Council tax precept fury- councillor storms out of meeting

Dorset Echo: Council tax precept fury- councillor storms out meeting Council tax precept fury- councillor storms out meeting

A CONTROVERSIAL councillor stormed out of a meeting as tempers flared once again over the attempt to hike up Portland's council tax precept by 1,000 per cent.

Calls were made by the scores of angry residents, who packed into The Methodist Church Hall on Tuesday, for Portland Town Council to dissolve itself and stand for re-election in May.

At a meeting last Tuesday, councillors scrapped a controversial decision to increase the precept by 1,000 per cent amid an island revolt and voted on a new figure of 1.99 per cent.

The town council has to officially inform Weymouth and Portland Borough Council of decisions made about the precept and there was surprise that this was not done immediately.

Angry voices were heard calling for councillor Richard Denton-White to leave as another row broke out following a previous meeting where he swore at an island resident.

The open forum, where members of the public were invited to speak, continued for over an hour with councillors asked why they had even considered the huge tax hike.

Scores of residents were heard calling for councillors to stand down with many speaking of their lack of trust in the elected members.

Mayor Les Ames told residents that members 'made a mistake' voting for the huge increase.

He added: "I have put 40 years of my life into this island. I do not appreciate being shouted at." He told residents and councillors that he would finish his term as mayor by May.

Questions were asked by residents who queried whether councillors had considered the high numbers of low earners on Portland.

Resident Paul Snow reminded councillors that Underhill was one of the most underprivileged in Dorset.

Further questions asked what the extra money would have been used for.

Borough councillor Margaret Leicester said no services have been allocated to Portland Town Council since 1974 and added: "What you're paying for is a talking shop."

Town clerk Ian Looker said it had taken time to inform the borough council due to working out what the precept was.

Before he left, cllr Denton-White said he should not have previously used bad language.

Resident Margaret Stone said: “It's hurt everybody, we feel bitter. Please get your act together."

Borough councillor David Hawkins said: "We need to restore the faith in this lowest form of democracy."

THE People of Portland Against the Precept group urged Portland Town Council to resign.

Former town councillor John Thorner said: “We wish to call your attention that at the meeting of Wednesday, February 12 a vote of no confidence in the current town council was proposed and seconded.

“It was voted on by the people present by a unanimous decision that there is no confidence in the current regime.”

He added: “Resign now you are not wanted.”

Attendees heard that cllr Rachel Barton had already resigned prior to the meeting while cllrs Reynolds and Dutheridge offered to resign during it.

 

SOUTH Dorset MP Richard Drax responded to pleas by many constituents to intervene after attempts to raise the precept by 1,000 per cent.

Mr Drax was unable to attend the public meeting held on Tuesday but was represented by his constituency caseworker.

He said: “To be absolutely clear, as soon as I was made aware of my constituents' concerns, I contacted the department for local government, and received the following response from the minister Brandon Lewis, which I forwarded to the councillors involved before the meeting.

“On that email, I supported the minister's view that the rise was 'utterly unreasonable'.”

In the email sent to Mr Drax, Mr Lewis wrote: “Parish councils have never received central government funding and are self-financing, but such a large increase seems to me to be utterly unreasonable.

“Incidents like these make the case for council tax referendum protections to be extended to parish councils, and such an extension of direct democracy is something we are considering."

Mr Drax added: “Reading the Minister's response, I would consider that there is an implicit warning for irresponsible town and parish councils in future.”

He said that some Portland town councillors reportedly defended the decision, saying that they were forced to raise the precept drastically because the government intended to cap town council taxes.

Mr Drax added the communities secretary Eric Pickles had not suggested that town and parish precepts will be capped.

 

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10:56pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Tinker2 says...

Borough councillor David Hawkins said: "We need to restore the faith in this lowest form of democracy."

Yes, the lowest of the low in terms of behaviour.
Borough councillor David Hawkins said: "We need to restore the faith in this lowest form of democracy." Yes, the lowest of the low in terms of behaviour. Tinker2

11:57pm Tue 18 Feb 14

annotater says...

Oh dear, Authorized Mob Rule didn't work. I wonder why that is!
Get a grip on reality. We have no pay rise and YOU want 1000% ... so there is nothing wrong?
You all are totally out of touch with reality.
Oh dear, Authorized Mob Rule didn't work. I wonder why that is! Get a grip on reality. We have no pay rise and YOU want 1000% ... so there is nothing wrong? You all are totally out of touch with reality. annotater

12:16am Wed 19 Feb 14

1Kimberlin says...

Funny how the town clerk to nearly a week to get the lower figure to the Borough yet he got Munro 1000% percent proposal in within 24 hours.
I wonder if it had anything to do with his {Munros} emails sent from his recent holiday threatening g to get the 1.99% thrown out when he got back. Cllr Rodney Wild the Boroughs former Dog Catcher told the audience that "as a pensioner I would pay the £3.00 per week extra that the 1000% increase would cost". Of course you would but most of us haven't got the luxury of A a large Naval Pension & B a Government Pension as well mate. Then we have Portland answer to Homer J Simpsom Kristopher Dutheridge Mr I ain't gotta clue a man who has no permanent address on Portland so does not Pay any Council Tax yet wants every one to stump up for hair-brained no hope schemes. As for Mr Despicable Denton -White I think John Thorner summed him up as the best value for money councillor Portland has as he juggles two jobs one as a councillor and the other as Underhills Village Idiot.
Funny how the town clerk to nearly a week to get the lower figure to the Borough yet he got Munro 1000% percent proposal in within 24 hours. I wonder if it had anything to do with his {Munros} emails sent from his recent holiday threatening g to get the 1.99% thrown out when he got back. Cllr Rodney Wild the Boroughs former Dog Catcher told the audience that "as a pensioner I would pay the £3.00 per week extra that the 1000% increase would cost". Of course you would but most of us haven't got the luxury of A a large Naval Pension & B a Government Pension as well mate. Then we have Portland answer to Homer J Simpsom Kristopher Dutheridge Mr I ain't gotta clue a man who has no permanent address on Portland so does not Pay any Council Tax yet wants every one to stump up for hair-brained no hope schemes. As for Mr Despicable Denton -White I think John Thorner summed him up as the best value for money councillor Portland has as he juggles two jobs one as a councillor and the other as Underhills Village Idiot. 1Kimberlin

7:59am Wed 19 Feb 14

portland maid says...

"Before he left, cllr Denton-White admitted that he should not have used bad language at the previous meeting."
What The Echo failed to add was that he laid blame on the public and another councillor for timekeeping (not relevant) to deflect that he showed shameful behaviour and isn't sorry for it. He also said he felt that swearing in Church was no worse than swearing in a Scouts Hut - totally wrong and obviously not god-fearing and as for the idea this man would be allowed near children as a role model is scary! I vote for disbandment. Then the cry of 'Weymouth Council wont do it' will be tested properly instead of maybe a ruse by our cba Portland Council members.
"Before he left, cllr Denton-White admitted that he should not have used bad language at the previous meeting." What The Echo failed to add was that he laid blame on the public and another councillor for timekeeping (not relevant) to deflect that he showed shameful behaviour and isn't sorry for it. He also said he felt that swearing in Church was no worse than swearing in a Scouts Hut - totally wrong and obviously not god-fearing and as for the idea this man would be allowed near children as a role model is scary! I vote for disbandment. Then the cry of 'Weymouth Council wont do it' will be tested properly instead of maybe a ruse by our cba Portland Council members. portland maid

8:46am Wed 19 Feb 14

Rocksalt says...

Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ?
Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ? Rocksalt

12:04pm Wed 19 Feb 14

David_divenghy2 says...

This is what needs doing with government all the way to the top. It's not about mob rule until these arrogant people forget who it is they serve and it isn't themselves. Dissolve this council now.
This is what needs doing with government all the way to the top. It's not about mob rule until these arrogant people forget who it is they serve and it isn't themselves. Dissolve this council now. David_divenghy2

12:06pm Wed 19 Feb 14

David_divenghy2 says...

portland maid wrote:
"Before he left, cllr Denton-White admitted that he should not have used bad language at the previous meeting."
What The Echo failed to add was that he laid blame on the public and another councillor for timekeeping (not relevant) to deflect that he showed shameful behaviour and isn't sorry for it. He also said he felt that swearing in Church was no worse than swearing in a Scouts Hut - totally wrong and obviously not god-fearing and as for the idea this man would be allowed near children as a role model is scary! I vote for disbandment. Then the cry of 'Weymouth Council wont do it' will be tested properly instead of maybe a ruse by our cba Portland Council members.
" not god-fearing "

Please leave the sky fairy out of it, anyone who say's that is worse than they are.
[quote][p][bold]portland maid[/bold] wrote: "Before he left, cllr Denton-White admitted that he should not have used bad language at the previous meeting." What The Echo failed to add was that he laid blame on the public and another councillor for timekeeping (not relevant) to deflect that he showed shameful behaviour and isn't sorry for it. He also said he felt that swearing in Church was no worse than swearing in a Scouts Hut - totally wrong and obviously not god-fearing and as for the idea this man would be allowed near children as a role model is scary! I vote for disbandment. Then the cry of 'Weymouth Council wont do it' will be tested properly instead of maybe a ruse by our cba Portland Council members.[/p][/quote]" not god-fearing " Please leave the sky fairy out of it, anyone who say's that is worse than they are. David_divenghy2

2:01pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Laadeeda says...

Why hasn't the initiator of the 1000% Precept rise fallen on his sword. Surely that would be the honourable thing?
Why hasn't the initiator of the 1000% Precept rise fallen on his sword. Surely that would be the honourable thing? Laadeeda

2:26pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Nomalice says...

Laadeeda wrote:
Why hasn't the initiator of the 1000% Precept rise fallen on his sword. Surely that would be the honourable thing?
Still riding the crest of the local popularity wave, and working on the Mayoral acceptance speech, with the Town Clerk.Now there is something REALLY important and needs urgent attention.
[quote][p][bold]Laadeeda[/bold] wrote: Why hasn't the initiator of the 1000% Precept rise fallen on his sword. Surely that would be the honourable thing?[/p][/quote]Still riding the crest of the local popularity wave, and working on the Mayoral acceptance speech, with the Town Clerk.Now there is something REALLY important and needs urgent attention. Nomalice

2:30pm Wed 19 Feb 14

chesil beach says...

Rocksalt wrote:
Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ?
It means you can have a fear of rabbits and nobody can laugh at you or take micky,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ?[/p][/quote]It means you can have a fear of rabbits and nobody can laugh at you or take micky,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,, chesil beach

2:42pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Rocksalt says...

chesil beach wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ?
It means you can have a fear of rabbits and nobody can laugh at you or take micky,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,
Ah, right. Now, where is my Easter Bunny outfit.
[quote][p][bold]chesil beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ?[/p][/quote]It means you can have a fear of rabbits and nobody can laugh at you or take micky,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,[/p][/quote]Ah, right. Now, where is my Easter Bunny outfit. Rocksalt

3:44pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Newground says...

"At Red House Estate Agents we have seen a great start to the year with houses selling and homes renting in good volumes."

That is a pretty good effort given the wretched weather we've had and the dismal distraction of 15,000 largely non-bearded Portlanders telling the mighty Munros to go jump in the lake.

If you take a look at the Red House Web site you will see a picture of the lighthouse transmitting a bright rotating beam... on a sunny day!

No Portlander would be as bright as the beards to come up with anything like that.
"At Red House Estate Agents we have seen a great start to the year with houses selling and homes renting in good volumes." That is a pretty good effort given the wretched weather we've had and the dismal distraction of 15,000 largely non-bearded Portlanders telling the mighty Munros to go jump in the lake. If you take a look at the Red House Web site you will see a picture of the lighthouse transmitting a bright rotating beam... on a sunny day! No Portlander would be as bright as the beards to come up with anything like that. Newground

6:45pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Nomalice says...

chesil beach wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ?
It means you can have a fear of rabbits and nobody can laugh at you or take micky,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,
Come off it ,Chesil Beach, you have got it wrong. It means " you have been thrown off Pulpit by a loving parent to teach you to swim. And encouraged to eat Kimberlins who look sideways at you.
[quote][p][bold]chesil beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ?[/p][/quote]It means you can have a fear of rabbits and nobody can laugh at you or take micky,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,[/p][/quote]Come off it ,Chesil Beach, you have got it wrong. It means " you have been thrown off Pulpit by a loving parent to teach you to swim. And encouraged to eat Kimberlins who look sideways at you. Nomalice

10:05pm Wed 19 Feb 14

chesil beach says...

Nomalice wrote:
chesil beach wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ?
It means you can have a fear of rabbits and nobody can laugh at you or take micky,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


,,
Come off it ,Chesil Beach, you have got it wrong. It means " you have been thrown off Pulpit by a loving parent to teach you to swim. And encouraged to eat Kimberlins who look sideways at you.
NO no no that was all stopped when we joined weymouth,
[quote][p][bold]Nomalice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chesil beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: Out of curiosity, what is the significance of being a "fifth generation Portlander" ?[/p][/quote]It means you can have a fear of rabbits and nobody can laugh at you or take micky,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,[/p][/quote]Come off it ,Chesil Beach, you have got it wrong. It means " you have been thrown off Pulpit by a loving parent to teach you to swim. And encouraged to eat Kimberlins who look sideways at you.[/p][/quote]NO no no that was all stopped when we joined weymouth, chesil beach

2:53pm Tue 25 Feb 14

craigbastow1@outlook.com says...

1Kimberlin wrote:
Funny how the town clerk to nearly a week to get the lower figure to the Borough yet he got Munro 1000% percent proposal in within 24 hours.
I wonder if it had anything to do with his {Munros} emails sent from his recent holiday threatening g to get the 1.99% thrown out when he got back. Cllr Rodney Wild the Boroughs former Dog Catcher told the audience that "as a pensioner I would pay the £3.00 per week extra that the 1000% increase would cost". Of course you would but most of us haven't got the luxury of A a large Naval Pension & B a Government Pension as well mate. Then we have Portland answer to Homer J Simpsom Kristopher Dutheridge Mr I ain't gotta clue a man who has no permanent address on Portland so does not Pay any Council Tax yet wants every one to stump up for hair-brained no hope schemes. As for Mr Despicable Denton -White I think John Thorner summed him up as the best value for money councillor Portland has as he juggles two jobs one as a councillor and the other as Underhills Village Idiot.
probably left early because he thought big john the crabber would get to the takeaway before anyone else........
[quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: Funny how the town clerk to nearly a week to get the lower figure to the Borough yet he got Munro 1000% percent proposal in within 24 hours. I wonder if it had anything to do with his {Munros} emails sent from his recent holiday threatening g to get the 1.99% thrown out when he got back. Cllr Rodney Wild the Boroughs former Dog Catcher told the audience that "as a pensioner I would pay the £3.00 per week extra that the 1000% increase would cost". Of course you would but most of us haven't got the luxury of A a large Naval Pension & B a Government Pension as well mate. Then we have Portland answer to Homer J Simpsom Kristopher Dutheridge Mr I ain't gotta clue a man who has no permanent address on Portland so does not Pay any Council Tax yet wants every one to stump up for hair-brained no hope schemes. As for Mr Despicable Denton -White I think John Thorner summed him up as the best value for money councillor Portland has as he juggles two jobs one as a councillor and the other as Underhills Village Idiot.[/p][/quote]probably left early because he thought big john the crabber would get to the takeaway before anyone else........ craigbastow1@outlook.com

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