LIVE UPDATES: Crunch pavilion and budget meeting tonight

Updated 9:13am Friday 22nd February 2013 in News By Martin Lea

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  • The crunch meeting about Weymouth Pavilion is being held tonight. It's the full meeting when the borough council will consider its 2013 to 2014 budget - including the future of the Pavilion. The proposal is to tender it out to the community to run but anything could happen. Also, up for discussion are proposals to dispose of the Guidlhall and TIC as well as plans to cut the CCTV budget. Reporter Martin Lea is at the meeting in the Pavilion Ocean Room and sending live updates.

9:13am

9:39pm

THE council has handed over responsibility to the community - probably a group led by Phil Say.

Our snap poll here came actually out with 82 per cent in favour of bulldozing the Pavilion.

Councillors will debate other budget issues into the night - including CCTV, Guildhall and TIC.

Read the main Pavilion story herehttp://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/localnews/10245073.Councillors_give_go_ahead_for_community_take_over_of_Weymouth_Pavilion/

 

9:07pm

PAVILION RESULT: Decision to close in May and start a tender process to hand over to community backed unanimously.

8:56pm

8:43pm Thu 21 Feb 13

gurfy says

Delaying the closure of the Pavilion is costing the taxpayer some serious money, not far shy of £60,000 per month. Jane McKell suggestion would cost £700,000 and Ray Banham delaying until September is a £410k hit to the residents pockets.

8:56pm

8:41pm Thu 21 Feb 13

sparkleeye says

JamesYoung wrote:
Mick Burt doesnt seem to get the idea of business plans. If a business stuck to plans that clearly weren't working it would be bankrupt.
So the 5000 people need to stump up about £150 each.
Otherwise, demolish it.
Agreed. It is time to say goodbye and Move on. If the Arty minority want to play housey with it , let them finance it themselves in competition with and prospective developers.. They have had a couple of decades of living off everyone's dime.


5000 people to help? So where are the 5000 at the meeting?

8:52pm

Banham's amendment to keep it open until September has been lost.

They are now debating an amendment from Coun Ian Roebuck which calls for the council to speed up process of handing it over to community with smaller gap of closure.

NB: for those of you not used to council meetings - they don't always move quickly. It's not a football match.

8:41pm

Have your say on whether you think the Pavilion should be saved or knocked down. See our vote below. It's just for tonight - just to see what the feeling is out there.

8:38pm

8:23pm

7:55pm Thu 21 Feb 13

JonInDorset says

Demolition would cost at least £3million. It's not a cost effective option. Hand it over and let the community run it, ASAP.

7:59pm Thu 21 Feb 13

jameswill says

joinindorset, they would soon claw back £3million selling on the land.

8:22pm

11 amendments to Pavilion proposal now being debated. Cllr Ray Banham calls for Pavilion to stay open until Sept so it can be taken over as a going concern

8:19pm

Labour councillors and supporters demonstrated their opposition to budget cuts before the meeting:

7:21pm Thu 21 Feb 13

gurfy says

Martin Lea needs a talking to, one update in 20 minutes is poor.

7:26pm Thu 21 Feb 13

jameswill says

perhaps jane mckell and mick burt should pay themselvs to keep the pavillion open, im a tax payer and am fed up with wasting tax money going nowhere

8:15pm

CRUNCH: Meeting at the Pavilion

8:10pm

Councillors have agreed to discuss the Pavilion first in budget

7:58pm

Moving onto budget item after 45 mins of speeches from public

7:49pm

TIC staff member Mike Deadman makes plea to keep TIC open

7:47pm

Phil Say urges cllrs to give the community a chance to run it

7:35pm

Cathy Page-Nash from Friends of the Pavilion says she has 5,000 people who want to help

7:25pm

Hon Alderman Peter Rendall asks for a smooth transition between Pav closure and group taking it over.so Pav not closed all summer

7:20pm

Move onto public half hour. Resident Mick Burt says demolishing Pav would be departure from local plan and says it shouls remain open for two years until Pav business plan runs its course

7:14pm

Meeting starts with petition from Jane McKell urging council to delay decision on pav for one year to allow time to get proposals in.

7:00pm

Don't forget you can leave your comments at the bottom of this live update.

6:59pm

About 100 members of the public have packed into the Ocean Room to hear the debate.

6:59pm

There's been a demo by the Labour party against the budget cuts before the meeting.

Comments(16)

gurfy says...
7:21pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Martin Lea needs a talking to, one update in 20 minutes is poor.

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jameswill says...
7:26pm Thu 21 Feb 13

perhaps jane mckell and mick burt should pay themselvs to keep the pavillion open, im a tax payer and am fed up with wasting tax money going nowhere

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jameswill says...
7:26pm Thu 21 Feb 13

perhaps jane mckell and mick burt should pay themselvs to keep the pavillion open, im a tax payer and am fed up with wasting tax money going nowhere

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gurfy says...
7:36pm Thu 21 Feb 13

"7:25pm

Hon Alderman Peter Rendall asks for a smooth transition between Pav closure and group taking it over.so Pav not closed all summer"

Has the entire gathering at the Ocean Room been sat there contemplating this for the past 10 minutes?

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JamesYoung says...
7:38pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Mick Burt doesnt seem to get the idea of business plans. If a business stuck to plans that clearly weren't working it would be bankrupt.
So the 5000 people need to stump up about £150 each.
Otherwise, demolish it.

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jameswill says...
7:44pm Thu 21 Feb 13

well said james young, demolish the thing then all tax payers money wont be wasted and it could go to saving our wonderfull crumbling harbour.

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gurfy says...
7:47pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Forget about saving the Pavilion for now, who is with me in sending Martin Lea 50p each so he can put some credit on his phone and provide some live updates...

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jameswill says...
7:48pm Thu 21 Feb 13

cathy page-nash has 5000 volunteers prepaird to do what? pay for its upkeep, i think not.

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JonInDorset says...
7:55pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Demolition would cost at least £3million. It's not a cost effective option. Hand it over and let the community run it, ASAP.

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jameswill says...
7:59pm Thu 21 Feb 13

joinindorset, they would soon claw back £3million selling on the land.

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sparkleeye says...
8:41pm Thu 21 Feb 13

JamesYoung wrote:
Mick Burt doesnt seem to get the idea of business plans. If a business stuck to plans that clearly weren't working it would be bankrupt.
So the 5000 people need to stump up about £150 each.
Otherwise, demolish it.
Agreed. It is time to say goodbye and Move on. If the Arty minority want to play housey with it , let them finance it themselves in competition with and prospective developers.. They have had a couple of decades of living off everyone's dime.


5000 people to help? So where are the 5000 at the meeting?

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sparkleeye says...
8:43pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Demolition 3 million, what crap.

Get a bunch of Polish and a few others and they'll do it for ten grand and probably make a profit form the rubble.

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gurfy says...
8:43pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Delaying the closure of the Pavilion is costing the taxpayer some serious money, not far shy of £60,000 per month. Jane McKell suggestion would cost £700,000 and Ray Banham delaying until September is a £410k hit to the residents pockets.

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Dylanfan says...
10:45pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Very suspicious of the Echo's snap poll. Seems to me that the Echo is a magnet for the thoroughly negative characters who want to see Weymouth become a wasteland, just so they don't have to pay for anything. Can we please avoid putting the 'go away' sign that these people seem to want at the top of Ridgeway? Why not set about revitalising the investment already made in the Pavilion, which is actually a valuable regional resource? I am really fed up with the support given to the noisy 'there's no hope' brigade. Why not listen to the rest of us! Let's set about making Weymouth attractive once again. The Echo could play a valuable role in doing this - if it chooses to do so.

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SaveThePavilion says...
11:00pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Thank you Dylanfan!

It's about time some positive comments appeared here.

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Simon 1965 says...
1:04pm Fri 22 Feb 13

To sparkleeye,

Its not just the cost of demoltion that has to be accounted for - its all the other bits of pieces that make the total cost run into millions. For instance, the paperwork and project documentation, health and safety considerations, surveys into any hazardous materials that may be present in the building structure that have to established before demolition can take place, then you have the safe removal and disposal of anything hazadous, together wite the cost of removing all the gereral rubbish and safety burying it somewhere.

Dylanfan is the one making the most sense here.

Simon N.

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