UPDATED: Heathland destroyed in suspected arson near Wareham (From Dorset Echo)

What is wrong with these idiots.Its there country they are ruining. Tw@s

Simples, they are scumbags who don't care about other people property as long as they get their kicks and waste the valuable time of our fire services and police. The police think of giving up and who can blame them when the scumbag judges and magistrates' just give them a slap on the wrist and say 'don't do it again you naughty person'

The root cause of these problems are governmental. Why is that you ask.

Well, the government are the twits that took away discipline from the parents, and by that I mean, real discipline. Yes, it is wrong to hit a child excessively, whether that child is a baby or a 13-14 year old youth, but to smack a child with reasonable discipline is not and cannot be wrong.

The government has made it so that both parents 'HAVE' to go out to work to make ends meet because they have not been able to afford the goods and services due to increases caused by government policies on tax and prices. The government, not just this one, but previous governments have failed to control the excesses of the utility companies, particularly gas and electric suppliers, but also water and communications companies.

Back in the sixties and early seventies, you normally had the father out at work, being the breadwinner, and mum at home, doing the housework in the daytime and looking after the children when they came home from school, and yes, there were still some youngsters who thought it was fun to misbehave, but then they still had respect for the local policeman if they got caught doing anything.

If you were caught misbehaving by the local bobby, you got a clip round the ear from him and were then taken home to your parents and were disciplined accordingly by your dad.

If you misbehaved at school, you were given six of the best with the cane by either the teacher or the headmaster and a report was sent to your parents.

Successive liberalist governments have removed the ability to discipline from the police, the schools and the parents so that today the children do not get or experience real discipline.

Perhaps the government should consider returning the idea of National Service to instill some discipline in todays young men and women. A spell of service in the armed forces at between ages of 16 to 19 would instill in them a sense of military discipline. If children and young adults are not given and shown discipline, both command and self discipline, they are likely to stray into a bad path of life, resulting in doing things like this.

In the end, these young people will become habitual criminals, in and out of prisons, prisons which are already over capacity. We can not go on just building new prisons to take these people off the street after they have committed 10 or 12 different crimes, each one worse than the last.

I don't care what anyone says, the violence that children see and experience on the television and whilst playing video games like Black Ops or other violence related games, shapes their future behaviour. Most of these games are rated 18 or higher, but the parents just buy them to keep the kids happy.

It is useless to blame the kids and the young adults for this, it is the governments and the state in general that is responsible for removing the tools of discipline from the parents and other areas of life such as schools and the police.

The police are being cut back at a time when crime is bound to increase, both that committed by the youth, and that committed by adults trying to survive in what they say is the only way to survive. Recessions and austerity can only lead to an increase in criminality within the whole of society, and then the government decides to cut the manpower of the police forces, so that the estates do not have enough policing facilities as there are only so many coppers available at a given time of day, and they cannot be in every place at the same time.

When the country comes out of recession, and that is a big 'when', then what will the government do, they will then increase the size of the police when the crime rate goes down. Someone please explain the logic of this to me please.

What we really need is to get back to the sixties scenario, where one parent worked and the other looked after the house and was there when the children came home from school.

What we see today, is a bunch of children, who have no respect for the law, or for their bodies, as they eat themselves fat and obese. They have no respect for authority, be that the parents or the police or any other authority.

They come home from school, let themselves in with a latchkey, pick up the money that mum has left them to get something to eat, go into town and buy a bunch of burgers or whatever from Maccy Ds or Burger King or KFC, eat whatever they get and then have nothing to do.

Some of them go and get some mug to go into the off licence and buy them alcohol and ciggies, and they hang around the back alleys drinking and smoking, and here I am talking about kids as young as 12.

When I was a child, I was a bit of a rebel but as I lived in the country there was not a lot to do, so I used to mess about in the woods, and go and see the cows and the horses in the fields. But I never set the woods on fire or beat up on the animals. I still had respect for my parents and was disciplined accordingly if I did something wrong. I respected the policeman as he should have been respected, although sometimes I was cheeky to him, but I still held in respect and some fear of being clipped round the ear, taken by the ear and marched home to my parents and then getting disciplined, rightly so.

I know we can not turn back the clock literally, but there are some things we can do as a society to return respect for other people and other peoples property.

It is not all doom and gloom, and there are some very good children and young adults out there that I feel proud to know as they are polite and respectful, and they get that back from me in return, but unfortunately, they are the exception to the rule these days.

Clock back - NO. Respect and humility back - YES.

Well, that's a first Micke12, someone writing a comment on here that actually makes sense. Sounds like we grew up under the same rules - I agree, it's a shame they seem to have been swept away.

But Possum and Micke, WE (and that includes YOU) are the Govenrment!

TenBobDylanThomasHar
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But Possum and Micke, WE (and that includes YOU) are the Govenrment!

I hate to disagree with you TenBobDylan. I did not vote for this corrupt government nor the previous ones. This has to be one of the worst coalition governments that this country has ever had. There have only been 3 coalition governments in the last 100 years. In 1926 we had the general strike, held under conservative rule. In 2013 we have massive austerity under a coalition government, so much so that a lot of the professional non-government economists believe that we will never recover from this triple dip recession, caused mostly by the bankers, yes, but also caused by a coalition government that has tried to cut too much, too soon, leaving the country without a power base economically.

That, of course, is not really pertinent to this discussion, but shows how damaging measures of austerity can be to a country that is already in deep doo-doos. If the government, namely, the coalition want to help this country out of the doo-doos, then stop sending money to these foreign countries like India and Pakistan and stop letting all these immigrants in. There are so many unemployed indigenous people in this country, but if the EU migrants were all to go back to their own country, the unemployment rate would reduce by 75% overnight as employers had to look among British born workers for employees. That of course, is another separate issue, but it does have it's place in this discussion as a root cause of some of our problems, problems which can only get worse later on this year when we allow migrants form Romania to move here at will.

As for my view on governments in general in this country, it is plainly obvious that whichever party is in charge, they are really only interested in what is in it for them, both collectively and individually. So it matters not who you vote for, accepting that I voted none of the main UK parties, including UKIP, I did not vote this corrupt and plainly unfeeling and very complacent government into power, so therefore I am not, the government and I suspect that Possum may well feel the same, although that is a general assumption on Possums part and I apolgise Possum if I am mistaken. It is an error though, TenBobDylan, to say that I or We are the government. We all know that this is a minority government and therefore is not really representative of the people of England or the United Kingdom in general. Comments please, on a Post Card to Micke12, C/O Dorset Echo.co.uk

PossumGoose wrote:
Well, that's a first Micke12, someone writing a comment on here that actually makes sense. Sounds like we grew up under the same rules - I agree, it's a shame they seem to have been swept away.

I usually do write sensible things on here most of the time, but the compliment is gratefully received with much appreciation. Seems though that TenBobDylan thinks he speaks for us too, but we know different, so whilst we acknowledge and respect his right to comment, we really must ask him to desist from assuming WE are the government. Maybe if we were though, we might do a better job than the current lot.

Then stand for election Micke, we live in a Democracy, however you like it we're all part of the system...and no, I don't support this 'shower of creeps' either!