Single mortuary for all of Dorset as county council terminates contract

Dorset Echo: IMPACT: Dorset County Hospital, Dorchester IMPACT: Dorset County Hospital, Dorchester

GRIEVING families will face having to travel to the other side of Dorset to say farewell to loved ones in the latest round of cost-cutting initiatives, the Echo can reveal.

Dorset County Council, which pays Dorset County Hospital for mortuary services, has terminated its contract in order to establish a single mortuary for the entire county in Boscombe.

There are fears that the move could prevent those who live to the far west of the county being able to visit their loved ones for a final time because of the distance.

It has provoked outrage amongst funeral directors, who say it will have a ‘distressing’ impact on grieving families.

A spokesman for the Wessex Funeral Directors Association, which represents independent funeral businesses in Dorset, said: “We feel Dorset County Council has not given any consideration to the welfare of the bereaved, who may find themselves having to travel vast distances to identify or visit their loved ones.”

He added that the mortuary and bereavement services team at DCH, which carries out 500 post-mortems a year, has a ‘very good record of compassion and efficiency’.

The spokesman added: “We feel that the move to Boscombe will not achieve more efficiency, quite the opposite in fact, and savings, if any, will be negligible.”

Dorchester town and West Dorset District Councillor Alistair Chisholm said the move would be ‘unfortunate and inconvenient’ for grieving families.

He added: “If it saves money then that is something we do need to look at, but relatives must have a right to see the body if they wish. It’s just another squeeze on public services.”

A hospital source said he was concerned about the announcement.

He said: “The mortuary service at DCH gives a lot to the community. It really helps some people to grieve, especially if the death was sudden.

“The staff do reconstruction work so the loved ones can see them for one last time. Will that service be available at the new location? It really raises a lot of worrying questions.”

It is understood that those who die on wards at DCH will remain in the mortuary there, but those who are brought in from the community in circumstances where post-mortems need to be carried out to find out the cause of death, will be taken to Boscombe.

Three jobs are believed to be at risk, although it is not known if the posts will be transferred to the new location.

Head of Legal and Democratic Services at Dorset County Council, Jonathan Mair: “As part of merging the East and West Dorset Coroners’ areas into one for the whole county, we are working in partnership with Bournemouth Borough Council and the Borough of Poole to use one purpose-built mortuary owned and run by Bournemouth Borough Council. We have therefore notified Dorset County Hospital that we will be terminating our existing mortuary services contract with them.”

Mr Mair said the merger grew from an ‘opportunity’ following the retirement of former West Dorset Coroner Michael Johnston and added that the move made ‘financial sense’.

He said: “The mortuary would never turn families away, but there is an encouragement for people to visit their loved ones at funeral homes rather than the mortuary because it is such a clinical environment.”

He added that the move is unlikely to affect where inquests will be held.

Council closes contract

A spokesperson for Dorset County Hospital NHS Foundation Trust said: “We have been given notice by Dorset County Council that they are terminating their agreement with us for the provision of mortuary services.

“The council has made it clear that their decision to terminate the arrangement does not reflect any dissatisfaction with the quality of service provided by Dorset County Hospital NHS Foundation Trust.

“It is simply that there is a need to work more effectively and to achieve savings by working with the other local authorities with a shared responsibility for the coroner’s service in Dorset.

“We are currently looking at what this change will mean for the Trust.”

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6:32am Thu 6 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Sometimes a service offered is more important than money. This is one of those services. Now we see that some people in charge of keep cutting cutting cutting have no compation at all.
Shamefull choice of cutting a public service when people are at there lowest point in life.
Sometimes a service offered is more important than money. This is one of those services. Now we see that some people in charge of keep cutting cutting cutting have no compation at all. Shamefull choice of cutting a public service when people are at there lowest point in life. cosmick
  • Score: 67

7:09am Thu 6 Mar 14

burtin says...

More cuts more damage to the community how about a few cuts with the Councillors we have far too many what with County, West Dorset and Town surely these could all amalgamate that would make quite a big saving.
We will all look forward to the next cut or could that be the next big spend? more likely the latter. Bazza
More cuts more damage to the community how about a few cuts with the Councillors we have far too many what with County, West Dorset and Town surely these could all amalgamate that would make quite a big saving. We will all look forward to the next cut or could that be the next big spend? more likely the latter. Bazza burtin
  • Score: 33

9:07am Thu 6 Mar 14

Dont JustSitThereVote says...

Surely this is some kind of sick joke, something has to be done to stop this. When will officials who sit in their ivory towers actually make a decision based on the needs of others and not just to save money and enforce more misery on our population? Again through the greed/incompetence of others we pay the price.

The Team at DCH are needed to continue providing this local service!
Surely this is some kind of sick joke, something has to be done to stop this. When will officials who sit in their ivory towers actually make a decision based on the needs of others and not just to save money and enforce more misery on our population? Again through the greed/incompetence of others we pay the price. The Team at DCH are needed to continue providing this local service! Dont JustSitThereVote
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9:26am Thu 6 Mar 14

Dorset Boy says...

Words fail me as to the un-compassionate, idiotic money skimping morons that sit in their ivory towers making such stupid decisions. No thought whatsoever about the feelings of relatives that live in the west of the county who want to say their final fare wells to loved ones.
Words fail me as to the un-compassionate, idiotic money skimping morons that sit in their ivory towers making such stupid decisions. No thought whatsoever about the feelings of relatives that live in the west of the county who want to say their final fare wells to loved ones. Dorset Boy
  • Score: 35

9:46am Thu 6 Mar 14

Newground says...

Here's the problem. The DCC thinks that by making dumber-than-dumb decision citizens will rise upand say 'these Government cuts are scandalous.'

In fact, the opposite is largely true. When you witness the grim levels of decision-making ability at DCC, you realise that the council is managed by very, very low-grade specimens indeed. The cuts are partly designed to root them out.

The gormlessness can only continue until these people move on or move out... or get shipped to Boscombe themselves.

A dead loss all round.
Here's the problem. The DCC thinks that by making dumber-than-dumb decision citizens will rise upand say 'these Government cuts are scandalous.' In fact, the opposite is largely true. When you witness the grim levels of decision-making ability at DCC, you realise that the council is managed by very, very low-grade specimens indeed. The cuts are partly designed to root them out. The gormlessness can only continue until these people move on or move out... or get shipped to Boscombe themselves. A dead loss all round. Newground
  • Score: 16

9:48am Thu 6 Mar 14

February1948 says...

I agree wholeheartedly with all of the above. I sometimes think that the people who make these heartless decisions have never been in positions whereby they, and their families, suffer these cuts, always, oddly enough, aimed at the poor and vulnerable. I wonder if one day they will look back and reflect on their actions? Or will they be forever cushioned from real life?
I agree wholeheartedly with all of the above. I sometimes think that the people who make these heartless decisions have never been in positions whereby they, and their families, suffer these cuts, always, oddly enough, aimed at the poor and vulnerable. I wonder if one day they will look back and reflect on their actions? Or will they be forever cushioned from real life? February1948
  • Score: 18

10:02am Thu 6 Mar 14

caz maz says...

So if we are to go down to one mortuary in Dorset to save money ok, but it has to be central to all! not in one of the most easterly points of the count as it is NOT accessible to all!!!!!!!
This is a bbc report on the mortuary in 2010 Note the last sentence!
And 90 bodies, that's a lot may be this has been on the cards a lot longer than we think

Work on Bournemouth's new £2m mortuary completed

Work has been completed on a new £2m mortuary in Bournemouth designed to carry out all types of post-mortem examinations.

The facility at East Cemetery is also expected to provide a more efficient service to bereaved families and offer better facilities for medical staff.

Post-mortem tests on infectious diseases usually happen in Brighton and forensic ones take place in Dorchester.

The mortuary centralises all services under one roof and can store 90 bodies.

Councillor David Smith, Bournemouth's cabinet member for community, said: "The main benefit the public will notice is a more efficient and sensitive service.

"Bournemouth now has a centralised mortuary set in peaceful grounds, meaning that it will no longer be necessary to travel outside of the conurbation."
So if we are to go down to one mortuary in Dorset to save money ok, but it has to be central to all! not in one of the most easterly points of the count as it is NOT accessible to all!!!!!!! This is a bbc report on the mortuary in 2010 Note the last sentence! And 90 bodies, that's a lot may be this has been on the cards a lot longer than we think Work on Bournemouth's new £2m mortuary completed Work has been completed on a new £2m mortuary in Bournemouth designed to carry out all types of post-mortem examinations. The facility at East Cemetery is also expected to provide a more efficient service to bereaved families and offer better facilities for medical staff. Post-mortem tests on infectious diseases usually happen in Brighton and forensic ones take place in Dorchester. The mortuary centralises all services under one roof and can store 90 bodies. Councillor David Smith, Bournemouth's cabinet member for community, said: "The main benefit the public will notice is a more efficient and sensitive service. "Bournemouth now has a centralised mortuary set in peaceful grounds, meaning that it will no longer be necessary to travel outside of the conurbation." caz maz
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10:14am Thu 6 Mar 14

Lanedor says...

Dorset Boy wrote:
Words fail me as to the un-compassionate, idiotic money skimping morons that sit in their ivory towers making such stupid decisions. No thought whatsoever about the feelings of relatives that live in the west of the county who want to say their final fare wells to loved ones.
Totally agree with Dorset boy - it is a ridiculous decision! I thought that Bournemouth and Poole had severed their ties with the rest of us in Dorset so am surprised that they have agreed to have this supposedly centralised mortuary based in their area!
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Boy[/bold] wrote: Words fail me as to the un-compassionate, idiotic money skimping morons that sit in their ivory towers making such stupid decisions. No thought whatsoever about the feelings of relatives that live in the west of the county who want to say their final fare wells to loved ones.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with Dorset boy - it is a ridiculous decision! I thought that Bournemouth and Poole had severed their ties with the rest of us in Dorset so am surprised that they have agreed to have this supposedly centralised mortuary based in their area! Lanedor
  • Score: 11

10:51am Thu 6 Mar 14

Scruples says...

Dorset County Hospital continue to create new jobs for people, what we would have once called "jobs for the boys". They create a job speck that only the person they want to employ can apply for because of certain qualifications that only that person has, which means only that person can apply.
Very hard to prove has in all government organisations there are very closed shops within senior management. This is a major concern and should be investigated independently as the typical outcome is the loss of jobs in other areas such as the Mortuary.
Dorset County Hospital continue to create new jobs for people, what we would have once called "jobs for the boys". They create a job speck that only the person they want to employ can apply for because of certain qualifications that only that person has, which means only that person can apply. Very hard to prove has in all government organisations there are very closed shops within senior management. This is a major concern and should be investigated independently as the typical outcome is the loss of jobs in other areas such as the Mortuary. Scruples
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11:15am Thu 6 Mar 14

elloello1980 says...

whoever made this decision, kindly punch yourself in the face!

Thank you in advance
whoever made this decision, kindly punch yourself in the face! Thank you in advance elloello1980
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11:26am Thu 6 Mar 14

Legal Eyes says...

Hang on a minute. Who has ever gone to pay their last respects in a hospital mortuary? Undertakers will presumably collect as before and chapels of rest etc will continue to operate. I really object to sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses.
Hang on a minute. Who has ever gone to pay their last respects in a hospital mortuary? Undertakers will presumably collect as before and chapels of rest etc will continue to operate. I really object to sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses. Legal Eyes
  • Score: -13

11:37am Thu 6 Mar 14

Newground says...

Legal Eyes wrote:
Hang on a minute. Who has ever gone to pay their last respects in a hospital mortuary? Undertakers will presumably collect as before and chapels of rest etc will continue to operate. I really object to sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses.
Legaleyes,

So it makes sense to ship dead bodies out to Boscombe, and then cart them back to West Dorset for last respects and burial?

Why not courier them all overnight via DHL to an ultra-efficient mega-cetnre in Milton Keynes? And then back again.

Your quest to root out sensationalist coverage and knee-jerk emotional response is a sound one. But you are fighting the wrong battle.

Or you are one of our esteemed council decision makers?
[quote][p][bold]Legal Eyes[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute. Who has ever gone to pay their last respects in a hospital mortuary? Undertakers will presumably collect as before and chapels of rest etc will continue to operate. I really object to sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses.[/p][/quote]Legaleyes, So it makes sense to ship dead bodies out to Boscombe, and then cart them back to West Dorset for last respects and burial? Why not courier them all overnight via DHL to an ultra-efficient mega-cetnre in Milton Keynes? And then back again. Your quest to root out sensationalist coverage and knee-jerk emotional response is a sound one. But you are fighting the wrong battle. Or you are one of our esteemed council decision makers? Newground
  • Score: 27

11:49am Thu 6 Mar 14

shy talk says...

Partly correct Legal Eyes. The only time you need to go to a mortuary is for identification purposes. Which is more stressful for the relatives or next of kin looking for a missing loved one.

However “ sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses” I think not.
Partly correct Legal Eyes. The only time you need to go to a mortuary is for identification purposes. Which is more stressful for the relatives or next of kin looking for a missing loved one. However “ sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses” I think not. shy talk
  • Score: 12

12:12pm Thu 6 Mar 14

MaidofDorset says...

Clarification in simple words please. They haven't said how much they would save. I'm not clear if the deceased has to go to Boscombe, then be transported to the funeral home, and then to the Church or crematorium

Would expected deaths (i.e.. terminally ill) at DCH go straight to the funeral directors?Would someone who died unexpectedly at home go straight to Boscombe?
Clarification in simple words please. They haven't said how much they would save. I'm not clear if the deceased has to go to Boscombe, then be transported to the funeral home, and then to the Church or crematorium Would expected deaths (i.e.. terminally ill) at DCH go straight to the funeral directors?Would someone who died unexpectedly at home go straight to Boscombe? MaidofDorset
  • Score: 3

12:19pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Scruples says...

Legal Eyes wrote:
Hang on a minute. Who has ever gone to pay their last respects in a hospital mortuary? Undertakers will presumably collect as before and chapels of rest etc will continue to operate. I really object to sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses.
Funny enough I have, and I expect thousands of others have also. I suggest before you have a go at those who you believe sensationalise you get your facts right! By the way it was a calm and lovely setting in the hospital mortuary the same as an undertakers which made my family and I feel good for our loss, but still loved one.
[quote][p][bold]Legal Eyes[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute. Who has ever gone to pay their last respects in a hospital mortuary? Undertakers will presumably collect as before and chapels of rest etc will continue to operate. I really object to sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses.[/p][/quote]Funny enough I have, and I expect thousands of others have also. I suggest before you have a go at those who you believe sensationalise you get your facts right! By the way it was a calm and lovely setting in the hospital mortuary the same as an undertakers which made my family and I feel good for our loss, but still loved one. Scruples
  • Score: 15

12:22pm Thu 6 Mar 14

irisred says...

Legal Eyes wrote:
Hang on a minute. Who has ever gone to pay their last respects in a hospital mortuary? Undertakers will presumably collect as before and chapels of rest etc will continue to operate. I really object to sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses.
Actually, lots of people visit their loved ones in the viewing facility at DCH. The team there are brilliant and accommodating.

Reading this article in more detail paitents that die at DCH will go to the DCH mortuary it is community deaths that will be taken to Boscombe, so for example, anyone that dies at home or in a community facility in Bridport, will be taken to Boscombe, only to presumably be taken back to Bridport again for their funeral. Surely this will result in additional costs to funeral directors, and therefore bereaved families?

I'd be very interested to know how much they feel this will save the council!
[quote][p][bold]Legal Eyes[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute. Who has ever gone to pay their last respects in a hospital mortuary? Undertakers will presumably collect as before and chapels of rest etc will continue to operate. I really object to sensationalist coverage designed to provoke knee-jerk emotional responses.[/p][/quote]Actually, lots of people visit their loved ones in the viewing facility at DCH. The team there are brilliant and accommodating. Reading this article in more detail paitents that die at DCH will go to the DCH mortuary it is community deaths that will be taken to Boscombe, so for example, anyone that dies at home or in a community facility in Bridport, will be taken to Boscombe, only to presumably be taken back to Bridport again for their funeral. Surely this will result in additional costs to funeral directors, and therefore bereaved families? I'd be very interested to know how much they feel this will save the council! irisred
  • Score: 17

12:23pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

MaidofDorset wrote:
Clarification in simple words please. They haven't said how much they would save. I'm not clear if the deceased has to go to Boscombe, then be transported to the funeral home, and then to the Church or crematorium

Would expected deaths (i.e.. terminally ill) at DCH go straight to the funeral directors?Would someone who died unexpectedly at home go straight to Boscombe?
I read the article as suggesting that people who die in the Dorchester Hospital will still have a PM ( if required) at that hospital. Other people will be taken Boscombe, again assuming a PM is required. What isn't clear is how many of the 500 PMs currently undertaken at Dorchester fall into the second category.

It's a value judgement, I do think that it would be a shame if people had to travel all the way to Boscombe to identify someone. I am less persuaded by the notion that many people go to a mortuary to pay their respects. In my experience, people tend to go to the Funeral Director's once the undertaker has done their job.

For me, a more significant issue is the additional cost for families if undertakers have to travel to Boscombe to collect the body.
[quote][p][bold]MaidofDorset[/bold] wrote: Clarification in simple words please. They haven't said how much they would save. I'm not clear if the deceased has to go to Boscombe, then be transported to the funeral home, and then to the Church or crematorium Would expected deaths (i.e.. terminally ill) at DCH go straight to the funeral directors?Would someone who died unexpectedly at home go straight to Boscombe?[/p][/quote]I read the article as suggesting that people who die in the Dorchester Hospital will still have a PM ( if required) at that hospital. Other people will be taken Boscombe, again assuming a PM is required. What isn't clear is how many of the 500 PMs currently undertaken at Dorchester fall into the second category. It's a value judgement, I do think that it would be a shame if people had to travel all the way to Boscombe to identify someone. I am less persuaded by the notion that many people go to a mortuary to pay their respects. In my experience, people tend to go to the Funeral Director's once the undertaker has done their job. For me, a more significant issue is the additional cost for families if undertakers have to travel to Boscombe to collect the body. Rocksalt
  • Score: 7

12:38pm Thu 6 Mar 14

JamesYoung says...

Rocksalt wrote:
MaidofDorset wrote:
Clarification in simple words please. They haven't said how much they would save. I'm not clear if the deceased has to go to Boscombe, then be transported to the funeral home, and then to the Church or crematorium

Would expected deaths (i.e.. terminally ill) at DCH go straight to the funeral directors?Would someone who died unexpectedly at home go straight to Boscombe?
I read the article as suggesting that people who die in the Dorchester Hospital will still have a PM ( if required) at that hospital. Other people will be taken Boscombe, again assuming a PM is required. What isn't clear is how many of the 500 PMs currently undertaken at Dorchester fall into the second category.

It's a value judgement, I do think that it would be a shame if people had to travel all the way to Boscombe to identify someone. I am less persuaded by the notion that many people go to a mortuary to pay their respects. In my experience, people tend to go to the Funeral Director's once the undertaker has done their job.

For me, a more significant issue is the additional cost for families if undertakers have to travel to Boscombe to collect the body.
I think the latter sentence sums up the issue.
If the issue is the cost of post mortems, then the answer is surely to have a chapel of rest open for relatives, with the body then being shipped for post mortem.
However, it is utterly wrong for the council to commit people to unavoidable expense if it is their intent that bodies are then collected from Boscombe.
But then again, perhaps we need to step away from what is actually an illogical attachment to dead bodies. I say that as somebody with a close relative who chose to donate their body for medical research.
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaidofDorset[/bold] wrote: Clarification in simple words please. They haven't said how much they would save. I'm not clear if the deceased has to go to Boscombe, then be transported to the funeral home, and then to the Church or crematorium Would expected deaths (i.e.. terminally ill) at DCH go straight to the funeral directors?Would someone who died unexpectedly at home go straight to Boscombe?[/p][/quote]I read the article as suggesting that people who die in the Dorchester Hospital will still have a PM ( if required) at that hospital. Other people will be taken Boscombe, again assuming a PM is required. What isn't clear is how many of the 500 PMs currently undertaken at Dorchester fall into the second category. It's a value judgement, I do think that it would be a shame if people had to travel all the way to Boscombe to identify someone. I am less persuaded by the notion that many people go to a mortuary to pay their respects. In my experience, people tend to go to the Funeral Director's once the undertaker has done their job. For me, a more significant issue is the additional cost for families if undertakers have to travel to Boscombe to collect the body.[/p][/quote]I think the latter sentence sums up the issue. If the issue is the cost of post mortems, then the answer is surely to have a chapel of rest open for relatives, with the body then being shipped for post mortem. However, it is utterly wrong for the council to commit people to unavoidable expense if it is their intent that bodies are then collected from Boscombe. But then again, perhaps we need to step away from what is actually an illogical attachment to dead bodies. I say that as somebody with a close relative who chose to donate their body for medical research. JamesYoung
  • Score: 2

12:43pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Purbecklass says...

My concern is the timeframes people will have to wait to be allowed their loved ones bodies for funerals. If their loved ones need a post mortem, which will have to be done at Boscombe if this goes then they could be waiting weeks and weeks which will surely add to their grief!
I am also under the belief that the mortuary staff in DCH provide exceptional tissue donation services which may be lost entirely to furture families. Therefore someone wishing to donate tissues such as corneas after death may well not be able to as staff in Boscombe will be too busy doing all the additional post mortems! Very very sad indeed.
My concern is the timeframes people will have to wait to be allowed their loved ones bodies for funerals. If their loved ones need a post mortem, which will have to be done at Boscombe if this goes then they could be waiting weeks and weeks which will surely add to their grief! I am also under the belief that the mortuary staff in DCH provide exceptional tissue donation services which may be lost entirely to furture families. Therefore someone wishing to donate tissues such as corneas after death may well not be able to as staff in Boscombe will be too busy doing all the additional post mortems! Very very sad indeed. Purbecklass
  • Score: 1

1:26pm Thu 6 Mar 14

custos says...

Incredible. How can you 'centralise' a service in the far east of the county? That is over a 100 mile round trip from some parts of Dorset!
Incredible. How can you 'centralise' a service in the far east of the county? That is over a 100 mile round trip from some parts of Dorset! custos
  • Score: 12

1:34pm Thu 6 Mar 14

paul2164 says...

This is going to be short and sweet...I think we need to reshuffle the pen-pushers in the council. Clearly they're not from this planet!
Maybe if they spent less money on fuel budgets and top of the range cars, they'd have more to spend on things that matter.
I reckon they should put those Weymouth laser lights on eBay, what exactly do they contribute?
Paul Newman.
This is going to be short and sweet...I think we need to reshuffle the pen-pushers in the council. Clearly they're not from this planet! Maybe if they spent less money on fuel budgets and top of the range cars, they'd have more to spend on things that matter. I reckon they should put those Weymouth laser lights on eBay, what exactly do they contribute? Paul Newman. paul2164
  • Score: 14

1:41pm Thu 6 Mar 14

1Kimberlin says...

Here hang on a minute. I understand the 'going to the morgue to identify bodies' but I would think that many people would do this Iin the UndertakersChapel of Rest The other thing I would like to know if a person from Lyme Regis or down that way is in the morgue, who then is going to pay the undertaker has to travel to Boscombe to retrieve the body and then transport said body back to the Chapel of Rest. Who picks up the Tab then ? Next Ohec sensational Headlines 'Funeral Fees Rocket in Dorset'
Here hang on a minute. I understand the 'going to the morgue to identify bodies' but I would think that many people would do this Iin the UndertakersChapel of Rest The other thing I would like to know if a person from Lyme Regis or down that way is in the morgue, who then is going to pay the undertaker has to travel to Boscombe to retrieve the body and then transport said body back to the Chapel of Rest. Who picks up the Tab then ? Next Ohec sensational Headlines 'Funeral Fees Rocket in Dorset' 1Kimberlin
  • Score: 9

2:20pm Thu 6 Mar 14

oldbrock says...

paul2164 wrote:
This is going to be short and sweet...I think we need to reshuffle the pen-pushers in the council. Clearly they're not from this planet!
Maybe if they spent less money on fuel budgets and top of the range cars, they'd have more to spend on things that matter.
I reckon they should put those Weymouth laser lights on eBay, what exactly do they contribute?
Paul Newman.
nice one! funny, when there is money to be saved, its never councillor numbers or their expenses that get cut or threatened with cuts, its always the people who pay the tax of whatever form, to pay for services that are increasingly being dispensed with..........
[quote][p][bold]paul2164[/bold] wrote: This is going to be short and sweet...I think we need to reshuffle the pen-pushers in the council. Clearly they're not from this planet! Maybe if they spent less money on fuel budgets and top of the range cars, they'd have more to spend on things that matter. I reckon they should put those Weymouth laser lights on eBay, what exactly do they contribute? Paul Newman.[/p][/quote]nice one! funny, when there is money to be saved, its never councillor numbers or their expenses that get cut or threatened with cuts, its always the people who pay the tax of whatever form, to pay for services that are increasingly being dispensed with.......... oldbrock
  • Score: 5

4:15pm Thu 6 Mar 14

swibley says...

Although the move to Boscombe may well save money for the council the cost of bringing a loved one 'home' will certainly add costs to a funeral for family living in West Dorset.
Although the move to Boscombe may well save money for the council the cost of bringing a loved one 'home' will certainly add costs to a funeral for family living in West Dorset. swibley
  • Score: 6

5:36pm Thu 6 Mar 14

caz maz says...

A body can have to be in a mortuary for many months and it has been even known to be there for years depending on circumstances of their death, the family's will have to travel that distance to pay there respects as often as they feel they need to ....................
....maybe we could all get a discount on our council tax seen as it will no longer be a local service.
A body can have to be in a mortuary for many months and it has been even known to be there for years depending on circumstances of their death, the family's will have to travel that distance to pay there respects as often as they feel they need to .................... ....maybe we could all get a discount on our council tax seen as it will no longer be a local service. caz maz
  • Score: 4

6:38pm Thu 6 Mar 14

I'mavoter says...

So, who is going to pay to transport the bodies from DCH to Boscombe ?
Where exactly is saving ?
So, who is going to pay to transport the bodies from DCH to Boscombe ? Where exactly is saving ? I'mavoter
  • Score: 4

8:04pm Thu 6 Mar 14

ksmain says...

Scruples wrote:
Dorset County Hospital continue to create new jobs for people, what we would have once called "jobs for the boys". They create a job speck that only the person they want to employ can apply for because of certain qualifications that only that person has, which means only that person can apply.
Very hard to prove has in all government organisations there are very closed shops within senior management. This is a major concern and should be investigated independently as the typical outcome is the loss of jobs in other areas such as the Mortuary.
You need to read the report properly - this decision has been taken by DORSET COUNTY COUNCIL and not DORSET COUNTY HOSPITAL - so I don't know what your babble has to do with the article above. If you think that what happens that you describe above doesn't happen in other Public & Private organisations then words fail me. What about private companies offering job roles for politicians?

Having said that I think that the decision is ridiculous - especially for those living in the North & West of the county. There should be respect for the dead and their relatives - and IMO this shows them none.
[quote][p][bold]Scruples[/bold] wrote: Dorset County Hospital continue to create new jobs for people, what we would have once called "jobs for the boys". They create a job speck that only the person they want to employ can apply for because of certain qualifications that only that person has, which means only that person can apply. Very hard to prove has in all government organisations there are very closed shops within senior management. This is a major concern and should be investigated independently as the typical outcome is the loss of jobs in other areas such as the Mortuary.[/p][/quote]You need to read the report properly - this decision has been taken by DORSET COUNTY COUNCIL and not DORSET COUNTY HOSPITAL - so I don't know what your babble has to do with the article above. If you think that what happens that you describe above doesn't happen in other Public & Private organisations then words fail me. What about private companies offering job roles for politicians? Having said that I think that the decision is ridiculous - especially for those living in the North & West of the county. There should be respect for the dead and their relatives - and IMO this shows them none. ksmain
  • Score: 3

8:59pm Thu 6 Mar 14

bargain price says...

Isn't about time the councillors cut some of the services they use, Oh no that won't happen will it
Isn't about time the councillors cut some of the services they use, Oh no that won't happen will it bargain price
  • Score: 0

9:04pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Scruples says...

ksmain wrote:
Scruples wrote:
Dorset County Hospital continue to create new jobs for people, what we would have once called "jobs for the boys". They create a job speck that only the person they want to employ can apply for because of certain qualifications that only that person has, which means only that person can apply.
Very hard to prove has in all government organisations there are very closed shops within senior management. This is a major concern and should be investigated independently as the typical outcome is the loss of jobs in other areas such as the Mortuary.
You need to read the report properly - this decision has been taken by DORSET COUNTY COUNCIL and not DORSET COUNTY HOSPITAL - so I don't know what your babble has to do with the article above. If you think that what happens that you describe above doesn't happen in other Public & Private organisations then words fail me. What about private companies offering job roles for politicians?

Having said that I think that the decision is ridiculous - especially for those living in the North & West of the county. There should be respect for the dead and their relatives - and IMO this shows them none.
Sorry for the babble ksmain, as you wrote "If you think that what happens that you describe above doesn't happen in other Public & Private organisations then words fail me"
I believe we are talking about a Government organisation irrespective if its DCH or DCC. The point being made here is clear I to the mildly intelligent so whats your babble all about? If you don't understand it or you don't think DCH has anything to do with the contract, then words fail me!!
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scruples[/bold] wrote: Dorset County Hospital continue to create new jobs for people, what we would have once called "jobs for the boys". They create a job speck that only the person they want to employ can apply for because of certain qualifications that only that person has, which means only that person can apply. Very hard to prove has in all government organisations there are very closed shops within senior management. This is a major concern and should be investigated independently as the typical outcome is the loss of jobs in other areas such as the Mortuary.[/p][/quote]You need to read the report properly - this decision has been taken by DORSET COUNTY COUNCIL and not DORSET COUNTY HOSPITAL - so I don't know what your babble has to do with the article above. If you think that what happens that you describe above doesn't happen in other Public & Private organisations then words fail me. What about private companies offering job roles for politicians? Having said that I think that the decision is ridiculous - especially for those living in the North & West of the county. There should be respect for the dead and their relatives - and IMO this shows them none.[/p][/quote]Sorry for the babble ksmain, as you wrote "If you think that what happens that you describe above doesn't happen in other Public & Private organisations then words fail me" I believe we are talking about a Government organisation irrespective if its DCH or DCC. The point being made here is clear I to the mildly intelligent so whats your babble all about? If you don't understand it or you don't think DCH has anything to do with the contract, then words fail me!! Scruples
  • Score: 2

10:08pm Thu 6 Mar 14

anika says...

custos wrote:
Incredible. How can you 'centralise' a service in the far east of the county? That is over a 100 mile round trip from some parts of Dorset!
I always thought Dorchester was the county town so why isn't this centre based at Dorchester? Bournemouth wasn't even part of Dorset 50 years ago but Dorchester was. Are they really going to be driving bodies around Dorset? How disrespectful to the person who has died and also their family.

Then we have the added fuel costs when I thought we were supposed to be going green...............
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[quote][p][bold]custos[/bold] wrote: Incredible. How can you 'centralise' a service in the far east of the county? That is over a 100 mile round trip from some parts of Dorset![/p][/quote]I always thought Dorchester was the county town so why isn't this centre based at Dorchester? Bournemouth wasn't even part of Dorset 50 years ago but Dorchester was. Are they really going to be driving bodies around Dorset? How disrespectful to the person who has died and also their family. Then we have the added fuel costs when I thought we were supposed to be going green............... ................ anika
  • Score: 3

10:09pm Thu 6 Mar 14

wurzelbasher says...

DCC will still have their company cars and fancy pension schemes. THAT'S what they want to cut first, the damned hypocrites!
DCC will still have their company cars and fancy pension schemes. THAT'S what they want to cut first, the damned hypocrites! wurzelbasher
  • Score: 0

6:20am Fri 7 Mar 14

Genghis says...

bargain price wrote:
Isn't about time the councillors cut some of the services they use, Oh no that won't happen will it
So, councillors and their families are immortal then and don't need to use the mortuary service?
[quote][p][bold]bargain price[/bold] wrote: Isn't about time the councillors cut some of the services they use, Oh no that won't happen will it[/p][/quote]So, councillors and their families are immortal then and don't need to use the mortuary service? Genghis
  • Score: 3

8:36am Fri 7 Mar 14

MaidofDorset says...

Two questions.

How much money will this save the Council as they will still have to pay for the deceased to be sent to Boscombe? I'm presuming the family won't have to pay or will they?

How much money will it cost me when I want my relative brought back from Boscombe to Dorchester for the funeral?
Two questions. How much money will this save the Council as they will still have to pay for the deceased to be sent to Boscombe? I'm presuming the family won't have to pay or will they? How much money will it cost me when I want my relative brought back from Boscombe to Dorchester for the funeral? MaidofDorset
  • Score: 0

8:43am Fri 7 Mar 14

MaidofDorset says...

A couple of questions.

Who pays for our loved one to be transported to Boscombe, the Council or us?

Who pays for our loved one to be transported back to Dorchester, Weymouth, Bridport etc. and how much will the cost per deceased?

Is this going to save the taxpayer X amount, only to cost many times more in funeral costs, extra police time etc?
A couple of questions. Who pays for our loved one to be transported to Boscombe, the Council or us? Who pays for our loved one to be transported back to Dorchester, Weymouth, Bridport etc. and how much will the cost per deceased? Is this going to save the taxpayer X amount, only to cost many times more in funeral costs, extra police time etc? MaidofDorset
  • Score: 1

9:40am Fri 7 Mar 14

dorsetdog says...

MaidofDorset wrote:
A couple of questions. Who pays for our loved one to be transported to Boscombe, the Council or us? Who pays for our loved one to be transported back to Dorchester, Weymouth, Bridport etc. and how much will the cost per deceased? Is this going to save the taxpayer X amount, only to cost many times more in funeral costs, extra police time etc?
You can bet your life that the relatives of the deceased will be the ones footing the cost. Since when has Bournemouth been in central dorset. I agree with an earlier correspondent that its a round trip of over 100 miles for some Dorset residents. Dorchester is fast becoming a ghost town instead of a county town!!
[quote][p][bold]MaidofDorset[/bold] wrote: A couple of questions. Who pays for our loved one to be transported to Boscombe, the Council or us? Who pays for our loved one to be transported back to Dorchester, Weymouth, Bridport etc. and how much will the cost per deceased? Is this going to save the taxpayer X amount, only to cost many times more in funeral costs, extra police time etc?[/p][/quote]You can bet your life that the relatives of the deceased will be the ones footing the cost. Since when has Bournemouth been in central dorset. I agree with an earlier correspondent that its a round trip of over 100 miles for some Dorset residents. Dorchester is fast becoming a ghost town instead of a county town!! dorsetdog
  • Score: 1

1:46pm Fri 7 Mar 14

PEJ says...

I have informed my close relatives. If my body is transported to Boscombe just leave me there and state they cannot afford the extra cost to return me to my home town. After all I will be dead and will not care. The cost of funerals is already outrageous without adding more to the bill for transport. Why we British do not make a stand against this and other ridiculous decisions is beyond me.
I have informed my close relatives. If my body is transported to Boscombe just leave me there and state they cannot afford the extra cost to return me to my home town. After all I will be dead and will not care. The cost of funerals is already outrageous without adding more to the bill for transport. Why we British do not make a stand against this and other ridiculous decisions is beyond me. PEJ
  • Score: 2

7:49pm Fri 7 Mar 14

westbaywonder says...

wurzelbasher wrote:
DCC will still have their company cars and fancy pension schemes. THAT'S what they want to cut first, the damned hypocrites!
Well said Worzelbasher,
Notice every time this is mentioned,some little office troll from the council hits the thumbs down box.
We know you have trolls going through here Mr Council and reporting back to you.
Sad people , should be ashamed of the way they behave!!!
[quote][p][bold]wurzelbasher[/bold] wrote: DCC will still have their company cars and fancy pension schemes. THAT'S what they want to cut first, the damned hypocrites![/p][/quote]Well said Worzelbasher, Notice every time this is mentioned,some little office troll from the council hits the thumbs down box. We know you have trolls going through here Mr Council and reporting back to you. Sad people , should be ashamed of the way they behave!!! westbaywonder
  • Score: -2

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