First bus service slated in county council report

CONTROVERSIAL: The harbour crossroads outside Asda in Weymouth CONTROVERSIAL: The harbour crossroads outside Asda in Weymouth

BUS services have been slated in a report examining the controversial Weymouth Transport Package one year on.

The package (WTP) promised a ‘legacy’ with measures to reduce congestion and provide better public transport.

While it has helped to drive down queues, the WTP evaluation report says the town’s main bus provider First has done little to make things better for passengers.

Findings, seen by the Echo before the report’s general release, are revealed amid concerns about a reduction in bus services.

Dorset County Council spent £15.5million transforming the roads for the Olympics and beyond, thanks to a government grant.

Main WTP works, which caused a year of highways havoc, saw roundabouts replaced with traffic lights. There were also refurbished bus stops with real-time information, but a traffic signal bus priority system isn’t operating yet.

The report written by Dorset County Council highways officials for councillors and the Department for Transport said it was built on time and within budget, has helped to improve average journey times and reliability by a quarter, and upped air quality in congested corridors.

Pedestrian safety has also improved.

There is slightly less traffic than predicted using the roads overall which may be due to the economic downturn.

However, targets to deliver newer buses and get more of them to run on time have not been met – and the transport interchange promised for Weymouth railway station hasn’t materialised.

Research shows bus punctuality was ‘slightly worse’ in 2012 compared to 2008 with between 29 per cent and 54 per cent of them more than five minutes late. Passenger surveys show little change in people’s perceptions.

The report says funding to improve the station forecourt is not yet available and the target for eight buses an hour re-routed to serve the station hasn’t been met.

Objectives are dependent on ‘promised investment and co-operation from the bus company or private sector development of the interchange.’ Co-operation from First has been ‘disappointing’ and the hoped-for investment hasn’t been forthcoming, the report says.

DCC Cabinet member for highways Peter Finney said it was a ‘very promising report’ on the WTP – but reiterated the need for the bus company to do its bit.

He said: “We can’t move forward with the passenger transport element until bus companies provide the promised investment.”

First was not available for comment.

In an earlier statement it said it ran some services via the station during the Olympics but as most of its services are designed to meet the needs of locals, buses take passengers to where they want to go, principally the shopping area and seafront.

Retired John Brooks of Preston, where the First evening service was cut recently, said: “There was all this hype about spending millions on the roads but in my view it did nothing for locals.

“There was no additional bus services for the Olympics as far as I could see and the service now is pathetic.”

It’s easier as fewer people are using the town’s roads’

Taxi driver Eddie Hawkins isn’t convinced by the changes and said the county council had ‘dreamed up its own conclusion about the transport package to justify its own mistakes’.

He believes it’s easier to get around because fewer people are on the roads, either because they are taking diversions to avoid the ‘confusing’ harbour crossroads near Asda, or steering clear of Weymouth altogether.

Borough council transport spokesman Christine James added: “Council officers have been pulling their hair out trying to deal with First.

“The buses aren’t reliable as they should be. The company has a lot to answer for.”

Coun James said she was happy with junction changes – but said some drivers had not been using lanes properly.

President of the Weymouth and Portland Chamber of Commerce Anna-Maria Geare said the WTP works in 2011 had caused ‘unprecedented’ disruption.

She said people were now benefitting from a new system but added that some members were concerned about the ‘awkward’ harbour crossroads which they felt was putting people off coming into town. And there’s concern about the lack of park and ride advertising.

Meanwhile, county councillor for Portland Tim Munro said First buses had ‘failed to deliver’.

He said modern buses transported park and ride passengers for the Olympics but First had not done anything since the Games, as promised.

Main aims included modernising network

THE Weymouth Transport Package for the 2012 Games was a series of long-term public transport improvements providing a ‘transport legacy’ after the Games.

The scheme was given funding approval by the Department for Transport in March 2010 and work started on the junctions in June. The aims were:

  • Ease the impact of congestion, particularly for buses, in the town centre and towards Portland with a focus on King Street and Boot Hill
  • Improve the quality of the public transport by using newer buses and also improving the bus stops n Modernise the bus network by introducing real time passenger information (RTPI) on buses and at stops
  • Make it easier for people to use the bus and train by developing an interchange at the railway station
  • Improve air quality and pedestrian safety

Comments(12)

rodin says...
10:26am Mon 21 Jan 13

I trust the full report addresses Condor's demand for changes to the clock tower lights to improve traffic flow for vehicles disembarking.

VaguelyPurple says...
10:47am Mon 21 Jan 13

Classic tactics of politicians; come up with something that's almost exactly 180 degrees the opposite to the truth) ("it has helped to improve average journey times and reliability by a quarter"? !) and deflect criticism onto somebody else. Bus companies always make a handy scapegoat. It shows very, very vividly just how isolated from reality these Politicians are. Do they really believe that nonsense, let alone expect anyone else to?

Simon Nicholas says...
10:49am Mon 21 Jan 13

Ironically, this comes in the week after First transferred seven of Weymouth depot`s low floor double decks to Plymouth, in the main replaced by older step entrance deckers from Weston.

VaguelyPurple says...
10:52am Mon 21 Jan 13

As far as the business of a "Transport Interchange" at the Station is concerned, it's a good job they haven't. Transport Planners are always obsessed with "Integrated Public Transport", i.e. insisting that Buses go to railway stations, regardless of whether there's actually any significant demand for it. I should think a very small percentage of people who get Buses would want to connect with Trains, compared with the number who just want to go to the shops, but if the Planners had their way they'd insist that everyone be inconvenienced by backtracking up & down King Street two or three times (and waiting at Intelligent Traffic Lights two or three times) to go to the station for... probably no one to get on.

Mr_Blue_Sky says...
11:01am Mon 21 Jan 13

Would be nice if even the "live" bus times were actually "live"....

The few times I have bothered to catch the awful bus service on the number 2 route, I have watched the "live" timings count down, no bus ever turns up, and then it starts counting down to the next scheduled bus arrival time.

How much money did they waste on that garbage?

VaguelyPurple says...
11:12am Mon 21 Jan 13

No, actually I find them quite useful. Of course, if one just wants to be satirical (and that post could hardly be called wishing to be objective, could it, "the few times I have bothered to catch the awful bus service"), one isn't going to worry about trying to be fair, is one.


Anyway, good to see that the Council's tactics are working admirably; deflect people's attention from the lies and sheer absurdity of their report, which they wrote themselves, please note, by deflecting people onto that favourite topic, Moaning About the Buses.

bollywood says...
11:33am Mon 21 Jan 13

Did these people catch a bus during the Olympics? None of them were on time and there was no excuse about the traffic because there wasn't any. How they can say the transport package reduces journey times is beyond me unless you live up Dorchester road.
Bet Condor passengers won't be happy about having to go up King Street over to Westerhall and then come back on the jammed Esplanade. Who designed that system?

Joe_Bloggs says...
12:27pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Typical how can the council do a report on the work it has done ?
This should be done by independent people.
Why would First want to send buses to connect to Stagecoach trains after all First want to get in on trains not help a competitor.
As for the live bus times that has to be in for joke of the century and we are only 12 years in. I have had numerous times of watching times count down in minutes which on the information sheet says it is a tracked bus only for the time to suddenly jump back up by 5 minutes or just vanish. The other times are just a copy of the timetable and a complete waste of time. Certain services like the number 3 does not appear on a Saturday at all on the screens and the best gaff by the council is the big town maps that show where to catch your bus has service 8 at stop D2 but the times for these turn up on D1 and so do the buses with D2 been used for service 210 which when I have been waiting for a 3 or 8 the 210 pulled in at D3 with all the number 1 buses and then drove past the stop that had its departure time and so did the main sign by Debenhams say D2 not D3. Also for how much they are used I am amazed that these signs are not at the town bridge stops.
Just as a footnote the other night I went to the Turks Head and came out at 11 to catch the last X53 back into town, now the time was counting down 12 mins etc luckily I stayed at the stop as although they indicated the bus was running 10 mins late when the sign got down to 7 mins the bus appeared. How good is this system, not worth all the money and praise the council will no doubt give it in its own report.

stench says...
12:51pm Mon 21 Jan 13

VaguelyPurple wrote:
Classic tactics of politicians; come up with something that's almost exactly 180 degrees the opposite to the truth) ("it has helped to improve average journey times and reliability by a quarter"? !) and deflect criticism onto somebody else. Bus companies always make a handy scapegoat. It shows very, very vividly just how isolated from reality these Politicians are. Do they really believe that nonsense, let alone expect anyone else to?
nail on the head!

Weston7 says...
6:07pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Is Dorset County Council going to put the full report online?
Average journey times on the main roads within Weymouth (excluding the Relief Road0 have increased.

SouthWestBuses says...
6:09pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Yes indeed as stated by several of the writers above this report is a typical council pack of lies to try and justify it own stupidity, total disregard of what local residents want and criminal waste of public money.
Taking the so called 'live' or 'real-time' bus stops - as pointed out above this system is a complete waste of money and a total shambles for the following reasons - (1) Many instances happen of vehicles that are not fitted with the equipement being used and therefore not appearing on the screens - this problem will continue to occure as other vehicles are transfered to Weymouth. (2) The announcements on board the buses are stupid in the extreme with mistakes in location (or even direction of travel on the 31 route) and totally wrong pronunciation due to the way the 'voice' is generated. (3) If a bus is running late for whatever reason the time will count down on the screen and at the time the bus should be there it will drop off the screen to leave the passenger with no idea as to when the bus might actually arrive. This useless system is and always will be nothing more than a total waste of money.
As to a transport interchange at the station in my experience as a bus driver very few local passengers actually want to go to the station rather than Debenhams of the Kings Statue - but then the council does not listen to what we want so they want to force passengers to go somewhere they dont want to. Incidently regarding the comment about First taking passengers to Stagecoach trains - this is rather irelevent as First operate some of the trains from Weymouth.
Another very valid point to raise here is that of the comments about older buses. Weymouth depot is not the biggest earner in the First organisation. Perhaps messrs county council if you paid the bus company a decent amount for carrying pass holders then the bus company might be able to justify investing in sending newer buses to Weymouth depot - but isnt this somewhere we've been before !!.
Last point regarding the stopping place used by the 210 - are you really surprised that it does not pick up at the stop showing the information but goes into the stop where there might be more passengers - afterall its operated (for a short while longer) by SouthWest Coaches !!

Yellowcave says...
10:35pm Mon 21 Jan 13

The above illumination on including the relief road helps explain the average journey time decrease in the report on the Weymouth Transport Fiasco (WTF), however I assume this does not include going northbound out of Weymouth during the rush hours!
I spend all day driving around Weymouth and my average journey time has significantly increased, as has my mileage due to the fact we can no longer turn left or right where we need to and have to work out complicated detours.
These increases are despite the fact that traffic levels are ridiculously down on the pre WTF levels.
If we had the current Weymouth traffic levels pre WTF, we would probably not have noticed any significant queues even during the rush hours.
Pre WTF, the Esplanade was grid locked whenever a ferry came in albeit for a short while, however we still get this grid lock occasionally without a ferry.
Ref the Public transport Interchange, if there is a desire to achieve interaction and provide a cohesive, coherent public transport service, why has the National Express stop been moved from the statue, where many buses terminate, to the Pavilion, where how many local buses stop?
I noticed that the buses arriving late was cited as a bus company problem, but from what I can gather it is down to the new transport system and bad traffic flows along Rodwell Road. Buses have to maintain their route even if there is a 20 minute delay in front, they are not allowed to deviate. This is often down to the traffic lights, which can only be described as intelligent when compared to the people who came up with this option for the roundabout replacement scheme. Westham junction lights only stay green for 3 normal sized vehicles when traffic is heavy,or one bus/lorry, but longer if traffic is lighter. Heavy traffic from Newstead road gets a green light but can't move as the pedestrian lights in Westwey road are Red. Cars sit for minutes at the Chickerell Rd junction with no traffic in sight only for a vehicle to appear at the top of the hill and the lights change as it goes through them. I measured red light only time on a trip from Asda to the Railway station and clocked up 5 minutes. The journey itself took longer as I did not include moving time and it was not a particularly busy day.
I can't see how cars idling at traffic lights all day long produce less air pollution than free moving traffic used to.
As the whole WTF was put forward as a public transport improvement package, which it has spectacularly failed to deliver, can we have our money back under the sale of goods act please?

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