Changes announced to Weymouth's under-fire traffic system

Dorset Echo: PLEASED: Ken Whatley PLEASED: Ken Whatley

COUNCIL chiefs are to make changes to Weymouth’s traffic system after concerns were raised by residents.

Dorset County Council is to make alterations to the layout at the controversial Asda junction and conduct investigations to improve traffic flow on the Esplanade when Condor Ferries’ passengers disembark.

The sequencing of lights at the Asda junction and up Boot Hill will also be re-examined, signage improved at key points and a hatched yellow box painted at the junction of King Street and Queen Street to stop it becoming blocked.

The changes were announced at a meeting between senior council figures and Weymouth residents Ken Whatley and Dave Burchill.

They had been invited to County Hall for a follow-up meeting after initial discussions earlier in the autumn.

Mr Whatley had led calls for a public meeting on the issue amid growing concerns the traffic system wasn’t working or that at least aspects needed changing.

Mr Whatley said he was ‘very pleased’ that concerns had been listened to.

The Weymouth Transport Package, which saw roundabouts at central points replaced with traffic light-controlled junctions, was laid out in 2010-11 as DCC looked to improve traffic flows in the run-up to the Olympics.

Miles Butler, the county council’s director for environment, said: “Mr Whately and Mr Burchill have raised some very valid points. Some of which we will be able to address. There are some problems that require a change in drivers’ behaviour and that will take time. In this case we will make sure that signage is clear and where possible promote alternative routes.”

He added: “Managing traffic lights throughout the system is a balancing act. Changes in one area can significantly affect another part, so we have to be careful when modifications are implemented. A balance has also to be maintained to ensure that pedestrians, drivers and other road users aren’t disadvantaged to any great extent."

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2:20pm Thu 12 Dec 13

jamie-c says...

about bloody time
about bloody time jamie-c

3:17pm Thu 12 Dec 13

scubadude says...

Not entirely happy with the council pandering to the lowest common denominator at our expense- why should I pay because the lowest part of the bell-curve shout loudly?.... that said- they should have got it right first time, frankly its just embarrassing to see so much our our money wasted.
No doubt these changes will make at least one part worse and yet more knuckle draggers will complain!
Not entirely happy with the council pandering to the lowest common denominator at our expense- why should I pay because the lowest part of the bell-curve shout loudly?.... that said- they should have got it right first time, frankly its just embarrassing to see so much our our money wasted. No doubt these changes will make at least one part worse and yet more knuckle draggers will complain! scubadude

3:44pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Dave Aitch says...

Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't some group or other receive an award for the new ( for the Olympics ) traffic plan/layout ?
Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't some group or other receive an award for the new ( for the Olympics ) traffic plan/layout ? Dave Aitch

3:46pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Wykewize says...

Sounds as if they may have listened but only time will tell if whatever is done will be better let alone work!/
Sounds as if they may have listened but only time will tell if whatever is done will be better let alone work!/ Wykewize

3:51pm Thu 12 Dec 13

February1948 says...

Why not just revert to roundabouts - they don't need phasing (hope I've spelt that correctly!).
Why not just revert to roundabouts - they don't need phasing (hope I've spelt that correctly!). February1948

4:44pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Altview says...

It seems from the councils comments about 'phasing' the traffic lights there is a tacit admission that the much hyped 'intelligent reactive control system' either does not work or simply doesn't exist.
It seems from the councils comments about 'phasing' the traffic lights there is a tacit admission that the much hyped 'intelligent reactive control system' either does not work or simply doesn't exist. Altview

5:07pm Thu 12 Dec 13

weymouthfox says...

Millions were wasted by Dorset County Council over two years in making a mess of Weymouth's traffic system, designed by Matthew Piles- who coincidentally is now Head of Roads at Dorset County Council! So look out for lots of reassurance that drivers are to blame and the problems will be cured by painting a yellow box on the road!
Millions were wasted by Dorset County Council over two years in making a mess of Weymouth's traffic system, designed by Matthew Piles- who coincidentally is now Head of Roads at Dorset County Council! So look out for lots of reassurance that drivers are to blame and the problems will be cured by painting a yellow box on the road! weymouthfox

5:42pm Thu 12 Dec 13

arlbergbahn says...

"Dorset County Council is to ... conduct investigations to improve traffic flow on the Esplanade when Condor Ferries’ passengers disembark."
Well, woop. That's one sailing a day, even in the peak season, which arrives at about midnight. How about conducting investigations into the congestion that's there all the time in summer and the school holidays?
"Dorset County Council is to ... conduct investigations to improve traffic flow on the Esplanade when Condor Ferries’ passengers disembark." Well, woop. That's one sailing a day, even in the peak season, which arrives at about midnight. How about conducting investigations into the congestion that's there all the time in summer and the school holidays? arlbergbahn

5:45pm Thu 12 Dec 13

arlbergbahn says...

scubadude wrote:
Not entirely happy with the council pandering to the lowest common denominator at our expense- why should I pay because the lowest part of the bell-curve shout loudly?.... that said- they should have got it right first time, frankly its just embarrassing to see so much our our money wasted.
No doubt these changes will make at least one part worse and yet more knuckle draggers will complain!
So people who've complained about this are the lowest common denominator knuckle draggers, are they? Just because you seem inexplicably satisfied about it, everyone who isn't satisfied about it is wrong and you are the only one who is right?
[quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: Not entirely happy with the council pandering to the lowest common denominator at our expense- why should I pay because the lowest part of the bell-curve shout loudly?.... that said- they should have got it right first time, frankly its just embarrassing to see so much our our money wasted. No doubt these changes will make at least one part worse and yet more knuckle draggers will complain![/p][/quote]So people who've complained about this are the lowest common denominator knuckle draggers, are they? Just because you seem inexplicably satisfied about it, everyone who isn't satisfied about it is wrong and you are the only one who is right? arlbergbahn

5:46pm Thu 12 Dec 13

arlbergbahn says...

Dave Aitch wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't some group or other receive an award for the new ( for the Olympics ) traffic plan/layout ?
I think that was Dorset County Council, congratulating themselves in a report they carried out themselves and sent to the Government to show them how successful their idea had been.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Aitch[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't some group or other receive an award for the new ( for the Olympics ) traffic plan/layout ?[/p][/quote]I think that was Dorset County Council, congratulating themselves in a report they carried out themselves and sent to the Government to show them how successful their idea had been. arlbergbahn

6:49pm Thu 12 Dec 13

jacarwilson says...

What would be nice would being able to turn left onto Ranelagh Road at the lights going up King Street, and to be able to turn right by the clock onto the Esplanade!
What would be nice would being able to turn left onto Ranelagh Road at the lights going up King Street, and to be able to turn right by the clock onto the Esplanade! jacarwilson

7:02pm Thu 12 Dec 13

rjimmer says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
scubadude wrote:
Not entirely happy with the council pandering to the lowest common denominator at our expense- why should I pay because the lowest part of the bell-curve shout loudly?.... that said- they should have got it right first time, frankly its just embarrassing to see so much our our money wasted.
No doubt these changes will make at least one part worse and yet more knuckle draggers will complain!
So people who've complained about this are the lowest common denominator knuckle draggers, are they? Just because you seem inexplicably satisfied about it, everyone who isn't satisfied about it is wrong and you are the only one who is right?
Lunatic asylums are full of people who think everyone else is wrong/daft.
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: Not entirely happy with the council pandering to the lowest common denominator at our expense- why should I pay because the lowest part of the bell-curve shout loudly?.... that said- they should have got it right first time, frankly its just embarrassing to see so much our our money wasted. No doubt these changes will make at least one part worse and yet more knuckle draggers will complain![/p][/quote]So people who've complained about this are the lowest common denominator knuckle draggers, are they? Just because you seem inexplicably satisfied about it, everyone who isn't satisfied about it is wrong and you are the only one who is right?[/p][/quote]Lunatic asylums are full of people who think everyone else is wrong/daft. rjimmer

7:04pm Thu 12 Dec 13

rjimmer says...

"There are some problems that require a change in drivers’ behaviour and that will take time." @@@@@@ And if these people are only in Weymouth for a week's holiday?
"There are some problems that require a change in drivers’ behaviour and that will take time." @@@@@@ And if these people are only in Weymouth for a week's holiday? rjimmer

7:18pm Thu 12 Dec 13

FrancisKing says...

jacarwilson wrote:
What would be nice would being able to turn left onto Ranelagh Road at the lights going up King Street, and to be able to turn right by the clock onto the Esplanade!
By making some movements impossible, the traffic signals become more efficient. Turning right at the Esplanade would require another sequence of lights, which would slow everyone else down. Banning left turns means that pedestrian signals can be better integrated with the car movements.
[quote][p][bold]jacarwilson[/bold] wrote: What would be nice would being able to turn left onto Ranelagh Road at the lights going up King Street, and to be able to turn right by the clock onto the Esplanade![/p][/quote]By making some movements impossible, the traffic signals become more efficient. Turning right at the Esplanade would require another sequence of lights, which would slow everyone else down. Banning left turns means that pedestrian signals can be better integrated with the car movements. FrancisKing

8:24pm Thu 12 Dec 13

I'mavoter says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
"Dorset County Council is to ... conduct investigations to improve traffic flow on the Esplanade when Condor Ferries’ passengers disembark."
Well, woop. That's one sailing a day, even in the peak season, which arrives at about midnight. How about conducting investigations into the congestion that's there all the time in summer and the school holidays?
To be fair though, this does usually involve several hundred cars coming off the ferry, plus, taxis, friends meeting people with their cars, etc etc.
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: "Dorset County Council is to ... conduct investigations to improve traffic flow on the Esplanade when Condor Ferries’ passengers disembark." Well, woop. That's one sailing a day, even in the peak season, which arrives at about midnight. How about conducting investigations into the congestion that's there all the time in summer and the school holidays?[/p][/quote]To be fair though, this does usually involve several hundred cars coming off the ferry, plus, taxis, friends meeting people with their cars, etc etc. I'mavoter

8:30pm Thu 12 Dec 13

I'mavoter says...

scubadude wrote:
Not entirely happy with the council pandering to the lowest common denominator at our expense- why should I pay because the lowest part of the bell-curve shout loudly?.... that said- they should have got it right first time, frankly its just embarrassing to see so much our our money wasted.
No doubt these changes will make at least one part worse and yet more knuckle draggers will complain!
Love your positive attitude ! So, are you saying then, that no improvement are required, or that you don't want them ?
I didn't want blooming cycle lane put everywhere , which very few people actually use, and I also contributed towards the cost of.... But whatever work is done in the County , we all pay towards in one way or another.
[quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: Not entirely happy with the council pandering to the lowest common denominator at our expense- why should I pay because the lowest part of the bell-curve shout loudly?.... that said- they should have got it right first time, frankly its just embarrassing to see so much our our money wasted. No doubt these changes will make at least one part worse and yet more knuckle draggers will complain![/p][/quote]Love your positive attitude ! So, are you saying then, that no improvement are required, or that you don't want them ? I didn't want blooming cycle lane put everywhere , which very few people actually use, and I also contributed towards the cost of.... But whatever work is done in the County , we all pay towards in one way or another. I'mavoter

8:49pm Thu 12 Dec 13

ksmain says...

Hey congratulations!

That should move the queues to another part of Weymouth until someone complains and they are asked to change them again.

Are Weymouth Council going to do anything about people's bad driving as this seems to be one of the major causes of the problem?
Hey congratulations! That should move the queues to another part of Weymouth until someone complains and they are asked to change them again. Are Weymouth Council going to do anything about people's bad driving as this seems to be one of the major causes of the problem? ksmain

1:46pm Fri 13 Dec 13

wurzelbasher says...

Anything they do could be risky, they're such a bunch of amateurs!
Anything they do could be risky, they're such a bunch of amateurs! wurzelbasher

5:09pm Fri 13 Dec 13

birken says...

Can somebody tell me why Belgium - Holland-Germany etc.are all REPLACING their traffic lights with roundabouts because it eases congestion and improves traffic flow and Weymouth do vice versa.!!!!!!!
Can somebody tell me why Belgium - Holland-Germany etc.are all REPLACING their traffic lights with roundabouts because it eases congestion and improves traffic flow and Weymouth do vice versa.!!!!!!! birken

9:00pm Fri 13 Dec 13

IDONTKNOWIFITISTRRUE says...

Perhaps you have all forgotten that the reason for the lights was so that coe n cronies could change them to green in their favour as they 'swep past us plebs' during the olymprics.
Perhaps you have all forgotten that the reason for the lights was so that coe n cronies could change them to green in their favour as they 'swep past us plebs' during the olymprics. IDONTKNOWIFITISTRRUE

5:05pm Mon 16 Dec 13

mark@greenhill says...

FrancisKing wrote:
jacarwilson wrote:
What would be nice would being able to turn left onto Ranelagh Road at the lights going up King Street, and to be able to turn right by the clock onto the Esplanade!
By making some movements impossible, the traffic signals become more efficient. Turning right at the Esplanade would require another sequence of lights, which would slow everyone else down. Banning left turns means that pedestrian signals can be better integrated with the car movements.
Ah, so this is the most efficient system is it?

Silly me, I like the majority of actual users of the roads, think the designers got it wrong.

But what on earth would we know, we don't have letters after our name.

As usual, the designers think that only they can be correct, and that the thousands of people that complain must all be ignorant yokels.

The ban on turns all over the town, is simply the designers way of forcing us to use a system that was wrong to begin with. It's a very blunt instrument to solve a problem that they created.
[quote][p][bold]FrancisKing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jacarwilson[/bold] wrote: What would be nice would being able to turn left onto Ranelagh Road at the lights going up King Street, and to be able to turn right by the clock onto the Esplanade![/p][/quote]By making some movements impossible, the traffic signals become more efficient. Turning right at the Esplanade would require another sequence of lights, which would slow everyone else down. Banning left turns means that pedestrian signals can be better integrated with the car movements.[/p][/quote]Ah, so this is the most efficient system is it? Silly me, I like the majority of actual users of the roads, think the designers got it wrong. But what on earth would we know, we don't have letters after our name. As usual, the designers think that only they can be correct, and that the thousands of people that complain must all be ignorant yokels. The ban on turns all over the town, is simply the designers way of forcing us to use a system that was wrong to begin with. It's a very blunt instrument to solve a problem that they created. mark@greenhill

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