Traders to move into Weymouth's Brewers Quay

Dorset Echo: Traders to move into Weymouth's Brewers Quay Traders to move into Weymouth's Brewers Quay

BREWERS Quay will reopen by Easter with a restaurant, museums and an antiques emporium.

Life is set to be breathed back into the popular Weymouth tourist attraction with plans for 50 traders selling antiques, collectibles and vintage items from a 5,000 square foot shopping street.

Negotiations are under way between owners Brewers Quay Investments LLP and tenants, who want to bring an Italian restaurant, a military museum, a cafe and offices to the harbourside site.

The former Victorian brewery has been closed since February 2011.

The reopening follows on from the success of pop-up bar Salt and shops in the building last year, which were open during the Olympic sailing events.

Paul Cartlidge, joint manager of the project with Mike Ellery, said the aim is to provide 'a unique shopping experience for tourists and locals alike'.

Alastair Ross, a partner at Brewers Quay Investments LLP, said: “It has always been our aim to do what we can to bring the Hope Square retail frontage back to life, and to maintain support for the museum whilst we consider the building's future and grasp the financial implications and commercial realities of a project of this magnitude.”

The partners are in discussion with Weymouth Museum Trust, and have pledged to offer it long-term security after its current lease expires in 2014, stating that it remains an 'integral part' of the development.

Brewers Quay was closed in 2011 to begin an ambitious renovation project worth £15million, which originally included a hotel, flats, a wet weather tourist attraction, shops and restaurants.

It was hoped the work would be completed in time for the Olympic sailing events, but the deadline was pushed back.

Weymouth and Portland Chamber of Commerce president Anna-Maria Geare said the reopening announcement is ‘fantastic news’ for the town.

She added: “I take courage from the fact that people wish to invest in the area. The town has been pushing for a long time to see the redevelopment of Brewers Quay.

“It complements our town centre, it’s a complementary shopping experience that beings more people into the town.

“People used to come in coaches to go to Brewers Quay and would walk around the harbour and go over the town bridge and into town.

“This to me is a welcome opportunity to get vibrancy back into the town centre.”

Mrs Geare welcomed the new jobs for the town.

She said: “It’s nice to have more jobs and the creation of periphery jobs.”

Councillor John Birtwistle, who represents the Weymouth harbour area, said it has been a long wait to see Brewers Quay reopen.

He said: “I’m delighted something is happening there at last.

“I would welcome something like this that’s going to brighten up Hope Square.

“I see people still arriving to go shopping there and realising it has shut down.”

He said he hoped an Italian restaurant would attract diners to that part of town.

“We’re fairly well stocked with restaurants by the harbour but a restaurant there would probably draw in more people.”

Shoppers welcome news of attraction’s rebirth

Carly Morrissey, 32, from Portland, said: “It used to be really good over there, with all the crafty shops, and it was a real shame when it closed.

“It is a bit dead that side of town so it will be nice to be able to go and have a wander round again.”

Linzi Haddon, 28, from Weymouth, said: “There's nothing there at the moment and I don't think people from out of town know it's there.

“But I think with more shops there, more tourists will go over there, which will be good for other businesses.”

Alan Wilkinson, 54, from Sherborne, said: “That always seems to be the real part of Weymouth that side of the harbour, so it will be nice to see it thriving again.

“I think having some shops and a restaurant there will draw more people over to it.”

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12:15pm Sun 17 Feb 13

PHonnor says...

So basically the plan is to replace what was already there a few years ago, probably at inflated rents? The way this has all been "handled" is an absolute shower of you know what.
So basically the plan is to replace what was already there a few years ago, probably at inflated rents? The way this has all been "handled" is an absolute shower of you know what. PHonnor
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12:30pm Sun 17 Feb 13

weylad says...

Well put PHonnor, the place was not broken so why did the Muppets try to fix it?
Lots of small and interesting bussinesses were making a living and supplying a need to locals and visitors alike, so why not leave well enough alone?
Well put PHonnor, the place was not broken so why did the Muppets try to fix it? Lots of small and interesting bussinesses were making a living and supplying a need to locals and visitors alike, so why not leave well enough alone? weylad
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12:39pm Sun 17 Feb 13

portlandresident says...

And with proposals to close the Weymouth Tourist Information Centre, there won't be anyone around to send visitors or locals there. Amazing!
And with proposals to close the Weymouth Tourist Information Centre, there won't be anyone around to send visitors or locals there. Amazing! portlandresident
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1:07pm Sun 17 Feb 13

annotator1 says...

Wht did it take so long to see that Brewers Quay was a tourist magnet and supported a hive of local business.
All I can seem to exclaim is Why did it close in the first place?!
Because of the Olympics and the shops would have got in the way of the Coe lot and their profits, is not good enough even if it is true!
Wht did it take so long to see that Brewers Quay was a tourist magnet and supported a hive of local business. All I can seem to exclaim is Why did it close in the first place?! Because of the Olympics and the shops would have got in the way of the Coe lot and their profits, is not good enough even if it is true! annotator1
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1:07pm Sun 17 Feb 13

annotator1 says...

Why did it take so long to see that Brewers Quay was a tourist magnet and supported a hive of local business.
All I can seem to exclaim is Why did it close in the first place?!
Because of the Olympics and the shops would have got in the way of the Coe lot and their profits, is not good enough even if it is true!
Why did it take so long to see that Brewers Quay was a tourist magnet and supported a hive of local business. All I can seem to exclaim is Why did it close in the first place?! Because of the Olympics and the shops would have got in the way of the Coe lot and their profits, is not good enough even if it is true! annotator1
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1:11pm Sun 17 Feb 13

guapisimoboy says...

It´s a terrific site but a military museum?
It´s a terrific site but a military museum? guapisimoboy
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1:57pm Sun 17 Feb 13

annotator1 says...

guapisimoboy wrote:
It´s a terrific site but a military museum?
And why not ... next to the Nothe with the Old Town Hall just up the road. Full of history eager to get out.
[quote][p][bold]guapisimoboy[/bold] wrote: It´s a terrific site but a military museum?[/p][/quote]And why not ... next to the Nothe with the Old Town Hall just up the road. Full of history eager to get out. annotator1
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2:09pm Sun 17 Feb 13

bobby1966 says...

feel sorry for those that were kicked out in the first place

maybe the tourist information center could also be relocated their.
feel sorry for those that were kicked out in the first place maybe the tourist information center could also be relocated their. bobby1966
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2:22pm Sun 17 Feb 13

portlandresident says...

It would be great to house a TIC in there, but that just takes the TIC further and further away from all the bus stops, transport connections,and town centre shops (what's left of them).
It would be great to house a TIC in there, but that just takes the TIC further and further away from all the bus stops, transport connections,and town centre shops (what's left of them). portlandresident
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4:28pm Sun 17 Feb 13

high68 says...

good news and I hope it reopens soon. It's been such a waste for last 2-3 years.

But what a farce that after all that time it would appear the best thing is virtually the same as before as this is a winning formula. Shops, museum, cafe .... now that sounds familiar
good news and I hope it reopens soon. It's been such a waste for last 2-3 years. But what a farce that after all that time it would appear the best thing is virtually the same as before as this is a winning formula. Shops, museum, cafe .... now that sounds familiar high68
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5:15pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Simon Nicholas says...

It can still only be a temporary solution, as the building needs a considerable amount of work done to it. This however will have to wait for the full redevlopment.

Simon N.
It can still only be a temporary solution, as the building needs a considerable amount of work done to it. This however will have to wait for the full redevlopment. Simon N. Simon Nicholas
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5:21pm Sun 17 Feb 13

hiraeth says...

This is very good news. It's a great building that should be put back to some use. Looking forward to going in there and seeing and using the new facilities.
This is very good news. It's a great building that should be put back to some use. Looking forward to going in there and seeing and using the new facilities. hiraeth
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6:28pm Sun 17 Feb 13

bobby1966 says...

talking of the TIC why cant they discuss using the old shirt shack place ideal place /location near everything with access for disabled already in place and large premises
talking of the TIC why cant they discuss using the old shirt shack place ideal place /location near everything with access for disabled already in place and large premises bobby1966
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6:36pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Antique89 says...

Very happy that this is happening, a very welcome attraction to Weymouth. Well done!
Very happy that this is happening, a very welcome attraction to Weymouth. Well done! Antique89
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6:38pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Hunterjohn says...

Great news about Brewers Quay it was a terrific draw to get visitors into that part of town. As far as the TIC is concerned there an empty premise on the prom which would be an ideal venue - oh silly me that was where it was a couple of years ago!!
Great news about Brewers Quay it was a terrific draw to get visitors into that part of town. As far as the TIC is concerned there an empty premise on the prom which would be an ideal venue - oh silly me that was where it was a couple of years ago!! Hunterjohn
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7:10pm Sun 17 Feb 13

portlandresident says...

Anywhere the TIC can be re-located is better than not having one at all. But, it's great that Brewers Quay is going to open the doors again. It's been far too long.
Anywhere the TIC can be re-located is better than not having one at all. But, it's great that Brewers Quay is going to open the doors again. It's been far too long. portlandresident
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8:45pm Sun 17 Feb 13

littlemissdorch says...

Great to hear some good news about Weymouth, good luck to everyone opening new ventures.
Great to hear some good news about Weymouth, good luck to everyone opening new ventures. littlemissdorch
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10:48pm Sun 17 Feb 13

gameon says...

portlandresident wrote:
It would be great to house a TIC in there, but that just takes the TIC further and further away from all the bus stops, transport connections,and town centre shops (what's left of them).
The best thing for the TIC is put it back where it was the most obvious choice in the centre of everything or is that to much for council to realise
[quote][p][bold]portlandresident[/bold] wrote: It would be great to house a TIC in there, but that just takes the TIC further and further away from all the bus stops, transport connections,and town centre shops (what's left of them).[/p][/quote]The best thing for the TIC is put it back where it was the most obvious choice in the centre of everything or is that to much for council to realise gameon
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11:40pm Sun 17 Feb 13

fastjet says...

Having just come back from Cornwall it was a pleasure to be able to park FREE almost every where between the months Oct -Mar.Wouldnt this help all the visitors and locals breath some life into our dying town. I hardly saw 1 shop closed or boarded up. I hope It all works out.
Having just come back from Cornwall it was a pleasure to be able to park FREE almost every where between the months Oct -Mar.Wouldnt this help all the visitors and locals breath some life into our dying town. I hardly saw 1 shop closed or boarded up. I hope It all works out. fastjet
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9:15am Mon 18 Feb 13

Jello Biafra says...

Multimillion pound overhaul?

If i've told you once, i've told you a million times - Stop exaggerating!
Multimillion pound overhaul? If i've told you once, i've told you a million times - Stop exaggerating! Jello Biafra
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9:57am Mon 18 Feb 13

annotator1 says...

About time too!
About time too! annotator1
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4:32pm Mon 18 Feb 13

-Wingl- says...

Glad something is happening. I hope the investors can hold on - rates vs low revenues. But it all feels a little too late. Playing second fiddle to Dorch? Quality shopping, Quality shops, Quality experience... introducing Quality?
Glad something is happening. I hope the investors can hold on - rates vs low revenues. But it all feels a little too late. Playing second fiddle to Dorch? Quality shopping, Quality shops, Quality experience... introducing Quality? -Wingl-
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5:47pm Mon 18 Feb 13

TenBobDylanThomasHardy says...

Wingl, there's Good Quality and bad Quality...just a thought.
Wingl, there's Good Quality and bad Quality...just a thought. TenBobDylanThomasHardy
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7:17pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Simon Nicholas says...

This is fantastic news, but I suspect this so called multi million pound makeover will amount to little more than a lick of paint and reopening of the ground floor shops and first floor museum. They won`t be able to do much more by Easter thats for sure!
I also hope that they can fill it, and than the traders there will offer something different, and not just an indoor version of a glorified tat market.
Still great to see that it will be open again at least until the long awaited redevlopment finally happens - I understand that revised plans for this are now in the consultation stage.
This is fantastic news, but I suspect this so called multi million pound makeover will amount to little more than a lick of paint and reopening of the ground floor shops and first floor museum. They won`t be able to do much more by Easter thats for sure! I also hope that they can fill it, and than the traders there will offer something different, and not just an indoor version of a glorified tat market. Still great to see that it will be open again at least until the long awaited redevlopment finally happens - I understand that revised plans for this are now in the consultation stage. Simon Nicholas
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7:49pm Mon 18 Feb 13

high68 says...

-Wingl- wrote:
Glad something is happening. I hope the investors can hold on - rates vs low revenues. But it all feels a little too late. Playing second fiddle to Dorch? Quality shopping, Quality shops, Quality experience... introducing Quality?
second fiddle to Dorch !!! True, Dorch is getting the fantastic Brewery Square, but i was walking into town on Saturday in glorious sunshine and turned the corner by the Old Rooms, after having a lovely lunch at the Red Lion, and turned to the person with me and said 'whatever Dorchesters getting, they don't have this' ..meaning the lovely harbour.

it's time us Weymouthians started the fight back and promoted the positives :-)
[quote][p][bold]-Wingl-[/bold] wrote: Glad something is happening. I hope the investors can hold on - rates vs low revenues. But it all feels a little too late. Playing second fiddle to Dorch? Quality shopping, Quality shops, Quality experience... introducing Quality?[/p][/quote]second fiddle to Dorch !!! True, Dorch is getting the fantastic Brewery Square, but i was walking into town on Saturday in glorious sunshine and turned the corner by the Old Rooms, after having a lovely lunch at the Red Lion, and turned to the person with me and said 'whatever Dorchesters getting, they don't have this' ..meaning the lovely harbour. it's time us Weymouthians started the fight back and promoted the positives :-) high68
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8:13pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Get a grip says...

high68 wrote:
-Wingl- wrote:
Glad something is happening. I hope the investors can hold on - rates vs low revenues. But it all feels a little too late. Playing second fiddle to Dorch? Quality shopping, Quality shops, Quality experience... introducing Quality?
second fiddle to Dorch !!! True, Dorch is getting the fantastic Brewery Square, but i was walking into town on Saturday in glorious sunshine and turned the corner by the Old Rooms, after having a lovely lunch at the Red Lion, and turned to the person with me and said 'whatever Dorchesters getting, they don't have this' ..meaning the lovely harbour.

it's time us Weymouthians started the fight back and promoted the positives :-)
Good point well made.
[quote][p][bold]high68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]-Wingl-[/bold] wrote: Glad something is happening. I hope the investors can hold on - rates vs low revenues. But it all feels a little too late. Playing second fiddle to Dorch? Quality shopping, Quality shops, Quality experience... introducing Quality?[/p][/quote]second fiddle to Dorch !!! True, Dorch is getting the fantastic Brewery Square, but i was walking into town on Saturday in glorious sunshine and turned the corner by the Old Rooms, after having a lovely lunch at the Red Lion, and turned to the person with me and said 'whatever Dorchesters getting, they don't have this' ..meaning the lovely harbour. it's time us Weymouthians started the fight back and promoted the positives :-)[/p][/quote]Good point well made. Get a grip
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6:54am Tue 19 Feb 13

PHonnor says...

TenBobDylanThomasHar
dy
wrote:
Wingl, there's Good Quality and bad Quality...just a thought.
one word, Nandos.
[quote][p][bold]TenBobDylanThomasHar dy[/bold] wrote: Wingl, there's Good Quality and bad Quality...just a thought.[/p][/quote]one word, Nandos. PHonnor
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9:56am Tue 19 Feb 13

shaun blondz says...

Welcome to Weymouth all the new traders in Brewers Quay
And do not listen to all the moaners
The Town is changing and slowly very slowly a few quality businesses are making their mark . we have problems just like any town.
But we have the setting the people and the ideas to overcome them and the more businesses arriving in town the easier that job will be.
Of course one has to ask the question
What is happening to the people who mismanaged the whole Brewers Quay debacle ? lets hope they are not directing other ventures and new ways forward in the town !!
Welcome to Weymouth all the new traders in Brewers Quay And do not listen to all the moaners The Town is changing and slowly very slowly a few quality businesses are making their mark . we have problems just like any town. But we have the setting the people and the ideas to overcome them and the more businesses arriving in town the easier that job will be. Of course one has to ask the question What is happening to the people who mismanaged the whole Brewers Quay debacle ? lets hope they are not directing other ventures and new ways forward in the town !! shaun blondz
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10:22am Tue 19 Feb 13

stench says...

shaun blondz wrote:
Welcome to Weymouth all the new traders in Brewers Quay And do not listen to all the moaners The Town is changing and slowly very slowly a few quality businesses are making their mark . we have problems just like any town. But we have the setting the people and the ideas to overcome them and the more businesses arriving in town the easier that job will be. Of course one has to ask the question What is happening to the people who mismanaged the whole Brewers Quay debacle ? lets hope they are not directing other ventures and new ways forward in the town !!
get your head out from your a r s e!
[quote][p][bold]shaun blondz[/bold] wrote: Welcome to Weymouth all the new traders in Brewers Quay And do not listen to all the moaners The Town is changing and slowly very slowly a few quality businesses are making their mark . we have problems just like any town. But we have the setting the people and the ideas to overcome them and the more businesses arriving in town the easier that job will be. Of course one has to ask the question What is happening to the people who mismanaged the whole Brewers Quay debacle ? lets hope they are not directing other ventures and new ways forward in the town !![/p][/quote]get your head out from your a r s e! stench
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10:44am Tue 19 Feb 13

shaun blondz says...

Thank you Stench how very nice and pleasant of you to put such an eloquent
argument and opposing view to mine ....
It is good to see the great british tradition of courage is being held up by posters like yourself who hide rather bravely behind a keyboard . Your parents must be so proud of you..
Thank you Stench how very nice and pleasant of you to put such an eloquent argument and opposing view to mine .... It is good to see the great british tradition of courage is being held up by posters like yourself who hide rather bravely behind a keyboard . Your parents must be so proud of you.. shaun blondz
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10:59am Tue 19 Feb 13

Simon 1965 says...

Shaun Blondz, I applaud your latest posting regaring the latest post from Stench.

I was in the City of Newport (South Wales) on Saturday - if he really wants to see what a derelict centre looks like, he really should go and visit - even Marks & Spencers have left there.

As for Brewers Quay though, the project was not mismanaged, unless you blaim the owners (Brewers Quay LLP) for not forseeing the financial meltdown.

Simon N.
Shaun Blondz, I applaud your latest posting regaring the latest post from Stench. I was in the City of Newport (South Wales) on Saturday - if he really wants to see what a derelict centre looks like, he really should go and visit - even Marks & Spencers have left there. As for Brewers Quay though, the project was not mismanaged, unless you blaim the owners (Brewers Quay LLP) for not forseeing the financial meltdown. Simon N. Simon 1965
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11:24am Tue 19 Feb 13

stench says...

shaun blondz wrote:
Thank you Stench how very nice and pleasant of you to put such an eloquent argument and opposing view to mine .... It is good to see the great british tradition of courage is being held up by posters like yourself who hide rather bravely behind a keyboard . Your parents must be so proud of you..
you're welcome, i do try ;)

But I'm sure you can tell I disagree? Weymouth has fallen into pieces. Other towns havent had opportunites like we have, such as the Olympics (and all the potential it could have brought).

We have large factories closing down, but the council pat themselves on the back when businesses like Screwfix come to town. supplying not many jobs, whilst chasing out small businesss like Eurofasteners.

The town deserves little credit for the state it's in, and many from the council deserve a good slap with from a wet, stinky & cold fish!

And Simon, sadly I have experianced Newport. 2 hours to wait between for my passport was a long 2 hours...
[quote][p][bold]shaun blondz[/bold] wrote: Thank you Stench how very nice and pleasant of you to put such an eloquent argument and opposing view to mine .... It is good to see the great british tradition of courage is being held up by posters like yourself who hide rather bravely behind a keyboard . Your parents must be so proud of you..[/p][/quote]you're welcome, i do try ;) But I'm sure you can tell I disagree? Weymouth has fallen into pieces. Other towns havent had opportunites like we have, such as the Olympics (and all the potential it could have brought). We have large factories closing down, but the council pat themselves on the back when businesses like Screwfix come to town. supplying not many jobs, whilst chasing out small businesss like Eurofasteners. The town deserves little credit for the state it's in, and many from the council deserve a good slap with from a wet, stinky & cold fish! And Simon, sadly I have experianced Newport. 2 hours to wait between for my passport was a long 2 hours... stench
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12:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13

wey_mouth says...

Simon 1965 wrote:
Shaun Blondz, I applaud your latest posting regaring the latest post from Stench.

I was in the City of Newport (South Wales) on Saturday - if he really wants to see what a derelict centre looks like, he really should go and visit - even Marks & Spencers have left there.

As for Brewers Quay though, the project was not mismanaged, unless you blaim the owners (Brewers Quay LLP) for not forseeing the financial meltdown.

Simon N.
It was mis-managed from the moment they bought the building!

And so now they are back tracking after making 100 people redundant and leaving the buliding to rot for 2 years...

Greed not the finacial meltdown has been their downfall!

Good luck to the new traders i have a feeling they are going to need it..... as if the building didnt work before with the same set up how is it going to work now??
[quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: Shaun Blondz, I applaud your latest posting regaring the latest post from Stench. I was in the City of Newport (South Wales) on Saturday - if he really wants to see what a derelict centre looks like, he really should go and visit - even Marks & Spencers have left there. As for Brewers Quay though, the project was not mismanaged, unless you blaim the owners (Brewers Quay LLP) for not forseeing the financial meltdown. Simon N.[/p][/quote]It was mis-managed from the moment they bought the building! And so now they are back tracking after making 100 people redundant and leaving the buliding to rot for 2 years... Greed not the finacial meltdown has been their downfall! Good luck to the new traders i have a feeling they are going to need it..... as if the building didnt work before with the same set up how is it going to work now?? wey_mouth
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2:30pm Tue 19 Feb 13

shaun blondz says...

stench wrote:
shaun blondz wrote:
Thank you Stench how very nice and pleasant of you to put such an eloquent argument and opposing view to mine .... It is good to see the great british tradition of courage is being held up by posters like yourself who hide rather bravely behind a keyboard . Your parents must be so proud of you..
you're welcome, i do try ;)

But I'm sure you can tell I disagree? Weymouth has fallen into pieces. Other towns havent had opportunites like we have, such as the Olympics (and all the potential it could have brought).

We have large factories closing down, but the council pat themselves on the back when businesses like Screwfix come to town. supplying not many jobs, whilst chasing out small businesss like Eurofasteners.

The town deserves little credit for the state it's in, and many from the council deserve a good slap with from a wet, stinky & cold fish!

And Simon, sadly I have experianced Newport. 2 hours to wait between for my passport was a long 2 hours...
Stench
Weymouth has some very serious problems the main one being incomptant council and weak self serving councillors
We have suffered years of take take take with no looking ahead and planning but As a trader in Town I do see small green shoots of recovery now i accept my business is not an impulse spend type shop . But there are some businesses doing well in Town
I agree with you regarding the small minded shouting regarding new part time jobs that will be at the expense of good full time ones but that is not a Weymouth alone problem that is a national problem
But sadly while the only reports are negative then the shopper or visitor who is thinking of visiting our town may not visit. And while the fools on Westwey Rd continue to milk parking revenue to make up for their own incompetent budgeting who can blame them ?
The town will flourish eventually despite the council not because of it
[quote][p][bold]stench[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun blondz[/bold] wrote: Thank you Stench how very nice and pleasant of you to put such an eloquent argument and opposing view to mine .... It is good to see the great british tradition of courage is being held up by posters like yourself who hide rather bravely behind a keyboard . Your parents must be so proud of you..[/p][/quote]you're welcome, i do try ;) But I'm sure you can tell I disagree? Weymouth has fallen into pieces. Other towns havent had opportunites like we have, such as the Olympics (and all the potential it could have brought). We have large factories closing down, but the council pat themselves on the back when businesses like Screwfix come to town. supplying not many jobs, whilst chasing out small businesss like Eurofasteners. The town deserves little credit for the state it's in, and many from the council deserve a good slap with from a wet, stinky & cold fish! And Simon, sadly I have experianced Newport. 2 hours to wait between for my passport was a long 2 hours...[/p][/quote]Stench Weymouth has some very serious problems the main one being incomptant council and weak self serving councillors We have suffered years of take take take with no looking ahead and planning but As a trader in Town I do see small green shoots of recovery now i accept my business is not an impulse spend type shop . But there are some businesses doing well in Town I agree with you regarding the small minded shouting regarding new part time jobs that will be at the expense of good full time ones but that is not a Weymouth alone problem that is a national problem But sadly while the only reports are negative then the shopper or visitor who is thinking of visiting our town may not visit. And while the fools on Westwey Rd continue to milk parking revenue to make up for their own incompetent budgeting who can blame them ? The town will flourish eventually despite the council not because of it shaun blondz
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3:34pm Tue 19 Feb 13

stench says...

shaun blondz wrote:
stench wrote:
shaun blondz wrote: Thank you Stench how very nice and pleasant of you to put such an eloquent argument and opposing view to mine .... It is good to see the great british tradition of courage is being held up by posters like yourself who hide rather bravely behind a keyboard . Your parents must be so proud of you..
you're welcome, i do try ;) But I'm sure you can tell I disagree? Weymouth has fallen into pieces. Other towns havent had opportunites like we have, such as the Olympics (and all the potential it could have brought). We have large factories closing down, but the council pat themselves on the back when businesses like Screwfix come to town. supplying not many jobs, whilst chasing out small businesss like Eurofasteners. The town deserves little credit for the state it's in, and many from the council deserve a good slap with from a wet, stinky & cold fish! And Simon, sadly I have experianced Newport. 2 hours to wait between for my passport was a long 2 hours...
Stench Weymouth has some very serious problems the main one being incomptant council and weak self serving councillors We have suffered years of take take take with no looking ahead and planning but As a trader in Town I do see small green shoots of recovery now i accept my business is not an impulse spend type shop . But there are some businesses doing well in Town I agree with you regarding the small minded shouting regarding new part time jobs that will be at the expense of good full time ones but that is not a Weymouth alone problem that is a national problem But sadly while the only reports are negative then the shopper or visitor who is thinking of visiting our town may not visit. And while the fools on Westwey Rd continue to milk parking revenue to make up for their own incompetent budgeting who can blame them ? The town will flourish eventually despite the council not because of it
Can't argue against that.

And I assume you own Blondz hairdressers? So I assume you provide skilled jobs, all year round :)

The problem with manufacturing, is half the local area is the sea. So I get why places like Dek struggle to survive in these times.

I thought, with the Olympics, we were trying to promote W&P as a sailing town. But it seems we've forgotten that, and I see the council refuse to support sailing events (financially), whilst other councils are.

Look at the state of the harbour! No excuse!

People underestimate our potential as a holiday destination. although the jobs this create are often unskilled and seasonal only.

I've met so many over the years that visit and love the town. Things that we take for granted, are the things some people visit for:
- harbour & fishing industry
- proper fish&chips
- Nothe Fort (for the views, history)
- A sandy beach
- Chesil Beach
- seal life centre
- Portland Bill

I love Weymouth, but I wont agree with any praise towards those running it. Need a big chief to come in and clean out the deadwood! In the public sector, employment legislation should be relaxed so that deadwood can be removed without the risk of being taking to court (but a system that cant be abused to remove anyone i.e. the one who stands up against the system that the manager doesnt like).

We have council staff that preach about the impact of domestic abuse, but then punches her husband in the face... These people dont deserve a wage, paid by taxpayers.

And back the original point of yours, I do not feel many potential visitors will come on here to look at reviews. I wonder what the town looks like on TripAdvisor?
[quote][p][bold]shaun blondz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stench[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun blondz[/bold] wrote: Thank you Stench how very nice and pleasant of you to put such an eloquent argument and opposing view to mine .... It is good to see the great british tradition of courage is being held up by posters like yourself who hide rather bravely behind a keyboard . Your parents must be so proud of you..[/p][/quote]you're welcome, i do try ;) But I'm sure you can tell I disagree? Weymouth has fallen into pieces. Other towns havent had opportunites like we have, such as the Olympics (and all the potential it could have brought). We have large factories closing down, but the council pat themselves on the back when businesses like Screwfix come to town. supplying not many jobs, whilst chasing out small businesss like Eurofasteners. The town deserves little credit for the state it's in, and many from the council deserve a good slap with from a wet, stinky & cold fish! And Simon, sadly I have experianced Newport. 2 hours to wait between for my passport was a long 2 hours...[/p][/quote]Stench Weymouth has some very serious problems the main one being incomptant council and weak self serving councillors We have suffered years of take take take with no looking ahead and planning but As a trader in Town I do see small green shoots of recovery now i accept my business is not an impulse spend type shop . But there are some businesses doing well in Town I agree with you regarding the small minded shouting regarding new part time jobs that will be at the expense of good full time ones but that is not a Weymouth alone problem that is a national problem But sadly while the only reports are negative then the shopper or visitor who is thinking of visiting our town may not visit. And while the fools on Westwey Rd continue to milk parking revenue to make up for their own incompetent budgeting who can blame them ? The town will flourish eventually despite the council not because of it[/p][/quote]Can't argue against that. And I assume you own Blondz hairdressers? So I assume you provide skilled jobs, all year round :) The problem with manufacturing, is half the local area is the sea. So I get why places like Dek struggle to survive in these times. I thought, with the Olympics, we were trying to promote W&P as a sailing town. But it seems we've forgotten that, and I see the council refuse to support sailing events (financially), whilst other councils are. Look at the state of the harbour! No excuse! People underestimate our potential as a holiday destination. although the jobs this create are often unskilled and seasonal only. I've met so many over the years that visit and love the town. Things that we take for granted, are the things some people visit for: - harbour & fishing industry - proper fish&chips - Nothe Fort (for the views, history) - A sandy beach - Chesil Beach - seal life centre - Portland Bill I love Weymouth, but I wont agree with any praise towards those running it. Need a big chief to come in and clean out the deadwood! In the public sector, employment legislation should be relaxed so that deadwood can be removed without the risk of being taking to court (but a system that cant be abused to remove anyone i.e. the one who stands up against the system that the manager doesnt like). We have council staff that preach about the impact of domestic abuse, but then punches her husband in the face... These people dont deserve a wage, paid by taxpayers. And back the original point of yours, I do not feel many potential visitors will come on here to look at reviews. I wonder what the town looks like on TripAdvisor? stench
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4:42pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Is it me or is everything rubbish? says...

Find a town that is booming.

You will struggle.

This is due to a number of things, but internet shopping, supermarkets and a general change in shopping habits all contribute to this.

I am sure that people have been having discussions of this nature for hundreds of years.

What about the horseless carriage? This new fangled television? They will never last...
Find a town that is booming. You will struggle. This is due to a number of things, but internet shopping, supermarkets and a general change in shopping habits all contribute to this. I am sure that people have been having discussions of this nature for hundreds of years. What about the horseless carriage? This new fangled television? They will never last... Is it me or is everything rubbish?
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5:20pm Tue 19 Feb 13

TenBobDylanThomasHardy says...

PHonnor, my Portuguese is not good (in fact it's non-existent). Does 'Nandos' mean Good or Bad quality? Thanks.
PHonnor, my Portuguese is not good (in fact it's non-existent). Does 'Nandos' mean Good or Bad quality? Thanks. TenBobDylanThomasHardy
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5:36pm Tue 19 Feb 13

stench says...

Is it me or is everything rubbish? wrote:
Find a town that is booming. You will struggle. This is due to a number of things, but internet shopping, supermarkets and a general change in shopping habits all contribute to this. I am sure that people have been having discussions of this nature for hundreds of years. What about the horseless carriage? This new fangled television? They will never last...
went off a tangent there didnt you? Horse & Carrage? ha!

It wasnt that long ago high streets were booming...

Yes, times have changed. But that doesnt mean keep shops empty. Find a better use! Shops havent closed becuase there's no money, they closed cos they were dated i.e. Woolworths, Blockbusters. When i go into a town, it's usually for food or entertainment, not to buy clothes, CDs etc...
[quote][p][bold]Is it me or is everything rubbish?[/bold] wrote: Find a town that is booming. You will struggle. This is due to a number of things, but internet shopping, supermarkets and a general change in shopping habits all contribute to this. I am sure that people have been having discussions of this nature for hundreds of years. What about the horseless carriage? This new fangled television? They will never last...[/p][/quote]went off a tangent there didnt you? Horse & Carrage? ha! It wasnt that long ago high streets were booming... Yes, times have changed. But that doesnt mean keep shops empty. Find a better use! Shops havent closed becuase there's no money, they closed cos they were dated i.e. Woolworths, Blockbusters. When i go into a town, it's usually for food or entertainment, not to buy clothes, CDs etc... stench
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5:39pm Tue 19 Feb 13

stench says...

It's the 21st Century, time to get lean!

And we should use the current waekness of the pound to our advantage. Let's get back to being know as Great Britain, a country you turn to for all your manufacturing needs!
It's the 21st Century, time to get lean! And we should use the current waekness of the pound to our advantage. Let's get back to being know as Great Britain, a country you turn to for all your manufacturing needs! stench
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10:34pm Tue 19 Feb 13

EtaoinShrdlu says...

I've just had a marvellous idea . . . why not turn the whole lot into a brewery? They could turn out such vile beer that they would need to have their own hospital. But maybe this has been done before??
I've just had a marvellous idea . . . why not turn the whole lot into a brewery? They could turn out such vile beer that they would need to have their own hospital. But maybe this has been done before?? EtaoinShrdlu
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6:17am Wed 20 Feb 13

JamesYoung says...

stench wrote:
It's the 21st Century, time to get lean!

And we should use the current waekness of the pound to our advantage. Let's get back to being know as Great Britain, a country you turn to for all your manufacturing needs!
Spot on. For years we've been told by successive governments that we can't afford a manufacturing industry because of our high labour costs. Tell that to Germany. Or Norway.
Indirectly that's also been a contributor to the house price bubble. Nearly 96% of all UK lending goes to homeowners, while businesses find it tough to borrow. Why? Because when a business goes bust, a company these days, operating from leased premises and with little plant with any resale value, has nothing to repossess. Homeowners represented a safer bet. The sooner we get back to manufacturing and the sooner we start growing our own food, the better. Unfortunately neither can happen until house prices fall.
[quote][p][bold]stench[/bold] wrote: It's the 21st Century, time to get lean! And we should use the current waekness of the pound to our advantage. Let's get back to being know as Great Britain, a country you turn to for all your manufacturing needs![/p][/quote]Spot on. For years we've been told by successive governments that we can't afford a manufacturing industry because of our high labour costs. Tell that to Germany. Or Norway. Indirectly that's also been a contributor to the house price bubble. Nearly 96% of all UK lending goes to homeowners, while businesses find it tough to borrow. Why? Because when a business goes bust, a company these days, operating from leased premises and with little plant with any resale value, has nothing to repossess. Homeowners represented a safer bet. The sooner we get back to manufacturing and the sooner we start growing our own food, the better. Unfortunately neither can happen until house prices fall. JamesYoung
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6:26am Wed 20 Feb 13

JamesYoung says...

stench wrote:
It's the 21st Century, time to get lean!

And we should use the current waekness of the pound to our advantage. Let's get back to being know as Great Britain, a country you turn to for all your manufacturing needs!
Oh and as an utterly irrelevant aside: the "great" in Great Britain distinguishes us from little Britain, rather than being a recognition of greatness. Little Britain used to belong to the British. It's now known as Brittany.
(And even more irrelevant, next to Little Britain sits Normandy. It's called Normandy because it was given to the Northmen (Vikings) by a French king in an attempt at appeasement. The Norse warrior who received it was called Rollo. His great great grandson became William the Conqueror).
[quote][p][bold]stench[/bold] wrote: It's the 21st Century, time to get lean! And we should use the current waekness of the pound to our advantage. Let's get back to being know as Great Britain, a country you turn to for all your manufacturing needs![/p][/quote]Oh and as an utterly irrelevant aside: the "great" in Great Britain distinguishes us from little Britain, rather than being a recognition of greatness. Little Britain used to belong to the British. It's now known as Brittany. (And even more irrelevant, next to Little Britain sits Normandy. It's called Normandy because it was given to the Northmen (Vikings) by a French king in an attempt at appeasement. The Norse warrior who received it was called Rollo. His great great grandson became William the Conqueror). JamesYoung
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10:25am Wed 20 Feb 13

stench says...

JamesYoung wrote:
stench wrote: It's the 21st Century, time to get lean! And we should use the current waekness of the pound to our advantage. Let's get back to being know as Great Britain, a country you turn to for all your manufacturing needs!
Oh and as an utterly irrelevant aside: the "great" in Great Britain distinguishes us from little Britain, rather than being a recognition of greatness. Little Britain used to belong to the British. It's now known as Brittany. (And even more irrelevant, next to Little Britain sits Normandy. It's called Normandy because it was given to the Northmen (Vikings) by a French king in an attempt at appeasement. The Norse warrior who received it was called Rollo. His great great grandson became William the Conqueror).
I won't lie and say I knew that... ;)

But i'm glad we agree on something :)
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stench[/bold] wrote: It's the 21st Century, time to get lean! And we should use the current waekness of the pound to our advantage. Let's get back to being know as Great Britain, a country you turn to for all your manufacturing needs![/p][/quote]Oh and as an utterly irrelevant aside: the "great" in Great Britain distinguishes us from little Britain, rather than being a recognition of greatness. Little Britain used to belong to the British. It's now known as Brittany. (And even more irrelevant, next to Little Britain sits Normandy. It's called Normandy because it was given to the Northmen (Vikings) by a French king in an attempt at appeasement. The Norse warrior who received it was called Rollo. His great great grandson became William the Conqueror).[/p][/quote]I won't lie and say I knew that... ;) But i'm glad we agree on something :) stench
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3:39pm Wed 20 Feb 13

ajsmith99 says...

Great news - was majorly disappointed when Brewers Quay closed a couple of years back. I only just did some major expansion on the Wikipedia article for Brewers Quay so will have to update it soon.
Great news - was majorly disappointed when Brewers Quay closed a couple of years back. I only just did some major expansion on the Wikipedia article for Brewers Quay so will have to update it soon. ajsmith99
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5:21pm Wed 20 Feb 13

melpear says...

For once I agree with the Weymouth Whingers that the Brewers Quay is returning it's original format.
As a regular visitor to the town I have noticed that since it closed something seemed to be missing on that side of the harbour.
What I cannot understand is how businesses can return without a considerable amount of money being spent on the fabric of the building & how this can be achieved within a month, perhaps I am too much of a pessimist.
This could be a make or break year for Weymouth as it gets back to normality after the Olympics as I know a lot of the tour operators missed it from their brochures last year.
For once I agree with the Weymouth Whingers that the Brewers Quay is returning it's original format. As a regular visitor to the town I have noticed that since it closed something seemed to be missing on that side of the harbour. What I cannot understand is how businesses can return without a considerable amount of money being spent on the fabric of the building & how this can be achieved within a month, perhaps I am too much of a pessimist. This could be a make or break year for Weymouth as it gets back to normality after the Olympics as I know a lot of the tour operators missed it from their brochures last year. melpear
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8:16am Fri 22 Feb 13

dontbuyit says...

The rents are high at Brewers Quay. Around 50% more than equivalent space in Dorchester.
The rents are high at Brewers Quay. Around 50% more than equivalent space in Dorchester. dontbuyit
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1:28pm Fri 22 Feb 13

-Wingl- says...

Get a grip wrote:
high68 wrote:
-Wingl- wrote:
Glad something is happening. I hope the investors can hold on - rates vs low revenues. But it all feels a little too late. Playing second fiddle to Dorch? Quality shopping, Quality shops, Quality experience... introducing Quality?
second fiddle to Dorch !!! True, Dorch is getting the fantastic Brewery Square, but i was walking into town on Saturday in glorious sunshine and turned the corner by the Old Rooms, after having a lovely lunch at the Red Lion, and turned to the person with me and said 'whatever Dorchesters getting, they don't have this' ..meaning the lovely harbour.

it's time us Weymouthians started the fight back and promoted the positives :-)
Good point well made.
All fair points. I hope you're correct. Time will tell. But who will notice? I guess if you go back through history, Weymouth has increased in it's 'natural' beauty to date? No, it hasn't.
[quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]high68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]-Wingl-[/bold] wrote: Glad something is happening. I hope the investors can hold on - rates vs low revenues. But it all feels a little too late. Playing second fiddle to Dorch? Quality shopping, Quality shops, Quality experience... introducing Quality?[/p][/quote]second fiddle to Dorch !!! True, Dorch is getting the fantastic Brewery Square, but i was walking into town on Saturday in glorious sunshine and turned the corner by the Old Rooms, after having a lovely lunch at the Red Lion, and turned to the person with me and said 'whatever Dorchesters getting, they don't have this' ..meaning the lovely harbour. it's time us Weymouthians started the fight back and promoted the positives :-)[/p][/quote]Good point well made.[/p][/quote]All fair points. I hope you're correct. Time will tell. But who will notice? I guess if you go back through history, Weymouth has increased in it's 'natural' beauty to date? No, it hasn't. -Wingl-
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3:56pm Fri 22 Feb 13

melpear says...

I have not visited Dorchester for a couple of years but last time I walked down the main street it was beginning to look a little run down.
I am a regular visitor to Derby where they have a shiny new shopping centre but nearly all the shops outside have closed or been downgraded to discount shops, hope this does not happen in Dorchester.
With regard to Weymouth there is the possibility that it could regenerate as a niche shopping centre, especially if the Brewers Quay development takes off.
I remember visiting Bridport about ten years ago & thought it was on the way out but it has now been voted as one of the best small towns for shopping in the UK, there is always hope, but the Weymouth Wingers need to be put down first & rally round the town, they can always leave, the grass is always greener.
I have not visited Dorchester for a couple of years but last time I walked down the main street it was beginning to look a little run down. I am a regular visitor to Derby where they have a shiny new shopping centre but nearly all the shops outside have closed or been downgraded to discount shops, hope this does not happen in Dorchester. With regard to Weymouth there is the possibility that it could regenerate as a niche shopping centre, especially if the Brewers Quay development takes off. I remember visiting Bridport about ten years ago & thought it was on the way out but it has now been voted as one of the best small towns for shopping in the UK, there is always hope, but the Weymouth Wingers need to be put down first & rally round the town, they can always leave, the grass is always greener. melpear
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