Weymouth rail passengers slam 'unfair fare hikes'

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RAIL passengers are set for travel misery as fares increase this month.

Commuters will be paying more as the cost of tickets rises by three per cent.

It is the lowest increase in four years after Chancellor George Osborne capped the rise to the rate of inflation.

Passengers at Weymouth train station said the move will affect people using rail services regularly.

Lee Guillemer, from Weymouth, travels to Parkstone for a course twice a week.

He said: “They do run a good service but even though it doesn’t sound like much, it will add up through the year.”

Pauline Kemp, from Wareham, said: “If fares were going up in proportion to wages it would not be so bad but everything else is stagnant, so it doesn’t really seem fair.”

Malcolm Lewis, from Lincolnshire, added: “Luckily I do not commute so for me it won’t be a lot.

“But for people having to use it every day, I imagine it is very annoying.”

Jane Burnet, of the South and West Dorset Green Party, said: “It’s for reasons like this that we think the rail services should be brought back into public ownership.

“After what happened to the buses in Dorset it is yet again the people who are more vulnerable and have no choice but to use public transport who are going to be the hardest hit.”

Weymouth to Waterloo operator South West Trains said the three per cent will mean passengers will be paying an average of 13p more on every journey.

Managing director of the South West Trains-Network Rail Alliance Tim Shoveller said: “We are investing fares directly in initiatives that will provide passengers with easier, more punctual and more comfortable journeys.”

He added: “Across the rail industry we are also working hard to get more for every pound we spend, giving the government the scope to hold down fares in future years should it choose to do so.”

The company said that fares help to fund improvements to the service as well as paying for the day-to-day running of the network.

A spokesman said that £65million has been spent on 108 refurbished train carriages this winter to provide more room for passengers.

Weymouth to Bristol line operator First Great Western welcomed the move to cap the fare increase.

Managing director Mark Hopwood said: “We welcome the government’s decision to peg regulated fares to inflation, which will also be appreciated by our customers.

“A consequence of this announcement is that all of our fares for travel after January 2, 2014, had to be recalculated, checked and inputted into the industry fares systems in much less time than it would normally take.

“We will be working around the clock to make that happen.”

Rail minister Stephen Hammond said: “We made extra money available so fares did not rise above the inflation rate. We are a government that is protecting the consumer today and investing in the future.”

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8:13am Fri 3 Jan 14

cj07589 says...

The worst most unreliable and expensive train service on planet earth. Renationalisation is the only solution soon people won't be able to afford to go to work.
The worst most unreliable and expensive train service on planet earth. Renationalisation is the only solution soon people won't be able to afford to go to work. cj07589

10:03am Fri 3 Jan 14

arlbergbahn says...

cj07589 wrote:
The worst most unreliable and expensive train service on planet earth. Renationalisation is the only solution soon people won't be able to afford to go to work.
A magnificent example of blindness due to political dogma. There must be a medical name for it. You might be surprised at at some of the stories that emanate from, say France or Germany, where performance is often much worse, fares are complained about as much as they are everywhere, and people could tell you all sorts of anecdotes about indifferent service and unhelpful staff. Given the history of the ability of any British government in recorded history to run anything competently, where on earth do you get the idea from that nationalisation would lead to a blissful and beautiful tomorrow?
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: The worst most unreliable and expensive train service on planet earth. Renationalisation is the only solution soon people won't be able to afford to go to work.[/p][/quote]A magnificent example of blindness due to political dogma. There must be a medical name for it. You might be surprised at at some of the stories that emanate from, say France or Germany, where performance is often much worse, fares are complained about as much as they are everywhere, and people could tell you all sorts of anecdotes about indifferent service and unhelpful staff. Given the history of the ability of any British government in recorded history to run anything competently, where on earth do you get the idea from that nationalisation would lead to a blissful and beautiful tomorrow? arlbergbahn

10:24am Fri 3 Jan 14

martaaay2 says...

44p increase for anyone who commutes to Bournemouth, will take it over £15 per day return after this rise.

Malcolm Lewis, from Lincolnshire, added: “Luckily I do not commute so for me it won’t be a lot.“ -
Another classic echo quote
44p increase for anyone who commutes to Bournemouth, will take it over £15 per day return after this rise. Malcolm Lewis, from Lincolnshire, added: “Luckily I do not commute so for me it won’t be a lot.“ - Another classic echo quote martaaay2

10:42am Fri 3 Jan 14

cj07589 says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
The worst most unreliable and expensive train service on planet earth. Renationalisation is the only solution soon people won't be able to afford to go to work.
A magnificent example of blindness due to political dogma. There must be a medical name for it. You might be surprised at at some of the stories that emanate from, say France or Germany, where performance is often much worse, fares are complained about as much as they are everywhere, and people could tell you all sorts of anecdotes about indifferent service and unhelpful staff. Given the history of the ability of any British government in recorded history to run anything competently, where on earth do you get the idea from that nationalisation would lead to a blissful and beautiful tomorrow?
What on earth are you on about nationiised transport works perfectly well in Japan, China, HK, Thailand etc plus their trains are new, effective and dont cost a fortune!
I don’t imagine a nationalised railways system would be perfect, just significantly better. But privatisation has shown that private ownership does not in any way get rid of these things, which have increased since the sell-off. Thus they are not diseases of nationalisation. In general, the problems of the railways are caused by 80 or so years during which they have been starved of investment, which has been diverted to gigantically subsidised nationalised roads and to air transport, provided with airports and air traffic control by initial state spending, and vastly subsidised by being exempted from fuel tax . The government subsidy which is given to the railways (much of it now diverted into the trousers of the train operating companies) allows them to continue to operate, but not to expand in response to demand.
Furthermore there is no competition on the railways. I have no choice in which train I have to catch and I have to pay through the nose for the privilege of standing.
Some parts of infrastructure should not be in private hands. Railways, energy supply, water supply have all increased in price because they are run for shareholders, not customers.
Re-nationalisation is the only way forward and is in the best interests of a growing economy.
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: The worst most unreliable and expensive train service on planet earth. Renationalisation is the only solution soon people won't be able to afford to go to work.[/p][/quote]A magnificent example of blindness due to political dogma. There must be a medical name for it. You might be surprised at at some of the stories that emanate from, say France or Germany, where performance is often much worse, fares are complained about as much as they are everywhere, and people could tell you all sorts of anecdotes about indifferent service and unhelpful staff. Given the history of the ability of any British government in recorded history to run anything competently, where on earth do you get the idea from that nationalisation would lead to a blissful and beautiful tomorrow?[/p][/quote]What on earth are you on about nationiised transport works perfectly well in Japan, China, HK, Thailand etc plus their trains are new, effective and dont cost a fortune! I don’t imagine a nationalised railways system would be perfect, just significantly better. But privatisation has shown that private ownership does not in any way get rid of these things, which have increased since the sell-off. Thus they are not diseases of nationalisation. In general, the problems of the railways are caused by 80 or so years during which they have been starved of investment, which has been diverted to gigantically subsidised nationalised roads and to air transport, provided with airports and air traffic control by initial state spending, and vastly subsidised by being exempted from fuel tax . The government subsidy which is given to the railways (much of it now diverted into the trousers of the train operating companies) allows them to continue to operate, but not to expand in response to demand. Furthermore there is no competition on the railways. I have no choice in which train I have to catch and I have to pay through the nose for the privilege of standing. Some parts of infrastructure should not be in private hands. Railways, energy supply, water supply have all increased in price because they are run for shareholders, not customers. Re-nationalisation is the only way forward and is in the best interests of a growing economy. cj07589

11:01am Fri 3 Jan 14

cj07589 says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
The worst most unreliable and expensive train service on planet earth. Renationalisation is the only solution soon people won't be able to afford to go to work.
A magnificent example of blindness due to political dogma. There must be a medical name for it. You might be surprised at at some of the stories that emanate from, say France or Germany, where performance is often much worse, fares are complained about as much as they are everywhere, and people could tell you all sorts of anecdotes about indifferent service and unhelpful staff. Given the history of the ability of any British government in recorded history to run anything competently, where on earth do you get the idea from that nationalisation would lead to a blissful and beautiful tomorrow?
By the way its got nothing to do with political dogma it has everything to do with being a customer and commuter who has no other option but tho use the train system which wholly unfit for purpose. I spend over 12% of my income on a shoddy service where:
i/ You dont get a seat
ii/ The trains run late and are delayed more often then they are on-time.
iii/ Constant year on year inflation busting ticket increases with no improvement in service.

I concede that nationisation isnt perfect but i would not mind a standard of service that is commensurate with the cost. The current system is broken and discrimates against the hard working commuters who have no other choice. Ive just quit my job in the city because the train service is so abysmal, dangerously overcrowded and disfunctional and lucky found a local job and saved myself £6k pa.
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: The worst most unreliable and expensive train service on planet earth. Renationalisation is the only solution soon people won't be able to afford to go to work.[/p][/quote]A magnificent example of blindness due to political dogma. There must be a medical name for it. You might be surprised at at some of the stories that emanate from, say France or Germany, where performance is often much worse, fares are complained about as much as they are everywhere, and people could tell you all sorts of anecdotes about indifferent service and unhelpful staff. Given the history of the ability of any British government in recorded history to run anything competently, where on earth do you get the idea from that nationalisation would lead to a blissful and beautiful tomorrow?[/p][/quote]By the way its got nothing to do with political dogma it has everything to do with being a customer and commuter who has no other option but tho use the train system which wholly unfit for purpose. I spend over 12% of my income on a shoddy service where: i/ You dont get a seat ii/ The trains run late and are delayed more often then they are on-time. iii/ Constant year on year inflation busting ticket increases with no improvement in service. I concede that nationisation isnt perfect but i would not mind a standard of service that is commensurate with the cost. The current system is broken and discrimates against the hard working commuters who have no other choice. Ive just quit my job in the city because the train service is so abysmal, dangerously overcrowded and disfunctional and lucky found a local job and saved myself £6k pa. cj07589

12:02pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Dazza39 says...

Over £13BN of taxpayers money has been sucked out of the system since privatisation began in 1996, £1.2BN was sucked out in dividends and fragmentation costs in 2012 alone, privatisation doesn't work its been a monumental failure which is costs dearly.

Since privatisation 99% of the investment stills comes from the taxpayer direct, the train operators and rolling stock owners are fleecing the taxpayer.

If the railways were renationalise fares could drop by 18%, this 18% is want your paying to already very rich people. Re-Nationalise now
Over £13BN of taxpayers money has been sucked out of the system since privatisation began in 1996, £1.2BN was sucked out in dividends and fragmentation costs in 2012 alone, privatisation doesn't work its been a monumental failure which is costs dearly. Since privatisation 99% of the investment stills comes from the taxpayer direct, the train operators and rolling stock owners are fleecing the taxpayer. If the railways were renationalise fares could drop by 18%, this 18% is want your paying to already very rich people. Re-Nationalise now Dazza39

12:22pm Fri 3 Jan 14

ziggystardust says...

Guessing they can't win. The staff will be expecting at least inflation pay rise, It's fair to say the operating costs will have risen by inflation, so why shouldn't the fares also rise with inflation?

After all, isn't that what inflation is?

This could have been ALOT worse than 3%
Guessing they can't win. The staff will be expecting at least inflation pay rise, It's fair to say the operating costs will have risen by inflation, so why shouldn't the fares also rise with inflation? After all, isn't that what inflation is? This could have been ALOT worse than 3% ziggystardust

12:57pm Fri 3 Jan 14

cj07589 says...

ziggystardust wrote:
Guessing they can't win. The staff will be expecting at least inflation pay rise, It's fair to say the operating costs will have risen by inflation, so why shouldn't the fares also rise with inflation?

After all, isn't that what inflation is?

This could have been ALOT worse than 3%
I disagree, you mention 3% isnt alot but i'll give you a real life example that 3% of a large sum does indeed make a huge difference to the struggle indivdual especially when therir salaries are not increasing proportionally. The example: my ticket now costs £1 more per working day effectivelly meaning a monthly increase of £20, the last payrise i recieved was £40per month therefore this increase has effectively halfed last years payrise which incendially is the first payrise ive had in the last 4years! So the net difference of £20 remaining has to cover the council tax increases, energy bill increases, water bill increases the list goes on and on. The bottom line is this will get to a turning point when it is no longer sustainable hence why i changed jobs to avoid being held randsom by the ever escalating train fare increases.
[quote][p][bold]ziggystardust[/bold] wrote: Guessing they can't win. The staff will be expecting at least inflation pay rise, It's fair to say the operating costs will have risen by inflation, so why shouldn't the fares also rise with inflation? After all, isn't that what inflation is? This could have been ALOT worse than 3%[/p][/quote]I disagree, you mention 3% isnt alot but i'll give you a real life example that 3% of a large sum does indeed make a huge difference to the struggle indivdual especially when therir salaries are not increasing proportionally. The example: my ticket now costs £1 more per working day effectivelly meaning a monthly increase of £20, the last payrise i recieved was £40per month therefore this increase has effectively halfed last years payrise which incendially is the first payrise ive had in the last 4years! So the net difference of £20 remaining has to cover the council tax increases, energy bill increases, water bill increases the list goes on and on. The bottom line is this will get to a turning point when it is no longer sustainable hence why i changed jobs to avoid being held randsom by the ever escalating train fare increases. cj07589

6:18pm Fri 3 Jan 14

smilealoft44 says...

If i was pm you people would not suffer. Plenty of rich people to get this money off. Whos rich and could make a contribution?
George osbourn, David Cammeroon, Tony Blair, Nick Clegg,
CAN YOU NAME A FEW?
If i was pm you people would not suffer. Plenty of rich people to get this money off. Whos rich and could make a contribution? George osbourn, David Cammeroon, Tony Blair, Nick Clegg, CAN YOU NAME A FEW? smilealoft44

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