MP Richard Drax's column: Our beloved institutions ‘crumbling’ (From Dorset Echo)

Am I wrong in thinking that many of our beloved institutions are either under fire or crumbling?

No. You're not.



" In parts of the NHS"

......... Run by an arrogant ex communist lefty who likes killing people en masse while making as much as a nations leader.

" Gay marriage has rocked both Anglicans and Roman Catholics" (don't forget Women bishops)

.....Deliberate coups to undermine the so called "patriarchal" church by the Gay, left and feminist.


" The BBC has harboured a sexual predator in its midst for more than 20 years. "

.....A totally left wing vehicle.


" And cover-ups and gagging orders are falling out of the proverbial cupboard faster than can be reported."

.....a behaviourl brought about under Labour left. Now happily still continued under your government it seems.


"Free speech, long enshrined as a basic human right in our country, is monitored for ‘hate crime’"

...Labour, left and EU marxism behind it all, still going on under your government because you don't have the backbone to stop it.


" The alternative is mediocrity,"

Socialism and Britain as it now stands, in a nutshell.


I don't know Richard..what could it be behind it all? I just can't work it out? (sarcasm)


One thing is for sure, your party is not much better and completely lacks the backbone to do what the majority want and this country needs to do. Out of the EU and the overturning of nearly all of the social engineering garbage under Labour.

But it seems this government is all too busy placating and simpering up to the powerful vote lobbyists, many of which are those behind the things that trouble you. Camerons disgraceful obsessive behaviour over Gay marriage to please the lobbyists is enough to prove the man should have been ousted long ago.


UKIP has my vote now, there simply is no other choice. I for one am sick of all three parties. The conservatives via Cameron have sold out all their principals and completely betrayed their core voters.

Time for change, time for a party that puts THIS country and OUR people FIRST !

UKIP.

Just my Tuppence.

My tuppence is in agreement with the previous correspondent.
All the tosh we talk about our wonderful country is a nonsense these days. Yes much of our life is still of values and has values but the majority of people living here no longer care about anything other than themselves.
We live in a take, take, take world and it is always somebody else that should provide, if we want something.
So Richard Drax is right and maybe someday changes will happen.
The only thing we citizens can do is sit and take it.
After a lifetime of voting for the Conservatives so am so fed up that the only alternative I have is UKIP and they will get my vote now. Al least they are honest to be clear what they stand for.
So Mr Drax and Mr Letwin, beware there is an undercurrent of fury with you and the other parties and UKIP just might rise up and devour all of you.

That's nice of the Echo to delete the free speech and comments of two posters, for it seems, political reasons?

Wouldn't be because it is left wing liars in this paper would it?

Disgusting behaviour as always from this paper.

The media is full of lefties.

Having said that, this morning the telegraph (Tory!) was talking about a Dutch finance minister "taking a swipe" at Britain by saying that a run on Sterling was overdue. The bloke was making a factual statement.

" The media is full of lefties. "

Ain't that the truth. It's also not the only thing to go down the pan in standards and integrity since the left, it's quota filling and social engineering took over.

On the subjects of standards declining, what does Mr Drax think of a convicted criminal standing for the county council?

weymouthfox wrote:
On the subjects of standards declining, what does Mr Drax think of a convicted criminal standing for the county council?

What? Who's that?

This forum is full of closet Tories as well! Come on Cameron get on with the social cleansing with the violin music and those special showers for people as they get off the trains. It's a fact of life that the real garbage of society isn't necessary unemployed or on benefits fact.

woodsedge wrote:
This forum is full of closet Tories as well! Come on Cameron get on with the social cleansing with the violin music and those special showers for people as they get off the trains. It's a fact of life that the real garbage of society isn't necessary unemployed or on benefits fact.

This quote would be very upsetting to a lot of people I think you really ought to think before you write,what a sardonic mind you must have

Woodsedge has a point of view which only goes to demonstrate that people like him deserve nothing from life.
I wonder what he contributes to society or is he one of those people who only take??
I might remind him that the country is as close to bankruptcy as you can get and it is all down to left wing people who created the mess, but then he probably doesn't care about the mess he only wants somebody else to pay for it as long as it is not him.

mr commonsense wrote:
Woodsedge has a point of view which only goes to demonstrate that people like him deserve nothing from life.
I wonder what he contributes to society or is he one of those people who only take??
I might remind him that the country is as close to bankruptcy as you can get and it is all down to left wing people who created the mess, but then he probably doesn't care about the mess he only wants somebody else to pay for it as long as it is not him.

Lets see, I have never been unemployed, I served my country for 6 years, I work in a sector where my sole aim is to advise working people, I contribute out of my salary to charity and my wife works in the public sector, that's what I am doing what are you right wing whingers doing? And if you think UKIP are a viable alternative then keep taking the pills! If you are so fed up with your country then plenty of cheap one way tickets out and take your Tory party and UKIP with you. And by the way I expect to get out of life what I put in and I am more than happy to keep putting in and supporting those who have been left in this mess by whatever political party you choose to blame.

Can you clarify what you mean by "serving your country for six years"? Armed forces?

When you dismiss "right wing whingers", you are dismissing those of us whose only "crime" is to (1) demand that the law applies to everybody equally, (2) expect that everyone should work to the best of his ability BEFORE asking for help from others and (3) want to see value from the public sector.

The policies that you have espoused can be summarised as:
(I) making allowances for one group of people to break the law as and when they choose, just because they own a caravan;
(Ii) take more tax from all wealthy people because some of them are criminals and give that wealth to poor people who don't want to work because that's their right;
(Iii) always treat the public sector workers terms and conditions as somehow sacrosanct, because the govt has made some unwritten lifetime promise to them that includes better holidays, better pay and better pensions than their paymasters.

Which view do you think will bankrupt the country first?

woodsedge wrote:

mr commonsense wrote:
Woodsedge has a point of view which only goes to demonstrate that people like him deserve nothing from life.
I wonder what he contributes to society or is he one of those people who only take??
I might remind him that the country is as close to bankruptcy as you can get and it is all down to left wing people who created the mess, but then he probably doesn't care about the mess he only wants somebody else to pay for it as long as it is not him.

Lets see, I have never been unemployed, I served my country for 6 years, I work in a sector where my sole aim is to advise working people, I contribute out of my salary to charity and my wife works in the public sector, that's what I am doing what are you right wing whingers doing? And if you think UKIP are a viable alternative then keep taking the pills! If you are so fed up with your country then plenty of cheap one way tickets out and take your Tory party and UKIP with you. And by the way I expect to get out of life what I put in and I am more than happy to keep putting in and supporting those who have been left in this mess by whatever political party you choose to blame.

And PS although you claim to expect to get out of life what you put it, and you claim to want to support those "left in this mess" that is demonstrably untrue because you are in strong opposition to any suggestion that you or your wife should have your public sector pensions or terms and conditions curtailed so that vulnerable people can be supported using limited government funds.

JamesYoung wrote:

woodsedge wrote:

mr commonsense wrote:
Woodsedge has a point of view which only goes to demonstrate that people like him deserve nothing from life.
I wonder what he contributes to society or is he one of those people who only take??
I might remind him that the country is as close to bankruptcy as you can get and it is all down to left wing people who created the mess, but then he probably doesn't care about the mess he only wants somebody else to pay for it as long as it is not him.

Lets see, I have never been unemployed, I served my country for 6 years, I work in a sector where my sole aim is to advise working people, I contribute out of my salary to charity and my wife works in the public sector, that's what I am doing what are you right wing whingers doing? And if you think UKIP are a viable alternative then keep taking the pills! If you are so fed up with your country then plenty of cheap one way tickets out and take your Tory party and UKIP with you. And by the way I expect to get out of life what I put in and I am more than happy to keep putting in and supporting those who have been left in this mess by whatever political party you choose to blame.

And PS although you claim to expect to get out of life what you put it, and you claim to want to support those "left in this mess" that is demonstrably untrue because you are in strong opposition to any suggestion that you or your wife should have your public sector pensions or terms and conditions curtailed so that vulnerable people can be supported using limited government funds.

James, James, James what have I told you about making assumptions! Despite my views of wanting a fair society and walking the walk instead of talking the talk, I work in the private sector. What I am in opposition to and always will be, is the elitist dribble and marginalise the poor right wing spill that comes out in this forum. I have told you what I am doing in these hard times, what about you?

I see the public sector pensions have been mentioned again,and I also see on the news that the pcs union leader Sowotka is calling for a series of strikes again. Thats good coming from this communist thinking guy. I am sick of hearing about Fireman, teachers,and nurses deserving pensions so are a lot of people. I worked in civil eng most of my life building bridges tunnels etc equally dangerous and important to the good of this country,but i did'nt get any pension out of it. I know that the police and fireman pay quite a bit into their pension,and so did I but I had to carry on till I was 65and my pension looks a bit sick compared to a couple of friends of mine who had their pension based on their final salary.Good old Gordon seen to that

I see the public sector pensions have been mentioned again,and I also see on the news that the pcs union leader Sowotka is calling for a series of strikes again. Thats good coming from this communist thinking guy. I am sick of hearing about Fireman, teachers,and nurses deserving pensions so are a lot of people. I worked in civil eng most of my life building bridges tunnels etc equally dangerous and important to the good of this country,but i did'nt get any pension out of it. I know that the police and fireman pay quite a bit into their pension,and so did I but I had to carry on till I was 65and my pension looks a bit sick compared to a couple of friends of mine who had their pension based on their final salary.Good old Gordon seen to that

Oops must be getting tired pressed the mouse again, must be worn out working so hard all my life!

woodsedge wrote:

JamesYoung wrote:

woodsedge wrote:

mr commonsense wrote:
Woodsedge has a point of view which only goes to demonstrate that people like him deserve nothing from life.
I wonder what he contributes to society or is he one of those people who only take??
I might remind him that the country is as close to bankruptcy as you can get and it is all down to left wing people who created the mess, but then he probably doesn't care about the mess he only wants somebody else to pay for it as long as it is not him.

Lets see, I have never been unemployed, I served my country for 6 years, I work in a sector where my sole aim is to advise working people, I contribute out of my salary to charity and my wife works in the public sector, that's what I am doing what are you right wing whingers doing? And if you think UKIP are a viable alternative then keep taking the pills! If you are so fed up with your country then plenty of cheap one way tickets out and take your Tory party and UKIP with you. And by the way I expect to get out of life what I put in and I am more than happy to keep putting in and supporting those who have been left in this mess by whatever political party you choose to blame.

And PS although you claim to expect to get out of life what you put it, and you claim to want to support those "left in this mess" that is demonstrably untrue because you are in strong opposition to any suggestion that you or your wife should have your public sector pensions or terms and conditions curtailed so that vulnerable people can be supported using limited government funds.

James, James, James what have I told you about making assumptions! Despite my views of wanting a fair society and walking the walk instead of talking the talk, I work in the private sector. What I am in opposition to and always will be, is the elitist dribble and marginalise the poor right wing spill that comes out in this forum. I have told you what I am doing in these hard times, what about you?

I am working, as i have always done. Until i had to work in London because work dried up down here, i was a voluntary trustee of a local housing association and also drove minibuses for a local charity for the disabled and a local club for elderly at a local church. I was also part of a team that submitted a bid to buy Officers Field and turn it into housing for local working people (search for "island space could house social homes" on this very website).
I don't have the luxury of anonymity so you can check any of these statements quite easily.
What you see as right wing and elitist is to me nothing but common sense. Society cannot function unless everybody works for the benefit of that society to the best of his or her ability, before asking for help. It certainly cannot function if its scarce resources are wasted on groups such as travellers , who are allowed to act as if they are above the law.

You have a grammatical error in your post 'nation she is being undermined'. Victor would not have allowed that, despite his short comings.

I'm slightly confused as to why you outline lots of stuff and then don't really suggest a solution?

MPs get caught with their hands in the till - yes ok, what do you think should be done?

Gay marriage - ok, do you hate the idea or are you gay yourself?

The NHS, yes what about it?

You talk about mediocrity, I think your post suffers from a lack of backbone...

JamesYoung wrote:

woodsedge wrote:

JamesYoung wrote:

woodsedge wrote:

mr commonsense wrote:
Woodsedge has a point of view which only goes to demonstrate that people like him deserve nothing from life.
I wonder what he contributes to society or is he one of those people who only take??
I might remind him that the country is as close to bankruptcy as you can get and it is all down to left wing people who created the mess, but then he probably doesn't care about the mess he only wants somebody else to pay for it as long as it is not him.

Lets see, I have never been unemployed, I served my country for 6 years, I work in a sector where my sole aim is to advise working people, I contribute out of my salary to charity and my wife works in the public sector, that's what I am doing what are you right wing whingers doing? And if you think UKIP are a viable alternative then keep taking the pills! If you are so fed up with your country then plenty of cheap one way tickets out and take your Tory party and UKIP with you. And by the way I expect to get out of life what I put in and I am more than happy to keep putting in and supporting those who have been left in this mess by whatever political party you choose to blame.

And PS although you claim to expect to get out of life what you put it, and you claim to want to support those "left in this mess" that is demonstrably untrue because you are in strong opposition to any suggestion that you or your wife should have your public sector pensions or terms and conditions curtailed so that vulnerable people can be supported using limited government funds.

James, James, James what have I told you about making assumptions! Despite my views of wanting a fair society and walking the walk instead of talking the talk, I work in the private sector. What I am in opposition to and always will be, is the elitist dribble and marginalise the poor right wing spill that comes out in this forum. I have told you what I am doing in these hard times, what about you?

I am working, as i have always done. Until i had to work in London because work dried up down here, i was a voluntary trustee of a local housing association and also drove minibuses for a local charity for the disabled and a local club for elderly at a local church. I was also part of a team that submitted a bid to buy Officers Field and turn it into housing for local working people (search for "island space could house social homes" on this very website).
I don't have the luxury of anonymity so you can check any of these statements quite easily.
What you see as right wing and elitist is to me nothing but common sense. Society cannot function unless everybody works for the benefit of that society to the best of his or her ability, before asking for help. It certainly cannot function if its scarce resources are wasted on groups such as travellers , who are allowed to act as if they are above the law.

I wouldn't waste my breathe, the fickle lefties best defence is to simply label any common sense approach as being right wing. They are the main reason why this country is in the dire mess it currently is in. The only contribution they make is to throw the toys out of the pram and offer no ideas or contribution to fixing the problem.

JamesYoung wrote:

woodsedge wrote:

JamesYoung wrote:

woodsedge wrote:

mr commonsense wrote:
Woodsedge has a point of view which only goes to demonstrate that people like him deserve nothing from life.
I wonder what he contributes to society or is he one of those people who only take??
I might remind him that the country is as close to bankruptcy as you can get and it is all down to left wing people who created the mess, but then he probably doesn't care about the mess he only wants somebody else to pay for it as long as it is not him.

Lets see, I have never been unemployed, I served my country for 6 years, I work in a sector where my sole aim is to advise working people, I contribute out of my salary to charity and my wife works in the public sector, that's what I am doing what are you right wing whingers doing? And if you think UKIP are a viable alternative then keep taking the pills! If you are so fed up with your country then plenty of cheap one way tickets out and take your Tory party and UKIP with you. And by the way I expect to get out of life what I put in and I am more than happy to keep putting in and supporting those who have been left in this mess by whatever political party you choose to blame.

And PS although you claim to expect to get out of life what you put it, and you claim to want to support those "left in this mess" that is demonstrably untrue because you are in strong opposition to any suggestion that you or your wife should have your public sector pensions or terms and conditions curtailed so that vulnerable people can be supported using limited government funds.

James, James, James what have I told you about making assumptions! Despite my views of wanting a fair society and walking the walk instead of talking the talk, I work in the private sector. What I am in opposition to and always will be, is the elitist dribble and marginalise the poor right wing spill that comes out in this forum. I have told you what I am doing in these hard times, what about you?

I am working, as i have always done. Until i had to work in London because work dried up down here, i was a voluntary trustee of a local housing association and also drove minibuses for a local charity for the disabled and a local club for elderly at a local church. I was also part of a team that submitted a bid to buy Officers Field and turn it into housing for local working people (search for "island space could house social homes" on this very website).
I don't have the luxury of anonymity so you can check any of these statements quite easily.
What you see as right wing and elitist is to me nothing but common sense. Society cannot function unless everybody works for the benefit of that society to the best of his or her ability, before asking for help. It certainly cannot function if its scarce resources are wasted on groups such as travellers , who are allowed to act as if they are above the law.

We might disagree on the deficit and politics but hat's off to you for contributing to society and not another keyboard warrior. You may not get my vote but perhaps my respect?

cj07589 wrote:

JamesYoung wrote:

woodsedge wrote:

JamesYoung wrote:

woodsedge wrote:

mr commonsense wrote:
Woodsedge has a point of view which only goes to demonstrate that people like him deserve nothing from life.
I wonder what he contributes to society or is he one of those people who only take??
I might remind him that the country is as close to bankruptcy as you can get and it is all down to left wing people who created the mess, but then he probably doesn't care about the mess he only wants somebody else to pay for it as long as it is not him.

Lets see, I have never been unemployed, I served my country for 6 years, I work in a sector where my sole aim is to advise working people, I contribute out of my salary to charity and my wife works in the public sector, that's what I am doing what are you right wing whingers doing? And if you think UKIP are a viable alternative then keep taking the pills! If you are so fed up with your country then plenty of cheap one way tickets out and take your Tory party and UKIP with you. And by the way I expect to get out of life what I put in and I am more than happy to keep putting in and supporting those who have been left in this mess by whatever political party you choose to blame.

And PS although you claim to expect to get out of life what you put it, and you claim to want to support those "left in this mess" that is demonstrably untrue because you are in strong opposition to any suggestion that you or your wife should have your public sector pensions or terms and conditions curtailed so that vulnerable people can be supported using limited government funds.

James, James, James what have I told you about making assumptions! Despite my views of wanting a fair society and walking the walk instead of talking the talk, I work in the private sector. What I am in opposition to and always will be, is the elitist dribble and marginalise the poor right wing spill that comes out in this forum. I have told you what I am doing in these hard times, what about you?

I am working, as i have always done. Until i had to work in London because work dried up down here, i was a voluntary trustee of a local housing association and also drove minibuses for a local charity for the disabled and a local club for elderly at a local church. I was also part of a team that submitted a bid to buy Officers Field and turn it into housing for local working people (search for "island space could house social homes" on this very website).
I don't have the luxury of anonymity so you can check any of these statements quite easily.
What you see as right wing and elitist is to me nothing but common sense. Society cannot function unless everybody works for the benefit of that society to the best of his or her ability, before asking for help. It certainly cannot function if its scarce resources are wasted on groups such as travellers , who are allowed to act as if they are above the law.

I wouldn't waste my breathe, the fickle lefties best defence is to simply label any common sense approach as being right wing. They are the main reason why this country is in the dire mess it currently is in. The only contribution they make is to throw the toys out of the pram and offer no ideas or contribution to fixing the problem.

Taxi for cj!