Man attacked by dog on Weymouth beach taken to hospital

Dorset Echo: CLASH: Weymouth seafront CLASH: Weymouth seafront

A man was taken to hospital after being attacked by a dog on Weymouth beach.

The man had rushed to rescue his own dog, which had been grabbed around the neck by a Staffordshire bull terrier.

Dorset Police are investigating the incident and a spokeswoman for the force said the man, aged 53, was treated at Dorset County Hospital.

Colin Sparrow was also walking his dog at the beach when the attack happened.

He bravely helped the dog owner to separate the animals.

Mr Sparrow described the attack as ‘horrific’.

He said: “We were quite a way behind when I saw this Staffie running up and grab this other dog around the neck.

“There were four Staffies altogether and they were running loose.

“The people who were walking with them had children as well, who were screaming at what was happening.

“I’ve never seen anything like it.”

The dog owner was seen to by paramedics at the scene and later taken to Dorset County Hospital.

Mr Sparrow said ambulance staff also cared for the injured dog before he was seen by a vet.

He said: “It was nice to see that. They really went above and beyond.”

He added: “As a dog owner myself, it was really shocking to see. Staffies can be lovely dogs but you need to know how to handle them.

“You can’t just take them as a pack onto the beach like that.

“Children witnessed what happened. They must have been terrified.”

A Dorset Police spokeswoman said: “We received a call from a member of the public at just after 8pm on Tuesday.

A man had been bitten by a dog on the beach and a number of dogs were off the lead.

“The matter is being investigated and no arrests have been made.”

Any witnesses are asked to call Dorset Police on 101.

A spokesman for Weymouth and Portland Borough Council said the matter had not been referred to the dog warden.

Borough councillor and deputy mayor of Weymouth and Portland Kate Wheller said the incident illustrates why she put forward a notice of motion to ban dogs from the beach in the summer.

Under the current Dog Exclusion Order, dogs are allowed on the beach between October and April. In summer, they can be taken on to the dog exercise area at the Pavilion end of the beach.

But under Cllr Wheller’s proposal, there would be a blanket ban on taking dogs onto the beach from April 1 to October 31.

Councillors are due to discuss the matter at the next policy development committee meeting in April. Cllr Wheller said: “It seems that people are just not keeping their dogs in check as much anymore, and it’s something we can’t ignore.”

INCIDENT FOLLOWS MAULING

THE attack comes just days after a baby was mauled to death by a dog in Blackburn, Lancashire.

Ava Jayne Corless was upstairs in bed when the attack took place on Monday evening. Two people – Ava’s mother and her partner – have been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter.

The dog, believed to be an illegal pit bull-type dog, was destroyed.

Comments (78)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

8:04am Fri 14 Feb 14

Vulpesv says...

During the winter why not have a fence put on the beech to show the designated dog area instead of them running all over the beech? Also have new signs with rules eg all dogs must wear muzzles and no unsupervised children behold this point.. Or use the ribbon scheme to show if a dogs stressed, on heat, does not like other dogs.
The dog owners need to be able to enjoy the beech, but I agree there needs to be some control, Fingers crossed this was a one off. Though.
All dogs can bite and attack not just Staffies.
During the winter why not have a fence put on the beech to show the designated dog area instead of them running all over the beech? Also have new signs with rules eg all dogs must wear muzzles and no unsupervised children behold this point.. Or use the ribbon scheme to show if a dogs stressed, on heat, does not like other dogs. The dog owners need to be able to enjoy the beech, but I agree there needs to be some control, Fingers crossed this was a one off. Though. All dogs can bite and attack not just Staffies. Vulpesv

8:54am Fri 14 Feb 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs.
'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself.
The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...
Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs. 'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself. The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them... Parkstreetshufle

8:58am Fri 14 Feb 14

Jimmytheone says...

I bet this will start a thread of thousands of comments going over old ground. I have a dog and i walk on the beach. Simple i am responsible for everything from not dropping litter.Paying my Taxes complying with the laws of the land.
I accept I AM resposible for my dog therefore i keep it under control, pick up its mess. Whats the problem i am responsible if i break the rules i carry the can prosecute me. No need for blanket laws resposibilty and commonsense says it all end of.
I bet this will start a thread of thousands of comments going over old ground. I have a dog and i walk on the beach. Simple i am responsible for everything from not dropping litter.Paying my Taxes complying with the laws of the land. I accept I AM resposible for my dog therefore i keep it under control, pick up its mess. Whats the problem i am responsible if i break the rules i carry the can prosecute me. No need for blanket laws resposibilty and commonsense says it all end of. Jimmytheone

9:02am Fri 14 Feb 14

Jimmytheone says...

Parstreetshufle spot on Responsibility as i have already said
Parstreetshufle spot on Responsibility as i have already said Jimmytheone

9:09am Fri 14 Feb 14

mollyanna says...

True their were 4staffies off the lead /can't get my head around it or understand it //// the owners had no control at all.....zero.... Had kids with them ???? 3 were attacking this poor dog one had locked its jaws around this dogs head had to use collar to strangle it to release. These dogs are a pack have had a taste people could be next
Staffs are not like other dogs because of their locked jaws
It is not the dogs I blame but the stupid owners who don't know enough about the dogs or how to control them
No it is not hate the staffs as I know some that are great with owners who have control
My thoughts go to the owner and his dog
True their were 4staffies off the lead /can't get my head around it or understand it //// the owners had no control at all.....zero.... Had kids with them ???? 3 were attacking this poor dog one had locked its jaws around this dogs head had to use collar to strangle it to release. These dogs are a pack have had a taste people could be next Staffs are not like other dogs because of their locked jaws It is not the dogs I blame but the stupid owners who don't know enough about the dogs or how to control them No it is not hate the staffs as I know some that are great with owners who have control My thoughts go to the owner and his dog mollyanna

9:19am Fri 14 Feb 14

rospar says...

That is always the problem when something like this happens, the dog haters and the do-gooders come out from under their stones and attack not only these bad dog owners but the good ones as well. I have visited many coastal towns in Dorset and have seen dog wardens patrolling in all of them but I have never seen one in Weymouth. Also I see the deputy Mayor calling for a blanket ban on dogs in the summer, what a load of tosh, a lot of tourists come here for the reason that they can bring their dogs.
That is always the problem when something like this happens, the dog haters and the do-gooders come out from under their stones and attack not only these bad dog owners but the good ones as well. I have visited many coastal towns in Dorset and have seen dog wardens patrolling in all of them but I have never seen one in Weymouth. Also I see the deputy Mayor calling for a blanket ban on dogs in the summer, what a load of tosh, a lot of tourists come here for the reason that they can bring their dogs. rospar

9:22am Fri 14 Feb 14

mollyanna says...

Sorry but you are all going on about the beach !!!! To hell with the beach
This is about 4 dangerous out of control staffs and owners !!!!?
I was their
This poor man was in shock his hand a mess
His poor dog. I know Wednesday it was still alive but in serious condition at the vets
Hello people but until these dogs people are found anyone of us could be next
Sorry but you are all going on about the beach !!!! To hell with the beach This is about 4 dangerous out of control staffs and owners !!!!? I was their This poor man was in shock his hand a mess His poor dog. I know Wednesday it was still alive but in serious condition at the vets Hello people but until these dogs people are found anyone of us could be next mollyanna

9:28am Fri 14 Feb 14

Laadeeda says...

Why is it folk who own Staffies see no wrong in their animals. I am fed up with hearing of these attacks and listening to the "it wouldn't hurt a fly" responses.

They appear all too often in the press in this type of act.

Yes, all dogs can be dangerous but Staffies appear all too often in bad light.
Why is it folk who own Staffies see no wrong in their animals. I am fed up with hearing of these attacks and listening to the "it wouldn't hurt a fly" responses. They appear all too often in the press in this type of act. Yes, all dogs can be dangerous but Staffies appear all too often in bad light. Laadeeda

10:30am Fri 14 Feb 14

mrgoo says...

as a regular dog walker on the beach i am saddened to hear about this attack, the poor chap must be in a right state. The biggest worry for owners exercising dogs on the beach are pitbulls / staffs off the lead. This is down to the fact the majority (not all) treat the dogs badly, the dogs themselves can be well behaved if trained properly but i see so many with young punks who think that the dog is part of gang life!! They should all be muzzled when in public - and this goes for the majority of owners
as a regular dog walker on the beach i am saddened to hear about this attack, the poor chap must be in a right state. The biggest worry for owners exercising dogs on the beach are pitbulls / staffs off the lead. This is down to the fact the majority (not all) treat the dogs badly, the dogs themselves can be well behaved if trained properly but i see so many with young punks who think that the dog is part of gang life!! They should all be muzzled when in public - and this goes for the majority of owners mrgoo

10:36am Fri 14 Feb 14

scubadude says...

I have no problem with people having any dog they like and running it off the lead on the beach- but they should be held responsible and punished correctly, currently they mostly get away completely.
Perhaps the penalty should be having your hand fed into one of the councils wood chippers, about the same as being chewed gently by a staffie!
I have no problem with people having any dog they like and running it off the lead on the beach- but they should be held responsible and punished correctly, currently they mostly get away completely. Perhaps the penalty should be having your hand fed into one of the councils wood chippers, about the same as being chewed gently by a staffie! scubadude

11:11am Fri 14 Feb 14

The Yardy says...

Staffies, Pit Bull type dogs, breed by humans to be muscle bound Fighting/Killing Machines; incorrectly handled / controlled the fighting instinct comes to the fore.
The same inbreed instincts, will make an incorrectly handled / trained Collie try to roundup anything that moves be it other dogs, children, or even cyclists.
An uncontrolled Springer Spaniel will happily quarter the whole beach to make the Gulls fly, their instinct is to make birds take off, for the hunters to shot down.
Dogs cannot help what mankind as built into them, it’s up to us to have a suitable type dog that we can correctly train, handle, & control, all to often this is not the case with the fighting type dogs.
Don’t start on about Dog Licences that will only give more money to the government without addressing the problem dog owners.
Millions of us have driving licences but it does not stop us from speeding or driving dangerously.
Staffies, Pit Bull type dogs, breed by humans to be muscle bound Fighting/Killing Machines; incorrectly handled / controlled the fighting instinct comes to the fore. The same inbreed instincts, will make an incorrectly handled / trained Collie try to roundup anything that moves be it other dogs, children, or even cyclists. An uncontrolled Springer Spaniel will happily quarter the whole beach to make the Gulls fly, their instinct is to make birds take off, for the hunters to shot down. Dogs cannot help what mankind as built into them, it’s up to us to have a suitable type dog that we can correctly train, handle, & control, all to often this is not the case with the fighting type dogs. Don’t start on about Dog Licences that will only give more money to the government without addressing the problem dog owners. Millions of us have driving licences but it does not stop us from speeding or driving dangerously. The Yardy

11:19am Fri 14 Feb 14

shy talk says...

mollyanna wrote:
True their were 4staffies off the lead /can't get my head around it or understand it //// the owners had no control at all.....zero.... Had kids with them ???? 3 were attacking this poor dog one had locked its jaws around this dogs head had to use collar to strangle it to release. These dogs are a pack have had a taste people could be next
Staffs are not like other dogs because of their locked jaws
It is not the dogs I blame but the stupid owners who don't know enough about the dogs or how to control them
No it is not hate the staffs as I know some that are great with owners who have control
My thoughts go to the owner and his dog
Mollyanna. No type of dog has been found to have a mechanism that enables them to “lock” their top and bottom jaws together. A complete myth.

We have legislation covered by the Dangerous Dogs Act. In Ireland they have addition legislation under The Restricted Breeds. Certain breeds of dog and crosses the Staffordshire bull terrier being one.

A person must keep these dogs or strains and crosses of them on a short strong lead be over 16 years of age, who are capable of controlling them. In public areas the dog must muzzled at all times.

Should we follow their example?
[quote][p][bold]mollyanna[/bold] wrote: True their were 4staffies off the lead /can't get my head around it or understand it //// the owners had no control at all.....zero.... Had kids with them ???? 3 were attacking this poor dog one had locked its jaws around this dogs head had to use collar to strangle it to release. These dogs are a pack have had a taste people could be next Staffs are not like other dogs because of their locked jaws It is not the dogs I blame but the stupid owners who don't know enough about the dogs or how to control them No it is not hate the staffs as I know some that are great with owners who have control My thoughts go to the owner and his dog[/p][/quote]Mollyanna. No type of dog has been found to have a mechanism that enables them to “lock” their top and bottom jaws together. A complete myth. We have legislation covered by the Dangerous Dogs Act. In Ireland they have addition legislation under The Restricted Breeds. Certain breeds of dog and crosses the Staffordshire bull terrier being one. A person must keep these dogs or strains and crosses of them on a short strong lead be over 16 years of age, who are capable of controlling them. In public areas the dog must muzzled at all times. Should we follow their example? shy talk

11:31am Fri 14 Feb 14

rospar says...

"Mollyanna. No type of dog has been found to have a mechanism that enables them to “lock” their top and bottom jaws together. A complete myth."

Have you ever seen an attack, I don,t believe you have, it took 2 minutes of near strangulation for that Staffie to release its hold on the poor dogs neck and all the time it was trying to shake it to death, so don't tell me about myths until you have seen first hand a savage attack like this one.
"Mollyanna. No type of dog has been found to have a mechanism that enables them to “lock” their top and bottom jaws together. A complete myth." Have you ever seen an attack, I don,t believe you have, it took 2 minutes of near strangulation for that Staffie to release its hold on the poor dogs neck and all the time it was trying to shake it to death, so don't tell me about myths until you have seen first hand a savage attack like this one. rospar

11:46am Fri 14 Feb 14

mollyanna says...

The Point that you all seem to miss is
Until these dogs are destroyed owners held responsible
Which one of us is going to be next????
Your kids are off school this week people are going to start coming here on holiday soon
You can't say stay away from the beach ! the dogs need to be walked you could meet them in the street. ,town ,park anywhere around weymouth, !!!!?
And don't forget their owners have zero control of their dogs
Something must be done now
The Point that you all seem to miss is Until these dogs are destroyed owners held responsible Which one of us is going to be next???? Your kids are off school this week people are going to start coming here on holiday soon You can't say stay away from the beach ! the dogs need to be walked you could meet them in the street. ,town ,park anywhere around weymouth, !!!!? And don't forget their owners have zero control of their dogs Something must be done now mollyanna

12:36pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Frank F says...

Simply have a leash law as in the USA where all dogs have to be on a lead when in public places. Not detrimental to the dog it just means that owners who cant be bothered to walk their dogs cannot simply let them run around as and when they like with no control over them. I'm afraid if you have two legs and a dog then simply walk it on a lead with you that is what they enjoy doing after all. They do not NEED to run around practicing their natural dog instincts they are domesticated by humans and therefore we need to control them. By all means let them run loose on private land if you have to but a dog doesn't NEED to run loose to enjoy a good walk with its owner.
Keep dogs on leads at all times in public and lots of these issues will simply not happen.
Simply have a leash law as in the USA where all dogs have to be on a lead when in public places. Not detrimental to the dog it just means that owners who cant be bothered to walk their dogs cannot simply let them run around as and when they like with no control over them. I'm afraid if you have two legs and a dog then simply walk it on a lead with you that is what they enjoy doing after all. They do not NEED to run around practicing their natural dog instincts they are domesticated by humans and therefore we need to control them. By all means let them run loose on private land if you have to but a dog doesn't NEED to run loose to enjoy a good walk with its owner. Keep dogs on leads at all times in public and lots of these issues will simply not happen. Frank F

1:22pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

If they proposed a law requiring ALL domestic dogs, everywhere on the planet, to be sterilized,. then I'd be extremely disappointed if I failed to get my signature supporting the motion first on the form !! What sheer bliss a dog-free planet would be - no violent rows with ignorant, selfish and unimaginative owners who think the world should pander to THEIR perverse whims and life-choices !! No more terrorising of citizenry or Wildlife, no more convoys of brown, sausage-shaped items strung out along footpaths, beaches or Rodwell Trails (Or, possibly even worse, since it's un-pickuppable, those deposits of yellow-grey dog-porridge !!)
Now, before anyone starts screaming 'dog-hater' at me, let me assure you I have no problem with PROPER dogs - indeed I have no idea how many petishes I've signed against obama's Wolf-murder in the usa, and I'd look favorably on reintroduction of Wolves into UK - but let's have the Lynx back first, eh ?? My problem is with GM dogs, which are the cause of all our current problems....
If they proposed a law requiring ALL domestic dogs, everywhere on the planet, to be sterilized,. then I'd be extremely disappointed if I failed to get my signature supporting the motion first on the form !! What sheer bliss a dog-free planet would be - no violent rows with ignorant, selfish and unimaginative owners who think the world should pander to THEIR perverse whims and life-choices !! No more terrorising of citizenry or Wildlife, no more convoys of brown, sausage-shaped items strung out along footpaths, beaches or Rodwell Trails (Or, possibly even worse, since it's un-pickuppable, those deposits of yellow-grey dog-porridge !!) Now, before anyone starts screaming 'dog-hater' at me, let me assure you I have no problem with PROPER dogs - indeed I have no idea how many petishes I've signed against obama's Wolf-murder in the usa, and I'd look favorably on reintroduction of Wolves into UK - but let's have the Lynx back first, eh ?? My problem is with GM dogs, which are the cause of all our current problems.... Harpya Orkinus

1:32pm Fri 14 Feb 14

IDONTKNOWIFITISTRRUE says...

Harpya Orkinus
Could you include 'Lycra Louts' in the sterilisation process?
I think that lots of people would then be happy (:o))
Harpya Orkinus Could you include 'Lycra Louts' in the sterilisation process? I think that lots of people would then be happy (:o)) IDONTKNOWIFITISTRRUE

1:35pm Fri 14 Feb 14

VodkaKick says...

Have reported this man & his charges to the Police at 7.30am this morning after seeing this article & having been subject to a similar attack in March last year . . . . . . . . . . . will be in touch - still waiting!!

Reported it to Council Dog Warden at time . . . . . . . will be in touch - still waiting!!

Bad dogs or bad dog OWNERS???

Dangerous dogs perhaps.

Learnt my lesson in March last year & avoid him like the plague now. Easy to do IF you have experienced him before with his 'pack'.

His dogs "were only playing, Lady. Calm down" with my 6 month old puppy, whilst pinned to the ground with their jaw locked around her neck - what was I getting so worked up about?!

Will never forget the image of the top of his underpants hanging out the top of his jeans whilst he ran towards the clock to put distance between me and my histerics. I clearly upset him with my shouting!!

Beware he also walks the Nothe & have also seen him on the Ham so he doesn't hide away. Happy to randomly spread the love of his playful dogs, obviously!
Have reported this man & his charges to the Police at 7.30am this morning after seeing this article & having been subject to a similar attack in March last year . . . . . . . . . . . will be in touch - still waiting!! Reported it to Council Dog Warden at time . . . . . . . will be in touch - still waiting!! Bad dogs or bad dog OWNERS??? Dangerous dogs perhaps. Learnt my lesson in March last year & avoid him like the plague now. Easy to do IF you have experienced him before with his 'pack'. His dogs "were only playing, Lady. Calm down" with my 6 month old puppy, whilst pinned to the ground with their jaw locked around her neck - what was I getting so worked up about?! Will never forget the image of the top of his underpants hanging out the top of his jeans whilst he ran towards the clock to put distance between me and my histerics. I clearly upset him with my shouting!! Beware he also walks the Nothe & have also seen him on the Ham so he doesn't hide away. Happy to randomly spread the love of his playful dogs, obviously! VodkaKick

1:46pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

I'll repeat what I said to Ian Bruce's receptionist at his Park District Tory HQ many years ago: ~There is NO excuse for dogs, developers, drug-dealers, tories, christians or child-molesters !!~
As for the perp referred to above, (doubtless a social housing tenant giving all the decent ones a bad image !!) with his murderous pack of fiends - could I suggest people carry a pocket-camera with decent, clear zoom lens, and photograph this wingnut for the Police ??
I'll repeat what I said to Ian Bruce's receptionist at his Park District Tory HQ many years ago: ~There is NO excuse for dogs, developers, drug-dealers, tories, christians or child-molesters !!~ As for the perp referred to above, (doubtless a social housing tenant giving all the decent ones a bad image !!) with his murderous pack of fiends - could I suggest people carry a pocket-camera with decent, clear zoom lens, and photograph this wingnut for the Police ?? Harpya Orkinus

1:53pm Fri 14 Feb 14

bollywood says...

I love dogs but if there is one thing I hate is the owner who says it won't hurt its friendly when their dog jumps up at me and other dogs around and does not come to the owner when called. There are far too many out of control owners of dogs in the area. The dogs should have the common sense to put their owners on leads in public places to prevent events like this. Come on council make the owners have dogs on leads in all public places.
I love dogs but if there is one thing I hate is the owner who says it won't hurt its friendly when their dog jumps up at me and other dogs around and does not come to the owner when called. There are far too many out of control owners of dogs in the area. The dogs should have the common sense to put their owners on leads in public places to prevent events like this. Come on council make the owners have dogs on leads in all public places. bollywood

2:46pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Auntieloulou says...

Vulpesv wrote:
During the winter why not have a fence put on the beech to show the designated dog area instead of them running all over the beech? Also have new signs with rules eg all dogs must wear muzzles and no unsupervised children behold this point.. Or use the ribbon scheme to show if a dogs stressed, on heat, does not like other dogs. The dog owners need to be able to enjoy the beech, but I agree there needs to be some control, Fingers crossed this was a one off. Though. All dogs can bite and attack not just Staffies.
It sounds like this is the same chap we had a run in with up the Nothe last Easter. His pack attacked another Staffy whilst they were on their leads. Because there were three dogs and only one quite weedy owner, they simply dragged him over to their prey so keeping the dogs on the leads doesn't seem to be the answer either!! I would like to piont out that the Staffy they attacked was minding it's own business, was fully under control by it's owner (a young lad wearing a hoody no less!) and it was scared stiff so you can't blame the breed.
We too have seen this gentleman (and I use the phrase loosely!), walking the Rodwell trail as well as the Marsh, so beware (and we have reported him!) He rotates his "walks" to different times and places to avoid people who his pack have previously attacked so what is the point of banning the dogs from the beach, when people like this just take them somewhere else to cause misery. The crux of the matter is badly socialised dogs, with an owner who doesn't care or have any control over them. The same could be said of the authorities who don't seem to care either!
This chap and his dogs are a total pest so Police/ Dog warden, do what you're paid to do and deal with him before he does attack a child and I and all the below "quotees" say, I told you so!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Vulpesv[/bold] wrote: During the winter why not have a fence put on the beech to show the designated dog area instead of them running all over the beech? Also have new signs with rules eg all dogs must wear muzzles and no unsupervised children behold this point.. Or use the ribbon scheme to show if a dogs stressed, on heat, does not like other dogs. The dog owners need to be able to enjoy the beech, but I agree there needs to be some control, Fingers crossed this was a one off. Though. All dogs can bite and attack not just Staffies.[/p][/quote]It sounds like this is the same chap we had a run in with up the Nothe last Easter. His pack attacked another Staffy whilst they were on their leads. Because there were three dogs and only one quite weedy owner, they simply dragged him over to their prey so keeping the dogs on the leads doesn't seem to be the answer either!! I would like to piont out that the Staffy they attacked was minding it's own business, was fully under control by it's owner (a young lad wearing a hoody no less!) and it was scared stiff so you can't blame the breed. We too have seen this gentleman (and I use the phrase loosely!), walking the Rodwell trail as well as the Marsh, so beware (and we have reported him!) He rotates his "walks" to different times and places to avoid people who his pack have previously attacked so what is the point of banning the dogs from the beach, when people like this just take them somewhere else to cause misery. The crux of the matter is badly socialised dogs, with an owner who doesn't care or have any control over them. The same could be said of the authorities who don't seem to care either! This chap and his dogs are a total pest so Police/ Dog warden, do what you're paid to do and deal with him before he does attack a child and I and all the below "quotees" say, I told you so!!!! Auntieloulou

3:10pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Witch Hazel says...

More importantly... does anyone know how this poor man is and his dog... I sincerely hope they both get well soon... I also think ALL DOGS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ANY BEACHES WHAT EVER TIME OF YEAR IT IS... why was these dogs not on a lead for goodness sake... makes me so angry... they could have killed this gents dog... I do hope they are both getting on OK...
More importantly... does anyone know how this poor man is and his dog... I sincerely hope they both get well soon... I also think ALL DOGS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ANY BEACHES WHAT EVER TIME OF YEAR IT IS... why was these dogs not on a lead for goodness sake... makes me so angry... they could have killed this gents dog... I do hope they are both getting on OK... Witch Hazel

3:46pm Fri 14 Feb 14

VodkaKick says...

I had the forethought to take a photo of this chap & his dogs at the time of my 'attack' & duly forwarded it to the Dog Warden. Still waiting!
Told the police this morning I STILL HAVE the photo. Still waiting!

Some poor sole will take matters into thier own hands in time and attack the bad owner & get a hefty fine or prison sentence & be spread all over the front of the Echo.!!!!!!!

You are right Witch Hazel - here's hoping the poor fellow & dog who were attacked make a full and speedy recovery (& have insurance to cover the vets bills.) This will not matter in the short term, as the health of the animal is always the most important issue & the money will be raised somehow, but we can all ill-afford costly medical bills.
I had the forethought to take a photo of this chap & his dogs at the time of my 'attack' & duly forwarded it to the Dog Warden. Still waiting! Told the police this morning I STILL HAVE the photo. Still waiting! Some poor sole will take matters into thier own hands in time and attack the bad owner & get a hefty fine or prison sentence & be spread all over the front of the Echo.!!!!!!! You are right Witch Hazel - here's hoping the poor fellow & dog who were attacked make a full and speedy recovery (& have insurance to cover the vets bills.) This will not matter in the short term, as the health of the animal is always the most important issue & the money will be raised somehow, but we can all ill-afford costly medical bills. VodkaKick

3:59pm Fri 14 Feb 14

average_kinda_guy says...

mollyanna wrote:
The Point that you all seem to miss is
Until these dogs are destroyed owners held responsible
Which one of us is going to be next????
Your kids are off school this week people are going to start coming here on holiday soon
You can't say stay away from the beach ! the dogs need to be walked you could meet them in the street. ,town ,park anywhere around weymouth, !!!!?
And don't forget their owners have zero control of their dogs
Something must be done now
It is truly terrible that this attack has happened, something does need to be done. I agree entirely with your sentiment, once I had managed to decipher it. Why the need for so many !!!!!!!! ??????? and then little or no other punctuation. You have a spell-checker and grammar checker on your PC. There is no need for our English language to suffer as well!
[quote][p][bold]mollyanna[/bold] wrote: The Point that you all seem to miss is Until these dogs are destroyed owners held responsible Which one of us is going to be next???? Your kids are off school this week people are going to start coming here on holiday soon You can't say stay away from the beach ! the dogs need to be walked you could meet them in the street. ,town ,park anywhere around weymouth, !!!!? And don't forget their owners have zero control of their dogs Something must be done now[/p][/quote]It is truly terrible that this attack has happened, something does need to be done. I agree entirely with your sentiment, once I had managed to decipher it. Why the need for so many !!!!!!!! ??????? and then little or no other punctuation. You have a spell-checker and grammar checker on your PC. There is no need for our English language to suffer as well! average_kinda_guy

4:25pm Fri 14 Feb 14

David_divenghy2 says...

Witch Hazel wrote:
More importantly... does anyone know how this poor man is and his dog... I sincerely hope they both get well soon... I also think ALL DOGS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ANY BEACHES WHAT EVER TIME OF YEAR IT IS... why was these dogs not on a lead for goodness sake... makes me so angry... they could have killed this gents dog... I do hope they are both getting on OK...
Bring back licensing and mandatory public liability insurance, plus criminal liability.
[quote][p][bold]Witch Hazel[/bold] wrote: More importantly... does anyone know how this poor man is and his dog... I sincerely hope they both get well soon... I also think ALL DOGS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ANY BEACHES WHAT EVER TIME OF YEAR IT IS... why was these dogs not on a lead for goodness sake... makes me so angry... they could have killed this gents dog... I do hope they are both getting on OK...[/p][/quote]Bring back licensing and mandatory public liability insurance, plus criminal liability. David_divenghy2

4:28pm Fri 14 Feb 14

rara1971 says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs.
'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself.
The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...
do you actually know a staffordshire bull terrier i take it you dont pure ignorance of the breed, i myself have a staffy , and it is all about how they are brought up , as is with any dog breed , and actually his best friends are a miniture jack russell and a teacup type , he is a complete pussycat with them as he and millions of his breed are, also the same with children, ban them you say !!!! should ban the rubbish owners , i do not have him because i want to look tough you ignoramus i have him because he is our pet a member of our family, and i rescued him from a ignorant idiot. he is a very loving very loyal dog , you dont care to mention in youre rant about the other dogs that have attacked ie the westie a couple of years ago that nearly ripped a childs face of at its grandmothers though do you ? this was a terrrible incident that happend to this man and his poor dog, and to the man involved that hepled to separate (he is also my friend by the way) but not all staffy owners are as ignorant as the women who stupidly had these four dogs off the lead and had no clue what to do in a situation like that , the dogs should not have been out in a four pack like that anyway off the lead in the first place , please think long and hard next time before you make judgement and do not tar all staffy owners with the same brush
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs. 'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself. The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...[/p][/quote]do you actually know a staffordshire bull terrier i take it you dont pure ignorance of the breed, i myself have a staffy , and it is all about how they are brought up , as is with any dog breed , and actually his best friends are a miniture jack russell and a teacup type , he is a complete pussycat with them as he and millions of his breed are, also the same with children, ban them you say !!!! should ban the rubbish owners , i do not have him because i want to look tough you ignoramus i have him because he is our pet a member of our family, and i rescued him from a ignorant idiot. he is a very loving very loyal dog , you dont care to mention in youre rant about the other dogs that have attacked ie the westie a couple of years ago that nearly ripped a childs face of at its grandmothers though do you ? this was a terrrible incident that happend to this man and his poor dog, and to the man involved that hepled to separate (he is also my friend by the way) but not all staffy owners are as ignorant as the women who stupidly had these four dogs off the lead and had no clue what to do in a situation like that , the dogs should not have been out in a four pack like that anyway off the lead in the first place , please think long and hard next time before you make judgement and do not tar all staffy owners with the same brush rara1971

4:46pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Get a grip says...

Rara1971

Here are a few full stops for you to use when you use next time.


................


Try them they are free
Rara1971 Here are a few full stops for you to use when you use next time. ................ Try them they are free Get a grip

5:12pm Fri 14 Feb 14

babaswim says...

If there was a type of car that repeatedly caused injury and death, they would ban it. Now is the time to ban this type of dangerous breed before more people / dogs are injured or killed
If there was a type of car that repeatedly caused injury and death, they would ban it. Now is the time to ban this type of dangerous breed before more people / dogs are injured or killed babaswim

5:55pm Fri 14 Feb 14

cosmick says...

More STAFFIE type dogs in rescue kennels than any other breed. More STAFFIE type dogs put to sleep by kennels than any other breed. ALTHOUGH this type of pure breed /cross breed can make a nice pet the people who own them for the wrong reasons have spoilt the breed. A lot of gang members use them as wepons. i would ban the breeding of them now.
More STAFFIE type dogs in rescue kennels than any other breed. More STAFFIE type dogs put to sleep by kennels than any other breed. ALTHOUGH this type of pure breed /cross breed can make a nice pet the people who own them for the wrong reasons have spoilt the breed. A lot of gang members use them as wepons. i would ban the breeding of them now. cosmick

6:20pm Fri 14 Feb 14

MrTomSmith says...

I was walking up the beach a couple weekends ago with my grandson age 3, and he was quite intimidated by the Dogs about 4 times. They would run but, luckily these Dogs were fine they would either go back if called, or have a quick sniff and go away. BUT WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO WATCH EVERY SINGLE DOG JUST INCASE HE KNOCKS MY GRANDSON OVER, OR OBVIOUSLY THING GET OUT OF HAND, IF HE WAS TO BECOME FRIGHTENED WHY:?
I am sick to death of the dogs on Weymouth beach, most **** everywhere, and if we are lucky its picked up, do that get all? Well we will never know. I saw one the day completely ignore it. Great..
Right, before we go on I actually like dogs, but there is plenty of other places to walk them than on the best beach around. WHY OH WHY is this being allowed. I don;'t care that I will get some thumbs down, WALKING DOGS ON THE BEST PART OF THE BEACH IN WEYMOUTH IS STUPID. It drives people away and, can anyone give me PLUS POINT? There is none. We pay our council tax to have the beach looked after, we are lucky we have a great beach. It is being destroyed. Come on walk down there on a Sunday morning, DOGS EVERYWHERE. Its a disgrace and they should be banned, completely. 100% GET THEM OFF OUR BEST BEACH.
I was walking up the beach a couple weekends ago with my grandson age 3, and he was quite intimidated by the Dogs about 4 times. They would run but, luckily these Dogs were fine they would either go back if called, or have a quick sniff and go away. BUT WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO WATCH EVERY SINGLE DOG JUST INCASE HE KNOCKS MY GRANDSON OVER, OR OBVIOUSLY THING GET OUT OF HAND, IF HE WAS TO BECOME FRIGHTENED WHY:? I am sick to death of the dogs on Weymouth beach, most **** everywhere, and if we are lucky its picked up, do that get all? Well we will never know. I saw one the day completely ignore it. Great.. Right, before we go on I actually like dogs, but there is plenty of other places to walk them than on the best beach around. WHY OH WHY is this being allowed. I don;'t care that I will get some thumbs down, WALKING DOGS ON THE BEST PART OF THE BEACH IN WEYMOUTH IS STUPID. It drives people away and, can anyone give me PLUS POINT? There is none. We pay our council tax to have the beach looked after, we are lucky we have a great beach. It is being destroyed. Come on walk down there on a Sunday morning, DOGS EVERYWHERE. Its a disgrace and they should be banned, completely. 100% GET THEM OFF OUR BEST BEACH. MrTomSmith

6:20pm Fri 14 Feb 14

MrTomSmith says...

I was walking up the beach a couple weekends ago with my grandson age 3, and he was quite intimidated by the Dogs about 4 times. They would run but, luckily these Dogs were fine they would either go back if called, or have a quick sniff and go away. BUT WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO WATCH EVERY SINGLE DOG JUST INCASE HE KNOCKS MY GRANDSON OVER, OR OBVIOUSLY THING GET OUT OF HAND, IF HE WAS TO BECOME FRIGHTENED WHY:?
I am sick to death of the dogs on Weymouth beach, most **** everywhere, and if we are lucky its picked up, do that get all? Well we will never know. I saw one the day completely ignore it. Great..
Right, before we go on I actually like dogs, but there is plenty of other places to walk them than on the best beach around. WHY OH WHY is this being allowed. I don;'t care that I will get some thumbs down, WALKING DOGS ON THE BEST PART OF THE BEACH IN WEYMOUTH IS STUPID. It drives people away and, can anyone give me PLUS POINT? There is none. We pay our council tax to have the beach looked after, we are lucky we have a great beach. It is being destroyed. Come on walk down there on a Sunday morning, DOGS EVERYWHERE. Its a disgrace and they should be banned, completely. 100% GET THEM OFF OUR BEST BEACH.
I was walking up the beach a couple weekends ago with my grandson age 3, and he was quite intimidated by the Dogs about 4 times. They would run but, luckily these Dogs were fine they would either go back if called, or have a quick sniff and go away. BUT WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO WATCH EVERY SINGLE DOG JUST INCASE HE KNOCKS MY GRANDSON OVER, OR OBVIOUSLY THING GET OUT OF HAND, IF HE WAS TO BECOME FRIGHTENED WHY:? I am sick to death of the dogs on Weymouth beach, most **** everywhere, and if we are lucky its picked up, do that get all? Well we will never know. I saw one the day completely ignore it. Great.. Right, before we go on I actually like dogs, but there is plenty of other places to walk them than on the best beach around. WHY OH WHY is this being allowed. I don;'t care that I will get some thumbs down, WALKING DOGS ON THE BEST PART OF THE BEACH IN WEYMOUTH IS STUPID. It drives people away and, can anyone give me PLUS POINT? There is none. We pay our council tax to have the beach looked after, we are lucky we have a great beach. It is being destroyed. Come on walk down there on a Sunday morning, DOGS EVERYWHERE. Its a disgrace and they should be banned, completely. 100% GET THEM OFF OUR BEST BEACH. MrTomSmith

6:20pm Fri 14 Feb 14

MrTomSmith says...

I was walking up the beach a couple weekends ago with my grandson age 3, and he was quite intimidated by the Dogs about 4 times. They would run but, luckily these Dogs were fine they would either go back if called, or have a quick sniff and go away. BUT WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO WATCH EVERY SINGLE DOG JUST INCASE HE KNOCKS MY GRANDSON OVER, OR OBVIOUSLY THING GET OUT OF HAND, IF HE WAS TO BECOME FRIGHTENED WHY:?
I am sick to death of the dogs on Weymouth beach, most **** everywhere, and if we are lucky its picked up, do that get all? Well we will never know. I saw one the day completely ignore it. Great..
Right, before we go on I actually like dogs, but there is plenty of other places to walk them than on the best beach around. WHY OH WHY is this being allowed. I don;'t care that I will get some thumbs down, WALKING DOGS ON THE BEST PART OF THE BEACH IN WEYMOUTH IS STUPID. It drives people away and, can anyone give me PLUS POINT? There is none. We pay our council tax to have the beach looked after, we are lucky we have a great beach. It is being destroyed. Come on walk down there on a Sunday morning, DOGS EVERYWHERE. Its a disgrace and they should be banned, completely. 100% GET THEM OFF OUR BEST BEACH.
I was walking up the beach a couple weekends ago with my grandson age 3, and he was quite intimidated by the Dogs about 4 times. They would run but, luckily these Dogs were fine they would either go back if called, or have a quick sniff and go away. BUT WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO WATCH EVERY SINGLE DOG JUST INCASE HE KNOCKS MY GRANDSON OVER, OR OBVIOUSLY THING GET OUT OF HAND, IF HE WAS TO BECOME FRIGHTENED WHY:? I am sick to death of the dogs on Weymouth beach, most **** everywhere, and if we are lucky its picked up, do that get all? Well we will never know. I saw one the day completely ignore it. Great.. Right, before we go on I actually like dogs, but there is plenty of other places to walk them than on the best beach around. WHY OH WHY is this being allowed. I don;'t care that I will get some thumbs down, WALKING DOGS ON THE BEST PART OF THE BEACH IN WEYMOUTH IS STUPID. It drives people away and, can anyone give me PLUS POINT? There is none. We pay our council tax to have the beach looked after, we are lucky we have a great beach. It is being destroyed. Come on walk down there on a Sunday morning, DOGS EVERYWHERE. Its a disgrace and they should be banned, completely. 100% GET THEM OFF OUR BEST BEACH. MrTomSmith

6:22pm Fri 14 Feb 14

MrTomSmith says...

Oh good it was posted twice
Oh good it was posted twice MrTomSmith

6:32pm Fri 14 Feb 14

cosmick says...

Use your fingers it was three times.
Use your fingers it was three times. cosmick

7:11pm Fri 14 Feb 14

JACKC says...

....and there will be even more dogs on the beach when the rest of the green spaces are built upon. The Dog Warden is totally useless, never see him actively doing anything - actually never see him full stop except in his van driving past occasionally. If you have photos of this moron (giving decent, responsible dog owners a bad name) send it to the echo and maybe they'll publish it? Then when he is named and shamed, perhaps his victims can send him their vet bills! Don't bank on any offer of recompense though. These dogs are clearly a more serious accident waiting to happen and if the police do not take action against him then they are as responsible. I don't take my dogs on the beach for the very reason of reports of dog attacks (that was years ago too) but the more reports of this is just giving that stupid councillor more ammo to get responsible dog owners banned from exercising their dogs on the beach.
....and there will be even more dogs on the beach when the rest of the green spaces are built upon. The Dog Warden is totally useless, never see him actively doing anything - actually never see him full stop except in his van driving past occasionally. If you have photos of this moron (giving decent, responsible dog owners a bad name) send it to the echo and maybe they'll publish it? Then when he is named and shamed, perhaps his victims can send him their vet bills! Don't bank on any offer of recompense though. These dogs are clearly a more serious accident waiting to happen and if the police do not take action against him then they are as responsible. I don't take my dogs on the beach for the very reason of reports of dog attacks (that was years ago too) but the more reports of this is just giving that stupid councillor more ammo to get responsible dog owners banned from exercising their dogs on the beach. JACKC

7:14pm Fri 14 Feb 14

peskykat says...

Judging by all these comments isn't it about time the Dog Warden got off his backside and started patrolling the Beach - isn't that part of his job ?, the Police can't be bothered to patrol the Esplanade . I am not sorry when i say that i don't like Staffys and i always avoid them and it certainly can't be much fun for a small child or a small dog bearing down them. At the end of the day any dog can be unpredictable and attack another dog or child it is in their nature being related to Wolves, however there can be responsible and irresponsible owners and they are the ones who should be sorted out as i get tired of Staffy , etc owners defending their pet,
i personally don't think a town is suitable for such dogs they need plenty of space to runabout eg countryside, there are dogs in flats on my street and it cannot be much fun to be coop up in a small area and only taken to the beach for a quick runaround - they need a garden as well. That poor child just recently was killed by an illegal dog breed - sicken me badly when i heard that and i fail to understand why any responsible dog owner would cimbine a child and such a dog in the same household.
Judging by all these comments isn't it about time the Dog Warden got off his backside and started patrolling the Beach - isn't that part of his job ?, the Police can't be bothered to patrol the Esplanade . I am not sorry when i say that i don't like Staffys and i always avoid them and it certainly can't be much fun for a small child or a small dog bearing down them. At the end of the day any dog can be unpredictable and attack another dog or child it is in their nature being related to Wolves, however there can be responsible and irresponsible owners and they are the ones who should be sorted out as i get tired of Staffy , etc owners defending their pet, i personally don't think a town is suitable for such dogs they need plenty of space to runabout eg countryside, there are dogs in flats on my street and it cannot be much fun to be coop up in a small area and only taken to the beach for a quick runaround - they need a garden as well. That poor child just recently was killed by an illegal dog breed - sicken me badly when i heard that and i fail to understand why any responsible dog owner would cimbine a child and such a dog in the same household. peskykat

7:25pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

ALL dogs should be on their owner's property - they should NOT be inflicted on Wildlife or people in the countryside or in towns or on beaches (HOWEVER remote or otherwise said beaches may be !!) Some people even take them on Nature Reserves, including those of our own DWT and RSPB, which I am told would be illegal in California - so why is this odious practice not illegal HERE ??!! You don't own enough land ?? Fine - don't have dogs !!
ALL dogs should be on their owner's property - they should NOT be inflicted on Wildlife or people in the countryside or in towns or on beaches (HOWEVER remote or otherwise said beaches may be !!) Some people even take them on Nature Reserves, including those of our own DWT and RSPB, which I am told would be illegal in California - so why is this odious practice not illegal HERE ??!! You don't own enough land ?? Fine - don't have dogs !! Harpya Orkinus

7:30pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Jim4512 says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
If they proposed a law requiring ALL domestic dogs, everywhere on the planet, to be sterilized,. then I'd be extremely disappointed if I failed to get my signature supporting the motion first on the form !! What sheer bliss a dog-free planet would be - no violent rows with ignorant, selfish and unimaginative owners who think the world should pander to THEIR perverse whims and life-choices !! No more terrorising of citizenry or Wildlife, no more convoys of brown, sausage-shaped items strung out along footpaths, beaches or Rodwell Trails (Or, possibly even worse, since it's un-pickuppable, those deposits of yellow-grey dog-porridge !!)
Now, before anyone starts screaming 'dog-hater' at me, let me assure you I have no problem with PROPER dogs - indeed I have no idea how many petishes I've signed against obama's Wolf-murder in the usa, and I'd look favorably on reintroduction of Wolves into UK - but let's have the Lynx back first, eh ?? My problem is with GM dogs, which are the cause of all our current problems....
Maybe we should sterilize all humans too as we have done such a great job of destroying the plant. Or maybe just you!
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: If they proposed a law requiring ALL domestic dogs, everywhere on the planet, to be sterilized,. then I'd be extremely disappointed if I failed to get my signature supporting the motion first on the form !! What sheer bliss a dog-free planet would be - no violent rows with ignorant, selfish and unimaginative owners who think the world should pander to THEIR perverse whims and life-choices !! No more terrorising of citizenry or Wildlife, no more convoys of brown, sausage-shaped items strung out along footpaths, beaches or Rodwell Trails (Or, possibly even worse, since it's un-pickuppable, those deposits of yellow-grey dog-porridge !!) Now, before anyone starts screaming 'dog-hater' at me, let me assure you I have no problem with PROPER dogs - indeed I have no idea how many petishes I've signed against obama's Wolf-murder in the usa, and I'd look favorably on reintroduction of Wolves into UK - but let's have the Lynx back first, eh ?? My problem is with GM dogs, which are the cause of all our current problems....[/p][/quote]Maybe we should sterilize all humans too as we have done such a great job of destroying the plant. Or maybe just you! Jim4512

8:40pm Fri 14 Feb 14

connie68 says...

Borough councillor and deputy mayor of Weymouth and Portland Kate Wheller said the incident illustrates why she put forward a notice of motion to ban dogs from the beach in the summer.
It is obvious that this particular individual and his 'pack' not only frequent the beach but the majority of open spaces in and around the area, banning dogs on the beach clearly would not make a blind bit of difference regarding this situation! This does not illustrate any needs whatsoever.
It is clear that even a huge fine for not picking up after your dog doesn't work and nor would this, the local dog warden needs to be doing his job, I've Never seen him walking around only sat in his car in a car park.
It would be a sad loss to lose the beach to exercise my dog though not the only place as my dog loves it and yes I am also a responsible dog poo picker upper :-)).
I hope the gentleman and his dog get better soon and to the utter disgrace of a so called man i hope you are caught and prosecuted.
Borough councillor and deputy mayor of Weymouth and Portland Kate Wheller said the incident illustrates why she put forward a notice of motion to ban dogs from the beach in the summer. It is obvious that this particular individual and his 'pack' not only frequent the beach but the majority of open spaces in and around the area, banning dogs on the beach clearly would not make a blind bit of difference regarding this situation! This does not illustrate any needs whatsoever. It is clear that even a huge fine for not picking up after your dog doesn't work and nor would this, the local dog warden needs to be doing his job, I've Never seen him walking around only sat in his car in a car park. It would be a sad loss to lose the beach to exercise my dog though not the only place as my dog loves it and yes I am also a responsible dog poo picker upper :-)). I hope the gentleman and his dog get better soon and to the utter disgrace of a so called man i hope you are caught and prosecuted. connie68

8:54pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Jimmytheone says...

At 8.58 this morning i said this would rake over some old ground and for sure it has. If you own the dog you are responsible for it, you carry the can if it misbehaves..If so many people know this man why is nothing being done??
At 8.58 this morning i said this would rake over some old ground and for sure it has. If you own the dog you are responsible for it, you carry the can if it misbehaves..If so many people know this man why is nothing being done?? Jimmytheone

9:05pm Fri 14 Feb 14

chickfromhell says...

Reading this article thru to he end the first part sounds as though it is yet another of the Echo's over exaggerated stories just to put something in the paper. Let's find the True result fist before we start story telling!
I am a Staffy owner and I don't want to look hard or have a problem - I took mine on as a rescue to prove a point that it is not the Dog that needs banning but the inbred owners. My dog runs freely on the beach each day and it gets on with all animals and humans of all ages!! In fact people often stare and laugh as he plays football and is so funny...............
.......
Reading this article thru to he end the first part sounds as though it is yet another of the Echo's over exaggerated stories just to put something in the paper. Let's find the True result fist before we start story telling! I am a Staffy owner and I don't want to look hard or have a problem - I took mine on as a rescue to prove a point that it is not the Dog that needs banning but the inbred owners. My dog runs freely on the beach each day and it gets on with all animals and humans of all ages!! In fact people often stare and laugh as he plays football and is so funny............... ....... chickfromhell

9:53pm Fri 14 Feb 14

rara1971 says...

chickfromhell wrote:
Reading this article thru to he end the first part sounds as though it is yet another of the Echo's over exaggerated stories just to put something in the paper. Let's find the True result fist before we start story telling!
I am a Staffy owner and I don't want to look hard or have a problem - I took mine on as a rescue to prove a point that it is not the Dog that needs banning but the inbred owners. My dog runs freely on the beach each day and it gets on with all animals and humans of all ages!! In fact people often stare and laugh as he plays football and is so funny...............

.......
well said chickfromhell
[quote][p][bold]chickfromhell[/bold] wrote: Reading this article thru to he end the first part sounds as though it is yet another of the Echo's over exaggerated stories just to put something in the paper. Let's find the True result fist before we start story telling! I am a Staffy owner and I don't want to look hard or have a problem - I took mine on as a rescue to prove a point that it is not the Dog that needs banning but the inbred owners. My dog runs freely on the beach each day and it gets on with all animals and humans of all ages!! In fact people often stare and laugh as he plays football and is so funny............... .......[/p][/quote]well said chickfromhell rara1971

10:11pm Fri 14 Feb 14

popsiebabes says...

cosmick wrote:
More STAFFIE type dogs in rescue kennels than any other breed. More STAFFIE type dogs put to sleep by kennels than any other breed. ALTHOUGH this type of pure breed /cross breed can make a nice pet the people who own them for the wrong reasons have spoilt the breed. A lot of gang members use them as wepons. i would ban the breeding of them now.
There should be a systematic destruction of all Staffies
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: More STAFFIE type dogs in rescue kennels than any other breed. More STAFFIE type dogs put to sleep by kennels than any other breed. ALTHOUGH this type of pure breed /cross breed can make a nice pet the people who own them for the wrong reasons have spoilt the breed. A lot of gang members use them as wepons. i would ban the breeding of them now.[/p][/quote]There should be a systematic destruction of all Staffies popsiebabes

10:16pm Fri 14 Feb 14

shuttling says...

I was a staffie owner and my girl wouldn't of hurt a fly BUT she was well trained and under control at all times when out walking. She loved other dogs and people. The problem lies with bad owners who have no control over their dogs not just staffies but all breeds. Dogs should not be off the lead on the beach or other busy areas. If you're dog likes to run off lead take them to a quiet field and let them run.
I was a staffie owner and my girl wouldn't of hurt a fly BUT she was well trained and under control at all times when out walking. She loved other dogs and people. The problem lies with bad owners who have no control over their dogs not just staffies but all breeds. Dogs should not be off the lead on the beach or other busy areas. If you're dog likes to run off lead take them to a quiet field and let them run. shuttling

10:53pm Fri 14 Feb 14

JamesYoung says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
I'll repeat what I said to Ian Bruce's receptionist at his Park District Tory HQ many years ago: ~There is NO excuse for dogs, developers, drug-dealers, tories, christians or child-molesters !!~
As for the perp referred to above, (doubtless a social housing tenant giving all the decent ones a bad image !!) with his murderous pack of fiends - could I suggest people carry a pocket-camera with decent, clear zoom lens, and photograph this wingnut for the Police ??
I'm guessing you don't get out much?
Ironic, really, that you have an issue with dog owners forcing their way of life on you, but see no contradiction in you seeking to force your values on them.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: I'll repeat what I said to Ian Bruce's receptionist at his Park District Tory HQ many years ago: ~There is NO excuse for dogs, developers, drug-dealers, tories, christians or child-molesters !!~ As for the perp referred to above, (doubtless a social housing tenant giving all the decent ones a bad image !!) with his murderous pack of fiends - could I suggest people carry a pocket-camera with decent, clear zoom lens, and photograph this wingnut for the Police ??[/p][/quote]I'm guessing you don't get out much? Ironic, really, that you have an issue with dog owners forcing their way of life on you, but see no contradiction in you seeking to force your values on them. JamesYoung

11:48pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Wykeite says...

I pay my taxes and dogs don't. Ban the horrible, stinking, poo dropping and violent muts from all public places.
Why should people be intimidated by dogs, have to dodge their mess in the street and have a proportion of their taxes go towards the clean-up of this animal?
I believe we ban them or get much tougher on dog owners. The first step in a tough approach would be to: 1) make it a criminal offense to have an unmuzzled dog in public 2) make it a criminal offense to not clean-up after your dog has defecated in a public place 3) make it criminal offense to not have your dog chipped and registered 4) Have your dog on a lead in certain areas (beaches, parks, cycle and footpaths...).
This is tough but I've had enough of stepping in dogs' mess and reading the stories about the 'nice' and 'bad' types of dogs.
I pay my taxes and dogs don't. Ban the horrible, stinking, poo dropping and violent muts from all public places. Why should people be intimidated by dogs, have to dodge their mess in the street and have a proportion of their taxes go towards the clean-up of this animal? I believe we ban them or get much tougher on dog owners. The first step in a tough approach would be to: 1) make it a criminal offense to have an unmuzzled dog in public 2) make it a criminal offense to not clean-up after your dog has defecated in a public place 3) make it criminal offense to not have your dog chipped and registered 4) Have your dog on a lead in certain areas (beaches, parks, cycle and footpaths...). This is tough but I've had enough of stepping in dogs' mess and reading the stories about the 'nice' and 'bad' types of dogs. Wykeite

11:56pm Fri 14 Feb 14

rospar says...

Reading this article thru to he end the first part sounds as though it is yet another of the Echo's over exaggerated stories just to put something in the paper. Let's find the True result fist before we start story telling!
I am a Staffy owner and I don't want to look hard or have a problem - I took mine on as a rescue to prove a point that it is not the Dog that needs banning but the inbred owners. My dog runs freely on the beach each day and it gets on with all animals and humans of all ages!! In fact people often stare and laugh as he plays football and is so funny...............


I will say this once more, this story is not exagerated at all, I was the one who had to strangle the dog to get it to release the poor dog and I assure you that everything said in the paper was as it happened.
Reading this article thru to he end the first part sounds as though it is yet another of the Echo's over exaggerated stories just to put something in the paper. Let's find the True result fist before we start story telling! I am a Staffy owner and I don't want to look hard or have a problem - I took mine on as a rescue to prove a point that it is not the Dog that needs banning but the inbred owners. My dog runs freely on the beach each day and it gets on with all animals and humans of all ages!! In fact people often stare and laugh as he plays football and is so funny............... I will say this once more, this story is not exagerated at all, I was the one who had to strangle the dog to get it to release the poor dog and I assure you that everything said in the paper was as it happened. rospar

7:56am Sat 15 Feb 14

intiindiana says...

VodkaKick wrote:
I had the forethought to take a photo of this chap & his dogs at the time of my 'attack' & duly forwarded it to the Dog Warden. Still waiting!
Told the police this morning I STILL HAVE the photo. Still waiting!

Some poor sole will take matters into thier own hands in time and attack the bad owner & get a hefty fine or prison sentence & be spread all over the front of the Echo.!!!!!!!

You are right Witch Hazel - here's hoping the poor fellow & dog who were attacked make a full and speedy recovery (& have insurance to cover the vets bills.) This will not matter in the short term, as the health of the animal is always the most important issue & the money will be raised somehow, but we can all ill-afford costly medical bills.
If the Police and Dog Warden are doing nothing and you have a photo of the owner, could you let the Echo have a copy of it or post it on Facebook so something can be done about it? If it`s the same owner, according to comments here, his dogs have now attacked three times. About time the authorities did something. Hope the man and his dog are OK.
[quote][p][bold]VodkaKick[/bold] wrote: I had the forethought to take a photo of this chap & his dogs at the time of my 'attack' & duly forwarded it to the Dog Warden. Still waiting! Told the police this morning I STILL HAVE the photo. Still waiting! Some poor sole will take matters into thier own hands in time and attack the bad owner & get a hefty fine or prison sentence & be spread all over the front of the Echo.!!!!!!! You are right Witch Hazel - here's hoping the poor fellow & dog who were attacked make a full and speedy recovery (& have insurance to cover the vets bills.) This will not matter in the short term, as the health of the animal is always the most important issue & the money will be raised somehow, but we can all ill-afford costly medical bills.[/p][/quote]If the Police and Dog Warden are doing nothing and you have a photo of the owner, could you let the Echo have a copy of it or post it on Facebook so something can be done about it? If it`s the same owner, according to comments here, his dogs have now attacked three times. About time the authorities did something. Hope the man and his dog are OK. intiindiana

7:56am Sat 15 Feb 14

myopinionuc says...

I can't use the beach at all in the winter because of the dogs. I have three very small children who absolutely love playing on the beach but I do not feel it is safe when there are so many dogs running wild. I tried it a couple of times and it was very scary, several dogs ran up to my children and would not go back to their owners when called. I'm sure most of the dogs are friendly but dogs can be so unpredictable as we occasionally see on the news when a child is mauled to death.Why can't there be a dog free section in the winter?
I can't use the beach at all in the winter because of the dogs. I have three very small children who absolutely love playing on the beach but I do not feel it is safe when there are so many dogs running wild. I tried it a couple of times and it was very scary, several dogs ran up to my children and would not go back to their owners when called. I'm sure most of the dogs are friendly but dogs can be so unpredictable as we occasionally see on the news when a child is mauled to death.Why can't there be a dog free section in the winter? myopinionuc

8:27am Sat 15 Feb 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

rara1971 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs.
'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself.
The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...
do you actually know a staffordshire bull terrier i take it you dont pure ignorance of the breed, i myself have a staffy , and it is all about how they are brought up , as is with any dog breed , and actually his best friends are a miniture jack russell and a teacup type , he is a complete pussycat with them as he and millions of his breed are, also the same with children, ban them you say !!!! should ban the rubbish owners , i do not have him because i want to look tough you ignoramus i have him because he is our pet a member of our family, and i rescued him from a ignorant idiot. he is a very loving very loyal dog , you dont care to mention in youre rant about the other dogs that have attacked ie the westie a couple of years ago that nearly ripped a childs face of at its grandmothers though do you ? this was a terrrible incident that happend to this man and his poor dog, and to the man involved that hepled to separate (he is also my friend by the way) but not all staffy owners are as ignorant as the women who stupidly had these four dogs off the lead and had no clue what to do in a situation like that , the dogs should not have been out in a four pack like that anyway off the lead in the first place , please think long and hard next time before you make judgement and do not tar all staffy owners with the same brush
What so you must be ok because you rescued a dog from a rescue center.
Get over yourself mate. Your dog is not a member of your family or anyone else's. You have just formed an attachment to an animal that is very dangerous. You need to wake up. You need to understand how many others feel about this, and it is not like you.
You are just another dog owner that thinks it's all ok and it's not. You are not owed anything and my rights as a member of the public that expects to walk on the beach or anywhere else with my kids, or my sensible breed of dog far outweighs yours. I'd be willing to put my self in considerable danger to protect that right. It's what I work hard for - what I pay my taxes for.
My advice to you is to recognise your animal is just that - an animal. Treat it like a human and sooner or later you will be very sorry.
[quote][p][bold]rara1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs. 'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself. The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...[/p][/quote]do you actually know a staffordshire bull terrier i take it you dont pure ignorance of the breed, i myself have a staffy , and it is all about how they are brought up , as is with any dog breed , and actually his best friends are a miniture jack russell and a teacup type , he is a complete pussycat with them as he and millions of his breed are, also the same with children, ban them you say !!!! should ban the rubbish owners , i do not have him because i want to look tough you ignoramus i have him because he is our pet a member of our family, and i rescued him from a ignorant idiot. he is a very loving very loyal dog , you dont care to mention in youre rant about the other dogs that have attacked ie the westie a couple of years ago that nearly ripped a childs face of at its grandmothers though do you ? this was a terrrible incident that happend to this man and his poor dog, and to the man involved that hepled to separate (he is also my friend by the way) but not all staffy owners are as ignorant as the women who stupidly had these four dogs off the lead and had no clue what to do in a situation like that , the dogs should not have been out in a four pack like that anyway off the lead in the first place , please think long and hard next time before you make judgement and do not tar all staffy owners with the same brush[/p][/quote]What so you must be ok because you rescued a dog from a rescue center. Get over yourself mate. Your dog is not a member of your family or anyone else's. You have just formed an attachment to an animal that is very dangerous. You need to wake up. You need to understand how many others feel about this, and it is not like you. You are just another dog owner that thinks it's all ok and it's not. You are not owed anything and my rights as a member of the public that expects to walk on the beach or anywhere else with my kids, or my sensible breed of dog far outweighs yours. I'd be willing to put my self in considerable danger to protect that right. It's what I work hard for - what I pay my taxes for. My advice to you is to recognise your animal is just that - an animal. Treat it like a human and sooner or later you will be very sorry. Parkstreetshufle

11:32am Sat 15 Feb 14

K9 says...

rospar, Well done for getting stuck in, putting yourself at high risk of being bitten. I understand it took a lot of strangling before the dog would release its bite but no dog has a "lock jaw"; all are held shut by muscles, just like humans. The problem is some breeds have been bred to have very strong jaw muscles and a temperament that means they'll grip and shake until death.

Were you tightening the collar with your hands? That can be very hard to do. Ideally a stick under the collar that can be twisted gives high leverage; don't twist too quickly or the collar can break before the dog releases.

Dog handlers have a "breaking stick", a thin piece of wood, that they insert between the jaws and then twist to lever them apart. Only for skilled professionals! You have to wonder if the rest of us need a hammer to hand to crack their skulls!

To any dog owner who has a dog that doesn't come to heel on the first call; your dog is untrained and not fit to be off the lead in a public area. He is not "only playing". Those he is "playing" with do not like an unknown dog jumping up at them, mud on their paws, claws scratching.

To the commenter with the photograph, please circulate it on the social media to get the owner identified.
rospar, Well done for getting stuck in, putting yourself at high risk of being bitten. I understand it took a lot of strangling before the dog would release its bite but no dog has a "lock jaw"; all are held shut by muscles, just like humans. The problem is some breeds have been bred to have very strong jaw muscles and a temperament that means they'll grip and shake until death. Were you tightening the collar with your hands? That can be very hard to do. Ideally a stick under the collar that can be twisted gives high leverage; don't twist too quickly or the collar can break before the dog releases. Dog handlers have a "breaking stick", a thin piece of wood, that they insert between the jaws and then twist to lever them apart. Only for skilled professionals! You have to wonder if the rest of us need a hammer to hand to crack their skulls! To any dog owner who has a dog that doesn't come to heel on the first call; your dog is untrained and not fit to be off the lead in a public area. He is not "only playing". Those he is "playing" with do not like an unknown dog jumping up at them, mud on their paws, claws scratching. To the commenter with the photograph, please circulate it on the social media to get the owner identified. K9

12:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

VodkaKick says...

I am the commenter with photos of my dogs attacker, dogs & owner, but not a member of any social media sites and, I'm afraid, not prepared to join any of the same to post my pictures
Not the most savoury member of the public from memory. I would not like to be subject to him taking matters into his own hands either online or in person were he to get my identity.
I have followed the correct official procedures then and now. The authorities know how and where to contact me for my photos.
Apologies for not wanting to put myself on the front line or take matters into my own hands.
I am the commenter with photos of my dogs attacker, dogs & owner, but not a member of any social media sites and, I'm afraid, not prepared to join any of the same to post my pictures Not the most savoury member of the public from memory. I would not like to be subject to him taking matters into his own hands either online or in person were he to get my identity. I have followed the correct official procedures then and now. The authorities know how and where to contact me for my photos. Apologies for not wanting to put myself on the front line or take matters into my own hands. VodkaKick

1:07pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Grockler says...

Time to get rid of all these breeds of dogs
Time to get rid of all these breeds of dogs Grockler

1:08pm Sat 15 Feb 14

shy talk says...

Nice to see K9 that somebody else knows what they are talking about. Just to add Staffordshire bull terriers have a bite pressure of approximately 200lbs. That is why they can inflict such horrendous injuries. Hope that the owner and dog make a full recovery.
Nice to see K9 that somebody else knows what they are talking about. Just to add Staffordshire bull terriers have a bite pressure of approximately 200lbs. That is why they can inflict such horrendous injuries. Hope that the owner and dog make a full recovery. shy talk

1:22pm Sat 15 Feb 14

PEJ says...

I own a Staffie and walk him on a very strong 26ft lead. This is quite sufficient for a walk and he is a very happy fit and healthy 12 year old dog. The lead coverts to a short lead for busy areas. I am not a hoodie whatever that means but a 68 year old grandmother. In my opinion NO breed of dog should be allowed to roam free especially four of them, it is a well known fact that dogs pack together. In my years I have seen many dogs fight some leaving one or the other injured, all have been allowed to roam free, fortunately none of the dogs I have owned have been involved in a fight and the main reason for this is I have absolute control by keeping them on a lead. I think this should become law.
I own a Staffie and walk him on a very strong 26ft lead. This is quite sufficient for a walk and he is a very happy fit and healthy 12 year old dog. The lead coverts to a short lead for busy areas. I am not a hoodie whatever that means but a 68 year old grandmother. In my opinion NO breed of dog should be allowed to roam free especially four of them, it is a well known fact that dogs pack together. In my years I have seen many dogs fight some leaving one or the other injured, all have been allowed to roam free, fortunately none of the dogs I have owned have been involved in a fight and the main reason for this is I have absolute control by keeping them on a lead. I think this should become law. PEJ

2:09pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Genghis says...

PEJ wrote:
I own a Staffie and walk him on a very strong 26ft lead. This is quite sufficient for a walk and he is a very happy fit and healthy 12 year old dog. The lead coverts to a short lead for busy areas. I am not a hoodie whatever that means but a 68 year old grandmother. In my opinion NO breed of dog should be allowed to roam free especially four of them, it is a well known fact that dogs pack together. In my years I have seen many dogs fight some leaving one or the other injured, all have been allowed to roam free, fortunately none of the dogs I have owned have been involved in a fight and the main reason for this is I have absolute control by keeping them on a lead. I think this should become law.
A 26 foot extendible lead is not a definition of keeping a dog under control. I've seen numerous instances of dogs on this type of lead suddenly run off, dragging the extendible trip cord after them and jumping up at, or entangling, pedestrians, cyclists and other dogs. The owners are then quite a distance away, shouting in a most ineffective way, trying to get their dogs to stop. A well trained dog, on a proper lead, is keeping it under control.
[quote][p][bold]PEJ[/bold] wrote: I own a Staffie and walk him on a very strong 26ft lead. This is quite sufficient for a walk and he is a very happy fit and healthy 12 year old dog. The lead coverts to a short lead for busy areas. I am not a hoodie whatever that means but a 68 year old grandmother. In my opinion NO breed of dog should be allowed to roam free especially four of them, it is a well known fact that dogs pack together. In my years I have seen many dogs fight some leaving one or the other injured, all have been allowed to roam free, fortunately none of the dogs I have owned have been involved in a fight and the main reason for this is I have absolute control by keeping them on a lead. I think this should become law.[/p][/quote]A 26 foot extendible lead is not a definition of keeping a dog under control. I've seen numerous instances of dogs on this type of lead suddenly run off, dragging the extendible trip cord after them and jumping up at, or entangling, pedestrians, cyclists and other dogs. The owners are then quite a distance away, shouting in a most ineffective way, trying to get their dogs to stop. A well trained dog, on a proper lead, is keeping it under control. Genghis

3:20pm Sat 15 Feb 14

PEJ says...

Sorry Genghis you have not read my letter correctly. I stated in busy and built up area's such as the beach or town my dog is kept on a short lead. The 26ft is for open spaces. I agree what you suggest can happen but this is again the stupidity of the owners. All my dogs have been well trained. Never have I tripped a pedestrian or entangled a bike. I seriously believe it should be made law that all dogs should be kept on a lead.
Sorry Genghis you have not read my letter correctly. I stated in busy and built up area's such as the beach or town my dog is kept on a short lead. The 26ft is for open spaces. I agree what you suggest can happen but this is again the stupidity of the owners. All my dogs have been well trained. Never have I tripped a pedestrian or entangled a bike. I seriously believe it should be made law that all dogs should be kept on a lead. PEJ

8:58pm Sun 16 Feb 14

JACKC says...

Vodkakick - send your pictures to the echo by post. Parkstreetshuffle - you are ignorant (in more ways than one).
Vodkakick - send your pictures to the echo by post. Parkstreetshuffle - you are ignorant (in more ways than one). JACKC

6:45am Mon 17 Feb 14

intiindiana says...

Dorset Echo - any updates about the condition of the dog and its owner? Are they OK? Has anyone been arrested yet?
Dorset Echo - any updates about the condition of the dog and its owner? Are they OK? Has anyone been arrested yet? intiindiana

12:10pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Witch Hazel says...

DORSET ECHO: IT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW HOW THE GUY IS AND ALSO HIS POOR DOG... ALSO IF THE PERSON CONCERNED HAS BEEN ARRESTED?

ALOT OF TIMES WE GET A STORY AND DONT GET TO HEAR THE OUTCOME..... PLEASE - WE ALL CARE ABOUT THIS GUY AND HIS DOG.
DORSET ECHO: IT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW HOW THE GUY IS AND ALSO HIS POOR DOG... ALSO IF THE PERSON CONCERNED HAS BEEN ARRESTED? ALOT OF TIMES WE GET A STORY AND DONT GET TO HEAR THE OUTCOME..... PLEASE - WE ALL CARE ABOUT THIS GUY AND HIS DOG. Witch Hazel

3:58pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Mr irate says...

Yesterday on the beach there was far too many dogs running free off their leads. My kids spent the whole time nervously looking over their shoulders waiting the next out of control dog to come to close while they were playing in the sand! At one point a very large dog came too close and I picked up the biggest handful of stones I could find ready to unload as hard as I possibly could if needed. Should I really have to feel this unsafe for my kids on the beach??
Yesterday on the beach there was far too many dogs running free off their leads. My kids spent the whole time nervously looking over their shoulders waiting the next out of control dog to come to close while they were playing in the sand! At one point a very large dog came too close and I picked up the biggest handful of stones I could find ready to unload as hard as I possibly could if needed. Should I really have to feel this unsafe for my kids on the beach?? Mr irate

4:01pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Jim4512 wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
If they proposed a law requiring ALL domestic dogs, everywhere on the planet, to be sterilized,. then I'd be extremely disappointed if I failed to get my signature supporting the motion first on the form !! What sheer bliss a dog-free planet would be - no violent rows with ignorant, selfish and unimaginative owners who think the world should pander to THEIR perverse whims and life-choices !! No more terrorising of citizenry or Wildlife, no more convoys of brown, sausage-shaped items strung out along footpaths, beaches or Rodwell Trails (Or, possibly even worse, since it's un-pickuppable, those deposits of yellow-grey dog-porridge !!)
Now, before anyone starts screaming 'dog-hater' at me, let me assure you I have no problem with PROPER dogs - indeed I have no idea how many petishes I've signed against obama's Wolf-murder in the usa, and I'd look favorably on reintroduction of Wolves into UK - but let's have the Lynx back first, eh ?? My problem is with GM dogs, which are the cause of all our current problems....
Maybe we should sterilize all humans too as we have done such a great job of destroying the plant. Or maybe just you!
I've already been done, amigo !! :D :D
[quote][p][bold]Jim4512[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: If they proposed a law requiring ALL domestic dogs, everywhere on the planet, to be sterilized,. then I'd be extremely disappointed if I failed to get my signature supporting the motion first on the form !! What sheer bliss a dog-free planet would be - no violent rows with ignorant, selfish and unimaginative owners who think the world should pander to THEIR perverse whims and life-choices !! No more terrorising of citizenry or Wildlife, no more convoys of brown, sausage-shaped items strung out along footpaths, beaches or Rodwell Trails (Or, possibly even worse, since it's un-pickuppable, those deposits of yellow-grey dog-porridge !!) Now, before anyone starts screaming 'dog-hater' at me, let me assure you I have no problem with PROPER dogs - indeed I have no idea how many petishes I've signed against obama's Wolf-murder in the usa, and I'd look favorably on reintroduction of Wolves into UK - but let's have the Lynx back first, eh ?? My problem is with GM dogs, which are the cause of all our current problems....[/p][/quote]Maybe we should sterilize all humans too as we have done such a great job of destroying the plant. Or maybe just you![/p][/quote]I've already been done, amigo !! :D :D Harpya Orkinus

5:41pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Bert Fry says...

Mr irate wrote:
Yesterday on the beach there was far too many dogs running free off their leads. My kids spent the whole time nervously looking over their shoulders waiting the next out of control dog to come to close while they were playing in the sand! At one point a very large dog came too close and I picked up the biggest handful of stones I could find ready to unload as hard as I possibly could if needed. Should I really have to feel this unsafe for my kids on the beach??
If you live in constant state of paranoia then, yes, you will have to go on feeling unsafe. Do you feel this anxious when a vehicle drives past your child?
[quote][p][bold]Mr irate[/bold] wrote: Yesterday on the beach there was far too many dogs running free off their leads. My kids spent the whole time nervously looking over their shoulders waiting the next out of control dog to come to close while they were playing in the sand! At one point a very large dog came too close and I picked up the biggest handful of stones I could find ready to unload as hard as I possibly could if needed. Should I really have to feel this unsafe for my kids on the beach??[/p][/quote]If you live in constant state of paranoia then, yes, you will have to go on feeling unsafe. Do you feel this anxious when a vehicle drives past your child? Bert Fry

6:57pm Mon 17 Feb 14

K9 says...

Bert Fry, a car has a rational human in control for such a high percentage of the time that the risk is minuscule. Note so an untrained "he's only playing" dog that can knock a child over or worse.

Similarly flawed was the "treat a cyclist like a horse" advice to car drivers. No, a cyclist can better understand the car's intent and behaviour so can make do with less room at greater speed as he will be less readily spooked compared to a horse.
Bert Fry, a car has a rational human in control for such a high percentage of the time that the risk is minuscule. Note so an untrained "he's only playing" dog that can knock a child over or worse. Similarly flawed was the "treat a cyclist like a horse" advice to car drivers. No, a cyclist can better understand the car's intent and behaviour so can make do with less room at greater speed as he will be less readily spooked compared to a horse. K9

7:12pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Bert Fry says...

K9 wrote:
Bert Fry, a car has a rational human in control for such a high percentage of the time that the risk is minuscule. Note so an untrained "he's only playing" dog that can knock a child over or worse.

Similarly flawed was the "treat a cyclist like a horse" advice to car drivers. No, a cyclist can better understand the car's intent and behaviour so can make do with less room at greater speed as he will be less readily spooked compared to a horse.
I would argue that the risk from both is very small but statistically every year, more children are involved in fatal RTAs than are killed by dogs. However media presentation may lead you to think otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]K9[/bold] wrote: Bert Fry, a car has a rational human in control for such a high percentage of the time that the risk is minuscule. Note so an untrained "he's only playing" dog that can knock a child over or worse. Similarly flawed was the "treat a cyclist like a horse" advice to car drivers. No, a cyclist can better understand the car's intent and behaviour so can make do with less room at greater speed as he will be less readily spooked compared to a horse.[/p][/quote]I would argue that the risk from both is very small but statistically every year, more children are involved in fatal RTAs than are killed by dogs. However media presentation may lead you to think otherwise. Bert Fry

9:59pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

K9 wrote:
Bert Fry, a car has a rational human in control for such a high percentage of the time that the risk is minuscule. Note so an untrained "he's only playing" dog that can knock a child over or worse.

Similarly flawed was the "treat a cyclist like a horse" advice to car drivers. No, a cyclist can better understand the car's intent and behaviour so can make do with less room at greater speed as he will be less readily spooked compared to a horse.
We seem to be going off topic here, but I have to say that you seem to live in a world thats missing the one in ten ( if not more ) of car drivers that ostensibly seem to have purchased a driving license from a bloke down the pub.
[quote][p][bold]K9[/bold] wrote: Bert Fry, a car has a rational human in control for such a high percentage of the time that the risk is minuscule. Note so an untrained "he's only playing" dog that can knock a child over or worse. Similarly flawed was the "treat a cyclist like a horse" advice to car drivers. No, a cyclist can better understand the car's intent and behaviour so can make do with less room at greater speed as he will be less readily spooked compared to a horse.[/p][/quote]We seem to be going off topic here, but I have to say that you seem to live in a world thats missing the one in ten ( if not more ) of car drivers that ostensibly seem to have purchased a driving license from a bloke down the pub. Parkstreetshufle

8:19am Tue 18 Feb 14

Mr irate says...

Bert Fry wrote:
Mr irate wrote: Yesterday on the beach there was far too many dogs running free off their leads. My kids spent the whole time nervously looking over their shoulders waiting the next out of control dog to come to close while they were playing in the sand! At one point a very large dog came too close and I picked up the biggest handful of stones I could find ready to unload as hard as I possibly could if needed. Should I really have to feel this unsafe for my kids on the beach??
If you live in constant state of paranoia then, yes, you will have to go on feeling unsafe. Do you feel this anxious when a vehicle drives past your child?
No because when a vehicle drives past I know someone is in control unlike all the out of control dogs!!! Also I'm large enough to know if the worse happens I'm capable of removing any dog using the kick so hard it goes into space method, however some of the dog owners are not big enough to control a cat.
[quote][p][bold]Bert Fry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr irate[/bold] wrote: Yesterday on the beach there was far too many dogs running free off their leads. My kids spent the whole time nervously looking over their shoulders waiting the next out of control dog to come to close while they were playing in the sand! At one point a very large dog came too close and I picked up the biggest handful of stones I could find ready to unload as hard as I possibly could if needed. Should I really have to feel this unsafe for my kids on the beach??[/p][/quote]If you live in constant state of paranoia then, yes, you will have to go on feeling unsafe. Do you feel this anxious when a vehicle drives past your child?[/p][/quote]No because when a vehicle drives past I know someone is in control unlike all the out of control dogs!!! Also I'm large enough to know if the worse happens I'm capable of removing any dog using the kick so hard it goes into space method, however some of the dog owners are not big enough to control a cat. Mr irate

8:37am Tue 18 Feb 14

WestDorsetLass says...

Unfortunately it seems like a situation that was an accident waiting to happen has happened. A similar situation happened where I live, where a man who had been reported and spoken to by police about his aggressive (Staffy type) dog on repeated occasions tied up his dog outside a shop and the dog bit a toddler on the face. The case is currently going through court with the owner being charged with having a dog that was dangerously out of control in a public place.

It is despicable that people have dogs which they cannot control, whatever the breed. In the case of the incident on the beach at Weymouth it would help if there was visible police or dog warden presence to help every dog owner understand that not everyone likes being run at and jumped at by other people's dogs, no matter how harmless they might be. It's the same old story - people need to take responsibility for their actions and the actions of whatever is in their possession. If the owner of the dogs who attacked on Weymouth beach was half decent he would come forward and take full responsibility for what happened - however I won't be holding my breath.
Unfortunately it seems like a situation that was an accident waiting to happen has happened. A similar situation happened where I live, where a man who had been reported and spoken to by police about his aggressive (Staffy type) dog on repeated occasions tied up his dog outside a shop and the dog bit a toddler on the face. The case is currently going through court with the owner being charged with having a dog that was dangerously out of control in a public place. It is despicable that people have dogs which they cannot control, whatever the breed. In the case of the incident on the beach at Weymouth it would help if there was visible police or dog warden presence to help every dog owner understand that not everyone likes being run at and jumped at by other people's dogs, no matter how harmless they might be. It's the same old story - people need to take responsibility for their actions and the actions of whatever is in their possession. If the owner of the dogs who attacked on Weymouth beach was half decent he would come forward and take full responsibility for what happened - however I won't be holding my breath. WestDorsetLass

11:27am Tue 18 Feb 14

Portlandgary says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs.
'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself.
The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...
Going off of the subject of Staffies.
I would like to express that I take offence at your comment about Tattoo sleeves, you are obviously a very judgmental person, which personally I think is a very bad trait!
I myself have Tattoo sleeves including tattoos on my chest, back and legs, this is done because I personally have a love for tattoos, it is a form of art that I have chosen to put on my body, this is my choice and not done to offend or intimidate anybody, mostly traditional Japanese designs, not the skulls with daggers in and love and hate on my knuckles, although if that it anybodys choice it is not for me to pass comment on.
If I need to go out in a suit and tie, for a meal or meeting etc none of my tattoos are visible, I have chosen to do this (possibly wrongly) because narrow minded people like yourself make snap decisions on what that person must be because of their tattoos.
I have a lovely wife and family, a nice home and a very respectable job, I don't fight, hang around in gangs or anything else that you would probably label somebody with tattoos does.
I enjoy good company and conversation, fine food and wine, when I am off I enjoy hiking, photography and bird watching, is this so tough?
If you saw me in the street you with a jacket and jeans on you would not know I had tattoos and i guess you would label me as a 'normal' person, but there again if I came into a cafe/pub or restaurant that you were in and then took my jacket off so you could see my sleeves I guess in your eyes I would be trying to look tough!
I really do think you should open your shallow thoughts and be a little less judgmental.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs. 'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself. The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...[/p][/quote]Going off of the subject of Staffies. I would like to express that I take offence at your comment about Tattoo sleeves, you are obviously a very judgmental person, which personally I think is a very bad trait! I myself have Tattoo sleeves including tattoos on my chest, back and legs, this is done because I personally have a love for tattoos, it is a form of art that I have chosen to put on my body, this is my choice and not done to offend or intimidate anybody, mostly traditional Japanese designs, not the skulls with daggers in and love and hate on my knuckles, although if that it anybodys choice it is not for me to pass comment on. If I need to go out in a suit and tie, for a meal or meeting etc none of my tattoos are visible, I have chosen to do this (possibly wrongly) because narrow minded people like yourself make snap decisions on what that person must be because of their tattoos. I have a lovely wife and family, a nice home and a very respectable job, I don't fight, hang around in gangs or anything else that you would probably label somebody with tattoos does. I enjoy good company and conversation, fine food and wine, when I am off I enjoy hiking, photography and bird watching, is this so tough? If you saw me in the street you with a jacket and jeans on you would not know I had tattoos and i guess you would label me as a 'normal' person, but there again if I came into a cafe/pub or restaurant that you were in and then took my jacket off so you could see my sleeves I guess in your eyes I would be trying to look tough! I really do think you should open your shallow thoughts and be a little less judgmental. Portlandgary

11:50am Tue 18 Feb 14

Portlandgary says...

Just to add please.
I would like to apologies to everybody on here from going off of the subject of the dog attack and hope the owner and his injured dog make a speedy and full recovery.
Just to add please. I would like to apologies to everybody on here from going off of the subject of the dog attack and hope the owner and his injured dog make a speedy and full recovery. Portlandgary

12:41pm Wed 19 Feb 14

rospar says...

intiindiana wrote:
Dorset Echo - any updates about the condition of the dog and its owner? Are they OK? Has anyone been arrested yet?
I have just been to see the dog and it's owner and am happy to say that Tara (the dog) seems to be doing well but if you saw her injuries you would wonder how she survived, it took over 2 hours of surgery to put her right and she still has drains in. lets hope for a full recovery. The owner is ok as well.
[quote][p][bold]intiindiana[/bold] wrote: Dorset Echo - any updates about the condition of the dog and its owner? Are they OK? Has anyone been arrested yet?[/p][/quote]I have just been to see the dog and it's owner and am happy to say that Tara (the dog) seems to be doing well but if you saw her injuries you would wonder how she survived, it took over 2 hours of surgery to put her right and she still has drains in. lets hope for a full recovery. The owner is ok as well. rospar

8:22pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Noidear says...

I think car owners r just as bad, Audi drivers all the same attacking me at a crossing I had the green man but no they came in a pack and I had to run, and guess what the driver a woman had a tattoo .
I think car owners r just as bad, Audi drivers all the same attacking me at a crossing I had the green man but no they came in a pack and I had to run, and guess what the driver a woman had a tattoo . Noidear

9:06pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Bert Fry says...

Vulpesv wrote:
During the winter why not have a fence put on the beech to show the designated dog area instead of them running all over the beech? Also have new signs with rules eg all dogs must wear muzzles and no unsupervised children behold this point.. Or use the ribbon scheme to show if a dogs stressed, on heat, does not like other dogs.
The dog owners need to be able to enjoy the beech, but I agree there needs to be some control, Fingers crossed this was a one off. Though.
All dogs can bite and attack not just Staffies.
Superficially, the ribbon scheme would seem to be a good idea but the problem is, responsible owners (who would use the scheme) aren't the problem, it's the irresponsible owners (who wouldn't bother) that need to be tackled. As others have said, we pay for a dog warden so why does he seem to be largely invisible?
[quote][p][bold]Vulpesv[/bold] wrote: During the winter why not have a fence put on the beech to show the designated dog area instead of them running all over the beech? Also have new signs with rules eg all dogs must wear muzzles and no unsupervised children behold this point.. Or use the ribbon scheme to show if a dogs stressed, on heat, does not like other dogs. The dog owners need to be able to enjoy the beech, but I agree there needs to be some control, Fingers crossed this was a one off. Though. All dogs can bite and attack not just Staffies.[/p][/quote]Superficially, the ribbon scheme would seem to be a good idea but the problem is, responsible owners (who would use the scheme) aren't the problem, it's the irresponsible owners (who wouldn't bother) that need to be tackled. As others have said, we pay for a dog warden so why does he seem to be largely invisible? Bert Fry

12:18am Thu 20 Feb 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

Portlandgary wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs.
'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself.
The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...
Going off of the subject of Staffies.
I would like to express that I take offence at your comment about Tattoo sleeves, you are obviously a very judgmental person, which personally I think is a very bad trait!
I myself have Tattoo sleeves including tattoos on my chest, back and legs, this is done because I personally have a love for tattoos, it is a form of art that I have chosen to put on my body, this is my choice and not done to offend or intimidate anybody, mostly traditional Japanese designs, not the skulls with daggers in and love and hate on my knuckles, although if that it anybodys choice it is not for me to pass comment on.
If I need to go out in a suit and tie, for a meal or meeting etc none of my tattoos are visible, I have chosen to do this (possibly wrongly) because narrow minded people like yourself make snap decisions on what that person must be because of their tattoos.
I have a lovely wife and family, a nice home and a very respectable job, I don't fight, hang around in gangs or anything else that you would probably label somebody with tattoos does.
I enjoy good company and conversation, fine food and wine, when I am off I enjoy hiking, photography and bird watching, is this so tough?
If you saw me in the street you with a jacket and jeans on you would not know I had tattoos and i guess you would label me as a 'normal' person, but there again if I came into a cafe/pub or restaurant that you were in and then took my jacket off so you could see my sleeves I guess in your eyes I would be trying to look tough!
I really do think you should open your shallow thoughts and be a little less judgmental.
My grandfather had tattoos. That's does not change the fact that I see a lot of young blokes in Weymouth walking around intimidating people with primarily a staffy or similar on a chain and a stupid swagger, often with tattoo sleeves. They're like little girls - and you know the minute they are put under any pressure they would fold like a deck of cards.
They do intimidate people, those that don't like difficulty or confrontation. They walk the other way, or cross the road. They frighten people, and they know it. That's why they do it.
I'm judgemental - yes I am. I judge a situation for what I see, so you must understand that to me, I see those traits and I am willing to start causing waves. I intensely dislike people that try and intimidate others for personal gain or even worse some kind of perverse enjoyment. If I get an opportunity to get at those kind of people, I do. For my enjoyment.
I judge corrupt officials, I judge bent coppers, I judge pedophile priests. You can bet your life I judge idiots that stand around trying to look tough because they have a few tattoos and a dog on a chain. They are beyond pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]Portlandgary[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs. 'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself. The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...[/p][/quote]Going off of the subject of Staffies. I would like to express that I take offence at your comment about Tattoo sleeves, you are obviously a very judgmental person, which personally I think is a very bad trait! I myself have Tattoo sleeves including tattoos on my chest, back and legs, this is done because I personally have a love for tattoos, it is a form of art that I have chosen to put on my body, this is my choice and not done to offend or intimidate anybody, mostly traditional Japanese designs, not the skulls with daggers in and love and hate on my knuckles, although if that it anybodys choice it is not for me to pass comment on. If I need to go out in a suit and tie, for a meal or meeting etc none of my tattoos are visible, I have chosen to do this (possibly wrongly) because narrow minded people like yourself make snap decisions on what that person must be because of their tattoos. I have a lovely wife and family, a nice home and a very respectable job, I don't fight, hang around in gangs or anything else that you would probably label somebody with tattoos does. I enjoy good company and conversation, fine food and wine, when I am off I enjoy hiking, photography and bird watching, is this so tough? If you saw me in the street you with a jacket and jeans on you would not know I had tattoos and i guess you would label me as a 'normal' person, but there again if I came into a cafe/pub or restaurant that you were in and then took my jacket off so you could see my sleeves I guess in your eyes I would be trying to look tough! I really do think you should open your shallow thoughts and be a little less judgmental.[/p][/quote]My grandfather had tattoos. That's does not change the fact that I see a lot of young blokes in Weymouth walking around intimidating people with primarily a staffy or similar on a chain and a stupid swagger, often with tattoo sleeves. They're like little girls - and you know the minute they are put under any pressure they would fold like a deck of cards. They do intimidate people, those that don't like difficulty or confrontation. They walk the other way, or cross the road. They frighten people, and they know it. That's why they do it. I'm judgemental - yes I am. I judge a situation for what I see, so you must understand that to me, I see those traits and I am willing to start causing waves. I intensely dislike people that try and intimidate others for personal gain or even worse some kind of perverse enjoyment. If I get an opportunity to get at those kind of people, I do. For my enjoyment. I judge corrupt officials, I judge bent coppers, I judge pedophile priests. You can bet your life I judge idiots that stand around trying to look tough because they have a few tattoos and a dog on a chain. They are beyond pathetic. Parkstreetshufle

5:48am Thu 20 Feb 14

Portlandgary says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Portlandgary wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs.
'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself.
The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...
Going off of the subject of Staffies.
I would like to express that I take offence at your comment about Tattoo sleeves, you are obviously a very judgmental person, which personally I think is a very bad trait!
I myself have Tattoo sleeves including tattoos on my chest, back and legs, this is done because I personally have a love for tattoos, it is a form of art that I have chosen to put on my body, this is my choice and not done to offend or intimidate anybody, mostly traditional Japanese designs, not the skulls with daggers in and love and hate on my knuckles, although if that it anybodys choice it is not for me to pass comment on.
If I need to go out in a suit and tie, for a meal or meeting etc none of my tattoos are visible, I have chosen to do this (possibly wrongly) because narrow minded people like yourself make snap decisions on what that person must be because of their tattoos.
I have a lovely wife and family, a nice home and a very respectable job, I don't fight, hang around in gangs or anything else that you would probably label somebody with tattoos does.
I enjoy good company and conversation, fine food and wine, when I am off I enjoy hiking, photography and bird watching, is this so tough?
If you saw me in the street you with a jacket and jeans on you would not know I had tattoos and i guess you would label me as a 'normal' person, but there again if I came into a cafe/pub or restaurant that you were in and then took my jacket off so you could see my sleeves I guess in your eyes I would be trying to look tough!
I really do think you should open your shallow thoughts and be a little less judgmental.
My grandfather had tattoos. That's does not change the fact that I see a lot of young blokes in Weymouth walking around intimidating people with primarily a staffy or similar on a chain and a stupid swagger, often with tattoo sleeves. They're like little girls - and you know the minute they are put under any pressure they would fold like a deck of cards.
They do intimidate people, those that don't like difficulty or confrontation. They walk the other way, or cross the road. They frighten people, and they know it. That's why they do it.
I'm judgemental - yes I am. I judge a situation for what I see, so you must understand that to me, I see those traits and I am willing to start causing waves. I intensely dislike people that try and intimidate others for personal gain or even worse some kind of perverse enjoyment. If I get an opportunity to get at those kind of people, I do. For my enjoyment.
I judge corrupt officials, I judge bent coppers, I judge pedophile priests. You can bet your life I judge idiots that stand around trying to look tough because they have a few tattoos and a dog on a chain. They are beyond pathetic.
I do not disagree with you.
My point is that your original comment read as if you were labelling everybody with tattoos as the same as these halfwit types that you describe, this is what I took offence at.
I would hope that you are intelligent enough to realise there is good and bad in all walks of life and in all groups.
As I stated I totally agree with you, there are bad policemen, politicians, priests etc. etc. the list is endless, I will be one of the first to stand up and condone believe me, but not until I have all the facts or witnessed with my own eyes.
So for you to categorise people with tattoos as these lowlife that you describe then I feel you are no better.
You do not know me, therefore it is not for you to judge me on the fact that I have tattoos.
Do you not agree?
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Portlandgary[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: Quelle surprise, a staffy - a dog people always say are unfairly grouped with aggressive prestige dogs. 'You need to know how to handle them' - more like they just need to be banned from domestic ownership. Their sole purpose exactly the same as a tattoo sleeve - namely to try and made the owner look tough. What it actually says is I'm slightly insecure about myself. The concept of members of the public being allowed to keep aggressive breeds that have no other purpose than to be aggressive is totally and utterly insane. There is no other reason than vanity - ban them...[/p][/quote]Going off of the subject of Staffies. I would like to express that I take offence at your comment about Tattoo sleeves, you are obviously a very judgmental person, which personally I think is a very bad trait! I myself have Tattoo sleeves including tattoos on my chest, back and legs, this is done because I personally have a love for tattoos, it is a form of art that I have chosen to put on my body, this is my choice and not done to offend or intimidate anybody, mostly traditional Japanese designs, not the skulls with daggers in and love and hate on my knuckles, although if that it anybodys choice it is not for me to pass comment on. If I need to go out in a suit and tie, for a meal or meeting etc none of my tattoos are visible, I have chosen to do this (possibly wrongly) because narrow minded people like yourself make snap decisions on what that person must be because of their tattoos. I have a lovely wife and family, a nice home and a very respectable job, I don't fight, hang around in gangs or anything else that you would probably label somebody with tattoos does. I enjoy good company and conversation, fine food and wine, when I am off I enjoy hiking, photography and bird watching, is this so tough? If you saw me in the street you with a jacket and jeans on you would not know I had tattoos and i guess you would label me as a 'normal' person, but there again if I came into a cafe/pub or restaurant that you were in and then took my jacket off so you could see my sleeves I guess in your eyes I would be trying to look tough! I really do think you should open your shallow thoughts and be a little less judgmental.[/p][/quote]My grandfather had tattoos. That's does not change the fact that I see a lot of young blokes in Weymouth walking around intimidating people with primarily a staffy or similar on a chain and a stupid swagger, often with tattoo sleeves. They're like little girls - and you know the minute they are put under any pressure they would fold like a deck of cards. They do intimidate people, those that don't like difficulty or confrontation. They walk the other way, or cross the road. They frighten people, and they know it. That's why they do it. I'm judgemental - yes I am. I judge a situation for what I see, so you must understand that to me, I see those traits and I am willing to start causing waves. I intensely dislike people that try and intimidate others for personal gain or even worse some kind of perverse enjoyment. If I get an opportunity to get at those kind of people, I do. For my enjoyment. I judge corrupt officials, I judge bent coppers, I judge pedophile priests. You can bet your life I judge idiots that stand around trying to look tough because they have a few tattoos and a dog on a chain. They are beyond pathetic.[/p][/quote]I do not disagree with you. My point is that your original comment read as if you were labelling everybody with tattoos as the same as these halfwit types that you describe, this is what I took offence at. I would hope that you are intelligent enough to realise there is good and bad in all walks of life and in all groups. As I stated I totally agree with you, there are bad policemen, politicians, priests etc. etc. the list is endless, I will be one of the first to stand up and condone believe me, but not until I have all the facts or witnessed with my own eyes. So for you to categorise people with tattoos as these lowlife that you describe then I feel you are no better. You do not know me, therefore it is not for you to judge me on the fact that I have tattoos. Do you not agree? Portlandgary

7:04am Thu 20 Feb 14

intiindiana says...

rospar wrote:
intiindiana wrote:
Dorset Echo - any updates about the condition of the dog and its owner? Are they OK? Has anyone been arrested yet?
I have just been to see the dog and it's owner and am happy to say that Tara (the dog) seems to be doing well but if you saw her injuries you would wonder how she survived, it took over 2 hours of surgery to put her right and she still has drains in. lets hope for a full recovery. The owner is ok as well.
Thank you rospar for letting us know. Please given Tara and her owner my very best wishes for a speedy recovery. My dachshund was attacked by an alsation some years ago but not as badly as poor Tara. At the time the Police would do nothing unless we carried him to where the owner and dog were to confront them. We didn`t do that as he was in a lot of pain, with a hole in his side. The dog later savaged the owner`s son`s arm and had to be put to sleep. I think the law should be changed so that any attacks, whether on dogs or humans, should be given equal significance.
[quote][p][bold]rospar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]intiindiana[/bold] wrote: Dorset Echo - any updates about the condition of the dog and its owner? Are they OK? Has anyone been arrested yet?[/p][/quote]I have just been to see the dog and it's owner and am happy to say that Tara (the dog) seems to be doing well but if you saw her injuries you would wonder how she survived, it took over 2 hours of surgery to put her right and she still has drains in. lets hope for a full recovery. The owner is ok as well.[/p][/quote]Thank you rospar for letting us know. Please given Tara and her owner my very best wishes for a speedy recovery. My dachshund was attacked by an alsation some years ago but not as badly as poor Tara. At the time the Police would do nothing unless we carried him to where the owner and dog were to confront them. We didn`t do that as he was in a lot of pain, with a hole in his side. The dog later savaged the owner`s son`s arm and had to be put to sleep. I think the law should be changed so that any attacks, whether on dogs or humans, should be given equal significance. intiindiana

2:55pm Sat 22 Feb 14

billbowles says...

to the comments made by the nieve people saying all staffies should be put down! what utter rubbish they are the most loving loyal and caring dogs,and in the right hands no less dangerous than your average collie, yes some of the owners need putting down, but dont judge a book by its cover i have owned staffies all my life and yes im covered in tattos but it does not make me a thug or my dog! and when i walk my dog i can garuantee he is always on a lead, mussled, and datataged and fully insured..unlike most people waliking there there dogs! when will people realise its not the dog its the owner?
to the comments made by the nieve people saying all staffies should be put down! what utter rubbish they are the most loving loyal and caring dogs,and in the right hands no less dangerous than your average collie, yes some of the owners need putting down, but dont judge a book by its cover i have owned staffies all my life and yes im covered in tattos but it does not make me a thug or my dog! and when i walk my dog i can garuantee he is always on a lead, mussled, and datataged and fully insured..unlike most people waliking there there dogs! when will people realise its not the dog its the owner? billbowles

4:56pm Tue 4 Mar 14

oldbrock says...

WestDorsetLass wrote:
Unfortunately it seems like a situation that was an accident waiting to happen has happened. A similar situation happened where I live, where a man who had been reported and spoken to by police about his aggressive (Staffy type) dog on repeated occasions tied up his dog outside a shop and the dog bit a toddler on the face. The case is currently going through court with the owner being charged with having a dog that was dangerously out of control in a public place.

It is despicable that people have dogs which they cannot control, whatever the breed. In the case of the incident on the beach at Weymouth it would help if there was visible police or dog warden presence to help every dog owner understand that not everyone likes being run at and jumped at by other people's dogs, no matter how harmless they might be. It's the same old story - people need to take responsibility for their actions and the actions of whatever is in their possession. If the owner of the dogs who attacked on Weymouth beach was half decent he would come forward and take full responsibility for what happened - however I won't be holding my breath.
the trouble is, SOME dog owners are like SOME smokers, latterly, "the world is my ashtray" and formerly "my dog is more important than, a child, another dog, a clean beach", solid matter may be bagged and taken away but what about urine?. until human nature changes at base level and there is just a bit of consideration for others, then nothing will change. It does seem strange that as reported, no police or dog warden action? why is that? perhaps if it had been a dead toddler??
[quote][p][bold]WestDorsetLass[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately it seems like a situation that was an accident waiting to happen has happened. A similar situation happened where I live, where a man who had been reported and spoken to by police about his aggressive (Staffy type) dog on repeated occasions tied up his dog outside a shop and the dog bit a toddler on the face. The case is currently going through court with the owner being charged with having a dog that was dangerously out of control in a public place. It is despicable that people have dogs which they cannot control, whatever the breed. In the case of the incident on the beach at Weymouth it would help if there was visible police or dog warden presence to help every dog owner understand that not everyone likes being run at and jumped at by other people's dogs, no matter how harmless they might be. It's the same old story - people need to take responsibility for their actions and the actions of whatever is in their possession. If the owner of the dogs who attacked on Weymouth beach was half decent he would come forward and take full responsibility for what happened - however I won't be holding my breath.[/p][/quote]the trouble is, SOME dog owners are like SOME smokers, latterly, "the world is my ashtray" and formerly "my dog is more important than, a child, another dog, a clean beach", solid matter may be bagged and taken away but what about urine?. until human nature changes at base level and there is just a bit of consideration for others, then nothing will change. It does seem strange that as reported, no police or dog warden action? why is that? perhaps if it had been a dead toddler?? oldbrock

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree