UPDATE: Portland council tax precept branded 'utterly unreasonable' by government minister

UPDATE: Portland council tax precept branded 'utterly unreasonable' by government minister

RISE IS UNREASONABLE: Richard Drax

Portland Town Councillor Tim Munro

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Dorset Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

Portland Town Council has been slated as being ‘utterly unreasonable’ by a government minister over plans to hike the island’s council tax precept.

And the council’s actions could force the government to cap town council taxes.

At a public meeting, town councillors defended the decision to hike the council tax precept by 1,000 per cent by saying the increase was needed to provide services before a cap was introduced.

But South Dorset MP Richard Drax said the situation had been misunderstood but a cap may be put in place only if town and parish councils make such large increases.

Town councillor Tim Munro told over 600 people who packed into All Saints Church in Easton on Monday night that an email forwarded to him by Mr Drax from Local Government Minister Brandon Lewis confirmed there would be a cap.

Mr Lewis said: “Every bit of local government needs to do its bit to keep down council tax and help hard-working people with the cost of living.

“Parish councils have never received central government funding and are self-financing, but such a large increase seems to me to be utterly unreasonable.

“Incidents like these make the case for council tax referendum protections to be extended to parish councils, and such an extension of direct democracy is something we are considering.”

But Mr Drax said: “Regrettably I understand the minister was misquoted at the meeting.

“To be absolutely clear, as soon as I was made aware of my constituents’ concerns I contacted the Department for Local Government and received a response from Mr Lewis which I forwarded to the councillors involved before the meeting.

“On that email I supported the minister’s view that the rise was utterly unreasonable.”

Mr Drax, who was unable to attend the meeting, added: “Reading the minister’s response, I would consider that there is an implicit warning for irresponsible town and parish councils in future.

“However, the Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has not suggested that town and parish precepts will be capped.

“As most of us know, town and parish councils operate autonomously. The Communities Secretary was referring to capping the county, district, borough and Unitary Councils, which fall under his remit.

“Certainly, to use the possibility of a future referendum on increasing council tax precepts as an excuse for such a drastic rise in a town precept now seems to me entirely unreasonable.”

Mr Drax also praised the Portland residents for their ‘dignity and decorum’ at Monday’s meeting.

Responding to Mr Drax’s comments, Coun Munro denied he had misled the public.

He said: “The email says that a cap is something they are considering and for Mr Drax to deny that is unreasonable.”

He added: “We were trying to protect island services for the future. If we hadn’t put forward the increase, a town or parish council in another part of the country could have done so, forcing the cap and we would be the victim of someone else’s actions.”

When asked by the Echo if other town councils could now be the victims of Portland Town Council’s actions if the cap is put in place, Coun Munro said: “Each council must make its own judgment.”

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1:38pm Tue 28 Jan 14

smilealoft44 says...

The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter)
How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist?
I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND.
As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there. smilealoft44
  • Score: -45

2:14pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Genghis says...

Why no comment from Mr Drax on this subject until now? If a 1000% hike is unacceptable now then surely it was unacceptable when it was first announced? That would have been the smart time to have made the statement. I may be cynical but it now looks as though he's been waiting to see how strong the feeling against this precept is before deciding which bandwagon to jump on.
Why no comment from Mr Drax on this subject until now? If a 1000% hike is unacceptable now then surely it was unacceptable when it was first announced? That would have been the smart time to have made the statement. I may be cynical but it now looks as though he's been waiting to see how strong the feeling against this precept is before deciding which bandwagon to jump on. Genghis
  • Score: 13

2:17pm Tue 28 Jan 14

railwaychickenboy6 says...

I sea he was being diplomatic by not mentioning the disgusting behaviour of the reprecentative of the people of Portland
I sea he was being diplomatic by not mentioning the disgusting behaviour of the reprecentative of the people of Portland railwaychickenboy6
  • Score: -11

2:46pm Tue 28 Jan 14

captainsea says...

Oh Dear!! Mr Munro seems to have got in a right pickle, perhaps big Eric should come down and sort him out. Seriously though, Munro has lied yet again to the people of Portland. This combined with the other scaremongering surely means his place on PTC is untenable and a vote of no confidence is a must at the next meeting on the 5th Feb wherever they intend to hold it.
Oh Dear!! Mr Munro seems to have got in a right pickle, perhaps big Eric should come down and sort him out. Seriously though, Munro has lied yet again to the people of Portland. This combined with the other scaremongering surely means his place on PTC is untenable and a vote of no confidence is a must at the next meeting on the 5th Feb wherever they intend to hold it. captainsea
  • Score: 35

3:28pm Tue 28 Jan 14

yellowhunter13 says...

That bunch of absolute **** clowns need to all go whether any of em are decent or not !! Not to even know the correct information before even making an attempt to come up with a silly precept rise plan is total and utter nonsense. The fable email Munro couldnt even of got as Eric pickles according to Richard is not even capping parish or town councils!! How can they stay in council for heaven sake ?? I thought i was to thick to be a bloody councillor but now i think some of the kids at an infant school could do it.
What about a community council led my normal everyday people that are not rocket scientists but every day family folk regardless of wealth or power i just want to live in a wonderful place and get what i and everyone pays for. Using some members from the community groups perhaps i really dont know but this is ridiculous we are even thinking about letting them have till the 5th of February!! Why oh Why i wanna know cause this is total
**** !! I wonder whether or not im actually living in a dream cause surely this cant be real. Munro probably knew the truth but thought he would chance his arm we ll that arm i could surely break off and shove it down that red faced dwarfs throat !! But saying that the rest of them are at equal fault and there is no real argument is there as we know they are bunglers,liars and outright fools.
That bunch of absolute **** clowns need to all go whether any of em are decent or not !! Not to even know the correct information before even making an attempt to come up with a silly precept rise plan is total and utter nonsense. The fable email Munro couldnt even of got as Eric pickles according to Richard is not even capping parish or town councils!! How can they stay in council for heaven sake ?? I thought i was to thick to be a bloody councillor but now i think some of the kids at an infant school could do it. What about a community council led my normal everyday people that are not rocket scientists but every day family folk regardless of wealth or power i just want to live in a wonderful place and get what i and everyone pays for. Using some members from the community groups perhaps i really dont know but this is ridiculous we are even thinking about letting them have till the 5th of February!! Why oh Why i wanna know cause this is total **** !! I wonder whether or not im actually living in a dream cause surely this cant be real. Munro probably knew the truth but thought he would chance his arm we ll that arm i could surely break off and shove it down that red faced dwarfs throat !! But saying that the rest of them are at equal fault and there is no real argument is there as we know they are bunglers,liars and outright fools. yellowhunter13
  • Score: 13

3:44pm Tue 28 Jan 14

smilealoft44 says...

smilealoft44 wrote:
The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter)
How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist?
I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND.
As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
[quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote? smilealoft44
  • Score: -11

6:14pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Gordon Bennett says...

What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you.
What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you. Gordon Bennett
  • Score: 19

6:23pm Tue 28 Jan 14

yellowhunter13 says...

smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter)
How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist?
I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND.
As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Dont know why you got the negative vote i understand where your coming from. The different matter you were on about now there are certain companies on this island that have been churning up the roads and verges etc for some time now and looks pretty crappy all over not sure if they pay anything or clean up after themselves i think not? There is some houses being built locally to me and all the workers park on the verges and now they are slop or you have to walk on the road but yes another matter frankly.
Never mind maybe some day....
[quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Dont know why you got the negative vote i understand where your coming from. The different matter you were on about now there are certain companies on this island that have been churning up the roads and verges etc for some time now and looks pretty crappy all over not sure if they pay anything or clean up after themselves i think not? There is some houses being built locally to me and all the workers park on the verges and now they are slop or you have to walk on the road but yes another matter frankly. Never mind maybe some day.... yellowhunter13
  • Score: -1

6:25pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Seb Baker says...

So, Drax, Pickles and Lewis are Tories... Tim Munro is / was a Tory... Amanda Munro and Ian Munro-Price are Tories... what are they going to do about it? Will South Dorset Tories have the courage to take action against their own?
So, Drax, Pickles and Lewis are Tories... Tim Munro is / was a Tory... Amanda Munro and Ian Munro-Price are Tories... what are they going to do about it? Will South Dorset Tories have the courage to take action against their own? Seb Baker
  • Score: 6

6:28pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Crabber says...

THERE YOU GO FOLKS! ! ! ! ! ! The exact transcript the Richard Drax MP wanted sent to every Cllr yesterday. Now I ask you is Timmy Boy telling Porkies? Yay or Nay? You decided

This is the Government's response to PTC’s problem, which I sent to the Town Hall yesterday afternoon.
I asked the clerk to distribute it to each of the 14 cllrs.
I also expressed my own view on the proposed precept rise for the first time, saying that I, too, found the proposal “utterly unreasonable”.
As you can read, Mr Lewis does NOT say that town and parish councils will be capped, but that PTC’s proposed hike could make it likely.
Warm regards,
Richard

Brandon Lewis:
"Every bit of local government needs to do its bit to keep down council tax and help hard-working people with the cost of living. Parish councils have never received central government funding and are self-financing, but such a large increase seems to me to be utterly unreasonable. Incidents like these make the case for council tax referendum protections to be extended to parish councils, and such an extension of direct democracy is something we are considering"



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THERE YOU GO FOLKS! ! ! ! ! ! The exact transcript the Richard Drax MP wanted sent to every Cllr yesterday. Now I ask you is Timmy Boy telling Porkies? Yay or Nay? You decided This is the Government's response to PTC’s problem, which I sent to the Town Hall yesterday afternoon. I asked the clerk to distribute it to each of the 14 cllrs. I also expressed my own view on the proposed precept rise for the first time, saying that I, too, found the proposal “utterly unreasonable”. As you can read, Mr Lewis does NOT say that town and parish councils will be capped, but that PTC’s proposed hike could make it likely. Warm regards, Richard Brandon Lewis: "Every bit of local government needs to do its bit to keep down council tax and help hard-working people with the cost of living. Parish councils have never received central government funding and are self-financing, but such a large increase seems to me to be utterly unreasonable. Incidents like these make the case for council tax referendum protections to be extended to parish councils, and such an extension of direct democracy is something we are considering" ____________________ ____________ UK Parliament Disclaimer: This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. Crabber
  • Score: 10

6:57pm Tue 28 Jan 14

chesilboy says...

smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter)
How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist?
I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND.
As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Um, because you are trying to hijack this opportunity to express your own political views? There are only 3 sentences in the middle of your post relevant to the topic under discussion and the rest is off-topic ranting...
[quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Um, because you are trying to hijack this opportunity to express your own political views? There are only 3 sentences in the middle of your post relevant to the topic under discussion and the rest is off-topic ranting... chesilboy
  • Score: 15

9:42pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Kimberlin1 says...

Reference the email sent to Tim Munro, the email from Brandon Lewis was sent to Tim Munro and was also sent was sent to PTC to the Town Clerk to print and to be given to Cllrs and to be read out at the meeting. This email was not printed off as the Town Clerk didn't do it, Cllr Munro said he had received from Eric Pickles it was an utter lie, because the proper email was not printed and given out as per instructions he thought he could get away with it. Sorry Tim you have been caught out. I also know that Richard Drax phoned Tim Munro several times this morning and had no reply, he was given till lunchtime to respond or Richard Drax would Issue his statement. What worries me is how could the Town Clerk not print the email and bring it to the meeting as it was an important document for the meeting.
Reference the email sent to Tim Munro, the email from Brandon Lewis was sent to Tim Munro and was also sent was sent to PTC to the Town Clerk to print and to be given to Cllrs and to be read out at the meeting. This email was not printed off as the Town Clerk didn't do it, Cllr Munro said he had received from Eric Pickles it was an utter lie, because the proper email was not printed and given out as per instructions he thought he could get away with it. Sorry Tim you have been caught out. I also know that Richard Drax phoned Tim Munro several times this morning and had no reply, he was given till lunchtime to respond or Richard Drax would Issue his statement. What worries me is how could the Town Clerk not print the email and bring it to the meeting as it was an important document for the meeting. Kimberlin1
  • Score: 6

7:35am Wed 29 Jan 14

Foursite says...

Kimberlin1 wrote:
Reference the email sent to Tim Munro, the email from Brandon Lewis was sent to Tim Munro and was also sent was sent to PTC to the Town Clerk to print and to be given to Cllrs and to be read out at the meeting. This email was not printed off as the Town Clerk didn't do it, Cllr Munro said he had received from Eric Pickles it was an utter lie, because the proper email was not printed and given out as per instructions he thought he could get away with it. Sorry Tim you have been caught out. I also know that Richard Drax phoned Tim Munro several times this morning and had no reply, he was given till lunchtime to respond or Richard Drax would Issue his statement. What worries me is how could the Town Clerk not print the email and bring it to the meeting as it was an important document for the meeting.
Each household has been paying up to £14 a year for an unqualified town clerk who knows not how to change an ink cartridge !
[quote][p][bold]Kimberlin1[/bold] wrote: Reference the email sent to Tim Munro, the email from Brandon Lewis was sent to Tim Munro and was also sent was sent to PTC to the Town Clerk to print and to be given to Cllrs and to be read out at the meeting. This email was not printed off as the Town Clerk didn't do it, Cllr Munro said he had received from Eric Pickles it was an utter lie, because the proper email was not printed and given out as per instructions he thought he could get away with it. Sorry Tim you have been caught out. I also know that Richard Drax phoned Tim Munro several times this morning and had no reply, he was given till lunchtime to respond or Richard Drax would Issue his statement. What worries me is how could the Town Clerk not print the email and bring it to the meeting as it was an important document for the meeting.[/p][/quote]Each household has been paying up to £14 a year for an unqualified town clerk who knows not how to change an ink cartridge ! Foursite
  • Score: 3

7:40am Wed 29 Jan 14

portland maid says...

I think that the lack of 'official qualifications' the Town Clerk has would be something to do with not being able to operate the photocopier.....
I am really concerned that at the meeting we were informed the council didnt have a financial advisor, then later on as the furore grew -
oh yes we do ( punch and Judyesque ) our Town Clerk is the financial advisor... What?!!! Oh but he hasnt got the official quals, as we dont have the money for that -
Which begs the question, why dont we have an official financial advisor, did the Town Clerk in his 'capacity' as the financial advisor have any input at all as to the ridiculous percentage - ?
I think that the lack of 'official qualifications' the Town Clerk has would be something to do with not being able to operate the photocopier..... I am really concerned that at the meeting we were informed the council didnt have a financial advisor, then later on as the furore grew - oh yes we do ( punch and Judyesque ) our Town Clerk is the financial advisor... What?!!! Oh but he hasnt got the official quals, as we dont have the money for that - Which begs the question, why dont we have an official financial advisor, did the Town Clerk in his 'capacity' as the financial advisor have any input at all as to the ridiculous percentage - ? portland maid
  • Score: 0

8:21am Wed 29 Jan 14

JamesYoung says...

smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
[quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with. JamesYoung
  • Score: 1

8:57am Wed 29 Jan 14

smilealoft44 says...

JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I didnot say i suppoorted the previous goverment , i mearly said that we would not have this problem if this goverment was not cutting so much. I belive there are other ways of acheiving an end to cuts but it would take a change of policy and dirrection.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I didnot say i suppoorted the previous goverment , i mearly said that we would not have this problem if this goverment was not cutting so much. I belive there are other ways of acheiving an end to cuts but it would take a change of policy and dirrection. smilealoft44
  • Score: -9

9:47am Wed 29 Jan 14

Portland G says...

Gordon Bennett wrote:
What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you.
Unfortunatelyit is WE the voters of the Isle that elected those who claim to represent the people of Portland. I wonder how many of the commentators on this subject who are complaining about the current batch of incompetant councillors actually turned out and voted last May. How many will turn out this year. I would hazard a guess at not many. I didn't vote for the person who represents my ward but still she got in. Before you complain too much MAKE SURE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE. It could and probably would make a difference. Some of those on the town council have been in the job for years and keep getting re-elected. There is always some major blunder that they make but still they get re-elected. Some of those elected couldn't run a business properly so why do they think they could run a council.
People of Portland, you have the oppurtunity to change the council (or at least some of it) in May so stop complaining and get up and vote. If you don't use it you have no room to complain
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Bennett[/bold] wrote: What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you.[/p][/quote]Unfortunatelyit is WE the voters of the Isle that elected those who claim to represent the people of Portland. I wonder how many of the commentators on this subject who are complaining about the current batch of incompetant councillors actually turned out and voted last May. How many will turn out this year. I would hazard a guess at not many. I didn't vote for the person who represents my ward but still she got in. Before you complain too much MAKE SURE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE. It could and probably would make a difference. Some of those on the town council have been in the job for years and keep getting re-elected. There is always some major blunder that they make but still they get re-elected. Some of those elected couldn't run a business properly so why do they think they could run a council. People of Portland, you have the oppurtunity to change the council (or at least some of it) in May so stop complaining and get up and vote. If you don't use it you have no room to complain Portland G
  • Score: 6

10:17am Wed 29 Jan 14

17th Earl of Fortuneswell says...

Portland G wrote:
Gordon Bennett wrote: What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you.
Unfortunatelyit is WE the voters of the Isle that elected those who claim to represent the people of Portland. I wonder how many of the commentators on this subject who are complaining about the current batch of incompetant councillors actually turned out and voted last May. How many will turn out this year. I would hazard a guess at not many. I didn't vote for the person who represents my ward but still she got in. Before you complain too much MAKE SURE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE. It could and probably would make a difference. Some of those on the town council have been in the job for years and keep getting re-elected. There is always some major blunder that they make but still they get re-elected. Some of those elected couldn't run a business properly so why do they think they could run a council. People of Portland, you have the oppurtunity to change the council (or at least some of it) in May so stop complaining and get up and vote. If you don't use it you have no room to complain
I cant remember 100% but I think I am right in saying that we have to vote for more than one candidate. In fact I am sure last time I voted we had to select four candidates out of 5 (or maybe 7 - as I say I don't recall completely) potential Cllrs. With a system as skewed as that is it any wonder the same old faces keep on re-appearing. Denton-White lost out in the election but was co-opted anyway ! If anyone was to stand next time on an "Anyone But Monro" ticket they would probably get in but are there enough willing participants ?
[quote][p][bold]Portland G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gordon Bennett[/bold] wrote: What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you.[/p][/quote]Unfortunatelyit is WE the voters of the Isle that elected those who claim to represent the people of Portland. I wonder how many of the commentators on this subject who are complaining about the current batch of incompetant councillors actually turned out and voted last May. How many will turn out this year. I would hazard a guess at not many. I didn't vote for the person who represents my ward but still she got in. Before you complain too much MAKE SURE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE. It could and probably would make a difference. Some of those on the town council have been in the job for years and keep getting re-elected. There is always some major blunder that they make but still they get re-elected. Some of those elected couldn't run a business properly so why do they think they could run a council. People of Portland, you have the oppurtunity to change the council (or at least some of it) in May so stop complaining and get up and vote. If you don't use it you have no room to complain[/p][/quote]I cant remember 100% but I think I am right in saying that we have to vote for more than one candidate. In fact I am sure last time I voted we had to select four candidates out of 5 (or maybe 7 - as I say I don't recall completely) potential Cllrs. With a system as skewed as that is it any wonder the same old faces keep on re-appearing. Denton-White lost out in the election but was co-opted anyway ! If anyone was to stand next time on an "Anyone But Monro" ticket they would probably get in but are there enough willing participants ? 17th Earl of Fortuneswell
  • Score: 2

10:37am Wed 29 Jan 14

Gordon Bennett says...

PortlandG - Ten years ago I opted for a postal vote to ensure that I vote on every local election. What the candidates state in their leaflets shoved through the letter box (I have met few candidates at the doorstep in person) and what you get in reality can be quite different. I did manage to persuade some of my neighbours, who do not normally vote, to turn out for the last borough council election to vote against a particular candidate - I try to do my bit !
PortlandG - Ten years ago I opted for a postal vote to ensure that I vote on every local election. What the candidates state in their leaflets shoved through the letter box (I have met few candidates at the doorstep in person) and what you get in reality can be quite different. I did manage to persuade some of my neighbours, who do not normally vote, to turn out for the last borough council election to vote against a particular candidate - I try to do my bit ! Gordon Bennett
  • Score: -1

10:45am Wed 29 Jan 14

Crabber says...

Mumbo you lie like a Hairy Egg mate YOU DID say what has been reported in front of 600+ Portland People !!! What's more you were asked to confirm your statement by a member of the audience and you did so, back up by Mr Rodney Wild who replied "Yes we did.". So there you go, twist out of this.
Still one service Portland can take back is The Gravedigger cause you old son are doing a great job interviewing for the position.
Mumbo you lie like a Hairy Egg mate YOU DID say what has been reported in front of 600+ Portland People !!! What's more you were asked to confirm your statement by a member of the audience and you did so, back up by Mr Rodney Wild who replied "Yes we did.". So there you go, twist out of this. Still one service Portland can take back is The Gravedigger cause you old son are doing a great job interviewing for the position. Crabber
  • Score: 8

11:04am Wed 29 Jan 14

shy talk says...

On last nights BBC Spotlight the Mayor of Portland Clr Les Ames said he would resign if the precept were upheld. So the Deputy Mayor will take over which is Clr Munro. Sorry people forgot to say which Munro on the Council. Yes it is Clr Tim Munro.
On last nights BBC Spotlight the Mayor of Portland Clr Les Ames said he would resign if the precept were upheld. So the Deputy Mayor will take over which is Clr Munro. Sorry people forgot to say which Munro on the Council. Yes it is Clr Tim Munro. shy talk
  • Score: 4

11:34am Wed 29 Jan 14

RifRafDac says...

It is completely reasonable! Stop moaning and get on with it!
It is completely reasonable! Stop moaning and get on with it! RifRafDac
  • Score: -3

11:35am Wed 29 Jan 14

Portland G says...

He added: “We were trying to protect island services for the future. If we hadn’t put forward the increase, a town or parish council in another part of the country could have done so, forcing the cap and we would be the victim of someone else’s actions.”

So Mr Munro, what you are saying is that it is wrong for you to be the victim of someone elses actions but it is perfectly ok for someone else to be the victim of YOUR actions. I think you really need to RESIGN at the earliest opportunity, you and your cohorts are bringing this Isle into disrepute and will make it the laughing stock of the country. What a good advert to bring in new business and new life to the Isle
He added: “We were trying to protect island services for the future. If we hadn’t put forward the increase, a town or parish council in another part of the country could have done so, forcing the cap and we would be the victim of someone else’s actions.” So Mr Munro, what you are saying is that it is wrong for you to be the victim of someone elses actions but it is perfectly ok for someone else to be the victim of YOUR actions. I think you really need to RESIGN at the earliest opportunity, you and your cohorts are bringing this Isle into disrepute and will make it the laughing stock of the country. What a good advert to bring in new business and new life to the Isle Portland G
  • Score: 8

11:38am Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

Portland G wrote:
Gordon Bennett wrote:
What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you.
Unfortunatelyit is WE the voters of the Isle that elected those who claim to represent the people of Portland. I wonder how many of the commentators on this subject who are complaining about the current batch of incompetant councillors actually turned out and voted last May. How many will turn out this year. I would hazard a guess at not many. I didn't vote for the person who represents my ward but still she got in. Before you complain too much MAKE SURE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE. It could and probably would make a difference. Some of those on the town council have been in the job for years and keep getting re-elected. There is always some major blunder that they make but still they get re-elected. Some of those elected couldn't run a business properly so why do they think they could run a council.
People of Portland, you have the oppurtunity to change the council (or at least some of it) in May so stop complaining and get up and vote. If you don't use it you have no room to complain
I see your point but I think you are being a little hard on the electorate here. I don't believe turnout at the elections is the real issue; it’s more a case of lack of choice.

If you take the last Underhill election in 2011 for example, where the turnout was 32.6% (874 ballot papers issued - Electorate 2681), there were only five candidates contesting four seats.

The problem with the electoral system is that it assumes that there will be more than one candidate for each seat but, in this case, there were only five candidates so three out of the four seats were, in effect, uncontested. The only way to vote against a candidate would to vote for one or more of the other candidates but this only works if a) there are enough candidates to fill all of the seats at least twice over and b) there are at least four (in this case) that you would be happy to elect.

As I have said in posts elsewhere, I would prefer a system that incorporates votes against as well as votes for (an approval rating if you like) which, after all, is the basis upon which parliamentary democracy works. As it is, if uncontested, someone can be elected to the council via a casual vacancy with only ten supporters and no ballot at all. I would say that there should always be a yes/no vote requiring a majority of yes votes in order to secure election. Co-opted councillors should also be subject to this process.

The priority then is for more Portlanders to stand for election to give the electorate some real choices and to avoid unpopular councillors being re-elected by default. I bet the turnout would improve then.
[quote][p][bold]Portland G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gordon Bennett[/bold] wrote: What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you.[/p][/quote]Unfortunatelyit is WE the voters of the Isle that elected those who claim to represent the people of Portland. I wonder how many of the commentators on this subject who are complaining about the current batch of incompetant councillors actually turned out and voted last May. How many will turn out this year. I would hazard a guess at not many. I didn't vote for the person who represents my ward but still she got in. Before you complain too much MAKE SURE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE. It could and probably would make a difference. Some of those on the town council have been in the job for years and keep getting re-elected. There is always some major blunder that they make but still they get re-elected. Some of those elected couldn't run a business properly so why do they think they could run a council. People of Portland, you have the oppurtunity to change the council (or at least some of it) in May so stop complaining and get up and vote. If you don't use it you have no room to complain[/p][/quote]I see your point but I think you are being a little hard on the electorate here. I don't believe turnout at the elections is the real issue; it’s more a case of lack of choice. If you take the last Underhill election in 2011 for example, where the turnout was 32.6% (874 ballot papers issued - Electorate 2681), there were only five candidates contesting four seats. The problem with the electoral system is that it assumes that there will be more than one candidate for each seat but, in this case, there were only five candidates so three out of the four seats were, in effect, uncontested. The only way to vote against a candidate would to vote for one or more of the other candidates but this only works if a) there are enough candidates to fill all of the seats at least twice over and b) there are at least four (in this case) that you would be happy to elect. As I have said in posts elsewhere, I would prefer a system that incorporates votes against as well as votes for (an approval rating if you like) which, after all, is the basis upon which parliamentary democracy works. As it is, if uncontested, someone can be elected to the council via a casual vacancy with only ten supporters and no ballot at all. I would say that there should always be a yes/no vote requiring a majority of yes votes in order to secure election. Co-opted councillors should also be subject to this process. The priority then is for more Portlanders to stand for election to give the electorate some real choices and to avoid unpopular councillors being re-elected by default. I bet the turnout would improve then. Bob Goulding
  • Score: 11

11:44am Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

17th Earl of Fortuneswell wrote:
Portland G wrote:
Gordon Bennett wrote: What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you.
Unfortunatelyit is WE the voters of the Isle that elected those who claim to represent the people of Portland. I wonder how many of the commentators on this subject who are complaining about the current batch of incompetant councillors actually turned out and voted last May. How many will turn out this year. I would hazard a guess at not many. I didn't vote for the person who represents my ward but still she got in. Before you complain too much MAKE SURE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE. It could and probably would make a difference. Some of those on the town council have been in the job for years and keep getting re-elected. There is always some major blunder that they make but still they get re-elected. Some of those elected couldn't run a business properly so why do they think they could run a council. People of Portland, you have the oppurtunity to change the council (or at least some of it) in May so stop complaining and get up and vote. If you don't use it you have no room to complain
I cant remember 100% but I think I am right in saying that we have to vote for more than one candidate. In fact I am sure last time I voted we had to select four candidates out of 5 (or maybe 7 - as I say I don't recall completely) potential Cllrs. With a system as skewed as that is it any wonder the same old faces keep on re-appearing. Denton-White lost out in the election but was co-opted anyway ! If anyone was to stand next time on an "Anyone But Monro" ticket they would probably get in but are there enough willing participants ?
Yes, and by co-opting Denton-White, Underhill in effect have five councillors when they should have only four.
[quote][p][bold]17th Earl of Fortuneswell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Portland G[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gordon Bennett[/bold] wrote: What did we the people of Portland ever do to deserve such scum representing us on our council. A bully, a liar, a foul mouthed lout. What great examples you set for the youth of the island. As well as resigning your positions from the council perhaps you might consider moving off of the island - Portland would be a far better place without people like you.[/p][/quote]Unfortunatelyit is WE the voters of the Isle that elected those who claim to represent the people of Portland. I wonder how many of the commentators on this subject who are complaining about the current batch of incompetant councillors actually turned out and voted last May. How many will turn out this year. I would hazard a guess at not many. I didn't vote for the person who represents my ward but still she got in. Before you complain too much MAKE SURE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE. It could and probably would make a difference. Some of those on the town council have been in the job for years and keep getting re-elected. There is always some major blunder that they make but still they get re-elected. Some of those elected couldn't run a business properly so why do they think they could run a council. People of Portland, you have the oppurtunity to change the council (or at least some of it) in May so stop complaining and get up and vote. If you don't use it you have no room to complain[/p][/quote]I cant remember 100% but I think I am right in saying that we have to vote for more than one candidate. In fact I am sure last time I voted we had to select four candidates out of 5 (or maybe 7 - as I say I don't recall completely) potential Cllrs. With a system as skewed as that is it any wonder the same old faces keep on re-appearing. Denton-White lost out in the election but was co-opted anyway ! If anyone was to stand next time on an "Anyone But Monro" ticket they would probably get in but are there enough willing participants ?[/p][/quote]Yes, and by co-opting Denton-White, Underhill in effect have five councillors when they should have only four. Bob Goulding
  • Score: 3

11:45am Wed 29 Jan 14

dark side says...

Mr Munro I was at the meeting you said the reason we introduced this large increase was The government may Cap us, Richard Drax has since confirmed there is going to be a cap( confirmed via E-mail).A member of the public asked you to confirm this, and you replied yes. The Dorset Echo reporter reported this in Tuesday Echo.The case to increase the precept was on a MAY, And this would of been the icing on the cake, An E-mail from Mr Drax confirming that the government are going to cap town councils. My view is this loop hole needs to be closed to stop councils like Portland increasing There precept to an unacceptable amount.
Mr Munro I was at the meeting you said the reason we introduced this large increase was The government may Cap us, Richard Drax has since confirmed there is going to be a cap( confirmed via E-mail).A member of the public asked you to confirm this, and you replied yes. The Dorset Echo reporter reported this in Tuesday Echo.The case to increase the precept was on a MAY, And this would of been the icing on the cake, An E-mail from Mr Drax confirming that the government are going to cap town councils. My view is this loop hole needs to be closed to stop councils like Portland increasing There precept to an unacceptable amount. dark side
  • Score: 0

12:25pm Wed 29 Jan 14

common cence says...

I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,
I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,, common cence
  • Score: -1

12:46pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

common cence wrote:
I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,
Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant. Bob Goulding
  • Score: 2

12:52pm Wed 29 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
A lot of Tory voters on these threads.

My "Don't vote blue" never goes down well ;)
[quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]A lot of Tory voters on these threads. My "Don't vote blue" never goes down well ;) elloello1980
  • Score: -2

12:53pm Wed 29 Jan 14

westbaywonder says...

Love it.........DRAX ON TAX. LOL!!
Love it.........DRAX ON TAX. LOL!! westbaywonder
  • Score: 1

12:54pm Wed 29 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;) elloello1980
  • Score: 0

1:07pm Wed 29 Jan 14

smilealoft44 says...

common cence wrote:
I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,
Are you a UKIP member if not join now. We are planning the way forward now.
[quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Are you a UKIP member if not join now. We are planning the way forward now. smilealoft44
  • Score: -11

1:40pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like. Bob Goulding
  • Score: 2

2:57pm Wed 29 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
[quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed. elloello1980
  • Score: 2

3:06pm Wed 29 Jan 14

smilealoft44 says...

RifRafDac wrote:
It is completely reasonable! Stop moaning and get on with it!
Now i know your a wind up merchant. Had me going for a while.
[quote][p][bold]RifRafDac[/bold] wrote: It is completely reasonable! Stop moaning and get on with it![/p][/quote]Now i know your a wind up merchant. Had me going for a while. smilealoft44
  • Score: 0

3:37pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory.

Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. Bob Goulding
  • Score: 0

4:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Foursite says...

Getting back to the point in hand, Coun Tim Munro said the precept hike is now unlikely to go ahead.? when I attended the council meeting on the 15th Jan he told us it could not be changed and basically was set in stone. That is why the bun fight started,within days they started loosing business through Red-House and Jacks Cafe.Not a very thought out policy,and privately one he and his family would rather forget I suggest.They have been damaged by this and am sure the people of Portland will not allow them to forget it,either this week,next month or next year. Well done to Portland People Power.
Getting back to the point in hand, Coun Tim Munro said the precept hike is now unlikely to go ahead.? when I attended the council meeting on the 15th Jan he told us it could not be changed and basically was set in stone. That is why the bun fight started,within days they started loosing business through Red-House and Jacks Cafe.Not a very thought out policy,and privately one he and his family would rather forget I suggest.They have been damaged by this and am sure the people of Portland will not allow them to forget it,either this week,next month or next year. Well done to Portland People Power. Foursite
  • Score: 16

4:33pm Wed 29 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats*

And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party?

Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting)

Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)
[quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.[/p][/quote]But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;) elloello1980
  • Score: -5

4:34pm Wed 29 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

Foursite wrote:
Getting back to the point in hand, Coun Tim Munro said the precept hike is now unlikely to go ahead.? when I attended the council meeting on the 15th Jan he told us it could not be changed and basically was set in stone. That is why the bun fight started,within days they started loosing business through Red-House and Jacks Cafe.Not a very thought out policy,and privately one he and his family would rather forget I suggest.They have been damaged by this and am sure the people of Portland will not allow them to forget it,either this week,next month or next year. Well done to Portland People Power.
Bring back the bakery! :)
[quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: Getting back to the point in hand, Coun Tim Munro said the precept hike is now unlikely to go ahead.? when I attended the council meeting on the 15th Jan he told us it could not be changed and basically was set in stone. That is why the bun fight started,within days they started loosing business through Red-House and Jacks Cafe.Not a very thought out policy,and privately one he and his family would rather forget I suggest.They have been damaged by this and am sure the people of Portland will not allow them to forget it,either this week,next month or next year. Well done to Portland People Power.[/p][/quote]Bring back the bakery! :) elloello1980
  • Score: 3

4:46pm Wed 29 Jan 14

common cence says...

smilealoft44 wrote:
common cence wrote:
I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,
Are you a UKIP member if not join now. We are planning the way forward now.
Yes i am fully paid up,,,,,,,
[quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Are you a UKIP member if not join now. We are planning the way forward now.[/p][/quote]Yes i am fully paid up,,,,,,, common cence
  • Score: 0

4:51pm Wed 29 Jan 14

common cence says...

Bob Goulding wrote:
common cence wrote:
I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,
Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant.
Nothing to do with politics its to do with plain honest speaking , and you get plain honest advice from UKIP ,
[quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with politics its to do with plain honest speaking , and you get plain honest advice from UKIP , common cence
  • Score: -2

4:53pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats*

And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party?

Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting)

Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)
As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.[/p][/quote]But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)[/p][/quote]As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende? Bob Goulding
  • Score: 1

5:02pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

common cence wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
common cence wrote:
I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,
Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant.
Nothing to do with politics its to do with plain honest speaking , and you get plain honest advice from UKIP ,
That may be so but when you get involved at this level it is what you believe in the local context that matters. If you are not free to advocate what is best for the community, simply because it is at odds with party doctrine, then perhaps PTC is not for you.
[quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with politics its to do with plain honest speaking , and you get plain honest advice from UKIP ,[/p][/quote]That may be so but when you get involved at this level it is what you believe in the local context that matters. If you are not free to advocate what is best for the community, simply because it is at odds with party doctrine, then perhaps PTC is not for you. Bob Goulding
  • Score: 4

5:18pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Foursite says...

may I give special thanx to John Thorner a great campaigner who we should be extremely grateful to.Not only a brilliant facebook page but 3000 signatures in one week, unbelievable.and putting up with Denton Whites blasphemous mouth in our church,well controlled John. Good man..
may I give special thanx to John Thorner a great campaigner who we should be extremely grateful to.Not only a brilliant facebook page but 3000 signatures in one week, unbelievable.and putting up with Denton Whites blasphemous mouth in our church,well controlled John. Good man.. Foursite
  • Score: 9

5:20pm Wed 29 Jan 14

bandit_300 says...

Here we go little snipes with one another about party politics and all that whos knobs bigger and all that! Best way forward would be no parties at all and nothing to look back in time and say this and say that it is time for a community council made up of non political persons but i am expecting people to say oh we cant do this and we cant do that and no way would that work. Well what we got now and what we had before does not work and nobody trusts them either. So what seems to be the point in picking another 12 with differing political views i suppose without the numpties that are on there already! Above is only a suggestion before anyone jumps on the critical bandwagon.
Here we go little snipes with one another about party politics and all that whos knobs bigger and all that! Best way forward would be no parties at all and nothing to look back in time and say this and say that it is time for a community council made up of non political persons but i am expecting people to say oh we cant do this and we cant do that and no way would that work. Well what we got now and what we had before does not work and nobody trusts them either. So what seems to be the point in picking another 12 with differing political views i suppose without the numpties that are on there already! Above is only a suggestion before anyone jumps on the critical bandwagon. bandit_300
  • Score: 0

5:28pm Wed 29 Jan 14

yellowhunter13 says...

bandit_300 wrote:
Here we go little snipes with one another about party politics and all that whos knobs bigger and all that! Best way forward would be no parties at all and nothing to look back in time and say this and say that it is time for a community council made up of non political persons but i am expecting people to say oh we cant do this and we cant do that and no way would that work. Well what we got now and what we had before does not work and nobody trusts them either. So what seems to be the point in picking another 12 with differing political views i suppose without the numpties that are on there already! Above is only a suggestion before anyone jumps on the critical bandwagon.
Could be a goer i suppose and anything is possible and has to be now we have had enough of the idiots at ptc . Dont know an awful lot about Ukip since kilroy silk went a few years ago so cannot comment and as for the other parties well been there seen that and it was vile so on liberal to go but some other option would be great.
[quote][p][bold]bandit_300[/bold] wrote: Here we go little snipes with one another about party politics and all that whos knobs bigger and all that! Best way forward would be no parties at all and nothing to look back in time and say this and say that it is time for a community council made up of non political persons but i am expecting people to say oh we cant do this and we cant do that and no way would that work. Well what we got now and what we had before does not work and nobody trusts them either. So what seems to be the point in picking another 12 with differing political views i suppose without the numpties that are on there already! Above is only a suggestion before anyone jumps on the critical bandwagon.[/p][/quote]Could be a goer i suppose and anything is possible and has to be now we have had enough of the idiots at ptc . Dont know an awful lot about Ukip since kilroy silk went a few years ago so cannot comment and as for the other parties well been there seen that and it was vile so on liberal to go but some other option would be great. yellowhunter13
  • Score: 0

5:57pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Foursite says...

bandit_300 wrote:
Here we go little snipes with one another about party politics and all that whos knobs bigger and all that! Best way forward would be no parties at all and nothing to look back in time and say this and say that it is time for a community council made up of non political persons but i am expecting people to say oh we cant do this and we cant do that and no way would that work. Well what we got now and what we had before does not work and nobody trusts them either. So what seems to be the point in picking another 12 with differing political views i suppose without the numpties that are on there already! Above is only a suggestion before anyone jumps on the critical bandwagon.
Take a look here bandit_300
http://www.devonalc.
org.uk/about-council
s

may give a few ideas.
[quote][p][bold]bandit_300[/bold] wrote: Here we go little snipes with one another about party politics and all that whos knobs bigger and all that! Best way forward would be no parties at all and nothing to look back in time and say this and say that it is time for a community council made up of non political persons but i am expecting people to say oh we cant do this and we cant do that and no way would that work. Well what we got now and what we had before does not work and nobody trusts them either. So what seems to be the point in picking another 12 with differing political views i suppose without the numpties that are on there already! Above is only a suggestion before anyone jumps on the critical bandwagon.[/p][/quote]Take a look here bandit_300 http://www.devonalc. org.uk/about-council s may give a few ideas. Foursite
  • Score: 1

6:09pm Wed 29 Jan 14

common cence says...

Bob Goulding wrote:
common cence wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
common cence wrote:
I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,
Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant.
Nothing to do with politics its to do with plain honest speaking , and you get plain honest advice from UKIP ,
That may be so but when you get involved at this level it is what you believe in the local context that matters. If you are not free to advocate what is best for the community, simply because it is at odds with party doctrine, then perhaps PTC is not for you.
You have a lot to say on these pages are you putting your name forward ?
[quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with politics its to do with plain honest speaking , and you get plain honest advice from UKIP ,[/p][/quote]That may be so but when you get involved at this level it is what you believe in the local context that matters. If you are not free to advocate what is best for the community, simply because it is at odds with party doctrine, then perhaps PTC is not for you.[/p][/quote]You have a lot to say on these pages are you putting your name forward ? common cence
  • Score: 2

6:13pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

yellowhunter13 wrote:
bandit_300 wrote:
Here we go little snipes with one another about party politics and all that whos knobs bigger and all that! Best way forward would be no parties at all and nothing to look back in time and say this and say that it is time for a community council made up of non political persons but i am expecting people to say oh we cant do this and we cant do that and no way would that work. Well what we got now and what we had before does not work and nobody trusts them either. So what seems to be the point in picking another 12 with differing political views i suppose without the numpties that are on there already! Above is only a suggestion before anyone jumps on the critical bandwagon.
Could be a goer i suppose and anything is possible and has to be now we have had enough of the idiots at ptc . Dont know an awful lot about Ukip since kilroy silk went a few years ago so cannot comment and as for the other parties well been there seen that and it was vile so on liberal to go but some other option would be great.
This is exactly the point I was trying to make earlier. Party politics have no place in PTC. If anything, party politics are divisive and self-serving and have little to do with serving the best interests of the community. Let's just pull together and promote policies that truly represent the community's wishes.
[quote][p][bold]yellowhunter13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bandit_300[/bold] wrote: Here we go little snipes with one another about party politics and all that whos knobs bigger and all that! Best way forward would be no parties at all and nothing to look back in time and say this and say that it is time for a community council made up of non political persons but i am expecting people to say oh we cant do this and we cant do that and no way would that work. Well what we got now and what we had before does not work and nobody trusts them either. So what seems to be the point in picking another 12 with differing political views i suppose without the numpties that are on there already! Above is only a suggestion before anyone jumps on the critical bandwagon.[/p][/quote]Could be a goer i suppose and anything is possible and has to be now we have had enough of the idiots at ptc . Dont know an awful lot about Ukip since kilroy silk went a few years ago so cannot comment and as for the other parties well been there seen that and it was vile so on liberal to go but some other option would be great.[/p][/quote]This is exactly the point I was trying to make earlier. Party politics have no place in PTC. If anything, party politics are divisive and self-serving and have little to do with serving the best interests of the community. Let's just pull together and promote policies that truly represent the community's wishes. Bob Goulding
  • Score: 4

6:28pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Gordon Bennett says...

You will never please all of the people all of the time that's for sure. Why do we need all of these councillors ? Why do we need three levels of local government ? Make a start, scrap PTC - it's all but useless and I cannot see that changing.
You will never please all of the people all of the time that's for sure. Why do we need all of these councillors ? Why do we need three levels of local government ? Make a start, scrap PTC - it's all but useless and I cannot see that changing. Gordon Bennett
  • Score: 1

6:28pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

common cence wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
common cence wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
common cence wrote:
I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,
Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant.
Nothing to do with politics its to do with plain honest speaking , and you get plain honest advice from UKIP ,
That may be so but when you get involved at this level it is what you believe in the local context that matters. If you are not free to advocate what is best for the community, simply because it is at odds with party doctrine, then perhaps PTC is not for you.
You have a lot to say on these pages are you putting your name forward ?
Well perhaps one day but, for now, circumstances (work and family) dictate that I have to spend most of my time off the island and would therefore have difficulty in fulfilling PTC commitments. When the time comes, however, I would definitely like to be involved.
[quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]common cence[/bold] wrote: I for 1 will be putting my name down for election to p t c and also as a UKIP supporter , well some ma mock at UKIP members and supporters it does not use bull s..t and lies to get there point over , just plain talking that all can understand, The precept we pay for ptc is nothing but a rip off paying double for what wpbc should be doing , With a bit of luck and support the Mongo and Dented ( sorry about spelling ) clan will be long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Great (if you are serious) the more the better but I don’t think politics make much of a difference at town council level. Policies, yes but politics, irrelevant.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with politics its to do with plain honest speaking , and you get plain honest advice from UKIP ,[/p][/quote]That may be so but when you get involved at this level it is what you believe in the local context that matters. If you are not free to advocate what is best for the community, simply because it is at odds with party doctrine, then perhaps PTC is not for you.[/p][/quote]You have a lot to say on these pages are you putting your name forward ?[/p][/quote]Well perhaps one day but, for now, circumstances (work and family) dictate that I have to spend most of my time off the island and would therefore have difficulty in fulfilling PTC commitments. When the time comes, however, I would definitely like to be involved. Bob Goulding
  • Score: 0

6:52pm Wed 29 Jan 14

common cence says...

craigbastow1@outlook
.com
wrote:
can crabber a.k.a. john thorner please confirm that taxi fares won't be sky high either !!!!
NASTY
[quote][p][bold]craigbastow1@outlook .com[/bold] wrote: can crabber a.k.a. john thorner please confirm that taxi fares won't be sky high either !!!![/p][/quote]NASTY common cence
  • Score: 6

7:08pm Wed 29 Jan 14

ksmain says...

Perhaps the residents of Portland have been underpaying their precept charge and now they have to pay the going rate? What evidence do they have to suggest they have been underpaying?
Perhaps the residents of Portland have been underpaying their precept charge and now they have to pay the going rate? What evidence do they have to suggest they have been underpaying? ksmain
  • Score: -5

7:38pm Wed 29 Jan 14

yellowhunter13 says...

ksmain wrote:
Perhaps the residents of Portland have been underpaying their precept charge and now they have to pay the going rate? What evidence do they have to suggest they have been underpaying?
See you on a lot of posts and always have something to say about Portland so if you dont live on the island then i suggest you do everyone a favour and go forth.......
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the residents of Portland have been underpaying their precept charge and now they have to pay the going rate? What evidence do they have to suggest they have been underpaying?[/p][/quote]See you on a lot of posts and always have something to say about Portland so if you dont live on the island then i suggest you do everyone a favour and go forth....... yellowhunter13
  • Score: 6

8:07pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Wilbraham says...

The next election for the PTC is May 2015. unless someone resigns in which case there could be an election this year. We need someone currently on the council to act as a Stalking Horse and resign and then we can put up some more suitable candidates. Underhill would be preferable but any ward will give us 1 less Munro. Who is brave enough. ?
The next election for the PTC is May 2015. unless someone resigns in which case there could be an election this year. We need someone currently on the council to act as a Stalking Horse and resign and then we can put up some more suitable candidates. Underhill would be preferable but any ward will give us 1 less Munro. Who is brave enough. ? Wilbraham
  • Score: 2

8:10pm Wed 29 Jan 14

yellowhunter13 says...

Wilbraham wrote:
The next election for the PTC is May 2015. unless someone resigns in which case there could be an election this year. We need someone currently on the council to act as a Stalking Horse and resign and then we can put up some more suitable candidates. Underhill would be preferable but any ward will give us 1 less Munro. Who is brave enough. ?
Do you know if theres any way we can get them out because of all the lies and scandal they have caused?? Or do we have to sit down and take it ?
You snap a branch off a tree it can still thrive but you take all the branches off it does not ....
[quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: The next election for the PTC is May 2015. unless someone resigns in which case there could be an election this year. We need someone currently on the council to act as a Stalking Horse and resign and then we can put up some more suitable candidates. Underhill would be preferable but any ward will give us 1 less Munro. Who is brave enough. ?[/p][/quote]Do you know if theres any way we can get them out because of all the lies and scandal they have caused?? Or do we have to sit down and take it ? You snap a branch off a tree it can still thrive but you take all the branches off it does not .... yellowhunter13
  • Score: 1

8:28pm Wed 29 Jan 14

doyle52 says...

I have been looking at all the forums on the precept nonsense and I too was at the meeting on Monday evening and by the looks of it there are plenty of people here that could represent as councillors and do a better job than that lot ever could. There are some also that actually sound like the jokers in ptc presently so they could be avoided. There are a couple about Community council being created now that would be different and possibly could work.
This simply has gone Pear shaped at the moment and those wallies at ptc helped create this monster and now nobody on the island could trust a single one of them even the good guys.
We need to help move them on by creating something different and personally a mirror of what we have would not be acceptable unless all alternative avenues have been driven down.
I have been looking at all the forums on the precept nonsense and I too was at the meeting on Monday evening and by the looks of it there are plenty of people here that could represent as councillors and do a better job than that lot ever could. There are some also that actually sound like the jokers in ptc presently so they could be avoided. There are a couple about Community council being created now that would be different and possibly could work. This simply has gone Pear shaped at the moment and those wallies at ptc helped create this monster and now nobody on the island could trust a single one of them even the good guys. We need to help move them on by creating something different and personally a mirror of what we have would not be acceptable unless all alternative avenues have been driven down. doyle52
  • Score: 3

8:41pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Foursite says...

I dont think Ray Nowaks suggestion of 2% rise is enough, He says he is not standing next year..Expenses have gone up by more than 2%. I am no mathematician but I think a 50%,£7 per year rise could be afforded by most households, If we were able to keep the caretaker and neighbourhood plan. The new neighbourhood plan.for Portland is very important and the whole community have a chance to voice their concerns and actually play part in something constructive for Portland If we except 2% and play into Nowaks hands we will lose the caretaker and neighbourhood plan we have in place at the moment,and that would play into Munro's hands when he can say "told you so". Dont fall for it good people of Portland Nowak and Munro looked very cosy sat together Monday night They would like to stitch us before going believe me. Neighbourhood plan, Community council. We are working on it now Foursite
I dont think Ray Nowaks suggestion of 2% rise is enough, He says he is not standing next year..Expenses have gone up by more than 2%. I am no mathematician but I think a 50%,£7 per year rise could be afforded by most households, If we were able to keep the caretaker and neighbourhood plan. The new neighbourhood plan.for Portland is very important and the whole community have a chance to voice their concerns and actually play part in something constructive for Portland If we except 2% and play into Nowaks hands we will lose the caretaker and neighbourhood plan we have in place at the moment,and that would play into Munro's hands when he can say "told you so". Dont fall for it good people of Portland Nowak and Munro looked very cosy sat together Monday night They would like to stitch us before going believe me. Neighbourhood plan, Community council. We are working on it now Foursite Foursite
  • Score: 3

8:48pm Wed 29 Jan 14

doyle52 says...

Foursite wrote:
I dont think Ray Nowaks suggestion of 2% rise is enough, He says he is not standing next year..Expenses have gone up by more than 2%. I am no mathematician but I think a 50%,£7 per year rise could be afforded by most households, If we were able to keep the caretaker and neighbourhood plan. The new neighbourhood plan.for Portland is very important and the whole community have a chance to voice their concerns and actually play part in something constructive for Portland If we except 2% and play into Nowaks hands we will lose the caretaker and neighbourhood plan we have in place at the moment,and that would play into Munro's hands when he can say "told you so". Dont fall for it good people of Portland Nowak and Munro looked very cosy sat together Monday night They would like to stitch us before going believe me. Neighbourhood plan, Community council. We are working on it now Foursite
Yeah they did seem rather cosy allies foresite but then again now even more that before i dont trust any of them i am afraid.
I saw wpbc operatives once again doing the roundabout down the bottom but they get nose bleeds if they get past officers fields! As i said in a previous posting i am all for changes and some of your points would fit in nicely. I would not like to comment on the rises at this time im bored with em.
[quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: I dont think Ray Nowaks suggestion of 2% rise is enough, He says he is not standing next year..Expenses have gone up by more than 2%. I am no mathematician but I think a 50%,£7 per year rise could be afforded by most households, If we were able to keep the caretaker and neighbourhood plan. The new neighbourhood plan.for Portland is very important and the whole community have a chance to voice their concerns and actually play part in something constructive for Portland If we except 2% and play into Nowaks hands we will lose the caretaker and neighbourhood plan we have in place at the moment,and that would play into Munro's hands when he can say "told you so". Dont fall for it good people of Portland Nowak and Munro looked very cosy sat together Monday night They would like to stitch us before going believe me. Neighbourhood plan, Community council. We are working on it now Foursite[/p][/quote]Yeah they did seem rather cosy allies foresite but then again now even more that before i dont trust any of them i am afraid. I saw wpbc operatives once again doing the roundabout down the bottom but they get nose bleeds if they get past officers fields! As i said in a previous posting i am all for changes and some of your points would fit in nicely. I would not like to comment on the rises at this time im bored with em. doyle52
  • Score: 1

8:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

yellowhunter13 wrote:
Wilbraham wrote:
The next election for the PTC is May 2015. unless someone resigns in which case there could be an election this year. We need someone currently on the council to act as a Stalking Horse and resign and then we can put up some more suitable candidates. Underhill would be preferable but any ward will give us 1 less Munro. Who is brave enough. ?
Do you know if theres any way we can get them out because of all the lies and scandal they have caused?? Or do we have to sit down and take it ?
You snap a branch off a tree it can still thrive but you take all the branches off it does not ....
The only realistic way is to keep up the pressure on individual councillors until they see sense and stand down voluntarily. Perhaps that would then open the doors to new blood and persuade the silent minority and more honourable members of the council to take charge and come up with a more reasonable precept.

HOWEVER, BE READY TO ACT because if a councillor resigns you only have 14 days to register your intention to stand for election (you only need 10 sponsors). The constitution then requires that an election be held within 60 days but, if unopposed, you will be elected anyway. The great thing about this is that the existing town council members have no influence in this process.
[quote][p][bold]yellowhunter13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: The next election for the PTC is May 2015. unless someone resigns in which case there could be an election this year. We need someone currently on the council to act as a Stalking Horse and resign and then we can put up some more suitable candidates. Underhill would be preferable but any ward will give us 1 less Munro. Who is brave enough. ?[/p][/quote]Do you know if theres any way we can get them out because of all the lies and scandal they have caused?? Or do we have to sit down and take it ? You snap a branch off a tree it can still thrive but you take all the branches off it does not ....[/p][/quote]The only realistic way is to keep up the pressure on individual councillors until they see sense and stand down voluntarily. Perhaps that would then open the doors to new blood and persuade the silent minority and more honourable members of the council to take charge and come up with a more reasonable precept. HOWEVER, BE READY TO ACT because if a councillor resigns you only have 14 days to register your intention to stand for election (you only need 10 sponsors). The constitution then requires that an election be held within 60 days but, if unopposed, you will be elected anyway. The great thing about this is that the existing town council members have no influence in this process. Bob Goulding
  • Score: -1

8:53pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Foursite says...

doyle52 wrote:
Foursite wrote:
I dont think Ray Nowaks suggestion of 2% rise is enough, He says he is not standing next year..Expenses have gone up by more than 2%. I am no mathematician but I think a 50%,£7 per year rise could be afforded by most households, If we were able to keep the caretaker and neighbourhood plan. The new neighbourhood plan.for Portland is very important and the whole community have a chance to voice their concerns and actually play part in something constructive for Portland If we except 2% and play into Nowaks hands we will lose the caretaker and neighbourhood plan we have in place at the moment,and that would play into Munro's hands when he can say "told you so". Dont fall for it good people of Portland Nowak and Munro looked very cosy sat together Monday night They would like to stitch us before going believe me. Neighbourhood plan, Community council. We are working on it now Foursite
Yeah they did seem rather cosy allies foresite but then again now even more that before i dont trust any of them i am afraid.
I saw wpbc operatives once again doing the roundabout down the bottom but they get nose bleeds if they get past officers fields! As i said in a previous posting i am all for changes and some of your points would fit in nicely. I would not like to comment on the rises at this time im bored with em.
The correct name spelling would be nice?
[quote][p][bold]doyle52[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: I dont think Ray Nowaks suggestion of 2% rise is enough, He says he is not standing next year..Expenses have gone up by more than 2%. I am no mathematician but I think a 50%,£7 per year rise could be afforded by most households, If we were able to keep the caretaker and neighbourhood plan. The new neighbourhood plan.for Portland is very important and the whole community have a chance to voice their concerns and actually play part in something constructive for Portland If we except 2% and play into Nowaks hands we will lose the caretaker and neighbourhood plan we have in place at the moment,and that would play into Munro's hands when he can say "told you so". Dont fall for it good people of Portland Nowak and Munro looked very cosy sat together Monday night They would like to stitch us before going believe me. Neighbourhood plan, Community council. We are working on it now Foursite[/p][/quote]Yeah they did seem rather cosy allies foresite but then again now even more that before i dont trust any of them i am afraid. I saw wpbc operatives once again doing the roundabout down the bottom but they get nose bleeds if they get past officers fields! As i said in a previous posting i am all for changes and some of your points would fit in nicely. I would not like to comment on the rises at this time im bored with em.[/p][/quote]The correct name spelling would be nice? Foursite
  • Score: 0

9:53pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Foursite says...

Dont understand how Mr Nowak can be on the facebook page Portland against the precept when he voted for it ?
Dont understand how Mr Nowak can be on the facebook page Portland against the precept when he voted for it ? Foursite
  • Score: 2

7:53am Thu 30 Jan 14

Tillydog says...

Foursite!, you must apologise to Rickets.I have it on good authority (the Verne) that Rickets is merely Denton White's nick name, excuse the pun, am not sure whether he knows it. Rickets of course is
a terrible disease that causes soft bones due to the lack of vitamin D, lacking sunshine or being kept in the dark,it can cause bowed legs.and a soft or weak head. Knowing this they should call it Denton White
arf arf Dog bless Portland people.x.
Foursite!, you must apologise to Rickets.I have it on good authority (the Verne) that Rickets is merely Denton White's nick name, excuse the pun, am not sure whether he knows it. Rickets of course is a terrible disease that causes soft bones due to the lack of vitamin D, lacking sunshine or being kept in the dark,it can cause bowed legs.and a soft or weak head. Knowing this they should call it Denton White arf arf Dog bless Portland people.x. Tillydog
  • Score: 0

12:21pm Thu 30 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)
As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?
Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play
[quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.[/p][/quote]But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)[/p][/quote]As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?[/p][/quote]Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play elloello1980
  • Score: 1

12:38pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)
As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?
Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play
And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.[/p][/quote]But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)[/p][/quote]As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?[/p][/quote]Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play[/p][/quote]And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric. Bob Goulding
  • Score: -1

12:57pm Thu 30 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)
As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?
Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play
And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric.
Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric, says the man who has yet to back anything up.

Please justify why the Tories should remain in power come next election?

Remember, I'm tied to no party... ;)
[quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.[/p][/quote]But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)[/p][/quote]As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?[/p][/quote]Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play[/p][/quote]And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric.[/p][/quote]Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric, says the man who has yet to back anything up. Please justify why the Tories should remain in power come next election? Remember, I'm tied to no party... ;) elloello1980
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1:08pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)
As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?
Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play
And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric.
Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric, says the man who has yet to back anything up.

Please justify why the Tories should remain in power come next election?

Remember, I'm tied to no party... ;)
It would be wasted on you so what would be the point?
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.[/p][/quote]But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)[/p][/quote]As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?[/p][/quote]Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play[/p][/quote]And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric.[/p][/quote]Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric, says the man who has yet to back anything up. Please justify why the Tories should remain in power come next election? Remember, I'm tied to no party... ;)[/p][/quote]It would be wasted on you so what would be the point? Bob Goulding
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2:59pm Thu 30 Jan 14

bandit_300 says...

Picture this, the same lunatic who proposed the 1000% rise knows he is for the chop and his days are numbered. Sat down with his deadly abacus he figures I will just be nice to Portland before I go. Mmmm
So I propose to cut the current precept by 50% to a low £7.00 and they will love me for ever and i will be the saviour !!
We swallow it because we know he is a lovely truthful person who never ever tells porkies oh no ?
And we are happy because it is now cheap for us ? We won ! Yippee !
Wrong ! Now we have no money on Portland he walks away laughing and rubbing his hands with glee ! Well we know the 1000% is based on a big white lie but I know this 50% is 1000% true but then again what do I know ??
Picture this, the same lunatic who proposed the 1000% rise knows he is for the chop and his days are numbered. Sat down with his deadly abacus he figures I will just be nice to Portland before I go. Mmmm So I propose to cut the current precept by 50% to a low £7.00 and they will love me for ever and i will be the saviour !! We swallow it because we know he is a lovely truthful person who never ever tells porkies oh no ? And we are happy because it is now cheap for us ? We won ! Yippee ! Wrong ! Now we have no money on Portland he walks away laughing and rubbing his hands with glee ! Well we know the 1000% is based on a big white lie but I know this 50% is 1000% true but then again what do I know ?? bandit_300
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4:06pm Thu 30 Jan 14

yellowhunter13 says...

bandit_300 wrote:
Picture this, the same lunatic who proposed the 1000% rise knows he is for the chop and his days are numbered. Sat down with his deadly abacus he figures I will just be nice to Portland before I go. Mmmm
So I propose to cut the current precept by 50% to a low £7.00 and they will love me for ever and i will be the saviour !!
We swallow it because we know he is a lovely truthful person who never ever tells porkies oh no ?
And we are happy because it is now cheap for us ? We won ! Yippee !
Wrong ! Now we have no money on Portland he walks away laughing and rubbing his hands with glee ! Well we know the 1000% is based on a big white lie but I know this 50% is 1000% true but then again what do I know ??
Would not put anything past that prat ! We shall see .
[quote][p][bold]bandit_300[/bold] wrote: Picture this, the same lunatic who proposed the 1000% rise knows he is for the chop and his days are numbered. Sat down with his deadly abacus he figures I will just be nice to Portland before I go. Mmmm So I propose to cut the current precept by 50% to a low £7.00 and they will love me for ever and i will be the saviour !! We swallow it because we know he is a lovely truthful person who never ever tells porkies oh no ? And we are happy because it is now cheap for us ? We won ! Yippee ! Wrong ! Now we have no money on Portland he walks away laughing and rubbing his hands with glee ! Well we know the 1000% is based on a big white lie but I know this 50% is 1000% true but then again what do I know ??[/p][/quote]Would not put anything past that prat ! We shall see . yellowhunter13
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6:19pm Thu 30 Jan 14

WestDorsetLass says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats*

And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party?

Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting)

Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)
If only we could stop wasting energy on quibbling about apportioning blame - the fact is the UK doesn't operate in a bubble, but is inextricably linked with the rest of the world - economically, industrially, socially, culturally, environmentally etc etc. The implications of that are that the UK is sensitive to whatever may be going on outside of the UK, and at any one time this can present a large number of significant challenges. I think that a vision of unhindered economic prosperity in one country is unfortunately unrealistic because of what I was going to call external pressures (meaning other countries) - but because we are so linked to the rest of the world I shall just call them pressures.

The forces that these pressures exert will inevitably mean that from time to time here in the UK we will experience fluctuating levels of economic prosperity, and at times we may not feel at all prosperous. Perhaps though we should just be grateful that the majority of us have a roof over our heads, food to eat, free at the point of treatment healthcare and all the other riches that 20% of the world's population enjoys. In the times of economic fluctuation, it doesn't matter who's in charge - because whoever it is is going to have a tough job steering towards recovery because of the myriad rest of the world influences that are often contradictory and challenging. So the derogatory clichés of Blair/Brown, the Tories are just sadly predictable retrospective diversions from the challenges ahead of us.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.[/p][/quote]But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)[/p][/quote]If only we could stop wasting energy on quibbling about apportioning blame - the fact is the UK doesn't operate in a bubble, but is inextricably linked with the rest of the world - economically, industrially, socially, culturally, environmentally etc etc. The implications of that are that the UK is sensitive to whatever may be going on outside of the UK, and at any one time this can present a large number of significant challenges. I think that a vision of unhindered economic prosperity in one country is unfortunately unrealistic because of what I was going to call external pressures (meaning other countries) - but because we are so linked to the rest of the world I shall just call them pressures. The forces that these pressures exert will inevitably mean that from time to time here in the UK we will experience fluctuating levels of economic prosperity, and at times we may not feel at all prosperous. Perhaps though we should just be grateful that the majority of us have a roof over our heads, food to eat, free at the point of treatment healthcare and all the other riches that 20% of the world's population enjoys. In the times of economic fluctuation, it doesn't matter who's in charge - because whoever it is is going to have a tough job steering towards recovery because of the myriad rest of the world influences that are often contradictory and challenging. So the derogatory clichés of Blair/Brown, the Tories are just sadly predictable retrospective diversions from the challenges ahead of us. WestDorsetLass
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9:34am Fri 31 Jan 14

Foursite says...

Information has come my way that Tim Munro has plans to take Portland Town council with him,He is a lost cause.His drunken ramblings reveal he is wanting to drop the Portland Precept from £!4 by 50% to £7 thus leaving us no neighbourhood plan which could potentially control development boundaries on the Island and lose the recently appointed caretaker loss of other staff and grants.He knows he is going and wants to take PTC with him. I support Paul Kimber on this after considerable thought I don't believe it would be in Portland's best interest to lose PTC.We must support a precept rise( to be determined)and not a decrease to have any chance of saving our Isle from the clutches of DCC, who have proved by their absence over many years they care not to much for the Jewel in the crown of Dorset thank you .Foursite
Information has come my way that Tim Munro has plans to take Portland Town council with him,He is a lost cause.His drunken ramblings reveal he is wanting to drop the Portland Precept from £!4 by 50% to £7 thus leaving us no neighbourhood plan which could potentially control development boundaries on the Island and lose the recently appointed caretaker loss of other staff and grants.He knows he is going and wants to take PTC with him. I support Paul Kimber on this after considerable thought I don't believe it would be in Portland's best interest to lose PTC.We must support a precept rise( to be determined)and not a decrease to have any chance of saving our Isle from the clutches of DCC, who have proved by their absence over many years they care not to much for the Jewel in the crown of Dorset thank you .Foursite Foursite
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2:03pm Fri 31 Jan 14

elloello1980 says...

Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)
As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?
Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play
And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric.
Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric, says the man who has yet to back anything up. Please justify why the Tories should remain in power come next election? Remember, I'm tied to no party... ;)
It would be wasted on you so what would be the point?
aww, now who's on the insults. Hypocrite?

I'll sleep better tonight knowing I've upset you ;)

A vote is a vote. Mine is as strong as yours, albeit less biased
[quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.[/p][/quote]But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)[/p][/quote]As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?[/p][/quote]Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play[/p][/quote]And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric.[/p][/quote]Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric, says the man who has yet to back anything up. Please justify why the Tories should remain in power come next election? Remember, I'm tied to no party... ;)[/p][/quote]It would be wasted on you so what would be the point?[/p][/quote]aww, now who's on the insults. Hypocrite? I'll sleep better tonight knowing I've upset you ;) A vote is a vote. Mine is as strong as yours, albeit less biased elloello1980
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2:43pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Bob Goulding says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Bob Goulding wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote:
smilealoft44 wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.
Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?
Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.
I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)
Blair/Brown's legacy more like.
same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.
If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.
But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)
As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?
Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play
And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric.
Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric, says the man who has yet to back anything up. Please justify why the Tories should remain in power come next election? Remember, I'm tied to no party... ;)
It would be wasted on you so what would be the point?
aww, now who's on the insults. Hypocrite?

I'll sleep better tonight knowing I've upset you ;)

A vote is a vote. Mine is as strong as yours, albeit less biased
Upset? I'm delighted that I have wasted your time! Sleep on Troll.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Goulding[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smilealoft44[/bold] wrote: The reason this has been so troublesome for all normal tax payers is because of Richard Drax and his party cutting everything.At the end of the day we need services and they will have to be paid for. Collecting taxes from companys that avoid them would be a start. (but thats a different matter) How could someone at the meeting indicate that they had an E mail saying something it did not. Did it exist? I think a letter of resignation is now due to the locals on PORTLAND. As for Richard being to busy i suspect had the meeting been at SANDBANKS he would of managed to get there.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your reading and understanding this ?Why the negative vote?[/p][/quote]Probably because of your inability to grasp that the Tory party are cutting things because of the mess they were left with.[/p][/quote]I'm with James on this, Thatcher's legacy is still ruining lives ;)[/p][/quote]Blair/Brown's legacy more like.[/p][/quote]same old tories. Always putting others down to make themselves look the better. But if we simply talk in achievements, the Tories have failed.[/p][/quote]If you believe 'standing watch' over just about the worst financial disaster in living memory is an achievement then thank God you're not a Tory. Seems to me that you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others.[/p][/quote]But, the Tories have still failed at that ;) *awaits the selective stats* And putting myself down? I thought we was talking about political parties? Or are you one of those 'Tory for life' types, regardless of what joker you have in the party? Tis like Weymouth FC supporters. You know you'll never actually achieve anything, but you still play your very small part in attending (voting) Roll on next elections and deciding which corrupt party I'll choose this time. because let's face it, none of them can be trusted, but it's all we got ;)[/p][/quote]As I said, you are quite capable of putting yourself down without any help from others. My philosophy in life can be summarised simply as 'Stand out' is better than 'Hand out' and 'Action' is better than 'Inertia'. Comprende?[/p][/quote]Would not have expected any more from yourself. No facts, just an attempt at clever word play[/p][/quote]And where are your facts? Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric.[/p][/quote]Seems you only deal in unsubstantiated rhetoric, says the man who has yet to back anything up. Please justify why the Tories should remain in power come next election? Remember, I'm tied to no party... ;)[/p][/quote]It would be wasted on you so what would be the point?[/p][/quote]aww, now who's on the insults. Hypocrite? I'll sleep better tonight knowing I've upset you ;) A vote is a vote. Mine is as strong as yours, albeit less biased[/p][/quote]Upset? I'm delighted that I have wasted your time! Sleep on Troll. Bob Goulding
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