UKIP candidate visits Dorchester

David Glossop

David Glossop

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A NEWLY selected UKIP parliamentary candidate will be in Dorchester this weekend.

David Glossop was chosen as the party’s preferred candidate to stand for the West Dorset seat in next year’s Westminster elections following a closely contested hustings attended by 45 members this week.

At 11am on Saturday he will officially open the office of William Dartmouth MEP in the county town, which will also serve as the base for the new Dorchester UKIP branch to run its West Dorset campaign.

The campaign headquarters in South Street will be a base for local party activities where members will provide information to the public and offer a drop-in space for those wanting to discuss concerns about local or national matters and to find out ways to give support.

UKIP has announced its intention to contest all seats at all local elections going forward and candidates will be put forward for this year’s European elections and borough council elections for Weymouth and Portland in May as well as the general election, West Dorset District Council election and Dorchester Town Council elections next year.

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7:05am Mon 10 Mar 14

Tonyglyn says...

I will also be in Dorchester this weekend.
I will also be in Dorchester this weekend. Tonyglyn
  • Score: 3

7:37am Mon 10 Mar 14

dontbuyit says...

At last an alternative to the current crop of WDDC councillors. They might actually listen to their constituents.
At last an alternative to the current crop of WDDC councillors. They might actually listen to their constituents. dontbuyit
  • Score: 96

10:13am Mon 10 Mar 14

ronfogg says...

A man who is intending to represent West Dorset visits Dorchester. Wow, that really is news. Has he been to Dorchester before, I wonder. Perhaps he'll be visiting Bridport soon.
A man who is intending to represent West Dorset visits Dorchester. Wow, that really is news. Has he been to Dorchester before, I wonder. Perhaps he'll be visiting Bridport soon. ronfogg
  • Score: 2

11:01am Mon 10 Mar 14

Dorset stuff says...

Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really.
Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really. Dorset stuff
  • Score: -51

12:33pm Mon 10 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really.
I was in agreement with your post right up to the last sentence and now I think you are a pompous snob! People like you just go to prove that the class system is alive and well in millenium England. Instead of making classist statements why don't you use the education you have been provided with and research the "working class" of this country. If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really.[/p][/quote]I was in agreement with your post right up to the last sentence and now I think you are a pompous snob! People like you just go to prove that the class system is alive and well in millenium England. Instead of making classist statements why don't you use the education you have been provided with and research the "working class" of this country. If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation. woodsedge
  • Score: 75

2:17pm Mon 10 Mar 14

JamesYoung says...

woodsedge wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really.
I was in agreement with your post right up to the last sentence and now I think you are a pompous snob! People like you just go to prove that the class system is alive and well in millenium England. Instead of making classist statements why don't you use the education you have been provided with and research the "working class" of this country. If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation.
"If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation."
Which is actually nearly all of us.
Interesting that you picked the words "hands dirty". The classical definition of wealth is "the application of labour to land". We've forgotten that in this country.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really.[/p][/quote]I was in agreement with your post right up to the last sentence and now I think you are a pompous snob! People like you just go to prove that the class system is alive and well in millenium England. Instead of making classist statements why don't you use the education you have been provided with and research the "working class" of this country. If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation.[/p][/quote]"If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation." Which is actually nearly all of us. Interesting that you picked the words "hands dirty". The classical definition of wealth is "the application of labour to land". We've forgotten that in this country. JamesYoung
  • Score: 0

2:40pm Mon 10 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

JamesYoung wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really.
I was in agreement with your post right up to the last sentence and now I think you are a pompous snob! People like you just go to prove that the class system is alive and well in millenium England. Instead of making classist statements why don't you use the education you have been provided with and research the "working class" of this country. If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation.
"If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation."
Which is actually nearly all of us.
Interesting that you picked the words "hands dirty". The classical definition of wealth is "the application of labour to land". We've forgotten that in this country.
Agreed James, including both public and private sector citizens!
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really.[/p][/quote]I was in agreement with your post right up to the last sentence and now I think you are a pompous snob! People like you just go to prove that the class system is alive and well in millenium England. Instead of making classist statements why don't you use the education you have been provided with and research the "working class" of this country. If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation.[/p][/quote]"If you were to do that you would know that it is those that get their hands dirty that provide the wealth of this nation." Which is actually nearly all of us. Interesting that you picked the words "hands dirty". The classical definition of wealth is "the application of labour to land". We've forgotten that in this country.[/p][/quote]Agreed James, including both public and private sector citizens! woodsedge
  • Score: 3

3:47pm Mon 10 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life.
The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so.
Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life. The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so. cosmick
  • Score: 52

4:09pm Mon 10 Mar 14

elloello1980 says...

cosmick wrote:
Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life. The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so.
please explain why it was not good for the country?

Apart from it getting up the backs of the nation's racists and facists.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life. The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so.[/p][/quote]please explain why it was not good for the country? Apart from it getting up the backs of the nation's racists and facists. elloello1980
  • Score: -11

4:22pm Mon 10 Mar 14

DavidJG says...

I have, sadly, do doubt that there are both racists and fascists in the UK. But isn't bigotry just as blind and ignorant an opinion? Just because someone wants to limit the number of people - from anywhere - travelling to the UK looking for work doesn't necessarily make that person a racist. Just consider for a moment that the UK is the most heavily populated country within Europe and that we don't have enough accommodation now, our NHS is creaking because we don't have enough hospital beds and our schools are dangerously over crowded. By all means allow those who have a promised job and accommodation to come here but until we have a government that can find out the true extent of immigration doesn't it make sense to apply the brakes on unfettered immigration - however temporarily.
I have, sadly, do doubt that there are both racists and fascists in the UK. But isn't bigotry just as blind and ignorant an opinion? Just because someone wants to limit the number of people - from anywhere - travelling to the UK looking for work doesn't necessarily make that person a racist. Just consider for a moment that the UK is the most heavily populated country within Europe and that we don't have enough accommodation now, our NHS is creaking because we don't have enough hospital beds and our schools are dangerously over crowded. By all means allow those who have a promised job and accommodation to come here but until we have a government that can find out the true extent of immigration doesn't it make sense to apply the brakes on unfettered immigration - however temporarily. DavidJG
  • Score: 78

6:11pm Mon 10 Mar 14

CoogarUK.com says...

They've certainly got my vote, at least until all the other politicians start behaving themselves.
They've certainly got my vote, at least until all the other politicians start behaving themselves. CoogarUK.com
  • Score: 65

7:06pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

cosmick wrote:
Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life.
The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so.
The 'British' way of life. What might that be then? Rounding up people we don't like and putting them on trains like cattle to the slaughter, not caring where they might end up? Seems reminiscent of Europe seventy five years ago to me. Thats not my Britain. Thats not what my grandparents fought for. They would be as disgusted as me with political party that has fascist sympathies moving to Dorchester.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life. The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so.[/p][/quote]The 'British' way of life. What might that be then? Rounding up people we don't like and putting them on trains like cattle to the slaughter, not caring where they might end up? Seems reminiscent of Europe seventy five years ago to me. Thats not my Britain. Thats not what my grandparents fought for. They would be as disgusted as me with political party that has fascist sympathies moving to Dorchester. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -22

7:22pm Mon 10 Mar 14

DavidJG says...

I have met many, possibly hundreds, of UKIP members and supporters - and not one of them gives any indication of being a fascist. Where on earth did you get the idea of rounding people up? It is, I hope, only the work of an overactive imagination. Many in UKIP have been in HM Forces ready to fight for their country to assist Europe out of trouble - not to be politically in it hook, line and sinker. UKIP has not moved to Dorchester - it has been there for years. It's just that now there are hundreds of supporters here and throughout West Dorset who are honest, loyal working folk of all ages. They will be as shocked to read your description of them just as I am. Please don't belittle people with a different political agenda to yourself (and, I wonder whether you vent your anger at all the other parties who fail to meet your expectations). Offensive? I should say so.
I have met many, possibly hundreds, of UKIP members and supporters - and not one of them gives any indication of being a fascist. Where on earth did you get the idea of rounding people up? It is, I hope, only the work of an overactive imagination. Many in UKIP have been in HM Forces ready to fight for their country to assist Europe out of trouble - not to be politically in it hook, line and sinker. UKIP has not moved to Dorchester - it has been there for years. It's just that now there are hundreds of supporters here and throughout West Dorset who are honest, loyal working folk of all ages. They will be as shocked to read your description of them just as I am. Please don't belittle people with a different political agenda to yourself (and, I wonder whether you vent your anger at all the other parties who fail to meet your expectations). Offensive? I should say so. DavidJG
  • Score: 90

7:23pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp.
Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions.
I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...
There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -28

7:38pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

DavidJG wrote:
I have met many, possibly hundreds, of UKIP members and supporters - and not one of them gives any indication of being a fascist. Where on earth did you get the idea of rounding people up? It is, I hope, only the work of an overactive imagination. Many in UKIP have been in HM Forces ready to fight for their country to assist Europe out of trouble - not to be politically in it hook, line and sinker. UKIP has not moved to Dorchester - it has been there for years. It's just that now there are hundreds of supporters here and throughout West Dorset who are honest, loyal working folk of all ages. They will be as shocked to read your description of them just as I am. Please don't belittle people with a different political agenda to yourself (and, I wonder whether you vent your anger at all the other parties who fail to meet your expectations). Offensive? I should say so.
Their political agenda is quite clearly to marginalise and eventually persecute anyone that they deem to be non upstanding Anglo Saxon that doesn't go to church.
Don't try and legitimise ukip by saying that members of the armed forces support them. They don't, thats wholly incorrect.
I will belittle anyone with a political agenda I see as being dangerous as well as racist, fascist and deeply flawed. Britain is a diverse country, and its lifeblood is change, not racial purity. We know where that story ends.
[quote][p][bold]DavidJG[/bold] wrote: I have met many, possibly hundreds, of UKIP members and supporters - and not one of them gives any indication of being a fascist. Where on earth did you get the idea of rounding people up? It is, I hope, only the work of an overactive imagination. Many in UKIP have been in HM Forces ready to fight for their country to assist Europe out of trouble - not to be politically in it hook, line and sinker. UKIP has not moved to Dorchester - it has been there for years. It's just that now there are hundreds of supporters here and throughout West Dorset who are honest, loyal working folk of all ages. They will be as shocked to read your description of them just as I am. Please don't belittle people with a different political agenda to yourself (and, I wonder whether you vent your anger at all the other parties who fail to meet your expectations). Offensive? I should say so.[/p][/quote]Their political agenda is quite clearly to marginalise and eventually persecute anyone that they deem to be non upstanding Anglo Saxon that doesn't go to church. Don't try and legitimise ukip by saying that members of the armed forces support them. They don't, thats wholly incorrect. I will belittle anyone with a political agenda I see as being dangerous as well as racist, fascist and deeply flawed. Britain is a diverse country, and its lifeblood is change, not racial purity. We know where that story ends. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -23

8:20pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Evidently Chickentown says...

Voting for UKIP as a protest vote against the major parties is like soiling your hotel bed as a protest against bad service, and then realising you've got to now sleep in a soiled bed.
Voting for UKIP as a protest vote against the major parties is like soiling your hotel bed as a protest against bad service, and then realising you've got to now sleep in a soiled bed. Evidently Chickentown
  • Score: -3

8:22pm Mon 10 Mar 14

cosmick says...

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a cosmick
  • Score: -6

8:50pm Mon 10 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Where shall i start.
EDUCATION, Over 240 schools in Britain where English bis not the first language spoken. One in nine schools where the majority of children not British,Where are they/ KIRKLEES/ LUTON/ ROCHDALE/ HILLINGDON/ TOWER HAMLETS/ LANCASHIRE/ NEWHAM/ BRADFORD/ BIRMINGHAM/
How can you teach our children in those schools this is against there interest from day one.
A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.
CRIME Fraudsters from the e/ u to blame for 92% of A.T.M. crime.
Rommanians classed as Self Empoloyed selling the BIG ISSUE so they are able to get a N.I number and claim Benifits.
The cost to the British tax payer of 98 MILLION pounds a year to keep E/U prison population .
Then thanks to the E/U HUMAN RIGHTS ACT we cannot deport them.
Housing if an E/U person gets a N.I NUMBER they are vthen entitled to the same benifits as we are, If vthey end up with more points than you ,you go DOWN THE LIST.
Did you see QUESTION TIME last week, a homeless man born and brought up in BARKING now a man in the minority.
PETERBOURGH over 100 different languages spoken.
Doctors waiting list in some areas 3 to 12 waiting time to see your own doctor.
Pritti Patel ask the main departments to the goverment the cost of immigration
there are no cost kept.
I love britain i want to retain the British way of life for the good of our children.
There are some good points about immigration but Car Cleaners Big Issue sellers and Beggers we dont need.
Where shall i start. EDUCATION, Over 240 schools in Britain where English bis not the first language spoken. One in nine schools where the majority of children not British,Where are they/ KIRKLEES/ LUTON/ ROCHDALE/ HILLINGDON/ TOWER HAMLETS/ LANCASHIRE/ NEWHAM/ BRADFORD/ BIRMINGHAM/ How can you teach our children in those schools this is against there interest from day one. A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. CRIME Fraudsters from the e/ u to blame for 92% of A.T.M. crime. Rommanians classed as Self Empoloyed selling the BIG ISSUE so they are able to get a N.I number and claim Benifits. The cost to the British tax payer of 98 MILLION pounds a year to keep E/U prison population . Then thanks to the E/U HUMAN RIGHTS ACT we cannot deport them. Housing if an E/U person gets a N.I NUMBER they are vthen entitled to the same benifits as we are, If vthey end up with more points than you ,you go DOWN THE LIST. Did you see QUESTION TIME last week, a homeless man born and brought up in BARKING now a man in the minority. PETERBOURGH over 100 different languages spoken. Doctors waiting list in some areas 3 to 12 waiting time to see your own doctor. Pritti Patel ask the main departments to the goverment the cost of immigration there are no cost kept. I love britain i want to retain the British way of life for the good of our children. There are some good points about immigration but Car Cleaners Big Issue sellers and Beggers we dont need. cosmick
  • Score: 20

8:59pm Mon 10 Mar 14

cosmick says...

DavidJG wrote:
I have met many, possibly hundreds, of UKIP members and supporters - and not one of them gives any indication of being a fascist. Where on earth did you get the idea of rounding people up? It is, I hope, only the work of an overactive imagination. Many in UKIP have been in HM Forces ready to fight for their country to assist Europe out of trouble - not to be politically in it hook, line and sinker. UKIP has not moved to Dorchester - it has been there for years. It's just that now there are hundreds of supporters here and throughout West Dorset who are honest, loyal working folk of all ages. They will be as shocked to read your description of them just as I am. Please don't belittle people with a different political agenda to yourself (and, I wonder whether you vent your anger at all the other parties who fail to meet your expectations). Offensive? I should say so.
Well put DavidJG. The support for UKIP grows every day, cant wait for MAY the 22ND. Then they can come on here and put there twisted thoughts after seeing UKIP won the election and they will feel rather silly.
[quote][p][bold]DavidJG[/bold] wrote: I have met many, possibly hundreds, of UKIP members and supporters - and not one of them gives any indication of being a fascist. Where on earth did you get the idea of rounding people up? It is, I hope, only the work of an overactive imagination. Many in UKIP have been in HM Forces ready to fight for their country to assist Europe out of trouble - not to be politically in it hook, line and sinker. UKIP has not moved to Dorchester - it has been there for years. It's just that now there are hundreds of supporters here and throughout West Dorset who are honest, loyal working folk of all ages. They will be as shocked to read your description of them just as I am. Please don't belittle people with a different political agenda to yourself (and, I wonder whether you vent your anger at all the other parties who fail to meet your expectations). Offensive? I should say so.[/p][/quote]Well put DavidJG. The support for UKIP grows every day, cant wait for MAY the 22ND. Then they can come on here and put there twisted thoughts after seeing UKIP won the election and they will feel rather silly. cosmick
  • Score: 56

9:22pm Mon 10 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

I have no doubts that UKIP will do well in the European elections as their popular anti European sound bites will attract both the euro sceptic and the protest vote. That said I have no doubt that come the general election they will be exposed as having no real workable policies and their popularity will mainly have a detrimental affect on the Tory vote. Don't get me wrong I am no lover of the Tories, Lib Dem's or New Labour and UKIP will rapidly join them as being totally irrelevant to the populous.
I have no doubts that UKIP will do well in the European elections as their popular anti European sound bites will attract both the euro sceptic and the protest vote. That said I have no doubt that come the general election they will be exposed as having no real workable policies and their popularity will mainly have a detrimental affect on the Tory vote. Don't get me wrong I am no lover of the Tories, Lib Dem's or New Labour and UKIP will rapidly join them as being totally irrelevant to the populous. woodsedge
  • Score: -5

9:26pm Mon 10 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

cosmick wrote:
Where shall i start.
EDUCATION, Over 240 schools in Britain where English bis not the first language spoken. One in nine schools where the majority of children not British,Where are they/ KIRKLEES/ LUTON/ ROCHDALE/ HILLINGDON/ TOWER HAMLETS/ LANCASHIRE/ NEWHAM/ BRADFORD/ BIRMINGHAM/
How can you teach our children in those schools this is against there interest from day one.
A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.
CRIME Fraudsters from the e/ u to blame for 92% of A.T.M. crime.
Rommanians classed as Self Empoloyed selling the BIG ISSUE so they are able to get a N.I number and claim Benifits.
The cost to the British tax payer of 98 MILLION pounds a year to keep E/U prison population .
Then thanks to the E/U HUMAN RIGHTS ACT we cannot deport them.
Housing if an E/U person gets a N.I NUMBER they are vthen entitled to the same benifits as we are, If vthey end up with more points than you ,you go DOWN THE LIST.
Did you see QUESTION TIME last week, a homeless man born and brought up in BARKING now a man in the minority.
PETERBOURGH over 100 different languages spoken.
Doctors waiting list in some areas 3 to 12 waiting time to see your own doctor.
Pritti Patel ask the main departments to the goverment the cost of immigration
there are no cost kept.
I love britain i want to retain the British way of life for the good of our children.
There are some good points about immigration but Car Cleaners Big Issue sellers and Beggers we dont need.
I tell you what Cosmick, all you have done is expose the complete inaccuracies and the dirge that UKIP turn out. If I had the energy I would respond to your 'facts' but I do not have the will power, and I think that your post says more about UKIP and it's supporters than I ever could.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Where shall i start. EDUCATION, Over 240 schools in Britain where English bis not the first language spoken. One in nine schools where the majority of children not British,Where are they/ KIRKLEES/ LUTON/ ROCHDALE/ HILLINGDON/ TOWER HAMLETS/ LANCASHIRE/ NEWHAM/ BRADFORD/ BIRMINGHAM/ How can you teach our children in those schools this is against there interest from day one. A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. CRIME Fraudsters from the e/ u to blame for 92% of A.T.M. crime. Rommanians classed as Self Empoloyed selling the BIG ISSUE so they are able to get a N.I number and claim Benifits. The cost to the British tax payer of 98 MILLION pounds a year to keep E/U prison population . Then thanks to the E/U HUMAN RIGHTS ACT we cannot deport them. Housing if an E/U person gets a N.I NUMBER they are vthen entitled to the same benifits as we are, If vthey end up with more points than you ,you go DOWN THE LIST. Did you see QUESTION TIME last week, a homeless man born and brought up in BARKING now a man in the minority. PETERBOURGH over 100 different languages spoken. Doctors waiting list in some areas 3 to 12 waiting time to see your own doctor. Pritti Patel ask the main departments to the goverment the cost of immigration there are no cost kept. I love britain i want to retain the British way of life for the good of our children. There are some good points about immigration but Car Cleaners Big Issue sellers and Beggers we dont need.[/p][/quote]I tell you what Cosmick, all you have done is expose the complete inaccuracies and the dirge that UKIP turn out. If I had the energy I would respond to your 'facts' but I do not have the will power, and I think that your post says more about UKIP and it's supporters than I ever could. woodsedge
  • Score: -5

9:26pm Mon 10 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

cosmick wrote:
Where shall i start.
EDUCATION, Over 240 schools in Britain where English bis not the first language spoken. One in nine schools where the majority of children not British,Where are they/ KIRKLEES/ LUTON/ ROCHDALE/ HILLINGDON/ TOWER HAMLETS/ LANCASHIRE/ NEWHAM/ BRADFORD/ BIRMINGHAM/
How can you teach our children in those schools this is against there interest from day one.
A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.
CRIME Fraudsters from the e/ u to blame for 92% of A.T.M. crime.
Rommanians classed as Self Empoloyed selling the BIG ISSUE so they are able to get a N.I number and claim Benifits.
The cost to the British tax payer of 98 MILLION pounds a year to keep E/U prison population .
Then thanks to the E/U HUMAN RIGHTS ACT we cannot deport them.
Housing if an E/U person gets a N.I NUMBER they are vthen entitled to the same benifits as we are, If vthey end up with more points than you ,you go DOWN THE LIST.
Did you see QUESTION TIME last week, a homeless man born and brought up in BARKING now a man in the minority.
PETERBOURGH over 100 different languages spoken.
Doctors waiting list in some areas 3 to 12 waiting time to see your own doctor.
Pritti Patel ask the main departments to the goverment the cost of immigration
there are no cost kept.
I love britain i want to retain the British way of life for the good of our children.
There are some good points about immigration but Car Cleaners Big Issue sellers and Beggers we dont need.
I tell you what Cosmick, all you have done is expose the complete inaccuracies and the dirge that UKIP turn out. If I had the energy I would respond to your 'facts' but I do not have the will power, and I think that your post says more about UKIP and it's supporters than I ever could.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Where shall i start. EDUCATION, Over 240 schools in Britain where English bis not the first language spoken. One in nine schools where the majority of children not British,Where are they/ KIRKLEES/ LUTON/ ROCHDALE/ HILLINGDON/ TOWER HAMLETS/ LANCASHIRE/ NEWHAM/ BRADFORD/ BIRMINGHAM/ How can you teach our children in those schools this is against there interest from day one. A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. CRIME Fraudsters from the e/ u to blame for 92% of A.T.M. crime. Rommanians classed as Self Empoloyed selling the BIG ISSUE so they are able to get a N.I number and claim Benifits. The cost to the British tax payer of 98 MILLION pounds a year to keep E/U prison population . Then thanks to the E/U HUMAN RIGHTS ACT we cannot deport them. Housing if an E/U person gets a N.I NUMBER they are vthen entitled to the same benifits as we are, If vthey end up with more points than you ,you go DOWN THE LIST. Did you see QUESTION TIME last week, a homeless man born and brought up in BARKING now a man in the minority. PETERBOURGH over 100 different languages spoken. Doctors waiting list in some areas 3 to 12 waiting time to see your own doctor. Pritti Patel ask the main departments to the goverment the cost of immigration there are no cost kept. I love britain i want to retain the British way of life for the good of our children. There are some good points about immigration but Car Cleaners Big Issue sellers and Beggers we dont need.[/p][/quote]I tell you what Cosmick, all you have done is expose the complete inaccuracies and the dirge that UKIP turn out. If I had the energy I would respond to your 'facts' but I do not have the will power, and I think that your post says more about UKIP and it's supporters than I ever could. woodsedge
  • Score: -10

9:56pm Mon 10 Mar 14

cosmick says...

woodsedge wrote:
cosmick wrote:
Where shall i start.
EDUCATION, Over 240 schools in Britain where English bis not the first language spoken. One in nine schools where the majority of children not British,Where are they/ KIRKLEES/ LUTON/ ROCHDALE/ HILLINGDON/ TOWER HAMLETS/ LANCASHIRE/ NEWHAM/ BRADFORD/ BIRMINGHAM/
How can you teach our children in those schools this is against there interest from day one.
A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.
CRIME Fraudsters from the e/ u to blame for 92% of A.T.M. crime.
Rommanians classed as Self Empoloyed selling the BIG ISSUE so they are able to get a N.I number and claim Benifits.
The cost to the British tax payer of 98 MILLION pounds a year to keep E/U prison population .
Then thanks to the E/U HUMAN RIGHTS ACT we cannot deport them.
Housing if an E/U person gets a N.I NUMBER they are vthen entitled to the same benifits as we are, If vthey end up with more points than you ,you go DOWN THE LIST.
Did you see QUESTION TIME last week, a homeless man born and brought up in BARKING now a man in the minority.
PETERBOURGH over 100 different languages spoken.
Doctors waiting list in some areas 3 to 12 waiting time to see your own doctor.
Pritti Patel ask the main departments to the goverment the cost of immigration
there are no cost kept.
I love britain i want to retain the British way of life for the good of our children.
There are some good points about immigration but Car Cleaners Big Issue sellers and Beggers we dont need.
I tell you what Cosmick, all you have done is expose the complete inaccuracies and the dirge that UKIP turn out. If I had the energy I would respond to your 'facts' but I do not have the will power, and I think that your post says more about UKIP and it's supporters than I ever could.
So what your saying is the truth hurts. All facts all i have stated you, yes you will be able to check . ANYTHING THAT IS NOT TRUE IN YOUR VEIW I WILL TELL YOU WHERE TO SEE THE FACTS.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Where shall i start. EDUCATION, Over 240 schools in Britain where English bis not the first language spoken. One in nine schools where the majority of children not British,Where are they/ KIRKLEES/ LUTON/ ROCHDALE/ HILLINGDON/ TOWER HAMLETS/ LANCASHIRE/ NEWHAM/ BRADFORD/ BIRMINGHAM/ How can you teach our children in those schools this is against there interest from day one. A school in SOUTHAMPTON 62 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. CRIME Fraudsters from the e/ u to blame for 92% of A.T.M. crime. Rommanians classed as Self Empoloyed selling the BIG ISSUE so they are able to get a N.I number and claim Benifits. The cost to the British tax payer of 98 MILLION pounds a year to keep E/U prison population . Then thanks to the E/U HUMAN RIGHTS ACT we cannot deport them. Housing if an E/U person gets a N.I NUMBER they are vthen entitled to the same benifits as we are, If vthey end up with more points than you ,you go DOWN THE LIST. Did you see QUESTION TIME last week, a homeless man born and brought up in BARKING now a man in the minority. PETERBOURGH over 100 different languages spoken. Doctors waiting list in some areas 3 to 12 waiting time to see your own doctor. Pritti Patel ask the main departments to the goverment the cost of immigration there are no cost kept. I love britain i want to retain the British way of life for the good of our children. There are some good points about immigration but Car Cleaners Big Issue sellers and Beggers we dont need.[/p][/quote]I tell you what Cosmick, all you have done is expose the complete inaccuracies and the dirge that UKIP turn out. If I had the energy I would respond to your 'facts' but I do not have the will power, and I think that your post says more about UKIP and it's supporters than I ever could.[/p][/quote]So what your saying is the truth hurts. All facts all i have stated you, yes you will be able to check . ANYTHING THAT IS NOT TRUE IN YOUR VEIW I WILL TELL YOU WHERE TO SEE THE FACTS. cosmick
  • Score: 7

9:50am Tue 11 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist! inquiringmind
  • Score: 79

9:54am Tue 11 Mar 14

Dorset stuff says...

I shall retract my comments about UKIP supporters being working/Non Working class. That is indeed inaccurate. It seems thier voters come from all walks of life, White British. As someone posted earlier about soiling your own hotel bed in protest and then having to sleep there, that hit the nail on the head. We DO NOT live in a purely Bristish culture anymore. We live in a culture that for the majority accepts people from different countries and ways of life. This experience makes us all the more richer and diverse. What would make us broke and annexed is if UKIP got elected and took us out of Europe. Exports would fail, import costs would go sky high and we would be the laughing stock of the world. Lets just pretend that the worst happened, would you really want that man running our country? He could not, he can barely walk down the street without saying something ridiculous while he waves his cigarette around. If you do not want to vote then quite simply you do not have to. You can show a vote of no confidence.
I shall retract my comments about UKIP supporters being working/Non Working class. That is indeed inaccurate. It seems thier voters come from all walks of life, White British. As someone posted earlier about soiling your own hotel bed in protest and then having to sleep there, that hit the nail on the head. We DO NOT live in a purely Bristish culture anymore. We live in a culture that for the majority accepts people from different countries and ways of life. This experience makes us all the more richer and diverse. What would make us broke and annexed is if UKIP got elected and took us out of Europe. Exports would fail, import costs would go sky high and we would be the laughing stock of the world. Lets just pretend that the worst happened, would you really want that man running our country? He could not, he can barely walk down the street without saying something ridiculous while he waves his cigarette around. If you do not want to vote then quite simply you do not have to. You can show a vote of no confidence. Dorset stuff
  • Score: -13

10:07am Tue 11 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
I shall retract my comments about UKIP supporters being working/Non Working class. That is indeed inaccurate. It seems thier voters come from all walks of life, White British. As someone posted earlier about soiling your own hotel bed in protest and then having to sleep there, that hit the nail on the head. We DO NOT live in a purely Bristish culture anymore. We live in a culture that for the majority accepts people from different countries and ways of life. This experience makes us all the more richer and diverse. What would make us broke and annexed is if UKIP got elected and took us out of Europe. Exports would fail, import costs would go sky high and we would be the laughing stock of the world. Lets just pretend that the worst happened, would you really want that man running our country? He could not, he can barely walk down the street without saying something ridiculous while he waves his cigarette around. If you do not want to vote then quite simply you do not have to. You can show a vote of no confidence.
British commonwealth citizens support that more rich and diverse life and we thank UKIP for supporting us! We will vote for UKIP and hope that when the UK comes out of the EU it will once again have full and unrestricted trade agreements with the rest of the WORLD and will choose to allow more people from outside of the EU to come and study, work and live in the UK.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: I shall retract my comments about UKIP supporters being working/Non Working class. That is indeed inaccurate. It seems thier voters come from all walks of life, White British. As someone posted earlier about soiling your own hotel bed in protest and then having to sleep there, that hit the nail on the head. We DO NOT live in a purely Bristish culture anymore. We live in a culture that for the majority accepts people from different countries and ways of life. This experience makes us all the more richer and diverse. What would make us broke and annexed is if UKIP got elected and took us out of Europe. Exports would fail, import costs would go sky high and we would be the laughing stock of the world. Lets just pretend that the worst happened, would you really want that man running our country? He could not, he can barely walk down the street without saying something ridiculous while he waves his cigarette around. If you do not want to vote then quite simply you do not have to. You can show a vote of no confidence.[/p][/quote]British commonwealth citizens support that more rich and diverse life and we thank UKIP for supporting us! We will vote for UKIP and hope that when the UK comes out of the EU it will once again have full and unrestricted trade agreements with the rest of the WORLD and will choose to allow more people from outside of the EU to come and study, work and live in the UK. inquiringmind
  • Score: 62

10:33am Tue 11 Mar 14

cosmick says...

inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
[quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE). cosmick
  • Score: 71

10:38am Tue 11 Mar 14

DavidJG says...

What a lot of nonsense has been written about UKIP in the past fifteen hours or so. Those who want UKIP to stay away/cease trying to get a more honest and open government in the UK are themselves adopting the fascist style of which they wrongly claim UKIP is a proponent. "I don't like your politics and therefore you must go" is not acceptable or worthy of being included in any serious debate. "Dorset Stuff" subscribes to a very ignorant view of UKIP, Europe and the World. There are a large number of ethnic minorities who support the view that immigration now needs to be curbed. What is his proof that exports will fall, import costs will "go sky high"; these are just groundless scare-mongering tactics poured out by the real parliamentary clown called Nick Clegg. He seems to be spending more time denouncing the virtues of a 4th party than promoting his own party politics, which are ??? No, we should stop name calling, a juvenile excuse for not bothering to present soundly based arguments, and start reading policy material rather than relying on newspapers - each one has a political bent which distorts other peoples' views and opinions..
What a lot of nonsense has been written about UKIP in the past fifteen hours or so. Those who want UKIP to stay away/cease trying to get a more honest and open government in the UK are themselves adopting the fascist style of which they wrongly claim UKIP is a proponent. "I don't like your politics and therefore you must go" is not acceptable or worthy of being included in any serious debate. "Dorset Stuff" subscribes to a very ignorant view of UKIP, Europe and the World. There are a large number of ethnic minorities who support the view that immigration now needs to be curbed. What is his proof that exports will fall, import costs will "go sky high"; these are just groundless scare-mongering tactics poured out by the real parliamentary clown called Nick Clegg. He seems to be spending more time denouncing the virtues of a 4th party than promoting his own party politics, which are ??? No, we should stop name calling, a juvenile excuse for not bothering to present soundly based arguments, and start reading policy material rather than relying on newspapers - each one has a political bent which distorts other peoples' views and opinions.. DavidJG
  • Score: 62

10:42am Tue 11 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
I shall retract my comments about UKIP supporters being working/Non Working class. That is indeed inaccurate. It seems thier voters come from all walks of life, White British. As someone posted earlier about soiling your own hotel bed in protest and then having to sleep there, that hit the nail on the head. We DO NOT live in a purely Bristish culture anymore. We live in a culture that for the majority accepts people from different countries and ways of life. This experience makes us all the more richer and diverse. What would make us broke and annexed is if UKIP got elected and took us out of Europe. Exports would fail, import costs would go sky high and we would be the laughing stock of the world. Lets just pretend that the worst happened, would you really want that man running our country? He could not, he can barely walk down the street without saying something ridiculous while he waves his cigarette around. If you do not want to vote then quite simply you do not have to. You can show a vote of no confidence.
Could you please give us the evidence that exports would fall etc.
Why would import cost go sky high?
Laughing stock of the world! Many other countrys would be sorry that they could not pull out of the E/U also.
You can make comments about cigarettes and comments but will that improve your point of view or make you look silly?
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: I shall retract my comments about UKIP supporters being working/Non Working class. That is indeed inaccurate. It seems thier voters come from all walks of life, White British. As someone posted earlier about soiling your own hotel bed in protest and then having to sleep there, that hit the nail on the head. We DO NOT live in a purely Bristish culture anymore. We live in a culture that for the majority accepts people from different countries and ways of life. This experience makes us all the more richer and diverse. What would make us broke and annexed is if UKIP got elected and took us out of Europe. Exports would fail, import costs would go sky high and we would be the laughing stock of the world. Lets just pretend that the worst happened, would you really want that man running our country? He could not, he can barely walk down the street without saying something ridiculous while he waves his cigarette around. If you do not want to vote then quite simply you do not have to. You can show a vote of no confidence.[/p][/quote]Could you please give us the evidence that exports would fall etc. Why would import cost go sky high? Laughing stock of the world! Many other countrys would be sorry that they could not pull out of the E/U also. You can make comments about cigarettes and comments but will that improve your point of view or make you look silly? cosmick
  • Score: 27

10:53am Tue 11 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community. inquiringmind
  • Score: 50

11:47am Tue 11 Mar 14

Dorset stuff says...

This is the problem, if you do not already know why it would be bad to pull out of the EU then you have no right to say vote for UKIP. Learn the facts first, there are many, too many to list on here.
This is the problem, if you do not already know why it would be bad to pull out of the EU then you have no right to say vote for UKIP. Learn the facts first, there are many, too many to list on here. Dorset stuff
  • Score: -10

12:07pm Tue 11 Mar 14

DavidJG says...

Here we go again. I will counter this last point by saying that if you do know the FACTS about the benefits to be had by pulling out of the EU, you have every right to vote UKIP. The argument must be against those who refuse to take on board that there is absolutely no evidence behind most of the scaremongering stories used by the LibDems to put people off voting to leave the EU. When all is done and dusted, it is the electorate who will ultimately make the decision to stay in or leave. I would urge every one who has registered to vote to use that vote. Even if the decision goes for "more of the same" I hope that it will be by a substantial majority of an exceptionally large turnout. To the detractors of UKIP I say that such a vote is the only way they will defeat the increasing number of people who are indicating that they will vote for UKIP.
Here we go again. I will counter this last point by saying that if you do know the FACTS about the benefits to be had by pulling out of the EU, you have every right to vote UKIP. The argument must be against those who refuse to take on board that there is absolutely no evidence behind most of the scaremongering stories used by the LibDems to put people off voting to leave the EU. When all is done and dusted, it is the electorate who will ultimately make the decision to stay in or leave. I would urge every one who has registered to vote to use that vote. Even if the decision goes for "more of the same" I hope that it will be by a substantial majority of an exceptionally large turnout. To the detractors of UKIP I say that such a vote is the only way they will defeat the increasing number of people who are indicating that they will vote for UKIP. DavidJG
  • Score: 61

12:37pm Tue 11 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

DavidJG wrote:
Here we go again. I will counter this last point by saying that if you do know the FACTS about the benefits to be had by pulling out of the EU, you have every right to vote UKIP. The argument must be against those who refuse to take on board that there is absolutely no evidence behind most of the scaremongering stories used by the LibDems to put people off voting to leave the EU. When all is done and dusted, it is the electorate who will ultimately make the decision to stay in or leave. I would urge every one who has registered to vote to use that vote. Even if the decision goes for "more of the same" I hope that it will be by a substantial majority of an exceptionally large turnout. To the detractors of UKIP I say that such a vote is the only way they will defeat the increasing number of people who are indicating that they will vote for UKIP.
If you believe that the "electorate" will ever get a vote on coming out of Europe you are sadly mistaken. UKIP's protect vote at the general election will not be enough to get them elected, and the Tories will never put it to the vote. Labour have no intention of turning their back on Europe so the electorate are pretty much stuffed!
[quote][p][bold]DavidJG[/bold] wrote: Here we go again. I will counter this last point by saying that if you do know the FACTS about the benefits to be had by pulling out of the EU, you have every right to vote UKIP. The argument must be against those who refuse to take on board that there is absolutely no evidence behind most of the scaremongering stories used by the LibDems to put people off voting to leave the EU. When all is done and dusted, it is the electorate who will ultimately make the decision to stay in or leave. I would urge every one who has registered to vote to use that vote. Even if the decision goes for "more of the same" I hope that it will be by a substantial majority of an exceptionally large turnout. To the detractors of UKIP I say that such a vote is the only way they will defeat the increasing number of people who are indicating that they will vote for UKIP.[/p][/quote]If you believe that the "electorate" will ever get a vote on coming out of Europe you are sadly mistaken. UKIP's protect vote at the general election will not be enough to get them elected, and the Tories will never put it to the vote. Labour have no intention of turning their back on Europe so the electorate are pretty much stuffed! woodsedge
  • Score: 0

1:37pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
[quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -8

4:00pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Dorset stuff says...

Fortunately UKIP is the minority, long may it continue. As an aside I had a read on UKIP's website, it was like reading an agenda from the 50's. Way out of touch.
Fortunately UKIP is the minority, long may it continue. As an aside I had a read on UKIP's website, it was like reading an agenda from the 50's. Way out of touch. Dorset stuff
  • Score: -9

4:06pm Tue 11 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries. inquiringmind
  • Score: 58

4:19pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
So you think that the manifesto says They will expel all non white christians from the country.
WHAT DRUGS ARE YOU ON AGAIN.
YOU WOULD NOT KNOW A MANIFESTO IF SOMEONE GAVE YOU ONE, I DONT THINK THEY WILL BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT UNDERSTAND IT.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]So you think that the manifesto says They will expel all non white christians from the country. WHAT DRUGS ARE YOU ON AGAIN. YOU WOULD NOT KNOW A MANIFESTO IF SOMEONE GAVE YOU ONE, I DONT THINK THEY WILL BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT UNDERSTAND IT. cosmick
  • Score: 7

4:32pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cosmick says...

UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.
UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details. cosmick
  • Score: 69

4:39pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
[quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -17

4:54pm Tue 11 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

cosmick wrote:
UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.
Thanks but no thanks.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.[/p][/quote]Thanks but no thanks. woodsedge
  • Score: 0

5:04pm Tue 11 Mar 14

ronfogg says...

It's interesting that the majority of posters in the on-line forum seem to be UK supporters. Contrasts with the 4% UKIP polled in the last general election (South Dorset and West Dorset). I expect them to get about 25-30% in the 2014 European election (SW England) and then drop back to 5-10% in the 2015 General election (South and West Dorset) (unless Mr. Drax defects by then).
It's interesting that the majority of posters in the on-line forum seem to be UK supporters. Contrasts with the 4% UKIP polled in the last general election (South Dorset and West Dorset). I expect them to get about 25-30% in the 2014 European election (SW England) and then drop back to 5-10% in the 2015 General election (South and West Dorset) (unless Mr. Drax defects by then). ronfogg
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Tue 11 Mar 14

ronfogg says...

ronfogg wrote:
It's interesting that the majority of posters in the on-line forum seem to be UK supporters. Contrasts with the 4% UKIP polled in the last general election (South Dorset and West Dorset). I expect them to get about 25-30% in the 2014 European election (SW England) and then drop back to 5-10% in the 2015 General election (South and West Dorset) (unless Mr. Drax defects by then).
should have said "UKIP" supporters
[quote][p][bold]ronfogg[/bold] wrote: It's interesting that the majority of posters in the on-line forum seem to be UK supporters. Contrasts with the 4% UKIP polled in the last general election (South Dorset and West Dorset). I expect them to get about 25-30% in the 2014 European election (SW England) and then drop back to 5-10% in the 2015 General election (South and West Dorset) (unless Mr. Drax defects by then).[/p][/quote]should have said "UKIP" supporters ronfogg
  • Score: 0

5:09pm Tue 11 Mar 14

DavidJG says...

Oh come on Parkstreetshuffle! Just where did you pick up this rubbish? I am unaware of any UKIP manifesto having "small print". Since UKIP have been in existence for only 50 years they can hardly have dug it up from copies dated the 50s. If you have a copy of the manifesto from which your quote, I would imagine that it might date from the very early days. I am glad to say that as UKIP have come of age their policies have matured, become more reasoned and more compatible with todays multi-cultural society. Please don't try and divide UKIP membership as if you were a Victorian general in Africa - it just doesn't wash! You should really try reading something other than comics to see that UKIP is not anti-immigration - it is anti uncontrolled immigration and there is a monumental difference in that. Any how, the electorate will decide who they want and ignore your unsubstantiated waffle.
Oh come on Parkstreetshuffle! Just where did you pick up this rubbish? I am unaware of any UKIP manifesto having "small print". Since UKIP have been in existence for only 50 years they can hardly have dug it up from copies dated the 50s. If you have a copy of the manifesto from which your quote, I would imagine that it might date from the very early days. I am glad to say that as UKIP have come of age their policies have matured, become more reasoned and more compatible with todays multi-cultural society. Please don't try and divide UKIP membership as if you were a Victorian general in Africa - it just doesn't wash! You should really try reading something other than comics to see that UKIP is not anti-immigration - it is anti uncontrolled immigration and there is a monumental difference in that. Any how, the electorate will decide who they want and ignore your unsubstantiated waffle. DavidJG
  • Score: 53

5:35pm Tue 11 Mar 14

westbaywonder says...

Just glad i have no children and will not be on this earth in another 50 years time!
English born and bred and watching the slow death of our Motherland year after year.
Just glad i have no children and will not be on this earth in another 50 years time! English born and bred and watching the slow death of our Motherland year after year. westbaywonder
  • Score: 6

6:02pm Tue 11 Mar 14

ronfogg says...

Actually UKIP's only been going for 20 years. Originally it was primarily an anti-EU party, appealing to the left and the right. After 4 years the first leader, "left in a huff, and said of his fellow party members 'they are racist and have been infected by the far right' and '"UKIP is even less liberal than the British National Party (BNP). Certainly, there is a symbiosis between elements of the parties.'" UKIP infighting has been a feature over the years.
Actually UKIP's only been going for 20 years. Originally it was primarily an anti-EU party, appealing to the left and the right. After 4 years the first leader, "left in a huff, and said of his fellow party members 'they are racist and have been infected by the far right' and '"UKIP is even less liberal than the British National Party (BNP). Certainly, there is a symbiosis between elements of the parties.'" UKIP infighting has been a feature over the years. ronfogg
  • Score: -4

6:25pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Bert Fry says...

inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Interesting bit about VW - "you don't think VW will stop selling cars in BRITIAN(sic) do you?"
In 2009 VW sold about 6.3million vehicles worldwide of which about 150000 were sold in the UK.
So, in short VW have carried the extra cost and complexity of production runs to build RHD cars for the UK and this accounts for a fraction over 2% of their total car production.
Would they bother with this extra complication for just 2% of vehicle sales if we were outside of the European Union. I don't know and neither do you but at least accept that it is a risk.
[quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Interesting bit about VW - "you don't think VW will stop selling cars in BRITIAN(sic) do you?" In 2009 VW sold about 6.3million vehicles worldwide of which about 150000 were sold in the UK. So, in short VW have carried the extra cost and complexity of production runs to build RHD cars for the UK and this accounts for a fraction over 2% of their total car production. Would they bother with this extra complication for just 2% of vehicle sales if we were outside of the European Union. I don't know and neither do you but at least accept that it is a risk. Bert Fry
  • Score: 0

6:59pm Tue 11 Mar 14

ronfogg says...

Bert Fry wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Interesting bit about VW - "you don't think VW will stop selling cars in BRITIAN(sic) do you?"
In 2009 VW sold about 6.3million vehicles worldwide of which about 150000 were sold in the UK.
So, in short VW have carried the extra cost and complexity of production runs to build RHD cars for the UK and this accounts for a fraction over 2% of their total car production.
Would they bother with this extra complication for just 2% of vehicle sales if we were outside of the European Union. I don't know and neither do you but at least accept that it is a risk.
Actually a third of the world population live in countries that drive on the left, Currently only 10% of miles driven is on the left but that will rise in the future as Indians buy more cars.

Countries that drive on the left include Ireland, Malta, Crete, Australia, NZ, South Africa, India (that's 1.2 billion people), Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Japan, Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, etc.
[quote][p][bold]Bert Fry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Interesting bit about VW - "you don't think VW will stop selling cars in BRITIAN(sic) do you?" In 2009 VW sold about 6.3million vehicles worldwide of which about 150000 were sold in the UK. So, in short VW have carried the extra cost and complexity of production runs to build RHD cars for the UK and this accounts for a fraction over 2% of their total car production. Would they bother with this extra complication for just 2% of vehicle sales if we were outside of the European Union. I don't know and neither do you but at least accept that it is a risk.[/p][/quote]Actually a third of the world population live in countries that drive on the left, Currently only 10% of miles driven is on the left but that will rise in the future as Indians buy more cars. Countries that drive on the left include Ireland, Malta, Crete, Australia, NZ, South Africa, India (that's 1.2 billion people), Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Japan, Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, etc. ronfogg
  • Score: 0

7:04pm Tue 11 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me. inquiringmind
  • Score: 69

7:14pm Tue 11 Mar 14

highbloodpressure says...

I dislike UKIP for many reasons.
Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write.
UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik.
UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted.
UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals.
UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage.
I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything.
UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear.
My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters.
I dislike UKIP for many reasons. Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write. UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik. UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted. UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals. UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage. I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything. UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear. My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters. highbloodpressure
  • Score: -11

7:23pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

elloello1980 wrote:
cosmick wrote:
Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life. The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so.
please explain why it was not good for the country?

Apart from it getting up the backs of the nation's racists and facists.
Just because people with common-sense and logic understand finite resources can not sustain rapid unhindered population growth does not make them a facist or racist for that matter. Flinging inappropriate emotive terms around only highlights your intolerance to have a reasonable educated debate on what is a serious issue that effects everybody who lives in the UK. Also have you even bothered to research the party manifest....I suspect we know the answer to that one.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life. The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so.[/p][/quote]please explain why it was not good for the country? Apart from it getting up the backs of the nation's racists and facists.[/p][/quote]Just because people with common-sense and logic understand finite resources can not sustain rapid unhindered population growth does not make them a facist or racist for that matter. Flinging inappropriate emotive terms around only highlights your intolerance to have a reasonable educated debate on what is a serious issue that effects everybody who lives in the UK. Also have you even bothered to research the party manifest....I suspect we know the answer to that one. cj07589
  • Score: 55

7:24pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp.
Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions.
I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...
Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...[/p][/quote]Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add? cj07589
  • Score: 6

7:32pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip.
You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity.
There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority.

So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?
[quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.[/p][/quote]Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip. You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity. There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority. So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor? Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -14

7:38pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

cj07589 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp.
Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions.
I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...
Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?
Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp.
Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...[/p][/quote]Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?[/p][/quote]Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp. Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -8

7:41pm Tue 11 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

cj07589 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp.
Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions.
I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...
Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?
So much for the "reasonable educated debate" just about sums up UKIP supporters, lose the argument and resort to name calling.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...[/p][/quote]Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?[/p][/quote]So much for the "reasonable educated debate" just about sums up UKIP supporters, lose the argument and resort to name calling. woodsedge
  • Score: -11

7:47pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

cosmick wrote:
UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.
Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs. cj07589
  • Score: 63

7:49pm Tue 11 Mar 14

highbloodpressure says...

cj, good to read your reasoned debating skills once more. If anyone disagrees with you they must be left wing lunatics. As I posted earlier, UKIP does seem to attract your kind.

Without feelings of respect, what is there to distinguish men from beasts?
cj, good to read your reasoned debating skills once more. If anyone disagrees with you they must be left wing lunatics. As I posted earlier, UKIP does seem to attract your kind. Without feelings of respect, what is there to distinguish men from beasts? highbloodpressure
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp.
Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions.
I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...
Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?
Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp.
Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life.
I am mearly responding with the typically labelling retorts so often thrown around by the liberal lefties. So proving the point that name calling because someone has a different perspective/vantage on a wide and complex issue is quite pointless and unhelpful.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...[/p][/quote]Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?[/p][/quote]Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp. Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life.[/p][/quote]I am mearly responding with the typically labelling retorts so often thrown around by the liberal lefties. So proving the point that name calling because someone has a different perspective/vantage on a wide and complex issue is quite pointless and unhelpful. cj07589
  • Score: 3

7:52pm Tue 11 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

cj07589 wrote:
cosmick wrote:
UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.
Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs.
The reality is UKIP won't get in, if the Tories get in they will renege on the 'promised' referendum and Labour and the Lib Dem's are pro Europe. Your protest vote will mean absolutely nothing.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs.[/p][/quote]The reality is UKIP won't get in, if the Tories get in they will renege on the 'promised' referendum and Labour and the Lib Dem's are pro Europe. Your protest vote will mean absolutely nothing. woodsedge
  • Score: 0

7:57pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

highbloodpressure wrote:
cj, good to read your reasoned debating skills once more. If anyone disagrees with you they must be left wing lunatics. As I posted earlier, UKIP does seem to attract your kind.

Without feelings of respect, what is there to distinguish men from beasts?
I'm not tying to selling anything, it's plainly evident voting for Lib/lie/con is pointless and just repeats the continued cycle of despair. Surely that's easy to understand, also to reiterate another readers point that just because we exercise more care and diligence with immigration doesn't make you 'right wing'
[quote][p][bold]highbloodpressure[/bold] wrote: cj, good to read your reasoned debating skills once more. If anyone disagrees with you they must be left wing lunatics. As I posted earlier, UKIP does seem to attract your kind. Without feelings of respect, what is there to distinguish men from beasts?[/p][/quote]I'm not tying to selling anything, it's plainly evident voting for Lib/lie/con is pointless and just repeats the continued cycle of despair. Surely that's easy to understand, also to reiterate another readers point that just because we exercise more care and diligence with immigration doesn't make you 'right wing' cj07589
  • Score: 50

8:08pm Tue 11 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip.
You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity.
There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority.

So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?
West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.[/p][/quote]Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip. You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity. There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority. So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?[/p][/quote]West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not. inquiringmind
  • Score: 57

8:09pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

woodsedge wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
cosmick wrote:
UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.
Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs.
The reality is UKIP won't get in, if the Tories get in they will renege on the 'promised' referendum and Labour and the Lib Dem's are pro Europe. Your protest vote will mean absolutely nothing.
Hi Woodedge hope your well? As a realist I am prepared to concede you are probably correct, but I not prepared to vote for more of the same old rubbish from the same old lot all working the system in cohorts. I don't think UKIP are faultless or perfect but they are a main stream alternative now and at least Nigel Farage speaks with purpose and sense which is sorely needed given the recent spate of leaderless wonder prime ministers we've had to endure (namely Gordon bigot Brown, Call me Davy and B lair anti-peace rattler of the Middle East) Will be interesting to see what happens in May.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs.[/p][/quote]The reality is UKIP won't get in, if the Tories get in they will renege on the 'promised' referendum and Labour and the Lib Dem's are pro Europe. Your protest vote will mean absolutely nothing.[/p][/quote]Hi Woodedge hope your well? As a realist I am prepared to concede you are probably correct, but I not prepared to vote for more of the same old rubbish from the same old lot all working the system in cohorts. I don't think UKIP are faultless or perfect but they are a main stream alternative now and at least Nigel Farage speaks with purpose and sense which is sorely needed given the recent spate of leaderless wonder prime ministers we've had to endure (namely Gordon bigot Brown, Call me Davy and B lair anti-peace rattler of the Middle East) Will be interesting to see what happens in May. cj07589
  • Score: 56

8:14pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

highbloodpressure wrote:
I dislike UKIP for many reasons.
Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write.
UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik.
UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted.
UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals.
UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage.
I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything.
UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear.
My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters.
What a load of cobblers..........wh
ere do you get this complete and utter rubbish from? What worries me slightly more is you actually believe it as well!
[quote][p][bold]highbloodpressure[/bold] wrote: I dislike UKIP for many reasons. Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write. UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik. UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted. UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals. UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage. I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything. UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear. My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters.[/p][/quote]What a load of cobblers..........wh ere do you get this complete and utter rubbish from? What worries me slightly more is you actually believe it as well! cj07589
  • Score: 64

8:19pm Tue 11 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

cj07589 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
cosmick wrote:
UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.
Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs.
The reality is UKIP won't get in, if the Tories get in they will renege on the 'promised' referendum and Labour and the Lib Dem's are pro Europe. Your protest vote will mean absolutely nothing.
Hi Woodedge hope your well? As a realist I am prepared to concede you are probably correct, but I not prepared to vote for more of the same old rubbish from the same old lot all working the system in cohorts. I don't think UKIP are faultless or perfect but they are a main stream alternative now and at least Nigel Farage speaks with purpose and sense which is sorely needed given the recent spate of leaderless wonder prime ministers we've had to endure (namely Gordon bigot Brown, Call me Davy and B lair anti-peace rattler of the Middle East) Will be interesting to see what happens in May.
I am well cj and hope you also. I share in your frustration with the mainstream parties but do you honesty think that Labour or the Tories will take any notice of the UKIP protest vote when one of them get power following the next GE? That said I do not agree that Farage talks sense especially after he got caught out stating there was nothing wrong with a Enoch Powell "rivers of blood" speech and supported his "basic principles" on immigration. They continue to attract right wing extremist candidates, and it is easy to say what the electorate want to hear when there is no scrutiny of there policies.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs.[/p][/quote]The reality is UKIP won't get in, if the Tories get in they will renege on the 'promised' referendum and Labour and the Lib Dem's are pro Europe. Your protest vote will mean absolutely nothing.[/p][/quote]Hi Woodedge hope your well? As a realist I am prepared to concede you are probably correct, but I not prepared to vote for more of the same old rubbish from the same old lot all working the system in cohorts. I don't think UKIP are faultless or perfect but they are a main stream alternative now and at least Nigel Farage speaks with purpose and sense which is sorely needed given the recent spate of leaderless wonder prime ministers we've had to endure (namely Gordon bigot Brown, Call me Davy and B lair anti-peace rattler of the Middle East) Will be interesting to see what happens in May.[/p][/quote]I am well cj and hope you also. I share in your frustration with the mainstream parties but do you honesty think that Labour or the Tories will take any notice of the UKIP protest vote when one of them get power following the next GE? That said I do not agree that Farage talks sense especially after he got caught out stating there was nothing wrong with a Enoch Powell "rivers of blood" speech and supported his "basic principles" on immigration. They continue to attract right wing extremist candidates, and it is easy to say what the electorate want to hear when there is no scrutiny of there policies. woodsedge
  • Score: 0

8:28pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp.
Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions.
I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...
Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?
Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp.
Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life.
Intolerant hypocrite doesn't sum you up well enough I'm afraid. Whilst writing there is no such thing as 'normal' people, since people are individuals therefore inherently different surely as a culturally enlighten educated person you understand this?
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...[/p][/quote]Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?[/p][/quote]Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp. Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life.[/p][/quote]Intolerant hypocrite doesn't sum you up well enough I'm afraid. Whilst writing there is no such thing as 'normal' people, since people are individuals therefore inherently different surely as a culturally enlighten educated person you understand this? cj07589
  • Score: 2

9:03pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

woodsedge wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
cosmick wrote:
UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.
Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs.
The reality is UKIP won't get in, if the Tories get in they will renege on the 'promised' referendum and Labour and the Lib Dem's are pro Europe. Your protest vote will mean absolutely nothing.
Hi Woodedge hope your well? As a realist I am prepared to concede you are probably correct, but I not prepared to vote for more of the same old rubbish from the same old lot all working the system in cohorts. I don't think UKIP are faultless or perfect but they are a main stream alternative now and at least Nigel Farage speaks with purpose and sense which is sorely needed given the recent spate of leaderless wonder prime ministers we've had to endure (namely Gordon bigot Brown, Call me Davy and B lair anti-peace rattler of the Middle East) Will be interesting to see what happens in May.
I am well cj and hope you also. I share in your frustration with the mainstream parties but do you honesty think that Labour or the Tories will take any notice of the UKIP protest vote when one of them get power following the next GE? That said I do not agree that Farage talks sense especially after he got caught out stating there was nothing wrong with a Enoch Powell "rivers of blood" speech and supported his "basic principles" on immigration. They continue to attract right wing extremist candidates, and it is easy to say what the electorate want to hear when there is no scrutiny of there policies.
Yes it's a interesting situation, I suppose the best thing would be that they are offered more opportunity in the public arena so the undesirable elements are revealed. Not forgetting that labour already have Abbot and Harmen filling this niche. I do welcome the forth coming Nick Cleggy boy versus Farage televised debate. I fully expect Nigel to gain considerable support because he's speaks genuinely, is straight talking, applies common sense & purpose. I think he has admirable leadership qualities and has a sensible head with a good sense of humour too. After all how hard is it to do a better job than the last labour government? I'm 110% sure they would be no worse than 'war criminal' blair and 'calamity' brown's tenure which brought the country to it's knees.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: UKIP will wellcome all new members and helpers, meetings at Dorchester and Weymouth. Call the shop for details.[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I'm glad there is finally a main stream alternative to the lib/lie/con parties who have all sold us out to a wasteful wholly undemocratic bureaucracy who can't agree anything between them and are all cut from the same self serving cloth. I never agreed to be ruled via the back door conduit (Lisbon treaty) and certainly don't recognise value for the 58million pounds Stirling we contribute in high taxes everyday. I simply want my democratic right to vote on continuing our EU membership and will be voting UKIP. I hasten to add that if Scotland are to have the vote on independence then it's only correct we have a say on Europe and put a stop to it's constant meddling in our legal and civil affairs.[/p][/quote]The reality is UKIP won't get in, if the Tories get in they will renege on the 'promised' referendum and Labour and the Lib Dem's are pro Europe. Your protest vote will mean absolutely nothing.[/p][/quote]Hi Woodedge hope your well? As a realist I am prepared to concede you are probably correct, but I not prepared to vote for more of the same old rubbish from the same old lot all working the system in cohorts. I don't think UKIP are faultless or perfect but they are a main stream alternative now and at least Nigel Farage speaks with purpose and sense which is sorely needed given the recent spate of leaderless wonder prime ministers we've had to endure (namely Gordon bigot Brown, Call me Davy and B lair anti-peace rattler of the Middle East) Will be interesting to see what happens in May.[/p][/quote]I am well cj and hope you also. I share in your frustration with the mainstream parties but do you honesty think that Labour or the Tories will take any notice of the UKIP protest vote when one of them get power following the next GE? That said I do not agree that Farage talks sense especially after he got caught out stating there was nothing wrong with a Enoch Powell "rivers of blood" speech and supported his "basic principles" on immigration. They continue to attract right wing extremist candidates, and it is easy to say what the electorate want to hear when there is no scrutiny of there policies.[/p][/quote]Yes it's a interesting situation, I suppose the best thing would be that they are offered more opportunity in the public arena so the undesirable elements are revealed. Not forgetting that labour already have Abbot and Harmen filling this niche. I do welcome the forth coming Nick Cleggy boy versus Farage televised debate. I fully expect Nigel to gain considerable support because he's speaks genuinely, is straight talking, applies common sense & purpose. I think he has admirable leadership qualities and has a sensible head with a good sense of humour too. After all how hard is it to do a better job than the last labour government? I'm 110% sure they would be no worse than 'war criminal' blair and 'calamity' brown's tenure which brought the country to it's knees. cj07589
  • Score: 58

9:19pm Tue 11 Mar 14

highbloodpressure says...

I hope my information is duff because i would not want any active party in the UK to show anything but contempt for a murdering terrorist such as Breivik. but it seems that UKIP is or was part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). They includes the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is or was co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation." It seems that Farage threatened to resign but has not yet done so.
You can dismiss my other comments in any way you want. But as always, if you come across someone who disagrees with you, they are automatically branded in some petulant way. As I posted earlier, the UKIP supporters on this site, with a few exceptions, seem to be spiteful, reactionary and unwilling to discuss, debate or exchange any reasonable comments.
Certainly, this forum could not be considered as an effective recruiting office for UKIP.
I hope my information is duff because i would not want any active party in the UK to show anything but contempt for a murdering terrorist such as Breivik. but it seems that UKIP is or was part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). They includes the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is or was co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation." It seems that Farage threatened to resign but has not yet done so. You can dismiss my other comments in any way you want. But as always, if you come across someone who disagrees with you, they are automatically branded in some petulant way. As I posted earlier, the UKIP supporters on this site, with a few exceptions, seem to be spiteful, reactionary and unwilling to discuss, debate or exchange any reasonable comments. Certainly, this forum could not be considered as an effective recruiting office for UKIP. highbloodpressure
  • Score: -2

10:26pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cosmick says...

highbloodpressure wrote:
I hope my information is duff because i would not want any active party in the UK to show anything but contempt for a murdering terrorist such as Breivik. but it seems that UKIP is or was part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). They includes the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is or was co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation." It seems that Farage threatened to resign but has not yet done so.
You can dismiss my other comments in any way you want. But as always, if you come across someone who disagrees with you, they are automatically branded in some petulant way. As I posted earlier, the UKIP supporters on this site, with a few exceptions, seem to be spiteful, reactionary and unwilling to discuss, debate or exchange any reasonable comments.
Certainly, this forum could not be considered as an effective recruiting office for UKIP.
This may not be an effective recruiting office forUKIP but it gives UKIP supporters the chance to show how people who many support other partys have no idea of the truth. they belive what they read in the papers, mostly written by people who have something to gain from being in the E/U.
The E/U has almost finished this country off, like throwing money away every day.
Also just note when we come out of the E/U we get our 12 mile coast line back.
Good news for our fishermen.
[quote][p][bold]highbloodpressure[/bold] wrote: I hope my information is duff because i would not want any active party in the UK to show anything but contempt for a murdering terrorist such as Breivik. but it seems that UKIP is or was part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). They includes the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is or was co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation." It seems that Farage threatened to resign but has not yet done so. You can dismiss my other comments in any way you want. But as always, if you come across someone who disagrees with you, they are automatically branded in some petulant way. As I posted earlier, the UKIP supporters on this site, with a few exceptions, seem to be spiteful, reactionary and unwilling to discuss, debate or exchange any reasonable comments. Certainly, this forum could not be considered as an effective recruiting office for UKIP.[/p][/quote]This may not be an effective recruiting office forUKIP but it gives UKIP supporters the chance to show how people who many support other partys have no idea of the truth. they belive what they read in the papers, mostly written by people who have something to gain from being in the E/U. The E/U has almost finished this country off, like throwing money away every day. Also just note when we come out of the E/U we get our 12 mile coast line back. Good news for our fishermen. cosmick
  • Score: 64

11:06pm Tue 11 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

cosmick wrote:
highbloodpressure wrote:
I hope my information is duff because i would not want any active party in the UK to show anything but contempt for a murdering terrorist such as Breivik. but it seems that UKIP is or was part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). They includes the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is or was co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation." It seems that Farage threatened to resign but has not yet done so.
You can dismiss my other comments in any way you want. But as always, if you come across someone who disagrees with you, they are automatically branded in some petulant way. As I posted earlier, the UKIP supporters on this site, with a few exceptions, seem to be spiteful, reactionary and unwilling to discuss, debate or exchange any reasonable comments.
Certainly, this forum could not be considered as an effective recruiting office for UKIP.
This may not be an effective recruiting office forUKIP but it gives UKIP supporters the chance to show how people who many support other partys have no idea of the truth. they belive what they read in the papers, mostly written by people who have something to gain from being in the E/U.
The E/U has almost finished this country off, like throwing money away every day.
Also just note when we come out of the E/U we get our 12 mile coast line back.
Good news for our fishermen.
Sand and head comes to mind.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]highbloodpressure[/bold] wrote: I hope my information is duff because i would not want any active party in the UK to show anything but contempt for a murdering terrorist such as Breivik. but it seems that UKIP is or was part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). They includes the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is or was co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation." It seems that Farage threatened to resign but has not yet done so. You can dismiss my other comments in any way you want. But as always, if you come across someone who disagrees with you, they are automatically branded in some petulant way. As I posted earlier, the UKIP supporters on this site, with a few exceptions, seem to be spiteful, reactionary and unwilling to discuss, debate or exchange any reasonable comments. Certainly, this forum could not be considered as an effective recruiting office for UKIP.[/p][/quote]This may not be an effective recruiting office forUKIP but it gives UKIP supporters the chance to show how people who many support other partys have no idea of the truth. they belive what they read in the papers, mostly written by people who have something to gain from being in the E/U. The E/U has almost finished this country off, like throwing money away every day. Also just note when we come out of the E/U we get our 12 mile coast line back. Good news for our fishermen.[/p][/quote]Sand and head comes to mind. woodsedge
  • Score: -3

11:57pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

When Pappa (pr: P'PAH, for the benefit of the dalits !!) was about 94, he was genuinely bewildered, saying: #Who are all these blacks who have suddenly appeared in Weymouth ? Where have they come from ? Why are they here ? What do they want here ? # I couldn't answer his question - in the early sixties, you could count the number of blacks (half-castes, actually) on ONE hand, with fingers to spare. Then, to the best of my knowledge, there was no friction, and they were apparently fully accepted. Inspired by Pappa's questions, I went to the Council Offices and passed the questions on to them, fearing that there was some kind of tory plot to force all this immigration down our throats, as they had done earlier when they shipped in the unemployed from unsavory places in the midland area. Being mere politicians (I call them ALL tories:Tory tories, Labor tories, Liberal tories, Independent tories because they are ALL ecologically-illiter
ate, and are ALL obsessed with short-term financial gain in the form of #creating jobs# and #stimulating economic growth#. None of them have read Edward Abbey: #Unlimited growth is the ideology of the cancer cell# !!) it is not expected of them that they will exhibit much in the way of meaningful intelligence, far-sightedness or wisdom, so throwing our desecrated country open to the tender, self-seeking mercies of all comers would be about their mark. Then we have all this nonsense about making schoolkids in the UK learn that utterly LUDICROUS cantonese, with its 25,000-odd characters, against the day when Britain is crushed beneath chinese jackboots, courtesy of one David CaMORON. Instead of sniffing around chinee backsides - as he did recently - I would feel FAR happier seeing him denounce his fellow tories (businessmen) who outsource work to asia as #Traitors to the West !! # THAT would just about include EVERY member of the Conspiracy of Bungling Incompetents !!
And as far as white, christian English people are concerned - actually, no !!
If I were looking for stock to improve the British line, my eyes would be turning towards Greece, Italy, Armenia, Iran, Pakistan and India - just so long as all the ideological baggage was lost in transit !!
When Pappa (pr: P'PAH, for the benefit of the dalits !!) was about 94, he was genuinely bewildered, saying: #Who are all these blacks who have suddenly appeared in Weymouth ? Where have they come from ? Why are they here ? What do they want here ? # I couldn't answer his question - in the early sixties, you could count the number of blacks (half-castes, actually) on ONE hand, with fingers to spare. Then, to the best of my knowledge, there was no friction, and they were apparently fully accepted. Inspired by Pappa's questions, I went to the Council Offices and passed the questions on to them, fearing that there was some kind of tory plot to force all this immigration down our throats, as they had done earlier when they shipped in the unemployed from unsavory places in the midland area. Being mere politicians (I call them ALL tories:Tory tories, Labor tories, Liberal tories, Independent tories because they are ALL ecologically-illiter ate, and are ALL obsessed with short-term financial gain in the form of #creating jobs# and #stimulating economic growth#. None of them have read Edward Abbey: #Unlimited growth is the ideology of the cancer cell# !!) it is not expected of them that they will exhibit much in the way of meaningful intelligence, far-sightedness or wisdom, so throwing our desecrated country open to the tender, self-seeking mercies of all comers would be about their mark. Then we have all this nonsense about making schoolkids in the UK learn that utterly LUDICROUS cantonese, with its 25,000-odd characters, against the day when Britain is crushed beneath chinese jackboots, courtesy of one David CaMORON. Instead of sniffing around chinee backsides - as he did recently - I would feel FAR happier seeing him denounce his fellow tories (businessmen) who outsource work to asia as #Traitors to the West !! # THAT would just about include EVERY member of the Conspiracy of Bungling Incompetents !! And as far as white, christian English people are concerned - actually, no !! If I were looking for stock to improve the British line, my eyes would be turning towards Greece, Italy, Armenia, Iran, Pakistan and India - just so long as all the ideological baggage was lost in transit !! Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 0

7:16am Wed 12 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
When Pappa (pr: P'PAH, for the benefit of the dalits !!) was about 94, he was genuinely bewildered, saying: #Who are all these blacks who have suddenly appeared in Weymouth ? Where have they come from ? Why are they here ? What do they want here ? # I couldn't answer his question - in the early sixties, you could count the number of blacks (half-castes, actually) on ONE hand, with fingers to spare. Then, to the best of my knowledge, there was no friction, and they were apparently fully accepted. Inspired by Pappa's questions, I went to the Council Offices and passed the questions on to them, fearing that there was some kind of tory plot to force all this immigration down our throats, as they had done earlier when they shipped in the unemployed from unsavory places in the midland area. Being mere politicians (I call them ALL tories:Tory tories, Labor tories, Liberal tories, Independent tories because they are ALL ecologically-illiter

ate, and are ALL obsessed with short-term financial gain in the form of #creating jobs# and #stimulating economic growth#. None of them have read Edward Abbey: #Unlimited growth is the ideology of the cancer cell# !!) it is not expected of them that they will exhibit much in the way of meaningful intelligence, far-sightedness or wisdom, so throwing our desecrated country open to the tender, self-seeking mercies of all comers would be about their mark. Then we have all this nonsense about making schoolkids in the UK learn that utterly LUDICROUS cantonese, with its 25,000-odd characters, against the day when Britain is crushed beneath chinese jackboots, courtesy of one David CaMORON. Instead of sniffing around chinee backsides - as he did recently - I would feel FAR happier seeing him denounce his fellow tories (businessmen) who outsource work to asia as #Traitors to the West !! # THAT would just about include EVERY member of the Conspiracy of Bungling Incompetents !!
And as far as white, christian English people are concerned - actually, no !!
If I were looking for stock to improve the British line, my eyes would be turning towards Greece, Italy, Armenia, Iran, Pakistan and India - just so long as all the ideological baggage was lost in transit !!
What time did you get back from the pub? Was it just before this was written.?
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: When Pappa (pr: P'PAH, for the benefit of the dalits !!) was about 94, he was genuinely bewildered, saying: #Who are all these blacks who have suddenly appeared in Weymouth ? Where have they come from ? Why are they here ? What do they want here ? # I couldn't answer his question - in the early sixties, you could count the number of blacks (half-castes, actually) on ONE hand, with fingers to spare. Then, to the best of my knowledge, there was no friction, and they were apparently fully accepted. Inspired by Pappa's questions, I went to the Council Offices and passed the questions on to them, fearing that there was some kind of tory plot to force all this immigration down our throats, as they had done earlier when they shipped in the unemployed from unsavory places in the midland area. Being mere politicians (I call them ALL tories:Tory tories, Labor tories, Liberal tories, Independent tories because they are ALL ecologically-illiter ate, and are ALL obsessed with short-term financial gain in the form of #creating jobs# and #stimulating economic growth#. None of them have read Edward Abbey: #Unlimited growth is the ideology of the cancer cell# !!) it is not expected of them that they will exhibit much in the way of meaningful intelligence, far-sightedness or wisdom, so throwing our desecrated country open to the tender, self-seeking mercies of all comers would be about their mark. Then we have all this nonsense about making schoolkids in the UK learn that utterly LUDICROUS cantonese, with its 25,000-odd characters, against the day when Britain is crushed beneath chinese jackboots, courtesy of one David CaMORON. Instead of sniffing around chinee backsides - as he did recently - I would feel FAR happier seeing him denounce his fellow tories (businessmen) who outsource work to asia as #Traitors to the West !! # THAT would just about include EVERY member of the Conspiracy of Bungling Incompetents !! And as far as white, christian English people are concerned - actually, no !! If I were looking for stock to improve the British line, my eyes would be turning towards Greece, Italy, Armenia, Iran, Pakistan and India - just so long as all the ideological baggage was lost in transit !![/p][/quote]What time did you get back from the pub? Was it just before this was written.? cosmick
  • Score: 9

8:49am Wed 12 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

cosmick wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
When Pappa (pr: P'PAH, for the benefit of the dalits !!) was about 94, he was genuinely bewildered, saying: #Who are all these blacks who have suddenly appeared in Weymouth ? Where have they come from ? Why are they here ? What do they want here ? # I couldn't answer his question - in the early sixties, you could count the number of blacks (half-castes, actually) on ONE hand, with fingers to spare. Then, to the best of my knowledge, there was no friction, and they were apparently fully accepted. Inspired by Pappa's questions, I went to the Council Offices and passed the questions on to them, fearing that there was some kind of tory plot to force all this immigration down our throats, as they had done earlier when they shipped in the unemployed from unsavory places in the midland area. Being mere politicians (I call them ALL tories:Tory tories, Labor tories, Liberal tories, Independent tories because they are ALL ecologically-illiter


ate, and are ALL obsessed with short-term financial gain in the form of #creating jobs# and #stimulating economic growth#. None of them have read Edward Abbey: #Unlimited growth is the ideology of the cancer cell# !!) it is not expected of them that they will exhibit much in the way of meaningful intelligence, far-sightedness or wisdom, so throwing our desecrated country open to the tender, self-seeking mercies of all comers would be about their mark. Then we have all this nonsense about making schoolkids in the UK learn that utterly LUDICROUS cantonese, with its 25,000-odd characters, against the day when Britain is crushed beneath chinese jackboots, courtesy of one David CaMORON. Instead of sniffing around chinee backsides - as he did recently - I would feel FAR happier seeing him denounce his fellow tories (businessmen) who outsource work to asia as #Traitors to the West !! # THAT would just about include EVERY member of the Conspiracy of Bungling Incompetents !!
And as far as white, christian English people are concerned - actually, no !!
If I were looking for stock to improve the British line, my eyes would be turning towards Greece, Italy, Armenia, Iran, Pakistan and India - just so long as all the ideological baggage was lost in transit !!
What time did you get back from the pub? Was it just before this was written.?
The worrying thing is that reading between the lines HO is a UKIP supporter!
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: When Pappa (pr: P'PAH, for the benefit of the dalits !!) was about 94, he was genuinely bewildered, saying: #Who are all these blacks who have suddenly appeared in Weymouth ? Where have they come from ? Why are they here ? What do they want here ? # I couldn't answer his question - in the early sixties, you could count the number of blacks (half-castes, actually) on ONE hand, with fingers to spare. Then, to the best of my knowledge, there was no friction, and they were apparently fully accepted. Inspired by Pappa's questions, I went to the Council Offices and passed the questions on to them, fearing that there was some kind of tory plot to force all this immigration down our throats, as they had done earlier when they shipped in the unemployed from unsavory places in the midland area. Being mere politicians (I call them ALL tories:Tory tories, Labor tories, Liberal tories, Independent tories because they are ALL ecologically-illiter ate, and are ALL obsessed with short-term financial gain in the form of #creating jobs# and #stimulating economic growth#. None of them have read Edward Abbey: #Unlimited growth is the ideology of the cancer cell# !!) it is not expected of them that they will exhibit much in the way of meaningful intelligence, far-sightedness or wisdom, so throwing our desecrated country open to the tender, self-seeking mercies of all comers would be about their mark. Then we have all this nonsense about making schoolkids in the UK learn that utterly LUDICROUS cantonese, with its 25,000-odd characters, against the day when Britain is crushed beneath chinese jackboots, courtesy of one David CaMORON. Instead of sniffing around chinee backsides - as he did recently - I would feel FAR happier seeing him denounce his fellow tories (businessmen) who outsource work to asia as #Traitors to the West !! # THAT would just about include EVERY member of the Conspiracy of Bungling Incompetents !! And as far as white, christian English people are concerned - actually, no !! If I were looking for stock to improve the British line, my eyes would be turning towards Greece, Italy, Armenia, Iran, Pakistan and India - just so long as all the ideological baggage was lost in transit !![/p][/quote]What time did you get back from the pub? Was it just before this was written.?[/p][/quote]The worrying thing is that reading between the lines HO is a UKIP supporter! woodsedge
  • Score: 0

12:09pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip.
You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity.
There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority.

So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?
West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.
Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs.
Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries.
Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different...
[quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.[/p][/quote]Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip. You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity. There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority. So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?[/p][/quote]West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs. Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries. Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -5

12:50pm Wed 12 Mar 14

vincym says...

inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip.
You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity.
There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority.

So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?
West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.
It is natural for any home owner and their family to wish to make the personal decision as to who comes in and out of their home. It is also natural on a National level for any citizen to have their own view on who comes to live in the country and how the country should be governed. This is democracy in action. We live in a democratic country. The point is the EU consists of 27 countries. The underlining principle of the EU is the free movement of people and goods which means in reality no border controls. Not only is there the free movement of People from Europe but there is also asylum seekers coming in. The citizens of the country have not been given a vote on this whole situation. The country is in recession with many problems of its own the floods being the latest problem. There are not enough houses, schools etc. This is not about racism but about plain common sense. Charity must begin at home. My daughter lives in London and has not been unable to find full time employment for over a year now. She picks up work from time to time which is her bread and butter so can pay her bills but not rent. As a result she has had to relay on the good grace of a school friend to let her stay rent free. She has not been able to even find pub work when there is no agency work. She also does voluntary work hoping against hope that a door will open up somewhere. This is the true reality for some. There are people in England of many different races and cultures now. I am from the West Indies myself and a member of UKIP. UKIP is not saying that people of other races already settled here should leave. What UKIP is saying is that 26 other countries should not be determining how England Governs itself and charity must begin at home as regards the citizens already living here. We need to face the true reality of the big picture instead of using emotive language calling others who do not share the same views racists. This does nothing to solve the problem as regards sovereignty and Mass immigration. We are all adults and what is being debated is important and should be taken seriously. The debate should be factual, tempered and objective. UKIP is not a racist party. I know because I am a member. UKIP does not advocate side lining the commonwealth. EU policies does so in terms of trade and immigration. Vincy
[quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.[/p][/quote]Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip. You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity. There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority. So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?[/p][/quote]West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]It is natural for any home owner and their family to wish to make the personal decision as to who comes in and out of their home. It is also natural on a National level for any citizen to have their own view on who comes to live in the country and how the country should be governed. This is democracy in action. We live in a democratic country. The point is the EU consists of 27 countries. The underlining principle of the EU is the free movement of people and goods which means in reality no border controls. Not only is there the free movement of People from Europe but there is also asylum seekers coming in. The citizens of the country have not been given a vote on this whole situation. The country is in recession with many problems of its own the floods being the latest problem. There are not enough houses, schools etc. This is not about racism but about plain common sense. Charity must begin at home. My daughter lives in London and has not been unable to find full time employment for over a year now. She picks up work from time to time which is her bread and butter so can pay her bills but not rent. As a result she has had to relay on the good grace of a school friend to let her stay rent free. She has not been able to even find pub work when there is no agency work. She also does voluntary work hoping against hope that a door will open up somewhere. This is the true reality for some. There are people in England of many different races and cultures now. I am from the West Indies myself and a member of UKIP. UKIP is not saying that people of other races already settled here should leave. What UKIP is saying is that 26 other countries should not be determining how England Governs itself and charity must begin at home as regards the citizens already living here. We need to face the true reality of the big picture instead of using emotive language calling others who do not share the same views racists. This does nothing to solve the problem as regards sovereignty and Mass immigration. We are all adults and what is being debated is important and should be taken seriously. The debate should be factual, tempered and objective. UKIP is not a racist party. I know because I am a member. UKIP does not advocate side lining the commonwealth. EU policies does so in terms of trade and immigration. Vincy vincym
  • Score: 60

12:52pm Wed 12 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip.
You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity.
There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority.

So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?
West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.
Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs.
Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries.
Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different...
So you think west indians are mentally deranged, on drugs, we all work crap jobs and then you throw in claiming benefit as well? You know absolutely nothing about us, our local community. You are offensive not only to me but to the whole ethnic community who you clearly look down on. I noted from all the comments yesterday that my positive support for UKIP - the only party who actively support people from the commonwealth in reestablishing our trade and giving us an equal opportunity to study, live and work here - was given kind and positive words by people also who support UKIP either similar or other reasons. The only people on here who have been rude and hateful would be YOU and other people who clearly do not support UKIP. You are entitled to your opinion but the way you think it is ok to treat me makes yourself look bad and shows you for what you really are. I spoke to my family about these comments yesterday and will be speaking to my friends and those in the community. This kind of hatefulness is not to be tolerated. Shame on you.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.[/p][/quote]Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip. You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity. There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority. So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?[/p][/quote]West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs. Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries. Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different...[/p][/quote]So you think west indians are mentally deranged, on drugs, we all work crap jobs and then you throw in claiming benefit as well? You know absolutely nothing about us, our local community. You are offensive not only to me but to the whole ethnic community who you clearly look down on. I noted from all the comments yesterday that my positive support for UKIP - the only party who actively support people from the commonwealth in reestablishing our trade and giving us an equal opportunity to study, live and work here - was given kind and positive words by people also who support UKIP either similar or other reasons. The only people on here who have been rude and hateful would be YOU and other people who clearly do not support UKIP. You are entitled to your opinion but the way you think it is ok to treat me makes yourself look bad and shows you for what you really are. I spoke to my family about these comments yesterday and will be speaking to my friends and those in the community. This kind of hatefulness is not to be tolerated. Shame on you. inquiringmind
  • Score: 60

1:43pm Wed 12 Mar 14

cosmick says...

vincym wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip.
You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity.
There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority.

So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?
West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.
It is natural for any home owner and their family to wish to make the personal decision as to who comes in and out of their home. It is also natural on a National level for any citizen to have their own view on who comes to live in the country and how the country should be governed. This is democracy in action. We live in a democratic country. The point is the EU consists of 27 countries. The underlining principle of the EU is the free movement of people and goods which means in reality no border controls. Not only is there the free movement of People from Europe but there is also asylum seekers coming in. The citizens of the country have not been given a vote on this whole situation. The country is in recession with many problems of its own the floods being the latest problem. There are not enough houses, schools etc. This is not about racism but about plain common sense. Charity must begin at home. My daughter lives in London and has not been unable to find full time employment for over a year now. She picks up work from time to time which is her bread and butter so can pay her bills but not rent. As a result she has had to relay on the good grace of a school friend to let her stay rent free. She has not been able to even find pub work when there is no agency work. She also does voluntary work hoping against hope that a door will open up somewhere. This is the true reality for some. There are people in England of many different races and cultures now. I am from the West Indies myself and a member of UKIP. UKIP is not saying that people of other races already settled here should leave. What UKIP is saying is that 26 other countries should not be determining how England Governs itself and charity must begin at home as regards the citizens already living here. We need to face the true reality of the big picture instead of using emotive language calling others who do not share the same views racists. This does nothing to solve the problem as regards sovereignty and Mass immigration. We are all adults and what is being debated is important and should be taken seriously. The debate should be factual, tempered and objective. UKIP is not a racist party. I know because I am a member. UKIP does not advocate side lining the commonwealth. EU policies does so in terms of trade and immigration. Vincy
Very well put , someone else on this site with common sence and able to put themselves over in a proper manor.
Well done
[quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.[/p][/quote]Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip. You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity. There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority. So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?[/p][/quote]West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]It is natural for any home owner and their family to wish to make the personal decision as to who comes in and out of their home. It is also natural on a National level for any citizen to have their own view on who comes to live in the country and how the country should be governed. This is democracy in action. We live in a democratic country. The point is the EU consists of 27 countries. The underlining principle of the EU is the free movement of people and goods which means in reality no border controls. Not only is there the free movement of People from Europe but there is also asylum seekers coming in. The citizens of the country have not been given a vote on this whole situation. The country is in recession with many problems of its own the floods being the latest problem. There are not enough houses, schools etc. This is not about racism but about plain common sense. Charity must begin at home. My daughter lives in London and has not been unable to find full time employment for over a year now. She picks up work from time to time which is her bread and butter so can pay her bills but not rent. As a result she has had to relay on the good grace of a school friend to let her stay rent free. She has not been able to even find pub work when there is no agency work. She also does voluntary work hoping against hope that a door will open up somewhere. This is the true reality for some. There are people in England of many different races and cultures now. I am from the West Indies myself and a member of UKIP. UKIP is not saying that people of other races already settled here should leave. What UKIP is saying is that 26 other countries should not be determining how England Governs itself and charity must begin at home as regards the citizens already living here. We need to face the true reality of the big picture instead of using emotive language calling others who do not share the same views racists. This does nothing to solve the problem as regards sovereignty and Mass immigration. We are all adults and what is being debated is important and should be taken seriously. The debate should be factual, tempered and objective. UKIP is not a racist party. I know because I am a member. UKIP does not advocate side lining the commonwealth. EU policies does so in terms of trade and immigration. Vincy[/p][/quote]Very well put , someone else on this site with common sence and able to put themselves over in a proper manor. Well done cosmick
  • Score: 55

2:51pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip.
You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity.
There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority.

So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?
West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.
Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs.
Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries.
Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different...
So you think west indians are mentally deranged, on drugs, we all work crap jobs and then you throw in claiming benefit as well? You know absolutely nothing about us, our local community. You are offensive not only to me but to the whole ethnic community who you clearly look down on. I noted from all the comments yesterday that my positive support for UKIP - the only party who actively support people from the commonwealth in reestablishing our trade and giving us an equal opportunity to study, live and work here - was given kind and positive words by people also who support UKIP either similar or other reasons. The only people on here who have been rude and hateful would be YOU and other people who clearly do not support UKIP. You are entitled to your opinion but the way you think it is ok to treat me makes yourself look bad and shows you for what you really are. I spoke to my family about these comments yesterday and will be speaking to my friends and those in the community. This kind of hatefulness is not to be tolerated. Shame on you.
You are about as West Indian as I am Dutch. Your username is a total giveaway.
You are a white at least middle-aged probably protestant man that lives possible remotely to Dorset and hates everyone below the age of about fifty.
You are also not very savvy about posting in forums or you would have spotted a very serious mistake you have made. The Police have access to all public domain websites like this one, and you are trying to generate racism via backhanded implication, which is still a serious crime - I would crawl back under the rock that you came from if I were you...
[quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.[/p][/quote]Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip. You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity. There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority. So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?[/p][/quote]West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs. Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries. Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different...[/p][/quote]So you think west indians are mentally deranged, on drugs, we all work crap jobs and then you throw in claiming benefit as well? You know absolutely nothing about us, our local community. You are offensive not only to me but to the whole ethnic community who you clearly look down on. I noted from all the comments yesterday that my positive support for UKIP - the only party who actively support people from the commonwealth in reestablishing our trade and giving us an equal opportunity to study, live and work here - was given kind and positive words by people also who support UKIP either similar or other reasons. The only people on here who have been rude and hateful would be YOU and other people who clearly do not support UKIP. You are entitled to your opinion but the way you think it is ok to treat me makes yourself look bad and shows you for what you really are. I spoke to my family about these comments yesterday and will be speaking to my friends and those in the community. This kind of hatefulness is not to be tolerated. Shame on you.[/p][/quote]You are about as West Indian as I am Dutch. Your username is a total giveaway. You are a white at least middle-aged probably protestant man that lives possible remotely to Dorset and hates everyone below the age of about fifty. You are also not very savvy about posting in forums or you would have spotted a very serious mistake you have made. The Police have access to all public domain websites like this one, and you are trying to generate racism via backhanded implication, which is still a serious crime - I would crawl back under the rock that you came from if I were you... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -19

4:50pm Wed 12 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip.
You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity.
There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority.

So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?
West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.
Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs.
Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries.
Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different...
So you think west indians are mentally deranged, on drugs, we all work crap jobs and then you throw in claiming benefit as well? You know absolutely nothing about us, our local community. You are offensive not only to me but to the whole ethnic community who you clearly look down on. I noted from all the comments yesterday that my positive support for UKIP - the only party who actively support people from the commonwealth in reestablishing our trade and giving us an equal opportunity to study, live and work here - was given kind and positive words by people also who support UKIP either similar or other reasons. The only people on here who have been rude and hateful would be YOU and other people who clearly do not support UKIP. You are entitled to your opinion but the way you think it is ok to treat me makes yourself look bad and shows you for what you really are. I spoke to my family about these comments yesterday and will be speaking to my friends and those in the community. This kind of hatefulness is not to be tolerated. Shame on you.
You are about as West Indian as I am Dutch. Your username is a total giveaway.
You are a white at least middle-aged probably protestant man that lives possible remotely to Dorset and hates everyone below the age of about fifty.
You are also not very savvy about posting in forums or you would have spotted a very serious mistake you have made. The Police have access to all public domain websites like this one, and you are trying to generate racism via backhanded implication, which is still a serious crime - I would crawl back under the rock that you came from if I were you...
and your bad behaviour continues!.. look at the post by Vincy and learn something about a group of people that you clearly know nothing about. We will not be bullied by you. Know that.

"There are people in England of many different races and cultures now. I am from the West Indies myself and a member of UKIP. UKIP is not saying that people of other races already settled here should leave. What UKIP is saying is that 26 other countries should not be determining how England Governs itself and charity must begin at home as regards the citizens already living here. We need to face the true reality of the big picture instead of using emotive language calling others who do not share the same views racists. This does nothing to solve the problem as regards sovereignty and Mass immigration. We are all adults and what is being debated is important and should be taken seriously. The debate should be factual, tempered and objective. UKIP is not a racist party. I know because I am a member. UKIP does not advocate side lining the commonwealth. EU policies does so in terms of trade and immigration. Vincy"
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.[/p][/quote]Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip. You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity. There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority. So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?[/p][/quote]West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs. Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries. Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different...[/p][/quote]So you think west indians are mentally deranged, on drugs, we all work crap jobs and then you throw in claiming benefit as well? You know absolutely nothing about us, our local community. You are offensive not only to me but to the whole ethnic community who you clearly look down on. I noted from all the comments yesterday that my positive support for UKIP - the only party who actively support people from the commonwealth in reestablishing our trade and giving us an equal opportunity to study, live and work here - was given kind and positive words by people also who support UKIP either similar or other reasons. The only people on here who have been rude and hateful would be YOU and other people who clearly do not support UKIP. You are entitled to your opinion but the way you think it is ok to treat me makes yourself look bad and shows you for what you really are. I spoke to my family about these comments yesterday and will be speaking to my friends and those in the community. This kind of hatefulness is not to be tolerated. Shame on you.[/p][/quote]You are about as West Indian as I am Dutch. Your username is a total giveaway. You are a white at least middle-aged probably protestant man that lives possible remotely to Dorset and hates everyone below the age of about fifty. You are also not very savvy about posting in forums or you would have spotted a very serious mistake you have made. The Police have access to all public domain websites like this one, and you are trying to generate racism via backhanded implication, which is still a serious crime - I would crawl back under the rock that you came from if I were you...[/p][/quote]and your bad behaviour continues!.. look at the post by Vincy and learn something about a group of people that you clearly know nothing about. We will not be bullied by you. Know that. "There are people in England of many different races and cultures now. I am from the West Indies myself and a member of UKIP. UKIP is not saying that people of other races already settled here should leave. What UKIP is saying is that 26 other countries should not be determining how England Governs itself and charity must begin at home as regards the citizens already living here. We need to face the true reality of the big picture instead of using emotive language calling others who do not share the same views racists. This does nothing to solve the problem as regards sovereignty and Mass immigration. We are all adults and what is being debated is important and should be taken seriously. The debate should be factual, tempered and objective. UKIP is not a racist party. I know because I am a member. UKIP does not advocate side lining the commonwealth. EU policies does so in terms of trade and immigration. Vincy" inquiringmind
  • Score: 52

6:19pm Wed 12 Mar 14

highbloodpressure says...

We haven't heard from that David D fella who says he supports UKIP and also seems to hate women. Maybe he is our "west Indian " UKIP supporter. His ranting is another reason not to vote UKIP. It appears to attract oddballs. Not that the other parties are havens for the wise and civilised. For the first time ever I may eat my ballot paper come the election.
We haven't heard from that David D fella who says he supports UKIP and also seems to hate women. Maybe he is our "west Indian " UKIP supporter. His ranting is another reason not to vote UKIP. It appears to attract oddballs. Not that the other parties are havens for the wise and civilised. For the first time ever I may eat my ballot paper come the election. highbloodpressure
  • Score: -7

6:37pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

The fact that you are desperate enough to try and pass yourself off as black just proves how sad and pathetic ukip are.
Your party will never gain any meaningful political ground because your policies are based on hate and racism.
The fact that you are desperate enough to try and pass yourself off as black just proves how sad and pathetic ukip are. Your party will never gain any meaningful political ground because your policies are based on hate and racism. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -14

6:51pm Wed 12 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
The fact that you are desperate enough to try and pass yourself off as black just proves how sad and pathetic ukip are.
Your party will never gain any meaningful political ground because your policies are based on hate and racism.
For all you who put remarks about UKIP being a racist party.
Google UKIP ESSEX and quite simply you will see evidence that UKIP IS NOT RACIST.
Still when you are told the truth you will not belive it because YOU CHOOSE NOT TO.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: The fact that you are desperate enough to try and pass yourself off as black just proves how sad and pathetic ukip are. Your party will never gain any meaningful political ground because your policies are based on hate and racism.[/p][/quote]For all you who put remarks about UKIP being a racist party. Google UKIP ESSEX and quite simply you will see evidence that UKIP IS NOT RACIST. Still when you are told the truth you will not belive it because YOU CHOOSE NOT TO. cosmick
  • Score: 49

7:53pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

PUTTING WORDS IN CAPITALS DOESNT MAKE IT TRUE.
PUTTING WORDS IN CAPITALS DOESNT MAKE IT TRUE. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 0

7:59pm Wed 12 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

How about these UKIP oddballs that some want to see running the country:

Godfrey Bloom MEP left UKIP after he described a group of female party members as ‘****’ and hit Channel 4 News presenter Michael Crick over the head with a copy of the conference brochure. Before these incidents, Bloom was already in the public spotlight for claiming that the UK should not be sending aid to ‘bongo bongo land’. More recently, he shocked those present at an Oxford Union debate in January by asking a disabled student if he was ‘Richard III’.

Geoffrey Clarke, a candidate in council elections in Kent, was suspended by the party in December 2012 after calling for an NHS review to look into whether foetuses with Down’s syndrome and spina bifida should be compulsorily aborted.

Alex Wood, a candidate in local council elections in Somerset, was suspended by the party in April last year after a photo of him making a Nazi-style salute appeared on Facebook.

Eric Kitson, a UKIP councillor on Worcestershire County Council, resigned in May last year after it was discovered that he had been posting racist and anti-Muslim cartoons on Facebook.

Chris Pain, a county councillor in Lincolnshire, was removed as leader of the UKIP group in September (and was then removed from the party altogether) after being investigated by the police for allegedly posting racist comments on Facebook.

Winston McKenzie, a by-election candidate in Croydon North in November 2012, claimed that allowing same-sex couples to adopt children was ‘unhealthy‘.

Philip Rose, a candidate who said that ‘gay folk’ were ‘being used by forces of evil’ to stop UKIP’s progress.

Henry Reilly, a councillor in Northern Ireland, claimed that a ‘militant gay lobby’ was trying to impose itself on Christian churches. He also pledged to ‘support Assad’ in a tweet about the situation in Syria in September.

John Sullivan, a council candidate in Gloucestershire, said that regular physical exercise in schools can ‘prevent homosexuality‘.

Anna-Marie Crampton, a candidate in council elections in East Sussex, was suspended by the party after making anti-Semitic comments in April last year, in which she claimed that the Jews deliberately organised the Second World War and sacrificed their own people in the Holocaust.

There are also the claims which have been made about the party’s leader Nigel Farage. As the party’s conference started in September last year, an alleged incident was brought to light from 1981 (when Farage was a member of the cadet force at his school, Dulwich College) in which he and others are supposed to have marched around a Sussex village singing Hitler Youth songs. Channel 4 News also uncovered a letter from around this time, in which a teacher at Dulwich College claimed that Farage held “publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views” and expressed concern that he had been made a prefect.

Considering the phenomenon of the ‘rogue’ UKIP member is seemingly never ending, perhaps the cranks and oddballs are less the exception, but rather the rule.
How about these UKIP oddballs that some want to see running the country: Godfrey Bloom MEP left UKIP after he described a group of female party members as ‘****’ and hit Channel 4 News presenter Michael Crick over the head with a copy of the conference brochure. Before these incidents, Bloom was already in the public spotlight for claiming that the UK should not be sending aid to ‘bongo bongo land’. More recently, he shocked those present at an Oxford Union debate in January by asking a disabled student if he was ‘Richard III’. Geoffrey Clarke, a candidate in council elections in Kent, was suspended by the party in December 2012 after calling for an NHS review to look into whether foetuses with Down’s syndrome and spina bifida should be compulsorily aborted. Alex Wood, a candidate in local council elections in Somerset, was suspended by the party in April last year after a photo of him making a Nazi-style salute appeared on Facebook. Eric Kitson, a UKIP councillor on Worcestershire County Council, resigned in May last year after it was discovered that he had been posting racist and anti-Muslim cartoons on Facebook. Chris Pain, a county councillor in Lincolnshire, was removed as leader of the UKIP group in September (and was then removed from the party altogether) after being investigated by the police for allegedly posting racist comments on Facebook. Winston McKenzie, a by-election candidate in Croydon North in November 2012, claimed that allowing same-sex couples to adopt children was ‘unhealthy‘. Philip Rose, a candidate who said that ‘gay folk’ were ‘being used by forces of evil’ to stop UKIP’s progress. Henry Reilly, a councillor in Northern Ireland, claimed that a ‘militant gay lobby’ was trying to impose itself on Christian churches. He also pledged to ‘support Assad’ in a tweet about the situation in Syria in September. John Sullivan, a council candidate in Gloucestershire, said that regular physical exercise in schools can ‘prevent homosexuality‘. Anna-Marie Crampton, a candidate in council elections in East Sussex, was suspended by the party after making anti-Semitic comments in April last year, in which she claimed that the Jews deliberately organised the Second World War and sacrificed their own people in the Holocaust. There are also the claims which have been made about the party’s leader Nigel Farage. As the party’s conference started in September last year, an alleged incident was brought to light from 1981 (when Farage was a member of the cadet force at his school, Dulwich College) in which he and others are supposed to have marched around a Sussex village singing Hitler Youth songs. Channel 4 News also uncovered a letter from around this time, in which a teacher at Dulwich College claimed that Farage held “publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views” and expressed concern that he had been made a prefect. Considering the phenomenon of the ‘rogue’ UKIP member is seemingly never ending, perhaps the cranks and oddballs are less the exception, but rather the rule. woodsedge
  • Score: -1

1:18am Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

woodsedge wrote:
How about these UKIP oddballs that some want to see running the country:

Godfrey Bloom MEP left UKIP after he described a group of female party members as ‘****’ and hit Channel 4 News presenter Michael Crick over the head with a copy of the conference brochure. Before these incidents, Bloom was already in the public spotlight for claiming that the UK should not be sending aid to ‘bongo bongo land’. More recently, he shocked those present at an Oxford Union debate in January by asking a disabled student if he was ‘Richard III’.

Geoffrey Clarke, a candidate in council elections in Kent, was suspended by the party in December 2012 after calling for an NHS review to look into whether foetuses with Down’s syndrome and spina bifida should be compulsorily aborted.

Alex Wood, a candidate in local council elections in Somerset, was suspended by the party in April last year after a photo of him making a Nazi-style salute appeared on Facebook.

Eric Kitson, a UKIP councillor on Worcestershire County Council, resigned in May last year after it was discovered that he had been posting racist and anti-Muslim cartoons on Facebook.

Chris Pain, a county councillor in Lincolnshire, was removed as leader of the UKIP group in September (and was then removed from the party altogether) after being investigated by the police for allegedly posting racist comments on Facebook.

Winston McKenzie, a by-election candidate in Croydon North in November 2012, claimed that allowing same-sex couples to adopt children was ‘unhealthy‘.

Philip Rose, a candidate who said that ‘gay folk’ were ‘being used by forces of evil’ to stop UKIP’s progress.

Henry Reilly, a councillor in Northern Ireland, claimed that a ‘militant gay lobby’ was trying to impose itself on Christian churches. He also pledged to ‘support Assad’ in a tweet about the situation in Syria in September.

John Sullivan, a council candidate in Gloucestershire, said that regular physical exercise in schools can ‘prevent homosexuality‘.

Anna-Marie Crampton, a candidate in council elections in East Sussex, was suspended by the party after making anti-Semitic comments in April last year, in which she claimed that the Jews deliberately organised the Second World War and sacrificed their own people in the Holocaust.

There are also the claims which have been made about the party’s leader Nigel Farage. As the party’s conference started in September last year, an alleged incident was brought to light from 1981 (when Farage was a member of the cadet force at his school, Dulwich College) in which he and others are supposed to have marched around a Sussex village singing Hitler Youth songs. Channel 4 News also uncovered a letter from around this time, in which a teacher at Dulwich College claimed that Farage held “publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views” and expressed concern that he had been made a prefect.

Considering the phenomenon of the ‘rogue’ UKIP member is seemingly never ending, perhaps the cranks and oddballs are less the exception, but rather the rule.
Mark, read, listen and learn. Perception and reality is not the same thing. Therefore the perception we may have of any given situation, of someone, or a people is not the true reality. West Indians are a rainbow of peoples who come from different back grounds, have different aspirations do different kinds of jobs etc just like the peoples of any other country. You statement regarding the type of work West Indians do in this country does not ring through. Those who know anything about the West Indians in the country you will know this. I am West Indian and have lived in this country since 1969 I do know. We are also a free thinking people. You accuse UKIP of being racist party and on the other hand you make derogatory remarks concerning the lives of west Indians here even suggesting that they don't know much about current affairs and can be easily fooled - that is if they don't think the way you do. Your remarks are really inappropriate on every level and only serves to divide. EU policies are all invasive and impacts on all areas of our daily lives. We all need to work together for the common good of the country. Being rude about UKIP and to the other West Indian writing on this page is not helpful or constructive in any way.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: How about these UKIP oddballs that some want to see running the country: Godfrey Bloom MEP left UKIP after he described a group of female party members as ‘****’ and hit Channel 4 News presenter Michael Crick over the head with a copy of the conference brochure. Before these incidents, Bloom was already in the public spotlight for claiming that the UK should not be sending aid to ‘bongo bongo land’. More recently, he shocked those present at an Oxford Union debate in January by asking a disabled student if he was ‘Richard III’. Geoffrey Clarke, a candidate in council elections in Kent, was suspended by the party in December 2012 after calling for an NHS review to look into whether foetuses with Down’s syndrome and spina bifida should be compulsorily aborted. Alex Wood, a candidate in local council elections in Somerset, was suspended by the party in April last year after a photo of him making a Nazi-style salute appeared on Facebook. Eric Kitson, a UKIP councillor on Worcestershire County Council, resigned in May last year after it was discovered that he had been posting racist and anti-Muslim cartoons on Facebook. Chris Pain, a county councillor in Lincolnshire, was removed as leader of the UKIP group in September (and was then removed from the party altogether) after being investigated by the police for allegedly posting racist comments on Facebook. Winston McKenzie, a by-election candidate in Croydon North in November 2012, claimed that allowing same-sex couples to adopt children was ‘unhealthy‘. Philip Rose, a candidate who said that ‘gay folk’ were ‘being used by forces of evil’ to stop UKIP’s progress. Henry Reilly, a councillor in Northern Ireland, claimed that a ‘militant gay lobby’ was trying to impose itself on Christian churches. He also pledged to ‘support Assad’ in a tweet about the situation in Syria in September. John Sullivan, a council candidate in Gloucestershire, said that regular physical exercise in schools can ‘prevent homosexuality‘. Anna-Marie Crampton, a candidate in council elections in East Sussex, was suspended by the party after making anti-Semitic comments in April last year, in which she claimed that the Jews deliberately organised the Second World War and sacrificed their own people in the Holocaust. There are also the claims which have been made about the party’s leader Nigel Farage. As the party’s conference started in September last year, an alleged incident was brought to light from 1981 (when Farage was a member of the cadet force at his school, Dulwich College) in which he and others are supposed to have marched around a Sussex village singing Hitler Youth songs. Channel 4 News also uncovered a letter from around this time, in which a teacher at Dulwich College claimed that Farage held “publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views” and expressed concern that he had been made a prefect. Considering the phenomenon of the ‘rogue’ UKIP member is seemingly never ending, perhaps the cranks and oddballs are less the exception, but rather the rule.[/p][/quote]Mark, read, listen and learn. Perception and reality is not the same thing. Therefore the perception we may have of any given situation, of someone, or a people is not the true reality. West Indians are a rainbow of peoples who come from different back grounds, have different aspirations do different kinds of jobs etc just like the peoples of any other country. You statement regarding the type of work West Indians do in this country does not ring through. Those who know anything about the West Indians in the country you will know this. I am West Indian and have lived in this country since 1969 I do know. We are also a free thinking people. You accuse UKIP of being racist party and on the other hand you make derogatory remarks concerning the lives of west Indians here even suggesting that they don't know much about current affairs and can be easily fooled - that is if they don't think the way you do. Your remarks are really inappropriate on every level and only serves to divide. EU policies are all invasive and impacts on all areas of our daily lives. We all need to work together for the common good of the country. Being rude about UKIP and to the other West Indian writing on this page is not helpful or constructive in any way. vincym
  • Score: 47

7:46am Thu 13 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Its good to see the different sides of this debate, and we has seen some good points made.
Could someone tell me how we get the young people involved in running the country ?
I spoke to a young lady in the bank at Dorchester and she did not know that UKIP was a political party. I gess she was about 27 years old.
Its good to see the different sides of this debate, and we has seen some good points made. Could someone tell me how we get the young people involved in running the country ? I spoke to a young lady in the bank at Dorchester and she did not know that UKIP was a political party. I gess she was about 27 years old. cosmick
  • Score: 2

7:49am Thu 13 Mar 14

killerkelly1980 says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...
Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?
Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp. Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life.
POT. KETTLE. BLACK.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...[/p][/quote]Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?[/p][/quote]Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp. Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life.[/p][/quote]POT. KETTLE. BLACK. killerkelly1980
  • Score: 5

8:36am Thu 13 Mar 14

ronfogg says...

"Demographically, UKIP voters attract men slightly more than women – and the party draws its support disproportionately from older people with fewer qualifications. Whereas 46% of all voters are over 50, and 38% under 40, the figures for UKIP are 71% and 15% respectively. And just 13% of UKIP supporters have university degrees – half the national average (though this partly reflects the age profile: older people generally were less likely to attend university when they were young)."
"Demographically, UKIP voters attract men slightly more than women – and the party draws its support disproportionately from older people with fewer qualifications. Whereas 46% of all voters are over 50, and 38% under 40, the figures for UKIP are 71% and 15% respectively. And just 13% of UKIP supporters have university degrees – half the national average (though this partly reflects the age profile: older people generally were less likely to attend university when they were young)." ronfogg
  • Score: 0

9:16am Thu 13 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

killerkelly1980 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...
Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?
Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp. Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life.
POT. KETTLE. BLACK.
SUPPORTING. RACIST. POLITICS.
[quote][p][bold]killerkelly1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...[/p][/quote]Left wing lunatic! Any more ranting to add?[/p][/quote]Ohh - get back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp. Your the Troll thats been annoying everyone. I think you are a sad little man that has nothing better to do than try and generate some ill feeling because you are incapable of interacting with normal people in real life.[/p][/quote]POT. KETTLE. BLACK.[/p][/quote]SUPPORTING. RACIST. POLITICS. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 0

9:19am Thu 13 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

cosmick wrote:
Its good to see the different sides of this debate, and we has seen some good points made.
Could someone tell me how we get the young people involved in running the country ?
I spoke to a young lady in the bank at Dorchester and she did not know that UKIP was a political party. I gess she was about 27 years old.
Debate? I see no debate?
ukip has no policies other than getting rid of those they don't like. Are you really suprised nobody takes you seriously? hate isn't a basis for running a government...
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Its good to see the different sides of this debate, and we has seen some good points made. Could someone tell me how we get the young people involved in running the country ? I spoke to a young lady in the bank at Dorchester and she did not know that UKIP was a political party. I gess she was about 27 years old.[/p][/quote]Debate? I see no debate? ukip has no policies other than getting rid of those they don't like. Are you really suprised nobody takes you seriously? hate isn't a basis for running a government... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -2

10:48am Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

The country is losing a bit of its sovereignty on a daily basis through all the directives coming from Brussles. Which house holder will knowingly and willingly allow his authority to dribble away to some outside influence without making some concerted attempt to regain control? Which caring citizen willingly turns a blind eye to the outside influence of 26 other countries taking over how the country is to be run? We are all born with free will which enables us to be masters of our own fate not its slave. Having a spot of fun trying to discredit UKIP members who care enough about the country to try and halt the decline goes no way in stopping the decline. There is a truism- you never miss the water till the well runs dry. Regrets are about bad choices in life. I urge you to do some serious research about the true facts concerning the daily loss of this country's sovereignty. Regrets are about history's bad choices which cannot be changed. Come to the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea and a chat and take away some information. There is plenty available. We all love this country let us talk through our differences and try and work together for the common good of all.
The country is losing a bit of its sovereignty on a daily basis through all the directives coming from Brussles. Which house holder will knowingly and willingly allow his authority to dribble away to some outside influence without making some concerted attempt to regain control? Which caring citizen willingly turns a blind eye to the outside influence of 26 other countries taking over how the country is to be run? We are all born with free will which enables us to be masters of our own fate not its slave. Having a spot of fun trying to discredit UKIP members who care enough about the country to try and halt the decline goes no way in stopping the decline. There is a truism- you never miss the water till the well runs dry. Regrets are about bad choices in life. I urge you to do some serious research about the true facts concerning the daily loss of this country's sovereignty. Regrets are about history's bad choices which cannot be changed. Come to the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea and a chat and take away some information. There is plenty available. We all love this country let us talk through our differences and try and work together for the common good of all. vincym
  • Score: 38

11:13am Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

ronfogg wrote:
"Demographicall
y, UKIP voters attract men slightly more than women – and the party draws its support disproportionately from older people with fewer qualifications. Whereas 46% of all voters are over 50, and 38% under 40, the figures for UKIP are 71% and 15% respectively. And just 13% of UKIP supporters have university degrees – half the national average (though this partly reflects the age profile: older people generally were less likely to attend university when they were young)."
Drop into the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea, a chat and some information. We would love to see you. We are lovely people and believe it or not do not bite!!
[quote][p][bold]ronfogg[/bold] wrote: "Demographicall y, UKIP voters attract men slightly more than women – and the party draws its support disproportionately from older people with fewer qualifications. Whereas 46% of all voters are over 50, and 38% under 40, the figures for UKIP are 71% and 15% respectively. And just 13% of UKIP supporters have university degrees – half the national average (though this partly reflects the age profile: older people generally were less likely to attend university when they were young)."[/p][/quote]Drop into the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea, a chat and some information. We would love to see you. We are lovely people and believe it or not do not bite!! vincym
  • Score: 33

11:13am Thu 13 Mar 14

Dorset stuff says...

Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No. Dorset stuff
  • Score: 0

11:22am Thu 13 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
This is the right attitude from vincy:

The country is losing a bit of its sovereignty on a daily basis through all the directives coming from Brussles. Which house holder will knowingly and willingly allow his authority to dribble away to some outside influence without making some concerted attempt to regain control? Which caring citizen willingly turns a blind eye to the outside influence of 26 other countries taking over how the country is to be run? We are all born with free will which enables us to be masters of our own fate not its slave. Having a spot of fun trying to discredit UKIP members who care enough about the country to try and halt the decline goes no way in stopping the decline. There is a truism- you never miss the water till the well runs dry. Regrets are about bad choices in life. I urge you to do some serious research about the true facts concerning the daily loss of this country's sovereignty. Regrets are about history's bad choices which cannot be changed. Come to the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea and a chat and take away some information. There is plenty available. We all love this country let us talk through our differences and try and work together for the common good of all.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]This is the right attitude from vincy: The country is losing a bit of its sovereignty on a daily basis through all the directives coming from Brussles. Which house holder will knowingly and willingly allow his authority to dribble away to some outside influence without making some concerted attempt to regain control? Which caring citizen willingly turns a blind eye to the outside influence of 26 other countries taking over how the country is to be run? We are all born with free will which enables us to be masters of our own fate not its slave. Having a spot of fun trying to discredit UKIP members who care enough about the country to try and halt the decline goes no way in stopping the decline. There is a truism- you never miss the water till the well runs dry. Regrets are about bad choices in life. I urge you to do some serious research about the true facts concerning the daily loss of this country's sovereignty. Regrets are about history's bad choices which cannot be changed. Come to the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea and a chat and take away some information. There is plenty available. We all love this country let us talk through our differences and try and work together for the common good of all. inquiringmind
  • Score: 32

11:34am Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

woodsedge wrote:
DavidJG wrote:
Here we go again. I will counter this last point by saying that if you do know the FACTS about the benefits to be had by pulling out of the EU, you have every right to vote UKIP. The argument must be against those who refuse to take on board that there is absolutely no evidence behind most of the scaremongering stories used by the LibDems to put people off voting to leave the EU. When all is done and dusted, it is the electorate who will ultimately make the decision to stay in or leave. I would urge every one who has registered to vote to use that vote. Even if the decision goes for "more of the same" I hope that it will be by a substantial majority of an exceptionally large turnout. To the detractors of UKIP I say that such a vote is the only way they will defeat the increasing number of people who are indicating that they will vote for UKIP.
If you believe that the "electorate" will ever get a vote on coming out of Europe you are sadly mistaken. UKIP's protect vote at the general election will not be enough to get them elected, and the Tories will never put it to the vote. Labour have no intention of turning their back on Europe so the electorate are pretty much stuffed!
The English are very good at coming out fighting when their backs are against the wall so to speak. One person can not do it on their own, neither can two but together that is- with many like minded people with determination, grit and staying power it can be done. Don't despair people power can halt and reverse the decline. Come down to the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea and a chat and help the numbers to grow. Bring other like minded people as well. The time has come again for us all to think through this famous saying and act on it if we wish this to remain a sovereign country. Don't ask what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country? Come down and join us.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DavidJG[/bold] wrote: Here we go again. I will counter this last point by saying that if you do know the FACTS about the benefits to be had by pulling out of the EU, you have every right to vote UKIP. The argument must be against those who refuse to take on board that there is absolutely no evidence behind most of the scaremongering stories used by the LibDems to put people off voting to leave the EU. When all is done and dusted, it is the electorate who will ultimately make the decision to stay in or leave. I would urge every one who has registered to vote to use that vote. Even if the decision goes for "more of the same" I hope that it will be by a substantial majority of an exceptionally large turnout. To the detractors of UKIP I say that such a vote is the only way they will defeat the increasing number of people who are indicating that they will vote for UKIP.[/p][/quote]If you believe that the "electorate" will ever get a vote on coming out of Europe you are sadly mistaken. UKIP's protect vote at the general election will not be enough to get them elected, and the Tories will never put it to the vote. Labour have no intention of turning their back on Europe so the electorate are pretty much stuffed![/p][/quote]The English are very good at coming out fighting when their backs are against the wall so to speak. One person can not do it on their own, neither can two but together that is- with many like minded people with determination, grit and staying power it can be done. Don't despair people power can halt and reverse the decline. Come down to the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea and a chat and help the numbers to grow. Bring other like minded people as well. The time has come again for us all to think through this famous saying and act on it if we wish this to remain a sovereign country. Don't ask what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country? Come down and join us. vincym
  • Score: 31

1:15pm Thu 13 Mar 14

cosmick says...

The Latest number given out on BBC2 at 12 noon UKIPS party members up. Not just talking about it they are standing up to be counted.
Even when we get someone on this site talking sence we still have a few truoble makers.
I dont think N/F did have an affair, but thats not as bad as present TORY, cases in court , LIB DEMS cases still going on , in the LORDS, and the LABOUR have had there fair share.
Slagging off people will not win an argument!
The Latest number given out on BBC2 at 12 noon UKIPS party members up. Not just talking about it they are standing up to be counted. Even when we get someone on this site talking sence we still have a few truoble makers. I dont think N/F did have an affair, but thats not as bad as present TORY, cases in court , LIB DEMS cases still going on , in the LORDS, and the LABOUR have had there fair share. Slagging off people will not win an argument! cosmick
  • Score: 16

1:20pm Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course. vincym
  • Score: 27

2:01pm Thu 13 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
cosmick wrote:
Its good to see the different sides of this debate, and we has seen some good points made.
Could someone tell me how we get the young people involved in running the country ?
I spoke to a young lady in the bank at Dorchester and she did not know that UKIP was a political party. I gess she was about 27 years old.
Debate? I see no debate?
ukip has no policies other than getting rid of those they don't like. Are you really suprised nobody takes you seriously? hate isn't a basis for running a government...
Talk about making broad sweeping predujuiced assumptions. Have you actually bothered reading their manifest yet? As the saying goes 'empty vessels make the most noise'
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Its good to see the different sides of this debate, and we has seen some good points made. Could someone tell me how we get the young people involved in running the country ? I spoke to a young lady in the bank at Dorchester and she did not know that UKIP was a political party. I gess she was about 27 years old.[/p][/quote]Debate? I see no debate? ukip has no policies other than getting rid of those they don't like. Are you really suprised nobody takes you seriously? hate isn't a basis for running a government...[/p][/quote]Talk about making broad sweeping predujuiced assumptions. Have you actually bothered reading their manifest yet? As the saying goes 'empty vessels make the most noise' cj07589
  • Score: 6

2:06pm Thu 13 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

vincym wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course.
Sadly Dorset stuff fails to recognise main stream media's blatant attempts to smear UKIP at any opportunity. For the record the false allegations have been denied by Farage but the lack of facts don't seem to bother the likes of park silly shuffle and Dorset stuff.
[quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course.[/p][/quote]Sadly Dorset stuff fails to recognise main stream media's blatant attempts to smear UKIP at any opportunity. For the record the false allegations have been denied by Farage but the lack of facts don't seem to bother the likes of park silly shuffle and Dorset stuff. cj07589
  • Score: 25

2:27pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
Scuttling the ship...
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]Scuttling the ship... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -2

2:29pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

cj07589 wrote:
vincym wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course.
Sadly Dorset stuff fails to recognise main stream media's blatant attempts to smear UKIP at any opportunity. For the record the false allegations have been denied by Farage but the lack of facts don't seem to bother the likes of park silly shuffle and Dorset stuff.
Ahh - Ahh my sides hurt. I might need medicating. Lol doesn't do it justice...
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course.[/p][/quote]Sadly Dorset stuff fails to recognise main stream media's blatant attempts to smear UKIP at any opportunity. For the record the false allegations have been denied by Farage but the lack of facts don't seem to bother the likes of park silly shuffle and Dorset stuff.[/p][/quote]Ahh - Ahh my sides hurt. I might need medicating. Lol doesn't do it justice... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -1

3:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

cosmick wrote:
Its good to see the different sides of this debate, and we has seen some good points made.
Could someone tell me how we get the young people involved in running the country ?
I spoke to a young lady in the bank at Dorchester and she did not know that UKIP was a political party. I gess she was about 27 years old.
How do we get.....Through education- a sound knowledge of the country's history is vital. Showing how it evolved into a Christian/democratic country which is the underlining ties that binds us all together for centuries, also information on current affairs and how it effects the lives of all in the country, well balanced debates on say twitter and face FB about what kind of country they would like to grow up, live and work in and pass unto their children, encouraging an all embracing love of the Nation Family and concern for the needs of all- no separation of the age groups- us and them, talking an active interest in their daily lives, listening to the young peoples aspirations, fears, hopes dreams and helping in practical ways if necessary, inspiring leadership qualities by those who truly wish to get them involved through good example. Good teachers create followers. An inspirational teacher/ leader producers other inspirational leaders, people who are all rounded, well informed, of conviction,see the big picture as well as the detail, like people regardless of their views etc and works for the common good of all. In short clarity of thought, sensitivity of spirit and strength of will. Alas this kind of leader is in short supply because being popular is the easy way. Power, status and a job is more important for some leaders than good governance of those intrusted to their care that they have been given the position in good faith to serve. As a result there is drift, chaos and gridlock in so many areas of life these days. Sadly this way leaves not just the young uninspired as to the kind of country they would like to live in but this apathy goes right across the age groups. These are just my suggestions. To halt the decline in apathy means having a rethink and a revalue of how we adults lead.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Its good to see the different sides of this debate, and we has seen some good points made. Could someone tell me how we get the young people involved in running the country ? I spoke to a young lady in the bank at Dorchester and she did not know that UKIP was a political party. I gess she was about 27 years old.[/p][/quote]How do we get.....Through education- a sound knowledge of the country's history is vital. Showing how it evolved into a Christian/democratic country which is the underlining ties that binds us all together for centuries, also information on current affairs and how it effects the lives of all in the country, well balanced debates on say twitter and face FB about what kind of country they would like to grow up, live and work in and pass unto their children, encouraging an all embracing love of the Nation Family and concern for the needs of all- no separation of the age groups- us and them, talking an active interest in their daily lives, listening to the young peoples aspirations, fears, hopes dreams and helping in practical ways if necessary, inspiring leadership qualities by those who truly wish to get them involved through good example. Good teachers create followers. An inspirational teacher/ leader producers other inspirational leaders, people who are all rounded, well informed, of conviction,see the big picture as well as the detail, like people regardless of their views etc and works for the common good of all. In short clarity of thought, sensitivity of spirit and strength of will. Alas this kind of leader is in short supply because being popular is the easy way. Power, status and a job is more important for some leaders than good governance of those intrusted to their care that they have been given the position in good faith to serve. As a result there is drift, chaos and gridlock in so many areas of life these days. Sadly this way leaves not just the young uninspired as to the kind of country they would like to live in but this apathy goes right across the age groups. These are just my suggestions. To halt the decline in apathy means having a rethink and a revalue of how we adults lead. vincym
  • Score: 9

4:23pm Thu 13 Mar 14

DavidJG says...

All elections are serious to serious people. Belittling arguments by attempting to smear your opposition are crude and tend to reflect back on those who use such tactics. I would have thought that quoting recent antics of a serving MEP whose last reported "incident" was after he had been booted out of UKIP should reflect well on a party who are prepared to get rid of people who fail to live up to an expected standard of behaviour. Anyone who reads tabloids can make slurs against UKIPpers - but just as you can from many politicians of the Lib/Lab/Con parties - some of whom have ended up in prison. So please don't suggest that only UKIP politicians are rogues and odd-balls. Or have people forgotten that FAIRNESS is an English word ?
Despite some pretty thin arguments - and those mainly of the crowd chanting hysterical variety - ignorance plays a major part in their opinion. Just take time to READ UKIP's literature and remember that, whatever your opinion, the election results are the only results that will count and currently, UKIP are on the upsurge, nationally and in Dorset.
All elections are serious to serious people. Belittling arguments by attempting to smear your opposition are crude and tend to reflect back on those who use such tactics. I would have thought that quoting recent antics of a serving MEP whose last reported "incident" was after he had been booted out of UKIP should reflect well on a party who are prepared to get rid of people who fail to live up to an expected standard of behaviour. Anyone who reads tabloids can make slurs against UKIPpers - but just as you can from many politicians of the Lib/Lab/Con parties - some of whom have ended up in prison. So please don't suggest that only UKIP politicians are rogues and odd-balls. Or have people forgotten that FAIRNESS is an English word ? Despite some pretty thin arguments - and those mainly of the crowd chanting hysterical variety - ignorance plays a major part in their opinion. Just take time to READ UKIP's literature and remember that, whatever your opinion, the election results are the only results that will count and currently, UKIP are on the upsurge, nationally and in Dorset. DavidJG
  • Score: 17

4:27pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Dorset stuff says...

The thing is, the media do constantly report on the laughable statements that UKIP members say, vincym highlighted just a few of these earlier. Yet still so called educated people still want to vote for them. Double standards and blinkered views seem to be the thing in UKIP. I'm not going to read anymore of these posts as I feel there are just too many people around with fanatical views on this laughable party. They will never run this country, and thats a fact. Laters weirdos.
The thing is, the media do constantly report on the laughable statements that UKIP members say, vincym highlighted just a few of these earlier. Yet still so called educated people still want to vote for them. Double standards and blinkered views seem to be the thing in UKIP. I'm not going to read anymore of these posts as I feel there are just too many people around with fanatical views on this laughable party. They will never run this country, and thats a fact. Laters weirdos. Dorset stuff
  • Score: -3

4:48pm Thu 13 Mar 14

inquiringmind says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
The thing is, the media do constantly report on the laughable statements that UKIP members say, vincym highlighted just a few of these earlier. Yet still so called educated people still want to vote for them. Double standards and blinkered views seem to be the thing in UKIP. I'm not going to read anymore of these posts as I feel there are just too many people around with fanatical views on this laughable party. They will never run this country, and thats a fact. Laters weirdos.
Yes, educated people will vote for UKIP.

again I say this is the right attitude from vincy:

The country is losing a bit of its sovereignty on a daily basis through all the directives coming from Brussles. Which house holder will knowingly and willingly allow his authority to dribble away to some outside influence without making some concerted attempt to regain control? Which caring citizen willingly turns a blind eye to the outside influence of 26 other countries taking over how the country is to be run? We are all born with free will which enables us to be masters of our own fate not its slave. Having a spot of fun trying to discredit UKIP members who care enough about the country to try and halt the decline goes no way in stopping the decline. There is a truism- you never miss the water till the well runs dry. Regrets are about bad choices in life. I urge you to do some serious research about the true facts concerning the daily loss of this country's sovereignty. Regrets are about history's bad choices which cannot be changed. Come to the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea and a chat and take away some information. There is plenty available. We all love this country let us talk through our differences and try and work together for the common good of all.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: The thing is, the media do constantly report on the laughable statements that UKIP members say, vincym highlighted just a few of these earlier. Yet still so called educated people still want to vote for them. Double standards and blinkered views seem to be the thing in UKIP. I'm not going to read anymore of these posts as I feel there are just too many people around with fanatical views on this laughable party. They will never run this country, and thats a fact. Laters weirdos.[/p][/quote]Yes, educated people will vote for UKIP. again I say this is the right attitude from vincy: The country is losing a bit of its sovereignty on a daily basis through all the directives coming from Brussles. Which house holder will knowingly and willingly allow his authority to dribble away to some outside influence without making some concerted attempt to regain control? Which caring citizen willingly turns a blind eye to the outside influence of 26 other countries taking over how the country is to be run? We are all born with free will which enables us to be masters of our own fate not its slave. Having a spot of fun trying to discredit UKIP members who care enough about the country to try and halt the decline goes no way in stopping the decline. There is a truism- you never miss the water till the well runs dry. Regrets are about bad choices in life. I urge you to do some serious research about the true facts concerning the daily loss of this country's sovereignty. Regrets are about history's bad choices which cannot be changed. Come to the shop on a Wednesday for a cup of tea and a chat and take away some information. There is plenty available. We all love this country let us talk through our differences and try and work together for the common good of all. inquiringmind
  • Score: 16

4:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
The thing is, the media do constantly report on the laughable statements that UKIP members say, vincym highlighted just a few of these earlier. Yet still so called educated people still want to vote for them. Double standards and blinkered views seem to be the thing in UKIP. I'm not going to read anymore of these posts as I feel there are just too many people around with fanatical views on this laughable party. They will never run this country, and thats a fact. Laters weirdos.
I gess that means you will be making no more comments on any UKIP story then, thank god.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: The thing is, the media do constantly report on the laughable statements that UKIP members say, vincym highlighted just a few of these earlier. Yet still so called educated people still want to vote for them. Double standards and blinkered views seem to be the thing in UKIP. I'm not going to read anymore of these posts as I feel there are just too many people around with fanatical views on this laughable party. They will never run this country, and thats a fact. Laters weirdos.[/p][/quote]I gess that means you will be making no more comments on any UKIP story then, thank god. cosmick
  • Score: 7

5:06pm Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
vincym wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course.
Sadly Dorset stuff fails to recognise main stream media's blatant attempts to smear UKIP at any opportunity. For the record the false allegations have been denied by Farage but the lack of facts don't seem to bother the likes of park silly shuffle and Dorset stuff.
Ahh - Ahh my sides hurt. I might need medicating. Lol doesn't do it justice...
Whatever benefits you believe you may personally accrue from this country being a member of the EU there can be no answer to each and everyone of us losing our democratic right to govern our selves. Many lives were lost in the two world wars to achieve this principle -may they RIP. It may be a laughing matter for you today but know that many past generations in this country and in the Commonwealth laid down their lives in the past to fight for this principle. For how much longer will we all be allowed by the EU to exercise this fundamental human right will depend ( without your help obviously) a concerted effort by those who care for this country to keep this principle going. Take a serious look at the consequences of our EU involvement. I think your head will also hurt.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course.[/p][/quote]Sadly Dorset stuff fails to recognise main stream media's blatant attempts to smear UKIP at any opportunity. For the record the false allegations have been denied by Farage but the lack of facts don't seem to bother the likes of park silly shuffle and Dorset stuff.[/p][/quote]Ahh - Ahh my sides hurt. I might need medicating. Lol doesn't do it justice...[/p][/quote]Whatever benefits you believe you may personally accrue from this country being a member of the EU there can be no answer to each and everyone of us losing our democratic right to govern our selves. Many lives were lost in the two world wars to achieve this principle -may they RIP. It may be a laughing matter for you today but know that many past generations in this country and in the Commonwealth laid down their lives in the past to fight for this principle. For how much longer will we all be allowed by the EU to exercise this fundamental human right will depend ( without your help obviously) a concerted effort by those who care for this country to keep this principle going. Take a serious look at the consequences of our EU involvement. I think your head will also hurt. vincym
  • Score: 18

9:56pm Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
After the banking crisis, when the country went into a deep recession and many lost their homes, jobs etc, someone in this country asked the famous question- ' Did know one know what was happening?' This cannot be said about the undemocratic EU with its horse and the undemocratic process going on behind closed doors. Mr Farage (in spite of a barrage of abuse) has been the whistle blower over the years letting all those prepared to listen know about the deceitful erosion of our democratic right to govern ourselves resulting in severe financial disadvantage, unrestricted mass immigration, the side lining of the Commonwealth countries and interference in almost everything we do. We should honour him for his perseverance in fighting a just cause on our behalf. He also deserves our heart felt thanks. You first!!
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]After the banking crisis, when the country went into a deep recession and many lost their homes, jobs etc, someone in this country asked the famous question- ' Did know one know what was happening?' This cannot be said about the undemocratic EU with its horse and the undemocratic process going on behind closed doors. Mr Farage (in spite of a barrage of abuse) has been the whistle blower over the years letting all those prepared to listen know about the deceitful erosion of our democratic right to govern ourselves resulting in severe financial disadvantage, unrestricted mass immigration, the side lining of the Commonwealth countries and interference in almost everything we do. We should honour him for his perseverance in fighting a just cause on our behalf. He also deserves our heart felt thanks. You first!! vincym
  • Score: 9

10:32pm Thu 13 Mar 14

cj07589 says...

vincym wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
After the banking crisis, when the country went into a deep recession and many lost their homes, jobs etc, someone in this country asked the famous question- ' Did know one know what was happening?' This cannot be said about the undemocratic EU with its horse and the undemocratic process going on behind closed doors. Mr Farage (in spite of a barrage of abuse) has been the whistle blower over the years letting all those prepared to listen know about the deceitful erosion of our democratic right to govern ourselves resulting in severe financial disadvantage, unrestricted mass immigration, the side lining of the Commonwealth countries and interference in almost everything we do. We should honour him for his perseverance in fighting a just cause on our behalf. He also deserves our heart felt thanks. You first!!
Mr Farage represents strong and true leadership currently lacking in our domestic politics. Looking forward to his debate with Nick Clegg and the forthcoming May polls. All the best!
[quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]After the banking crisis, when the country went into a deep recession and many lost their homes, jobs etc, someone in this country asked the famous question- ' Did know one know what was happening?' This cannot be said about the undemocratic EU with its horse and the undemocratic process going on behind closed doors. Mr Farage (in spite of a barrage of abuse) has been the whistle blower over the years letting all those prepared to listen know about the deceitful erosion of our democratic right to govern ourselves resulting in severe financial disadvantage, unrestricted mass immigration, the side lining of the Commonwealth countries and interference in almost everything we do. We should honour him for his perseverance in fighting a just cause on our behalf. He also deserves our heart felt thanks. You first!![/p][/quote]Mr Farage represents strong and true leadership currently lacking in our domestic politics. Looking forward to his debate with Nick Clegg and the forthcoming May polls. All the best! cj07589
  • Score: 11

10:47pm Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

vincym wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
After the banking crisis, when the country went into a deep recession and many lost their homes, jobs etc, someone in this country asked the famous question- ' Did know one know what was happening?' This cannot be said about the undemocratic EU with its horse and the undemocratic process going on behind closed doors. Mr Farage (in spite of a barrage of abuse) has been the whistle blower over the years letting all those prepared to listen know about the deceitful erosion of our democratic right to govern ourselves resulting in severe financial disadvantage, unrestricted mass immigration, the side lining of the Commonwealth countries and interference in almost everything we do. We should honour him for his perseverance in fighting a just cause on our behalf. He also deserves our heart felt thanks. You first!!
Horse trading!!
[quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]After the banking crisis, when the country went into a deep recession and many lost their homes, jobs etc, someone in this country asked the famous question- ' Did know one know what was happening?' This cannot be said about the undemocratic EU with its horse and the undemocratic process going on behind closed doors. Mr Farage (in spite of a barrage of abuse) has been the whistle blower over the years letting all those prepared to listen know about the deceitful erosion of our democratic right to govern ourselves resulting in severe financial disadvantage, unrestricted mass immigration, the side lining of the Commonwealth countries and interference in almost everything we do. We should honour him for his perseverance in fighting a just cause on our behalf. He also deserves our heart felt thanks. You first!![/p][/quote]Horse trading!! vincym
  • Score: 1

11:45pm Thu 13 Mar 14

vincym says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
Scuttling the ship...
Our involvement with the EU is already making slow progress towards scuttling the ship you too are on and this fact seems to pass you by which is difficult to understand. Please drop into the shop for a cup of tea, a chat and some information so that ship England is preserved for all who sail in her.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]Scuttling the ship...[/p][/quote]Our involvement with the EU is already making slow progress towards scuttling the ship you too are on and this fact seems to pass you by which is difficult to understand. Please drop into the shop for a cup of tea, a chat and some information so that ship England is preserved for all who sail in her. vincym
  • Score: 7

9:18am Fri 14 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

vincym wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
Scuttling the ship...
Our involvement with the EU is already making slow progress towards scuttling the ship you too are on and this fact seems to pass you by which is difficult to understand. Please drop into the shop for a cup of tea, a chat and some information so that ship England is preserved for all who sail in her.
What a load of old tripe. Just in case you have not noticed we live in a global market and Farage's idea of a dad's army keeping Johnny foreigner out is outdated. Being in the EU does not stop us from trading globally and you should stop misleading readers by saying that it does. As for the tea a chat and some misinformation I don't think the majority of sane readers will be taking you up on that offer!
[quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]Scuttling the ship...[/p][/quote]Our involvement with the EU is already making slow progress towards scuttling the ship you too are on and this fact seems to pass you by which is difficult to understand. Please drop into the shop for a cup of tea, a chat and some information so that ship England is preserved for all who sail in her.[/p][/quote]What a load of old tripe. Just in case you have not noticed we live in a global market and Farage's idea of a dad's army keeping Johnny foreigner out is outdated. Being in the EU does not stop us from trading globally and you should stop misleading readers by saying that it does. As for the tea a chat and some misinformation I don't think the majority of sane readers will be taking you up on that offer! woodsedge
  • Score: -6

10:02am Fri 14 Mar 14

vincym says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
cosmick wrote:
inquiringmind wrote:
I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist!
Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills.
I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause.
UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U.
When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you?
Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).
Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.
Is your user name picked with a sense of irony?
Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country.
We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.
If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.
If you are not,

A ) White
B ) Christian
C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen.
D ) Moderately wealthy

irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.
My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are:

a) not children
b) not gullible
c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community!
d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote

I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP.

I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.
Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip.
You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity.
There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority.

So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?
West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.
Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs.
Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries.
Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different...
So you think west indians are mentally deranged, on drugs, we all work crap jobs and then you throw in claiming benefit as well? You know absolutely nothing about us, our local community. You are offensive not only to me but to the whole ethnic community who you clearly look down on. I noted from all the comments yesterday that my positive support for UKIP - the only party who actively support people from the commonwealth in reestablishing our trade and giving us an equal opportunity to study, live and work here - was given kind and positive words by people also who support UKIP either similar or other reasons. The only people on here who have been rude and hateful would be YOU and other people who clearly do not support UKIP. You are entitled to your opinion but the way you think it is ok to treat me makes yourself look bad and shows you for what you really are. I spoke to my family about these comments yesterday and will be speaking to my friends and those in the community. This kind of hatefulness is not to be tolerated. Shame on you.
You are about as West Indian as I am Dutch. Your username is a total giveaway.
You are a white at least middle-aged probably protestant man that lives possible remotely to Dorset and hates everyone below the age of about fifty.
You are also not very savvy about posting in forums or you would have spotted a very serious mistake you have made. The Police have access to all public domain websites like this one, and you are trying to generate racism via backhanded implication, which is still a serious crime - I would crawl back under the rock that you came from if I were you...
Hello guys. The terms we have all been asked to subscribe to is this - Do not post anything that is false, abusive and malicious. I am West Indian and contribute to the post. The person you are addressing this post too is also West Indian. The person has not broken any of the rules it looks as you have by writing and giving your support. What we are debating is very serious and effects us all. It is obvious that we all don't share the same views. Can we not though agree to disagree in a more circumspect way. You have quite clearly caused offence. Just be sensible and apologise. And could others not continue to subscribe to it by giving their approval. Just listen to what the person is saying and know and understand the harm you are doing. Stop it please and apologise for everyone's sake. Let us all be friends even though we don't share the same views.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inquiringmind[/bold] wrote: I think it is very good that UKIP have opened up in Dorchester - finally I feel there is an alternative to the other parties in this area!! There are a lot of people living around Dorchester who come from further away than Europe. I am west indian and feel that the UK has lost sight of its important connection with the commonwealth, in favour of closer ties to the EU. UKIP is the only party that is actively and vocally in support of strengthening and restoring its ties to the commonwealth - including trade. Every country should have the right to choose who can enter and live there. Unfortunately, because immigration from EU cannot be controlled then the government is cutting back on immigrants from other countries. My own family are struggling with visas. Commonwealth citizens have and can make a great contribution to the UK. Good on you UKIP, you get my vote and I do not see you as racist![/p][/quote]Thank you for your support on this subject. I agree with every thing you say, people from all countrys could be good for this countrywith the right skills. I had an Indian nurse looking after me at D.C.H, her husband was a doctor there. UKIP are not racist and offer membership to all who support there cause. UKIP want to trade with the world, thats all the world including the E/U. When we come out of the E/U i dont think V.W will stop selling there cars in BRITIAN do you? Lets get back to the trading partners we have delt with for years. TEA, COCOA, COFFEE, BEEF, LAMB, FRUIT, BANNANAS(ANY SHAPE).[/p][/quote]Thank you again! This is why UKIP will get my vote and from people in my community.[/p][/quote]Is your user name picked with a sense of irony? Its not that ukip are racist, its just that they cannot remove the small print from their manifesto that says they will expel all non white christians from the country. We all know its true - why don't you simply admit that you don't like immigrants, including all the ones from as far back as the fifties? You'd get more respect for being honest rather than trying to lie.[/p][/quote]If you are refer to me then I think that you don't understand.. my family are commonwealth immigrants who have come up to the UK in the 50s and 60s and we still have family members, and know others who wish to emigrate here today. Unfortunately because of the unrestricted numbers of people coming to the UK from Europe there are even greater restrictions on non-EU immigrants in the present day. UKIP wants the UK to come out of the European Union and supports greater ties with the commonwealth. People from the commonwealth are still proud of our link with Britain and we hope that when the UK comes out of the EU that the government will choose to allow more of us to come here as we have a lot that we can still offer and we hope that we can trade freely again once more between our countries.[/p][/quote]If you are not, A ) White B ) Christian C ) English speaking - and I don't mean a bit of English I mean you will have to talk like the Queen. D ) Moderately wealthy irrespective of which commonwealth country you come from, they do not like you and will most certainly not support any ideas you might have about bringing any family in from overseas. ukip do not like anyone and do not believe in immigration of any kind, especially if you happen not to be white. Sounds to me - and Im making a judgement call on your situation, but you have been fed a load of lies, unless you happen to be a vicar from Vancouver that has an extended family there.[/p][/quote]My family and I did not get off the boat yesterday, as we say, and neither did our other friends in the minority ethnic community in this area and the wider area. Which means that we are: a) not children b) not gullible c) capable of knowing and understanding the policies of UKIP - many of which we see the sense of, and we are christian people too in this community! d) not going to be bullied or dictated to by anyone as to how we vote I will be voting for UKIP, my family will be voting for UKIP, our friends will be voting for UKIP, the commonwealth community will be voting for UKIP. I do not have to agree with you and I am entitled to give my opinion without anyone speaking for me or speaking down to me.[/p][/quote]Oh please - There is not the slightest chance you are from an ethnic minority either immigrant or not, and voting for ukip. You would not do this because - basically you would be voting for a quasi political party that far from representing your interests would in fact discriminate against you because of your ethnicity. There is however a very good chance that you might be a ukip member - white, probably much older, probably fairly wealthy and certainly pretty racist, attempting to discredit someone speaking out against ukip. I don't even believe that someone from an ethnic minority would describe themselves as from an ethnic minority. So - if you are an ethnic minority, where are you from roughly and what language do you speak? or should I just call you trevor?[/p][/quote]West Indian and proud, clearly English speaking, and not old. In the Dorchester community my family has friends that are indian, filipino, nigerian and zimbabwean and that doesn't cover the wider Dorset area where we have friends from other national backgrounds. You may not realise it but international communities often stick together and know each other. How well do you actually know the minority groups in your local community? Your negative and derogatory comments would suggest not very well at all but I could be wrong. And yes, I can say ethnic minority if I want to. I feel I have the right, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]Having lived in cities Im well aware of the ethnic groups in the immediate area because they number so few. You unfortunately picked the least likely group to support ukip. Indian you might have looked a bit more believable but theres not a chance anyone west indian is going to support ukip - not without being mentally deranged or on drugs. Id suggest you posting is not doing you any favours. Your as white as I am, but the difference between you and me is that you think that makes you better. Immigrants do the country a favour. They work crap jobs that English people don't want to work, and they make tax money. Claiming benefit is so difficult that i'll bet the queen would have problems - good job her benefit payments have been put in place for centuries. Why don't you do yourself a favour and stop hating people because they are different...[/p][/quote]So you think west indians are mentally deranged, on drugs, we all work crap jobs and then you throw in claiming benefit as well? You know absolutely nothing about us, our local community. You are offensive not only to me but to the whole ethnic community who you clearly look down on. I noted from all the comments yesterday that my positive support for UKIP - the only party who actively support people from the commonwealth in reestablishing our trade and giving us an equal opportunity to study, live and work here - was given kind and positive words by people also who support UKIP either similar or other reasons. The only people on here who have been rude and hateful would be YOU and other people who clearly do not support UKIP. You are entitled to your opinion but the way you think it is ok to treat me makes yourself look bad and shows you for what you really are. I spoke to my family about these comments yesterday and will be speaking to my friends and those in the community. This kind of hatefulness is not to be tolerated. Shame on you.[/p][/quote]You are about as West Indian as I am Dutch. Your username is a total giveaway. You are a white at least middle-aged probably protestant man that lives possible remotely to Dorset and hates everyone below the age of about fifty. You are also not very savvy about posting in forums or you would have spotted a very serious mistake you have made. The Police have access to all public domain websites like this one, and you are trying to generate racism via backhanded implication, which is still a serious crime - I would crawl back under the rock that you came from if I were you...[/p][/quote]Hello guys. The terms we have all been asked to subscribe to is this - Do not post anything that is false, abusive and malicious. I am West Indian and contribute to the post. The person you are addressing this post too is also West Indian. The person has not broken any of the rules it looks as you have by writing and giving your support. What we are debating is very serious and effects us all. It is obvious that we all don't share the same views. Can we not though agree to disagree in a more circumspect way. You have quite clearly caused offence. Just be sensible and apologise. And could others not continue to subscribe to it by giving their approval. Just listen to what the person is saying and know and understand the harm you are doing. Stop it please and apologise for everyone's sake. Let us all be friends even though we don't share the same views. vincym
  • Score: 8

10:36am Fri 14 Mar 14

vincym says...

woodsedge wrote:
vincym wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
Scuttling the ship...
Our involvement with the EU is already making slow progress towards scuttling the ship you too are on and this fact seems to pass you by which is difficult to understand. Please drop into the shop for a cup of tea, a chat and some information so that ship England is preserved for all who sail in her.
What a load of old tripe. Just in case you have not noticed we live in a global market and Farage's idea of a dad's army keeping Johnny foreigner out is outdated. Being in the EU does not stop us from trading globally and you should stop misleading readers by saying that it does. As for the tea a chat and some misinformation I don't think the majority of sane readers will be taking you up on that offer!
Yes we have always lived in a global market and yes England does not have to be part of The EU to trade with other countries. So what is the reason for being part of the EU? Unrestricted immigration is helpful to no one there is already a shortage of houses, jobs places at schools etc. for those already living here and those wishing to come. How many people can you fit into your own home and provide for? Think on that small scale then apply it to a country with all the other services that will be required. There are people of different ages who are members of UKIP. The Dad army image is off goal. You are always welcome for a cup of tea. Leave others to decide if they wish to take up the invitation or not. We live in a democratic country so we all have free speech but can we not be polite to each other even if we don't agree?
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]Scuttling the ship...[/p][/quote]Our involvement with the EU is already making slow progress towards scuttling the ship you too are on and this fact seems to pass you by which is difficult to understand. Please drop into the shop for a cup of tea, a chat and some information so that ship England is preserved for all who sail in her.[/p][/quote]What a load of old tripe. Just in case you have not noticed we live in a global market and Farage's idea of a dad's army keeping Johnny foreigner out is outdated. Being in the EU does not stop us from trading globally and you should stop misleading readers by saying that it does. As for the tea a chat and some misinformation I don't think the majority of sane readers will be taking you up on that offer![/p][/quote]Yes we have always lived in a global market and yes England does not have to be part of The EU to trade with other countries. So what is the reason for being part of the EU? Unrestricted immigration is helpful to no one there is already a shortage of houses, jobs places at schools etc. for those already living here and those wishing to come. How many people can you fit into your own home and provide for? Think on that small scale then apply it to a country with all the other services that will be required. There are people of different ages who are members of UKIP. The Dad army image is off goal. You are always welcome for a cup of tea. Leave others to decide if they wish to take up the invitation or not. We live in a democratic country so we all have free speech but can we not be polite to each other even if we don't agree? vincym
  • Score: 17

5:02pm Fri 14 Mar 14

vincym says...

vincym wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
vincym wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
Scuttling the ship...
Our involvement with the EU is already making slow progress towards scuttling the ship you too are on and this fact seems to pass you by which is difficult to understand. Please drop into the shop for a cup of tea, a chat and some information so that ship England is preserved for all who sail in her.
What a load of old tripe. Just in case you have not noticed we live in a global market and Farage's idea of a dad's army keeping Johnny foreigner out is outdated. Being in the EU does not stop us from trading globally and you should stop misleading readers by saying that it does. As for the tea a chat and some misinformation I don't think the majority of sane readers will be taking you up on that offer!
Yes we have always lived in a global market and yes England does not have to be part of The EU to trade with other countries. So what is the reason for being part of the EU? Unrestricted immigration is helpful to no one there is already a shortage of houses, jobs places at schools etc. for those already living here and those wishing to come. How many people can you fit into your own home and provide for? Think on that small scale then apply it to a country with all the other services that will be required. There are people of different ages who are members of UKIP. The Dad army image is off goal. You are always welcome for a cup of tea. Leave others to decide if they wish to take up the invitation or not. We live in a democratic country so we all have free speech but can we not be polite to each other even if we don't agree?
Facts are stubborn things. So let us dispel the misinformation about UKIP that 1 - It is racist party and against immigration - 2. A Dad's army -3. mainly men and its members are- 4.. unintelligent. My husband and I are both members of UKIP. I am West Indian. West Indians are a rainbow of people descendants from Africa, India, China, Java, Syria, Lebanon, Portugal, Spain, France, Holland, England, Ireland, Scotland with also Jews and Caribs the original people of the Islands. My husband is English. He chose to work as an aid worker in three oversees countries in a time span of 11 years. His first posting was as a VSO teacher to my Island. Our daughter was born in one of these countries in the East. Our history shows that we are not racist. How can we be? I am of mixed ancestry and grew up in a mixed society. My husband chose to live and work in 3 oversees countries populated with people of different races. He also married a West Indian. EU policies is what is side lining immigration and trade from the Commonwealth. The Commonwealth was very much part of the war effort and provided workers for jobs that could not be filled in England after the war. 2. Dad's army party. We have young members in the local branch. There were also many young members at the last UKIP conference even if shockingly the press reportedly differently. I was there so I know. 3. Mainly men. We do have ladies attached to the local branch and indeed there were many of all ages at the last conference - 4. unintelligent. UKIP people are people from different backgrounds. We love this country as much as you do. We are a people of an open and inquiring mind not sheep. We have taken the time and effort to research all the issues concerning our membership of the EU. There are two choices. Continue our EU membership and be governed by 26 other countries or leave to be able to exercise our individual right as to who should Govern this country and how it should be run. The underlining principle of the EU is the free movement of people so no border controls. Unrestricted immigration to the country is not sensible especially during the recession resulting in many job losses for those who already live here. With many more workers looking for work and the huge influx from the EU salaries are been driven down. We now have food banks in this country. There are not enough houses, school places etc. The party that asks for these issues to be discussed openly and honestly you call racists. Your mantra is let everyone come ignoring the devastating consequences for those already struggling here. You will be always welcome to come and have a cup of tea and take away any of the information. Vote for either of the choices but at least take the time and effort for it to be an informed choice. Many citizens of other countries are denied the democratic right and privilege to vote you do. For how much longer will the EU allow this who knows. Make good use of it at the ballot box while you can. Just know facts are stubborn things. Help yourself. Give up on the misinformation and come on down.
[quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]Scuttling the ship...[/p][/quote]Our involvement with the EU is already making slow progress towards scuttling the ship you too are on and this fact seems to pass you by which is difficult to understand. Please drop into the shop for a cup of tea, a chat and some information so that ship England is preserved for all who sail in her.[/p][/quote]What a load of old tripe. Just in case you have not noticed we live in a global market and Farage's idea of a dad's army keeping Johnny foreigner out is outdated. Being in the EU does not stop us from trading globally and you should stop misleading readers by saying that it does. As for the tea a chat and some misinformation I don't think the majority of sane readers will be taking you up on that offer![/p][/quote]Yes we have always lived in a global market and yes England does not have to be part of The EU to trade with other countries. So what is the reason for being part of the EU? Unrestricted immigration is helpful to no one there is already a shortage of houses, jobs places at schools etc. for those already living here and those wishing to come. How many people can you fit into your own home and provide for? Think on that small scale then apply it to a country with all the other services that will be required. There are people of different ages who are members of UKIP. The Dad army image is off goal. You are always welcome for a cup of tea. Leave others to decide if they wish to take up the invitation or not. We live in a democratic country so we all have free speech but can we not be polite to each other even if we don't agree?[/p][/quote]Facts are stubborn things. So let us dispel the misinformation about UKIP that 1 - It is racist party and against immigration - 2. A Dad's army -3. mainly men and its members are- 4.. unintelligent. My husband and I are both members of UKIP. I am West Indian. West Indians are a rainbow of people descendants from Africa, India, China, Java, Syria, Lebanon, Portugal, Spain, France, Holland, England, Ireland, Scotland with also Jews and Caribs the original people of the Islands. My husband is English. He chose to work as an aid worker in three oversees countries in a time span of 11 years. His first posting was as a VSO teacher to my Island. Our daughter was born in one of these countries in the East. Our history shows that we are not racist. How can we be? I am of mixed ancestry and grew up in a mixed society. My husband chose to live and work in 3 oversees countries populated with people of different races. He also married a West Indian. EU policies is what is side lining immigration and trade from the Commonwealth. The Commonwealth was very much part of the war effort and provided workers for jobs that could not be filled in England after the war. 2. Dad's army party. We have young members in the local branch. There were also many young members at the last UKIP conference even if shockingly the press reportedly differently. I was there so I know. 3. Mainly men. We do have ladies attached to the local branch and indeed there were many of all ages at the last conference - 4. unintelligent. UKIP people are people from different backgrounds. We love this country as much as you do. We are a people of an open and inquiring mind not sheep. We have taken the time and effort to research all the issues concerning our membership of the EU. There are two choices. Continue our EU membership and be governed by 26 other countries or leave to be able to exercise our individual right as to who should Govern this country and how it should be run. The underlining principle of the EU is the free movement of people so no border controls. Unrestricted immigration to the country is not sensible especially during the recession resulting in many job losses for those who already live here. With many more workers looking for work and the huge influx from the EU salaries are been driven down. We now have food banks in this country. There are not enough houses, school places etc. The party that asks for these issues to be discussed openly and honestly you call racists. Your mantra is let everyone come ignoring the devastating consequences for those already struggling here. You will be always welcome to come and have a cup of tea and take away any of the information. Vote for either of the choices but at least take the time and effort for it to be an informed choice. Many citizens of other countries are denied the democratic right and privilege to vote you do. For how much longer will the EU allow this who knows. Make good use of it at the ballot box while you can. Just know facts are stubborn things. Help yourself. Give up on the misinformation and come on down. vincym
  • Score: 6

12:39pm Sat 15 Mar 14

vincym says...

westbaywonder wrote:
Just glad i have no children and will not be on this earth in another 50 years time!
English born and bred and watching the slow death of our Motherland year after year.
I know how you feel and I am sorry. UKIP is trying to halt the decline. If you can do drop in for a cup of tea and a chat on a Wednesday. We would love to see you and listen to your concerns.
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: Just glad i have no children and will not be on this earth in another 50 years time! English born and bred and watching the slow death of our Motherland year after year.[/p][/quote]I know how you feel and I am sorry. UKIP is trying to halt the decline. If you can do drop in for a cup of tea and a chat on a Wednesday. We would love to see you and listen to your concerns. vincym
  • Score: 0

12:39pm Sat 15 Mar 14

vincym says...

westbaywonder wrote:
Just glad i have no children and will not be on this earth in another 50 years time!
English born and bred and watching the slow death of our Motherland year after year.
I know how you feel and I am sorry. UKIP is trying to halt the decline. If you can do drop in for a cup of tea and a chat on a Wednesday. We would love to see you and listen to your concerns.
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: Just glad i have no children and will not be on this earth in another 50 years time! English born and bred and watching the slow death of our Motherland year after year.[/p][/quote]I know how you feel and I am sorry. UKIP is trying to halt the decline. If you can do drop in for a cup of tea and a chat on a Wednesday. We would love to see you and listen to your concerns. vincym
  • Score: 0

3:31pm Sat 15 Mar 14

vincym says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
vincym wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course.
Sadly Dorset stuff fails to recognise main stream media's blatant attempts to smear UKIP at any opportunity. For the record the false allegations have been denied by Farage but the lack of facts don't seem to bother the likes of park silly shuffle and Dorset stuff.
Ahh - Ahh my sides hurt. I might need medicating. Lol doesn't do it justice...
The underlying principle.. Who Governs England the EU or our elected politicians? and unrestricted immigration are the issues that will be contested at the ballot box come May. None of us are perfect. The leaders of the three main parties are also not perfect. Nick Clegg - The tuition fees issue? David Cameron - The promised referendum before the last election? Ed Milliband - his treatment of his older brother as regards the leadership of the Labour party?
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vincym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]I have no access to Nigel Farage's bed room nor would I wish too. What I do know is that he made many personal sacrifices and worked hard over the years to bring to the attention of the general public the increasing loss of this country's sovereignty. Anyone who loves this country as he has clearly shown by word and deed and putting his head above the parapet facing down many powerful people ( with a vested interest in being part of the EU) people not just in this country but in the EU who have always tried any means available to keep him quiet will always have my sympathy and support. I have no idea if the allegations are true or false. What I do know is that no one is perfect. Judge not and you will not be judged. Gloat over what might be a failing of someone and others will do the same to you. There but for the Grace of God go I. Those who have always tried to keep him quiet will always try any means available to stop the citizens focusing in on the serious issue of the loss of sovereignty of this country. This issue is what needs urgent attention and due consideration for the coming elections in May- Who governs England 26 EU countries or democratically elected politicians from among us is the issue I will vote for at the ballot box. Nothing will throw me off this course.[/p][/quote]Sadly Dorset stuff fails to recognise main stream media's blatant attempts to smear UKIP at any opportunity. For the record the false allegations have been denied by Farage but the lack of facts don't seem to bother the likes of park silly shuffle and Dorset stuff.[/p][/quote]Ahh - Ahh my sides hurt. I might need medicating. Lol doesn't do it justice...[/p][/quote]The underlying principle.. Who Governs England the EU or our elected politicians? and unrestricted immigration are the issues that will be contested at the ballot box come May. None of us are perfect. The leaders of the three main parties are also not perfect. Nick Clegg - The tuition fees issue? David Cameron - The promised referendum before the last election? Ed Milliband - his treatment of his older brother as regards the leadership of the Labour party? vincym
  • Score: 0

8:24pm Sun 16 Mar 14

vincym says...

ronfogg wrote:
"Demographicall
y, UKIP voters attract men slightly more than women – and the party draws its support disproportionately from older people with fewer qualifications. Whereas 46% of all voters are over 50, and 38% under 40, the figures for UKIP are 71% and 15% respectively. And just 13% of UKIP supporters have university degrees – half the national average (though this partly reflects the age profile: older people generally were less likely to attend university when they were young)."
How are these people selected who answered this poll? People of all ages are continuing to join UKIP on a regular basis. I think you might have to play catch up if you wish to keep up on the true statistic at any given time. A degree does not necessarily trump the university of life - many entrepreneurs did not go to university. just one case in point. Wisdom comes not just through book knowledge but also through lived and learnt experience. The older members of the Nation are the ones who bring wisdom to the table. True we are now a more educated Nation but are we any more successful as a result?? We now have three young party leaders who hold degrees and yet are prepared to let 26 other countries Govern this country. They also allow unrestricted immigration and deny the electorate a referendum on these issues. How are their University Degrees helping this country?
[quote][p][bold]ronfogg[/bold] wrote: "Demographicall y, UKIP voters attract men slightly more than women – and the party draws its support disproportionately from older people with fewer qualifications. Whereas 46% of all voters are over 50, and 38% under 40, the figures for UKIP are 71% and 15% respectively. And just 13% of UKIP supporters have university degrees – half the national average (though this partly reflects the age profile: older people generally were less likely to attend university when they were young)."[/p][/quote]How are these people selected who answered this poll? People of all ages are continuing to join UKIP on a regular basis. I think you might have to play catch up if you wish to keep up on the true statistic at any given time. A degree does not necessarily trump the university of life - many entrepreneurs did not go to university. just one case in point. Wisdom comes not just through book knowledge but also through lived and learnt experience. The older members of the Nation are the ones who bring wisdom to the table. True we are now a more educated Nation but are we any more successful as a result?? We now have three young party leaders who hold degrees and yet are prepared to let 26 other countries Govern this country. They also allow unrestricted immigration and deny the electorate a referendum on these issues. How are their University Degrees helping this country? vincym
  • Score: 0

9:48pm Sun 16 Mar 14

vincym says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
cosmick wrote:
Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life.
The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so.
The 'British' way of life. What might that be then? Rounding up people we don't like and putting them on trains like cattle to the slaughter, not caring where they might end up? Seems reminiscent of Europe seventy five years ago to me. Thats not my Britain. Thats not what my grandparents fought for. They would be as disgusted as me with political party that has fascist sympathies moving to Dorchester.
Some of my family just like your family fought for the principle of self Governance for England and many other Nation states around the world. Many fought and died to ensure that a democratically elected Government from the people of the particular nation would rule each individual country not Hilter? History repeats itself again as the same question is again being asked. Should we be dictated to by an unelected body of bureaucrats from the EU or should we govern ourselves. UKIP is the party fighting for the principle of self governance. The fascist cap fits the Lib Lab Con parties. These are the parties who have allowed unelected bureaucrats to run this country and have consistently denied the electorate a referendum on this issue. There are men sleeping on the streets of Dorchester. This should be of a concern to you. Charity must begin at home. Do you look after the needs of others out side your home and simple ignore the needs of your loved ones???Do you encourage an unrestricted number of people into the country while ignoring the fact that we now have food banks in this country, people are sleeping on the streets and many of the citizens here do not have jobs? Common sense alone should say no. Help people here first and then later if possible help others wishing to come.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Great news UKIP has got its feet on the ground in DORSET now lets support them and keep or BRITISH way of life. The quicker we are out of the E/U the better. 212000 came to this country last year, GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY ? i dont think so.[/p][/quote]The 'British' way of life. What might that be then? Rounding up people we don't like and putting them on trains like cattle to the slaughter, not caring where they might end up? Seems reminiscent of Europe seventy five years ago to me. Thats not my Britain. Thats not what my grandparents fought for. They would be as disgusted as me with political party that has fascist sympathies moving to Dorchester.[/p][/quote]Some of my family just like your family fought for the principle of self Governance for England and many other Nation states around the world. Many fought and died to ensure that a democratically elected Government from the people of the particular nation would rule each individual country not Hilter? History repeats itself again as the same question is again being asked. Should we be dictated to by an unelected body of bureaucrats from the EU or should we govern ourselves. UKIP is the party fighting for the principle of self governance. The fascist cap fits the Lib Lab Con parties. These are the parties who have allowed unelected bureaucrats to run this country and have consistently denied the electorate a referendum on this issue. There are men sleeping on the streets of Dorchester. This should be of a concern to you. Charity must begin at home. Do you look after the needs of others out side your home and simple ignore the needs of your loved ones???Do you encourage an unrestricted number of people into the country while ignoring the fact that we now have food banks in this country, people are sleeping on the streets and many of the citizens here do not have jobs? Common sense alone should say no. Help people here first and then later if possible help others wishing to come. vincym
  • Score: 2

8:58am Mon 17 Mar 14

vincym says...

Evidently Chickentown wrote:
Voting for UKIP as a protest vote against the major parties is like soiling your hotel bed as a protest against bad service, and then realising you've got to now sleep in a soiled bed.
You have a bed and can afford a hotel bed. Think of the men of the road who sleep on hard concrete in Dorchester at night. This should concern you. Look after these people first before supporting the EU which has taken away England's right to have border controls resulting in a Mass influx of people coming here. It has now been reported that Bulgaria is selling Passports to people outside the EU. Where will it all end - in tears, civil unrest???
[quote][p][bold]Evidently Chickentown[/bold] wrote: Voting for UKIP as a protest vote against the major parties is like soiling your hotel bed as a protest against bad service, and then realising you've got to now sleep in a soiled bed.[/p][/quote]You have a bed and can afford a hotel bed. Think of the men of the road who sleep on hard concrete in Dorchester at night. This should concern you. Look after these people first before supporting the EU which has taken away England's right to have border controls resulting in a Mass influx of people coming here. It has now been reported that Bulgaria is selling Passports to people outside the EU. Where will it all end - in tears, civil unrest??? vincym
  • Score: 2

4:45am Wed 19 Mar 14

vincym says...

This country's sovereignty is ebbing away due to the regular directives deliberately imposed on it from the EU. Border controls have been removed to enable the free movement of people so the country can be subsumed into the EU to become just another region of the EU. Previous governments have denied the citizens of this country a referendum on this serious issue. Mr Cameron promises the country one if he is voted in at the next election. He also made this promise before the last election then broke his promise when he took office. It is good to see someone locally prepared to step up to the line to join many others in UKIP to stop this deceitful removal of this country's sovereignty. He has my full support.
This country's sovereignty is ebbing away due to the regular directives deliberately imposed on it from the EU. Border controls have been removed to enable the free movement of people so the country can be subsumed into the EU to become just another region of the EU. Previous governments have denied the citizens of this country a referendum on this serious issue. Mr Cameron promises the country one if he is voted in at the next election. He also made this promise before the last election then broke his promise when he took office. It is good to see someone locally prepared to step up to the line to join many others in UKIP to stop this deceitful removal of this country's sovereignty. He has my full support. vincym
  • Score: 1

10:37am Thu 20 Mar 14

Hunters Moon says...

Dorset stuff wrote:
Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really.
Dorset Stuff. If you were really educated as to the farce that is the EU you wouldn't be writing these rather uninformed comments. Don't always believe the press, most of the articles that go to print are part of a smear campaign against U.K.I.P. and are without foundation. We pay the EU fifty five million pounds per day, money which would be far better used in this country, not to mention the foreign aid, a massive amount of money that goes to places that do not need it. .Laws and directives that seriously affect us as a country are passed by faceless EU politicians simply by the press of a button, on a daily basis. Do you really want to be ruled by Brussels and to have decisions made for you by people who have no idea how we function. Do you want us to lose our identity as a country! We are a party that wants to do what is best for Britain and it's people. I defy you to argue with that!
[quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Noooooooooooo, who let UKIP into Dorchester!!! A campaigner turned up to my home the other day. I called him up on how we would cope as a country if we were not in the EU plus why are UKIP always in the news for saying ridicolous statements, the guy had nothing to say. I have noticed that people who follow UKIP generally seem to be very working class/non working class, says it all really.[/p][/quote]Dorset Stuff. If you were really educated as to the farce that is the EU you wouldn't be writing these rather uninformed comments. Don't always believe the press, most of the articles that go to print are part of a smear campaign against U.K.I.P. and are without foundation. We pay the EU fifty five million pounds per day, money which would be far better used in this country, not to mention the foreign aid, a massive amount of money that goes to places that do not need it. .Laws and directives that seriously affect us as a country are passed by faceless EU politicians simply by the press of a button, on a daily basis. Do you really want to be ruled by Brussels and to have decisions made for you by people who have no idea how we function. Do you want us to lose our identity as a country! We are a party that wants to do what is best for Britain and it's people. I defy you to argue with that! Hunters Moon
  • Score: 4

4:24pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Hunters Moon says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp.
Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions.
I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...
Parkstreetshuffle, must say that pseudonym conjures up a rather odd picture!
Your comment is rather volatile and would portray you as a very unpleasant person. I am sure that your ideas on U.K.I.P. are drawn from very limited knowledge, probably gleaned from the press and it's smear campaign against Nigel Farage. It's such a shame that people like you, who draw lofty and inaccurate opinions about U.K.I.P, are unable to think outside the box. I wouldn't even try to educate you to the finer points of this very worthy party, instead, you must wallow in short sightedness.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt that that allowing a party that has fascist sympathies any room at the table will usher in all kinds of extreme right wing nut cases as well as derailing a very very slow climb out of recession, given what they know about national finances could be written on the back of a stamp. Despite being very critical of politicians from both sides of the fence after the expenses scandal, all mainstream parties do have at least some credibility unlike ukip that are a bunch of clowns with dangerous ambitions. I think the country would be vastly improved by removing the kind of people that would support ukip. Id like to stick them on a train heading east. What a bright and beautiful day that would be...[/p][/quote]Parkstreetshuffle, must say that pseudonym conjures up a rather odd picture! Your comment is rather volatile and would portray you as a very unpleasant person. I am sure that your ideas on U.K.I.P. are drawn from very limited knowledge, probably gleaned from the press and it's smear campaign against Nigel Farage. It's such a shame that people like you, who draw lofty and inaccurate opinions about U.K.I.P, are unable to think outside the box. I wouldn't even try to educate you to the finer points of this very worthy party, instead, you must wallow in short sightedness. Hunters Moon
  • Score: 1

7:36pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Hunters Moon says...

cosmick wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
The fact that you are desperate enough to try and pass yourself off as black just proves how sad and pathetic ukip are.
Your party will never gain any meaningful political ground because your policies are based on hate and racism.
For all you who put remarks about UKIP being a racist party.
Google UKIP ESSEX and quite simply you will see evidence that UKIP IS NOT RACIST.
Still when you are told the truth you will not belive it because YOU CHOOSE NOT TO.
Please shuffle off to the park!! I think your comments are just meant to incite anger, actually, they are laughable and the sign of a person led by the nose. Keep them coming, so amusing and hardly a threat to U.K.I.P. Are you on some form of medication?
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: The fact that you are desperate enough to try and pass yourself off as black just proves how sad and pathetic ukip are. Your party will never gain any meaningful political ground because your policies are based on hate and racism.[/p][/quote]For all you who put remarks about UKIP being a racist party. Google UKIP ESSEX and quite simply you will see evidence that UKIP IS NOT RACIST. Still when you are told the truth you will not belive it because YOU CHOOSE NOT TO.[/p][/quote]Please shuffle off to the park!! I think your comments are just meant to incite anger, actually, they are laughable and the sign of a person led by the nose. Keep them coming, so amusing and hardly a threat to U.K.I.P. Are you on some form of medication? Hunters Moon
  • Score: 0

8:00pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Hunters Moon says...

cj07589 wrote:
highbloodpressure wrote:
I dislike UKIP for many reasons.
Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write.
UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik.
UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted.
UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals.
UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage.
I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything.
UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear.
My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters.
What a load of cobblers..........wh

ere do you get this complete and utter rubbish from? What worries me slightly more is you actually believe it as well!
Highbloodpressure
Please call in our to our U.K.I.P. office, we are there on Wednesdays. You would be most welcome to coffee and and first hand information that will allay all your fears about U.K.I.P.
From your high powered venom I would assume that you won't show up, in that case I will deduce that you don't want to hear the truth. I cannot understand why you are so angry, the comments you have made are completely without foundation. It would be nice to meet and balance out your accusations against U.K.I.P.
One thing I will tell you, is, that, I am female, valued and am always treated with courtesy by my male U.K.I.P. colleagues
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]highbloodpressure[/bold] wrote: I dislike UKIP for many reasons. Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write. UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik. UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted. UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals. UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage. I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything. UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear. My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters.[/p][/quote]What a load of cobblers..........wh ere do you get this complete and utter rubbish from? What worries me slightly more is you actually believe it as well![/p][/quote]Highbloodpressure Please call in our to our U.K.I.P. office, we are there on Wednesdays. You would be most welcome to coffee and and first hand information that will allay all your fears about U.K.I.P. From your high powered venom I would assume that you won't show up, in that case I will deduce that you don't want to hear the truth. I cannot understand why you are so angry, the comments you have made are completely without foundation. It would be nice to meet and balance out your accusations against U.K.I.P. One thing I will tell you, is, that, I am female, valued and am always treated with courtesy by my male U.K.I.P. colleagues Hunters Moon
  • Score: 0

8:26pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Hunters Moon says...

cj07589 wrote:
highbloodpressure wrote:
I dislike UKIP for many reasons.
Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write.
UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik.
UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted.
UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals.
UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage.
I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything.
UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear.
My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters.
What a load of cobblers..........wh

ere do you get this complete and utter rubbish from? What worries me slightly more is you actually believe it as well!
Highbloodpressure -how apt, The things that you have posted with regard to U.K.I.P. are not just inaccurate, but, thoroughly offensive. I am a U.K.I.P. member, and therefore take these insults as personal. I shall consult those in a more senior position within the party and see how they feel about these gross and indecent claims. Perhaps, it would be a good idea for you to reveal yourself at our U.K.I.P. office, stand up and be counted, substantiate your claims against U.K.I.P. and not hide behind a medical condition.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]highbloodpressure[/bold] wrote: I dislike UKIP for many reasons. Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write. UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik. UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted. UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals. UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage. I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything. UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear. My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters.[/p][/quote]What a load of cobblers..........wh ere do you get this complete and utter rubbish from? What worries me slightly more is you actually believe it as well![/p][/quote]Highbloodpressure -how apt, The things that you have posted with regard to U.K.I.P. are not just inaccurate, but, thoroughly offensive. I am a U.K.I.P. member, and therefore take these insults as personal. I shall consult those in a more senior position within the party and see how they feel about these gross and indecent claims. Perhaps, it would be a good idea for you to reveal yourself at our U.K.I.P. office, stand up and be counted, substantiate your claims against U.K.I.P. and not hide behind a medical condition. Hunters Moon
  • Score: 0

9:05pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Hunters Moon says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Dorset stuff wrote:
Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.
Scuttling the ship...
Nigel Farage's personal life is nothing to do with anybody, were you there, did you see him in the act, thought not! As a matter of fact, he is the chap I shall vote for. I saw him at the U.K.I.P. Spring Conference and found him inspiring and charismatic. As for an affair "apparently" is the crux of the matter, Yes, he employed his wife, and why not, my Husband employs me, there is no law against it. Anything else you would like to discuss, shuffle to our office, park, and we will , face to face sort out your difficulties with U.K.I.P.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorset stuff[/bold] wrote: Front page of The Times today, Farage apparently has been having an affair and giving money to his wife and mistress from his parties funds....... the kind of guy you want to vote for!! No.[/p][/quote]Scuttling the ship...[/p][/quote]Nigel Farage's personal life is nothing to do with anybody, were you there, did you see him in the act, thought not! As a matter of fact, he is the chap I shall vote for. I saw him at the U.K.I.P. Spring Conference and found him inspiring and charismatic. As for an affair "apparently" is the crux of the matter, Yes, he employed his wife, and why not, my Husband employs me, there is no law against it. Anything else you would like to discuss, shuffle to our office, park, and we will , face to face sort out your difficulties with U.K.I.P. Hunters Moon
  • Score: 0

6:20pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Hunters Moon says...

Hunters Moon wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
highbloodpressure wrote:
I dislike UKIP for many reasons.
Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write.
UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik.
UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted.
UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals.
UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage.
I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything.
UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear.
My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters.
What a load of cobblers..........wh


ere do you get this complete and utter rubbish from? What worries me slightly more is you actually believe it as well!
Highbloodpressure -how apt, The things that you have posted with regard to U.K.I.P. are not just inaccurate, but, thoroughly offensive. I am a U.K.I.P. member, and therefore take these insults as personal. I shall consult those in a more senior position within the party and see how they feel about these gross and indecent claims. Perhaps, it would be a good idea for you to reveal yourself at our U.K.I.P. office, stand up and be counted, substantiate your claims against U.K.I.P. and not hide behind a medical condition.
You have obviously seen Ghostbusters!
[quote][p][bold]Hunters Moon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]highbloodpressure[/bold] wrote: I dislike UKIP for many reasons. Many of their supporters who appear on this forum seem to be reactionary, spiteful, folk. I don't like what they write. UKIP have allied themselves to some extreme right-wing groups, one of which praised Breivik. UKIP candidates have declared that all disabled babies should be aborted. UKIP candidate suggested all homosexuals have sex with animals. UKIP chap said the storms were a punishment on D Cameron for not opposing gay marriage. I could go on. Anti colour, anti Europe, Anti women. Just anti everything. UKIP seems to be a party that feeds on fear. No strategies based on political thinking or economic plan, just fear. My real dilemma is where shall I put my vote when the time comes. It certainly won't be with UKIP, the dating agency for nutters.[/p][/quote]What a load of cobblers..........wh ere do you get this complete and utter rubbish from? What worries me slightly more is you actually believe it as well![/p][/quote]Highbloodpressure -how apt, The things that you have posted with regard to U.K.I.P. are not just inaccurate, but, thoroughly offensive. I am a U.K.I.P. member, and therefore take these insults as personal. I shall consult those in a more senior position within the party and see how they feel about these gross and indecent claims. Perhaps, it would be a good idea for you to reveal yourself at our U.K.I.P. office, stand up and be counted, substantiate your claims against U.K.I.P. and not hide behind a medical condition.[/p][/quote]You have obviously seen Ghostbusters! Hunters Moon
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