Richard Drax MP's column: A question of immigration

Dorset Echo: Richard Drax Richard Drax

FOR the first time Ipsos Mori has found that immigration is as important to voters as the economy. The poll is timely, as this week the Immigration Bill was again in the Commons.

The Bill was designed to limit immigrants’ access to services, medical care and jobs. Under its provisions, EU migrants must wait longer for benefits, and pay for services from the NHS.

Unfortunately, there were so many amendments to the Bill that, though most are to be welcomed, few will be enacted.

This is regrettable because I supported two amendments in particular. The first, by Nigel Mills MP, aims to reinstate the transitional arrangements for Bulgarian and Romanian migrants, which were lifted on December 31.

From that moment, citizens from the EU’s two most recent ‘accession countries’ had full employment rights in the UK.

The poll shows what most voters think of that, as does the rise of Ukip.

The second amendment, by Dominic Raab MP, makes it mandatory to deport foreigners who receive a prison sentence of a year or longer. Currently, under Article Eight of the European Convention on Human Rights, 89 per cent of appeals against deportation are successful because of a criminal’s ‘right to a family life’ if they have relatives here.

Mr Raab rightly describes this as the ‘biggest human rights problem we’ve got’.

Meanwhile, at present rates of growth, our population will hit an unsustainable 70 million by 2027.

Immigration is a sovereign matter and it is we who should decide who comes here and issue visas accordingly.

However, the EU makes that impossible and now that the referendum bill is all but sunk in the Lords, it’s unlikely we’ll ever be able to control our borders for many years to come.

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11:48am Fri 31 Jan 14

livid99 says...

So where is the huge surge of Romanians and Bulgarians which everyone was braced for ? Have they seen the weather here and changed their mind ?
To me it seems a bit like the year 2000 computer bug, which was supposed to bring the world crashing down at the stroke of midnight, and then nothing happened. So either the millions of evil, house-stealing, job-stealing, benefit-seeking Romanian and Bulgarian criminals have flooded into the country since 1 January but kept very quiet, or the anti-immigrant right wing scaremongers were wetting themselves in fear for nothing.
So where is the huge surge of Romanians and Bulgarians which everyone was braced for ? Have they seen the weather here and changed their mind ? To me it seems a bit like the year 2000 computer bug, which was supposed to bring the world crashing down at the stroke of midnight, and then nothing happened. So either the millions of evil, house-stealing, job-stealing, benefit-seeking Romanian and Bulgarian criminals have flooded into the country since 1 January but kept very quiet, or the anti-immigrant right wing scaremongers were wetting themselves in fear for nothing. livid99
  • Score: -8

1:08pm Fri 31 Jan 14

JamesYoung says...

livid99 wrote:
So where is the huge surge of Romanians and Bulgarians which everyone was braced for ? Have they seen the weather here and changed their mind ?
To me it seems a bit like the year 2000 computer bug, which was supposed to bring the world crashing down at the stroke of midnight, and then nothing happened. So either the millions of evil, house-stealing, job-stealing, benefit-seeking Romanian and Bulgarian criminals have flooded into the country since 1 January but kept very quiet, or the anti-immigrant right wing scaremongers were wetting themselves in fear for nothing.
Look at the population of Britain since 1997, then look at the birth rate. There's your immigration. Whether that's a good or bad thing i leave you to decide.
However your reference to the millennium bug is ill informed. I worked for a global company on a Y2K programme and i can absolutely assure you that were it not for the fact that every last piece of equipment was either replaced, or had its software updated, you would not have had the lights on on New Years Day.
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: So where is the huge surge of Romanians and Bulgarians which everyone was braced for ? Have they seen the weather here and changed their mind ? To me it seems a bit like the year 2000 computer bug, which was supposed to bring the world crashing down at the stroke of midnight, and then nothing happened. So either the millions of evil, house-stealing, job-stealing, benefit-seeking Romanian and Bulgarian criminals have flooded into the country since 1 January but kept very quiet, or the anti-immigrant right wing scaremongers were wetting themselves in fear for nothing.[/p][/quote]Look at the population of Britain since 1997, then look at the birth rate. There's your immigration. Whether that's a good or bad thing i leave you to decide. However your reference to the millennium bug is ill informed. I worked for a global company on a Y2K programme and i can absolutely assure you that were it not for the fact that every last piece of equipment was either replaced, or had its software updated, you would not have had the lights on on New Years Day. JamesYoung
  • Score: 4

1:19pm Fri 31 Jan 14

livid99 says...

So how many Romanian and Bulgarians have arrived since 1 January 2014 ?
Does it match the predictions ?
So how many Romanian and Bulgarians have arrived since 1 January 2014 ? Does it match the predictions ? livid99
  • Score: -3

2:33pm Fri 31 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

livid99 wrote:
So how many Romanian and Bulgarians have arrived since 1 January 2014 ?
Does it match the predictions ?
I think the multitudes camping in the street and parks in the center of London give you an idea, they are already here if you bothered to look.

Thanks to the Gutless conservatives and their blind EU obedience

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This was 2012 , when they shouldn't have even been here !
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: So how many Romanian and Bulgarians have arrived since 1 January 2014 ? Does it match the predictions ?[/p][/quote]I think the multitudes camping in the street and parks in the center of London give you an idea, they are already here if you bothered to look. Thanks to the Gutless conservatives and their blind EU obedience .http://www.standard .co.uk/news/london/r omanian-beggars-wire -west-end-proceeds-h ome--hours-after-pol ice-taskforce-is-ann ounced-7956149.html This was 2012 , when they shouldn't have even been here ! David_divenghy2
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3:29pm Fri 31 Jan 14

livid99 says...

Not exactly the millions all the right-wing nutters were freaking out about though.....
Not exactly the millions all the right-wing nutters were freaking out about though..... livid99
  • Score: -3

4:15pm Fri 31 Jan 14

David_divenghy2 says...

I don't recall anyone saying millions? However I do recall clearly a forecast of around 30-70 thousand a year mostly given. Over 100,000 are already here and to base any further assumptions or more solid guesses on the first few weeks is ridiculous.

As James said, do the math.
I don't recall anyone saying millions? However I do recall clearly a forecast of around 30-70 thousand a year mostly given. Over 100,000 are already here and to base any further assumptions or more solid guesses on the first few weeks is ridiculous. As James said, do the math. David_divenghy2
  • Score: 0

4:27pm Fri 31 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

David_divenghy2 wrote:
I don't recall anyone saying millions? However I do recall clearly a forecast of around 30-70 thousand a year mostly given. Over 100,000 are already here and to base any further assumptions or more solid guesses on the first few weeks is ridiculous.

As James said, do the math.
Is that to many men and women DD or just women?
[quote][p][bold]David_divenghy2[/bold] wrote: I don't recall anyone saying millions? However I do recall clearly a forecast of around 30-70 thousand a year mostly given. Over 100,000 are already here and to base any further assumptions or more solid guesses on the first few weeks is ridiculous. As James said, do the math.[/p][/quote]Is that to many men and women DD or just women? woodsedge
  • Score: -1

6:12pm Fri 31 Jan 14

smilealoft44 says...

Unlikely we will be able to control our borders for many years to come.
Well Richard maybe you should advise the voters to vote UKIP. It will be the only way to control our borders. Im not a racist but this country already has enougth poor people we dont need any more. Our schools are brought down to lower standards because children from all countrys of the world come here and do not speak English. A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 different laungeges
PETERBOURGH 100 different laungeges.
In areas of high E/U populations the tradesmen end up loosing there work to the E/U WORKERS BECAUSE THEY WORK CHEAPER, if they choose to pay there tax in the country they come from its lower than ours and no benifit to us.
SO ALL WE CAN DO NOW IS VOTE UKIP AND WITHDRAW FROM THE EU!
Unlikely we will be able to control our borders for many years to come. Well Richard maybe you should advise the voters to vote UKIP. It will be the only way to control our borders. Im not a racist but this country already has enougth poor people we dont need any more. Our schools are brought down to lower standards because children from all countrys of the world come here and do not speak English. A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 different laungeges PETERBOURGH 100 different laungeges. In areas of high E/U populations the tradesmen end up loosing there work to the E/U WORKERS BECAUSE THEY WORK CHEAPER, if they choose to pay there tax in the country they come from its lower than ours and no benifit to us. SO ALL WE CAN DO NOW IS VOTE UKIP AND WITHDRAW FROM THE EU! smilealoft44
  • Score: 5

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