No safety barrier on the road makes it dangerous

No safety barrier on the road makes it dangerous

No safety barrier on the road makes it dangerous

First published in Your Letters

About two months ago, if memory serves me correctly, you published a letter in which the correspondent, quite rightly, raised considerable disquiet about what he felt was a flagrant breach of health and safety rules apropos a small section of the new cycle path.

The enclosed photograph shows exactly what he had in mind.

This is what motorists see as they drive along Weymouth Way, heading in the direction of Manor roundabout.

The danger is clear: an out of control mobile scooter, skate-boarder, cyclist or young-ster on a scooter would be hurled directly into the path of oncoming traffic.

There is no safety barrier, fencing or screening to prevent such a scenario developing.

I am genuinely astonished that no remedial work has been undertaken to remove the disturbing possibility of another fatality or serious accident on an already blighted section of road.

The original correspondent suggested fencing at the foot of this steep incline. I agree, but would also like to see a crash barrier along this section of road.

I believe that this section of cycle path should be closed until such work is agreed and completed.

Peter Jarvis

Woodward Place

Weymouth

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1:58pm Thu 4 Sep 14

caapprentice says...

Why doesn't this correspondent talk to DCC directly? The Echo isn't going to put a crash barrier up.
Why doesn't this correspondent talk to DCC directly? The Echo isn't going to put a crash barrier up. caapprentice
  • Score: 11

3:46pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Goldman says...

Couldn't agree more. Somebody just wants their name in the paper. Next time try the court section.
Couldn't agree more. Somebody just wants their name in the paper. Next time try the court section. Goldman
  • Score: 0

7:05pm Thu 4 Sep 14

wurzelbasher says...

Our road planners don't seem to have a clue: maybe it's time to call in the consultants......!!
Our road planners don't seem to have a clue: maybe it's time to call in the consultants......!! wurzelbasher
  • Score: 2

7:38am Fri 5 Sep 14

anotherfatslob says...

A stupid cycle lane who woulda thought it.
A stupid cycle lane who woulda thought it. anotherfatslob
  • Score: -4

12:14pm Fri 5 Sep 14

martaaay2 says...

the cycle lane is straighter than the picture makes it look...
the cycle lane is straighter than the picture makes it look... martaaay2
  • Score: 5

5:17pm Fri 5 Sep 14

timgriffiths1962@gmail.com says...

The road has a top speed of fifty ,but most do upwards of sixty .D,c.c insist on putting crossings close to the exits of roundabouts adding to the danger .The verge has four foot weeds growing right to the edge of the road where the accident occurred, so no possible chance of seeing pedestrians before they step out .Other than that the road is quite safe????
The road has a top speed of fifty ,but most do upwards of sixty .D,c.c insist on putting crossings close to the exits of roundabouts adding to the danger .The verge has four foot weeds growing right to the edge of the road where the accident occurred, so no possible chance of seeing pedestrians before they step out .Other than that the road is quite safe???? timgriffiths1962@gmail.com
  • Score: -12

5:33pm Fri 5 Sep 14

timgriffiths1962@gmail.com says...

The road has a speed limit of fifty but most do sixty or upwards .D.c.c have insisted on siting the crossings only metres from the roundabout ,which is nt as bad as their worse cockup of having a bus stop in the inner lane near westwey house .The grass verges have nt been cut for months so the weeds which are now four feet high obscuring the crossing where the nasty accident happened, but do allow the speed cops to hide .Other than that the road is perfectly safe.
The road has a speed limit of fifty but most do sixty or upwards .D.c.c have insisted on siting the crossings only metres from the roundabout ,which is nt as bad as their worse cockup of having a bus stop in the inner lane near westwey house .The grass verges have nt been cut for months so the weeds which are now four feet high obscuring the crossing where the nasty accident happened, but do allow the speed cops to hide .Other than that the road is perfectly safe. timgriffiths1962@gmail.com
  • Score: -13

7:22am Sat 6 Sep 14

Simesen says...

Yes! It is dangerous. All new road and cycle path layouts should be designed to be inherently safe. There has been a total lack of this ethic in the design of Weymouth's 'new' road system by the so called 'experts'. Safe design at the outset would save a lot of lives and money later on. Complaints to the Authorities seem useless as they just blame the users for not adapting to this unsafe system!
Yes! It is dangerous. All new road and cycle path layouts should be designed to be inherently safe. There has been a total lack of this ethic in the design of Weymouth's 'new' road system by the so called 'experts'. Safe design at the outset would save a lot of lives and money later on. Complaints to the Authorities seem useless as they just blame the users for not adapting to this unsafe system! Simesen
  • Score: 4

12:15pm Sat 6 Sep 14

shy talk says...

During the winter months if the cycle path freezes over. And cyclists choose to use this section; it will be lethal without a crash barrier in place. Will Dorset Highways grit this section? I suspect not.
During the winter months if the cycle path freezes over. And cyclists choose to use this section; it will be lethal without a crash barrier in place. Will Dorset Highways grit this section? I suspect not. shy talk
  • Score: 0

8:51am Sun 7 Sep 14

timgriffiths1962@gmail.com says...

Well said simesen ,somebody who talks sense .As I will stand again for council the first priority is to get on the transport committee and bring back roundabouts ???
Well said simesen ,somebody who talks sense .As I will stand again for council the first priority is to get on the transport committee and bring back roundabouts ??? timgriffiths1962@gmail.com
  • Score: -8

10:38pm Sun 7 Sep 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

I really think there are much bigger fish to fry.
There are far far more dangerous sections of road with absolutely no cycle path.
Specifically there is no way to join the two ( yes count them, not one but two ) cycle lanes from the top of the esplanade to Preston and beyond, other than to use Greenhill which makes the pictured risk a cakewalk. However I do see the council have erected a nice shiny new sign to alert cyclists to the fact that they cannot use the esplanade, despite the fact that it is used by council lorries, it's continually used by the land train all day and mobility scooter race up and down it with complete impunity.
Greenhill is a total nightmare for anyone on a bicycle. Cars very aggressively force you over right up against a high kerb and will and do get nasty if you don't capitulate.
Absolutely ridiculous does not even begin to sum it up. This will be changed eventually and the council trying to pretend it won't is simply wasting everybody's time and money.
Do we need a barrier along this stretch if road? Nowhere near as much as we need a connection between Preston and the old pier bandstand. That may well result actually saving lives, and by hook or by crook the council are going to have to provide a solution, no matter how much they think thy are going to dictate policy.
I really think there are much bigger fish to fry. There are far far more dangerous sections of road with absolutely no cycle path. Specifically there is no way to join the two ( yes count them, not one but two ) cycle lanes from the top of the esplanade to Preston and beyond, other than to use Greenhill which makes the pictured risk a cakewalk. However I do see the council have erected a nice shiny new sign to alert cyclists to the fact that they cannot use the esplanade, despite the fact that it is used by council lorries, it's continually used by the land train all day and mobility scooter race up and down it with complete impunity. Greenhill is a total nightmare for anyone on a bicycle. Cars very aggressively force you over right up against a high kerb and will and do get nasty if you don't capitulate. Absolutely ridiculous does not even begin to sum it up. This will be changed eventually and the council trying to pretend it won't is simply wasting everybody's time and money. Do we need a barrier along this stretch if road? Nowhere near as much as we need a connection between Preston and the old pier bandstand. That may well result actually saving lives, and by hook or by crook the council are going to have to provide a solution, no matter how much they think thy are going to dictate policy. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 6

9:48am Mon 8 Sep 14

JoeyJo says...

martaaay2 wrote:
the cycle lane is straighter than the picture makes it look...
Absolutely right. I assume that the letter was written by a motorist who has never ridden, or even walked, down this path. There is no more chance of a cyclist going into the road here than there is on many other sections of cycle paths throughout the borough. If you want a comparison, the narrow section of the path along Portland Beach Road is far more dangerous.
[quote][p][bold]martaaay2[/bold] wrote: the cycle lane is straighter than the picture makes it look...[/p][/quote]Absolutely right. I assume that the letter was written by a motorist who has never ridden, or even walked, down this path. There is no more chance of a cyclist going into the road here than there is on many other sections of cycle paths throughout the borough. If you want a comparison, the narrow section of the path along Portland Beach Road is far more dangerous. JoeyJo
  • Score: 7

3:37pm Mon 8 Sep 14

timgriffiths1962@gmail.com says...

two points joyjoe where is the narrow point along the beach road, and why should the cycle ways always be straight ,for one its the most boring waste of a good cycle ride ,and another it allows cyclist to pick up speed and become a danger their selves, not unlike the rodwell trail.
two points joyjoe where is the narrow point along the beach road, and why should the cycle ways always be straight ,for one its the most boring waste of a good cycle ride ,and another it allows cyclist to pick up speed and become a danger their selves, not unlike the rodwell trail. timgriffiths1962@gmail.com
  • Score: -9

6:30pm Mon 8 Sep 14

JoeyJo says...

timgriffiths1962@gma
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wrote:
two points joyjoe where is the narrow point along the beach road, and why should the cycle ways always be straight ,for one its the most boring waste of a good cycle ride ,and another it allows cyclist to pick up speed and become a danger their selves, not unlike the rodwell trail.
The section of Beach Road (not a point) between Hamm Beach Road and Victoria Square is too narrow with heavy vehicles coming too close to the cycle/pedestrian path.

I didn't say that routes should be straight. The letter writer says that this particular route is unsafe because it goes towards the road and this is not the case.

The Rodwell Trail is not unsafe. I use it every day either walking or cycling.
[quote][p][bold]timgriffiths1962@gma il.com[/bold] wrote: two points joyjoe where is the narrow point along the beach road, and why should the cycle ways always be straight ,for one its the most boring waste of a good cycle ride ,and another it allows cyclist to pick up speed and become a danger their selves, not unlike the rodwell trail.[/p][/quote]The section of Beach Road (not a point) between Hamm Beach Road and Victoria Square is too narrow with heavy vehicles coming too close to the cycle/pedestrian path. I didn't say that routes should be straight. The letter writer says that this particular route is unsafe because it goes towards the road and this is not the case. The Rodwell Trail is not unsafe. I use it every day either walking or cycling. JoeyJo
  • Score: 7

9:43am Tue 9 Sep 14

timgriffiths1962@gmail.com says...

joeyjo. There is a cycle route through the sailing centre which is away from traffic d.c.c. is cash strapped at the moment and a few cyclist moaning will not make them spend money on a upgrade. .My point about the paths being straight and close to the roads is this. cycling is all about getting fit and enjoying your surroundings, the path to Dorchester is atypical example high pollution levels and very boring.as well as the safety issue.
joeyjo. There is a cycle route through the sailing centre which is away from traffic d.c.c. is cash strapped at the moment and a few cyclist moaning will not make them spend money on a upgrade. .My point about the paths being straight and close to the roads is this. cycling is all about getting fit and enjoying your surroundings, the path to Dorchester is atypical example high pollution levels and very boring.as well as the safety issue. timgriffiths1962@gmail.com
  • Score: -6

10:32am Tue 9 Sep 14

JoeyJo says...

Cycling is primarily transport, getting from A to B, going to school, work, the shops etc. DCC upgraded the pavement which I mentioned, so did put money into it, both theirs and from national government. This was not because cyclists were moaning. So by spending just a little bit more money it could have been done properly.
Cycling is primarily transport, getting from A to B, going to school, work, the shops etc. DCC upgraded the pavement which I mentioned, so did put money into it, both theirs and from national government. This was not because cyclists were moaning. So by spending just a little bit more money it could have been done properly. JoeyJo
  • Score: 5

11:41pm Wed 10 Sep 14

Artstudent says...

This part of the cycle route is not as dangerous as the whole length of Granby way which is, with brambles growing unmanaged, too narrow for two cyclists to pass safely. Or the section along the Chickerell link road which is now broken by the entrance to the new industrial park, the cycle lane around the ring road was designed to provide a safe and sustainable transport link for families, clearly not any more. Though it really doesn't matter much as most often, on arrival in Weymouth, the cyclist will find not enough bike spaces. Especially if the cyclist wants to shop at the jubilee retail park which provide none.
This part of the cycle route is not as dangerous as the whole length of Granby way which is, with brambles growing unmanaged, too narrow for two cyclists to pass safely. Or the section along the Chickerell link road which is now broken by the entrance to the new industrial park, the cycle lane around the ring road was designed to provide a safe and sustainable transport link for families, clearly not any more. Though it really doesn't matter much as most often, on arrival in Weymouth, the cyclist will find not enough bike spaces. Especially if the cyclist wants to shop at the jubilee retail park which provide none. Artstudent
  • Score: 1

7:47am Thu 11 Sep 14

timgriffiths1962@gmail.com says...

I cycle daily and can state categorically that I have the body of someone half my age .I am sorry artstudent but you typify what is wrong with the nandy pandy attitude of the next generation. The jubilee shops have loads of fixtures to lock your volispeed to. the granby is undergoing dramatic upheaval as the jones turn it into a concrete jungle ,we need more secure routes especially around the granby as betterments and the jones concrete everything in sight making the road network impossible for cyclists .Are you one of these young whipsnappers who call the AA to repair your puncture???
I cycle daily and can state categorically that I have the body of someone half my age .I am sorry artstudent but you typify what is wrong with the nandy pandy attitude of the next generation. The jubilee shops have loads of fixtures to lock your volispeed to. the granby is undergoing dramatic upheaval as the jones turn it into a concrete jungle ,we need more secure routes especially around the granby as betterments and the jones concrete everything in sight making the road network impossible for cyclists .Are you one of these young whipsnappers who call the AA to repair your puncture??? timgriffiths1962@gmail.com
  • Score: 0

9:06am Sat 13 Sep 14

timgriffiths1962@gmail.com says...

I totally agree with parkstreetshuffle on the fact that the esplanade is wide enough to accommodate cyclist as well as every tom dick and harry on their very large mobility scooters?What is the cost of a few white lines??/
I totally agree with parkstreetshuffle on the fact that the esplanade is wide enough to accommodate cyclist as well as every tom dick and harry on their very large mobility scooters?What is the cost of a few white lines??/ timgriffiths1962@gmail.com
  • Score: 0

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