA THREE Use your bus pass and travel in for free[/p][/quote]1. I cannot go in at 8.45 as I have to go to work. Most of the time i would go to town at lunch time. 2. Why should I pay any money to park. 3. Not all of old people. I will not get a bus pass for another 23 years The shop owners want more people to use there stores then we need more free spaces. Lots of people go to town, to go to one shop, in and out.[/p][/quote]I give up with you, if you can't see you have spent more money by driving out of town again, rather than paying 50p the 1st time, then its as bad flogging a dead horse isn't it really. I really strongly disagree with free spaces, they cause traffic to go around and around looking for that space. The council need revenue from Parking and have at long last got it about right. You can always park at ASDA or plenty of places just outside of town and god forbid WALK a little bit if you are that bothered about it.[/p][/quote]The reason you give for disliking free spaces is so ironic it's painful. Surely you can see that if there were MORE free spaces, there would be a bigger turn over of people resulting in LESS traffic jams! Why should the guy have to walk miles to get to his LOCAL town centre? If you hate free spaces so much I hope you pay a meter outside of your house every night to park there over night :)[/p][/quote]No, I have room for six cars on my drive :-) .........seven at a push. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 8

7:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

norosetintedglasses says...

I guess Weymouth will be even a bigger traffic gridlock. Oh no! I forgot, the Quay will still be open for traffic. Who will have the right of way? Drivers or pedestrians. Waiters carrying hot food waiting to cross the road and then tripping over the uneven road and railway lines. Customers complaining their food is cold when it arrives . Will the restaurants/pubs be liable for any accidents. People mixing with traffic has never been a good idea.
Maybe Christine James should be more concerned with sorting out the Weymouth chaotic and dangerous road system, for drivers and pedestrians. Still waiting for the law that makes Councillors and Politicians have a qualification in common sense and have worked in a real job.
I guess Weymouth will be even a bigger traffic gridlock. Oh no! I forgot, the Quay will still be open for traffic. Who will have the right of way? Drivers or pedestrians. Waiters carrying hot food waiting to cross the road and then tripping over the uneven road and railway lines. Customers complaining their food is cold when it arrives . Will the restaurants/pubs be liable for any accidents. People mixing with traffic has never been a good idea. Maybe Christine James should be more concerned with sorting out the Weymouth chaotic and dangerous road system, for drivers and pedestrians. Still waiting for the law that makes Councillors and Politicians have a qualification in common sense and have worked in a real job. norosetintedglasses
  • Score: 1

8:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

yar2007 says...

I don't see what you all are whinging about. Have you seen the habour in evening times? It is full of people and that means business for the town.
I don't see what you all are whinging about. Have you seen the habour in evening times? It is full of people and that means business for the town. yar2007
  • Score: 18

8:38pm Fri 1 Aug 14

MASK & SNORKEL says...

Great idea for outside dining. Surely the roadway can be barrier/coned off so the traffic drives closer to the harbour and the tables are put where the normal road is. I can't see how staff can be expected to carry food across a public road.
I love parking in free spaces but would like to see Weymouth move with the times and at least try the idea of eating outside :)
Great idea for outside dining. Surely the roadway can be barrier/coned off so the traffic drives closer to the harbour and the tables are put where the normal road is. I can't see how staff can be expected to carry food across a public road. I love parking in free spaces but would like to see Weymouth move with the times and at least try the idea of eating outside :) MASK & SNORKEL
  • Score: 6

9:26pm Fri 1 Aug 14

portland.bill says...

Dorchester looking better every day , We have been going there from Portland for the past 10yrs rather than go to RIPOFF Weymouth
Dorchester looking better every day , We have been going there from Portland for the past 10yrs rather than go to RIPOFF Weymouth portland.bill
  • Score: -6

10:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

phinny says...

Just another reason for me not to go to weymouth to shop.
Just another reason for me not to go to weymouth to shop. phinny
  • Score: -8

7:40am Sat 2 Aug 14

Dkny1982 says...

Sounds lovely sitting down to your dinner with car and lorry fumes surrounding you whilst looking for a space and then motorbikes on top on a Thursday night! I for one would rather sit inside
Sounds lovely sitting down to your dinner with car and lorry fumes surrounding you whilst looking for a space and then motorbikes on top on a Thursday night! I for one would rather sit inside Dkny1982
  • Score: -4

8:24am Sat 2 Aug 14

Rocksalt says...

7drawers wrote:
There is a difference between seagulls in Trafalgar Square and Weymouth harbour... Working fishing boats!!!
Ok lets try it for a month... BUT why the obsession with copying a European cafe culture... How many evenings a year are really warm enough to sit outside and watch the world go by without a warm coat!
Lots. I spent Two years working in Manchester and people were sat out for at least 2/3rds of the year
[quote][p][bold]7drawers[/bold] wrote: There is a difference between seagulls in Trafalgar Square and Weymouth harbour... Working fishing boats!!! Ok lets try it for a month... BUT why the obsession with copying a European cafe culture... How many evenings a year are really warm enough to sit outside and watch the world go by without a warm coat![/p][/quote]Lots. I spent Two years working in Manchester and people were sat out for at least 2/3rds of the year Rocksalt
  • Score: 5

8:41am Sat 2 Aug 14

mickefinn says...

This could be done without losing any parking spaces, just move the eating area to the raised part nearer the Pavilion. No problems with traffic and this area is crying out to be used for something instead of dumping ground for fishermen. Done properly this could be good for Weymouth.
This could be done without losing any parking spaces, just move the eating area to the raised part nearer the Pavilion. No problems with traffic and this area is crying out to be used for something instead of dumping ground for fishermen. Done properly this could be good for Weymouth. mickefinn
  • Score: 0

9:19am Sat 2 Aug 14

Harry1973 says...

What a miserable and negative bunch on here , if the so called shoppers who come to weymouth and try and park for free won't come back shopping. Then is it a loss ? By the sounds of it they are only spending their money at the 99p shop anyway . The town needs this it's called enhancing our beautiful town. People have clearly not been or seen our harbour lately packed with people eating and drinking and enjoying the ambiance.
What a miserable and negative bunch on here , if the so called shoppers who come to weymouth and try and park for free won't come back shopping. Then is it a loss ? By the sounds of it they are only spending their money at the 99p shop anyway . The town needs this it's called enhancing our beautiful town. People have clearly not been or seen our harbour lately packed with people eating and drinking and enjoying the ambiance. Harry1973
  • Score: 4

4:43pm Sat 2 Aug 14

WykeReg says...

ViewPoyntz wrote:
WykeReg wrote:
This sounds like the kind of good idea that folk come up with when they can't think of anything better. There a couple of problems that might get in the way of a good time.

The first one, the problem of seagulls, has been well covered here. But perhaps some tables reserved for birds and laid out with plastic cutlery so they don't hurt themselves might work.

The other problem is that this is England and summers are very optional. This year has been reasonably dry and mild, but such a summer only comes about once a decade. As for the other years you need to be dressed like a trawlerman to avoid drowning in the rain.

Regarding parking charges, I rarely go into town because I have an allergy - I react badly to the notion that in spite of being cruelly ripped off when I pay eye-watering levels of Council Tax I still have to pay to park. Only if I need some dire necessities do I venture into Weymouth. Fortunately there are no shops there selling dire necessities so I'm spared from dealing with the problem. If you want to know why online shopping is booming I'll give you the answer in one word - Weymouth.

But I'm sure Cllr. James will relish dining with her old friend Al Fresco.
I think Council Tax would be even higher if parking was free. The council has a duty to get a reasonable return on its assets.
You don't seem to get the point. The Council is already ripping us off with excessive tax and there are few who think that the money they steal is being spent wisely. There is no reason any sane person would welcome an opportunity to further fill the Council coffers by paying parking charges.

Of course, if you believe that every penny is spent wisely and the town is visibly better for it then you might be ready to dig deeper. I think you'd be on your own, though.
[quote][p][bold]ViewPoyntz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WykeReg[/bold] wrote: This sounds like the kind of good idea that folk come up with when they can't think of anything better. There a couple of problems that might get in the way of a good time. The first one, the problem of seagulls, has been well covered here. But perhaps some tables reserved for birds and laid out with plastic cutlery so they don't hurt themselves might work. The other problem is that this is England and summers are very optional. This year has been reasonably dry and mild, but such a summer only comes about once a decade. As for the other years you need to be dressed like a trawlerman to avoid drowning in the rain. Regarding parking charges, I rarely go into town because I have an allergy - I react badly to the notion that in spite of being cruelly ripped off when I pay eye-watering levels of Council Tax I still have to pay to park. Only if I need some dire necessities do I venture into Weymouth. Fortunately there are no shops there selling dire necessities so I'm spared from dealing with the problem. If you want to know why online shopping is booming I'll give you the answer in one word - Weymouth. But I'm sure Cllr. James will relish dining with her old friend Al Fresco.[/p][/quote]I think Council Tax would be even higher if parking was free. The council has a duty to get a reasonable return on its assets.[/p][/quote]You don't seem to get the point. The Council is already ripping us off with excessive tax and there are few who think that the money they steal is being spent wisely. There is no reason any sane person would welcome an opportunity to further fill the Council coffers by paying parking charges. Of course, if you believe that every penny is spent wisely and the town is visibly better for it then you might be ready to dig deeper. I think you'd be on your own, though. WykeReg
  • Score: -4

10:03pm Sat 2 Aug 14

rbdeejay says...

I think it's a great idea!
I think it's a great idea! rbdeejay
  • Score: 6

10:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

yar2007 says...

Have any of you with negative comments actually been to the harbour throughout the day and evenings? You should see for yourself the amount of people there. It's not all pubs but restaurants and people with their children. On the the other side there's always families crabbing with chip shop meals. This provides jobs and money for the town and god knows we need it! There are plenty of other places to park. Dont want spend a measly 50p? Walk! It's good for you!
Have any of you with negative comments actually been to the harbour throughout the day and evenings? You should see for yourself the amount of people there. It's not all pubs but restaurants and people with their children. On the the other side there's always families crabbing with chip shop meals. This provides jobs and money for the town and god knows we need it! There are plenty of other places to park. Dont want spend a measly 50p? Walk! It's good for you! yar2007
  • Score: 10

11:07am Sun 3 Aug 14

ksmain says...

This comes under the heading of 'sounds like a good idea theoretically but in practice less so'.

There are serious issues that need to be dealt with, like:

1.The road along the harbour would have to be shut to traffic while the premises using the dining area are open. I can't think of anyone wanting to eat outside at the harbour while being drenched in carbon monoxide from passing cars running just feet from them, or the harbour establishments running the risk of their staff being run over while delivering the food.
2. The harbour establishments would have to ensure all deliveries are conducted early morning before the road shuts when they open.
3. The weather. I think the council have been deceived by the good weather we have had recently - and might not want to be reminded that the previous 7 or so summers have been relatively poor weatherwise. I mean, it isn't like we are guaranteed weather like the Med coasts in the summer, and we aren't very good at handling it when it does turn sour very suddenly (as it did yesterday morning).
4. The seagulls - will the council mount a serious cull as they WILL BE a pest and will destroy any nice meal there.

The alfresco look has worked on the seafront due to the very sensible widening of the pavements, but unfortunately the harbour area is another matter altogether.
This comes under the heading of 'sounds like a good idea theoretically but in practice less so'. There are serious issues that need to be dealt with, like: 1.The road along the harbour would have to be shut to traffic while the premises using the dining area are open. I can't think of anyone wanting to eat outside at the harbour while being drenched in carbon monoxide from passing cars running just feet from them, or the harbour establishments running the risk of their staff being run over while delivering the food. 2. The harbour establishments would have to ensure all deliveries are conducted early morning before the road shuts when they open. 3. The weather. I think the council have been deceived by the good weather we have had recently - and might not want to be reminded that the previous 7 or so summers have been relatively poor weatherwise. I mean, it isn't like we are guaranteed weather like the Med coasts in the summer, and we aren't very good at handling it when it does turn sour very suddenly (as it did yesterday morning). 4. The seagulls - will the council mount a serious cull as they WILL BE a pest and will destroy any nice meal there. The alfresco look has worked on the seafront due to the very sensible widening of the pavements, but unfortunately the harbour area is another matter altogether. ksmain
  • Score: -3

11:15am Sun 3 Aug 14

ksmain says...

yar2007 wrote:
Have any of you with negative comments actually been to the harbour throughout the day and evenings? You should see for yourself the amount of people there. It's not all pubs but restaurants and people with their children. On the the other side there's always families crabbing with chip shop meals. This provides jobs and money for the town and god knows we need it! There are plenty of other places to park. Dont want spend a measly 50p? Walk! It's good for you!
Much as I like the idea, it isn't just an issue of plonking a few tables there - there are serious issues to be resolved to turn the area into a dining area - traffic, seagulls,deliveries, etc. And who cleans up after these tourists when they can't be bothered to use a bin - as is frequently the case? It is much easier with a takeaway and a pint. Plus the harbour is a working harbour as well - not all those parking there are tourists.
[quote][p][bold]yar2007[/bold] wrote: Have any of you with negative comments actually been to the harbour throughout the day and evenings? You should see for yourself the amount of people there. It's not all pubs but restaurants and people with their children. On the the other side there's always families crabbing with chip shop meals. This provides jobs and money for the town and god knows we need it! There are plenty of other places to park. Dont want spend a measly 50p? Walk! It's good for you![/p][/quote]Much as I like the idea, it isn't just an issue of plonking a few tables there - there are serious issues to be resolved to turn the area into a dining area - traffic, seagulls,deliveries, etc. And who cleans up after these tourists when they can't be bothered to use a bin - as is frequently the case? It is much easier with a takeaway and a pint. Plus the harbour is a working harbour as well - not all those parking there are tourists. ksmain
  • Score: -4

11:14pm Sun 3 Aug 14

voiceof says...

ksmain wrote:
This comes under the heading of 'sounds like a good idea theoretically but in practice less so'.

There are serious issues that need to be dealt with, like:

1.The road along the harbour would have to be shut to traffic while the premises using the dining area are open. I can't think of anyone wanting to eat outside at the harbour while being drenched in carbon monoxide from passing cars running just feet from them, or the harbour establishments running the risk of their staff being run over while delivering the food.
2. The harbour establishments would have to ensure all deliveries are conducted early morning before the road shuts when they open.
3. The weather. I think the council have been deceived by the good weather we have had recently - and might not want to be reminded that the previous 7 or so summers have been relatively poor weatherwise. I mean, it isn't like we are guaranteed weather like the Med coasts in the summer, and we aren't very good at handling it when it does turn sour very suddenly (as it did yesterday morning).
4. The seagulls - will the council mount a serious cull as they WILL BE a pest and will destroy any nice meal there.

The alfresco look has worked on the seafront due to the very sensible widening of the pavements, but unfortunately the harbour area is another matter altogether.
Cars do not emit significant amounts of carbon monoxide any more, this is what a catalytic converter is for.
On a less pedantic note, people seem to believe the harbourside is pedestrianised anyway. I'm constantly having to navigate around people walking in the middle of the road or crossing without looking! Surprised there hasn't been a few nasty accidents especially on the Weymouth side!
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: This comes under the heading of 'sounds like a good idea theoretically but in practice less so'. There are serious issues that need to be dealt with, like: 1.The road along the harbour would have to be shut to traffic while the premises using the dining area are open. I can't think of anyone wanting to eat outside at the harbour while being drenched in carbon monoxide from passing cars running just feet from them, or the harbour establishments running the risk of their staff being run over while delivering the food. 2. The harbour establishments would have to ensure all deliveries are conducted early morning before the road shuts when they open. 3. The weather. I think the council have been deceived by the good weather we have had recently - and might not want to be reminded that the previous 7 or so summers have been relatively poor weatherwise. I mean, it isn't like we are guaranteed weather like the Med coasts in the summer, and we aren't very good at handling it when it does turn sour very suddenly (as it did yesterday morning). 4. The seagulls - will the council mount a serious cull as they WILL BE a pest and will destroy any nice meal there. The alfresco look has worked on the seafront due to the very sensible widening of the pavements, but unfortunately the harbour area is another matter altogether.[/p][/quote]Cars do not emit significant amounts of carbon monoxide any more, this is what a catalytic converter is for. On a less pedantic note, people seem to believe the harbourside is pedestrianised anyway. I'm constantly having to navigate around people walking in the middle of the road or crossing without looking! Surprised there hasn't been a few nasty accidents especially on the Weymouth side! voiceof
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1:37pm Mon 4 Aug 14

tarka says...

Ok remove the free one hour short stay free car parking on Custom House Quay and generate income by renting them out to businesses for outside seating thus generating income for the council. It may only be viable for 6 to 8 weeks a year but so what.

Now give something back, change the Maiden Street car park to a free 1 hour short stay parking as per the quay thus satisfying the short stay parking need.

Now everybody is happy or do the council want their cake and eat it ?

If the council’s motive is to just enhance the Custom House Quay experience then maintaining an equal amount of free parking bays in Market Street should not be a problem.
Ok remove the free one hour short stay free car parking on Custom House Quay and generate income by renting them out to businesses for outside seating thus generating income for the council. It may only be viable for 6 to 8 weeks a year but so what. Now give something back, change the Maiden Street car park to a free 1 hour short stay parking as per the quay thus satisfying the short stay parking need. Now everybody is happy or do the council want their cake and eat it ? If the council’s motive is to just enhance the Custom House Quay experience then maintaining an equal amount of free parking bays in Market Street should not be a problem. tarka
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10:19pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

People are asking the wrong questions.
They are disgruntled because they have to pay to park and therefore they obviously feel they are paying too much elsewhere.
Doesn't the story in the echo this week say we are paying the highest council tax in the country?
Putting two and two together kind of points in the direction that we should be doing something about DCC and the W&PBC not whinging about a poxy strip of twenty free parking spaces.
People are asking the wrong questions. They are disgruntled because they have to pay to park and therefore they obviously feel they are paying too much elsewhere. Doesn't the story in the echo this week say we are paying the highest council tax in the country? Putting two and two together kind of points in the direction that we should be doing something about DCC and the W&PBC not whinging about a poxy strip of twenty free parking spaces. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -3

10:31pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Anyone remember the old 'Sea Cow' restaurant along the quayside ?? I happen to KNOW that a number of local people who once worked in the galley there each contributed some of their bodily products and stirred them into some food ordered by off-duty Police Officers. As the officers left after their meal, said galley staff bade them goodbye at the door, and asked, with big grins, if they'd enjoyed their dinner. In case anyone is wondering - no, I never worked there myself, so I had nothing to do with this - but it demonstrates why I would NEVER eat out, even if I were starving, for fear of waiters/galley staff taking a dislike. I also worry about packed supermarket food - the disgruntled, underpaid wage-slaves must be legion, and we have ALL seen undercover TV footage of how production lines are manned, and what additions staff put in the food, often just to show off to their downtrodden fellow workers - so enjoy your quayside meals, won't you ??
Anyone remember the old 'Sea Cow' restaurant along the quayside ?? I happen to KNOW that a number of local people who once worked in the galley there each contributed some of their bodily products and stirred them into some food ordered by off-duty Police Officers. As the officers left after their meal, said galley staff bade them goodbye at the door, and asked, with big grins, if they'd enjoyed their dinner. In case anyone is wondering - no, I never worked there myself, so I had nothing to do with this - but it demonstrates why I would NEVER eat out, even if I were starving, for fear of waiters/galley staff taking a dislike. I also worry about packed supermarket food - the disgruntled, underpaid wage-slaves must be legion, and we have ALL seen undercover TV footage of how production lines are manned, and what additions staff put in the food, often just to show off to their downtrodden fellow workers - so enjoy your quayside meals, won't you ?? Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: -3

11:51pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Harry1973 says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Anyone remember the old 'Sea Cow' restaurant along the quayside ?? I happen to KNOW that a number of local people who once worked in the galley there each contributed some of their bodily products and stirred them into some food ordered by off-duty Police Officers. As the officers left after their meal, said galley staff bade them goodbye at the door, and asked, with big grins, if they'd enjoyed their dinner. In case anyone is wondering - no, I never worked there myself, so I had nothing to do with this - but it demonstrates why I would NEVER eat out, even if I were starving, for fear of waiters/galley staff taking a dislike. I also worry about packed supermarket food - the disgruntled, underpaid wage-slaves must be legion, and we have ALL seen undercover TV footage of how production lines are manned, and what additions staff put in the food, often just to show off to their downtrodden fellow workers - so enjoy your quayside meals, won't you ??
And your point is ????
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Anyone remember the old 'Sea Cow' restaurant along the quayside ?? I happen to KNOW that a number of local people who once worked in the galley there each contributed some of their bodily products and stirred them into some food ordered by off-duty Police Officers. As the officers left after their meal, said galley staff bade them goodbye at the door, and asked, with big grins, if they'd enjoyed their dinner. In case anyone is wondering - no, I never worked there myself, so I had nothing to do with this - but it demonstrates why I would NEVER eat out, even if I were starving, for fear of waiters/galley staff taking a dislike. I also worry about packed supermarket food - the disgruntled, underpaid wage-slaves must be legion, and we have ALL seen undercover TV footage of how production lines are manned, and what additions staff put in the food, often just to show off to their downtrodden fellow workers - so enjoy your quayside meals, won't you ??[/p][/quote]And your point is ???? Harry1973
  • Score: 2

12:53am Tue 5 Aug 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

My point is, if you've got an iota of sense, avoid eating out like the PLAGUE - you don't know how it's been handled or what extras may have been added. And it's a well known fact that MANY food-handlers - both within and without the galley - see no reason to wash their hands after having a good old pick, intimate scratch, visit to the john or running their fingers through their hair. THAT's established FACT !! I once ate out at a small restaurant in Bournemouth, my partner and I choosing a salad - and it was gritty as all get-out because they couldn't be bothered to wash the lettuce first !! I'm afraid I'm first cousin to the Raccoon - if I'm planning to eat it, it gets thoroughly washed first (fruit and veg only, mind !!) - just think of all those chimp hands that have mauled your toMAYtoes on the supermarket shelves before YOU bought them. Restaurants ? Who needs 'em ??!!
My point is, if you've got an iota of sense, avoid eating out like the PLAGUE - you don't know how it's been handled or what extras may have been added. And it's a well known fact that MANY food-handlers - both within and without the galley - see no reason to wash their hands after having a good old pick, intimate scratch, visit to the john or running their fingers through their hair. THAT's established FACT !! I once ate out at a small restaurant in Bournemouth, my partner and I choosing a salad - and it was gritty as all get-out because they couldn't be bothered to wash the lettuce first !! I'm afraid I'm first cousin to the Raccoon - if I'm planning to eat it, it gets thoroughly washed first (fruit and veg only, mind !!) - just think of all those chimp hands that have mauled your toMAYtoes on the supermarket shelves before YOU bought them. Restaurants ? Who needs 'em ??!! Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: -4

1:00am Tue 5 Aug 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Aha - maybe I missed the whole point here - you aren't talking about eateries for LOCALS, are you? You're thinking of places making a culinary living from fleecing the brummies - right? So what's in the food shouldn't bother us, is that it ?? :D :D
Aha - maybe I missed the whole point here - you aren't talking about eateries for LOCALS, are you? You're thinking of places making a culinary living from fleecing the brummies - right? So what's in the food shouldn't bother us, is that it ?? :D :D Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 0

7:51am Tue 5 Aug 14

Jimmytheone says...

Has the elf & safety man been consulted about this?
Waiters at risk from traffic, diners and tables falling over harbour wall, seagull attacks, traffic noise, good heavens this is 2014 we need risk assesments and method statements. Wiill the waiters and diners have to wear hi-vis jackets.,hard hats,ear defenders & eye protection.
Those few of us that work know about the these risks and have to wear the mandatory PPE even in the summer.
Haircuts why not have an open air barbers on the quay?
The pidgeons can pick up the cut hair for nesting and no brylcream a dollop of best seagull c--p if you need a shower after the cut a tlting chair and woosh you are in the harbour.
You have to keep smiling or reading some of the comments above would give you depression. Worth a chuckle.
Has the elf & safety man been consulted about this? Waiters at risk from traffic, diners and tables falling over harbour wall, seagull attacks, traffic noise, good heavens this is 2014 we need risk assesments and method statements. Wiill the waiters and diners have to wear hi-vis jackets.,hard hats,ear defenders & eye protection. Those few of us that work know about the these risks and have to wear the mandatory PPE even in the summer. Haircuts why not have an open air barbers on the quay? The pidgeons can pick up the cut hair for nesting and no brylcream a dollop of best seagull c--p if you need a shower after the cut a tlting chair and woosh you are in the harbour. You have to keep smiling or reading some of the comments above would give you depression. Worth a chuckle. Jimmytheone
  • Score: -4

2:32pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Kaptain_Von says...

As others have pointed out, good idea in theory but not in practice. Putting aside the loss of parking spaces there remain the issues of diners sitting next to a road with cars driving by. I know that I for one would not particularly enjoy a meal with a side order of exhaust gases.

There is then the safety of waiting staff. Crossing a road with orders is probably not the safest of activities and then you have the numpties who, having had a couple of shandies would find it amusing to knock dishes out of waiters hands as the pass by (oh yes, they exist, I have seen it happen in another town).

As for the gulls, potentially a big problem. I am currently working in Bristol and my route home takes me round the harbourside where there are a number of restaurants with outside seating. A couple have even had to put up warnings about the gulls and I have seen someones expensive burger or pizza slice take flight and vanish across the water in a gulls beak on more than one occasion over the last few months.

Then there are similar numpties to the ones mentioned above who think that leaning over the dividing barriers from the pedestrian walkway and stealing food is hysterically funny, especially when accompanied with a cheery "Give us a chip mate/luv!"

Equally with Weymouth being a working harbour, I wonder what diners would make of the experience of having ice boxes full of catch of the day slung over their head or the contents running around their feet in the case of crabs and lobsters. Still, I suppose it *could* be tied in to the dining experience with customers hoicking a fresh halibut of the box with their fork as it passes and yelling "Garcon! This with chips please!"
As others have pointed out, good idea in theory but not in practice. Putting aside the loss of parking spaces there remain the issues of diners sitting next to a road with cars driving by. I know that I for one would not particularly enjoy a meal with a side order of exhaust gases. There is then the safety of waiting staff. Crossing a road with orders is probably not the safest of activities and then you have the numpties who, having had a couple of shandies would find it amusing to knock dishes out of waiters hands as the pass by (oh yes, they exist, I have seen it happen in another town). As for the gulls, potentially a big problem. I am currently working in Bristol and my route home takes me round the harbourside where there are a number of restaurants with outside seating. A couple have even had to put up warnings about the gulls and I have seen someones expensive burger or pizza slice take flight and vanish across the water in a gulls beak on more than one occasion over the last few months. Then there are similar numpties to the ones mentioned above who think that leaning over the dividing barriers from the pedestrian walkway and stealing food is hysterically funny, especially when accompanied with a cheery "Give us a chip mate/luv!" Equally with Weymouth being a working harbour, I wonder what diners would make of the experience of having ice boxes full of catch of the day slung over their head or the contents running around their feet in the case of crabs and lobsters. Still, I suppose it *could* be tied in to the dining experience with customers hoicking a fresh halibut of the box with their fork as it passes and yelling "Garcon! This with chips please!" Kaptain_Von
  • Score: 4

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