Weymouth Esplanade may shut in summertime car-free plan for seafront

Dorset Echo: GOOD TIMES: The Dorset Wind Gathering Machine during the Battle For The Winds parade along Weymouth Esplanade	 Picture: GRAHAM HUNT/HG9784 GOOD TIMES: The Dorset Wind Gathering Machine during the Battle For The Winds parade along Weymouth Esplanade Picture: GRAHAM HUNT/HG9784

WEYMOUTH seafront could become traffic-free in the summer in a lasting Olympic legacy for the town.

Positive feedback following the two-week closure of the Esplanade during the Olympic Games has prompted council chiefs to consider doing it again to boost the feel good factor for future seasons.

Exact details have yet to be decided but both Weymouth and Portland Borough Council and Dorset County Council confirmed they have been discussing it.

But the closure is not being welcomed by everyone.

Road closures were in place during main Games time from the end of July to mid August including the seafront which shut to traffic between 10am and 10pm, leading to a relaxed environment for pedestrians.

Speaking after the Olympics, the head of the local operations team Simon Williams said: “We had a huge amount of feedback saying it was fantastic and can’t we have it again.

“Clearly that is something that can’t be done lightly for a long period but it could be considered as part of an overall transport strategy, where some restrictions could be applied for certain events.

“It’s a freeing up for pedestrians – that safety, that relaxed environment, was greatly appreciated by people.”

President of the Weymouth and Portland Chamber of Commerce Anna-Maria Geare said research after the Olympics revealed the majority of members were generally in favour of a seafront closure although everyone had different views on the details.

“Members agreed it would be beneficial to the visitor experience,” she said.

Mrs Geare urged traders, whether they were members of the chamber of not, to take part in a survey regarding their experience of the Olympics via the group’s website.

Beach trader Tony Deadman said a partial closure outside seafront bars might be a good idea but he would be concerned if the whole stretch was closed.

He said: “The restrictions during the Olympics made Weymouth like a ghost town at night, no-one was driving in. We were closing early on some evenings in August which is unheard of.”

Dave Price of the Weymouth Hoteliers, Guesthouses and Lease-holders Association said: “I’m not against it but it would still need to be accessible for people staying at accommodation.

“We’re awaiting feedback from our members at the far end of the seafront.”

Mike Nicol of Cavendish House guesthouse on the Esplanade said a closure would mean accommodation providers would miss passing trade.

He added: “If the council wants to kill all the B and Bs in this town they should go right ahead and close the seafront.”

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10:08am Sat 17 Nov 12

fixbike says...

i spoke lots of locals who got on there bikes over the Olympic's who had never cycled into town before and they loved it and most said they would like this to happen again. i know that there is business against it but you could look at this working for you as well.
i spoke lots of locals who got on there bikes over the Olympic's who had never cycled into town before and they loved it and most said they would like this to happen again. i know that there is business against it but you could look at this working for you as well. fixbike

10:21am Sat 17 Nov 12

Portland Frankie says...

Great news. Looking forward to it.
Great news. Looking forward to it. Portland Frankie

10:24am Sat 17 Nov 12

Joe_Bloggs says...

This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ???

Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along.

What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again.
This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ??? Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along. What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again. Joe_Bloggs

10:37am Sat 17 Nov 12

fixbike says...

the buses where still running ,there is now a park and ride which goes to the pavilion which is mainly used by day trippers this is more about making the seafront a nicer place.if done right this could work well. reducing cars on the rd should be what we are looking for not a total stop i will be happy with that
the buses where still running ,there is now a park and ride which goes to the pavilion which is mainly used by day trippers this is more about making the seafront a nicer place.if done right this could work well. reducing cars on the rd should be what we are looking for not a total stop i will be happy with that fixbike

10:39am Sat 17 Nov 12

melcombe boy says...

Joe_Bloggs wrote:
This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ???

Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along.

What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again.
Condor will still be able to operate.
During the Olympic closure of the seafront buses used the kings statue bus stops as normal.
Your final observation about the pavilion just proves you have a blinkered and negative stance. Think things through a bit!
[quote][p][bold]Joe_Bloggs[/bold] wrote: This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ??? Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along. What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again.[/p][/quote]Condor will still be able to operate. During the Olympic closure of the seafront buses used the kings statue bus stops as normal. Your final observation about the pavilion just proves you have a blinkered and negative stance. Think things through a bit! melcombe boy

11:26am Sat 17 Nov 12

Isosceles says...

Why don't they just close the town down for the summer season? For years and years, pedestrians and vehicles have co-existed along the Esplanade.
I haven't seen letters to the editor asking for the closure and if similar arrangements to the olimpics period are put in place, this will disadvantage any blue badge holders who might wish to use the allocated places after 10 am but won't be able to.
Why don't they just close the town down for the summer season? For years and years, pedestrians and vehicles have co-existed along the Esplanade. I haven't seen letters to the editor asking for the closure and if similar arrangements to the olimpics period are put in place, this will disadvantage any blue badge holders who might wish to use the allocated places after 10 am but won't be able to. Isosceles

11:27am Sat 17 Nov 12

cecilbdoomil says...

Yep , what about Condor. Short sighted people again?
Yep , what about Condor. Short sighted people again? cecilbdoomil

11:33am Sat 17 Nov 12

cecilbdoomil says...

Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour?

Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?
Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour? Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art? cecilbdoomil

11:55am Sat 17 Nov 12

wykeregislad says...

This is a good move forward in the right direction, as a ambassador working every day during the Olympics on the seafront the longer it went on the better the feedback became, the busses still ran, condor would still operate in the summer, majority of there sailings are early am, and late returns, so disruption would be minimal, I couldn't see them moving to Portland because of the fees occurred.
The trade for seafront business would only benefit if people could sit out on the front, the reason it was slow during the first week was bad PR, and over priced accommodation.
All people I spoke to as a ambassador whilst on the seafront loved it,
This is definitely the way forward
This is a good move forward in the right direction, as a ambassador working every day during the Olympics on the seafront the longer it went on the better the feedback became, the busses still ran, condor would still operate in the summer, majority of there sailings are early am, and late returns, so disruption would be minimal, I couldn't see them moving to Portland because of the fees occurred. The trade for seafront business would only benefit if people could sit out on the front, the reason it was slow during the first week was bad PR, and over priced accommodation. All people I spoke to as a ambassador whilst on the seafront loved it, This is definitely the way forward wykeregislad

1:20pm Sat 17 Nov 12

ksmain says...

This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion.

There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for.

From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it?

And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well?
This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion. There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for. From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it? And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well? ksmain

1:33pm Sat 17 Nov 12

wykeregislad says...

ksmain wrote:
This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion.

There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for.

From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it?

And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well?
The ferry operates very early and late,so disruption minimal, and there still have access, during the games you could get access early and late, also a car free esplanade is a win win, it makes the town more appeal able , park in a town car park
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion. There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for. From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it? And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well?[/p][/quote]The ferry operates very early and late,so disruption minimal, and there still have access, during the games you could get access early and late, also a car free esplanade is a win win, it makes the town more appeal able , park in a town car park wykeregislad

1:50pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Isosceles says...

wykeregislad
During the summer, lots of those using the beach, especially those less able, park along the Esplanade or get dropped off by cars which then park elsewhere. The idea of closing the Esplanade to traffic seems selfish. As I have said before, pedestrians never seemed unduly deterred from visiting Weymouth and sharing the Esplanade in the past and the situation that was the norm before the upheaval of the olimpics should continue.
Drivers of commercial delivery and tradesmen's vehicles put up with the ban as a one-off during the olimpics, will they accept a ban every summer, or hadn't you thought about that?
wykeregislad During the summer, lots of those using the beach, especially those less able, park along the Esplanade or get dropped off by cars which then park elsewhere. The idea of closing the Esplanade to traffic seems selfish. As I have said before, pedestrians never seemed unduly deterred from visiting Weymouth and sharing the Esplanade in the past and the situation that was the norm before the upheaval of the olimpics should continue. Drivers of commercial delivery and tradesmen's vehicles put up with the ban as a one-off during the olimpics, will they accept a ban every summer, or hadn't you thought about that? Isosceles

3:30pm Sat 17 Nov 12

weymouthfox says...

"Traffic free" suggests no vehicles being allowed. In fact, during the Olympics a large number of vehicles were let through the road blocks- the land train, council lorries, police cars, ambulances, fire vehicles, delivery lorries, vans, stewards and official cars. This is all the more dangerous when pedestrians are not expecting traffic. I say leave the situation as it is and encourage more people to use our ailing town centre.
"Traffic free" suggests no vehicles being allowed. In fact, during the Olympics a large number of vehicles were let through the road blocks- the land train, council lorries, police cars, ambulances, fire vehicles, delivery lorries, vans, stewards and official cars. This is all the more dangerous when pedestrians are not expecting traffic. I say leave the situation as it is and encourage more people to use our ailing town centre. weymouthfox

5:17pm Sat 17 Nov 12

melcombe boy says...

ksmain wrote:
This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion.

There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for.

From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it?

And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well?
" From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do"
Umm. Sorry I don't believe you. I live on the Seafront and in the Summer it is nearly impossible to find a space to park along the seafront during the day even with my paid for parking permit.
The parking arrangements for us seafront residents during the Olympics were brilliant.
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion. There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for. From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it? And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well?[/p][/quote]" From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do" Umm. Sorry I don't believe you. I live on the Seafront and in the Summer it is nearly impossible to find a space to park along the seafront during the day even with my paid for parking permit. The parking arrangements for us seafront residents during the Olympics were brilliant. melcombe boy

5:28pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Isosceles says...

melcombe boy says 'I live on the Seafront and in the Summer it is nearly impossible to find a space to park along the seafront during the day even with my paid for parking permit'.

Did you choose to live there? If so it is your own fault.
I live a long way from the town centre and have no problems with parking, day or night, all the year round because that was my choice of location.
melcombe boy says 'I live on the Seafront and in the Summer it is nearly impossible to find a space to park along the seafront during the day even with my paid for parking permit'. Did you choose to live there? If so it is your own fault. I live a long way from the town centre and have no problems with parking, day or night, all the year round because that was my choice of location. Isosceles

5:51pm Sat 17 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

There are great wide pavements on either side of the road, (recently widened), why the hell do people need to walk in the road as well. What about relatives trying to reach their elderly parents that live in apartments I that area ? What about district nurses & midwives and doctors trying to reach their patients ? Taxi drivers trying to reach or drop off their customers, visitors trying to get to their hotels etc etc. last summer during the wretched Olympics, motorist had to make 3 mile detour just to get fro one side of town to the other. This s a stupid, ill conceived idea, that does nothing for the environment (long detours mean more exhaust fumes pumped into the atmosphere ), higher costs to local delivery firms, and all so that some lazy selfish people can walk in the middle of the road.
There are great wide pavements on either side of the road, (recently widened), why the hell do people need to walk in the road as well. What about relatives trying to reach their elderly parents that live in apartments I that area ? What about district nurses & midwives and doctors trying to reach their patients ? Taxi drivers trying to reach or drop off their customers, visitors trying to get to their hotels etc etc. last summer during the wretched Olympics, motorist had to make 3 mile detour just to get fro one side of town to the other. This s a stupid, ill conceived idea, that does nothing for the environment (long detours mean more exhaust fumes pumped into the atmosphere ), higher costs to local delivery firms, and all so that some lazy selfish people can walk in the middle of the road. I'mavoter

5:56pm Sat 17 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

fixbike wrote:
i spoke lots of locals who got on there bikes over the Olympic's who had never cycled into town before and they loved it and most said they would like this to happen again. i know that there is business against it but you could look at this working for you as well.
I spoke to lads of locals that Hated it, it cost them a lot more in fuel to get around, and wasted a grey deal of time.
[quote][p][bold]fixbike[/bold] wrote: i spoke lots of locals who got on there bikes over the Olympic's who had never cycled into town before and they loved it and most said they would like this to happen again. i know that there is business against it but you could look at this working for you as well.[/p][/quote]I spoke to lads of locals that Hated it, it cost them a lot more in fuel to get around, and wasted a grey deal of time. I'mavoter

6:00pm Sat 17 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

fixbike wrote:
the buses where still running ,there is now a park and ride which goes to the pavilion which is mainly used by day trippers this is more about making the seafront a nicer place.if done right this could work well. reducing cars on the rd should be what we are looking for not a total stop i will be happy with that
You have great wide pavements on either side of this road, why is it necessary for you to walk in the road ?
Pavements are for walking on, roads are for driving on, for which motorists pay a great deal of tax for.
[quote][p][bold]fixbike[/bold] wrote: the buses where still running ,there is now a park and ride which goes to the pavilion which is mainly used by day trippers this is more about making the seafront a nicer place.if done right this could work well. reducing cars on the rd should be what we are looking for not a total stop i will be happy with that[/p][/quote]You have great wide pavements on either side of this road, why is it necessary for you to walk in the road ? Pavements are for walking on, roads are for driving on, for which motorists pay a great deal of tax for. I'mavoter

6:04pm Sat 17 Nov 12

ksmain says...

melcombe boy wrote:
ksmain wrote:
This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion.

There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for.

From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it?

And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well?
" From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do"
Umm. Sorry I don't believe you. I live on the Seafront and in the Summer it is nearly impossible to find a space to park along the seafront during the day even with my paid for parking permit.
The parking arrangements for us seafront residents during the Olympics were brilliant.
Well I do. And I always find a spot, and if I am not able to go and do this then another town (either Dorchester or Yeovil as both me and my wife work there) will get my business.

We are talking of shutting this area to traffic for 7 - 8 weeks not just 2, and from what i saw of the Olympics it just didn't merit it. I can't see what the fuss is about as pedestrians are already perfectly catered for.

If it was such a good idea, why haven't other resorts adopted it, eg like Brighton, where the conjestion is much more serious than Weymouth?
[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion. There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for. From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it? And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well?[/p][/quote]" From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do" Umm. Sorry I don't believe you. I live on the Seafront and in the Summer it is nearly impossible to find a space to park along the seafront during the day even with my paid for parking permit. The parking arrangements for us seafront residents during the Olympics were brilliant.[/p][/quote]Well I do. And I always find a spot, and if I am not able to go and do this then another town (either Dorchester or Yeovil as both me and my wife work there) will get my business. We are talking of shutting this area to traffic for 7 - 8 weeks not just 2, and from what i saw of the Olympics it just didn't merit it. I can't see what the fuss is about as pedestrians are already perfectly catered for. If it was such a good idea, why haven't other resorts adopted it, eg like Brighton, where the conjestion is much more serious than Weymouth? ksmain

6:06pm Sat 17 Nov 12

ksmain says...

cecilbdoomil wrote:
Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour?

Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?
I sure people will be really pleased with the extra 10 - 12 mile round trip, one they have negotiated their way up Rodwell first.
[quote][p][bold]cecilbdoomil[/bold] wrote: Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour? Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?[/p][/quote]I sure people will be really pleased with the extra 10 - 12 mile round trip, one they have negotiated their way up Rodwell first. ksmain

6:06pm Sat 17 Nov 12

ksmain says...

cecilbdoomil wrote:
Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour?

Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?
I sure people will be really pleased with the extra 10 - 12 mile round trip, one they have negotiated their way up Rodwell first.
[quote][p][bold]cecilbdoomil[/bold] wrote: Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour? Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?[/p][/quote]I sure people will be really pleased with the extra 10 - 12 mile round trip, one they have negotiated their way up Rodwell first. ksmain

8:44pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Simon Nicholas says...

melcombe boy wrote:
Joe_Bloggs wrote:
This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ???

Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along.

What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again.
Condor will still be able to operate.
During the Olympic closure of the seafront buses used the kings statue bus stops as normal.
Your final observation about the pavilion just proves you have a blinkered and negative stance. Think things through a bit!
Not actually correct.

The X53 had to be split into two separate routes, Exeter-Weymouth and Weymouth-Poole. Buses heading towards Exeter only actually picked up at Debenhams, as did the 501 open top to Portland Bill, and the South West Coaches service to Bagwell, amongst others. Loadings on the 501 (which relies on being seen on the promenade for much of its trade) were decimated as a result.

Simon N.
[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe_Bloggs[/bold] wrote: This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ??? Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along. What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again.[/p][/quote]Condor will still be able to operate. During the Olympic closure of the seafront buses used the kings statue bus stops as normal. Your final observation about the pavilion just proves you have a blinkered and negative stance. Think things through a bit![/p][/quote]Not actually correct. The X53 had to be split into two separate routes, Exeter-Weymouth and Weymouth-Poole. Buses heading towards Exeter only actually picked up at Debenhams, as did the 501 open top to Portland Bill, and the South West Coaches service to Bagwell, amongst others. Loadings on the 501 (which relies on being seen on the promenade for much of its trade) were decimated as a result. Simon N. Simon Nicholas

9:15pm Sat 17 Nov 12

212 dorset says...

This is a waste of column inches because it wont happen. Council will lose tens of thousands of pounds in parking revenue for all the spaces lost for this road closue and secondly we have a huge promenade and incredibly wide pavements for people to walk on. There is absolutely no requirement for road closures on Weymouth Esplanade.
This is a waste of column inches because it wont happen. Council will lose tens of thousands of pounds in parking revenue for all the spaces lost for this road closue and secondly we have a huge promenade and incredibly wide pavements for people to walk on. There is absolutely no requirement for road closures on Weymouth Esplanade. 212 dorset

9:41pm Sat 17 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

melcombe boy wrote:
Joe_Bloggs wrote:
This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ???

Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along.

What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again.
Condor will still be able to operate.
During the Olympic closure of the seafront buses used the kings statue bus stops as normal.
Your final observation about the pavilion just proves you have a blinkered and negative stance. Think things through a bit!
But you couldn't drive past the statue, all the way up to the pavilion. The pavilion would suffer if people couldn't get there. Also what if Condor does return to Weymouth, do you think the narrow custom house quay could take that volume of traffic if the esplanade was shut ? And what bout the additional costs ? Setting up barriers , then removing them at night, policing the closed off area etc. maybe it is You who are blinkered !
[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe_Bloggs[/bold] wrote: This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ??? Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along. What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again.[/p][/quote]Condor will still be able to operate. During the Olympic closure of the seafront buses used the kings statue bus stops as normal. Your final observation about the pavilion just proves you have a blinkered and negative stance. Think things through a bit![/p][/quote]But you couldn't drive past the statue, all the way up to the pavilion. The pavilion would suffer if people couldn't get there. Also what if Condor does return to Weymouth, do you think the narrow custom house quay could take that volume of traffic if the esplanade was shut ? And what bout the additional costs ? Setting up barriers , then removing them at night, policing the closed off area etc. maybe it is You who are blinkered ! I'mavoter

10:09pm Sat 17 Nov 12

annotator1 says...

I suppose the traffic to the Condor Ferry could be held from the park and ride ... ah! no it can't as it closes at night so returning ferry goers will have parking tickets and locked gates on their return.
There is no way out except drive down Commercial clogged Road and take a chance going around the one way system and probably getting lost.
Second and future thoughts ... leave it alone as it has worked since the Ceasaria days, why make more problems!
I suppose the traffic to the Condor Ferry could be held from the park and ride ... ah! no it can't as it closes at night so returning ferry goers will have parking tickets and locked gates on their return. There is no way out except drive down Commercial clogged Road and take a chance going around the one way system and probably getting lost. Second and future thoughts ... leave it alone as it has worked since the Ceasaria days, why make more problems! annotator1

10:52pm Sat 17 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

wykeregislad wrote:
This is a good move forward in the right direction, as a ambassador working every day during the Olympics on the seafront the longer it went on the better the feedback became, the busses still ran, condor would still operate in the summer, majority of there sailings are early am, and late returns, so disruption would be minimal, I couldn't see them moving to Portland because of the fees occurred.
The trade for seafront business would only benefit if people could sit out on the front, the reason it was slow during the first week was bad PR, and over priced accommodation.
All people I spoke to as a ambassador whilst on the seafront loved it,
This is definitely the way forward
No it isn't ! And if you check the Condor timetable you will see that many sailings go between 9 - 10am, and several return between 4pm - 6pm. People already sit outside the various bars & cafes along the seafront ! So the locals who pay their council tax don't count then ?
[quote][p][bold]wykeregislad[/bold] wrote: This is a good move forward in the right direction, as a ambassador working every day during the Olympics on the seafront the longer it went on the better the feedback became, the busses still ran, condor would still operate in the summer, majority of there sailings are early am, and late returns, so disruption would be minimal, I couldn't see them moving to Portland because of the fees occurred. The trade for seafront business would only benefit if people could sit out on the front, the reason it was slow during the first week was bad PR, and over priced accommodation. All people I spoke to as a ambassador whilst on the seafront loved it, This is definitely the way forward[/p][/quote]No it isn't ! And if you check the Condor timetable you will see that many sailings go between 9 - 10am, and several return between 4pm - 6pm. People already sit outside the various bars & cafes along the seafront ! So the locals who pay their council tax don't count then ? I'mavoter

8:44am Sun 18 Nov 12

wykeregislad says...

I'mavoter wrote:
wykeregislad wrote:
This is a good move forward in the right direction, as a ambassador working every day during the Olympics on the seafront the longer it went on the better the feedback became, the busses still ran, condor would still operate in the summer, majority of there sailings are early am, and late returns, so disruption would be minimal, I couldn't see them moving to Portland because of the fees occurred.
The trade for seafront business would only benefit if people could sit out on the front, the reason it was slow during the first week was bad PR, and over priced accommodation.
All people I spoke to as a ambassador whilst on the seafront loved it,
This is definitely the way forward
No it isn't ! And if you check the Condor timetable you will see that many sailings go between 9 - 10am, and several return between 4pm - 6pm. People already sit outside the various bars & cafes along the seafront ! So the locals who pay their council tax don't count then ?
I'm a local council tax payer thank you and sail on condor to see my sister who lives in jersey 8-10 times a year check your facts a majority of sailings to the CI leave Weymouth before 8 in the morning because of the vast tide difference in the islands , it's very rare they return in the afternoon during the high season, it's 9 pm onwards , also there was access for trade during the closure in the Olympics, and ask many of the bars on the seafront they had a better response from there clientele during the closure , did you actually go down or are you a armchair critic
[quote][p][bold]I'mavoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wykeregislad[/bold] wrote: This is a good move forward in the right direction, as a ambassador working every day during the Olympics on the seafront the longer it went on the better the feedback became, the busses still ran, condor would still operate in the summer, majority of there sailings are early am, and late returns, so disruption would be minimal, I couldn't see them moving to Portland because of the fees occurred. The trade for seafront business would only benefit if people could sit out on the front, the reason it was slow during the first week was bad PR, and over priced accommodation. All people I spoke to as a ambassador whilst on the seafront loved it, This is definitely the way forward[/p][/quote]No it isn't ! And if you check the Condor timetable you will see that many sailings go between 9 - 10am, and several return between 4pm - 6pm. People already sit outside the various bars & cafes along the seafront ! So the locals who pay their council tax don't count then ?[/p][/quote]I'm a local council tax payer thank you and sail on condor to see my sister who lives in jersey 8-10 times a year check your facts a majority of sailings to the CI leave Weymouth before 8 in the morning because of the vast tide difference in the islands , it's very rare they return in the afternoon during the high season, it's 9 pm onwards , also there was access for trade during the closure in the Olympics, and ask many of the bars on the seafront they had a better response from there clientele during the closure , did you actually go down or are you a armchair critic wykeregislad

12:14pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Peter6 says...

Will they allow disabled people to park in Park Street car park for free again ? That would make up for the loss of seafront parking it would cause but of course it would loose the council revenue from their over high parking charges.
Will they allow disabled people to park in Park Street car park for free again ? That would make up for the loss of seafront parking it would cause but of course it would loose the council revenue from their over high parking charges. Peter6

7:01pm Sun 18 Nov 12

xmissh says...

I hope this doesn't happen, it cost me an absolute fortune getting to work everyday just because of that little stretch of road being closed! It wouldnt be too bad if they made it so that you could right turn from the station into the park district so that you can get out by the college.
I hope this doesn't happen, it cost me an absolute fortune getting to work everyday just because of that little stretch of road being closed! It wouldnt be too bad if they made it so that you could right turn from the station into the park district so that you can get out by the college. xmissh

8:00pm Sun 18 Nov 12

bollywood says...

Just ring fence Weymouth and stop all traffic coming in which is the way things are going. People from outside of the area are not coming in and those that live here are definately shopping outside of the area. Weymouth is becoming a town full of charity, mobile phone and betting shops that does nothing to encourage people in, closing the esplande to traffic is a stupid idea.
Just ring fence Weymouth and stop all traffic coming in which is the way things are going. People from outside of the area are not coming in and those that live here are definately shopping outside of the area. Weymouth is becoming a town full of charity, mobile phone and betting shops that does nothing to encourage people in, closing the esplande to traffic is a stupid idea. bollywood

8:37pm Sun 18 Nov 12

wykeregislad says...

bollywood wrote:
Just ring fence Weymouth and stop all traffic coming in which is the way things are going. People from outside of the area are not coming in and those that live here are definately shopping outside of the area. Weymouth is becoming a town full of charity, mobile phone and betting shops that does nothing to encourage people in, closing the esplande to traffic is a stupid idea.
I'm afraid that's most towns in the uk going that way in reference to being full of charity, betting, and coffee shops because one the economic times and two the fact a majority of people online shop these days to get more competition , therefore Weymouth should do everything it can to make it more attractive , those two and half weeks certainly made it feel a lot more welcoming having it shut ,
It doesn't mean no access of course there will still have to be access and it will no doubt be certain times of the day, but this is a good positive move by our town and should be backed
[quote][p][bold]bollywood[/bold] wrote: Just ring fence Weymouth and stop all traffic coming in which is the way things are going. People from outside of the area are not coming in and those that live here are definately shopping outside of the area. Weymouth is becoming a town full of charity, mobile phone and betting shops that does nothing to encourage people in, closing the esplande to traffic is a stupid idea.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid that's most towns in the uk going that way in reference to being full of charity, betting, and coffee shops because one the economic times and two the fact a majority of people online shop these days to get more competition , therefore Weymouth should do everything it can to make it more attractive , those two and half weeks certainly made it feel a lot more welcoming having it shut , It doesn't mean no access of course there will still have to be access and it will no doubt be certain times of the day, but this is a good positive move by our town and should be backed wykeregislad

12:06pm Mon 19 Nov 12

paulst says...

I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan.
Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption.
You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking.
I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan. Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption. You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking. paulst

12:53pm Mon 19 Nov 12

boobooweymouth says...

paulst wrote:
I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan.
Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption.
You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking.
Totally agree - gets my support. So nice to be able to sit out and have some food & drinks without the noise and fumes.

Also, much more family friendly not to have to worry about small people getting squashed.
[quote][p][bold]paulst[/bold] wrote: I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan. Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption. You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking.[/p][/quote]Totally agree - gets my support. So nice to be able to sit out and have some food & drinks without the noise and fumes. Also, much more family friendly not to have to worry about small people getting squashed. boobooweymouth

12:57pm Mon 19 Nov 12

tarka says...

What a load of rubbish.
From the clock onwards Weymouth is a peninsular with only two roads that can provide access to the town. Take the esplanade out and you only have commercial road for vehicular access. One problem on commercial road and the town is gridlocked. Let’s drive the remaining retail outlets out of business and have a pedestrian ghost town. Life in Weymouth should not exclusively revolve around the holiday trade at the expense of local tax paying residents that bring income into the town 52 weeks a year.
What a load of rubbish. From the clock onwards Weymouth is a peninsular with only two roads that can provide access to the town. Take the esplanade out and you only have commercial road for vehicular access. One problem on commercial road and the town is gridlocked. Let’s drive the remaining retail outlets out of business and have a pedestrian ghost town. Life in Weymouth should not exclusively revolve around the holiday trade at the expense of local tax paying residents that bring income into the town 52 weeks a year. tarka

1:06pm Mon 19 Nov 12

scubadude says...

ksmain wrote:
cecilbdoomil wrote:
Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour?

Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?
I sure people will be really pleased with the extra 10 - 12 mile round trip, one they have negotiated their way up Rodwell first.
What moron would go over Rodwell to get to Portland? Vast majority of Condors users aren't from Weymouth and would come in on new road, over Granby bypass, across 5-ways, up lanehouse and through Wyke- you'd need to be farm animal stupid to drive into the town!
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cecilbdoomil[/bold] wrote: Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour? Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?[/p][/quote]I sure people will be really pleased with the extra 10 - 12 mile round trip, one they have negotiated their way up Rodwell first.[/p][/quote]What moron would go over Rodwell to get to Portland? Vast majority of Condors users aren't from Weymouth and would come in on new road, over Granby bypass, across 5-ways, up lanehouse and through Wyke- you'd need to be farm animal stupid to drive into the town! scubadude

1:23pm Mon 19 Nov 12

FooWoo says...

boobooweymouth wrote:
paulst wrote: I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan. Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption. You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking.
Totally agree - gets my support. So nice to be able to sit out and have some food & drinks without the noise and fumes. Also, much more family friendly not to have to worry about small people getting squashed.
Sounds good. Was very nice during the olympics.

Not sure how it will effect trade because surely slow moving (walking) people will bring more trade than someone driving past in a car.
[quote][p][bold]boobooweymouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paulst[/bold] wrote: I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan. Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption. You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking.[/p][/quote]Totally agree - gets my support. So nice to be able to sit out and have some food & drinks without the noise and fumes. Also, much more family friendly not to have to worry about small people getting squashed.[/p][/quote]Sounds good. Was very nice during the olympics. Not sure how it will effect trade because surely slow moving (walking) people will bring more trade than someone driving past in a car. FooWoo

3:50pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Foursite says...

Great Idea, do we have anyone savvy enough to propose a sustainable transport system like a tram. doubt it ?
Great Idea, do we have anyone savvy enough to propose a sustainable transport system like a tram. doubt it ? Foursite

4:37pm Mon 19 Nov 12

billy badger says...

Leave well alone ! I went to the seafront during the Olympics it was surreal not like the Weymouth I know.I thought the atmosphere was terrible and the town did not belong to us anymore.
Leave well alone ! I went to the seafront during the Olympics it was surreal not like the Weymouth I know.I thought the atmosphere was terrible and the town did not belong to us anymore. billy badger

8:41pm Mon 19 Nov 12

carlospicywiener says...

In the 30 odd years I've lived here, there has never been a problem. During the Olympics hardly anyone walked in the road when I was there, maybe because it feels odd or the fact that there's plenty of room on the Esplanade and pavements. As some people have said, what about the blue badge holders or the Guest houses and Hotels down that end of town. They will lose business when people realise they are restricted. Plus, what about deliveries to residents and businesses in that area. Some visitors like to drive along the front to check out whats going on first before they make a decision to go to the beach.
In the 30 odd years I've lived here, there has never been a problem. During the Olympics hardly anyone walked in the road when I was there, maybe because it feels odd or the fact that there's plenty of room on the Esplanade and pavements. As some people have said, what about the blue badge holders or the Guest houses and Hotels down that end of town. They will lose business when people realise they are restricted. Plus, what about deliveries to residents and businesses in that area. Some visitors like to drive along the front to check out whats going on first before they make a decision to go to the beach. carlospicywiener

8:45pm Mon 19 Nov 12

ksmain says...

scubadude wrote:
ksmain wrote:
cecilbdoomil wrote:
Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour?

Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?
I sure people will be really pleased with the extra 10 - 12 mile round trip, one they have negotiated their way up Rodwell first.
What moron would go over Rodwell to get to Portland? Vast majority of Condors users aren't from Weymouth and would come in on new road, over Granby bypass, across 5-ways, up lanehouse and through Wyke- you'd need to be farm animal stupid to drive into the town!
If you knew that way - it is hardly well signposted. So probably the morons who dont live locally.
[quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cecilbdoomil[/bold] wrote: Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour? Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?[/p][/quote]I sure people will be really pleased with the extra 10 - 12 mile round trip, one they have negotiated their way up Rodwell first.[/p][/quote]What moron would go over Rodwell to get to Portland? Vast majority of Condors users aren't from Weymouth and would come in on new road, over Granby bypass, across 5-ways, up lanehouse and through Wyke- you'd need to be farm animal stupid to drive into the town![/p][/quote]If you knew that way - it is hardly well signposted. So probably the morons who dont live locally. ksmain

9:05pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Crabber says...

melcombe boy wrote:
Joe_Bloggs wrote:
This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ???

Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along.

What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again.
Condor will still be able to operate.
During the Olympic closure of the seafront buses used the kings statue bus stops as normal.
Your final observation about the pavilion just proves you have a blinkered and negative stance. Think things through a bit!
Brilliant so if your coming down from the Midlands for 2 weeks on Jersey and your towing your 4 berth caravan how the donald duck are you going to get it on or behind the bus. Blinkered view better than being a bit thick. You need to think things through a lot idiot
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[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe_Bloggs[/bold] wrote: This is going to lose the Condor business from returning as a majority of their customers take cars and they wont be able to get to the ferry port ??? Also what a waste of money all the new bus shelters etc would be surely the seafront should be still availabe to buses and a pass system should be used to allow ferry users along. What about the pavillion car park is that going to be used by some white elephant that will go bust in a week again.[/p][/quote]Condor will still be able to operate. During the Olympic closure of the seafront buses used the kings statue bus stops as normal. Your final observation about the pavilion just proves you have a blinkered and negative stance. Think things through a bit![/p][/quote]Brilliant so if your coming down from the Midlands for 2 weeks on Jersey and your towing your 4 berth caravan how the donald duck are you going to get it on or behind the bus. Blinkered view better than being a bit thick. You need to think things through a lot idiot . Crabber

3:42am Tue 20 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

wykeregislad wrote:
I'mavoter wrote:
wykeregislad wrote:
This is a good move forward in the right direction, as a ambassador working every day during the Olympics on the seafront the longer it went on the better the feedback became, the busses still ran, condor would still operate in the summer, majority of there sailings are early am, and late returns, so disruption would be minimal, I couldn't see them moving to Portland because of the fees occurred.
The trade for seafront business would only benefit if people could sit out on the front, the reason it was slow during the first week was bad PR, and over priced accommodation.
All people I spoke to as a ambassador whilst on the seafront loved it,
This is definitely the way forward
No it isn't ! And if you check the Condor timetable you will see that many sailings go between 9 - 10am, and several return between 4pm - 6pm. People already sit outside the various bars & cafes along the seafront ! So the locals who pay their council tax don't count then ?
I'm a local council tax payer thank you and sail on condor to see my sister who lives in jersey 8-10 times a year check your facts a majority of sailings to the CI leave Weymouth before 8 in the morning because of the vast tide difference in the islands , it's very rare they return in the afternoon during the high season, it's 9 pm onwards , also there was access for trade during the closure in the Olympics, and ask many of the bars on the seafront they had a better response from there clientele during the closure , did you actually go down or are you a armchair critic
Firstly mister, No I'm not am armchair critic, so don't make rude assumptions!
Yes I did go down there, in fact I drice around there every day, mostly on business, so again Don't make assumptions !
And secondly I suggest you re-read the condor timetable. I didn't say all condor sailings, but when they last sailed from Weymouth, several sailings went between 9-10am and several returned between 4-6pm. You go 8-10 times a year from Weymouth ? when was the last time ? ha ha... and you've asked many of the bars on the seafron have you ? A regular visitor to them all ?
[quote][p][bold]wykeregislad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'mavoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wykeregislad[/bold] wrote: This is a good move forward in the right direction, as a ambassador working every day during the Olympics on the seafront the longer it went on the better the feedback became, the busses still ran, condor would still operate in the summer, majority of there sailings are early am, and late returns, so disruption would be minimal, I couldn't see them moving to Portland because of the fees occurred. The trade for seafront business would only benefit if people could sit out on the front, the reason it was slow during the first week was bad PR, and over priced accommodation. All people I spoke to as a ambassador whilst on the seafront loved it, This is definitely the way forward[/p][/quote]No it isn't ! And if you check the Condor timetable you will see that many sailings go between 9 - 10am, and several return between 4pm - 6pm. People already sit outside the various bars & cafes along the seafront ! So the locals who pay their council tax don't count then ?[/p][/quote]I'm a local council tax payer thank you and sail on condor to see my sister who lives in jersey 8-10 times a year check your facts a majority of sailings to the CI leave Weymouth before 8 in the morning because of the vast tide difference in the islands , it's very rare they return in the afternoon during the high season, it's 9 pm onwards , also there was access for trade during the closure in the Olympics, and ask many of the bars on the seafront they had a better response from there clientele during the closure , did you actually go down or are you a armchair critic[/p][/quote]Firstly mister, No I'm not am armchair critic, so don't make rude assumptions! Yes I did go down there, in fact I drice around there every day, mostly on business, so again Don't make assumptions ! And secondly I suggest you re-read the condor timetable. I didn't say all condor sailings, but when they last sailed from Weymouth, several sailings went between 9-10am and several returned between 4-6pm. You go 8-10 times a year from Weymouth ? when was the last time ? ha ha... and you've asked many of the bars on the seafron have you ? A regular visitor to them all ? I'mavoter

3:43am Tue 20 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

ksmain wrote:
melcombe boy wrote:
ksmain wrote:
This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion.

There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for.

From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it?

And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well?
" From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do"
Umm. Sorry I don't believe you. I live on the Seafront and in the Summer it is nearly impossible to find a space to park along the seafront during the day even with my paid for parking permit.
The parking arrangements for us seafront residents during the Olympics were brilliant.
Well I do. And I always find a spot, and if I am not able to go and do this then another town (either Dorchester or Yeovil as both me and my wife work there) will get my business.

We are talking of shutting this area to traffic for 7 - 8 weeks not just 2, and from what i saw of the Olympics it just didn't merit it. I can't see what the fuss is about as pedestrians are already perfectly catered for.

If it was such a good idea, why haven't other resorts adopted it, eg like Brighton, where the conjestion is much more serious than Weymouth?
Well Said mate .
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: This is another poor move that will drive occasional trade from the town centre and just cause more conjestion. There are already very wide pavements and a promenade and large section of the town which is already traffic free. So pedestrians are already perfectly well catered for. From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do. Guess I wont be doing that in the summer in future - and I wonder how many others will do likewise. So much for an Olympic Legacy - it hasnt done anything for the town yet has it? And what about access to the ferry or are we keen to drive them from Weymouth as well?[/p][/quote]" From my own perspective I go into town by car to get the occasional item and I use the promenade to gain access by car for what I do" Umm. Sorry I don't believe you. I live on the Seafront and in the Summer it is nearly impossible to find a space to park along the seafront during the day even with my paid for parking permit. The parking arrangements for us seafront residents during the Olympics were brilliant.[/p][/quote]Well I do. And I always find a spot, and if I am not able to go and do this then another town (either Dorchester or Yeovil as both me and my wife work there) will get my business. We are talking of shutting this area to traffic for 7 - 8 weeks not just 2, and from what i saw of the Olympics it just didn't merit it. I can't see what the fuss is about as pedestrians are already perfectly catered for. If it was such a good idea, why haven't other resorts adopted it, eg like Brighton, where the conjestion is much more serious than Weymouth?[/p][/quote]Well Said mate . I'mavoter

3:46am Tue 20 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

paulst wrote:
I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan.
Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption.
You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking.
what a blinkered view.
[quote][p][bold]paulst[/bold] wrote: I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan. Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption. You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking.[/p][/quote]what a blinkered view. I'mavoter

3:49am Tue 20 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

boobooweymouth wrote:
paulst wrote:
I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan.
Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption.
You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking.
Totally agree - gets my support. So nice to be able to sit out and have some food & drinks without the noise and fumes.

Also, much more family friendly not to have to worry about small people getting squashed.
Squashed ?
[quote][p][bold]boobooweymouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paulst[/bold] wrote: I think this is a great idea. When they did this last summer, it felt much more pleasant, even dare I say it, cosmopolitan. Surely closing a 400m stretch of road past the Kings Statue for a few months every summer is going to cause only minor disruption. You would hope the council is going factor in access to Condor in their thinking.[/p][/quote]Totally agree - gets my support. So nice to be able to sit out and have some food & drinks without the noise and fumes. Also, much more family friendly not to have to worry about small people getting squashed.[/p][/quote]Squashed ? I'mavoter

3:50am Tue 20 Nov 12

I'mavoter says...

tarka wrote:
What a load of rubbish.
From the clock onwards Weymouth is a peninsular with only two roads that can provide access to the town. Take the esplanade out and you only have commercial road for vehicular access. One problem on commercial road and the town is gridlocked. Let’s drive the remaining retail outlets out of business and have a pedestrian ghost town. Life in Weymouth should not exclusively revolve around the holiday trade at the expense of local tax paying residents that bring income into the town 52 weeks a year.
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]tarka[/bold] wrote: What a load of rubbish. From the clock onwards Weymouth is a peninsular with only two roads that can provide access to the town. Take the esplanade out and you only have commercial road for vehicular access. One problem on commercial road and the town is gridlocked. Let’s drive the remaining retail outlets out of business and have a pedestrian ghost town. Life in Weymouth should not exclusively revolve around the holiday trade at the expense of local tax paying residents that bring income into the town 52 weeks a year.[/p][/quote]Well said. I'mavoter

4:03pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Bob Goulding says...

cecilbdoomil wrote:
Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour?

Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?
Can't believe I'm saying it but I am inclined to agree with you (except the bit about public art)
[quote][p][bold]cecilbdoomil[/bold] wrote: Move Condor to the nicer and newer Portland Harbour? Portland would welcome the business after all the robbing Weymouth has done from it in the past and seeing as they seem to want to turn Weymouth into a dead zone for business full of Public art?[/p][/quote]Can't believe I'm saying it but I am inclined to agree with you (except the bit about public art) Bob Goulding

5:32pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Merrittpr says...

Closing the roads may have benefited some traders but according to the Echo there were lots that suffered. I really can't see the point in closing the road, like many have already said, the prom is wide and the pavements have been widened to. Town seemed to cope ok when the roads were reopened and visitor numbers were high after the Olympics. It's great that so many people cycled into town and felt safe in doing so. Why not mark out a decent cycle route that can be followed into and out of town with some added bike parks. Now that's what I call forward thinking but do you think there is any chance it will be implemented. I'm not holding my breath....
Closing the roads may have benefited some traders but according to the Echo there were lots that suffered. I really can't see the point in closing the road, like many have already said, the prom is wide and the pavements have been widened to. Town seemed to cope ok when the roads were reopened and visitor numbers were high after the Olympics. It's great that so many people cycled into town and felt safe in doing so. Why not mark out a decent cycle route that can be followed into and out of town with some added bike parks. Now that's what I call forward thinking but do you think there is any chance it will be implemented. I'm not holding my breath.... Merrittpr

6:24pm Tue 20 Nov 12

rjimmer says...

Weymouth closed for the summer! Good news for the Dorchester shops. I never went into town for the two Olympic weeks. Now it will be trips to Dorchester all summer.
Weymouth closed for the summer! Good news for the Dorchester shops. I never went into town for the two Olympic weeks. Now it will be trips to Dorchester all summer. rjimmer

6:45pm Tue 20 Nov 12

rjimmer says...

How will tall vehicles get under the town bridge to get the the quay. Oh yeah! Turn left by the multi-storey and then down St Thomas St, left opposite the Crown.....Is this Smug Williams' idea by any chance?
How will tall vehicles get under the town bridge to get the the quay. Oh yeah! Turn left by the multi-storey and then down St Thomas St, left opposite the Crown.....Is this Smug Williams' idea by any chance? rjimmer

7:41pm Tue 20 Nov 12

tictac19700 says...

another legacy, just like those silly green lights
another legacy, just like those silly green lights tictac19700

12:39pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Throckape says...

Foursite wrote:
Great Idea, do we have anyone savvy enough to propose a sustainable transport system like a tram. doubt it ?
Private car or Motorbike is the only option from Weymouth to Portland after about 10:30. Unless you like cycling (a lot) or forking out for a Taxi.

Weymouths transport vision only seems to encompass bikes and public transport.

I suppose the visionarys will be tucked up in bed before dark.

Weymouth you need to attract people with independant transport, for that you need a flowing road system or all you will attract is tumbleweed...
[quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: Great Idea, do we have anyone savvy enough to propose a sustainable transport system like a tram. doubt it ?[/p][/quote]Private car or Motorbike is the only option from Weymouth to Portland after about 10:30. Unless you like cycling (a lot) or forking out for a Taxi. Weymouths transport vision only seems to encompass bikes and public transport. I suppose the visionarys will be tucked up in bed before dark. Weymouth you need to attract people with independant transport, for that you need a flowing road system or all you will attract is tumbleweed... Throckape

3:12pm Wed 21 Nov 12

not too distant says...

Should have been done years ago.. Not a new idea, but still a very good one.
Should have been done years ago.. Not a new idea, but still a very good one. not too distant

6:32pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Phaedrus says...

As long as the closure is only from the clock to Alexandra Gardens this idea has potential, could bring more people into town, the councils however must do everything possible to ensure it works well for everyone. Better signage for instance. Closing the other part of the Esplanade to the bandstand would seriously inconvenience those who reasonably want to come to town along Preston Beach Road. This was a major part of the problem during the Olympics, the relief road was the only way into town so people chose to go elsewhere.
As long as the closure is only from the clock to Alexandra Gardens this idea has potential, could bring more people into town, the councils however must do everything possible to ensure it works well for everyone. Better signage for instance. Closing the other part of the Esplanade to the bandstand would seriously inconvenience those who reasonably want to come to town along Preston Beach Road. This was a major part of the problem during the Olympics, the relief road was the only way into town so people chose to go elsewhere. Phaedrus

1:03am Fri 23 Nov 12

simon26r says...

I have the answer. Why don't we just make weymouth one way between 9-5 one way in and no way out. Surely people would have to stay and spend some money then....
I have the answer. Why don't we just make weymouth one way between 9-5 one way in and no way out. Surely people would have to stay and spend some money then.... simon26r

1:13am Fri 23 Nov 12

Isosceles says...

simon26r says 'Why don't we just make weymouth one way between 9-5 one way in and no way out'
This will, of course, include all those working on North Quay but they should not expect to get paid overtime (;o)

I think the whole original idea is rubbish, especially when you consider the setting-up costs of erecting signs and the daily erection and taking down of barriers, staffing costs to 'police' traffic, etc.
Keep the streets for what they were designed and built for - the free movement of vehicles and pedestrians.
simon26r says 'Why don't we just make weymouth one way between 9-5 one way in and no way out' This will, of course, include all those working on North Quay but they should not expect to get paid overtime (;o) I think the whole original idea is rubbish, especially when you consider the setting-up costs of erecting signs and the daily erection and taking down of barriers, staffing costs to 'police' traffic, etc. Keep the streets for what they were designed and built for - the free movement of vehicles and pedestrians. Isosceles

9:03am Fri 23 Nov 12

Under35andout says...

dorchester has better shops anyway hope nandos is open by the summer ,
dorchester has better shops anyway hope nandos is open by the summer , Under35andout

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