£100k Weymouth roundabout 'wrong size'

The new roundabout at Overcombe Corner in Weymouth branded 'a waste of money'

The new roundabout at Overcombe Corner in Weymouth branded 'a waste of money'

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A £100,000 mini-roundabout has been branded ‘a dangerous waste of money’ after it was made twice as big as it should be.

Engineers behind the road improvement scheme in Weymouth have admitted the roundabout at the centre of the project is the wrong size.

And to compound matters the whole road is being resurfaced next month wiping out the roundabout completely.

Dorset County Council is half way through a 10-week project to change the layout of busy Overcombe Corner at Preston.

It has been revealed the roundabout is eight metres in diameter when it should be half the size.

Locals say traffic negotiating the roundabout tends to drive over it rather than go round.

The county council said it was an ‘honest mistake’ when it was painted. And as the whole road will be resurfaced next month at the end of the scheme, the roundabout will have to be repainted anyway so will be put back to the size it should be and will cost no extra money.

Borough councillor for Preston Ian Bruce has been against the scheme from the start, branding it a ‘waste of money’, but has been monitoring the work.

He said large vehicles including buses appeared to have difficulty driving on to the roundabout from Preston Beach Road due to the newly built-out kerb.

Coun Bruce added: “The roundabout is enormous and bigger than shown on the plan.

“At least it shows up and everyone realises it is a roundabout.

“The only problem is that some purists believe you are supposed to keep off the painted section when they manoeuvre round and that is almost impossible to do.

“No doubt the painting contractor will get paid to do it again.”

John Brooks of Oakbury Drive said the scheme was a ‘complete and utter waste of money’.

He added: “Having been a bus and coach driver for almost 50 years I can say you wouldn’t get a large vehicle round the roundabout and miss the circle.

“It’s too large to a point of being ludicrous.”

Mr Brooks suggested the money would be better spent repairing potholes around the area.

John Liles of Preston Road said due to the roundabout’s size and position, motorists were choosing to drive over it rather than round it. He said: “When they first painted it I thought it looked very odd. It’s positioned off centre so coming from Preston towards town you have to go left towards Bowleaze Coveway to go round it.

“They should make it smaller to make it more obvious as a roundabout rather than a big blob of paint in the road.”

Mr Liles welcomed the alteration on the north side of the junction where the kerb had been built out, helping to slow down traffic coming off Preston Beach Road.

But he added: “An awful lot of money is being spent for what the council want to achieve.”

Changes at Overcombe Corner are the first phase of a Preston Road improvement scheme which was allocated £250,000 from the Weymouth Relief Road project.

A county council spokesman said: “As the money has been allocated via the relief road project and Department for Transport it would be unlikely that this money could be reassigned to another project.

“The DfT have awarded the money for the works detailed in the business case and carefully monitor how the money is spent.”

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9:27am Fri 19 Apr 13

annotator1 says...

The work is not only dangerous to larger vehicles but a gross waste of our resources. There has not been a problem on Overcombe Corner until now.
Total incompetence!
The work is not only dangerous to larger vehicles but a gross waste of our resources. There has not been a problem on Overcombe Corner until now. Total incompetence! annotator1
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9:53am Fri 19 Apr 13

Mr_Blue_Sky says...

The alignment of the junction as a whole is very dangerous, it's not easy to see traffic coming down from bowleze due to alignment of the road. An accident here soon is inevitable.
The alignment of the junction as a whole is very dangerous, it's not easy to see traffic coming down from bowleze due to alignment of the road. An accident here soon is inevitable. Mr_Blue_Sky
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9:58am Fri 19 Apr 13

vicky-13 says...

How about digging up the roundabout and installing traffic lights! I think this junction is one place it would work and you could combine it with the pelican crossing.
How about digging up the roundabout and installing traffic lights! I think this junction is one place it would work and you could combine it with the pelican crossing. vicky-13
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9:58am Fri 19 Apr 13

PUZZLED ONE says...

The roundabout at the junction of Littlemoor and Dorchester roads is similar, it is difficult not to drive over the centre circle when turning right from Dorchester Road into Littlemoor Road.
In addition, some drivers coming south down Dorchester Road seem to approach the roundabout too fast to be able to give way to vehicles turning left from Littlemoor Road.
The roundabout at the junction of Littlemoor and Dorchester roads is similar, it is difficult not to drive over the centre circle when turning right from Dorchester Road into Littlemoor Road. In addition, some drivers coming south down Dorchester Road seem to approach the roundabout too fast to be able to give way to vehicles turning left from Littlemoor Road. PUZZLED ONE
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10:01am Fri 19 Apr 13

scubadude says...

How about when its resurfaced putting it back how it was? That junction needed a roundabout as much as a Fish needs a Toaster.
Given their recent history the council should ban the highways division from making any changes until they've got approval from 1000 local drivers, clearly they have no common sense what so ever!
How about when its resurfaced putting it back how it was? That junction needed a roundabout as much as a Fish needs a Toaster. Given their recent history the council should ban the highways division from making any changes until they've got approval from 1000 local drivers, clearly they have no common sense what so ever! scubadude
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11:25am Fri 19 Apr 13

islandman says...

Who's worrying about being entertained at the Pavilion when we have a bunch of comedians let loose on the general public.
Who's worrying about being entertained at the Pavilion when we have a bunch of comedians let loose on the general public. islandman
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11:30am Fri 19 Apr 13

Old Bill says...

Love it. Who needs comedians with **** like these running the show.
Love it. Who needs comedians with **** like these running the show. Old Bill
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11:58am Fri 19 Apr 13

GMax says...

"Engineers behind the road improvement scheme in Weymouth have admitted the roundabout at the centre of the project is the wrong size.

And to compound matters the whole road is being resurfaced next month wiping out the roundabout completely"
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I think that I'm gonna get my self a badge and a piece of paper saying that I'm an Engineer, at least I know what 4 meters is.
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Wouldn't it also not have been LOGICAL to do the roundabout after the or during the resurfacing of the road?
Or is that me being backwards?
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GMax
"Engineers behind the road improvement scheme in Weymouth have admitted the roundabout at the centre of the project is the wrong size. And to compound matters the whole road is being resurfaced next month wiping out the roundabout completely" . I think that I'm gonna get my self a badge and a piece of paper saying that I'm an Engineer, at least I know what 4 meters is. . Wouldn't it also not have been LOGICAL to do the roundabout after the or during the resurfacing of the road? Or is that me being backwards? . GMax GMax
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12:08pm Fri 19 Apr 13

PUZZLED ONE says...

GMax
4 meters, is that two for gas and two for electricity?
4 METRES is 13.123359580052492 feet, approximately (:o))
GMax 4 meters, is that two for gas and two for electricity? 4 METRES is 13.123359580052492 feet, approximately (:o)) PUZZLED ONE
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12:49pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Caption Sensible says...

Complete and utter morons.

Don't forget to vote in May...
Complete and utter morons. Don't forget to vote in May... Caption Sensible
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1:26pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Hedgehogspring says...

The incompetence of those "in authority" in Weymouth is staggering.
If this was another counrty, there would be no waiting until election time. The offices would be stormed and the bunch of t w a t s in there thrown out onto the streets. These people should be arrested for criminal damage to the town. How it is possible to have a council completely made up of total idiots. They really should b punished for what they have done to Weymouth !!!
The incompetence of those "in authority" in Weymouth is staggering. If this was another counrty, there would be no waiting until election time. The offices would be stormed and the bunch of t w a t s in there thrown out onto the streets. These people should be arrested for criminal damage to the town. How it is possible to have a council completely made up of total idiots. They really should b punished for what they have done to Weymouth !!! Hedgehogspring
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1:30pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Turn It Down says...

I think there's a second story here.

Why is Ian Bruce on the front page? He is the brief holder for Tourism & Leisure for Weymouth & Portland Borough Council. Nothing to do with the roads which I believe are the responsibility of Dorset County Council.

Could it be there is be an election in the next two weeks? Yes. Is Ian Bruce standing for election? Yes, Yes Yes!
I think there's a second story here. Why is Ian Bruce on the front page? He is the brief holder for Tourism & Leisure for Weymouth & Portland Borough Council. Nothing to do with the roads which I believe are the responsibility of Dorset County Council. Could it be there is be an election in the next two weeks? Yes. Is Ian Bruce standing for election? Yes, Yes Yes! Turn It Down
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1:34pm Fri 19 Apr 13

PUZZLED ONE says...

Caption Sensible
Unfortunately it is not the morons that we vote for but the 'officials' at DCC who are ultimately responsible. Their competence really shone when they gave a presentation on the proposed (by them) changes to Preston Road and insisted that islands in the middle of the road would not be used by pedestrians crossing the road because that would not be the purpose of the islands. I am not sure how they intended to stop pedestrians using them, perhaps they were going to put fences around them (:o)).
Caption Sensible Unfortunately it is not the morons that we vote for but the 'officials' at DCC who are ultimately responsible. Their competence really shone when they gave a presentation on the proposed (by them) changes to Preston Road and insisted that islands in the middle of the road would not be used by pedestrians crossing the road because that would not be the purpose of the islands. I am not sure how they intended to stop pedestrians using them, perhaps they were going to put fences around them (:o)). PUZZLED ONE
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2:07pm Fri 19 Apr 13

pigfarmer says...

As above, the elected ones are not usually responsible for the duck ups.

It's the hired help, those with the pensions, sick pay and no accountability that make these errors, but do they ever get sacked ?

If the person/persons responsible are reading this.... How long do you think you would last out here in the real world ?

Buck your ideas up man, I pay your wages, I want the job done right.
As above, the elected ones are not usually responsible for the duck ups. It's the hired help, those with the pensions, sick pay and no accountability that make these errors, but do they ever get sacked ? If the person/persons responsible are reading this.... How long do you think you would last out here in the real world ? Buck your ideas up man, I pay your wages, I want the job done right. pigfarmer
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2:16pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Chalbury says...

I am concerned that we, the tax payer are funding what is totally unnecessary works. They state that the finding is comming from the 'relief road pot' provided by central government - not from local funds. In reality we have all paid for it through taxes - so yes it is from our pockets. These people, employed by DCC (not the elected councillors) who are paid for by us are rarely held to account for thier mistakes. There needs to be more openess.

When the plans were put on view - I attended one of the public 'consultations'. It was obvious from the start that the plans were badly designed. Traffic islands in the middle of the road near to Melstock Avenue which is on the brow of the hill - a receipe for collisions!!

'They', the the designers of the 'improvements' also want to mess around with the traffic flow at Chalbury Corner. Moving the road alignment and crossing, installing a shared pathway for pedestrians and cyclists (yes I cycle as well) - all totally unnecessary.

From what I overheard at the so called 'consultation' meeting, many persons were not in favour of the changes along Preston Road - so why are they going ahead?

A costly debacle, such as what has happened at Overcombe Corner is not acceptable and disciplinary action should be taken against whoever is responsible.
I am concerned that we, the tax payer are funding what is totally unnecessary works. They state that the finding is comming from the 'relief road pot' provided by central government - not from local funds. In reality we have all paid for it through taxes - so yes it is from our pockets. These people, employed by DCC (not the elected councillors) who are paid for by us are rarely held to account for thier mistakes. There needs to be more openess. When the plans were put on view - I attended one of the public 'consultations'. It was obvious from the start that the plans were badly designed. Traffic islands in the middle of the road near to Melstock Avenue which is on the brow of the hill - a receipe for collisions!! 'They', the the designers of the 'improvements' also want to mess around with the traffic flow at Chalbury Corner. Moving the road alignment and crossing, installing a shared pathway for pedestrians and cyclists (yes I cycle as well) - all totally unnecessary. From what I overheard at the so called 'consultation' meeting, many persons were not in favour of the changes along Preston Road - so why are they going ahead? A costly debacle, such as what has happened at Overcombe Corner is not acceptable and disciplinary action should be taken against whoever is responsible. Chalbury
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2:35pm Fri 19 Apr 13

wurzelbasher says...

Oh not another white elephant designed by a bunch of amateurs. Call in the consultants and sack the amateurs!
Oh not another white elephant designed by a bunch of amateurs. Call in the consultants and sack the amateurs! wurzelbasher
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2:39pm Fri 19 Apr 13

siratb says...

I live in Preston and I want a roundabout there to a) stop idiots flying round Overcoombe corner and mowing down a child and b) make it easier to get into and out of Bowleaze without having to wait for a gap in the traffic.
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The idea is to encourage "larger" traffic to travel down the bypass and not through Preston...seems like a good idea to me.
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By the way I voted for this scheme on the dorsetforyou website, where everyone had the opportunity to vote and comment........
I live in Preston and I want a roundabout there to a) stop idiots flying round Overcoombe corner and mowing down a child and b) make it easier to get into and out of Bowleaze without having to wait for a gap in the traffic. . The idea is to encourage "larger" traffic to travel down the bypass and not through Preston...seems like a good idea to me. . By the way I voted for this scheme on the dorsetforyou website, where everyone had the opportunity to vote and comment........ siratb
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2:40pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Caption Sensible says...

PUZZLED ONE wrote:
Caption Sensible
Unfortunately it is not the morons that we vote for but the 'officials' at DCC who are ultimately responsible. Their competence really shone when they gave a presentation on the proposed (by them) changes to Preston Road and insisted that islands in the middle of the road would not be used by pedestrians crossing the road because that would not be the purpose of the islands. I am not sure how they intended to stop pedestrians using them, perhaps they were going to put fences around them (:o)).
Yes, I know, but the "elected ones" are supposed to be overseeing these buffoons, directing operations and leading us to a glorious future... Apparently...
[quote][p][bold]PUZZLED ONE[/bold] wrote: Caption Sensible Unfortunately it is not the morons that we vote for but the 'officials' at DCC who are ultimately responsible. Their competence really shone when they gave a presentation on the proposed (by them) changes to Preston Road and insisted that islands in the middle of the road would not be used by pedestrians crossing the road because that would not be the purpose of the islands. I am not sure how they intended to stop pedestrians using them, perhaps they were going to put fences around them (:o)).[/p][/quote]Yes, I know, but the "elected ones" are supposed to be overseeing these buffoons, directing operations and leading us to a glorious future... Apparently... Caption Sensible
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2:51pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Is it me or is everything rubbish? says...

Most Councillors are not aware of what is going on- until it is too late.

Also, one Councillor on their own is unlikely to be able to make enough noise to actually make any real difference.

You have to hope that the Council staff responsible for these decisions are intelligent enough.

Clearly they are not- however, it won't be a problem as their does not seem to be any accountability.

If Joe Public in the Real World did this in their job, they would rightly get a rollicking.
Most Councillors are not aware of what is going on- until it is too late. Also, one Councillor on their own is unlikely to be able to make enough noise to actually make any real difference. You have to hope that the Council staff responsible for these decisions are intelligent enough. Clearly they are not- however, it won't be a problem as their does not seem to be any accountability. If Joe Public in the Real World did this in their job, they would rightly get a rollicking. Is it me or is everything rubbish?
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3:06pm Fri 19 Apr 13

niceonecyril says...

PUZZLED ONE wrote:
The roundabout at the junction of Littlemoor and Dorchester roads is similar, it is difficult not to drive over the centre circle when turning right from Dorchester Road into Littlemoor Road.
In addition, some drivers coming south down Dorchester Road seem to approach the roundabout too fast to be able to give way to vehicles turning left from Littlemoor Road.
It's only difficult if you are not a capable driver, the thing in front of you is a steering wheel, easy enough to use, and why would traffic coming south down Dorch Rd give way to traffic from littlemoor Rd? sums it up really!
[quote][p][bold]PUZZLED ONE[/bold] wrote: The roundabout at the junction of Littlemoor and Dorchester roads is similar, it is difficult not to drive over the centre circle when turning right from Dorchester Road into Littlemoor Road. In addition, some drivers coming south down Dorchester Road seem to approach the roundabout too fast to be able to give way to vehicles turning left from Littlemoor Road.[/p][/quote]It's only difficult if you are not a capable driver, the thing in front of you is a steering wheel, easy enough to use, and why would traffic coming south down Dorch Rd give way to traffic from littlemoor Rd? sums it up really! niceonecyril
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3:13pm Fri 19 Apr 13

niceonecyril says...

There is no reason whatsoever why that car in the picture is breaking the law!. From that picture it certainly looks like you could easily obey the law and use the roundabout as stated in the highway code. Oh wait a minute the laws that apply to the rest of the country don't apply to Weymouth drivers, and lets be fair going over it will save 3/10s of a second which is important in the lives of you high flyers!
There is no reason whatsoever why that car in the picture is breaking the law!. From that picture it certainly looks like you could easily obey the law and use the roundabout as stated in the highway code. Oh wait a minute the laws that apply to the rest of the country don't apply to Weymouth drivers, and lets be fair going over it will save 3/10s of a second which is important in the lives of you high flyers! niceonecyril
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3:25pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Old Bill says...

Niceonecyril. Your punctuation is s---e.
Niceonecyril. Your punctuation is s---e. Old Bill
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3:33pm Fri 19 Apr 13

kildare43 says...

And David Cameron only today said that it was Labour run Councils that were wasting taxpayers money. DCC are not fit for purpose and should be put into Administration but of course they haven't the guts as that would be tantemount to admitting they were wrong and we all know it's other parties that make mistakes not theirs.
And David Cameron only today said that it was Labour run Councils that were wasting taxpayers money. DCC are not fit for purpose and should be put into Administration but of course they haven't the guts as that would be tantemount to admitting they were wrong and we all know it's other parties that make mistakes not theirs. kildare43
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3:51pm Fri 19 Apr 13

dorsetspeed says...

The facts that it was wrong, and will be ripped up anyway, are bad enough. But what I find most incredible is that they have happily agreed to a price of £100,000 for a painted circle and a couple of arrows! What is the paint made out of, titanium?

No wonder our councils are running out of money. Absolute idiots.
The facts that it was wrong, and will be ripped up anyway, are bad enough. But what I find most incredible is that they have happily agreed to a price of £100,000 for a painted circle and a couple of arrows! What is the paint made out of, titanium? No wonder our councils are running out of money. Absolute idiots. dorsetspeed
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3:59pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Howlin Wolf says...

OK, I will hold my hands up; It was me that asked for the titanium paint, pricey but looks fantastic.

The request to vajazzle the bus shelter was unfortunately denied.
OK, I will hold my hands up; It was me that asked for the titanium paint, pricey but looks fantastic. The request to vajazzle the bus shelter was unfortunately denied. Howlin Wolf
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4:25pm Fri 19 Apr 13

February1948 says...

Chalbury wrote:
I am concerned that we, the tax payer are funding what is totally unnecessary works. They state that the finding is comming from the 'relief road pot' provided by central government - not from local funds. In reality we have all paid for it through taxes - so yes it is from our pockets. These people, employed by DCC (not the elected councillors) who are paid for by us are rarely held to account for thier mistakes. There needs to be more openess. When the plans were put on view - I attended one of the public 'consultations'. It was obvious from the start that the plans were badly designed. Traffic islands in the middle of the road near to Melstock Avenue which is on the brow of the hill - a receipe for collisions!! 'They', the the designers of the 'improvements' also want to mess around with the traffic flow at Chalbury Corner. Moving the road alignment and crossing, installing a shared pathway for pedestrians and cyclists (yes I cycle as well) - all totally unnecessary. From what I overheard at the so called 'consultation' meeting, many persons were not in favour of the changes along Preston Road - so why are they going ahead? A costly debacle, such as what has happened at Overcombe Corner is not acceptable and disciplinary action should be taken against whoever is responsible.
A consultation is, of course, merely a meeting where we, the people who pay for all this, are told what has been decided.
[quote][p][bold]Chalbury[/bold] wrote: I am concerned that we, the tax payer are funding what is totally unnecessary works. They state that the finding is comming from the 'relief road pot' provided by central government - not from local funds. In reality we have all paid for it through taxes - so yes it is from our pockets. These people, employed by DCC (not the elected councillors) who are paid for by us are rarely held to account for thier mistakes. There needs to be more openess. When the plans were put on view - I attended one of the public 'consultations'. It was obvious from the start that the plans were badly designed. Traffic islands in the middle of the road near to Melstock Avenue which is on the brow of the hill - a receipe for collisions!! 'They', the the designers of the 'improvements' also want to mess around with the traffic flow at Chalbury Corner. Moving the road alignment and crossing, installing a shared pathway for pedestrians and cyclists (yes I cycle as well) - all totally unnecessary. From what I overheard at the so called 'consultation' meeting, many persons were not in favour of the changes along Preston Road - so why are they going ahead? A costly debacle, such as what has happened at Overcombe Corner is not acceptable and disciplinary action should be taken against whoever is responsible.[/p][/quote]A consultation is, of course, merely a meeting where we, the people who pay for all this, are told what has been decided. February1948
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4:31pm Fri 19 Apr 13

siratb says...

Don't believe all you read in the Echo (or any of it?!) 100 grand for just the circle...I doubt it.......
Don't believe all you read in the Echo (or any of it?!) 100 grand for just the circle...I doubt it....... siratb
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4:40pm Fri 19 Apr 13

PUZZLED ONE says...

niceonecyril
It is not that I expect cars coming down Dorchester Road to give way, it is that the sight lines are so poor that when turning left from Littlemoor Road it is difficult to see the cars coming which is made worse when the cars approach the roundabout at a fair speed from the north.
February1948
Many a true word in your comment - it seems to be the old 'spend it or we lose it' syndrome which seems to affect all 'civil servants'.
niceonecyril It is not that I expect cars coming down Dorchester Road to give way, it is that the sight lines are so poor that when turning left from Littlemoor Road it is difficult to see the cars coming which is made worse when the cars approach the roundabout at a fair speed from the north. February1948 Many a true word in your comment - it seems to be the old 'spend it or we lose it' syndrome which seems to affect all 'civil servants'. PUZZLED ONE
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4:53pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Mrs Grumps says...

I use this junction regularly and the roundabout will be very useful, especially at times when the traffic is heavy. It has been almost impossible to turn right out of Overcombe in the past. However, I was shocked when I saw the size of it! The picture, like all photos makes the junction look much more spacious than it is but there is room for a small roundabout. I don't know why a small one wasn't just painted on the road without any need for all the other alterations. It does seem a complete waste of time and money and, as others have said, why was it not left until AFTER the road was resurfaced? It is sickening to see public money wasted like this.
I use this junction regularly and the roundabout will be very useful, especially at times when the traffic is heavy. It has been almost impossible to turn right out of Overcombe in the past. However, I was shocked when I saw the size of it! The picture, like all photos makes the junction look much more spacious than it is but there is room for a small roundabout. I don't know why a small one wasn't just painted on the road without any need for all the other alterations. It does seem a complete waste of time and money and, as others have said, why was it not left until AFTER the road was resurfaced? It is sickening to see public money wasted like this. Mrs Grumps
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5:16pm Fri 19 Apr 13

moss says...

I reckon some dopey engineer/operative got the diameter mixed up with the radius!!!
I reckon some dopey engineer/operative got the diameter mixed up with the radius!!! moss
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5:19pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Phaedrus says...

A much simpler and much lower cost way of improving safety at this junction would be to move the 30mph limit a bit further from the junction and make the signs much more visible. If that isn't done there will be accidents. But this work is not about safety, it is about spending the money allocated and following norms and procedures as Preston Road is no longer classified as a major through route. If they could force us all from Preston and Osmington to use the Relief Road to get to Weymouth you can bet they would. Otherwise the level of competence is about what one would expect from DCC.
A much simpler and much lower cost way of improving safety at this junction would be to move the 30mph limit a bit further from the junction and make the signs much more visible. If that isn't done there will be accidents. But this work is not about safety, it is about spending the money allocated and following norms and procedures as Preston Road is no longer classified as a major through route. If they could force us all from Preston and Osmington to use the Relief Road to get to Weymouth you can bet they would. Otherwise the level of competence is about what one would expect from DCC. Phaedrus
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5:40pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Fallon8 says...

We were visiting family recently,my only reason for returning to Weymouth.i just drove straight over it each time...no probs
We were visiting family recently,my only reason for returning to Weymouth.i just drove straight over it each time...no probs Fallon8
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8:25pm Fri 19 Apr 13

chesilboy says...

I'm sure the circle was painted before the resurfacing because cars are using it as roundabout for SEVERAL WEEKS before the final junction is resurfaced. Why is that an issue?

It may be embarrassing that it is the wrong size now, but this is only temporary and Coun Bruce - the painting contractor was going to repaint the new surface ANYWAY.

So amongst all the totally irrelevant bluff and figures in this story, the only extra cost was the extra paint and time in producing the big circle over the smaller one. (And this may well of been conducted under firm price agreement anyway.)

This is of course assuming that the islands are in the right place! :/
I'm sure the circle was painted before the resurfacing because cars are using it as roundabout for SEVERAL WEEKS before the final junction is resurfaced. Why is that an issue? It may be embarrassing that it is the wrong size now, but this is only temporary and Coun Bruce - the painting contractor was going to repaint the new surface ANYWAY. So amongst all the totally irrelevant bluff and figures in this story, the only extra cost was the extra paint and time in producing the big circle over the smaller one. (And this may well of been conducted under firm price agreement anyway.) This is of course assuming that the islands are in the right place! :/ chesilboy
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9:33pm Fri 19 Apr 13

Dorsetdumpling says...

Sorry, but I don't buy the line that it.s just the bloke who painted the blob in the middle that messed up - look at the proportions, it's clear to me that the whole roundabout is oversized.
So it's a foul up of monumental proportions, and heads should roll.

It would be funny if it wasn't our money.
Sorry, but I don't buy the line that it.s just the bloke who painted the blob in the middle that messed up - look at the proportions, it's clear to me that the whole roundabout is oversized. So it's a foul up of monumental proportions, and heads should roll. It would be funny if it wasn't our money. Dorsetdumpling
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9:33pm Fri 19 Apr 13

droverles says...

My wife asked me if I was going to post a comment about this. I replied that it was a waste of time. Where, I wonder, would public opinion ever be taken into consideration? The country is strapped for cash, but these wonderful councillors need to spend money or lose it. Why not lose it if it's not necessary to use it?

Are ALL costs associated with "improvements" going to the contractors, or are some part of the costs used to supplement someone's "expenses"?

Two questions, why ten weeks and why £100k?
My wife asked me if I was going to post a comment about this. I replied that it was a waste of time. Where, I wonder, would public opinion ever be taken into consideration? The country is strapped for cash, but these wonderful councillors need to spend money or lose it. Why not lose it if it's not necessary to use it? Are ALL costs associated with "improvements" going to the contractors, or are some part of the costs used to supplement someone's "expenses"? Two questions, why ten weeks and why £100k? droverles
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9:35pm Fri 19 Apr 13

I'mavoter says...

siratb wrote:
I live in Preston and I want a roundabout there to a) stop idiots flying round Overcoombe corner and mowing down a child and b) make it easier to get into and out of Bowleaze without having to wait for a gap in the traffic.
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The idea is to encourage "larger" traffic to travel down the bypass and not through Preston...seems like a good idea to me.
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By the way I voted for this scheme on the dorsetforyou website, where everyone had the opportunity to vote and comment........
How many children have been knocked down there so far ? Please justify your assumption .
No it will not make larger vehicle use the by-pass, because it is further, using more fuel and time, they will continue to go through Preston as usual.
[quote][p][bold]siratb[/bold] wrote: I live in Preston and I want a roundabout there to a) stop idiots flying round Overcoombe corner and mowing down a child and b) make it easier to get into and out of Bowleaze without having to wait for a gap in the traffic. . The idea is to encourage "larger" traffic to travel down the bypass and not through Preston...seems like a good idea to me. . By the way I voted for this scheme on the dorsetforyou website, where everyone had the opportunity to vote and comment........[/p][/quote]How many children have been knocked down there so far ? Please justify your assumption . No it will not make larger vehicle use the by-pass, because it is further, using more fuel and time, they will continue to go through Preston as usual. I'mavoter
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10:01pm Fri 19 Apr 13

droverles says...

siratb wrote:

I live in Preston and I want a roundabout there to a) stop idiots flying round Overcoombe corner and mowing down a child and b) make it easier to get into and out of Bowleaze without having to wait for a gap in the traffic.
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The idea is to encourage "larger" traffic to travel down the bypass and not through Preston...seems like a good idea to me.
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By the way I voted for this scheme on the dorsetforyou website, where everyone had the opportunity to vote and comment........

So - having a roundabout on Overcombe (NOT Overcoombe) corner means that you don't have to wait "for a gap in the traffic", does it?

You infer that having a roundabout means that whatever the traffic conditions, you have the right of way - you don't.

As far as I know, with over sixty years of living locally, there has never been a child "mowed down" at this junction.

Regarding the "dorsetforyou" website where you say that you voted for the roundabout, how many voted for and how many voted against the proposal? Where else could the public cast their vote if they didn't have internet access?

Perhaps, not as democratic as you think!
siratb wrote: I live in Preston and I want a roundabout there to a) stop idiots flying round Overcoombe corner and mowing down a child and b) make it easier to get into and out of Bowleaze without having to wait for a gap in the traffic. . The idea is to encourage "larger" traffic to travel down the bypass and not through Preston...seems like a good idea to me. . By the way I voted for this scheme on the dorsetforyou website, where everyone had the opportunity to vote and comment........ So - having a roundabout on Overcombe (NOT Overcoombe) corner means that you don't have to wait "for a gap in the traffic", does it? You infer that having a roundabout means that whatever the traffic conditions, you have the right of way - you don't. As far as I know, with over sixty years of living locally, there has never been a child "mowed down" at this junction. Regarding the "dorsetforyou" website where you say that you voted for the roundabout, how many voted for and how many voted against the proposal? Where else could the public cast their vote if they didn't have internet access? Perhaps, not as democratic as you think! droverles
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10:26pm Fri 19 Apr 13

CharlieBarley says...

I think the headline is a bit misleading. The whole project might be costing £100,000 but painting of the roundabout should cost no more than about £200.
I think the headline is a bit misleading. The whole project might be costing £100,000 but painting of the roundabout should cost no more than about £200. CharlieBarley
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10:49pm Fri 19 Apr 13

droverles says...

CharlieBarley says...
10:26pm Fri 19 Apr 13

I think the headline is a bit misleading. The whole project might be costing £100,000 but painting of the roundabout should cost no more than about £200.”

OK, so the rest of the unnecessary work cost £99,800, did it?

That really makes it worthwhile, doesn't it?
CharlieBarley says... 10:26pm Fri 19 Apr 13 I think the headline is a bit misleading. The whole project might be costing £100,000 but painting of the roundabout should cost no more than about £200.” OK, so the rest of the unnecessary work cost £99,800, did it? That really makes it worthwhile, doesn't it? droverles
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10:56pm Fri 19 Apr 13

weymouthmikeyj2 says...

I feel I have to respond to the comments made by Coun Ian Bruce. 1. You branded the roundabout a "waste of money", but that is your opinion. I feel a roundabout is and remains a much needed improvement for a difficult junction to try and exit, especially during the summer months and at peak times.

2. Have you never driven outside of Weymouth before? The reason the roundabout is painted on is because, guess...... you can drive over it! That is the point of it being painted, otherwise a fixed roundabout would been installed!

3. Are you proposing that that even more money is spent reducing a painted roundabout when vehicles can easily drive over it? That Coun Bruce really is a waste of money.

Check your priorities please!
I feel I have to respond to the comments made by Coun Ian Bruce. 1. You branded the roundabout a "waste of money", but that is your opinion. I feel a roundabout is and remains a much needed improvement for a difficult junction to try and exit, especially during the summer months and at peak times. 2. Have you never driven outside of Weymouth before? The reason the roundabout is painted on is because, guess...... you can drive over it! That is the point of it being painted, otherwise a fixed roundabout would been installed! 3. Are you proposing that that even more money is spent reducing a painted roundabout when vehicles can easily drive over it? That Coun Bruce really is a waste of money. Check your priorities please! weymouthmikeyj2
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8:02am Sat 20 Apr 13

siratb says...

Well in answer to those that moan about children NOT being knocked down at that corner....yes you are right, but I don't want to see one.
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But very recently we had a car back end a parked car, pushing it onto the pavement and through a wall, and I believe this injured a pedestrian. I also distinctly remember other accidents at this corner due to excessive speed. Had the roundabout been there then likely this would not have happened as the roundabout will curb the speed automatically (changing speed limits on Preston Beach road won't work as it relies on people following the speed limits).
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Having the roundabout there does not give someone coming out from Bowleaze right of way, but it makes it easier to slot into traffic, than fighting for a gap between fast moving traffic from the Beach road.
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The whole package of traffic calming measures along Preston road will likely encourage people to use the bypass. I now use the bypass to get to Dorchester, before I always used to use Coombe Valley Road. Reason, it is quicker and less hassle, I can get to Tesco on 8 minutes at the speed limit. Certainly lorries delivering to town will be more likely to go via the bypass.
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My only complaint is that the roundabout should be like the one at Chalbury corner - I.e. a physical roundabout rather than just a painted circle, but otherwise I am happy with it. Well done DCC !
Well in answer to those that moan about children NOT being knocked down at that corner....yes you are right, but I don't want to see one. . But very recently we had a car back end a parked car, pushing it onto the pavement and through a wall, and I believe this injured a pedestrian. I also distinctly remember other accidents at this corner due to excessive speed. Had the roundabout been there then likely this would not have happened as the roundabout will curb the speed automatically (changing speed limits on Preston Beach road won't work as it relies on people following the speed limits). . Having the roundabout there does not give someone coming out from Bowleaze right of way, but it makes it easier to slot into traffic, than fighting for a gap between fast moving traffic from the Beach road. . The whole package of traffic calming measures along Preston road will likely encourage people to use the bypass. I now use the bypass to get to Dorchester, before I always used to use Coombe Valley Road. Reason, it is quicker and less hassle, I can get to Tesco on 8 minutes at the speed limit. Certainly lorries delivering to town will be more likely to go via the bypass. . My only complaint is that the roundabout should be like the one at Chalbury corner - I.e. a physical roundabout rather than just a painted circle, but otherwise I am happy with it. Well done DCC ! siratb
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8:37am Sat 20 Apr 13

annotator1 says...

niceonecyril wrote:
There is no reason whatsoever why that car in the picture is breaking the law!. From that picture it certainly looks like you could easily obey the law and use the roundabout as stated in the highway code. Oh wait a minute the laws that apply to the rest of the country don't apply to Weymouth drivers, and lets be fair going over it will save 3/10s of a second which is important in the lives of you high flyers!
You negotiate the White Elephant first and then comment.
The picture is not showing the kerb stone that will take out your suspension if you hit it at the wrong angle!
[quote][p][bold]niceonecyril[/bold] wrote: There is no reason whatsoever why that car in the picture is breaking the law!. From that picture it certainly looks like you could easily obey the law and use the roundabout as stated in the highway code. Oh wait a minute the laws that apply to the rest of the country don't apply to Weymouth drivers, and lets be fair going over it will save 3/10s of a second which is important in the lives of you high flyers![/p][/quote]You negotiate the White Elephant first and then comment. The picture is not showing the kerb stone that will take out your suspension if you hit it at the wrong angle! annotator1
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10:35am Sat 20 Apr 13

Mustn'tGrumble says...

Isn't it better to wait until a road improvement scheme is finished before slamming it. The decision making process between Borough, County Council, highway engineers and elected members has been gone through and the works determined.
Sounds like a lot of sensationalism and electioneering to me.
Having used the temporary traffic management layout already it looks like the final works including revised roadmarkings will be a success.
Isn't it better to wait until a road improvement scheme is finished before slamming it. The decision making process between Borough, County Council, highway engineers and elected members has been gone through and the works determined. Sounds like a lot of sensationalism and electioneering to me. Having used the temporary traffic management layout already it looks like the final works including revised roadmarkings will be a success. Mustn'tGrumble
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10:58am Sat 20 Apr 13

portlandresident says...

The amazing amount of incompetence is totally beyond whatever I could imagine. Only in Weymouth could you have this amount of poor decisions, mistakes and errors. I'm ashamed to live here sometimes. Why can't those responsible get it right for a change?
The amazing amount of incompetence is totally beyond whatever I could imagine. Only in Weymouth could you have this amount of poor decisions, mistakes and errors. I'm ashamed to live here sometimes. Why can't those responsible get it right for a change? portlandresident
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3:56pm Sat 20 Apr 13

lets be fair! says...

If the junction is due to be resurfaced next month why didn't they wait until then to do the roundabout ?
Like captain sensible said "Utter morons" I for one will not be voting for any one of this shower that are already on the council be it county or borough!
If the junction is due to be resurfaced next month why didn't they wait until then to do the roundabout ? Like captain sensible said "Utter morons" I for one will not be voting for any one of this shower that are already on the council be it county or borough! lets be fair!
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4:06pm Sat 20 Apr 13

PUZZLED ONE says...

lets be fair!
The councillors are 'supposed' to be in charge of the council business but they seem to let the incompetent staff do what they like.
It doesn't seem to matter for whom we vote - they only seem to be there for the allowances and their little moments of 'glory' when they are mentioned or get their pictures in the papers.
lets be fair! The councillors are 'supposed' to be in charge of the council business but they seem to let the incompetent staff do what they like. It doesn't seem to matter for whom we vote - they only seem to be there for the allowances and their little moments of 'glory' when they are mentioned or get their pictures in the papers. PUZZLED ONE
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9:15pm Sat 20 Apr 13

VaguelyPurple says...

Weymouth & Portland Borough Council may be the most incompetent local authority in the history of the civilised world, but hey! they've found a mistake by their colleagues at Dorset County Council that they can laugh at! Is this childishness the way that they try to make themselves feel better about the absolute shambles of everything they touch?
Well, it's not the only way, of course. They also tweet moronic sentiments about staff in coffee shops.
Weymouth & Portland Borough Council may be the most incompetent local authority in the history of the civilised world, but hey! they've found a mistake by their colleagues at Dorset County Council that they can laugh at! Is this childishness the way that they try to make themselves feel better about the absolute shambles of everything they touch? Well, it's not the only way, of course. They also tweet moronic sentiments about staff in coffee shops. VaguelyPurple
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4:39am Sun 21 Apr 13

EtaoinShrdlu says...

Nice photo but where is the mandatory stern looking policeman? Was he on a day off? We get the councillors we deserve, but do we deserve the muppets who lurk in the council offices all round the county waiting for the annual pay rise and the fat pensions?
Nice photo but where is the mandatory stern looking policeman? Was he on a day off? We get the councillors we deserve, but do we deserve the muppets who lurk in the council offices all round the county waiting for the annual pay rise and the fat pensions? EtaoinShrdlu
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8:41am Sun 21 Apr 13

Billy1mate says...

It is painted so it can be driven over, by that rational does it really matter what diameter it is? If Preston rd was resurfaced next month then Overcombe corner dug up to to do this current work everyone would be spitting more feathers than they already are, it has to happen this way. What maybe they should have done, was do the kerbs etc and paint all of the road markings after the road was resurfaced.
It is painted so it can be driven over, by that rational does it really matter what diameter it is? If Preston rd was resurfaced next month then Overcombe corner dug up to to do this current work everyone would be spitting more feathers than they already are, it has to happen this way. What maybe they should have done, was do the kerbs etc and paint all of the road markings after the road was resurfaced. Billy1mate
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9:12am Sun 21 Apr 13

randomperson says...

For 100k, if anything, it needs to be made even bigger, not smaller. That truly would be a waste of taxpayer's money. 400m should do it. It's only going be driven over anyway.
For 100k, if anything, it needs to be made even bigger, not smaller. That truly would be a waste of taxpayer's money. 400m should do it. It's only going be driven over anyway. randomperson
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5:11pm Sun 21 Apr 13

weypaul says...

The roundabot has to be that large as there is going to be a statue of Gary Shaw and Bedpans on it
The roundabot has to be that large as there is going to be a statue of Gary Shaw and Bedpans on it weypaul
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8:06pm Sun 21 Apr 13

HotBeaver1 says...

I drove around this roundabout for the first time today... can't say it forced me to drive over the (yes... it is titanium... well titanium dioxide at least... plus some other muck to make it stick) paint or wreck my suspension on the kerb. All at 30mph.
As far as I can see it will only cause issues for traffic flow (aside from those Weymouth-ites who seem to have trouble with steering) at the end of summer days when there is a lot of traffic leaving town and also a lot coming down from Bowleaze... when the Bowleaze traffic will have priority over traffic leaving town - whereas before they would have to wait for a gap.
I drove around this roundabout for the first time today... can't say it forced me to drive over the (yes... it is titanium... well titanium dioxide at least... plus some other muck to make it stick) paint or wreck my suspension on the kerb. All at 30mph. As far as I can see it will only cause issues for traffic flow (aside from those Weymouth-ites who seem to have trouble with steering) at the end of summer days when there is a lot of traffic leaving town and also a lot coming down from Bowleaze... when the Bowleaze traffic will have priority over traffic leaving town - whereas before they would have to wait for a gap. HotBeaver1
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10:06pm Sun 21 Apr 13

PUZZLED ONE says...

HotBeaver1
We can but wait and see whether there will be queuing along the beach road back to King Street as it used to be pre-bypass (:o))
HotBeaver1 We can but wait and see whether there will be queuing along the beach road back to King Street as it used to be pre-bypass (:o)) PUZZLED ONE
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10:19am Mon 22 Apr 13

The Fish says...

Surely the best solution would be to make Preston Beach road from the current junction with Overcombe to the junction with the tip a bus route only - this will then force all cars/lorries down the relief road, no need for a roundabout as the traffic will be considerably reduced, simples really.
Surely the best solution would be to make Preston Beach road from the current junction with Overcombe to the junction with the tip a bus route only - this will then force all cars/lorries down the relief road, no need for a roundabout as the traffic will be considerably reduced, simples really. The Fish
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3:15pm Mon 22 Apr 13

Mr irate says...

I'm concerned this will slow down the normal fast drivers on the road. Tell me who hasn't driven like a nutter down that road heading out of the town centre late at night at well over twice the recommended speed limit ??
I'm concerned this will slow down the normal fast drivers on the road. Tell me who hasn't driven like a nutter down that road heading out of the town centre late at night at well over twice the recommended speed limit ?? Mr irate
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8:02am Tue 23 Apr 13

peskykat says...

Surely a child or an OAP getting down down as the resident of overcombe corner mention is down to a drivers skills behind the wheel and not a roundabout , there is always going to be dangerous drivers who think nothing about the pedestrains etc, i am getting so tired of continuely seeing drivers on their mobiles, or feel the speed limit is not there for them ,etc , once those dangerous drivers are off the road then the the traffic system will be a better place regardless of roundabouts or traffic lights etc, but that is never going to happen not in my lifetime anyway
Surely a child or an OAP getting down down as the resident of overcombe corner mention is down to a drivers skills behind the wheel and not a roundabout , there is always going to be dangerous drivers who think nothing about the pedestrains etc, i am getting so tired of continuely seeing drivers on their mobiles, or feel the speed limit is not there for them ,etc , once those dangerous drivers are off the road then the the traffic system will be a better place regardless of roundabouts or traffic lights etc, but that is never going to happen not in my lifetime anyway peskykat
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10:03pm Tue 23 Apr 13

cj07589 says...

niceonecyril wrote:
There is no reason whatsoever why that car in the picture is breaking the law!. From that picture it certainly looks like you could easily obey the law and use the roundabout as stated in the highway code. Oh wait a minute the laws that apply to the rest of the country don't apply to Weymouth drivers, and lets be fair going over it will save 3/10s of a second which is important in the lives of you high flyers!
Settle down Cecil have you taken your meds?
[quote][p][bold]niceonecyril[/bold] wrote: There is no reason whatsoever why that car in the picture is breaking the law!. From that picture it certainly looks like you could easily obey the law and use the roundabout as stated in the highway code. Oh wait a minute the laws that apply to the rest of the country don't apply to Weymouth drivers, and lets be fair going over it will save 3/10s of a second which is important in the lives of you high flyers![/p][/quote]Settle down Cecil have you taken your meds? cj07589
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10:04pm Tue 23 Apr 13

cj07589 says...

Caption Sensible wrote:
Complete and utter morons.

Don't forget to vote in May...
Best advice I've read so far!
[quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: Complete and utter morons. Don't forget to vote in May...[/p][/quote]Best advice I've read so far! cj07589
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2:19pm Wed 24 Apr 13

Lucy Lastick says...

The painting contractor probably doesn't know the difference between 'radius' and 'diameter', hence it being twice the intended size.
The painting contractor probably doesn't know the difference between 'radius' and 'diameter', hence it being twice the intended size. Lucy Lastick
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3:45pm Wed 24 Apr 13

sandman223 says...

siratb wrote:
I live in Preston and I want a roundabout there to a) stop idiots flying round Overcoombe corner and mowing down a child and b) make it easier to get into and out of Bowleaze without having to wait for a gap in the traffic.
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The idea is to encourage "larger" traffic to travel down the bypass and not through Preston...seems like a good idea to me.
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By the way I voted for this scheme on the dorsetforyou website, where everyone had the opportunity to vote and comment........
You are joking arent you?? Stop idiots flying round overcombe corner? When the traffic in the summer along this road is at a standstill most of the time due to levels of traffic? Getting in and out of bowleaze cove? this is no worse than any other junction in Weymouth.

There is absolutely no need for a roundabout here, there was no problem with the original set up.

I cant believe whoever made this decision is still allowed to work, this is a waste of the taxpayers money, yet again!
[quote][p][bold]siratb[/bold] wrote: I live in Preston and I want a roundabout there to a) stop idiots flying round Overcoombe corner and mowing down a child and b) make it easier to get into and out of Bowleaze without having to wait for a gap in the traffic. . The idea is to encourage "larger" traffic to travel down the bypass and not through Preston...seems like a good idea to me. . By the way I voted for this scheme on the dorsetforyou website, where everyone had the opportunity to vote and comment........[/p][/quote]You are joking arent you?? Stop idiots flying round overcombe corner? When the traffic in the summer along this road is at a standstill most of the time due to levels of traffic? Getting in and out of bowleaze cove? this is no worse than any other junction in Weymouth. There is absolutely no need for a roundabout here, there was no problem with the original set up. I cant believe whoever made this decision is still allowed to work, this is a waste of the taxpayers money, yet again! sandman223
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8:38am Thu 25 Apr 13

Phaedrus says...

siratb: As to whether the roundabout is a good idea we must agree to differ and I appreciate your viewpoint, but it is still the case that coming from Weymouth the 30mph signs need to be moved back and made more visible. The one on the left is obscured by a post until one is quite close, there is a 50mph repeater not long before it, that on the right is often obscured by traffic, and the signs are the minimum size.
siratb: As to whether the roundabout is a good idea we must agree to differ and I appreciate your viewpoint, but it is still the case that coming from Weymouth the 30mph signs need to be moved back and made more visible. The one on the left is obscured by a post until one is quite close, there is a 50mph repeater not long before it, that on the right is often obscured by traffic, and the signs are the minimum size. Phaedrus
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