Weymouth Carnival Queen scrapped in favour of Miss Weymouth pageant

AS THEY WERE: Elysia Munday, centre, with Debbie Pollard, Jo Kahluashorey, Alison Wilcocks, Sue-Jane Smith and Georgina Grayson

AS THEY WERE: Elysia Munday, centre, with Debbie Pollard, Jo Kahluashorey, Alison Wilcocks, Sue-Jane Smith and Georgina Grayson

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WEYMOUTH’S Carnival Queen competition is being replaced by a charity-supporting ‘Miss Weymouth’ contest.

Organisers say recent wearers of the crown have been acting more as a town ambassador supporting good causes, rather than just being a beauty queen for the day.

An independent Miss Weymouth contest – which will have three winners representing different age groups – is being developed to ‘breathe life into an old format’.

Promoted as a charity beauty pageant, it will be supporting local cancer charity Weldmar Hospicecare Trust Winners will participate as usual in the carnival, continuing the Carnival Queen tradition, but there will be no longer any formal links with the event.

The move follows the break-up of the Ladies Alive fundraising group which organised the competition for several years.

Weymouth Carnival 2014 chairman Elysia Munday, who was queen in 2012, has got together with a team to develop Miss Weymouth. She has support from former queens including Natalie Fry (2010), Lucy Compton (2011) and current holder Gina Hartley.

There was uproar in 2009 when previous organisers proposed scrapping the carnival queen contest, claiming it was ‘outdated’, in favour of a ‘community champion’. They did a U-turn after a backlash.

Elysia said she was ‘well aware’ of that incident and said her plans were totally different.

She said she had ‘no issues’ with the carnival queen’s beauty pageant format and wanted this to continue, but wants to encourage women and girls to enter who may have felt restricted in the past.

Participants will be encouraged to fundraise and the winner in the 18+ category will compete in the finals of The Face of the World competition, a global charity pageant.

Elysia said: “I’m so excited to be unveiling this new, independent competition. It will encourage girls and women of all shapes and sizes to showcase their fantastic personalities, share why they think they would be the perfect candidate to represent our borough and support outstanding causes.”

Ladies Alive disbanded at the end of 2013 as members had other commitments.

Sue-Jane Smith from the group, said: “We are pleased to pass the responsibility for the election of the town’s ambassador to an exciting team.”

MISS Weymouth will have three age categories – Junior Miss (7-12), Teen Miss (13-17) and Miss (18+).

There is no upper age limit for the contest.

There will also be awards for Miss Charity, Miss Personality, Miss Elegance and Miss Congeniality.

Organisers are forming partnerships with local businesses for support and sponsorship. These include hairdressers, fashion retailers, beauty salons, florists, and others.

Full details of the entry process will be announced at a later date but if you are interested in getting involved, or want to support is as a business, contact missweymouth@outlook.com

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9:55am Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that.... David_divenghy2
  • Score: 25

10:05am Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

* should have read : "the fact you had wanted to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest anyway"?
* should have read : "the fact you had wanted to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest anyway"? David_divenghy2
  • Score: 3

10:11am Mon 13 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

I would like to assure all that we will most definitely be sticking with Carnival Queen tradition at this years event - this is a move to enhance the competition and create more opportunities.

Please, please do not hesitate to contact me on the email listed above if you have any questions regarding the move!

:)
I would like to assure all that we will most definitely be sticking with Carnival Queen tradition at this years event - this is a move to enhance the competition and create more opportunities. Please, please do not hesitate to contact me on the email listed above if you have any questions regarding the move! :) LysiaMunday
  • Score: -5

10:16am Mon 13 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :) LysiaMunday
  • Score: 2

10:19am Mon 13 Jan 14

Get a grip says...

We must not forget the transgender community.
We must not forget the transgender community. Get a grip
  • Score: 7

10:27am Mon 13 Jan 14

AManFromMars says...

LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
A celebration of inner beauty ..haha..what a joke..!
So I take it that men are incapable of having inner beauty and working for and supporting charitable causes?
Why should it not be open to all as joint event?
Men AND women..not a male event and a female event...?
With the list of prizes available it looks like its an 'everyones a winner' style event anyway.
[quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)[/p][/quote]A celebration of inner beauty ..haha..what a joke..! So I take it that men are incapable of having inner beauty and working for and supporting charitable causes? Why should it not be open to all as joint event? Men AND women..not a male event and a female event...? With the list of prizes available it looks like its an 'everyones a winner' style event anyway. AManFromMars
  • Score: 12

10:42am Mon 13 Jan 14

tedbungy says...

As usual when this comes up-waht about Mr Weymouth. If you want start a Mr Weymouth comp.

Lets get behind this new contest, the winners will be representing Weymouth cant see anything wrong in that.

Good luck to you all
As usual when this comes up-waht about Mr Weymouth. If you want start a Mr Weymouth comp. Lets get behind this new contest, the winners will be representing Weymouth cant see anything wrong in that. Good luck to you all tedbungy
  • Score: -2

10:56am Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
Dear Lysia,

Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender.

You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no?

I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not?

So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems?
So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?
[quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)[/p][/quote]Dear Lysia, Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender. You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no? I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not? So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems? So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit? David_divenghy2
  • Score: 10

11:00am Mon 13 Jan 14

AManFromMars says...

Representing Weymouth with what authority?
Sanctioned by whom?
Anybody can 'represent' Weymouth if they choose but this competition no longer has any formal link with the Carnival and therefore its tradition.
It should be open to all regardless of age, sex, race and religion if it truly is celebrating inner beauty and deeds rather than continuing a policy of misandry that only females can be beautiful and charitable.
Representing Weymouth with what authority? Sanctioned by whom? Anybody can 'represent' Weymouth if they choose but this competition no longer has any formal link with the Carnival and therefore its tradition. It should be open to all regardless of age, sex, race and religion if it truly is celebrating inner beauty and deeds rather than continuing a policy of misandry that only females can be beautiful and charitable. AManFromMars
  • Score: 16

11:03am Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

tedbungy wrote:
As usual when this comes up-waht about Mr Weymouth. If you want start a Mr Weymouth comp.

Lets get behind this new contest, the winners will be representing Weymouth cant see anything wrong in that.

Good luck to you all
Because they will only be representative of the half of Weymouth that is female and it will be judged on meaningless unmerited qualities that have no real value.

That's what's wrong with it.
[quote][p][bold]tedbungy[/bold] wrote: As usual when this comes up-waht about Mr Weymouth. If you want start a Mr Weymouth comp. Lets get behind this new contest, the winners will be representing Weymouth cant see anything wrong in that. Good luck to you all[/p][/quote]Because they will only be representative of the half of Weymouth that is female and it will be judged on meaningless unmerited qualities that have no real value. That's what's wrong with it. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 12

11:31am Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

" Miss Weymouth will have three age categories – Junior Miss (7-12) "

This along with the word "Pageant" is very worrying.

While I am not suggesting that this event will become the "American" type of pageant which is little more than child abuse and demented mothers using their children for money and living their own failed lives through them, I think it is wholly inappropriate to have children of this age (regardless of their gender) being " judged in this superficial way.

It is an awful precedent to set them so early in life and how the hell can you "judge" a small child who has not yet done anything in life unless it is based on appearance? I hope this part of the event is withdrawn straight away.
" Miss Weymouth will have three age categories – Junior Miss (7-12) " This along with the word "Pageant" is very worrying. While I am not suggesting that this event will become the "American" type of pageant which is little more than child abuse and demented mothers using their children for money and living their own failed lives through them, I think it is wholly inappropriate to have children of this age (regardless of their gender) being " judged in this superficial way. It is an awful precedent to set them so early in life and how the hell can you "judge" a small child who has not yet done anything in life unless it is based on appearance? I hope this part of the event is withdrawn straight away. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 20

12:24pm Mon 13 Jan 14

westbaywonder says...

Get a grip wrote:
We must not forget the transgender community.
Or the Gay community!
[quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: We must not forget the transgender community.[/p][/quote]Or the Gay community! westbaywonder
  • Score: -1

12:27pm Mon 13 Jan 14

AManFromMars says...

Just looked at the website for 'Face Of Europe'...
What a shocking indictment that is!
Even in their own words its a business opportunity....
Full of 'every girl wants to be a princess' quotes..
Just looked at the website for 'Face Of Europe'... What a shocking indictment that is! Even in their own words its a business opportunity.... Full of 'every girl wants to be a princess' quotes.. AManFromMars
  • Score: 9

12:46pm Mon 13 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

Men moaning about equal rights?

Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!

LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)
Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;) elloello1980
  • Score: -13

12:48pm Mon 13 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

westbaywonder wrote:
Get a grip wrote: We must not forget the transgender community.
Or the Gay community!
gender, not sexual preference
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: We must not forget the transgender community.[/p][/quote]Or the Gay community![/p][/quote]gender, not sexual preference elloello1980
  • Score: 0

1:01pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Men moaning about equal rights?

Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!

LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)
" Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!"

What a pathetic attempt to attack my genitals with shaming language because you have nothing intelligent to debate with, how amusing.

Man up? What is that supposed to mean exactly? So, some men are wet because they stand up for "real "equality and a World based on real merits and achievement, instead of being some useful idiot to some self-entitled princess?

No my dear, the only truly, "wet" Men that exist, are those who tolerate such.

So why don't you, "woman up" and practice some of that "equality" we hear so much about, eh?
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)[/p][/quote]" Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!" What a pathetic attempt to attack my genitals with shaming language because you have nothing intelligent to debate with, how amusing. Man up? What is that supposed to mean exactly? So, some men are wet because they stand up for "real "equality and a World based on real merits and achievement, instead of being some useful idiot to some self-entitled princess? No my dear, the only truly, "wet" Men that exist, are those who tolerate such. So why don't you, "woman up" and practice some of that "equality" we hear so much about, eh? David_divenghy2
  • Score: 19

1:04pm Mon 13 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
Dear Lysia,

Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender.

You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no?

I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not?

So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems?
So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?
You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)[/p][/quote]Dear Lysia, Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender. You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no? I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not? So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems? So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?[/p][/quote]You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative. woodsedge
  • Score: -13

1:13pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

woodsedge wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
Dear Lysia,

Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender.

You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no?

I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not?

So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems?
So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?
You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.
So apparently now I am also "manfrommars" am I? According to you , I must be a God, I seem to be omnipresent, especially on threads that are not going the way you want them to?

Funny that, just saying.....
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)[/p][/quote]Dear Lysia, Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender. You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no? I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not? So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems? So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?[/p][/quote]You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.[/p][/quote]So apparently now I am also "manfrommars" am I? According to you , I must be a God, I seem to be omnipresent, especially on threads that are not going the way you want them to? Funny that, just saying..... David_divenghy2
  • Score: 11

1:32pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Get a grip says...

westbaywonder wrote:
Get a grip wrote:
We must not forget the transgender community.
Or the Gay community!
If you do not understand the issues involved it may have been better for you not to have shown your ignorance.
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: We must not forget the transgender community.[/p][/quote]Or the Gay community![/p][/quote]If you do not understand the issues involved it may have been better for you not to have shown your ignorance. Get a grip
  • Score: 0

2:34pm Mon 13 Jan 14

AManFromMars says...

woodsedge wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
Dear Lysia,

Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender.

You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no?

I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not?

So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems?
So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?
You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.
Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying?
Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)[/p][/quote]Dear Lysia, Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender. You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no? I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not? So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems? So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?[/p][/quote]You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.[/p][/quote]Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying? Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge. AManFromMars
  • Score: 6

3:01pm Mon 13 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote: Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)
" Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!" What a pathetic attempt to attack my genitals with shaming language because you have nothing intelligent to debate with, how amusing. Man up? What is that supposed to mean exactly? So, some men are wet because they stand up for "real "equality and a World based on real merits and achievement, instead of being some useful idiot to some self-entitled princess? No my dear, the only truly, "wet" Men that exist, are those who tolerate such. So why don't you, "woman up" and practice some of that "equality" we hear so much about, eh?
here's a tissue... ;)

*oh, no! this melt is actually using it to wipe his tears*

My grandad would be ashamed to share the planet with such a wet-wipe of a 'man'
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)[/p][/quote]" Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!" What a pathetic attempt to attack my genitals with shaming language because you have nothing intelligent to debate with, how amusing. Man up? What is that supposed to mean exactly? So, some men are wet because they stand up for "real "equality and a World based on real merits and achievement, instead of being some useful idiot to some self-entitled princess? No my dear, the only truly, "wet" Men that exist, are those who tolerate such. So why don't you, "woman up" and practice some of that "equality" we hear so much about, eh?[/p][/quote]here's a tissue... ;) *oh, no! this melt is actually using it to wipe his tears* My grandad would be ashamed to share the planet with such a wet-wipe of a 'man' elloello1980
  • Score: -9

3:11pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

elloello1980 wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote: Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)
" Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!" What a pathetic attempt to attack my genitals with shaming language because you have nothing intelligent to debate with, how amusing. Man up? What is that supposed to mean exactly? So, some men are wet because they stand up for "real "equality and a World based on real merits and achievement, instead of being some useful idiot to some self-entitled princess? No my dear, the only truly, "wet" Men that exist, are those who tolerate such. So why don't you, "woman up" and practice some of that "equality" we hear so much about, eh?
here's a tissue... ;)

*oh, no! this melt is actually using it to wipe his tears*

My grandad would be ashamed to share the planet with such a wet-wipe of a 'man'
Childish insinuations and shaming language? Is that really all you can manage Dear?
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)[/p][/quote]" Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!" What a pathetic attempt to attack my genitals with shaming language because you have nothing intelligent to debate with, how amusing. Man up? What is that supposed to mean exactly? So, some men are wet because they stand up for "real "equality and a World based on real merits and achievement, instead of being some useful idiot to some self-entitled princess? No my dear, the only truly, "wet" Men that exist, are those who tolerate such. So why don't you, "woman up" and practice some of that "equality" we hear so much about, eh?[/p][/quote]here's a tissue... ;) *oh, no! this melt is actually using it to wipe his tears* My grandad would be ashamed to share the planet with such a wet-wipe of a 'man'[/p][/quote]Childish insinuations and shaming language? Is that really all you can manage Dear? David_divenghy2
  • Score: 12

3:13pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

AManFromMars wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
Dear Lysia,

Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender.

You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no?

I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not?

So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems?
So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?
You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.
Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying?
Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge.
I looked you up actually and notice you have been on here commenting since August 2012, so again woodsedge is made to look the ridiculous femi-troll they are . Thanks for the mention of the face of Europe thing, I Googled it, nothing more than a meat market full of narcissistic self entitlement.
[quote][p][bold]AManFromMars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)[/p][/quote]Dear Lysia, Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender. You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no? I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not? So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems? So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?[/p][/quote]You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.[/p][/quote]Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying? Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge.[/p][/quote]I looked you up actually and notice you have been on here commenting since August 2012, so again woodsedge is made to look the ridiculous femi-troll they are . Thanks for the mention of the face of Europe thing, I Googled it, nothing more than a meat market full of narcissistic self entitlement. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 9

3:37pm Mon 13 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
AManFromMars wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
Dear Lysia,

Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender.

You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no?

I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not?

So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems?
So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?
You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.
Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying?
Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge.
I looked you up actually and notice you have been on here commenting since August 2012, so again woodsedge is made to look the ridiculous femi-troll they are . Thanks for the mention of the face of Europe thing, I Googled it, nothing more than a meat market full of narcissistic self entitlement.
What the hell are you rambling on about! "Face of Europe thing" have you just taken your medication because I have never mentioned face of Europe, are you getting your sudonyms mixed up old boy?
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AManFromMars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)[/p][/quote]Dear Lysia, Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender. You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no? I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not? So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems? So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?[/p][/quote]You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.[/p][/quote]Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying? Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge.[/p][/quote]I looked you up actually and notice you have been on here commenting since August 2012, so again woodsedge is made to look the ridiculous femi-troll they are . Thanks for the mention of the face of Europe thing, I Googled it, nothing more than a meat market full of narcissistic self entitlement.[/p][/quote]What the hell are you rambling on about! "Face of Europe thing" have you just taken your medication because I have never mentioned face of Europe, are you getting your sudonyms mixed up old boy? woodsedge
  • Score: -8

3:39pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

woodsedge wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
AManFromMars wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
Dear Lysia,

Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender.

You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no?

I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not?

So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems?
So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?
You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.
Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying?
Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge.
I looked you up actually and notice you have been on here commenting since August 2012, so again woodsedge is made to look the ridiculous femi-troll they are . Thanks for the mention of the face of Europe thing, I Googled it, nothing more than a meat market full of narcissistic self entitlement.
What the hell are you rambling on about! "Face of Europe thing" have you just taken your medication because I have never mentioned face of Europe, are you getting your sudonyms mixed up old boy?
oops, Pressed the wrong quote button, clearly meant for aManfrommars, not the local femi-troll
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AManFromMars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)[/p][/quote]Dear Lysia, Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender. You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no? I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not? So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems? So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?[/p][/quote]You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.[/p][/quote]Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying? Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge.[/p][/quote]I looked you up actually and notice you have been on here commenting since August 2012, so again woodsedge is made to look the ridiculous femi-troll they are . Thanks for the mention of the face of Europe thing, I Googled it, nothing more than a meat market full of narcissistic self entitlement.[/p][/quote]What the hell are you rambling on about! "Face of Europe thing" have you just taken your medication because I have never mentioned face of Europe, are you getting your sudonyms mixed up old boy?[/p][/quote]oops, Pressed the wrong quote button, clearly meant for aManfrommars, not the local femi-troll David_divenghy2
  • Score: 7

3:39pm Mon 13 Jan 14

February1948 says...

For Heaven's sake everyone, chill out, it's only a bit of fun!
For Heaven's sake everyone, chill out, it's only a bit of fun! February1948
  • Score: 3

3:48pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

No, it's an unqualified, unsanctioned sexist business event that makes claims to represent "the community", yet barrs 50% of it from entering.

It also fails to offer anything of any merit with which to represent the community with anyway. It is also questionable as to whether it is appropriate to parade 7-12 year old's about and have adults judge them based, it appears, on superficial or physical attractiveness. Sorry but that just seems wrong.
No, it's an unqualified, unsanctioned sexist business event that makes claims to represent "the community", yet barrs 50% of it from entering. It also fails to offer anything of any merit with which to represent the community with anyway. It is also questionable as to whether it is appropriate to parade 7-12 year old's about and have adults judge them based, it appears, on superficial or physical attractiveness. Sorry but that just seems wrong. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 18

4:02pm Mon 13 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote: Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)
" Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!" What a pathetic attempt to attack my genitals with shaming language because you have nothing intelligent to debate with, how amusing. Man up? What is that supposed to mean exactly? So, some men are wet because they stand up for "real "equality and a World based on real merits and achievement, instead of being some useful idiot to some self-entitled princess? No my dear, the only truly, "wet" Men that exist, are those who tolerate such. So why don't you, "woman up" and practice some of that "equality" we hear so much about, eh?
here's a tissue... ;) *oh, no! this melt is actually using it to wipe his tears* My grandad would be ashamed to share the planet with such a wet-wipe of a 'man'
Childish insinuations and shaming language? Is that really all you can manage Dear?
aww :)
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)[/p][/quote]" Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!" What a pathetic attempt to attack my genitals with shaming language because you have nothing intelligent to debate with, how amusing. Man up? What is that supposed to mean exactly? So, some men are wet because they stand up for "real "equality and a World based on real merits and achievement, instead of being some useful idiot to some self-entitled princess? No my dear, the only truly, "wet" Men that exist, are those who tolerate such. So why don't you, "woman up" and practice some of that "equality" we hear so much about, eh?[/p][/quote]here's a tissue... ;) *oh, no! this melt is actually using it to wipe his tears* My grandad would be ashamed to share the planet with such a wet-wipe of a 'man'[/p][/quote]Childish insinuations and shaming language? Is that really all you can manage Dear?[/p][/quote]aww :) elloello1980
  • Score: -10

4:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

sandman223 says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Men moaning about equal rights?

Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!

LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)
Idiot!!
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)[/p][/quote]Idiot!! sandman223
  • Score: 8

4:54pm Mon 13 Jan 14

JamesYoung says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Men moaning about equal rights?

Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties!

LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)
Much as i agree that this is a bit of fun and should be seen as such, i would counsel you to think what your reaction would be if this had been the other way around.
Perhaps, next time we read of a domestic violence march by women, we should simply say "grow a pair, you bunch of wet ties".
Equality has to be equal, or it's not.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: Men moaning about equal rights? Man up and/or grow a pair you bunch of wetties! LysiaMunday, keep up the good work. Echo commentors do not represent the overall opinion of Weymouth's residents, as i'm sure you know ;)[/p][/quote]Much as i agree that this is a bit of fun and should be seen as such, i would counsel you to think what your reaction would be if this had been the other way around. Perhaps, next time we read of a domestic violence march by women, we should simply say "grow a pair, you bunch of wet ties". Equality has to be equal, or it's not. JamesYoung
  • Score: 11

4:57pm Mon 13 Jan 14

JamesYoung says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
AManFromMars wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either.

Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....
We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role!

Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible!

I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants.

I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)
Dear Lysia,

Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender.

You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no?

I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not?

So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems?
So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?
You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.
Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying?
Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge.
I looked you up actually and notice you have been on here commenting since August 2012, so again woodsedge is made to look the ridiculous femi-troll they are . Thanks for the mention of the face of Europe thing, I Googled it, nothing more than a meat market full of narcissistic self entitlement.
I think Woodsedge is just trying to point out that this is just a bit of fun. It's amazing it's triggered such an outpouring of sexism on both sides!
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AManFromMars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: Why do we still need this un-merited pedastaling of females for doing nothing of any note? Re-naming it out of embarrassment for it's ever more obvious and vacuous skin -deep nature won't help either. Given all the (false) equality clap-trap shoveled on society and the fact you now want to claim it is for a, "community champion" , why is it not a male and female contest, Merit Vs Merit? Why are no males in it? Where is Mr Weymouth? They would probably demand quotas if they did that....[/p][/quote]We really wanted to uphold the tradition - our former Queens have done such a brilliant job of representing our beautiful borough so saw this as a great opportunity to develop the role! Having a male contest is definitely something we will look to in the future - just testing the water and seeing what is possible! I will also say, it's a celebration of the inner beauty and achievements accomplished by our contestants. I completely respect your opinion and apologise that this isn't to your taste but maybe we could join forces next year? You can take the male contest and I'll stick to what I know best? :)[/p][/quote]Dear Lysia, Outer beauty is transient and meaningless in general, as it is something that is in the eye of the individual beholder. It is false to judge it any other way. Inner beauty is something that can be interpreted in many ways, most of them whimsically I suspect, but real Merit can only be interpreted in one way. It is this real and tangible merit things should be based on and that is what should be representing the community regardless of Gender. You mention a gender-separated competition, why would you fear a gender neutral event based on merit? Why do we need a gender separate event if it is supposedly for someone who will be representing the whole community? I do not accept it needs to be gender separate, it should be about the best person for the job, so to speak, no? I cannot accept the excuse of "tradition" as a reason to continue this vacuous event, because if that was the case, all your entrants would be slim and model-like as well as maybe a bit more athletic as they traditionally are, would they not? So clearly "tradition" can be changed when it suits, or so it seems? So why can your already established group not entertain an all gender event, base don merit?[/p][/quote]You won't be entering then AKA David_divenghy2? Isn't it a coincident that you and a ManFromMars both scored 6, just saying! Someone else doing good for the community and you again manage to turn it into a negative.[/p][/quote]Coincidence or six people (plus any needed to negate minus votes) agreeing to both what I and David_divenghy2 are saying? Whilst not a huge sampling of Weymouth society it does appear to be a more populist standpoint than yours, Woodsedge.[/p][/quote]I looked you up actually and notice you have been on here commenting since August 2012, so again woodsedge is made to look the ridiculous femi-troll they are . Thanks for the mention of the face of Europe thing, I Googled it, nothing more than a meat market full of narcissistic self entitlement.[/p][/quote]I think Woodsedge is just trying to point out that this is just a bit of fun. It's amazing it's triggered such an outpouring of sexism on both sides! JamesYoung
  • Score: -1

4:57pm Mon 13 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

I am so sorry I haven't commented - I've been with the BBC promoting the clean-up of Chesil Beach!

Let's not get silly about this - of course there will always be a divide in opinion and I was very aware of this when it started although I thought it would be more so to do with evolving Carnival Queen!

Firstly, there are many many inspirational people in Weymouth of all diversities - perhaps an Award Ceremony would be a fantastic new addition locally? To recognise all who have been local heroes? That would be brilliant.

This type of competition is continuing the female role upheld by Carnival Queen - I know you said you weren't interested in tradition but our previous Queens HAVE made a huge difference getting stuck into charity and community work. I am a size 14 and suffer with very severe and obvious skin disease and have had this all my life - if this were about vanity I am unsure if I would have ever had the opportunity to be Carnival Queen as those types of competition are very strict.

This is all about the person.

I know it might not be something you are interested in but the response has been absolutely phenomenal! It's definitely not a business opportunity - I am paying out of my own pocket to ensure this is an amazing event that will raise a good sum for the Weldmar Hospice who will benefit for all our profit. Yes I aim to promote local business - I will ONLY use local business because I believe in supporting local business. But this is to spotlight the wonderful services and products available from local suppliers and not a business opportunity.

Face of Europe has raised £94,000 to benefit those who have suffered with brain injury and yes, they are a worldwide pageant so must operate as a business to ensure they can run. The way they treat their contestants is simply second to none and the involvement with charity is outstanding.

I wouldn't say I didn't support 'stereotypical' pageants that look for appearance and only appearance - some girls get a lot from them, but I don't encourage the isolating and sometimes esteem damaging values that I will not replicate. Miss Weymouth does not include appearance as a judged quality. Girls will stand out on personality and their willingness to get involved in the community.

I am a true believer in doing and not complaining so if you feel there is something missing, like a male recognition competition, then I will be 100% behind you in making it happen!

Everything I do, I do to help other people because in my time of need, people helped me and I will forever be in debt to the kindness of strangers! :)
I am so sorry I haven't commented - I've been with the BBC promoting the clean-up of Chesil Beach! Let's not get silly about this - of course there will always be a divide in opinion and I was very aware of this when it started although I thought it would be more so to do with evolving Carnival Queen! Firstly, there are many many inspirational people in Weymouth of all diversities - perhaps an Award Ceremony would be a fantastic new addition locally? To recognise all who have been local heroes? That would be brilliant. This type of competition is continuing the female role upheld by Carnival Queen - I know you said you weren't interested in tradition but our previous Queens HAVE made a huge difference getting stuck into charity and community work. I am a size 14 and suffer with very severe and obvious skin disease and have had this all my life - if this were about vanity I am unsure if I would have ever had the opportunity to be Carnival Queen as those types of competition are very strict. This is all about the person. I know it might not be something you are interested in but the response has been absolutely phenomenal! It's definitely not a business opportunity - I am paying out of my own pocket to ensure this is an amazing event that will raise a good sum for the Weldmar Hospice who will benefit for all our profit. Yes I aim to promote local business - I will ONLY use local business because I believe in supporting local business. But this is to spotlight the wonderful services and products available from local suppliers and not a business opportunity. Face of Europe has raised £94,000 to benefit those who have suffered with brain injury and yes, they are a worldwide pageant so must operate as a business to ensure they can run. The way they treat their contestants is simply second to none and the involvement with charity is outstanding. I wouldn't say I didn't support 'stereotypical' pageants that look for appearance and only appearance - some girls get a lot from them, but I don't encourage the isolating and sometimes esteem damaging values that I will not replicate. Miss Weymouth does not include appearance as a judged quality. Girls will stand out on personality and their willingness to get involved in the community. I am a true believer in doing and not complaining so if you feel there is something missing, like a male recognition competition, then I will be 100% behind you in making it happen! Everything I do, I do to help other people because in my time of need, people helped me and I will forever be in debt to the kindness of strangers! :) LysiaMunday
  • Score: 2

6:05pm Mon 13 Jan 14

westbaywonder says...

Get a grip wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
Get a grip wrote:
We must not forget the transgender community.
Or the Gay community!
If you do not understand the issues involved it may have been better for you not to have shown your ignorance.
There are no issues involved,all this thing is good for is taking the **** out of,
Hell,what a shallow world you live in,making out that a local tits and arse show has issues.
Dont know about Get A Grip,more like GET A LIFE!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: We must not forget the transgender community.[/p][/quote]Or the Gay community![/p][/quote]If you do not understand the issues involved it may have been better for you not to have shown your ignorance.[/p][/quote]There are no issues involved,all this thing is good for is taking the **** out of, Hell,what a shallow world you live in,making out that a local tits and arse show has issues. Dont know about Get A Grip,more like GET A LIFE!!!!!! westbaywonder
  • Score: 5

6:22pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

Firstly, thank you for your response. However I think we can forego the emotive content which may obfuscate the base issues.

I must say the first thing i noticed is what you claim, is somewhat let down when one looks at the face of Europe website. The superficial "Princess" pedastalling of the young women is quite evident. As for the, face of the world" website, the first thing you are hit with is, "The worlds prettiest girl" before going onto a gallery of scantily clad females, some in various "seductive" poses. So lets be honest, it leaves little question as to what attributes and merits are really being judged at those events. Hardly meritorious.

If you are 100% behind males being involved as they should be if you claim to offer representation of the "community" or as you say "Town ambassador". On that title it begs the question why are they not already involved? There has been years in which to do it and as one person indicated, it has been an issue raised before. There is absolutely no need for a separate male event if the event is, as it claims, to represent the community or Town. I do not accept Tradition as a reason because I am certain many women would not accept many things we could all think of, if we justified them with "Tradition".

This event and those who participate in it, cannot realistically be said to represent the community or Town, all the while 50% of the community cannot participate equally. If you agree to male participation then there is no reason you cannot make next years event a multi-gender one and in the same event, not separate. I look forward to you doing that, as of course you are already established and in the best position to make it happen. It would be great to see you continue your good charitable work while promoting real equality.
Firstly, thank you for your response. However I think we can forego the emotive content which may obfuscate the base issues. I must say the first thing i noticed is what you claim, is somewhat let down when one looks at the face of Europe website. The superficial "Princess" pedastalling of the young women is quite evident. As for the, face of the world" website, the first thing you are hit with is, "The worlds prettiest girl" before going onto a gallery of scantily clad females, some in various "seductive" poses. So lets be honest, it leaves little question as to what attributes and merits are really being judged at those events. Hardly meritorious. If you are 100% behind males being involved as they should be if you claim to offer representation of the "community" or as you say "Town ambassador". On that title it begs the question why are they not already involved? There has been years in which to do it and as one person indicated, it has been an issue raised before. There is absolutely no need for a separate male event if the event is, as it claims, to represent the community or Town. I do not accept Tradition as a reason because I am certain many women would not accept many things we could all think of, if we justified them with "Tradition". This event and those who participate in it, cannot realistically be said to represent the community or Town, all the while 50% of the community cannot participate equally. If you agree to male participation then there is no reason you cannot make next years event a multi-gender one and in the same event, not separate. I look forward to you doing that, as of course you are already established and in the best position to make it happen. It would be great to see you continue your good charitable work while promoting real equality. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 5

6:23pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

Sorry, my above comment was for Lisia, me and that quote button....
Sorry, my above comment was for Lisia, me and that quote button.... David_divenghy2
  • Score: -2

6:38pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Get a grip says...

westbaywonder wrote:
Get a grip wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
Get a grip wrote:
We must not forget the transgender community.
Or the Gay community!
If you do not understand the issues involved it may have been better for you not to have shown your ignorance.
There are no issues involved,all this thing is good for is taking the **** out of,
Hell,what a shallow world you live in,making out that a local tits and arse show has issues.
Dont know about Get A Grip,more like GET A LIFE!!!!!!
Got you going. Ha ha
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: We must not forget the transgender community.[/p][/quote]Or the Gay community![/p][/quote]If you do not understand the issues involved it may have been better for you not to have shown your ignorance.[/p][/quote]There are no issues involved,all this thing is good for is taking the **** out of, Hell,what a shallow world you live in,making out that a local tits and arse show has issues. Dont know about Get A Grip,more like GET A LIFE!!!!!![/p][/quote]Got you going. Ha ha Get a grip
  • Score: -5

6:56pm Mon 13 Jan 14

emerald8@tiscali.co.uk says...

I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :)
I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :) emerald8@tiscali.co.uk
  • Score: 0

7:06pm Mon 13 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

emerald8@tiscali.co.
uk
wrote:
I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :)
Instead of criticising the committee and requesting a public vote, why don't you become involved and volunteer your opinions and sit on the committee?
[quote][p][bold]emerald8@tiscali.co. uk[/bold] wrote: I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :)[/p][/quote]Instead of criticising the committee and requesting a public vote, why don't you become involved and volunteer your opinions and sit on the committee? woodsedge
  • Score: -4

7:09pm Mon 13 Jan 14

tedbungy says...

emerald8@tiscali.co.
uk
wrote:
I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :)
Sorry I dont agree that the committee is out of touch, locals want a carnival, that is what they are trying to do. The Queen was ran by a sperate group that as disbanded. The Carnival committiee is always asking for locals to step up and help, not many takers for that, so unless a new group takes on the Carnival Queen I think this is the best saloution. Intresting of all the comments this is the only one to mention it
[quote][p][bold]emerald8@tiscali.co. uk[/bold] wrote: I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :)[/p][/quote]Sorry I dont agree that the committee is out of touch, locals want a carnival, that is what they are trying to do. The Queen was ran by a sperate group that as disbanded. The Carnival committiee is always asking for locals to step up and help, not many takers for that, so unless a new group takes on the Carnival Queen I think this is the best saloution. Intresting of all the comments this is the only one to mention it tedbungy
  • Score: -1

7:28pm Mon 13 Jan 14

sandman223 says...

tedbungy wrote:
emerald8@tiscali.co.

uk
wrote:
I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :)
Sorry I dont agree that the committee is out of touch, locals want a carnival, that is what they are trying to do. The Queen was ran by a sperate group that as disbanded. The Carnival committiee is always asking for locals to step up and help, not many takers for that, so unless a new group takes on the Carnival Queen I think this is the best saloution. Intresting of all the comments this is the only one to mention it
im local, i dont want a carnival!! why not spend or donate the thousands of the local tax payers money on something worthwhile rather than thousands on a couple of floats that the carnival has become. I believe a group were PAID to be part of last years appaling display!
[quote][p][bold]tedbungy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emerald8@tiscali.co. uk[/bold] wrote: I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :)[/p][/quote]Sorry I dont agree that the committee is out of touch, locals want a carnival, that is what they are trying to do. The Queen was ran by a sperate group that as disbanded. The Carnival committiee is always asking for locals to step up and help, not many takers for that, so unless a new group takes on the Carnival Queen I think this is the best saloution. Intresting of all the comments this is the only one to mention it[/p][/quote]im local, i dont want a carnival!! why not spend or donate the thousands of the local tax payers money on something worthwhile rather than thousands on a couple of floats that the carnival has become. I believe a group were PAID to be part of last years appaling display! sandman223
  • Score: 5

7:45pm Mon 13 Jan 14

emerald8@tiscali.co.uk says...

What and work with a number of chief's with their own agenda's .......no I think I pass but thanks for the offer ;-)
What and work with a number of chief's with their own agenda's .......no I think I pass but thanks for the offer ;-) emerald8@tiscali.co.uk
  • Score: 0

7:46pm Mon 13 Jan 14

AManFromMars says...

sandman223 wrote:
tedbungy wrote:
emerald8@tiscali.co.


uk
wrote:
I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :)
Sorry I dont agree that the committee is out of touch, locals want a carnival, that is what they are trying to do. The Queen was ran by a sperate group that as disbanded. The Carnival committiee is always asking for locals to step up and help, not many takers for that, so unless a new group takes on the Carnival Queen I think this is the best saloution. Intresting of all the comments this is the only one to mention it
im local, i dont want a carnival!! why not spend or donate the thousands of the local tax payers money on something worthwhile rather than thousands on a couple of floats that the carnival has become. I believe a group were PAID to be part of last years appaling display!
You seem to be under the impression that the Carnival is somehow funded by the taxpayer / council?
It isn't, its paid for through donations, advertising, brochures and sponsorship, some of which is used to pay the council for services such as barriers / officers time.
The surplus money raised is then donated to local charities.
[quote][p][bold]sandman223[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tedbungy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emerald8@tiscali.co. uk[/bold] wrote: I think we should continue the tradition of the carnival queen. The carnival queen has been a massive supporting role to the carnival itself.....Mrs, miss or ms Weymouth sounds tacky and there is a business opportunity in there somewhere regardless of what I'm hearing. This is not Blackpool let's stick to tradition.....the new carnival committee is out of touch with what the locals want, I suggest the the idea is taken to a public vote! Simples :)[/p][/quote]Sorry I dont agree that the committee is out of touch, locals want a carnival, that is what they are trying to do. The Queen was ran by a sperate group that as disbanded. The Carnival committiee is always asking for locals to step up and help, not many takers for that, so unless a new group takes on the Carnival Queen I think this is the best saloution. Intresting of all the comments this is the only one to mention it[/p][/quote]im local, i dont want a carnival!! why not spend or donate the thousands of the local tax payers money on something worthwhile rather than thousands on a couple of floats that the carnival has become. I believe a group were PAID to be part of last years appaling display![/p][/quote]You seem to be under the impression that the Carnival is somehow funded by the taxpayer / council? It isn't, its paid for through donations, advertising, brochures and sponsorship, some of which is used to pay the council for services such as barriers / officers time. The surplus money raised is then donated to local charities. AManFromMars
  • Score: 4

7:51pm Mon 13 Jan 14

sandman223 says...

I stand corrected!! Still think the money could be spent elsewhere though! the carnival had run its course a few years ago!
I stand corrected!! Still think the money could be spent elsewhere though! the carnival had run its course a few years ago! sandman223
  • Score: 0

7:58pm Mon 13 Jan 14

AManFromMars says...

sandman223 wrote:
I stand corrected!! Still think the money could be spent elsewhere though! the carnival had run its course a few years ago!
What money would that be ?
The money is generated by the carnival event.
Without the carnival there would be no extra money.
Private companies dont just give money away.
The public donate and spend on that day so they can see a spectacle and know that their monies are going towards local projects..
[quote][p][bold]sandman223[/bold] wrote: I stand corrected!! Still think the money could be spent elsewhere though! the carnival had run its course a few years ago![/p][/quote]What money would that be ? The money is generated by the carnival event. Without the carnival there would be no extra money. Private companies dont just give money away. The public donate and spend on that day so they can see a spectacle and know that their monies are going towards local projects.. AManFromMars
  • Score: 0

8:12pm Mon 13 Jan 14

2539 says...

Would be more like Crufts than any sort of beauty contest.
Would be more like Crufts than any sort of beauty contest. 2539
  • Score: 11

8:14pm Mon 13 Jan 14

emerald8@tiscali.co.uk says...

Can someone tell me if this new miss Weymouth has been registered as a limited company, people are are saying it is? And if this is the case not all public money will end up at local charities or to pay for the overheads.....are the organisers planning on taking a wage from door entry fee's to watch the new miss weymouth's ? I so hope not !
Can someone tell me if this new miss Weymouth has been registered as a limited company, people are are saying it is? And if this is the case not all public money will end up at local charities or to pay for the overheads.....are the organisers planning on taking a wage from door entry fee's to watch the new miss weymouth's ? I so hope not ! emerald8@tiscali.co.uk
  • Score: 5

8:28pm Mon 13 Jan 14

sandman223 says...

AManFromMars wrote:
sandman223 wrote:
I stand corrected!! Still think the money could be spent elsewhere though! the carnival had run its course a few years ago!
What money would that be ?
The money is generated by the carnival event.
Without the carnival there would be no extra money.
Private companies dont just give money away.
The public donate and spend on that day so they can see a spectacle and know that their monies are going towards local projects..
what spectale would that be then??
No wonder local businesses are suffering if they waste money advertising and sponsoring that dross put on for the holiday makers!! Yeah all good for the charity work and donations but back to the original article, how much mpre money would be available if we didnt have a carnival queen/miss Weymouth/sexist statement amd instead we donate that!
[quote][p][bold]AManFromMars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sandman223[/bold] wrote: I stand corrected!! Still think the money could be spent elsewhere though! the carnival had run its course a few years ago![/p][/quote]What money would that be ? The money is generated by the carnival event. Without the carnival there would be no extra money. Private companies dont just give money away. The public donate and spend on that day so they can see a spectacle and know that their monies are going towards local projects..[/p][/quote]what spectale would that be then?? No wonder local businesses are suffering if they waste money advertising and sponsoring that dross put on for the holiday makers!! Yeah all good for the charity work and donations but back to the original article, how much mpre money would be available if we didnt have a carnival queen/miss Weymouth/sexist statement amd instead we donate that! sandman223
  • Score: 1

8:37pm Mon 13 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

emerald8@tiscali.co.
uk
wrote:
Can someone tell me if this new miss Weymouth has been registered as a limited company, people are are saying it is? And if this is the case not all public money will end up at local charities or to pay for the overheads.....are the organisers planning on taking a wage from door entry fee's to watch the new miss weymouth's ? I so hope not !
Hi Debbie.

Yes Miss Weymouth had been set up as a LTD company by someone previous, however I am using my own money and sponsorship to cover all costs of the event;100% of profits raised WILL go to The Weldmar Hospice and I am very, very happy for a Weldmar representative to audit the finances to see this is exactly how it will operate.

There is nothing worse in my opinion than misleading the public regarding where money is going and I have always been very open and honest in all the charity work I have undertaken, allowing independent auditing of finances at any point!

Sometimes it can be hard to believe that people will do things at cost to them for no return. But it does happen! I'd give my last penny to charity and those who know me well are always telling me off for doing so! I love organising events for people to enjoy that will benefit charities and that's all I need in return :)

I hope this clears this matter up!
[quote][p][bold]emerald8@tiscali.co. uk[/bold] wrote: Can someone tell me if this new miss Weymouth has been registered as a limited company, people are are saying it is? And if this is the case not all public money will end up at local charities or to pay for the overheads.....are the organisers planning on taking a wage from door entry fee's to watch the new miss weymouth's ? I so hope not ![/p][/quote]Hi Debbie. Yes Miss Weymouth had been set up as a LTD company by someone previous, however I am using my own money and sponsorship to cover all costs of the event;100% of profits raised WILL go to The Weldmar Hospice and I am very, very happy for a Weldmar representative to audit the finances to see this is exactly how it will operate. There is nothing worse in my opinion than misleading the public regarding where money is going and I have always been very open and honest in all the charity work I have undertaken, allowing independent auditing of finances at any point! Sometimes it can be hard to believe that people will do things at cost to them for no return. But it does happen! I'd give my last penny to charity and those who know me well are always telling me off for doing so! I love organising events for people to enjoy that will benefit charities and that's all I need in return :) I hope this clears this matter up! LysiaMunday
  • Score: 3

9:10pm Mon 13 Jan 14

emerald8@tiscali.co.uk says...

Thanks for the response, I'm all for transparency as you know, so why set up a limited company? Did the carnival queen committee have one? if not why is there a need for one for this new venture? there are rumours that you and possibly a few others on the committee are planning on taking a wage from the profits made on this years carnival, and if this is the case then the public who donate need to know that their hard earned cash is not being fully spent on good causes but instead some is being used to pay wages for to those who are supposed to be volunteers! As I say just a rumour but needs clarifying.
Thanks for the response, I'm all for transparency as you know, so why set up a limited company? Did the carnival queen committee have one? if not why is there a need for one for this new venture? there are rumours that you and possibly a few others on the committee are planning on taking a wage from the profits made on this years carnival, and if this is the case then the public who donate need to know that their hard earned cash is not being fully spent on good causes but instead some is being used to pay wages for to those who are supposed to be volunteers! As I say just a rumour but needs clarifying. emerald8@tiscali.co.uk
  • Score: 2

9:11pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Naturalised southerner says...

I don't understand how this will "encourage girls and women of all shapes and sizes" as a Miss anywhere contest is always won by the most beautiful women in the world.
I don't understand how this will "encourage girls and women of all shapes and sizes" as a Miss anywhere contest is always won by the most beautiful women in the world. Naturalised southerner
  • Score: 8

9:22pm Mon 13 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

Carnival Queen was run by Ladies Alive who were registered as themselves. I imagine the Ltd company was set up for the sponsorship cheques to go through. As I aforementioned this was set up prior to my involvement by someone who isn't involved with the competition.

I can 100% clarify that I most certainly will not be taking a wage! I find this absolutely atrocious and am indeed shocked and upset by the rumour. During my time as Chairman, I can HEAVILY assure you that noone will take a wage! This is not how the event works. There was however suggestion of trialing an external company who seek large company sponsorship for events and take a % of what they collect, we contacted a company who could not commit to this so have taken on sponsorship collection internally.

Please read again my previous comment whereby I state clearly my opinion of misleading the public financially. To me, using charity for personal gain is a very, very low move and I will not have any part in doing so.
Carnival Queen was run by Ladies Alive who were registered as themselves. I imagine the Ltd company was set up for the sponsorship cheques to go through. As I aforementioned this was set up prior to my involvement by someone who isn't involved with the competition. I can 100% clarify that I most certainly will not be taking a wage! I find this absolutely atrocious and am indeed shocked and upset by the rumour. During my time as Chairman, I can HEAVILY assure you that noone will take a wage! This is not how the event works. There was however suggestion of trialing an external company who seek large company sponsorship for events and take a % of what they collect, we contacted a company who could not commit to this so have taken on sponsorship collection internally. Please read again my previous comment whereby I state clearly my opinion of misleading the public financially. To me, using charity for personal gain is a very, very low move and I will not have any part in doing so. LysiaMunday
  • Score: 2

9:30pm Mon 13 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

Naturalised southerner wrote:
I don't understand how this will "encourage girls and women of all shapes and sizes" as a Miss anywhere contest is always won by the most beautiful women in the world.
I've won a Miss competition and it was the most diverse and friendly competition I've encountered! The friendships made were beautiful and watching the confidence blossom among the girls was one of the best experiences of my life!This stems from a large number of comments about carnival queen last year saying they don't feel they are able to enter because they 'are not slim' or 'they don't wear makeup' - this new format is saying we are all beautiful and wonderfully diverse, since publishing this contest, I have been inundated with calls and messages of support, the most important being from girls and women who have felt isolated from Carnival Queen that are now really excited to participate! :)
[quote][p][bold]Naturalised southerner[/bold] wrote: I don't understand how this will "encourage girls and women of all shapes and sizes" as a Miss anywhere contest is always won by the most beautiful women in the world.[/p][/quote]I've won a Miss competition and it was the most diverse and friendly competition I've encountered! The friendships made were beautiful and watching the confidence blossom among the girls was one of the best experiences of my life!This stems from a large number of comments about carnival queen last year saying they don't feel they are able to enter because they 'are not slim' or 'they don't wear makeup' - this new format is saying we are all beautiful and wonderfully diverse, since publishing this contest, I have been inundated with calls and messages of support, the most important being from girls and women who have felt isolated from Carnival Queen that are now really excited to participate! :) LysiaMunday
  • Score: -2

9:56pm Mon 13 Jan 14

westbaywonder says...

2539 wrote:
Would be more like Crufts than any sort of beauty contest.
Brilliant!!
Best comment tonight on this rubbish!!
Well said 2539!
[quote][p][bold]2539[/bold] wrote: Would be more like Crufts than any sort of beauty contest.[/p][/quote]Brilliant!! Best comment tonight on this rubbish!! Well said 2539! westbaywonder
  • Score: 13

9:59pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in?

http://www.faceofwor
ldpageants.com/?q=co
ntestants
http://www.faceofeur
ope.co.uk/

Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup?
I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in? http://www.faceofwor ldpageants.com/?q=co ntestants http://www.faceofeur ope.co.uk/ Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup? David_divenghy2
  • Score: 11

10:15pm Mon 13 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in?

http://www.faceofwor

ldpageants.com/?q=co

ntestants
http://www.faceofeur

ope.co.uk/

Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup?
Miss Weymouth was registered as a LTD company previously. I would prefer to operate as a stand alone event but due to wanting to maintain 100% transparency at all times, felt I should address that yes, there is a LTD company called Miss Weymouth that was not set up by myself.

The Face of the World is an optional prize for the senior winner. We will not force this on anyone. The finals take place in Disney and it was decided it would be a great experience for the winner to participate in. I've just visited the face of world pageants site and can confirm this is not the same contest!
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in? http://www.faceofwor ldpageants.com/?q=co ntestants http://www.faceofeur ope.co.uk/ Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup?[/p][/quote]Miss Weymouth was registered as a LTD company previously. I would prefer to operate as a stand alone event but due to wanting to maintain 100% transparency at all times, felt I should address that yes, there is a LTD company called Miss Weymouth that was not set up by myself. The Face of the World is an optional prize for the senior winner. We will not force this on anyone. The finals take place in Disney and it was decided it would be a great experience for the winner to participate in. I've just visited the face of world pageants site and can confirm this is not the same contest! LysiaMunday
  • Score: -6

10:28pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in?

http://www.faceofwor


ldpageants.com/?q=co


ntestants
http://www.faceofeur


ope.co.uk/

Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup?
Miss Weymouth was registered as a LTD company previously. I would prefer to operate as a stand alone event but due to wanting to maintain 100% transparency at all times, felt I should address that yes, there is a LTD company called Miss Weymouth that was not set up by myself.

The Face of the World is an optional prize for the senior winner. We will not force this on anyone. The finals take place in Disney and it was decided it would be a great experience for the winner to participate in. I've just visited the face of world pageants site and can confirm this is not the same contest!
I notice the faceofeurope site is in Disneyland so I presume that link is correct? My question remains, As the article states faceofthewolrd also, if my link is wrong, could you please post links to the correct faceoftheworld event to avoid any confusion?
[quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in? http://www.faceofwor ldpageants.com/?q=co ntestants http://www.faceofeur ope.co.uk/ Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup?[/p][/quote]Miss Weymouth was registered as a LTD company previously. I would prefer to operate as a stand alone event but due to wanting to maintain 100% transparency at all times, felt I should address that yes, there is a LTD company called Miss Weymouth that was not set up by myself. The Face of the World is an optional prize for the senior winner. We will not force this on anyone. The finals take place in Disney and it was decided it would be a great experience for the winner to participate in. I've just visited the face of world pageants site and can confirm this is not the same contest![/p][/quote]I notice the faceofeurope site is in Disneyland so I presume that link is correct? My question remains, As the article states faceofthewolrd also, if my link is wrong, could you please post links to the correct faceoftheworld event to avoid any confusion? David_divenghy2
  • Score: 6

10:41pm Mon 13 Jan 14

SoldierSoldier says...

I cant believe all this. I'm always coming on here to read the comments: never commented myself until today because i dont like to spend all day debating. Im a local volunteer of a certain age and I've worked with this girl on a few things one fairly recent: she is very dedicated hardworking polite and to someone like me dare i say inspiring? despite her poor health. i would be flabbergasted if she was taking money and i know a good amount of people that would say the same. Fair enough you have your own views on this but the way you have been scrutinising this young girl is shocking. Should we not hail our young community members for wanting to help charities and give people something to do? I think we should and yet all i see is people spouting negativity not just on this but other things. personally i never cared for having a carnival queen but a lot of people do and clearly what lysia is trying to do is make it better for the people who want to be involved and give people who might not have had the confidence before a chance. yeah ok there are no males but what do you exepect from something trying to keep this carnival queen thing alive - i wouldnt be interested. i just think its a **** shame that theres all this negativity for a young girl who could be making headlines for all the wrong reasons or causing trouble when shes just helping. imagine if this was your daughter. congratulations for being so accomodating with your responses lysia i wouldnt have responded myself. i dont want to argue i just get fed up with people being so downbeat. i congratulate anyone trying to make a difference to even one person. ok not everythings going to be your cup of tea: if we spent have as much time doing good things instead of putting the world to rights wed have a much better place. i know i'm no shakespeare i just wanted to say what i feel about this. lets keep up the good work community spirit. i used to love that about weymouth.
I cant believe all this. I'm always coming on here to read the comments: never commented myself until today because i dont like to spend all day debating. Im a local volunteer of a certain age and I've worked with this girl on a few things one fairly recent: she is very dedicated hardworking polite and to someone like me dare i say inspiring? despite her poor health. i would be flabbergasted if she was taking money and i know a good amount of people that would say the same. Fair enough you have your own views on this but the way you have been scrutinising this young girl is shocking. Should we not hail our young community members for wanting to help charities and give people something to do? I think we should and yet all i see is people spouting negativity not just on this but other things. personally i never cared for having a carnival queen but a lot of people do and clearly what lysia is trying to do is make it better for the people who want to be involved and give people who might not have had the confidence before a chance. yeah ok there are no males but what do you exepect from something trying to keep this carnival queen thing alive - i wouldnt be interested. i just think its a **** shame that theres all this negativity for a young girl who could be making headlines for all the wrong reasons or causing trouble when shes just helping. imagine if this was your daughter. congratulations for being so accomodating with your responses lysia i wouldnt have responded myself. i dont want to argue i just get fed up with people being so downbeat. i congratulate anyone trying to make a difference to even one person. ok not everythings going to be your cup of tea: if we spent have as much time doing good things instead of putting the world to rights wed have a much better place. i know i'm no shakespeare i just wanted to say what i feel about this. lets keep up the good work community spirit. i used to love that about weymouth. SoldierSoldier
  • Score: 3

10:52pm Mon 13 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
LysiaMunday wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in?

http://www.faceofwor



ldpageants.com/?q=co



ntestants
http://www.faceofeur



ope.co.uk/

Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup?
Miss Weymouth was registered as a LTD company previously. I would prefer to operate as a stand alone event but due to wanting to maintain 100% transparency at all times, felt I should address that yes, there is a LTD company called Miss Weymouth that was not set up by myself.

The Face of the World is an optional prize for the senior winner. We will not force this on anyone. The finals take place in Disney and it was decided it would be a great experience for the winner to participate in. I've just visited the face of world pageants site and can confirm this is not the same contest!
I notice the faceofeurope site is in Disneyland so I presume that link is correct? My question remains, As the article states faceofthewolrd also, if my link is wrong, could you please post links to the correct faceoftheworld event to avoid any confusion?
Yes you are correct! Sorry I don't know how I missed that! It's Face of Europe & the world (but known as FOW).

I honestly, honestly wouldn't work with anyone who would isolate girls and women. FOW are really wonderful ladies doing a great thing for charity - it wouldn't mean anything to you by just looking at the pictures but the stories of each contestant taught me so much about being a better person and it was very overwhelming to spread awareness about my skin and have so much support. I actually cried - a lot! I'd never been made to feel so welcome! The girls ranged all different sizes, heights, hair colour, dress sense, ethnicity, backgrounds etc - it was an incredible experience. We all got to learn so much about Headway the charity - we even met the service users and heard their stories! At Christmas FOW did a HUGE hospital visit to the children and made their Christmas with material gifts and the greatest gift of time and care. It was great fun too!

I know this isn't to everyone's taste but I've seen what a difference it can make and even if it gives one girl a boost it's worth all this ping-pong and the effort that has gone into Miss Weymouth! I never expected everyone to agree and have actually been so overwhelmed by the amazing response to it! There is so much support. This is it's first year and what I say is if you've never made a mistake, you've never tried something new :)
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in? http://www.faceofwor ldpageants.com/?q=co ntestants http://www.faceofeur ope.co.uk/ Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup?[/p][/quote]Miss Weymouth was registered as a LTD company previously. I would prefer to operate as a stand alone event but due to wanting to maintain 100% transparency at all times, felt I should address that yes, there is a LTD company called Miss Weymouth that was not set up by myself. The Face of the World is an optional prize for the senior winner. We will not force this on anyone. The finals take place in Disney and it was decided it would be a great experience for the winner to participate in. I've just visited the face of world pageants site and can confirm this is not the same contest![/p][/quote]I notice the faceofeurope site is in Disneyland so I presume that link is correct? My question remains, As the article states faceofthewolrd also, if my link is wrong, could you please post links to the correct faceoftheworld event to avoid any confusion?[/p][/quote]Yes you are correct! Sorry I don't know how I missed that! It's Face of Europe & the world (but known as FOW). I honestly, honestly wouldn't work with anyone who would isolate girls and women. FOW are really wonderful ladies doing a great thing for charity - it wouldn't mean anything to you by just looking at the pictures but the stories of each contestant taught me so much about being a better person and it was very overwhelming to spread awareness about my skin and have so much support. I actually cried - a lot! I'd never been made to feel so welcome! The girls ranged all different sizes, heights, hair colour, dress sense, ethnicity, backgrounds etc - it was an incredible experience. We all got to learn so much about Headway the charity - we even met the service users and heard their stories! At Christmas FOW did a HUGE hospital visit to the children and made their Christmas with material gifts and the greatest gift of time and care. It was great fun too! I know this isn't to everyone's taste but I've seen what a difference it can make and even if it gives one girl a boost it's worth all this ping-pong and the effort that has gone into Miss Weymouth! I never expected everyone to agree and have actually been so overwhelmed by the amazing response to it! There is so much support. This is it's first year and what I say is if you've never made a mistake, you've never tried something new :) LysiaMunday
  • Score: 1

10:58pm Mon 13 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

SoldierSoldier wrote:
I cant believe all this. I'm always coming on here to read the comments: never commented myself until today because i dont like to spend all day debating. Im a local volunteer of a certain age and I've worked with this girl on a few things one fairly recent: she is very dedicated hardworking polite and to someone like me dare i say inspiring? despite her poor health. i would be flabbergasted if she was taking money and i know a good amount of people that would say the same. Fair enough you have your own views on this but the way you have been scrutinising this young girl is shocking. Should we not hail our young community members for wanting to help charities and give people something to do? I think we should and yet all i see is people spouting negativity not just on this but other things. personally i never cared for having a carnival queen but a lot of people do and clearly what lysia is trying to do is make it better for the people who want to be involved and give people who might not have had the confidence before a chance. yeah ok there are no males but what do you exepect from something trying to keep this carnival queen thing alive - i wouldnt be interested. i just think its a **** shame that theres all this negativity for a young girl who could be making headlines for all the wrong reasons or causing trouble when shes just helping. imagine if this was your daughter. congratulations for being so accomodating with your responses lysia i wouldnt have responded myself. i dont want to argue i just get fed up with people being so downbeat. i congratulate anyone trying to make a difference to even one person. ok not everythings going to be your cup of tea: if we spent have as much time doing good things instead of putting the world to rights wed have a much better place. i know i'm no shakespeare i just wanted to say what i feel about this. lets keep up the good work community spirit. i used to love that about weymouth.
Aww thank you! It's no trouble - with everything you get people who love it and people who don't - I expected this! It's part of life! But thanks again for your kind words, I'm not 100% sure who you are behind the Echo persona but I'm definitely sure I enjoyed working with you! And don't worry about not being Shakespeare - the best thing to be is yourself! :)

For every one negative feedback, there's been at least 20 positives - it's been an exciting day! It doesn't make those opposing opinions any less important though. Just means I'll have to take everything on board and work harder to make the things I do better next time, I love a challenge!

Take care x
[quote][p][bold]SoldierSoldier[/bold] wrote: I cant believe all this. I'm always coming on here to read the comments: never commented myself until today because i dont like to spend all day debating. Im a local volunteer of a certain age and I've worked with this girl on a few things one fairly recent: she is very dedicated hardworking polite and to someone like me dare i say inspiring? despite her poor health. i would be flabbergasted if she was taking money and i know a good amount of people that would say the same. Fair enough you have your own views on this but the way you have been scrutinising this young girl is shocking. Should we not hail our young community members for wanting to help charities and give people something to do? I think we should and yet all i see is people spouting negativity not just on this but other things. personally i never cared for having a carnival queen but a lot of people do and clearly what lysia is trying to do is make it better for the people who want to be involved and give people who might not have had the confidence before a chance. yeah ok there are no males but what do you exepect from something trying to keep this carnival queen thing alive - i wouldnt be interested. i just think its a **** shame that theres all this negativity for a young girl who could be making headlines for all the wrong reasons or causing trouble when shes just helping. imagine if this was your daughter. congratulations for being so accomodating with your responses lysia i wouldnt have responded myself. i dont want to argue i just get fed up with people being so downbeat. i congratulate anyone trying to make a difference to even one person. ok not everythings going to be your cup of tea: if we spent have as much time doing good things instead of putting the world to rights wed have a much better place. i know i'm no shakespeare i just wanted to say what i feel about this. lets keep up the good work community spirit. i used to love that about weymouth.[/p][/quote]Aww thank you! It's no trouble - with everything you get people who love it and people who don't - I expected this! It's part of life! But thanks again for your kind words, I'm not 100% sure who you are behind the Echo persona but I'm definitely sure I enjoyed working with you! And don't worry about not being Shakespeare - the best thing to be is yourself! :) For every one negative feedback, there's been at least 20 positives - it's been an exciting day! It doesn't make those opposing opinions any less important though. Just means I'll have to take everything on board and work harder to make the things I do better next time, I love a challenge! Take care x LysiaMunday
  • Score: 6

11:25pm Mon 13 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

I appreciate you confirming my links correct. I ask, where on these sites are women of all diverse shapes and sizes and no makeup that you make reference too? I feel that some of the women you are trying to attract may be given a false sense of reality and expectation. You talk of inner beauty, yet those sites as another commenter also pointed out, display nothing of that and everything of self-entitlement Princess culture and narcissism.

I do commend that you are making effort in something of course, but I have always found that people who need to feel better about themselves, usually do so for longer and in a more meaningful way, when celebrated for something they have actually achieved and which is tangible, rather than skin-deep platitudes? As for every one negative 20 positives, I think you will find it is the opposite in this thread .

All aside for a moment, clearly you wish to make effort so maybe you could really break the mold as it where and try a more "cerebral" approach to such an event, in doing so bring it and those who participate more meaningful merit? I wish you and your participants good luck if they can but if faceoftheworld and faceofeurope are the template, well......

Maybe when they attain such you will not fear having a dual gender competition for ambassador of the town or community based on equality of merit, until then they do not represent either.

Good luck.
I appreciate you confirming my links correct. I ask, where on these sites are women of all diverse shapes and sizes and no makeup that you make reference too? I feel that some of the women you are trying to attract may be given a false sense of reality and expectation. You talk of inner beauty, yet those sites as another commenter also pointed out, display nothing of that and everything of self-entitlement Princess culture and narcissism. I do commend that you are making effort in something of course, but I have always found that people who need to feel better about themselves, usually do so for longer and in a more meaningful way, when celebrated for something they have actually achieved and which is tangible, rather than skin-deep platitudes? As for every one negative 20 positives, I think you will find it is the opposite in this thread . All aside for a moment, clearly you wish to make effort so maybe you could really break the mold as it where and try a more "cerebral" approach to such an event, in doing so bring it and those who participate more meaningful merit? I wish you and your participants good luck if they can but if faceoftheworld and faceofeurope are the template, well...... Maybe when they attain such you will not fear having a dual gender competition for ambassador of the town or community based on equality of merit, until then they do not represent either. Good luck. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 5

12:26am Tue 14 Jan 14

popsiebabes says...

The bilge written here is proof of why Twitter is so superior when allowing only 140 characters.
The bilge written here is proof of why Twitter is so superior when allowing only 140 characters. popsiebabes
  • Score: -4

8:15am Tue 14 Jan 14

livid99 says...

I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really. livid99
  • Score: 6

8:44am Tue 14 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

livid99 wrote:
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves. woodsedge
  • Score: 2

9:00am Tue 14 Jan 14

emerald8@tiscali.co.uk says...

For the record I do support the carnival and those who volunteer to run it each year. From first hand experience it involves a lot of time and bloody hard work! This is not a personal attack on anyone involved in running it, and I'm glad that some of my concerns have now been addressed. However I do agree with David with reference to beauty pageants, I think competitions of this nature tend to encourage narcissism and a princess culture. I went to one a few year back and it didn't impress me. Why not concentrate on raising the profile of the carnival queen ( previous winners were hard working and did a lot for charity) and also give some thought for introducing a carnival king to keep an equal balance......just a thought?
For the record I do support the carnival and those who volunteer to run it each year. From first hand experience it involves a lot of time and bloody hard work! This is not a personal attack on anyone involved in running it, and I'm glad that some of my concerns have now been addressed. However I do agree with David with reference to beauty pageants, I think competitions of this nature tend to encourage narcissism and a princess culture. I went to one a few year back and it didn't impress me. Why not concentrate on raising the profile of the carnival queen ( previous winners were hard working and did a lot for charity) and also give some thought for introducing a carnival king to keep an equal balance......just a thought? emerald8@tiscali.co.uk
  • Score: 4

9:21am Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

livid99 wrote:
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
Do you ever complain about women speaking of equality livid99? Nah, thought not.

So you are hear complaining about other peoples complaining, how ironic. I myself have complained, as have a good few others about certain aspects of this event and rightfully so. You cannot claim to represent a community or town then exclude 50% of them from competing. That deserves to be complained about, if it was an all male event that claimed to represent everyone and they barr women, you watch the complaining happen then.

Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them.

People have a right to their opinion, we live in a world of second rate nonsense and double standards being accepted as the norm. We are told you cannot be "negative" about anything no matter how ridiculous it may be. Well if you cannot handle the real world, then the Karl Marx everybody is beige political correct unit is that-a-way----->

Meanwhile myself and I am sure many others, will continue to hold and express their individual opinions. Providing they offer valid points of complaint or debate the issue without foul language etc, I think that is fine.

If you actually gave a **** you would be debating the points raised in this thread, not just complaining about complaining that adds nothing.

I have offered an alternate idea about a dual gender competition as have one or two others, yet of course when real merit is asked and real equality put forward those who would normally be demanding it run away. Have you ever stopped to think a dual gender competition to represent the community would be more exciting, have more value and add a new aspect to it?
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]Do you ever complain about women speaking of equality livid99? Nah, thought not. So you are hear complaining about other peoples complaining, how ironic. I myself have complained, as have a good few others about certain aspects of this event and rightfully so. You cannot claim to represent a community or town then exclude 50% of them from competing. That deserves to be complained about, if it was an all male event that claimed to represent everyone and they barr women, you watch the complaining happen then. Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them. People have a right to their opinion, we live in a world of second rate nonsense and double standards being accepted as the norm. We are told you cannot be "negative" about anything no matter how ridiculous it may be. Well if you cannot handle the real world, then the Karl Marx everybody is beige political correct unit is that-a-way-----> Meanwhile myself and I am sure many others, will continue to hold and express their individual opinions. Providing they offer valid points of complaint or debate the issue without foul language etc, I think that is fine. If you actually gave a **** you would be debating the points raised in this thread, not just complaining about complaining that adds nothing. I have offered an alternate idea about a dual gender competition as have one or two others, yet of course when real merit is asked and real equality put forward those who would normally be demanding it run away. Have you ever stopped to think a dual gender competition to represent the community would be more exciting, have more value and add a new aspect to it? David_divenghy2
  • Score: -1

9:33am Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously.

You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again.

Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 1

10:14am Tue 14 Jan 14

livid99 says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
livid99 wrote:
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
Do you ever complain about women speaking of equality livid99? Nah, thought not.

So you are hear complaining about other peoples complaining, how ironic. I myself have complained, as have a good few others about certain aspects of this event and rightfully so. You cannot claim to represent a community or town then exclude 50% of them from competing. That deserves to be complained about, if it was an all male event that claimed to represent everyone and they barr women, you watch the complaining happen then.

Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them.

People have a right to their opinion, we live in a world of second rate nonsense and double standards being accepted as the norm. We are told you cannot be "negative" about anything no matter how ridiculous it may be. Well if you cannot handle the real world, then the Karl Marx everybody is beige political correct unit is that-a-way----->

Meanwhile myself and I am sure many others, will continue to hold and express their individual opinions. Providing they offer valid points of complaint or debate the issue without foul language etc, I think that is fine.

If you actually gave a **** you would be debating the points raised in this thread, not just complaining about complaining that adds nothing.

I have offered an alternate idea about a dual gender competition as have one or two others, yet of course when real merit is asked and real equality put forward those who would normally be demanding it run away. Have you ever stopped to think a dual gender competition to represent the community would be more exciting, have more value and add a new aspect to it?
You are very verbose about this subject aren't you ?......The event would be enjoyed by the kind of people who like to take part in these sort of shows - ie Girls .Why does equality have to come into EVERYTHING ?? Is it not possible to have events for girls just as there are other events which are generally boys only ? You would not be forced to watch it. Its the kind of thing to add to the fun to carnival day....Why is it such a problem for you ? Because you are prevented from competing ? Perhaps you just object to seeing people enjoying themselves ?
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]Do you ever complain about women speaking of equality livid99? Nah, thought not. So you are hear complaining about other peoples complaining, how ironic. I myself have complained, as have a good few others about certain aspects of this event and rightfully so. You cannot claim to represent a community or town then exclude 50% of them from competing. That deserves to be complained about, if it was an all male event that claimed to represent everyone and they barr women, you watch the complaining happen then. Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them. People have a right to their opinion, we live in a world of second rate nonsense and double standards being accepted as the norm. We are told you cannot be "negative" about anything no matter how ridiculous it may be. Well if you cannot handle the real world, then the Karl Marx everybody is beige political correct unit is that-a-way-----> Meanwhile myself and I am sure many others, will continue to hold and express their individual opinions. Providing they offer valid points of complaint or debate the issue without foul language etc, I think that is fine. If you actually gave a **** you would be debating the points raised in this thread, not just complaining about complaining that adds nothing. I have offered an alternate idea about a dual gender competition as have one or two others, yet of course when real merit is asked and real equality put forward those who would normally be demanding it run away. Have you ever stopped to think a dual gender competition to represent the community would be more exciting, have more value and add a new aspect to it?[/p][/quote]You are very verbose about this subject aren't you ?......The event would be enjoyed by the kind of people who like to take part in these sort of shows - ie Girls .Why does equality have to come into EVERYTHING ?? Is it not possible to have events for girls just as there are other events which are generally boys only ? You would not be forced to watch it. Its the kind of thing to add to the fun to carnival day....Why is it such a problem for you ? Because you are prevented from competing ? Perhaps you just object to seeing people enjoying themselves ? livid99
  • Score: -2

10:15am Tue 14 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.
did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website?

HAHAHAHA!

Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors.
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.[/p][/quote]did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website? HAHAHAHA! Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors. elloello1980
  • Score: -4

10:22am Tue 14 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously.

You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again.

Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.
Non ducor, duco
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.[/p][/quote]Non ducor, duco woodsedge
  • Score: -4

10:23am Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

elloello1980 wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.
did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website?

HAHAHAHA!

Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors.
Yes I have the amazing gift of owning a mobile device and being able to use them wherever I am, it's called the 21st Century. So other than showing your ignorance and infantile lack of ability to communicate, your point is?
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.[/p][/quote]did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website? HAHAHAHA! Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors.[/p][/quote]Yes I have the amazing gift of owning a mobile device and being able to use them wherever I am, it's called the 21st Century. So other than showing your ignorance and infantile lack of ability to communicate, your point is? David_divenghy2
  • Score: 2

10:34am Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

woodsedge wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously.

You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again.

Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.
Non ducor, duco
If that was so, then it is Funny how you only appear in places I have already been.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.[/p][/quote]Non ducor, duco[/p][/quote]If that was so, then it is Funny how you only appear in places I have already been. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 3

12:27pm Tue 14 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.
did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website? HAHAHAHA! Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors.
Yes I have the amazing gift of owning a mobile device and being able to use them wherever I am, it's called the 21st Century. So other than showing your ignorance and infantile lack of ability to communicate, your point is?
My point is you're a man in a dress who spends his days flicking through a number of accounts on Dorset Echo. you dear, need to stop worrying about rights for us men and go get yourself a hobbie. I recommend sowing
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.[/p][/quote]did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website? HAHAHAHA! Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors.[/p][/quote]Yes I have the amazing gift of owning a mobile device and being able to use them wherever I am, it's called the 21st Century. So other than showing your ignorance and infantile lack of ability to communicate, your point is?[/p][/quote]My point is you're a man in a dress who spends his days flicking through a number of accounts on Dorset Echo. you dear, need to stop worrying about rights for us men and go get yourself a hobbie. I recommend sowing elloello1980
  • Score: -3

12:32pm Tue 14 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

Just a quick comment regarding:

"Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them."

It VERY clearly states in the rules of application that we request that all Junior category entrants avoid makeup/heels/hairpie
ces - we do not and will not promote age inappropriate behaviour. The Junior category is set to run as more of a 'Child of the Year' type format.

The judging categories are as follows: Charity based interview, Personality, Communication and Approachability. None of which I personally feel are superficial values.

I hope this makes this a little clearer.
Just a quick comment regarding: "Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them." It VERY clearly states in the rules of application that we request that all Junior category entrants avoid makeup/heels/hairpie ces - we do not and will not promote age inappropriate behaviour. The Junior category is set to run as more of a 'Child of the Year' type format. The judging categories are as follows: Charity based interview, Personality, Communication and Approachability. None of which I personally feel are superficial values. I hope this makes this a little clearer. LysiaMunday
  • Score: 4

12:38pm Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

elloello1980 wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.
did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website? HAHAHAHA! Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors.
Yes I have the amazing gift of owning a mobile device and being able to use them wherever I am, it's called the 21st Century. So other than showing your ignorance and infantile lack of ability to communicate, your point is?
My point is you're a man in a dress who spends his days flicking through a number of accounts on Dorset Echo. you dear, need to stop worrying about rights for us men and go get yourself a hobbie. I recommend sowing
You have serious problems when you have to resort to such personal insult and baseless accusation to articulate yourself. No wonder you hiss at the prospect of man and woman competing on equal terms.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.[/p][/quote]did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website? HAHAHAHA! Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors.[/p][/quote]Yes I have the amazing gift of owning a mobile device and being able to use them wherever I am, it's called the 21st Century. So other than showing your ignorance and infantile lack of ability to communicate, your point is?[/p][/quote]My point is you're a man in a dress who spends his days flicking through a number of accounts on Dorset Echo. you dear, need to stop worrying about rights for us men and go get yourself a hobbie. I recommend sowing[/p][/quote]You have serious problems when you have to resort to such personal insult and baseless accusation to articulate yourself. No wonder you hiss at the prospect of man and woman competing on equal terms. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 2

1:00pm Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

LysiaMunday wrote:
Just a quick comment regarding:

"Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them."

It VERY clearly states in the rules of application that we request that all Junior category entrants avoid makeup/heels/hairpie

ces - we do not and will not promote age inappropriate behaviour. The Junior category is set to run as more of a 'Child of the Year' type format.

The judging categories are as follows: Charity based interview, Personality, Communication and Approachability. None of which I personally feel are superficial values.

I hope this makes this a little clearer.
Thank you Lysia for your clarification, I can only go by what I see on the faceofeurope/world site which is clearly little girls looking way beyond their years and plastered in makeup. I am glad to hear you do not follow this example and wish you the best with it.

I would also add that at least you have the ability to articulate yourself politely and converse sensibly on issues raised. I appreciate that and I see no reason why you are not more than capable of introducing a male and female combined event for "representing the community". In fact I do wonder that as it is a Ltd company if equality laws are in effect or any risk of misrepresentation or false advertising in regards to any company claim that you or your participants "represent the community or act as town ambassador", while 50% of them are barred from the event ? It is also officially unsanctioned so as someone else pointed out on what Authority is this claim made? It may be something you should look into ?

I have every confidence in your abilities, you seem like a nice young lady and I appreciate your coherent reply's , it is a shame that a few other females and those who claim to speak for them on here, can only manage to embarrass women. It is easy to see why those kind are threatened by a man's intelligence and having the prospect of competing on an properly equal playing field without a stacked deck, would worry them.

I am sure this is not the case with you and I look forward to hearing of a combined cross-gender event based on merit to represent the community in the future. I think it would be very interesting and I would pay to see that.

Thanks again.
[quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: Just a quick comment regarding: "Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them." It VERY clearly states in the rules of application that we request that all Junior category entrants avoid makeup/heels/hairpie ces - we do not and will not promote age inappropriate behaviour. The Junior category is set to run as more of a 'Child of the Year' type format. The judging categories are as follows: Charity based interview, Personality, Communication and Approachability. None of which I personally feel are superficial values. I hope this makes this a little clearer.[/p][/quote]Thank you Lysia for your clarification, I can only go by what I see on the faceofeurope/world site which is clearly little girls looking way beyond their years and plastered in makeup. I am glad to hear you do not follow this example and wish you the best with it. I would also add that at least you have the ability to articulate yourself politely and converse sensibly on issues raised. I appreciate that and I see no reason why you are not more than capable of introducing a male and female combined event for "representing the community". In fact I do wonder that as it is a Ltd company if equality laws are in effect or any risk of misrepresentation or false advertising in regards to any company claim that you or your participants "represent the community or act as town ambassador", while 50% of them are barred from the event ? It is also officially unsanctioned so as someone else pointed out on what Authority is this claim made? It may be something you should look into ? I have every confidence in your abilities, you seem like a nice young lady and I appreciate your coherent reply's , it is a shame that a few other females and those who claim to speak for them on here, can only manage to embarrass women. It is easy to see why those kind are threatened by a man's intelligence and having the prospect of competing on an properly equal playing field without a stacked deck, would worry them. I am sure this is not the case with you and I look forward to hearing of a combined cross-gender event based on merit to represent the community in the future. I think it would be very interesting and I would pay to see that. Thanks again. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 4

1:06pm Tue 14 Jan 14

livid99 says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
LysiaMunday wrote:
Just a quick comment regarding:

"Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them."

It VERY clearly states in the rules of application that we request that all Junior category entrants avoid makeup/heels/hairpie


ces - we do not and will not promote age inappropriate behaviour. The Junior category is set to run as more of a 'Child of the Year' type format.

The judging categories are as follows: Charity based interview, Personality, Communication and Approachability. None of which I personally feel are superficial values.

I hope this makes this a little clearer.
Thank you Lysia for your clarification, I can only go by what I see on the faceofeurope/world site which is clearly little girls looking way beyond their years and plastered in makeup. I am glad to hear you do not follow this example and wish you the best with it.

I would also add that at least you have the ability to articulate yourself politely and converse sensibly on issues raised. I appreciate that and I see no reason why you are not more than capable of introducing a male and female combined event for "representing the community". In fact I do wonder that as it is a Ltd company if equality laws are in effect or any risk of misrepresentation or false advertising in regards to any company claim that you or your participants "represent the community or act as town ambassador", while 50% of them are barred from the event ? It is also officially unsanctioned so as someone else pointed out on what Authority is this claim made? It may be something you should look into ?

I have every confidence in your abilities, you seem like a nice young lady and I appreciate your coherent reply's , it is a shame that a few other females and those who claim to speak for them on here, can only manage to embarrass women. It is easy to see why those kind are threatened by a man's intelligence and having the prospect of competing on an properly equal playing field without a stacked deck, would worry them.

I am sure this is not the case with you and I look forward to hearing of a combined cross-gender event based on merit to represent the community in the future. I think it would be very interesting and I would pay to see that.

Thanks again.
You are very verbose about this subject aren't you ?......The event would be enjoyed by the kind of people who like to take part in these sort of shows - ie Girls .Why does equality have to come into EVERYTHING ?? Is it not possible to have events for girls just as there are other events which are generally boys only ? You would not be forced to watch it. Its the kind of thing to add to the fun to carnival day....Why is it such a problem for you ? Because you are prevented from competing ? Perhaps you just object to seeing people enjoying themselves ?
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: Just a quick comment regarding: "Also judging very young children covered in make up looking way too old for their years, to be judged by adults on superficial values is inappropriate and frankly a little disturbing, anyone would be absolutely right to express concerns about that and ask what kind of values that is teaching them." It VERY clearly states in the rules of application that we request that all Junior category entrants avoid makeup/heels/hairpie ces - we do not and will not promote age inappropriate behaviour. The Junior category is set to run as more of a 'Child of the Year' type format. The judging categories are as follows: Charity based interview, Personality, Communication and Approachability. None of which I personally feel are superficial values. I hope this makes this a little clearer.[/p][/quote]Thank you Lysia for your clarification, I can only go by what I see on the faceofeurope/world site which is clearly little girls looking way beyond their years and plastered in makeup. I am glad to hear you do not follow this example and wish you the best with it. I would also add that at least you have the ability to articulate yourself politely and converse sensibly on issues raised. I appreciate that and I see no reason why you are not more than capable of introducing a male and female combined event for "representing the community". In fact I do wonder that as it is a Ltd company if equality laws are in effect or any risk of misrepresentation or false advertising in regards to any company claim that you or your participants "represent the community or act as town ambassador", while 50% of them are barred from the event ? It is also officially unsanctioned so as someone else pointed out on what Authority is this claim made? It may be something you should look into ? I have every confidence in your abilities, you seem like a nice young lady and I appreciate your coherent reply's , it is a shame that a few other females and those who claim to speak for them on here, can only manage to embarrass women. It is easy to see why those kind are threatened by a man's intelligence and having the prospect of competing on an properly equal playing field without a stacked deck, would worry them. I am sure this is not the case with you and I look forward to hearing of a combined cross-gender event based on merit to represent the community in the future. I think it would be very interesting and I would pay to see that. Thanks again.[/p][/quote]You are very verbose about this subject aren't you ?......The event would be enjoyed by the kind of people who like to take part in these sort of shows - ie Girls .Why does equality have to come into EVERYTHING ?? Is it not possible to have events for girls just as there are other events which are generally boys only ? You would not be forced to watch it. Its the kind of thing to add to the fun to carnival day....Why is it such a problem for you ? Because you are prevented from competing ? Perhaps you just object to seeing people enjoying themselves ? livid99
  • Score: -4

1:19pm Tue 14 Jan 14

emerald8@tiscali.co.uk says...

Fortunately I have to agree with David. I would love to see a male and female community champion in this years carnival. There are so many silent one's within our community who never get recognition for their good work. Perhaps this could be adopted this year? Now that I do like !
Fortunately I have to agree with David. I would love to see a male and female community champion in this years carnival. There are so many silent one's within our community who never get recognition for their good work. Perhaps this could be adopted this year? Now that I do like ! emerald8@tiscali.co.uk
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Tue 14 Jan 14

emerald8@tiscali.co.uk says...

Oh and I'd just like to add buy them a nice dress/ suit and let them represent the community !
Oh and I'd just like to add buy them a nice dress/ suit and let them represent the community ! emerald8@tiscali.co.uk
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Tue 14 Jan 14

JamesYoung says...

woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name. JamesYoung
  • Score: -3

1:33pm Tue 14 Jan 14

JamesYoung says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in?

http://www.faceofwor

ldpageants.com/?q=co

ntestants
http://www.faceofeur

ope.co.uk/

Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup?
Why are you "not surprised". A limited company is a perfectly valid way of setting up a business. It maintains separation between the individuals behind it and it also means that if this enterprise goes belly up or makes a loss, the individuals behind it won't make a loss. There are plenty of companies in the voluntary sector using this model (although if this is a long term enterprise there are better ones to use). I suspect your surprise may have more to do with your ignorance than anything else. Seriously, stop knocking somebody's efforts at raising a bit of cash.
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: I am not surprised to find out this is a Ltd company. Has anyone taken a look at the faceofeurope and faceof theworld websites that they claim these local contestants aupposedly end up involved in? http://www.faceofwor ldpageants.com/?q=co ntestants http://www.faceofeur ope.co.uk/ Where are these women of all shapes and sizes without makeup?[/p][/quote]Why are you "not surprised". A limited company is a perfectly valid way of setting up a business. It maintains separation between the individuals behind it and it also means that if this enterprise goes belly up or makes a loss, the individuals behind it won't make a loss. There are plenty of companies in the voluntary sector using this model (although if this is a long term enterprise there are better ones to use). I suspect your surprise may have more to do with your ignorance than anything else. Seriously, stop knocking somebody's efforts at raising a bit of cash. JamesYoung
  • Score: 1

1:37pm Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

Excellent!! Bravo!!!

A woman not afraid of the real thing and needing no excuses and insults or baseless allegations like the other more feeble minded here, How utterly refreshing and wonderful to hear.

Start of something new perhaps? It would be very interesting indeed and I think more attractive to a wider audience if fundraising is your thing.
Excellent!! Bravo!!! A woman not afraid of the real thing and needing no excuses and insults or baseless allegations like the other more feeble minded here, How utterly refreshing and wonderful to hear. Start of something new perhaps? It would be very interesting indeed and I think more attractive to a wider audience if fundraising is your thing. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 2

1:39pm Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

That was for emerald8 btw, forgot to hit quote.
That was for emerald8 btw, forgot to hit quote. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 0

1:43pm Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

emerald8@tiscali.co.
uk
wrote:
Fortunately I have to agree with David. I would love to see a male and female community champion in this years carnival. There are so many silent one's within our community who never get recognition for their good work. Perhaps this could be adopted this year? Now that I do like !
Sorry I was replying to this one.
[quote][p][bold]emerald8@tiscali.co. uk[/bold] wrote: Fortunately I have to agree with David. I would love to see a male and female community champion in this years carnival. There are so many silent one's within our community who never get recognition for their good work. Perhaps this could be adopted this year? Now that I do like ![/p][/quote]Sorry I was replying to this one. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 3

1:47pm Tue 14 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

JamesYoung wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name.
Nail firmly hit on the head James. Cyril is obviously confusing himself with all the different account he has on the echo. He keeps replying to the wrong poster or replying without nameing the person he is responding to! Perhaps the medication needs adjusting. All joking to one side it is a shame that those citizens that attempt to do something positive in our community, have their efforts turned into a male v female issue by someone who has a very twisted view of equality.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name.[/p][/quote]Nail firmly hit on the head James. Cyril is obviously confusing himself with all the different account he has on the echo. He keeps replying to the wrong poster or replying without nameing the person he is responding to! Perhaps the medication needs adjusting. All joking to one side it is a shame that those citizens that attempt to do something positive in our community, have their efforts turned into a male v female issue by someone who has a very twisted view of equality. woodsedge
  • Score: -1

1:48pm Tue 14 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.
did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website? HAHAHAHA! Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors.
Yes I have the amazing gift of owning a mobile device and being able to use them wherever I am, it's called the 21st Century. So other than showing your ignorance and infantile lack of ability to communicate, your point is?
My point is you're a man in a dress who spends his days flicking through a number of accounts on Dorset Echo. you dear, need to stop worrying about rights for us men and go get yourself a hobbie. I recommend sowing
You have serious problems when you have to resort to such personal insult and baseless accusation to articulate yourself. No wonder you hiss at the prospect of man and woman competing on equal terms.
personal? aww, here she goes again.. I don't know you. still personal?

I chuckle, you stress ;)
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]Woodsedge, when you grow a brain and are capable of anything except put-downs, name calling, unsubstantiated accusation and the like, instead of running away from every debate and question put to you as you have done time and time again, people might take you more seriously. You are an embarrassment to any woman of real merit Woodsedge. A typical feminist mind as you have proven over and over again. Who am I today Woodsedge? What one of your imaginary people am I this time?. You won't debate, you are incapable and you know when it comes to those issues you hate me revealing, I am right. That's why you run away form debating the facts. I am always ready and willing to take you on in debate dear, though we all know you would soon be reduced ot thew usual tactics.[/p][/quote]did you really spend most of yesterday on the Dorset Echo Website? HAHAHAHA! Another one that sits in an armchair with an opinion on everything, but does little more about it than speak with anonymous local paper commentors.[/p][/quote]Yes I have the amazing gift of owning a mobile device and being able to use them wherever I am, it's called the 21st Century. So other than showing your ignorance and infantile lack of ability to communicate, your point is?[/p][/quote]My point is you're a man in a dress who spends his days flicking through a number of accounts on Dorset Echo. you dear, need to stop worrying about rights for us men and go get yourself a hobbie. I recommend sowing[/p][/quote]You have serious problems when you have to resort to such personal insult and baseless accusation to articulate yourself. No wonder you hiss at the prospect of man and woman competing on equal terms.[/p][/quote]personal? aww, here she goes again.. I don't know you. still personal? I chuckle, you stress ;) elloello1980
  • Score: -3

1:51pm Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

woodsedge wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah.....
Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints.
Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name.
Nail firmly hit on the head James. Cyril is obviously confusing himself with all the different account he has on the echo. He keeps replying to the wrong poster or replying without nameing the person he is responding to! Perhaps the medication needs adjusting. All joking to one side it is a shame that those citizens that attempt to do something positive in our community, have their efforts turned into a male v female issue by someone who has a very twisted view of equality.
Only a feminist like you could think that wanting a male vs female competition with both on an even playing field judged on merit is twisted.

Sorry but all your efforts to undermine this thread have failed. One lady just buried you a few commnents ago.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name.[/p][/quote]Nail firmly hit on the head James. Cyril is obviously confusing himself with all the different account he has on the echo. He keeps replying to the wrong poster or replying without nameing the person he is responding to! Perhaps the medication needs adjusting. All joking to one side it is a shame that those citizens that attempt to do something positive in our community, have their efforts turned into a male v female issue by someone who has a very twisted view of equality.[/p][/quote]Only a feminist like you could think that wanting a male vs female competition with both on an even playing field judged on merit is twisted. Sorry but all your efforts to undermine this thread have failed. One lady just buried you a few commnents ago. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 2

1:51pm Tue 14 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

woodsedge wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name.
Nail firmly hit on the head James. Cyril is obviously confusing himself with all the different account he has on the echo. He keeps replying to the wrong poster or replying without nameing the person he is responding to! Perhaps the medication needs adjusting. All joking to one side it is a shame that those citizens that attempt to do something positive in our community, have their efforts turned into a male v female issue by someone who has a very twisted view of equality.
hahaha! so obvious.

He/She has tried ruining so many stories with this biased men's rights campaign.

I'll say it again, Elysia you are doing a great job! And you are B-E-A-UTIFUL. Both inside and out it seems :)
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name.[/p][/quote]Nail firmly hit on the head James. Cyril is obviously confusing himself with all the different account he has on the echo. He keeps replying to the wrong poster or replying without nameing the person he is responding to! Perhaps the medication needs adjusting. All joking to one side it is a shame that those citizens that attempt to do something positive in our community, have their efforts turned into a male v female issue by someone who has a very twisted view of equality.[/p][/quote]hahaha! so obvious. He/She has tried ruining so many stories with this biased men's rights campaign. I'll say it again, Elysia you are doing a great job! And you are B-E-A-UTIFUL. Both inside and out it seems :) elloello1980
  • Score: -3

1:56pm Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

elloello1980 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.
I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.
I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name.
Nail firmly hit on the head James. Cyril is obviously confusing himself with all the different account he has on the echo. He keeps replying to the wrong poster or replying without nameing the person he is responding to! Perhaps the medication needs adjusting. All joking to one side it is a shame that those citizens that attempt to do something positive in our community, have their efforts turned into a male v female issue by someone who has a very twisted view of equality.
hahaha! so obvious.

He/She has tried ruining so many stories with this biased men's rights campaign.

I'll say it again, Elysia you are doing a great job! And you are B-E-A-UTIFUL. Both inside and out it seems :)
Now the real femi-intelligence comes out..sit back and see why they need a stacked deck with everything in life while they undermine any women of real merit.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I think the reaction to this story displays in a nutshell why Weymouth is in such a sorry state. In these gloomy times, someone makes an effort to inject a bit of life into an old and failing traditional event, and what happens ? People like David_divenghy2 whinge and moan and complain and go on and on about equality and blah,blah,blah..... Other seaside resorts are vibrant, but whenever anything happens in Weymouth there is no support, only complaints. Sad to see really.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you. What you have to remember is that David 'no life away from his keyboard' divenghy posts negative comments on every topic from the recent storms to this current thread. He is a troll of the worse type and really has a problem with the female gender. I take my hat off to LysiaMunday and other members of our community who volunteer their time for others. Best advice is to ignore divenghy and all the other names he posts under and not to give him the attention he craves.[/p][/quote]I notice you keep getting the same number of dislikes. I also notice that the lady concerned keeps getting dislikes for her perfectly reasonable replies. I suspect our old troll friend Cyril has re-emerged with a new pen name.[/p][/quote]Nail firmly hit on the head James. Cyril is obviously confusing himself with all the different account he has on the echo. He keeps replying to the wrong poster or replying without nameing the person he is responding to! Perhaps the medication needs adjusting. All joking to one side it is a shame that those citizens that attempt to do something positive in our community, have their efforts turned into a male v female issue by someone who has a very twisted view of equality.[/p][/quote]hahaha! so obvious. He/She has tried ruining so many stories with this biased men's rights campaign. I'll say it again, Elysia you are doing a great job! And you are B-E-A-UTIFUL. Both inside and out it seems :)[/p][/quote]Now the real femi-intelligence comes out..sit back and see why they need a stacked deck with everything in life while they undermine any women of real merit. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 4

1:59pm Tue 14 Jan 14

livid99 says...

I give up. I'm obviously missing some history here and have no idea whether this David character is a man or a feminist woman.
Good luck with the event Elysia anyway, and congratulations on trying to actually do something positive for the town.
I give up. I'm obviously missing some history here and have no idea whether this David character is a man or a feminist woman. Good luck with the event Elysia anyway, and congratulations on trying to actually do something positive for the town. livid99
  • Score: 1

2:13pm Tue 14 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

livid99 wrote:
I give up. I'm obviously missing some history here and have no idea whether this David character is a man or a feminist woman.
Good luck with the event Elysia anyway, and congratulations on trying to actually do something positive for the town.
Your right livid99, David is very confused! May I add my congratulations Elysia and I know you will make this a success.
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: I give up. I'm obviously missing some history here and have no idea whether this David character is a man or a feminist woman. Good luck with the event Elysia anyway, and congratulations on trying to actually do something positive for the town.[/p][/quote]Your right livid99, David is very confused! May I add my congratulations Elysia and I know you will make this a success. woodsedge
  • Score: 1

2:43pm Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

All that thread just from essentially asking for an event of real equality and merit that is all inclusive for everybody on a level playing field to compete for representing the whole community.

How afraid so many of those speaking for women must be, of competing with men on a level playing field? One can only draw from all the personal attacks, silly comments of no substance and desperate attempts to undermine any debate on this, that THEY are saying women are simply not good enough.

They even drowned out and down voted one woman who agreed with it and wanted it in the event. Sorry ladies, you have been done a disservice by them today. I thought you was capable of such an event, it seems I must be wrong?
All that thread just from essentially asking for an event of real equality and merit that is all inclusive for everybody on a level playing field to compete for representing the whole community. How afraid so many of those speaking for women must be, of competing with men on a level playing field? One can only draw from all the personal attacks, silly comments of no substance and desperate attempts to undermine any debate on this, that THEY are saying women are simply not good enough. They even drowned out and down voted one woman who agreed with it and wanted it in the event. Sorry ladies, you have been done a disservice by them today. I thought you was capable of such an event, it seems I must be wrong? David_divenghy2
  • Score: -1

3:39pm Tue 14 Jan 14

livid99 says...

As I said, what is so wrong with having an event just for women ? There are plenty of things going on for everyone....why does EVERYTHING have to be ruled by equality ? This is my third time asking this as you have not answered previously. Does EVERYTHING have tpo be open to everyone ?
As I said, what is so wrong with having an event just for women ? There are plenty of things going on for everyone....why does EVERYTHING have to be ruled by equality ? This is my third time asking this as you have not answered previously. Does EVERYTHING have tpo be open to everyone ? livid99
  • Score: 0

4:05pm Tue 14 Jan 14

LysiaMunday says...

Miss Weymouth will go ahead. It isn't tied to the Carnival however it was agreed that the winners would be the Carnival Queens on the day. The Carnival is big enough to recognise a community champ too! The role of Miss Weymouth is a local ambassador who will get involved in fundraising, supporting local good causes and events. There's nothing at all stopping there being a mixed gender event too. I personally feel that the Miss Weymouth format, having evolved from Carnival Queen, is not something that men wish to participate in and I have done research as part of planning as it was one of the original ideas. I always encourage people that if you believe in something strongly enough, make it happen; We are a community and should support each other in doing so.

I completely agree that there is room for a community champion - a really great idea and I am very surprised that there isn't one already. I would love to see this happen. In fact, saying that, I actually think Wessex FM run local hero awards annually??? Don't quote me on that... But my first nomination would be the Randall brothers for their tremendous work at Chesil this weekend! Such a pleasure working with them - the true, and very modest, heroes!

I have been completely overwhelmed by the outstanding supportive response to this new format - my phone didn't stop ringing yesterday and the messages of support are still rolling in in double figures. Yes of course there are people who don't like the idea, but not everyone likes marmite. They key thing here is that people have the chance to voice their opinion and know that they have been listened to, because I promise you I am listening and will do all I can to make this as beneficial to those who participate and The Weldmar Hopsice.

I am not put off by all the negative votes on my comments because I know I have been very reasonable, honest and transparent; my main aim of replying to this thread is to provide information on the contest.

Thank you to all who have posted kind comments on here - it really means a great deal to have your support. And thank you to all who have shared an opinion. I think I will leave this conversation for now but if anyone has any further questions or suggestions, my email is in the article above - I'm always very happy to provide an open and honest answer to your inquiries! :) Take care everyone!
Miss Weymouth will go ahead. It isn't tied to the Carnival however it was agreed that the winners would be the Carnival Queens on the day. The Carnival is big enough to recognise a community champ too! The role of Miss Weymouth is a local ambassador who will get involved in fundraising, supporting local good causes and events. There's nothing at all stopping there being a mixed gender event too. I personally feel that the Miss Weymouth format, having evolved from Carnival Queen, is not something that men wish to participate in and I have done research as part of planning as it was one of the original ideas. I always encourage people that if you believe in something strongly enough, make it happen; We are a community and should support each other in doing so. I completely agree that there is room for a community champion - a really great idea and I am very surprised that there isn't one already. I would love to see this happen. In fact, saying that, I actually think Wessex FM run local hero awards annually??? Don't quote me on that... But my first nomination would be the Randall brothers for their tremendous work at Chesil this weekend! Such a pleasure working with them - the true, and very modest, heroes! I have been completely overwhelmed by the outstanding supportive response to this new format - my phone didn't stop ringing yesterday and the messages of support are still rolling in in double figures. Yes of course there are people who don't like the idea, but not everyone likes marmite. They key thing here is that people have the chance to voice their opinion and know that they have been listened to, because I promise you I am listening and will do all I can to make this as beneficial to those who participate and The Weldmar Hopsice. I am not put off by all the negative votes on my comments because I know I have been very reasonable, honest and transparent; my main aim of replying to this thread is to provide information on the contest. Thank you to all who have posted kind comments on here - it really means a great deal to have your support. And thank you to all who have shared an opinion. I think I will leave this conversation for now but if anyone has any further questions or suggestions, my email is in the article above - I'm always very happy to provide an open and honest answer to your inquiries! :) Take care everyone! LysiaMunday
  • Score: 9

5:08pm Tue 14 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
All that thread just from essentially asking for an event of real equality and merit that is all inclusive for everybody on a level playing field to compete for representing the whole community. How afraid so many of those speaking for women must be, of competing with men on a level playing field? One can only draw from all the personal attacks, silly comments of no substance and desperate attempts to undermine any debate on this, that THEY are saying women are simply not good enough. They even drowned out and down voted one woman who agreed with it and wanted it in the event. Sorry ladies, you have been done a disservice by them today. I thought you was capable of such an event, it seems I must be wrong?
are you implying men are better than women? Careful sweet-cheeks
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: All that thread just from essentially asking for an event of real equality and merit that is all inclusive for everybody on a level playing field to compete for representing the whole community. How afraid so many of those speaking for women must be, of competing with men on a level playing field? One can only draw from all the personal attacks, silly comments of no substance and desperate attempts to undermine any debate on this, that THEY are saying women are simply not good enough. They even drowned out and down voted one woman who agreed with it and wanted it in the event. Sorry ladies, you have been done a disservice by them today. I thought you was capable of such an event, it seems I must be wrong?[/p][/quote]are you implying men are better than women? Careful sweet-cheeks elloello1980
  • Score: -5

5:41pm Tue 14 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

LysiaMunday wrote:
Miss Weymouth will go ahead. It isn't tied to the Carnival however it was agreed that the winners would be the Carnival Queens on the day. The Carnival is big enough to recognise a community champ too! The role of Miss Weymouth is a local ambassador who will get involved in fundraising, supporting local good causes and events. There's nothing at all stopping there being a mixed gender event too. I personally feel that the Miss Weymouth format, having evolved from Carnival Queen, is not something that men wish to participate in and I have done research as part of planning as it was one of the original ideas. I always encourage people that if you believe in something strongly enough, make it happen; We are a community and should support each other in doing so.

I completely agree that there is room for a community champion - a really great idea and I am very surprised that there isn't one already. I would love to see this happen. In fact, saying that, I actually think Wessex FM run local hero awards annually??? Don't quote me on that... But my first nomination would be the Randall brothers for their tremendous work at Chesil this weekend! Such a pleasure working with them - the true, and very modest, heroes!

I have been completely overwhelmed by the outstanding supportive response to this new format - my phone didn't stop ringing yesterday and the messages of support are still rolling in in double figures. Yes of course there are people who don't like the idea, but not everyone likes marmite. They key thing here is that people have the chance to voice their opinion and know that they have been listened to, because I promise you I am listening and will do all I can to make this as beneficial to those who participate and The Weldmar Hopsice.

I am not put off by all the negative votes on my comments because I know I have been very reasonable, honest and transparent; my main aim of replying to this thread is to provide information on the contest.

Thank you to all who have posted kind comments on here - it really means a great deal to have your support. And thank you to all who have shared an opinion. I think I will leave this conversation for now but if anyone has any further questions or suggestions, my email is in the article above - I'm always very happy to provide an open and honest answer to your inquiries! :) Take care everyone!
If you put carnival queen to men, of course they won't want to participate.

The only thing I have serious issue with, is calling your organisation or any of its participants, "representative of the community", or "town ambassadors". Aside from the fact you are not officially sanctioned to make such a statement, nor have you been elected in any recognised way, it is a complete misrepresentation and falsehood. You cannot use such a statement unless every member of that community or Town has had equal opportunity to participate in becoming such. If you want to call it representative of women, that's fine, that's more honest.

Lets be frank, if we have a men's only event , declaring it represents the whole community or town, but then bans every woman from participating, do you believe that would be acceptable for one minute? Of course not, I would not accept that either.

If you want to have a "beauty contest" for only women, that's fine. No problem, just do not make those claims or statements, that's all. I mean a group of women parading around with little real merit cooing sounds of self-validation to each other, represent very little, let alone a whole community.

From a business/fund raising stand point I would think that a proper dual gender contest for a, "community representative or ambassador" would appeal to a wider audience and raise more. It would also be a lot more interesting. I am glad you are open to that and look forward to seeing your organisation undertaking it. Then you can rightfully say it represents the community or that its participants are ambassadors.

Again, I wish you good luck with that and yes I would pay to see it....
[quote][p][bold]LysiaMunday[/bold] wrote: Miss Weymouth will go ahead. It isn't tied to the Carnival however it was agreed that the winners would be the Carnival Queens on the day. The Carnival is big enough to recognise a community champ too! The role of Miss Weymouth is a local ambassador who will get involved in fundraising, supporting local good causes and events. There's nothing at all stopping there being a mixed gender event too. I personally feel that the Miss Weymouth format, having evolved from Carnival Queen, is not something that men wish to participate in and I have done research as part of planning as it was one of the original ideas. I always encourage people that if you believe in something strongly enough, make it happen; We are a community and should support each other in doing so. I completely agree that there is room for a community champion - a really great idea and I am very surprised that there isn't one already. I would love to see this happen. In fact, saying that, I actually think Wessex FM run local hero awards annually??? Don't quote me on that... But my first nomination would be the Randall brothers for their tremendous work at Chesil this weekend! Such a pleasure working with them - the true, and very modest, heroes! I have been completely overwhelmed by the outstanding supportive response to this new format - my phone didn't stop ringing yesterday and the messages of support are still rolling in in double figures. Yes of course there are people who don't like the idea, but not everyone likes marmite. They key thing here is that people have the chance to voice their opinion and know that they have been listened to, because I promise you I am listening and will do all I can to make this as beneficial to those who participate and The Weldmar Hopsice. I am not put off by all the negative votes on my comments because I know I have been very reasonable, honest and transparent; my main aim of replying to this thread is to provide information on the contest. Thank you to all who have posted kind comments on here - it really means a great deal to have your support. And thank you to all who have shared an opinion. I think I will leave this conversation for now but if anyone has any further questions or suggestions, my email is in the article above - I'm always very happy to provide an open and honest answer to your inquiries! :) Take care everyone![/p][/quote]If you put carnival queen to men, of course they won't want to participate. The only thing I have serious issue with, is calling your organisation or any of its participants, "representative of the community", or "town ambassadors". Aside from the fact you are not officially sanctioned to make such a statement, nor have you been elected in any recognised way, it is a complete misrepresentation and falsehood. You cannot use such a statement unless every member of that community or Town has had equal opportunity to participate in becoming such. If you want to call it representative of women, that's fine, that's more honest. Lets be frank, if we have a men's only event , declaring it represents the whole community or town, but then bans every woman from participating, do you believe that would be acceptable for one minute? Of course not, I would not accept that either. If you want to have a "beauty contest" for only women, that's fine. No problem, just do not make those claims or statements, that's all. I mean a group of women parading around with little real merit cooing sounds of self-validation to each other, represent very little, let alone a whole community. From a business/fund raising stand point I would think that a proper dual gender contest for a, "community representative or ambassador" would appeal to a wider audience and raise more. It would also be a lot more interesting. I am glad you are open to that and look forward to seeing your organisation undertaking it. Then you can rightfully say it represents the community or that its participants are ambassadors. Again, I wish you good luck with that and yes I would pay to see it.... David_divenghy2
  • Score: 2

9:29pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

Seriously - we have the head of dcc telling us he's not only going to get us to give him a bj, but he's going to cone in our mouth as well - and a story about a beauty show garners about ten times as much interest.
Weymouth and Dorset - you deserve all you get...
Seriously - we have the head of dcc telling us he's not only going to get us to give him a bj, but he's going to cone in our mouth as well - and a story about a beauty show garners about ten times as much interest. Weymouth and Dorset - you deserve all you get... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -2

3:20pm Sat 18 Jan 14

hetstar says...

Oh lordy, let's just let David_divenghy2 have the last word so he can go away and find something else to get on his high horse about. LysiaMunday keep up the good work. Out here in Oz we have all sorts of Personality Quests, Miss Showgirl contests, Summer Surfgirl contests - all of which focus on community work and charity fundraising. Yes there are age limits set, and yes they are for girls only. The men and boys don’t whinge about it - they get behind the girls and support them. On the other hand we also have Miss Bikini Babe, Miss V8 Supercars - heck I’ve even seen a local bar run a Miss MILF contest! (And the guys certainly don’t whinge about those). I’m a chick and I am “excluded” from any of these contests either because of my age or my lack of “assets”, or both. But I’m not offended and nor do I need anyone to be offended on my behalf. Why is it so wrong to admire a particularly beautiful example of Mother Nature’s handiwork? Even better if the girl in question has a cracking personality and is putting it to good use in her community. Throughout history, men’s fear and distrust of female beauty and sexuality has seen them dream up all manner of ways to suppress and control it - whether it’s doing away with beauty pageants or covering us up with veils. Sadly some guys will never learn to deal with the effect that the sight of boobs and bums has on them and will forever blame us - even hate us - for it.
Oh lordy, let's just let David_divenghy2 have the last word so he can go away and find something else to get on his high horse about. LysiaMunday keep up the good work. Out here in Oz we have all sorts of Personality Quests, Miss Showgirl contests, Summer Surfgirl contests - all of which focus on community work and charity fundraising. Yes there are age limits set, and yes they are for girls only. The men and boys don’t whinge about it - they get behind the girls and support them. On the other hand we also have Miss Bikini Babe, Miss V8 Supercars - heck I’ve even seen a local bar run a Miss MILF contest! (And the guys certainly don’t whinge about those). I’m a chick and I am “excluded” from any of these contests either because of my age or my lack of “assets”, or both. But I’m not offended and nor do I need anyone to be offended on my behalf. Why is it so wrong to admire a particularly beautiful example of Mother Nature’s handiwork? Even better if the girl in question has a cracking personality and is putting it to good use in her community. Throughout history, men’s fear and distrust of female beauty and sexuality has seen them dream up all manner of ways to suppress and control it - whether it’s doing away with beauty pageants or covering us up with veils. Sadly some guys will never learn to deal with the effect that the sight of boobs and bums has on them and will forever blame us - even hate us - for it. hetstar
  • Score: -4

9:34am Sun 19 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

hetstar wrote:
Oh lordy, let's just let David_divenghy2 have the last word so he can go away and find something else to get on his high horse about. LysiaMunday keep up the good work. Out here in Oz we have all sorts of Personality Quests, Miss Showgirl contests, Summer Surfgirl contests - all of which focus on community work and charity fundraising. Yes there are age limits set, and yes they are for girls only. The men and boys don’t whinge about it - they get behind the girls and support them. On the other hand we also have Miss Bikini Babe, Miss V8 Supercars - heck I’ve even seen a local bar run a Miss MILF contest! (And the guys certainly don’t whinge about those). I’m a chick and I am “excluded” from any of these contests either because of my age or my lack of “assets”, or both. But I’m not offended and nor do I need anyone to be offended on my behalf. Why is it so wrong to admire a particularly beautiful example of Mother Nature’s handiwork? Even better if the girl in question has a cracking personality and is putting it to good use in her community. Throughout history, men’s fear and distrust of female beauty and sexuality has seen them dream up all manner of ways to suppress and control it - whether it’s doing away with beauty pageants or covering us up with veils. Sadly some guys will never learn to deal with the effect that the sight of boobs and bums has on them and will forever blame us - even hate us - for it.
What a shame you didn't actually bother reading the thread before commenting, the only objection was that a contest was claiming to find a community representative or town ambassador, then banning half of that community from the opportunity to compete to represent it, which is a perfectly reasonable and logical objection. Nobody what so ever has objected to some beauty contest for females if it makes no such claims..

As for the rest of your bizarre and irrelevant comment, If a bunch of females want to parade around thinking that somehow "empowers" them with any merit, then good luck with that. I don't know any real man who is "threatened" by a "woman's sexuality" as you claim. So you should come down of your little artificial pedestal and realise the very attitude you display has completely devalued what you think is worth anything.

Personally I have never seen a "woman's sexuality" fix my car, unblock my drain or build an electrical circuit, so why would any man be threatened by something that has less ability or use then a boys, "my first toolkit"?

Thanks for the laugh.
[quote][p][bold]hetstar[/bold] wrote: Oh lordy, let's just let David_divenghy2 have the last word so he can go away and find something else to get on his high horse about. LysiaMunday keep up the good work. Out here in Oz we have all sorts of Personality Quests, Miss Showgirl contests, Summer Surfgirl contests - all of which focus on community work and charity fundraising. Yes there are age limits set, and yes they are for girls only. The men and boys don’t whinge about it - they get behind the girls and support them. On the other hand we also have Miss Bikini Babe, Miss V8 Supercars - heck I’ve even seen a local bar run a Miss MILF contest! (And the guys certainly don’t whinge about those). I’m a chick and I am “excluded” from any of these contests either because of my age or my lack of “assets”, or both. But I’m not offended and nor do I need anyone to be offended on my behalf. Why is it so wrong to admire a particularly beautiful example of Mother Nature’s handiwork? Even better if the girl in question has a cracking personality and is putting it to good use in her community. Throughout history, men’s fear and distrust of female beauty and sexuality has seen them dream up all manner of ways to suppress and control it - whether it’s doing away with beauty pageants or covering us up with veils. Sadly some guys will never learn to deal with the effect that the sight of boobs and bums has on them and will forever blame us - even hate us - for it.[/p][/quote]What a shame you didn't actually bother reading the thread before commenting, the only objection was that a contest was claiming to find a community representative or town ambassador, then banning half of that community from the opportunity to compete to represent it, which is a perfectly reasonable and logical objection. Nobody what so ever has objected to some beauty contest for females if it makes no such claims.. As for the rest of your bizarre and irrelevant comment, If a bunch of females want to parade around thinking that somehow "empowers" them with any merit, then good luck with that. I don't know any real man who is "threatened" by a "woman's sexuality" as you claim. So you should come down of your little artificial pedestal and realise the very attitude you display has completely devalued what you think is worth anything. Personally I have never seen a "woman's sexuality" fix my car, unblock my drain or build an electrical circuit, so why would any man be threatened by something that has less ability or use then a boys, "my first toolkit"? Thanks for the laugh. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 3

11:52am Sun 19 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
hetstar wrote:
Oh lordy, let's just let David_divenghy2 have the last word so he can go away and find something else to get on his high horse about. LysiaMunday keep up the good work. Out here in Oz we have all sorts of Personality Quests, Miss Showgirl contests, Summer Surfgirl contests - all of which focus on community work and charity fundraising. Yes there are age limits set, and yes they are for girls only. The men and boys don’t whinge about it - they get behind the girls and support them. On the other hand we also have Miss Bikini Babe, Miss V8 Supercars - heck I’ve even seen a local bar run a Miss MILF contest! (And the guys certainly don’t whinge about those). I’m a chick and I am “excluded” from any of these contests either because of my age or my lack of “assets”, or both. But I’m not offended and nor do I need anyone to be offended on my behalf. Why is it so wrong to admire a particularly beautiful example of Mother Nature’s handiwork? Even better if the girl in question has a cracking personality and is putting it to good use in her community. Throughout history, men’s fear and distrust of female beauty and sexuality has seen them dream up all manner of ways to suppress and control it - whether it’s doing away with beauty pageants or covering us up with veils. Sadly some guys will never learn to deal with the effect that the sight of boobs and bums has on them and will forever blame us - even hate us - for it.
What a shame you didn't actually bother reading the thread before commenting, the only objection was that a contest was claiming to find a community representative or town ambassador, then banning half of that community from the opportunity to compete to represent it, which is a perfectly reasonable and logical objection. Nobody what so ever has objected to some beauty contest for females if it makes no such claims..

As for the rest of your bizarre and irrelevant comment, If a bunch of females want to parade around thinking that somehow "empowers" them with any merit, then good luck with that. I don't know any real man who is "threatened" by a "woman's sexuality" as you claim. So you should come down of your little artificial pedestal and realise the very attitude you display has completely devalued what you think is worth anything.

Personally I have never seen a "woman's sexuality" fix my car, unblock my drain or build an electrical circuit, so why would any man be threatened by something that has less ability or use then a boys, "my first toolkit"?

Thanks for the laugh.
Hetstar, you will have to join me and 90% of the posters on here that think that DD as lost the plot(the other 10% are DD by a different name). You cannot debate with someone who has extremist views on females and just keeps churning links to other extremist web sites. If DD had to pay for YouTube the company would be in the ftse 100!
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hetstar[/bold] wrote: Oh lordy, let's just let David_divenghy2 have the last word so he can go away and find something else to get on his high horse about. LysiaMunday keep up the good work. Out here in Oz we have all sorts of Personality Quests, Miss Showgirl contests, Summer Surfgirl contests - all of which focus on community work and charity fundraising. Yes there are age limits set, and yes they are for girls only. The men and boys don’t whinge about it - they get behind the girls and support them. On the other hand we also have Miss Bikini Babe, Miss V8 Supercars - heck I’ve even seen a local bar run a Miss MILF contest! (And the guys certainly don’t whinge about those). I’m a chick and I am “excluded” from any of these contests either because of my age or my lack of “assets”, or both. But I’m not offended and nor do I need anyone to be offended on my behalf. Why is it so wrong to admire a particularly beautiful example of Mother Nature’s handiwork? Even better if the girl in question has a cracking personality and is putting it to good use in her community. Throughout history, men’s fear and distrust of female beauty and sexuality has seen them dream up all manner of ways to suppress and control it - whether it’s doing away with beauty pageants or covering us up with veils. Sadly some guys will never learn to deal with the effect that the sight of boobs and bums has on them and will forever blame us - even hate us - for it.[/p][/quote]What a shame you didn't actually bother reading the thread before commenting, the only objection was that a contest was claiming to find a community representative or town ambassador, then banning half of that community from the opportunity to compete to represent it, which is a perfectly reasonable and logical objection. Nobody what so ever has objected to some beauty contest for females if it makes no such claims.. As for the rest of your bizarre and irrelevant comment, If a bunch of females want to parade around thinking that somehow "empowers" them with any merit, then good luck with that. I don't know any real man who is "threatened" by a "woman's sexuality" as you claim. So you should come down of your little artificial pedestal and realise the very attitude you display has completely devalued what you think is worth anything. Personally I have never seen a "woman's sexuality" fix my car, unblock my drain or build an electrical circuit, so why would any man be threatened by something that has less ability or use then a boys, "my first toolkit"? Thanks for the laugh.[/p][/quote]Hetstar, you will have to join me and 90% of the posters on here that think that DD as lost the plot(the other 10% are DD by a different name). You cannot debate with someone who has extremist views on females and just keeps churning links to other extremist web sites. If DD had to pay for YouTube the company would be in the ftse 100! woodsedge
  • Score: -2

12:16pm Sun 19 Jan 14

hetstar says...

And the inaugural award for Angry Little Man goes to... :-)
And the inaugural award for Angry Little Man goes to... :-) hetstar
  • Score: -3

12:30pm Sun 19 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

woodsedge wrote:
David_divenghy2 wrote:
hetstar wrote:
Oh lordy, let's just let David_divenghy2 have the last word so he can go away and find something else to get on his high horse about. LysiaMunday keep up the good work. Out here in Oz we have all sorts of Personality Quests, Miss Showgirl contests, Summer Surfgirl contests - all of which focus on community work and charity fundraising. Yes there are age limits set, and yes they are for girls only. The men and boys don’t whinge about it - they get behind the girls and support them. On the other hand we also have Miss Bikini Babe, Miss V8 Supercars - heck I’ve even seen a local bar run a Miss MILF contest! (And the guys certainly don’t whinge about those). I’m a chick and I am “excluded” from any of these contests either because of my age or my lack of “assets”, or both. But I’m not offended and nor do I need anyone to be offended on my behalf. Why is it so wrong to admire a particularly beautiful example of Mother Nature’s handiwork? Even better if the girl in question has a cracking personality and is putting it to good use in her community. Throughout history, men’s fear and distrust of female beauty and sexuality has seen them dream up all manner of ways to suppress and control it - whether it’s doing away with beauty pageants or covering us up with veils. Sadly some guys will never learn to deal with the effect that the sight of boobs and bums has on them and will forever blame us - even hate us - for it.
What a shame you didn't actually bother reading the thread before commenting, the only objection was that a contest was claiming to find a community representative or town ambassador, then banning half of that community from the opportunity to compete to represent it, which is a perfectly reasonable and logical objection. Nobody what so ever has objected to some beauty contest for females if it makes no such claims..

As for the rest of your bizarre and irrelevant comment, If a bunch of females want to parade around thinking that somehow "empowers" them with any merit, then good luck with that. I don't know any real man who is "threatened" by a "woman's sexuality" as you claim. So you should come down of your little artificial pedestal and realise the very attitude you display has completely devalued what you think is worth anything.

Personally I have never seen a "woman's sexuality" fix my car, unblock my drain or build an electrical circuit, so why would any man be threatened by something that has less ability or use then a boys, "my first toolkit"?

Thanks for the laugh.
Hetstar, you will have to join me and 90% of the posters on here that think that DD as lost the plot(the other 10% are DD by a different name). You cannot debate with someone who has extremist views on females and just keeps churning links to other extremist web sites. If DD had to pay for YouTube the company would be in the ftse 100!
Woodsedge, showing us the inability of the feminist mind to discuss or debate a single fact. Instead consistently be reduced to name calling and silly baseless allegations. There's no substitute for merit.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hetstar[/bold] wrote: Oh lordy, let's just let David_divenghy2 have the last word so he can go away and find something else to get on his high horse about. LysiaMunday keep up the good work. Out here in Oz we have all sorts of Personality Quests, Miss Showgirl contests, Summer Surfgirl contests - all of which focus on community work and charity fundraising. Yes there are age limits set, and yes they are for girls only. The men and boys don’t whinge about it - they get behind the girls and support them. On the other hand we also have Miss Bikini Babe, Miss V8 Supercars - heck I’ve even seen a local bar run a Miss MILF contest! (And the guys certainly don’t whinge about those). I’m a chick and I am “excluded” from any of these contests either because of my age or my lack of “assets”, or both. But I’m not offended and nor do I need anyone to be offended on my behalf. Why is it so wrong to admire a particularly beautiful example of Mother Nature’s handiwork? Even better if the girl in question has a cracking personality and is putting it to good use in her community. Throughout history, men’s fear and distrust of female beauty and sexuality has seen them dream up all manner of ways to suppress and control it - whether it’s doing away with beauty pageants or covering us up with veils. Sadly some guys will never learn to deal with the effect that the sight of boobs and bums has on them and will forever blame us - even hate us - for it.[/p][/quote]What a shame you didn't actually bother reading the thread before commenting, the only objection was that a contest was claiming to find a community representative or town ambassador, then banning half of that community from the opportunity to compete to represent it, which is a perfectly reasonable and logical objection. Nobody what so ever has objected to some beauty contest for females if it makes no such claims.. As for the rest of your bizarre and irrelevant comment, If a bunch of females want to parade around thinking that somehow "empowers" them with any merit, then good luck with that. I don't know any real man who is "threatened" by a "woman's sexuality" as you claim. So you should come down of your little artificial pedestal and realise the very attitude you display has completely devalued what you think is worth anything. Personally I have never seen a "woman's sexuality" fix my car, unblock my drain or build an electrical circuit, so why would any man be threatened by something that has less ability or use then a boys, "my first toolkit"? Thanks for the laugh.[/p][/quote]Hetstar, you will have to join me and 90% of the posters on here that think that DD as lost the plot(the other 10% are DD by a different name). You cannot debate with someone who has extremist views on females and just keeps churning links to other extremist web sites. If DD had to pay for YouTube the company would be in the ftse 100![/p][/quote]Woodsedge, showing us the inability of the feminist mind to discuss or debate a single fact. Instead consistently be reduced to name calling and silly baseless allegations. There's no substitute for merit. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 4

12:37pm Sun 19 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

Woodsedge and his lefty feminist kind hate men who treat women as if they are not infants and as beings who have their own moral agency or personal responsibility. Their kind like women to be infantilised and perpetuate their sense of victimhood, their easier to manipulate that way.

Me, I treat them as an equal, in every regard...to them, that is extremist ;-) Perhaps some of you girls should follow those links I post and find out why their kind of so afraid of them ?
Woodsedge and his lefty feminist kind hate men who treat women as if they are not infants and as beings who have their own moral agency or personal responsibility. Their kind like women to be infantilised and perpetuate their sense of victimhood, their easier to manipulate that way. Me, I treat them as an equal, in every regard...to them, that is extremist ;-) Perhaps some of you girls should follow those links I post and find out why their kind of so afraid of them ? David_divenghy2
  • Score: 7

10:58am Tue 21 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

http://www.youtube.c
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This somehow seems so appropriate for this article:-) I'll leave the wannabe princesses with this message.
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?feature=pla yer_embedded&v=YAeST sDc4qE This somehow seems so appropriate for this article:-) I'll leave the wannabe princesses with this message. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 2

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