Councillor quits over council tax row

Rachel Barton

Rachel Barton

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A COUNCILLOR has quit Portland Town Council amid a revolt over the 1,000 per cent precept proposal.

Rachel Barton is walking away from local politics ‘disillusioned’ and believes her fellow councillors should also stand down. Her resignation will prompt a by-election and nominations are being sought for candidates.

A move to increase the council tax precept by 1,000 per cent was scrapped this month following a backlash. Councillors instead agreed a rise of 1.99 per cent.

Mrs Barton said people became too ‘wrapped up’ in the 1,000 per cent figure and lost focus of what was trying to be achieved, to generate more money for the island.

She was behind a proposal to increase it by just over 40 per cent – but it was shot down by an angry crowd at a council meeting.

Mrs Barton said she could not see how the island could move forward and suggested all councillors resign so others can have a go.

She said: “I was very disappointed with people’s behaviour – some councillors and member of the public – at the council meetings.

“I joined the council to improve things and see the council be more proactive. It was me who pushed for the island caretaker.

“From the meetings it became very apparent that people didn’t want to make things better. I didn’t agree with 1,000 per cent but I thought there should be an increase.

“If this had been done correctly people would have understood the emphasis behind the ideas. People became too wrapped up in 1,000 per cent and failed to see the bigger picture. It became a bit of a war.

“From the attitude of the majority of people and the light this council has been seen in this whole sorry affair I feel that everyone should resign.”

Community worker Mrs Barton, who was co-opted onto the council in October 2012, added: “I’m proud to live here and I want to make things better.

“I’m not cut out to be a politician. I’m disillusioned with it.

“I will carry on doing what I can for Portland, but I don’t think my skin is thick enough to be a councillor. The whole thing has left a bitter taste.”

• How to stand for election to authority

PEOPLE interested in standing for the Tophill West seat vacated by Mrs Barton should obtain a nomination form from the Returning Officer David Clarke at Weymouth and Portland Borough Council.

They must be returned by March 14.

Polling day will be on May 22, the same date as Weymouth and Portland Borough Council and European Parliament elections.

Elections for the rest of Portland Town Council will take place according to schedule in May 2015.

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7:05am Wed 26 Feb 14

Weymouth Ex-pat says...

Rather than keep talking about one thousand per cent or forty per cent, can someone please explain what these figures mean in cash terms? How much, in pounds, would a one thousand per cent precept increase bills by? And how much would forty per cent equate to?
Rather than keep talking about one thousand per cent or forty per cent, can someone please explain what these figures mean in cash terms? How much, in pounds, would a one thousand per cent precept increase bills by? And how much would forty per cent equate to? Weymouth Ex-pat
  • Score: 3

7:37am Wed 26 Feb 14

Schrodinger's Cat says...

I think the figures were given in some of the early reports. I don't remember the exact amounts but it was something like an increase from £14 a year to £150 a year for a Band D property.
I think the figures were given in some of the early reports. I don't remember the exact amounts but it was something like an increase from £14 a year to £150 a year for a Band D property. Schrodinger's Cat
  • Score: 6

7:41am Wed 26 Feb 14

cosmick says...

Mrs Barton thank you for standing down, i hope the other members do the same. I have no doubt that you took on that roll for the benifit of PORTLAND, and i thank you for that.
At the prescent time the amount that the PTC wanted to raise the tax by was just silly. Its ok having dreams to do things but not with a place like PORTLAND where to be honest people could not afford to be part of the dream.
It would be nice to see others on the PTC, follow your example.
When the main goverment makes cuts to areas it is not the job of locals to get more money from the area that is affected but show the goverment up for what it is.
Agian thank you for taking on a thankless job, and then having the courage to stand down and give others a chance to improve things.
Mrs Barton thank you for standing down, i hope the other members do the same. I have no doubt that you took on that roll for the benifit of PORTLAND, and i thank you for that. At the prescent time the amount that the PTC wanted to raise the tax by was just silly. Its ok having dreams to do things but not with a place like PORTLAND where to be honest people could not afford to be part of the dream. It would be nice to see others on the PTC, follow your example. When the main goverment makes cuts to areas it is not the job of locals to get more money from the area that is affected but show the goverment up for what it is. Agian thank you for taking on a thankless job, and then having the courage to stand down and give others a chance to improve things. cosmick
  • Score: 12

7:56am Wed 26 Feb 14

Get a grip says...

Now all those that were critical can now stand for election.

Or will they all look to others to stand.
Now all those that were critical can now stand for election. Or will they all look to others to stand. Get a grip
  • Score: 9

10:03am Wed 26 Feb 14

Mike Maber says...

Weymouth Ex-pat wrote:
Rather than keep talking about one thousand per cent or forty per cent, can someone please explain what these figures mean in cash terms? How much, in pounds, would a one thousand per cent precept increase bills by? And how much would forty per cent equate to?
Excellent Weymouth ex-pat.
[quote][p][bold]Weymouth Ex-pat[/bold] wrote: Rather than keep talking about one thousand per cent or forty per cent, can someone please explain what these figures mean in cash terms? How much, in pounds, would a one thousand per cent precept increase bills by? And how much would forty per cent equate to?[/p][/quote]Excellent Weymouth ex-pat. Mike Maber
  • Score: 2

11:02am Wed 26 Feb 14

chesil beach says...

Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, , chesil beach
  • Score: 0

11:09am Wed 26 Feb 14

shy talk says...

Co-opted. Appointed to membership of a committee or other body by invitation of the existing members.

So Councillor Barton the people of Portland did not vote you on to the expensive anachronism of Portland Town Council.
Co-opted. Appointed to membership of a committee or other body by invitation of the existing members. So Councillor Barton the people of Portland did not vote you on to the expensive anachronism of Portland Town Council. shy talk
  • Score: 7

11:27am Wed 26 Feb 14

portland rebel says...

Mike Maber wrote:
Weymouth Ex-pat wrote:
Rather than keep talking about one thousand per cent or forty per cent, can someone please explain what these figures mean in cash terms? How much, in pounds, would a one thousand per cent precept increase bills by? And how much would forty per cent equate to?
Excellent Weymouth ex-pat.
it is not a matter of how much, the point is that we were/are being asked to pay a SECOND time for services that we already pay for and dont receive, why should we pay again would you ?
[quote][p][bold]Mike Maber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weymouth Ex-pat[/bold] wrote: Rather than keep talking about one thousand per cent or forty per cent, can someone please explain what these figures mean in cash terms? How much, in pounds, would a one thousand per cent precept increase bills by? And how much would forty per cent equate to?[/p][/quote]Excellent Weymouth ex-pat.[/p][/quote]it is not a matter of how much, the point is that we were/are being asked to pay a SECOND time for services that we already pay for and dont receive, why should we pay again would you ? portland rebel
  • Score: 9

12:00pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Wilbraham says...

Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.
Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted. Wilbraham
  • Score: 1

12:06pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Dorset stuff says...

£14............ a year........... what happens when something actually serious happens on Portland then?
£14............ a year........... what happens when something actually serious happens on Portland then? Dorset stuff
  • Score: 1

12:12pm Wed 26 Feb 14

IslandJim1 says...

chesil beach wrote:
Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,
I don't understand the role of the Portland Care taker, to whom a large (by local terms) salary is being paid, but as yet I can see no work done by this individual for the benefit of the local community. Plus why is this person, on a council salary, allowed to carry out private jobs during the working week, when he is presumably on council time? Seem's the council are trying to con money out the locals, but this lucky local is managing to con nearly all of it back.
[quote][p][bold]chesil beach[/bold] wrote: Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,[/p][/quote]I don't understand the role of the Portland Care taker, to whom a large (by local terms) salary is being paid, but as yet I can see no work done by this individual for the benefit of the local community. Plus why is this person, on a council salary, allowed to carry out private jobs during the working week, when he is presumably on council time? Seem's the council are trying to con money out the locals, but this lucky local is managing to con nearly all of it back. IslandJim1
  • Score: 0

12:16pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Wilbraham says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
£14............ a year........... what happens when something actually serious happens on Portland then?
I'm not quite sure what you call serious but we pay the County, Borough, Police and Fire service for all services. We pay PTC to employ a clerk and secretaries and to have a good chat once a month.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: £14............ a year........... what happens when something actually serious happens on Portland then?[/p][/quote]I'm not quite sure what you call serious but we pay the County, Borough, Police and Fire service for all services. We pay PTC to employ a clerk and secretaries and to have a good chat once a month. Wilbraham
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Wilbraham says...

IslandJim1 wrote:
chesil beach wrote:
Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


,
I don't understand the role of the Portland Care taker, to whom a large (by local terms) salary is being paid, but as yet I can see no work done by this individual for the benefit of the local community. Plus why is this person, on a council salary, allowed to carry out private jobs during the working week, when he is presumably on council time? Seem's the council are trying to con money out the locals, but this lucky local is managing to con nearly all of it back.
He is contracted by PTC not employed. He was given tasks by Mrs Barton before her resignation. What he does in his own time is up to him. unfortunately it wasn't thought through properly and now they are faced with a large bill (our money)l to take away the rubbish he has collected.
[quote][p][bold]IslandJim1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chesil beach[/bold] wrote: Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,[/p][/quote]I don't understand the role of the Portland Care taker, to whom a large (by local terms) salary is being paid, but as yet I can see no work done by this individual for the benefit of the local community. Plus why is this person, on a council salary, allowed to carry out private jobs during the working week, when he is presumably on council time? Seem's the council are trying to con money out the locals, but this lucky local is managing to con nearly all of it back.[/p][/quote]He is contracted by PTC not employed. He was given tasks by Mrs Barton before her resignation. What he does in his own time is up to him. unfortunately it wasn't thought through properly and now they are faced with a large bill (our money)l to take away the rubbish he has collected. Wilbraham
  • Score: 2

12:28pm Wed 26 Feb 14

IslandJim1 says...

Wilbraham wrote:
IslandJim1 wrote:
chesil beach wrote:
Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



,
I don't understand the role of the Portland Care taker, to whom a large (by local terms) salary is being paid, but as yet I can see no work done by this individual for the benefit of the local community. Plus why is this person, on a council salary, allowed to carry out private jobs during the working week, when he is presumably on council time? Seem's the council are trying to con money out the locals, but this lucky local is managing to con nearly all of it back.
He is contracted by PTC not employed. He was given tasks by Mrs Barton before her resignation. What he does in his own time is up to him. unfortunately it wasn't thought through properly and now they are faced with a large bill (our money)l to take away the rubbish he has collected.
Thanks for the clarification, like I said, wasn't fully understanding the role, and hadn't managed to wade through all the comments and here say to find out what the real duties are. By the sounds of it then the Care taker role does not strictly exist, and rather getting quotes for works and picking the best like any normal person would do, the council jumped ahead and appointed someone to carry out an unmeasured amount of work and are now being stung for it. Figures.
[quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IslandJim1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chesil beach[/bold] wrote: Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,[/p][/quote]I don't understand the role of the Portland Care taker, to whom a large (by local terms) salary is being paid, but as yet I can see no work done by this individual for the benefit of the local community. Plus why is this person, on a council salary, allowed to carry out private jobs during the working week, when he is presumably on council time? Seem's the council are trying to con money out the locals, but this lucky local is managing to con nearly all of it back.[/p][/quote]He is contracted by PTC not employed. He was given tasks by Mrs Barton before her resignation. What he does in his own time is up to him. unfortunately it wasn't thought through properly and now they are faced with a large bill (our money)l to take away the rubbish he has collected.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the clarification, like I said, wasn't fully understanding the role, and hadn't managed to wade through all the comments and here say to find out what the real duties are. By the sounds of it then the Care taker role does not strictly exist, and rather getting quotes for works and picking the best like any normal person would do, the council jumped ahead and appointed someone to carry out an unmeasured amount of work and are now being stung for it. Figures. IslandJim1
  • Score: 3

1:58pm Wed 26 Feb 14

cosmick says...

With regards the caretakers pay, (if members of the portland community had gone to PTC MEETINGS they could of had there say) £10.00 an hour is very cheap for someone self employed.
Now as someone said in an comment WHO IS GOING TO THROW THERE HAT IN THE RING AND STAND.
Also we need others to follow and resign there post on PTC.
We need a fully elected council with the old lot gone.
RE ELECT IN MAY.
With regards the caretakers pay, (if members of the portland community had gone to PTC MEETINGS they could of had there say) £10.00 an hour is very cheap for someone self employed. Now as someone said in an comment WHO IS GOING TO THROW THERE HAT IN THE RING AND STAND. Also we need others to follow and resign there post on PTC. We need a fully elected council with the old lot gone. RE ELECT IN MAY. cosmick
  • Score: 5

2:08pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Wilbraham says...

cosmick wrote:
With regards the caretakers pay, (if members of the portland community had gone to PTC MEETINGS they could of had there say) £10.00 an hour is very cheap for someone self employed.
Now as someone said in an comment WHO IS GOING TO THROW THERE HAT IN THE RING AND STAND.
Also we need others to follow and resign there post on PTC.
We need a fully elected council with the old lot gone.
RE ELECT IN MAY.
I'm told that it would take an act of Parliament to change the date so it looks as if they are there until May 2015
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: With regards the caretakers pay, (if members of the portland community had gone to PTC MEETINGS they could of had there say) £10.00 an hour is very cheap for someone self employed. Now as someone said in an comment WHO IS GOING TO THROW THERE HAT IN THE RING AND STAND. Also we need others to follow and resign there post on PTC. We need a fully elected council with the old lot gone. RE ELECT IN MAY.[/p][/quote]I'm told that it would take an act of Parliament to change the date so it looks as if they are there until May 2015 Wilbraham
  • Score: 1

2:56pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Newground says...

Let's not ignore the real issue here. We have lost one Councillor and so be it. But Tim Munro MUST STAY!

Everybody needs a Beard!

We also need his bearded Mini-Me son-in-law to STAY. Any other Munros, with or without beards, MUST STAY.

Genius like this comes along only once in a generation.

And the little white haired bandy legged fella who swears MUST STAY. Who else will protect Portlanders from storms and marauders? We need all the tough guys we can get. And that one is the toughest of the lot.
Let's not ignore the real issue here. We have lost one Councillor and so be it. But Tim Munro MUST STAY! Everybody needs a Beard! We also need his bearded Mini-Me son-in-law to STAY. Any other Munros, with or without beards, MUST STAY. Genius like this comes along only once in a generation. And the little white haired bandy legged fella who swears MUST STAY. Who else will protect Portlanders from storms and marauders? We need all the tough guys we can get. And that one is the toughest of the lot. Newground
  • Score: -6

3:11pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Weymouth Ex-pat says...

Wilbraham wrote:
Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.
Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp.
[quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.[/p][/quote]Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp. Weymouth Ex-pat
  • Score: 2

3:42pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Wilbraham says...

Weymouth Ex-pat wrote:
Wilbraham wrote:
Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.
Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp.
If someone had said why and what they wanted it for maybe we would have accepted it. A campaign could have been done in our free paper which is distributed all over Portland. But they asked for money and then were trying to make up ways in which they could spend it. They are so out of touch that they thought they could sneak a huge rise in and no one would notice.
[quote][p][bold]Weymouth Ex-pat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.[/p][/quote]Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp.[/p][/quote]If someone had said why and what they wanted it for maybe we would have accepted it. A campaign could have been done in our free paper which is distributed all over Portland. But they asked for money and then were trying to make up ways in which they could spend it. They are so out of touch that they thought they could sneak a huge rise in and no one would notice. Wilbraham
  • Score: 3

4:01pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Newground says...

Wilbraham wrote:
Weymouth Ex-pat wrote:
Wilbraham wrote:
Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.
Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp.
If someone had said why and what they wanted it for maybe we would have accepted it. A campaign could have been done in our free paper which is distributed all over Portland. But they asked for money and then were trying to make up ways in which they could spend it. They are so out of touch that they thought they could sneak a huge rise in and no one would notice.
But Tim Munro DID explain it!

There were going to be lollipop ladies, a shuttle bus service, free fairy cakes for kiddies on a Fridays and a Max Bygraves swingalong on Satuuday nights at the Jubliee Hall for over-80s (kindly sponsored by Red House). There was going to be koom-bye-ah sung by hordes of schoolchildren as visitors approached the island. Flowers would grow faster. Birds would sing sweeter. Tim had it all planned. He said so. We could have been CON-TEN-DERS.

Two thousand years ago another bearded genius was unfairly maligned. Forgive them Tim, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO!
[quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weymouth Ex-pat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.[/p][/quote]Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp.[/p][/quote]If someone had said why and what they wanted it for maybe we would have accepted it. A campaign could have been done in our free paper which is distributed all over Portland. But they asked for money and then were trying to make up ways in which they could spend it. They are so out of touch that they thought they could sneak a huge rise in and no one would notice.[/p][/quote]But Tim Munro DID explain it! There were going to be lollipop ladies, a shuttle bus service, free fairy cakes for kiddies on a Fridays and a Max Bygraves swingalong on Satuuday nights at the Jubliee Hall for over-80s (kindly sponsored by Red House). There was going to be koom-bye-ah sung by hordes of schoolchildren as visitors approached the island. Flowers would grow faster. Birds would sing sweeter. Tim had it all planned. He said so. We could have been CON-TEN-DERS. Two thousand years ago another bearded genius was unfairly maligned. Forgive them Tim, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO! Newground
  • Score: 5

5:01pm Wed 26 Feb 14

common cence says...

chesil beach wrote:
Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,
Well said , To many portlanders people making FOOLS of portland people Get rid of the lot of them,
[quote][p][bold]chesil beach[/bold] wrote: Rachel started all this by bringing in the so called island caretaker WE pay w.p.b.c. to take care of portland , You cocked up Rachel you could not get your own way so you jacked in and go have a sulk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,[/p][/quote]Well said , To many portlanders people making FOOLS of portland people Get rid of the lot of them, common cence
  • Score: 6

5:35pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Genghis says...

shy talk wrote:
Co-opted. Appointed to membership of a committee or other body by invitation of the existing members.

So Councillor Barton the people of Portland did not vote you on to the expensive anachronism of Portland Town Council.
And the reason for that, is that there were no other people willing to stand. Do you really want to run an election where there is only one candidate? What a waste of money that would be, Hence the system to allow people to be co-opted to fill the vacancies on the council.
[quote][p][bold]shy talk[/bold] wrote: Co-opted. Appointed to membership of a committee or other body by invitation of the existing members. So Councillor Barton the people of Portland did not vote you on to the expensive anachronism of Portland Town Council.[/p][/quote]And the reason for that, is that there were no other people willing to stand. Do you really want to run an election where there is only one candidate? What a waste of money that would be, Hence the system to allow people to be co-opted to fill the vacancies on the council. Genghis
  • Score: 0

5:49pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Senga2013 says...

Newground wrote:
Wilbraham wrote:
Weymouth Ex-pat wrote:
Wilbraham wrote:
Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.
Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp.
If someone had said why and what they wanted it for maybe we would have accepted it. A campaign could have been done in our free paper which is distributed all over Portland. But they asked for money and then were trying to make up ways in which they could spend it. They are so out of touch that they thought they could sneak a huge rise in and no one would notice.
But Tim Munro DID explain it!

There were going to be lollipop ladies, a shuttle bus service, free fairy cakes for kiddies on a Fridays and a Max Bygraves swingalong on Satuuday nights at the Jubliee Hall for over-80s (kindly sponsored by Red House). There was going to be koom-bye-ah sung by hordes of schoolchildren as visitors approached the island. Flowers would grow faster. Birds would sing sweeter. Tim had it all planned. He said so. We could have been CON-TEN-DERS.

Two thousand years ago another bearded genius was unfairly maligned. Forgive them Tim, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO!
Tim voted against the Lollipop Service...But -thanks to Helen Toft and for the very few campaigners- they are still in duty and working for our children's safety!

I have a good idea...
....cut the councilor's wages with a minimum of 50% and we will have enough money to make Portland a much better place!
We want our library and proper bus service back!!!
Look at old photographs on the web, what did Portland look like a 100 years ago....you will be surprised! Adults and children wore tidy clean clothes, pretty little shops which where all family businesses, working railways... etc.

And what is left for us today?

Teenage mums pushing buggies, parents who have never had a job before, everyone following the latest 'Fashion Trends', closed shops, run down houses and flats... but chear-up we have an 'amazing' Tesco's in Easton so no other businesses can survive.

Now 99% of Portlanders leave the island for work, but 100 years ago most would not leave the island in their whole life, Portland was self sustainable.

Does anyone think here, or are we just staring like sheep, following our given directions.
[quote][p][bold]Newground[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weymouth Ex-pat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.[/p][/quote]Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp.[/p][/quote]If someone had said why and what they wanted it for maybe we would have accepted it. A campaign could have been done in our free paper which is distributed all over Portland. But they asked for money and then were trying to make up ways in which they could spend it. They are so out of touch that they thought they could sneak a huge rise in and no one would notice.[/p][/quote]But Tim Munro DID explain it! There were going to be lollipop ladies, a shuttle bus service, free fairy cakes for kiddies on a Fridays and a Max Bygraves swingalong on Satuuday nights at the Jubliee Hall for over-80s (kindly sponsored by Red House). There was going to be koom-bye-ah sung by hordes of schoolchildren as visitors approached the island. Flowers would grow faster. Birds would sing sweeter. Tim had it all planned. He said so. We could have been CON-TEN-DERS. Two thousand years ago another bearded genius was unfairly maligned. Forgive them Tim, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO![/p][/quote]Tim voted against the Lollipop Service...But -thanks to Helen Toft and for the very few campaigners- they are still in duty and working for our children's safety! I have a good idea... ....cut the councilor's wages with a minimum of 50% and we will have enough money to make Portland a much better place! We want our library and proper bus service back!!! Look at old photographs on the web, what did Portland look like a 100 years ago....you will be surprised! Adults and children wore tidy clean clothes, pretty little shops which where all family businesses, working railways... etc. And what is left for us today? Teenage mums pushing buggies, parents who have never had a job before, everyone following the latest 'Fashion Trends', closed shops, run down houses and flats... but chear-up we have an 'amazing' Tesco's in Easton so no other businesses can survive. Now 99% of Portlanders leave the island for work, but 100 years ago most would not leave the island in their whole life, Portland was self sustainable. Does anyone think here, or are we just staring like sheep, following our given directions. Senga2013
  • Score: 1

5:50pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Senga2013 says...

Tim voted against the Lollipop Service...But -thanks to Helen Toft and for the very few campaigners- they are still in duty and working for our children's safety!

I have a good idea...
....cut the councilor's wages with a minimum of 50% and we will have enough money to make Portland a much better place!
We want our library and proper bus service back!!!
Look at old photographs on the web, what did Portland look like a 100 years ago....you will be surprised! Adults and children wore tidy clean clothes, pretty little shops which where all family businesses, working railways... etc.

And what is left for us today?

Teenage mums pushing buggies, parents who have never had a job before, everyone following the latest 'Fashion Trends', closed shops, run down houses and flats... but chear-up we have an 'amazing' Tesco's in Easton so no other businesses can survive.

Now 99% of Portlanders leave the island for work, but 100 years ago most would not leave the island in their whole life, Portland was self sustainable.

Does anyone think here, or are we just staring like sheep, following our given directions.
Tim voted against the Lollipop Service...But -thanks to Helen Toft and for the very few campaigners- they are still in duty and working for our children's safety! I have a good idea... ....cut the councilor's wages with a minimum of 50% and we will have enough money to make Portland a much better place! We want our library and proper bus service back!!! Look at old photographs on the web, what did Portland look like a 100 years ago....you will be surprised! Adults and children wore tidy clean clothes, pretty little shops which where all family businesses, working railways... etc. And what is left for us today? Teenage mums pushing buggies, parents who have never had a job before, everyone following the latest 'Fashion Trends', closed shops, run down houses and flats... but chear-up we have an 'amazing' Tesco's in Easton so no other businesses can survive. Now 99% of Portlanders leave the island for work, but 100 years ago most would not leave the island in their whole life, Portland was self sustainable. Does anyone think here, or are we just staring like sheep, following our given directions. Senga2013
  • Score: 1

7:22pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Atilla says...

Just a thought.............
are school crossing patrols who work on a one way street paid on a pro-rata basis?
Just a thought............. are school crossing patrols who work on a one way street paid on a pro-rata basis? Atilla
  • Score: -2

8:45pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Foursite says...

Rachel I was saddened to see you resign, I know the work you have done
for Portland, inparticular Southwell where you live.You have fought
for and got the kissing gates at Southwell, to stop the horses and
riders from using the public footpaths at Southwell.

The caretaker from southwell has indeed been tidying up the Southwell area under your guidance.and helped with skips from a Southwell business man.

It is very important that all wards should have a councillor living in
that ward that has the same passion and drive you have for your area,and
showing the way to get things done.

I supported your 42% and having lived and worked in different parts of the
country, would have willingly paid more fore living in such a beautiful
part of the world.t £7 per year would not have been a big deal to me or my family.

You all went about this the wrong way allowing yourselves to be bullied
by one particular family and their Jack Russel,You have done the right
thing Rachel Barton as you are now the only one left with any integrity from
that sorry lot.
Tthe chances are you will become an elected councillor if you wish to stand when the time comes. I think you understand local politics alright

I am not from Southwell and unable to stand for election because of debt
problems leaving myself open to being the next corrupt councillor.
Perhaps the biggest fear of any HONEST candidate.

Not sure what Southwell or Portland will do without you.X
Rachel I was saddened to see you resign, I know the work you have done for Portland, inparticular Southwell where you live.You have fought for and got the kissing gates at Southwell, to stop the horses and riders from using the public footpaths at Southwell. The caretaker from southwell has indeed been tidying up the Southwell area under your guidance.and helped with skips from a Southwell business man. It is very important that all wards should have a councillor living in that ward that has the same passion and drive you have for your area,and showing the way to get things done. I supported your 42% and having lived and worked in different parts of the country, would have willingly paid more fore living in such a beautiful part of the world.t £7 per year would not have been a big deal to me or my family. You all went about this the wrong way allowing yourselves to be bullied by one particular family and their Jack Russel,You have done the right thing Rachel Barton as you are now the only one left with any integrity from that sorry lot. Tthe chances are you will become an elected councillor if you wish to stand when the time comes. I think you understand local politics alright I am not from Southwell and unable to stand for election because of debt problems leaving myself open to being the next corrupt councillor. Perhaps the biggest fear of any HONEST candidate. Not sure what Southwell or Portland will do without you.X Foursite
  • Score: 16

8:47pm Wed 26 Feb 14

portland pirate says...

Well what a lot of of small minded people read the echo our is it only the ones the comment ?

If we had Richard paisley , Margaret Lester and Rachael Barton on the council we would not need the other ten.

Give power to portland council as at the moment they don't even have a say .
Well what a lot of of small minded people read the echo our is it only the ones the comment ? If we had Richard paisley , Margaret Lester and Rachael Barton on the council we would not need the other ten. Give power to portland council as at the moment they don't even have a say . portland pirate
  • Score: 2

8:49pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Tillydog says...

Foursite wrote:
Rachel I was saddened to see you resign, I know the work you have done for Portland, inparticular Southwell where you live.You have fought for and got the kissing gates at Southwell, to stop the horses and riders from using the public footpaths at Southwell. The caretaker from southwell has indeed been tidying up the Southwell area under your guidance.and helped with skips from a Southwell business man. It is very important that all wards should have a councillor living in that ward that has the same passion and drive you have for your area,and showing the way to get things done. I supported your 42% and having lived and worked in different parts of the country, would have willingly paid more fore living in such a beautiful part of the world.t £7 per year would not have been a big deal to me or my family. You all went about this the wrong way allowing yourselves to be bullied by one particular family and their Jack Russel,You have done the right thing Rachel Barton as you are now the only one left with any integrity from that sorry lot. Tthe chances are you will become an elected councillor if you wish to stand when the time comes. I think you understand local politics alright I am not from Southwell and unable to stand for election because of debt problems leaving myself open to being the next corrupt councillor. Perhaps the biggest fear of any HONEST candidate. Not sure what Southwell or Portland will do without you.X
Jack who? sorry Foursite you are talking a wrong sort of animal
[quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: Rachel I was saddened to see you resign, I know the work you have done for Portland, inparticular Southwell where you live.You have fought for and got the kissing gates at Southwell, to stop the horses and riders from using the public footpaths at Southwell. The caretaker from southwell has indeed been tidying up the Southwell area under your guidance.and helped with skips from a Southwell business man. It is very important that all wards should have a councillor living in that ward that has the same passion and drive you have for your area,and showing the way to get things done. I supported your 42% and having lived and worked in different parts of the country, would have willingly paid more fore living in such a beautiful part of the world.t £7 per year would not have been a big deal to me or my family. You all went about this the wrong way allowing yourselves to be bullied by one particular family and their Jack Russel,You have done the right thing Rachel Barton as you are now the only one left with any integrity from that sorry lot. Tthe chances are you will become an elected councillor if you wish to stand when the time comes. I think you understand local politics alright I am not from Southwell and unable to stand for election because of debt problems leaving myself open to being the next corrupt councillor. Perhaps the biggest fear of any HONEST candidate. Not sure what Southwell or Portland will do without you.X[/p][/quote]Jack who? sorry Foursite you are talking a wrong sort of animal Tillydog
  • Score: 12

8:58pm Wed 26 Feb 14

portland maid says...

I watched people ask questions re the caretaker and your reaction Mrs Barton, you shook your head and said "I dont know" to your colleague and gave no reply at all to the public. If you fought for the caretaker in the first place, I hope he didnt hear that you didnt support him or know the detail of his employ. I have met you more than once and find you to be a prickly and rather rude person. I dont doubt you get jobs done, I have also seen the evidence of that, but your attitude sucks and clouds the good deeds you have done. I think you are right and everyone should resign and hope for re election - with a bit of luck you could continue and help the Island recover and grow in the future, but I think you need to take stock of what is acceptable.
I watched people ask questions re the caretaker and your reaction Mrs Barton, you shook your head and said "I dont know" to your colleague and gave no reply at all to the public. If you fought for the caretaker in the first place, I hope he didnt hear that you didnt support him or know the detail of his employ. I have met you more than once and find you to be a prickly and rather rude person. I dont doubt you get jobs done, I have also seen the evidence of that, but your attitude sucks and clouds the good deeds you have done. I think you are right and everyone should resign and hope for re election - with a bit of luck you could continue and help the Island recover and grow in the future, but I think you need to take stock of what is acceptable. portland maid
  • Score: 4

10:42pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Rocksalt says...

Senga2013 wrote:
Newground wrote:
Wilbraham wrote:
Weymouth Ex-pat wrote:
Wilbraham wrote:
Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.
Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp.
If someone had said why and what they wanted it for maybe we would have accepted it. A campaign could have been done in our free paper which is distributed all over Portland. But they asked for money and then were trying to make up ways in which they could spend it. They are so out of touch that they thought they could sneak a huge rise in and no one would notice.
But Tim Munro DID explain it!

There were going to be lollipop ladies, a shuttle bus service, free fairy cakes for kiddies on a Fridays and a Max Bygraves swingalong on Satuuday nights at the Jubliee Hall for over-80s (kindly sponsored by Red House). There was going to be koom-bye-ah sung by hordes of schoolchildren as visitors approached the island. Flowers would grow faster. Birds would sing sweeter. Tim had it all planned. He said so. We could have been CON-TEN-DERS.

Two thousand years ago another bearded genius was unfairly maligned. Forgive them Tim, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO!
Tim voted against the Lollipop Service...But -thanks to Helen Toft and for the very few campaigners- they are still in duty and working for our children's safety!

I have a good idea...
....cut the councilor's wages with a minimum of 50% and we will have enough money to make Portland a much better place!
We want our library and proper bus service back!!!
Look at old photographs on the web, what did Portland look like a 100 years ago....you will be surprised! Adults and children wore tidy clean clothes, pretty little shops which where all family businesses, working railways... etc.

And what is left for us today?

Teenage mums pushing buggies, parents who have never had a job before, everyone following the latest 'Fashion Trends', closed shops, run down houses and flats... but chear-up we have an 'amazing' Tesco's in Easton so no other businesses can survive.

Now 99% of Portlanders leave the island for work, but 100 years ago most would not leave the island in their whole life, Portland was self sustainable.

Does anyone think here, or are we just staring like sheep, following our given directions.
The reality is that Portland will probably never be self sustaining again, at least not in terms of employment. Not unless the population reduces to levels last seen in the early 1800s.
[quote][p][bold]Senga2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newground[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weymouth Ex-pat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilbraham[/bold] wrote: Last year the precept for PTC was £14.50 for Band D over and above the Borough, County, Police and Fire parts of the council Tax. You can work out what % increase from that but as it's paid in 10 payments it was £1.45 and was going to be £15 per payment. 40% would have been and extra £5 or .50p a payment but the real trouble was that there was no consultation as to what it was for. We were being told what we wanted.[/p][/quote]Thanks, Wilbraham. That gives the issue a bit more context. I can see why 1,000% was barmy, but given that 40% equates to just 50p per month I'm surprised that was thrown out. It's less than the cost of a 1st class stamp.[/p][/quote]If someone had said why and what they wanted it for maybe we would have accepted it. A campaign could have been done in our free paper which is distributed all over Portland. But they asked for money and then were trying to make up ways in which they could spend it. They are so out of touch that they thought they could sneak a huge rise in and no one would notice.[/p][/quote]But Tim Munro DID explain it! There were going to be lollipop ladies, a shuttle bus service, free fairy cakes for kiddies on a Fridays and a Max Bygraves swingalong on Satuuday nights at the Jubliee Hall for over-80s (kindly sponsored by Red House). There was going to be koom-bye-ah sung by hordes of schoolchildren as visitors approached the island. Flowers would grow faster. Birds would sing sweeter. Tim had it all planned. He said so. We could have been CON-TEN-DERS. Two thousand years ago another bearded genius was unfairly maligned. Forgive them Tim, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO![/p][/quote]Tim voted against the Lollipop Service...But -thanks to Helen Toft and for the very few campaigners- they are still in duty and working for our children's safety! I have a good idea... ....cut the councilor's wages with a minimum of 50% and we will have enough money to make Portland a much better place! We want our library and proper bus service back!!! Look at old photographs on the web, what did Portland look like a 100 years ago....you will be surprised! Adults and children wore tidy clean clothes, pretty little shops which where all family businesses, working railways... etc. And what is left for us today? Teenage mums pushing buggies, parents who have never had a job before, everyone following the latest 'Fashion Trends', closed shops, run down houses and flats... but chear-up we have an 'amazing' Tesco's in Easton so no other businesses can survive. Now 99% of Portlanders leave the island for work, but 100 years ago most would not leave the island in their whole life, Portland was self sustainable. Does anyone think here, or are we just staring like sheep, following our given directions.[/p][/quote]The reality is that Portland will probably never be self sustaining again, at least not in terms of employment. Not unless the population reduces to levels last seen in the early 1800s. Rocksalt
  • Score: 1

10:18am Thu 27 Feb 14

cosmick says...

The truth is to get changes on PORTLAND you need good people to stand up and be counted. Where are you, there is nothing that cannot be done, it needs the willpower of a few and the support of the many. Where are you?
Someone up on PORTLAND has to start the ball rolling or the councillors will be putting there fingers up to you all, that will be what you deserve.
YOUR MOVE!
The truth is to get changes on PORTLAND you need good people to stand up and be counted. Where are you, there is nothing that cannot be done, it needs the willpower of a few and the support of the many. Where are you? Someone up on PORTLAND has to start the ball rolling or the councillors will be putting there fingers up to you all, that will be what you deserve. YOUR MOVE! cosmick
  • Score: 1

11:34am Thu 27 Feb 14

bandit_300 says...

Wrong person who walked really but she did a balls up during the whole process and only came out with an alternative after the initial 1000% got booted aside. Sad really as she did a good bit for Portland and i would of preferred other rats to leave the sinking ship!! Whatever council or tom dick and harry the whole island is being ruined by developers,the quarry companies,to many horses going where they shouldnt and fly tippers so it is what it is unfortunately a mess.
Wrong person who walked really but she did a balls up during the whole process and only came out with an alternative after the initial 1000% got booted aside. Sad really as she did a good bit for Portland and i would of preferred other rats to leave the sinking ship!! Whatever council or tom dick and harry the whole island is being ruined by developers,the quarry companies,to many horses going where they shouldnt and fly tippers so it is what it is unfortunately a mess. bandit_300
  • Score: 1

2:09pm Thu 27 Feb 14

radiator says...

bandit_300 wrote:
Wrong person who walked really but she did a balls up during the whole process and only came out with an alternative after the initial 1000% got booted aside. Sad really as she did a good bit for Portland and i would of preferred other rats to leave the sinking ship!! Whatever council or tom dick and harry the whole island is being ruined by developers,the quarry companies,to many horses going where they shouldnt and fly tippers so it is what it is unfortunately a mess.
I have got to agree with you on your comments, Rachael has been involved with numerous projects on Portland but unfortunately I think she was swept along with the rest when it came to the vote. Dont forget she and the rest of the Councillors were manipulated by bully boy Munro who lived up to his reputation.Lets not forget Les Ames who also has done well for Portland and will be retiring soon as mayor,still we will have a very well liked man taking the reins as mayor wont we?
It just go's to show how bright the council were for if they had slipped a tenner increase on the tax I doubt if many people would have bothered to have turned out to complain, but now their bloods up they will be looking very closely at any council meeting.
[quote][p][bold]bandit_300[/bold] wrote: Wrong person who walked really but she did a balls up during the whole process and only came out with an alternative after the initial 1000% got booted aside. Sad really as she did a good bit for Portland and i would of preferred other rats to leave the sinking ship!! Whatever council or tom dick and harry the whole island is being ruined by developers,the quarry companies,to many horses going where they shouldnt and fly tippers so it is what it is unfortunately a mess.[/p][/quote]I have got to agree with you on your comments, Rachael has been involved with numerous projects on Portland but unfortunately I think she was swept along with the rest when it came to the vote. Dont forget she and the rest of the Councillors were manipulated by bully boy Munro who lived up to his reputation.Lets not forget Les Ames who also has done well for Portland and will be retiring soon as mayor,still we will have a very well liked man taking the reins as mayor wont we? It just go's to show how bright the council were for if they had slipped a tenner increase on the tax I doubt if many people would have bothered to have turned out to complain, but now their bloods up they will be looking very closely at any council meeting. radiator
  • Score: -2

10:48pm Thu 27 Feb 14

popsiebabes says...

After reading the comments here , why would anyone want to help represent Portlanders?
After reading the comments here , why would anyone want to help represent Portlanders? popsiebabes
  • Score: -1

11:52pm Thu 27 Feb 14

david_divenghy2.1 says...

Give her some cream of victim, a couple of mewling liberal tossers and a bible of FAT western woman excuses.

Ta ta fat arse...i bet i will see you running ...sorry wallowing in the next PINK Cancer research race that hates men

Wimmin power...hahahahahaha
haha!!!!
Give her some cream of victim, a couple of mewling liberal tossers and a bible of FAT western woman excuses. Ta ta fat arse...i bet i will see you running ...sorry wallowing in the next PINK Cancer research race that hates men Wimmin power...hahahahahaha haha!!!! david_divenghy2.1
  • Score: -9

8:01am Fri 28 Feb 14

jjlad2 says...

david_divenghy2.1 wrote:
Give her some cream of victim, a couple of mewling liberal tossers and a bible of FAT western woman excuses. Ta ta fat arse...i bet i will see you running ...sorry wallowing in the next PINK Cancer research race that hates men Wimmin power...hahahahahaha haha!!!!
And you want us to support UKIP with a venamous tongue like that, i believe you and politics should stay as far apart as possible.
[quote][p][bold]david_divenghy2.1[/bold] wrote: Give her some cream of victim, a couple of mewling liberal tossers and a bible of FAT western woman excuses. Ta ta fat arse...i bet i will see you running ...sorry wallowing in the next PINK Cancer research race that hates men Wimmin power...hahahahahaha haha!!!![/p][/quote]And you want us to support UKIP with a venamous tongue like that, i believe you and politics should stay as far apart as possible. jjlad2
  • Score: 1

10:18am Fri 28 Feb 14

Nomalice says...

Rachel Barton's resignation is a welcome development in this Precept Saga.
Now if only the other co-opted members would do the honourable thing and follow her lead, the elected group, who disgraced themselves,by ignoring the electorate, would have no option ,but to resign.

I believe Mrs Barton was sincere in what she was trying to achieve.However like the others, she is "out of touch" with reality, and the struggles of the majority of the electorate, trying to make ends meet.

All sorts of figures have been bandied about. Some, deliberately disguised as "the price of a pint , Band D etc., etc.." None of those proposing to dip our pockets, said 

"It is only the amount of money the law says you need to live on per week"

"It is only equivalent to a weeks old age pension for many"

"It is only what councillors spend on a night out".

Give us a break, resign en masse, and save us all from the dreaded precept.
Every little helps.

As regards the disgusting personal attack printed above; I believe that behaviour , whether by a councillor, or anyone else, has no place here. An apology and retraction should be printed immediately.
Rachel Barton's resignation is a welcome development in this Precept Saga. Now if only the other co-opted members would do the honourable thing and follow her lead, the elected group, who disgraced themselves,by ignoring the electorate, would have no option ,but to resign. I believe Mrs Barton was sincere in what she was trying to achieve.However like the others, she is "out of touch" with reality, and the struggles of the majority of the electorate, trying to make ends meet. All sorts of figures have been bandied about. Some, deliberately disguised as "the price of a pint , Band D etc., etc.." None of those proposing to dip our pockets, said  "It is only the amount of money the law says you need to live on per week" "It is only equivalent to a weeks old age pension for many" "It is only what councillors spend on a night out". Give us a break, resign en masse, and save us all from the dreaded precept. Every little helps. As regards the disgusting personal attack printed above; I believe that behaviour , whether by a councillor, or anyone else, has no place here. An apology and retraction should be printed immediately. Nomalice
  • Score: 8

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