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Relief road inquiry decision due soon

WEYMOUTH could hear the result of a public inquiry into its £84.6 million proposed relief road within the next three weeks.

The long inquiry under inspector Alan Gray heard dozens of submissions from supporters and opponents of the controversial scheme before he closed the inquiry in March.

Since then the road decision has been keenly awaited and a spokesman for Dorset County Council said: "We are still hoping to hear the result of the inquiry in the next three weeks.

"Mr Gray has had all the documentation for some time now and will contact our legal team when a decision has been made."

If the inquiry backs the relief road then work on it is hoped to start this summer with a view to finishing by spring 2011.

Among supporters of the route is South Dorset MP Jim Knight who said: "Driving down Dorchester Road this morning it was being dug up again as will always be the case when work is needed on utilities. It was a perfect example of the crying-out need for this road for the whole borough.

"I am optimistic that the inquiry inspector will bow to common sense and recommend that this road should proceed.

"It will do wonders for our economy and for the quality of life for thousands of people who live in Broadwey and Upwey.

"It will also allow the development of the country park in the Lorton valley."

Weymouth and Portland special projects spokesman Coun Howard Legg said he hoped the inquiry backed the road.

He added: "The relief road is something that Weymouth needs and which seems to have significant public support.

"We need it to boost the economy, to speed up getting into and out of the resort and to cut noise and pollution along Dorchester Road."

The route for the proposed relief road will bypass Broadwey, Upwey and Dorchester Road by linking Manor Roundabout to the A354 at Ridgeway Hill.

Supporters told the inquiry that the road would have a very positive effect', had heavy public support and would improve the situation for drivers, pedestrians and cyclists alike.

But opponents claimed that no need for the road had been shown and, if it was built, the road would do nothing to reduce congestion and delays while damaging ancient woodland with a scheme which was unnecessary and undesirable'.

11:29am Saturday 12th July 2008

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Posted by: nige, dorchester on 12:38pm Sat 12 Jul 08
The scheme is forecast to give rise to increased carbon dioxide emissions: 2,347 tonnes in the opening year alone
Posted by: nige, dorchester on 12:40pm Sat 12 Jul 08
Since the economy of the area has been described by Weymouth & Portland Borough Council as ‘booming’ and by Dorset County Council as ‘successful’, any claim that the road is necessary for the economy of the area is not credible. The County Council’s more recent argument that it is needed to offset any future downturn in the economy has the ring of desperation.
Posted by: Perry Winkle, Weymouth on 1:58pm Sat 12 Jul 08
nige wrote:
Since the economy of the area has been described by Weymouth & Portland Borough Council as ‘booming’ and by Dorset County Council as ‘successful’, any claim that the road is necessary for the economy of the area is not credible. The County Council’s more recent argument that it is needed to offset any future downturn in the economy has the ring of desperation.
Be quiet and bow to common sense! You can always decline to use the road if you feel that strongly opposed
Posted by: Perry Winkle, Weymouth on 2:01pm Sat 12 Jul 08
nige wrote:
Since the economy of the area has been described by Weymouth & Portland Borough Council as ‘booming’ and by Dorset County Council as ‘successful’, any claim that the road is necessary for the economy of the area is not credible. The County Council’s more recent argument that it is needed to offset any future downturn in the economy has the ring of desperation.
Be quiet and bow to common sense! You can always decline to use the road if you feel that strongly opposed
Posted by: genghis, portland on 3:08pm Sat 12 Jul 08
That's good news then. If the results of the inquiry are announced before the end of July that means the post-Inquiry Inquiry will be able to start in early October at the latest.
Posted by: spangler on 3:36pm Sat 12 Jul 08
nige wrote:
The scheme is forecast to give rise to increased carbon dioxide emissions: 2,347 tonnes in the opening year alone
Nige,
Whether or not you believe the new road would ease congestion or you are concerned about the increase in pollution, if the increased C02 estimate you give correct then surely there is a demand which is not being met by the existing road.

genghis,
Surely there ought to be to be an inquiry into the need for a post-inquiry inquiry first.
Posted by: yogi, weymouth on 3:54pm Sat 12 Jul 08
Perry Winkle wrote:
nige wrote: Since the economy of the area has been described by Weymouth & Portland Borough Council as ‘booming’ and by Dorset County Council as ‘successful’, any claim that the road is necessary for the economy of the area is not credible. The County Council’s more recent argument that it is needed to offset any future downturn in the economy has the ring of desperation.
Be quiet and bow to common sense! You can always decline to use the road if you feel that strongly opposed
Common sense says that £84.6 millon for a 4 mile road into a cul de sac is ludicrous.
Posted by: genghis, portland on 4:11pm Sat 12 Jul 08
genghis wrote:
That's good news then. If the results of the inquiry are announced before the end of July that means the post-Inquiry Inquiry will be able to start in early October at the latest.
You know I totally forgot about that possibility. As it is the schedule is looking pretty packed what with the Intermediate Review Inquiry, the We've Just Moved Here And Haven't Had Our Say Yet Inquiry and the Nobody's Considered My Move The Proposed Road 10cm's To The Left Plan Inquiry all due next year.
Posted by: genghis, portland on 4:12pm Sat 12 Jul 08
New fangled computer things. meant to quopte Spangler's post.
Posted by: maximus, Weymouth on 4:37pm Sat 12 Jul 08
genghis, portland You forgot the 'Inquiry on whether we shall have tea and buns at the inquiry because DCC are short of cash' and also the 'Inquiry as to whether the road should be lined with wind turbines to supply lighting for the road'.
Posted by: DingDonG, Wilds of Wiltshire on 7:17pm Sat 12 Jul 08
Let's just hope the new quary at Southwell is big enough to provide the hardcore for the bypass. Otherwise, the contracors will be flying it in from China. That'll bugguer all the carbon calculations !!
Posted by: genghis, portland on 9:10am Sun 13 Jul 08
nige wrote:
The scheme is forecast to give rise to increased carbon dioxide emissions: 2,347 tonnes in the opening year alone
That increase is likely to occur whether the new road is built or not. Volume of traffic is increasing all the time. One argument of the anti-road campaign is that new roads automatically increases road traffic. That's like saying new houses increases the population.
Posted by: chanticleer, locked on on 2:19pm Sun 13 Jul 08
Don't forget that the Department of Transport has decided that, as new road construction costs have dramatically risen in the past few years, Local Authorities such as DCC will have to foot their share of the increase. In other words, as DCC are responsible for making the cost estimate, new proposals mean that Dorset residents are going to fund the increases - not central government.
Posted by: John Holmes, Weymouth on 8:33pm Sun 13 Jul 08
yogi wrote:
Perry Winkle wrote:
nige wrote: Since the economy of the area has been described by Weymouth & Portland Borough Council as ‘booming’ and by Dorset County Council as ‘successful’, any claim that the road is necessary for the economy of the area is not credible. The County Council’s more recent argument that it is needed to offset any future downturn in the economy has the ring of desperation.
Be quiet and bow to common sense! You can always decline to use the road if you feel that strongly opposed
Common sense says that £84.6 millon for a 4 mile road into a cul de sac is ludicrous.
Not when the 4 mile route will boost the local economy immeasurably!
Posted by: John Holmes, Weymouth on 8:36pm Sun 13 Jul 08
yogi wrote:
Perry Winkle wrote:
nige wrote: Since the economy of the area has been described by Weymouth & Portland Borough Council as ‘booming’ and by Dorset County Council as ‘successful’, any claim that the road is necessary for the economy of the area is not credible. The County Council’s more recent argument that it is needed to offset any future downturn in the economy has the ring of desperation.
Be quiet and bow to common sense! You can always decline to use the road if you feel that strongly opposed
Common sense says that £84.6 millon for a 4 mile road into a cul de sac is ludicrous.
Not when the 4 mile route will boost the local economy immeasurably!
Posted by: Brett Favre#4, Weymouth on 3:57pm Mon 14 Jul 08
genghis wrote:
nige wrote: The scheme is forecast to give rise to increased carbon dioxide emissions: 2,347 tonnes in the opening year alone
That increase is likely to occur whether the new road is built or not. Volume of traffic is increasing all the time. One argument of the anti-road campaign is that new roads automatically increases road traffic. That's like saying new houses increases the population.
On this note, i've just ordered by new, gas guzzling 4x4 just to drive on this new stretch of road. For every other road in Weymouth i'll be using my 3 year old Ford Focus.... following an inquiry obviously.
Posted by: jac, weymouth on 10:34pm Mon 14 Jul 08
HAVING JUST SPENT2 HOURS AND 20 MINUTES TRAVELLING FROM DORCHESTER TO WEYMOUTH,QUEUEING TO GET INTO WEYMOUTH FORM THE TESCO ROUNDABOUT IN DORCHESTER! ANYONE OPPOSING THIS GOD **** ROAD NEEDS TO MAKE THAT JOURNEY.. THEN TELL US WE DONT NEED IT!!! IT'S AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!!! GET A GRIP AND BUILD THE **** THING! THINGS ARENT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER, ROADWORKS OR NOT!
Posted by: yogi, weymouth station on 8:27am Tue 15 Jul 08
jac wrote:
HAVING JUST SPENT2 HOURS AND 20 MINUTES TRAVELLING FROM DORCHESTER TO WEYMOUTH,QUEUEING TO GET INTO WEYMOUTH FORM THE TESCO ROUNDABOUT IN DORCHESTER! ANYONE OPPOSING THIS GOD **** ROAD NEEDS TO MAKE THAT JOURNEY.. THEN TELL US WE DONT NEED IT!!! IT'S AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!!! GET A GRIP AND BUILD THE **** THING! THINGS ARENT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER, ROADWORKS OR NOT!
Its quicker by train it takes only 15 minutes and there are two an hour.
Posted by: jac, weymouth on 11:27am Tue 15 Jul 08
thank you for that gem of information, but it's a bit late to get on a train once you're on the bus stuck in the traffic!!!
Posted by: dunketh, Portland on 11:45am Tue 15 Jul 08
Regarding carbon emissions surely there cant be a lot in it. The current road forces cars to sit idling for anytime up to an hour. Going nowhere but still sat with their engines running.
If the new road ends these delays then the same cars will make the journey quicker, hence producing less C02 over the time taken for one journey.
The road wont increase the traffic, it'll merely allow the already excessive amount to pass more quickly and easily.
Anyone opposed to the scheme is clearly not thinking straight. In an ideal world we'd all use public transport, car numbers would drop and roads would stay small and not eat up the countryside, but at the moment public transport is far too expensive. Until that changes our hands are forced by our wallets.
My wife and I can drive to Weymouth from Portland for a pounds petrol and park all day for free in Chapelhay or similar. How does this compare to nearly £4 in bus fares?
Posted by: yogi, weymouth on 12:53pm Tue 15 Jul 08
jac wrote:
thank you for that gem of information, but it's a bit late to get on a train once you're on the bus stuck in the traffic!!!
No problem
Posted by: Maggot, Weymouth on 1:59pm Tue 15 Jul 08
dunketh wrote:
Regarding carbon emissions surely there cant be a lot in it. The current road forces cars to sit idling for anytime up to an hour. Going nowhere but still sat with their engines running. If the new road ends these delays then the same cars will make the journey quicker, hence producing less C02 over the time taken for one journey. The road wont increase the traffic, it'll merely allow the already excessive amount to pass more quickly and easily. Anyone opposed to the scheme is clearly not thinking straight. In an ideal world we'd all use public transport, car numbers would drop and roads would stay small and not eat up the countryside, but at the moment public transport is far too expensive. Until that changes our hands are forced by our wallets. My wife and I can drive to Weymouth from Portland for a pounds petrol and park all day for free in Chapelhay or similar. How does this compare to nearly £4 in bus fares?
Well, if the road gets the go-ahead you will probably end up paying considerably more in your council tax to pay for it whether you like it or not (and you won't be able to park out of town to avoid that).

Also, I'm willing to bet that it ends up at a LOT more than £84 million. How much do the pro-road lot reckon it's worth then, £150 million?

How much would be too much? How much more would you be willing to pay per week for it?
Posted by: Fishman68, Weymouth on 2:24pm Tue 15 Jul 08
Looking forward to the ability to travel to Weymouth without having to sit in traffic jams on Dorchester road spewing CO2 out because some draft ponker thought it would be a good idead to dig the road up again!!! Are those traffic lights really necassary took a friend of mine 2hours yesterday evening to get from Dorchester to Weymouth. We need this relief road ASAP!
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Posted by: Tim Weymouth Boy, Weymouth on 4:39pm Tue 15 Jul 08
yogi wrote:
jac wrote:
HAVING JUST SPENT2 HOURS AND 20 MINUTES TRAVELLING FROM DORCHESTER TO WEYMOUTH,QUEUEING TO GET INTO WEYMOUTH FORM THE TESCO ROUNDABOUT IN DORCHESTER! ANYONE OPPOSING THIS GOD **** ROAD NEEDS TO MAKE THAT JOURNEY.. THEN TELL US WE DONT NEED IT!!! IT'S AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!!! GET A GRIP AND BUILD THE **** THING! THINGS ARENT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER, ROADWORKS OR NOT!
Its quicker by train it takes only 15 minutes and there are two an hour.
I work in Poole every day and the train isn't an option with the amount it costs. It is cheaper by car even with the current fuel prices. The train is also late more times than it is on time (especially in the summer) and my work got very angry the month I spent traveling to work on the train. I hate it when people say this, especially when they work in Weymouth and don’t have any experience of traveling on the train everyday.
Posted by: yogi, weymouth on 7:01pm Tue 15 Jul 08
Tim Weymouth Boy wrote:
yogi wrote:
jac wrote: HAVING JUST SPENT2 HOURS AND 20 MINUTES TRAVELLING FROM DORCHESTER TO WEYMOUTH,QUEUEING TO GET INTO WEYMOUTH FORM THE TESCO ROUNDABOUT IN DORCHESTER! ANYONE OPPOSING THIS GOD **** ROAD NEEDS TO MAKE THAT JOURNEY.. THEN TELL US WE DONT NEED IT!!! IT'S AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!!! GET A GRIP AND BUILD THE **** THING! THINGS ARENT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER, ROADWORKS OR NOT!
Its quicker by train it takes only 15 minutes and there are two an hour.
I work in Poole every day and the train isn't an option with the amount it costs. It is cheaper by car even with the current fuel prices. The train is also late more times than it is on time (especially in the summer) and my work got very angry the month I spent traveling to work on the train. I hate it when people say this, especially when they work in Weymouth and don’t have any experience of traveling on the train everyday.
Maybe you should live where you work, It would be a lot cheaper...
Posted by: jac, weymouth on 11:10pm Tue 15 Jul 08
Yogi, i think you'll find very few people actually work where they live these days, so thats not really a valid point... but thanks for sharing and giving us an insight into your ideal world :D
Posted by: dunketh, Portland on 11:09am Wed 16 Jul 08
Well, if the road gets the go-ahead you will probably end up paying considerably more in your council tax to pay for it whether you like it or not (and you won't be able to park out of town to avoid that).


I'd always assumed it would be bankrolled by the RDA or some similar organisation, as is the case with the the sailing stuff on Portland.
If its a 'Council-led' project the anti-road group should have no worries as it'll never see the light of day with those incompetents at the helm.
Posted by: Maggot, Weymouth on 3:58pm Wed 16 Jul 08
jac wrote:
Yogi, i think you'll find very few people actually work where they live these days, so thats not really a valid point... but thanks for sharing and giving us an insight into your ideal world :D
I don't know what rarified strata of society you live in but in the real world luckily most people live near to where they work otherwise they wouldn't be able to build a relief road big enough. And if you really find your commute so intolerable either change job or change house; why should we all pay to knock a few minutes off your self-imposed journey?
Posted by: jac, weymouth on 10:25pm Wed 16 Jul 08
Thank you Maggot. glad you're living in a perfect world. I simply made a comment about the Dorchester road causing such chaos simply because of roadworks. But thanks for your comments.
Posted by: kmatt, Weymouth on 9:39am Thu 17 Jul 08
Travelling from Upwey to Portland and back every day is becoming worse, I'm stressed before I even get to my desk. It took 45 mins to get to work today trying every short cut possible.. something has to be sorted asap!
Posted by: JamesY, Dorchester on 1:08pm Thu 17 Jul 08
Maggot wrote:
dunketh wrote: Regarding carbon emissions surely there cant be a lot in it. The current road forces cars to sit idling for anytime up to an hour. Going nowhere but still sat with their engines running. If the new road ends these delays then the same cars will make the journey quicker, hence producing less C02 over the time taken for one journey. The road wont increase the traffic, it'll merely allow the already excessive amount to pass more quickly and easily. Anyone opposed to the scheme is clearly not thinking straight. In an ideal world we'd all use public transport, car numbers would drop and roads would stay small and not eat up the countryside, but at the moment public transport is far too expensive. Until that changes our hands are forced by our wallets. My wife and I can drive to Weymouth from Portland for a pounds petrol and park all day for free in Chapelhay or similar. How does this compare to nearly £4 in bus fares?
Well, if the road gets the go-ahead you will probably end up paying considerably more in your council tax to pay for it whether you like it or not (and you won't be able to park out of town to avoid that). Also, I'm willing to bet that it ends up at a LOT more than £84 million. How much do the pro-road lot reckon it's worth then, £150 million? How much would be too much? How much more would you be willing to pay per week for it?
One could argue that had the small anti-road contingent shut up when they were first defeated, it would have cost less than the £84m predicted cost.

Anyway, whilst i have historically been pro-road i think the point is moot as clearly soaring fuel bills will start to affect our travel choices in the next 2-3 years.
Posted by: Xcabie, Weymouth on 1:23pm Mon 21 Jul 08
nige wrote:
The scheme is forecast to give rise to increased carbon dioxide emissions: 2,347 tonnes in the opening year alone
That's quite good actually, I assume there will be a corresponding drop in emissions along Dorchester road then.
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