Turntable for steam tours

Turntable for steam tours

Turntable for steam tours

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THE steam tours into Weymouth have been going for several years now, but the snag is having to send the steam all the way to Yeovil for turning, water and coal.

I remember your reporter Martin Lea alerting readers about West Country planning a turntable based here in Weymouth. Why not?

Just in front of Weymouth station a car park was earmarked for this, with plenty of viewing space, or just up the line Wool station has plenty of space.

I hope in future the organisers don’t get frustrated if a steam tour does run arrive late then fans will have to put up with diesel loco leading out of Weymouth instead of steam which families and children love watching and helps with the local economy. So come on, make this work.

GARY PENFOLD, North Square, Dorchester

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4:19pm Mon 1 Sep 14

JackJohnson says...

Is there not a wye, or balloon loop, nearer that could be used?

I appreciate that there's not a lot of anything left after B did his dirty work. I'm also pretty sure all alternatives will already have been considered.
Is there not a wye, or balloon loop, nearer that could be used? I appreciate that there's not a lot of anything left after B did his dirty work. I'm also pretty sure all alternatives will already have been considered. JackJohnson
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8:54pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Hrw-Amen says...

I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root?

Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone.

Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time.
I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root? Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone. Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time. Hrw-Amen
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9:51am Tue 2 Sep 14

arlbergbahn says...

i did see a story in another paper that the idea of a turntable had indeed been revived, and it was being looked into. As was reviving the Harbour tramway into the bargain. I don't know if this may have been wishful thinking, but the idea does still seem to be alive.
i did see a story in another paper that the idea of a turntable had indeed been revived, and it was being looked into. As was reviving the Harbour tramway into the bargain. I don't know if this may have been wishful thinking, but the idea does still seem to be alive. arlbergbahn
  • Score: -1

3:58pm Tue 2 Sep 14

JamesYoung says...

Hrw-Amen wrote:
I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root?

Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone.

Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time.
There would.
Let's say the cost of building such a turntable was £2m.
How would you propose to recoup that cost?
And the lost parking revenue from the quay?
[quote][p][bold]Hrw-Amen[/bold] wrote: I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root? Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone. Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time.[/p][/quote]There would. Let's say the cost of building such a turntable was £2m. How would you propose to recoup that cost? And the lost parking revenue from the quay? JamesYoung
  • Score: -3

4:35pm Tue 2 Sep 14

arlbergbahn says...

JamesYoung wrote:
Hrw-Amen wrote:
I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root?

Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone.

Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time.
There would.
Let's say the cost of building such a turntable was £2m.
How would you propose to recoup that cost?
And the lost parking revenue from the quay?
Oh god, not parking revenue again! Are you from the Council? Can we please begin to think with a bit more imagination than wringing our hands and lamenting all the parking revenue we might lose if anyone tries anything with a bit of imagination, please.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hrw-Amen[/bold] wrote: I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root? Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone. Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time.[/p][/quote]There would. Let's say the cost of building such a turntable was £2m. How would you propose to recoup that cost? And the lost parking revenue from the quay?[/p][/quote]Oh god, not parking revenue again! Are you from the Council? Can we please begin to think with a bit more imagination than wringing our hands and lamenting all the parking revenue we might lose if anyone tries anything with a bit of imagination, please. arlbergbahn
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Tue 2 Sep 14

arlbergbahn says...

* Note to editor: that's not a steam train in the heading picture.
Thank you.
* Note to editor: that's not a steam train in the heading picture. Thank you. arlbergbahn
  • Score: 2

4:50pm Tue 2 Sep 14

JackJohnson says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
* Note to editor: that's not a steam train in the heading picture.
Thank you.
Sorry - the old steamer didn't get to Yeovil (and back) in time... Ed. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: * Note to editor: that's not a steam train in the heading picture. Thank you.[/p][/quote]Sorry - the old steamer didn't get to Yeovil (and back) in time... Ed. ;-) JackJohnson
  • Score: 2

5:10pm Tue 2 Sep 14

melcombe boy says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
Hrw-Amen wrote:
I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root?

Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone.

Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time.
There would.
Let's say the cost of building such a turntable was £2m.
How would you propose to recoup that cost?
And the lost parking revenue from the quay?
Oh god, not parking revenue again! Are you from the Council? Can we please begin to think with a bit more imagination than wringing our hands and lamenting all the parking revenue we might lose if anyone tries anything with a bit of imagination, please.
More steam trains to Weymouth station is a fantastic idea if the £2m investment needed for a turntable doesn't come from public funds.
Along the harbour to the pavilion, no,no,no!
That would be truly awful, incredibly disruptive, smelly and rule out any visionary development of the pavilion peninsula. Hopefully it is a non starter.
There is nothing imaginative or original about running a steam train along the harbour.
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hrw-Amen[/bold] wrote: I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root? Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone. Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time.[/p][/quote]There would. Let's say the cost of building such a turntable was £2m. How would you propose to recoup that cost? And the lost parking revenue from the quay?[/p][/quote]Oh god, not parking revenue again! Are you from the Council? Can we please begin to think with a bit more imagination than wringing our hands and lamenting all the parking revenue we might lose if anyone tries anything with a bit of imagination, please.[/p][/quote]More steam trains to Weymouth station is a fantastic idea if the £2m investment needed for a turntable doesn't come from public funds. Along the harbour to the pavilion, no,no,no! That would be truly awful, incredibly disruptive, smelly and rule out any visionary development of the pavilion peninsula. Hopefully it is a non starter. There is nothing imaginative or original about running a steam train along the harbour. melcombe boy
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9:16am Thu 4 Sep 14

Preston North End says...

A steam train running along the harbour is nice as an idea. However, I'm just old enough to remember the trains that did go along there. They were monumentally disruptive and a total pain for everyone, including the train operator, which is probably one of the reasons they stopped.
A steam train running along the harbour is nice as an idea. However, I'm just old enough to remember the trains that did go along there. They were monumentally disruptive and a total pain for everyone, including the train operator, which is probably one of the reasons they stopped. Preston North End
  • Score: 1

10:03am Thu 4 Sep 14

dorset & proud says...

A nice idea but in reality it'll never happen unless a private investor can be found. The council is broke, Network Rail wont touch it and the rail tour operators would never be able to recoup the costs.

I imagine that in the 21st century the health and safety boffins would have all kinds of issues with an over-sized kettle firing out high pressure steam through every orifice, trundling along the quay so close to the holidaymakers.
A nice idea but in reality it'll never happen unless a private investor can be found. The council is broke, Network Rail wont touch it and the rail tour operators would never be able to recoup the costs. I imagine that in the 21st century the health and safety boffins would have all kinds of issues with an over-sized kettle firing out high pressure steam through every orifice, trundling along the quay so close to the holidaymakers. dorset & proud
  • Score: 1

10:44pm Thu 4 Sep 14

JamesYoung says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
Hrw-Amen wrote:
I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root?

Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone.

Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time.
There would.
Let's say the cost of building such a turntable was £2m.
How would you propose to recoup that cost?
And the lost parking revenue from the quay?
Oh god, not parking revenue again! Are you from the Council? Can we please begin to think with a bit more imagination than wringing our hands and lamenting all the parking revenue we might lose if anyone tries anything with a bit of imagination, please.
Nope, not from the council, however, coming up with half baked ideas that make no financial sense and actually reduce current revenues is not really "a bit of imagination" is it?
My suggestion is that anybody making any similar suggestions should first ask themselves the question "would i invest the inheritance i got from my parents in this?".
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hrw-Amen[/bold] wrote: I was thinking, now that Condor are leaving there would be plenty of room for a balloon loop or turntable down behind the Pavillon and the tracks are already there waiting to get to the area. I am sure a steam engine running along Weymouth's Commercial road once more every so often would be a much bigger croud pleaser than even the diesels that used to do it. After all when was the last time a steam train used the root? Putting it down there they could tie in boat trains for when the Waverly is running. A real sence of nostalgia could be had. What is more not only would it please all the people who want to bring more and better attractions to Weymouth but at the same time as pleasing the forward thinkers it would also please those who want the town to be stuck in the Georgian/Edwardian periods. What a rae opportunity to please everyone. Not only that but it would allow the tracks on the harbour to be checked and if needed brought up to mopdern specificatons. Doing so would raise awareness of their presence so that people who are likely to come into contact with them either driving, walking or cycling . That way they would know about them and it would be in their minds to take proper care when crossing them reducing the amount of casulties and giving the track a reason for being all at the same time.[/p][/quote]There would. Let's say the cost of building such a turntable was £2m. How would you propose to recoup that cost? And the lost parking revenue from the quay?[/p][/quote]Oh god, not parking revenue again! Are you from the Council? Can we please begin to think with a bit more imagination than wringing our hands and lamenting all the parking revenue we might lose if anyone tries anything with a bit of imagination, please.[/p][/quote]Nope, not from the council, however, coming up with half baked ideas that make no financial sense and actually reduce current revenues is not really "a bit of imagination" is it? My suggestion is that anybody making any similar suggestions should first ask themselves the question "would i invest the inheritance i got from my parents in this?". JamesYoung
  • Score: 1

5:18pm Mon 8 Sep 14

Milton Boy says...

If you note the steam rail tours this year, you will see that the Bristol one drops its engine at Yeovil for turning en route to Weymouth and proceeds diesel hauled. The steam engine then arrives later. The London one arrives with diesel at the other end. When leaving the diesel pulls the train to Southampton, where the steam engine takes over. I would suggest that these measures are to reduce the cost of the steam engine running to Yeovil for turning and back. The current lack of a turntable in Weymouth will result in less and less steam tours. There is a turntable identified for Weymouth currently in Lancashire
If you note the steam rail tours this year, you will see that the Bristol one drops its engine at Yeovil for turning en route to Weymouth and proceeds diesel hauled. The steam engine then arrives later. The London one arrives with diesel at the other end. When leaving the diesel pulls the train to Southampton, where the steam engine takes over. I would suggest that these measures are to reduce the cost of the steam engine running to Yeovil for turning and back. The current lack of a turntable in Weymouth will result in less and less steam tours. There is a turntable identified for Weymouth currently in Lancashire Milton Boy
  • Score: 0

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