'Save Our Store' - Plea to help Weymouth shop that aids homeless

Dorset Echo: HELPING THE COMMUNITY: Colin Williams and Trevor Dymott with some of  the items available in store HELPING THE COMMUNITY: Colin Williams and Trevor Dymott with some of the items available in store

CALLS are being made to save a Weymouth store which helps struggling families and the homeless.

Bargain Brand Food Outlet faces closure after being refused planning permission to continue as a retail venture.

Couples Colin and Tracy Williams and Trevor and Helene Dymott set up the outlet at Lynch lane a year ago to provide cheaper food for the community.

Before the store opened, Mr Williams and Mr Dymott ran a garage from the same unit.

They turned it into a shop before seeking planning permission and the venture has been hugely popular with goods feeding the homeless through the charity Soul Food as well as local families on the breadline.

But planning permission for change of use has not been granted due to the loss of employment land.

There’s a chance the outlet could be saved if the owners can convince the authority responsible, West Dorset District Council, the shop is of community value.

Many have already expressed their outrage at the possible loss of the store, with hundreds of people writing to Mr Williams.

He said: “We want all those people who have relied on us in these difficult times to get in touch and show us their support.

“I now have to submit a revised planning application showing the council the shop is of a benefit to the community to have any chance of overturning their decision or I will be served with an enforcement notice to close the shop.”

He added: “We can only save this community shop with your help.

“I read in the Echo that there were 27 empty shops in the town centre – why do they want to close another?”

He said: “The council told us they don’t want a store in an area of high employment – but we are surrounded by retail and we are the only ones helping people.

“Basically all the food is around 25p and we are helping homeless people, single parents and those setting up on their own following homelessness and addiction.

“They can come in and get ingredients for a week’s worth of meals for under ten pounds – they can’t do that anywhere else.

“If Weymouth doesn’t want us we will go and help in some other town elsewhere.”
Soul Food outreach worker Angie Barnes visits the store weekly to get food for rough sleepers.

She said: “Please help save this vital and community based commodity.

“Only hundreds of letters will save this shop – please email Colin, your councillors and let them all know how important it is.

“We are running out of time.”

She added: “It mainly helps the rough sleepers but also helps single parents get stuff for school lunches.”

Borough councillor Gill Taylor is among those supporting the store.

She said: “It is sad that we need stores like this in the community but we do and it is helping people and families. Let us hope it can continue with its good work.”

Mr Williams will now submit a revised application by the end of the month, along with the residents’ letters and emails.

To get in touch email bargainbrandfoodoutlet@hotmail.co.uk

Support for food outlet

HUNDREDS of struggling residents have expressed their support for the Bargain Brand Food Outlet.

Single mum Stacie Lowry wrote: “I am absolutely appalled that you are intending to serve a notice on this store.

“In a time when more and more people in this town are relying on food banks because money is tight.

“The food outlet is a shining beacon to us all.”

Ros Thompson said: “I am an OAP and since this outlet opened it has made such a difference to my life. I am now able to buy treats for my grandchildren.”

'Key employment area'

WEST Dorset District Council has refused planning permission to turn the unit from a garage/MOT station into a shop and warehouse.

The refusal was due to ‘the retail use results in a loss of employment land contrary to adopted policy of the West Dorset District Local Plan 2006”.

It also said the area is ‘identified as a key employment site within West Dorset, Weymouth and Portland Draft Local Plan’ and that it fails to ‘on site support facilities or an economic enhancement’.

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7:28am Tue 18 Mar 14

cosmick says...

TYPICAL.
TYPICAL. cosmick
  • Score: 7

7:28am Tue 18 Mar 14

Polyvista says...

'Bargain Brands' Shop.
It is a brilliant idea to market all the good food that because of strict rules cannot be sold in the normal way, and at a price that everyone can afford. I don't know where such slightly 'time expired' food normally goes, but it doesn't seem to find its way to those who really need it. Your enterprise should prosper and grow. The Council should appreciate and encourage your work, as does most of the Community suffering under the currently rising prices. This is the kind of recycling that really makes a difference to people.
'Bargain Brands' Shop. It is a brilliant idea to market all the good food that because of strict rules cannot be sold in the normal way, and at a price that everyone can afford. I don't know where such slightly 'time expired' food normally goes, but it doesn't seem to find its way to those who really need it. Your enterprise should prosper and grow. The Council should appreciate and encourage your work, as does most of the Community suffering under the currently rising prices. This is the kind of recycling that really makes a difference to people. Polyvista
  • Score: 55

9:16am Tue 18 Mar 14

gjas135 says...

selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area??????

many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy???????

clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"????? gjas135
  • Score: -41

10:05am Tue 18 Mar 14

Get a grip says...

gjas135 wrote:
selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area??????

many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy???????

clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Do you really believe this?
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Do you really believe this? Get a grip
  • Score: 20

10:59am Tue 18 Mar 14

elloello1980 says...

gjas135 wrote:
selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Having people come to the county because some of our people are so charitable, is a bad thing? thank cheesus you are a minority with your selfish way of thinking!

huge praise and support should go to these sorts of people.
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Having people come to the county because some of our people are so charitable, is a bad thing? thank cheesus you are a minority with your selfish way of thinking! huge praise and support should go to these sorts of people. elloello1980
  • Score: 17

11:20am Tue 18 Mar 14

mumsnuffkn says...

gjas135 wrote:
selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area??????

many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy???????

clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Can I just ask?.....are you struggling to cope on a very low income??? What a stupid load of codswallop!
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Can I just ask?.....are you struggling to cope on a very low income??? What a stupid load of codswallop! mumsnuffkn
  • Score: 11

12:08pm Tue 18 Mar 14

mumsnuffkn says...

I am so saddened and angered to hear that our ever wise council is proposing to close Colin's store. This shop means such a lot to those of us on very low incomes that are struggling to cope with the ever increasing food prices. It is the best thing that has happened for us in a very long time & we really appreciate all that Colin has done in helping the community through opening & running this store. He has a heart of gold & it would be shameful of the council to force him to close down. He is providing a genuine, much needed service to so many of us poorer residents who have to go without so much that the financially better off take for granted. I hope with all my heart that the council will find it in their hearts (if they have one) to leave Colin's store to carry on its good cause & making life that bit easier for so many of us. Colin would make an excellent councillor,, the community would benefit greatly from more like himself. Good on you Colin!
I am so saddened and angered to hear that our ever wise council is proposing to close Colin's store. This shop means such a lot to those of us on very low incomes that are struggling to cope with the ever increasing food prices. It is the best thing that has happened for us in a very long time & we really appreciate all that Colin has done in helping the community through opening & running this store. He has a heart of gold & it would be shameful of the council to force him to close down. He is providing a genuine, much needed service to so many of us poorer residents who have to go without so much that the financially better off take for granted. I hope with all my heart that the council will find it in their hearts (if they have one) to leave Colin's store to carry on its good cause & making life that bit easier for so many of us. Colin would make an excellent councillor,, the community would benefit greatly from more like himself. Good on you Colin! mumsnuffkn
  • Score: 23

1:09pm Tue 18 Mar 14

JamesYoung says...

One cannot help but notice the double standards here: WDDC moved council offices from Stratton House (with no value as retail premises) to Charles Street. In doing so they not only failed to create a single new job, they also prevented new retail stores from being built, which would have created jobs, ta revenues (PAYE, VAT, Corporation Tax) and business rate.
So it seems that it is ok for a wealth consumer such as a council to take prime retail space int he middle of a town centre, but it is not ok for a charity to occupy second rate premises in the middle of a rundown industrial estate. Shame on you!
One cannot help but notice the double standards here: WDDC moved council offices from Stratton House (with no value as retail premises) to Charles Street. In doing so they not only failed to create a single new job, they also prevented new retail stores from being built, which would have created jobs, ta revenues (PAYE, VAT, Corporation Tax) and business rate. So it seems that it is ok for a wealth consumer such as a council to take prime retail space int he middle of a town centre, but it is not ok for a charity to occupy second rate premises in the middle of a rundown industrial estate. Shame on you! JamesYoung
  • Score: 33

1:45pm Tue 18 Mar 14

jjlad2 says...

Mmm, one may think something else is beyond this decision, maybe big stores who pay big rates are not happy that others have taking the incentive to sell food at bargain, and i mean, bargain prices!.
Mmm, one may think something else is beyond this decision, maybe big stores who pay big rates are not happy that others have taking the incentive to sell food at bargain, and i mean, bargain prices!. jjlad2
  • Score: 15

2:16pm Tue 18 Mar 14

ViewPoyntz says...

Their business model wouldn't work if they had to pay rates for a town centre shop. I think the council is right in its decision however, as it would set a precedent for other shops to move to industrial estates and further deplete our town centres.
Their business model wouldn't work if they had to pay rates for a town centre shop. I think the council is right in its decision however, as it would set a precedent for other shops to move to industrial estates and further deplete our town centres. ViewPoyntz
  • Score: -20

2:32pm Tue 18 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

ViewPoyntz wrote:
Their business model wouldn't work if they had to pay rates for a town centre shop. I think the council is right in its decision however, as it would set a precedent for other shops to move to industrial estates and further deplete our town centres.
No disrespect ViewPoyntz, but I believe the basis of your comment is what is the problem with the current decision making by WDDC. The thing that appears to be missing is good old commonsence. Yes, you can have catch all rules and worry about setting a precedent but in doing so all you end up doing is punishing the community. The shop obviously serves the community and James is right in that there needs to be some flexibility and looked at on a case by case basis.
[quote][p][bold]ViewPoyntz[/bold] wrote: Their business model wouldn't work if they had to pay rates for a town centre shop. I think the council is right in its decision however, as it would set a precedent for other shops to move to industrial estates and further deplete our town centres.[/p][/quote]No disrespect ViewPoyntz, but I believe the basis of your comment is what is the problem with the current decision making by WDDC. The thing that appears to be missing is good old commonsence. Yes, you can have catch all rules and worry about setting a precedent but in doing so all you end up doing is punishing the community. The shop obviously serves the community and James is right in that there needs to be some flexibility and looked at on a case by case basis. woodsedge
  • Score: 3

2:52pm Tue 18 Mar 14

elloello1980 says...

ViewPoyntz wrote:
Their business model wouldn't work if they had to pay rates for a town centre shop. I think the council is right in its decision however, as it would set a precedent for other shops to move to industrial estates and further deplete our town centres.
and leaving 27 shops vacant is the way forward?

This is a community shop, not starbucks!
[quote][p][bold]ViewPoyntz[/bold] wrote: Their business model wouldn't work if they had to pay rates for a town centre shop. I think the council is right in its decision however, as it would set a precedent for other shops to move to industrial estates and further deplete our town centres.[/p][/quote]and leaving 27 shops vacant is the way forward? This is a community shop, not starbucks! elloello1980
  • Score: 15

3:02pm Tue 18 Mar 14

oldbrock says...

gjas135 wrote:
selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area??????

many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy???????

clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
what a nasty, spiteful, selfish, hideous SNOB you are and I don't even know you thank GOD if everybody had your views there would be no help for anybody, lets just hope you retain 100% health and manage to find employment OR employment that pays above the poverty line for the rest of your "life" Talk about compassionate society, that bus passed by your door without a passenger!
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]what a nasty, spiteful, selfish, hideous SNOB you are and I don't even know you thank GOD if everybody had your views there would be no help for anybody, lets just hope you retain 100% health and manage to find employment OR employment that pays above the poverty line for the rest of your "life" Talk about compassionate society, that bus passed by your door without a passenger! oldbrock
  • Score: 15

3:05pm Tue 18 Mar 14

gjas135 says...

why help the HOMELESS??????????

WEYMOUTH SEAFRONT IS OUR SO CALLED JEWEL IN THE CROWN.....SO WHY SHOULD WE REWARD THE HOMELESS WITH VERY CHEAP OR FREE FOODSTUFFS WHEN THEY DISREGARD AND ABUSE OUR SEAFRONTS WITH THEIR ....."UNSOCIABLE BEHAVIOUR"?????
why help the HOMELESS?????????? WEYMOUTH SEAFRONT IS OUR SO CALLED JEWEL IN THE CROWN.....SO WHY SHOULD WE REWARD THE HOMELESS WITH VERY CHEAP OR FREE FOODSTUFFS WHEN THEY DISREGARD AND ABUSE OUR SEAFRONTS WITH THEIR ....."UNSOCIABLE BEHAVIOUR"????? gjas135
  • Score: -13

3:23pm Tue 18 Mar 14

gjas135 says...

oldbrock wrote:
gjas135 wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
what a nasty, spiteful, selfish, hideous SNOB you are and I don't even know you thank GOD if everybody had your views there would be no help for anybody, lets just hope you retain 100% health and manage to find employment OR employment that pays above the poverty line for the rest of your "life" Talk about compassionate society, that bus passed by your door without a passenger!
your unwanted comments do not add any weight to the fact that EVEN THE GOVERNMENT ARE "CUTTING BACK" ON PEOPLE WANTING SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.............
..............

DON`T WHINGE TO ME BECAUSE EVEN THE GOVERNMENT ARE RIGHTLY CUTTING BACK THE BENEFITS OF PEOPLE THAT WANT SOMETHING FOR NOTHING????????
[quote][p][bold]oldbrock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]what a nasty, spiteful, selfish, hideous SNOB you are and I don't even know you thank GOD if everybody had your views there would be no help for anybody, lets just hope you retain 100% health and manage to find employment OR employment that pays above the poverty line for the rest of your "life" Talk about compassionate society, that bus passed by your door without a passenger![/p][/quote]your unwanted comments do not add any weight to the fact that EVEN THE GOVERNMENT ARE "CUTTING BACK" ON PEOPLE WANTING SOMETHING FOR NOTHING............. .............. DON`T WHINGE TO ME BECAUSE EVEN THE GOVERNMENT ARE RIGHTLY CUTTING BACK THE BENEFITS OF PEOPLE THAT WANT SOMETHING FOR NOTHING???????? gjas135
  • Score: -10

3:43pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Wolf Lady says...

gjas135 wrote:
selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area??????

many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy???????

clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Dear gjas135
I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop.
Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out!
there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown!
"There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live.
I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need. Wolf Lady
  • Score: 19

4:03pm Tue 18 Mar 14

gjas135 says...

Wolf Lady wrote:
gjas135 wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.
I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38
I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........
...."GET THE PICTURE"
I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE"
SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????
[quote][p][bold]Wolf Lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.[/p][/quote]I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38 I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........ ...."GET THE PICTURE" I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE" SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"???? gjas135
  • Score: -14

4:39pm Tue 18 Mar 14

woodsedge says...

gjas135 wrote:
Wolf Lady wrote:
gjas135 wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.
I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38
I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........

...."GET THE PICTURE"
I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE"
SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????
Calm down, WE GET THE PICTURE!
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wolf Lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.[/p][/quote]I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38 I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........ ...."GET THE PICTURE" I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE" SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????[/p][/quote]Calm down, WE GET THE PICTURE! woodsedge
  • Score: 12

5:05pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple.

I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons.
I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple. I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons. Rocksalt
  • Score: 17

5:08pm Tue 18 Mar 14

elloello1980 says...

gjas135 wrote:
Wolf Lady wrote:
gjas135 wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.
I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38 I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........ ...."GET THE PICTURE" I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE" SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????
What about the ex servicemen on the streets, that have struggled to get back into society after war?

What about the ones who start with nothing, and end up with less as the system is biased to making the rich, richer?

No one plans to be homeless.

Just because you had a bad start to your childhood (must have been hard to lose your dad at 7), does not mean people should simply starve to death on the streets in 2014.

It's usually the older generation shouting about how people cared 'back in the day. "you could leave your back door open". but here we have someone 50+ saying we should leave the homeless to starve, regardless of their situation.

I'm thankful and feel blessed to know that if i fall in hard times, I'm in a country where most want to help the needy.
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wolf Lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.[/p][/quote]I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38 I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........ ...."GET THE PICTURE" I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE" SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????[/p][/quote]What about the ex servicemen on the streets, that have struggled to get back into society after war? What about the ones who start with nothing, and end up with less as the system is biased to making the rich, richer? No one plans to be homeless. Just because you had a bad start to your childhood (must have been hard to lose your dad at 7), does not mean people should simply starve to death on the streets in 2014. It's usually the older generation shouting about how people cared 'back in the day. "you could leave your back door open". but here we have someone 50+ saying we should leave the homeless to starve, regardless of their situation. I'm thankful and feel blessed to know that if i fall in hard times, I'm in a country where most want to help the needy. elloello1980
  • Score: 14

5:10pm Tue 18 Mar 14

elloello1980 says...

Rocksalt wrote:
I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple. I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons.
basic rules are their to protect 'profit'

red-tape society
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple. I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons.[/p][/quote]basic rules are their to protect 'profit' red-tape society elloello1980
  • Score: -1

5:11pm Tue 18 Mar 14

elloello1980 says...

elloello1980 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote: I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple. I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons.
basic rules are their to protect 'profit' red-tape society
oops :/ *there
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple. I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons.[/p][/quote]basic rules are their to protect 'profit' red-tape society[/p][/quote]oops :/ *there elloello1980
  • Score: 1

5:12pm Tue 18 Mar 14

weymouthfox says...

So these people tried to avoid planning and setup a shop without planning permission. Now because they have homeless customers, they think they can circumvent the rules. Is it legal 2 sell out of date food?
So these people tried to avoid planning and setup a shop without planning permission. Now because they have homeless customers, they think they can circumvent the rules. Is it legal 2 sell out of date food? weymouthfox
  • Score: -6

5:29pm Tue 18 Mar 14

elloello1980 says...

weymouthfox wrote:
So these people tried to avoid planning and setup a shop without planning permission. Now because they have homeless customers, they think they can circumvent the rules. Is it legal 2 sell out of date food?
'best before', not 'sell by'
[quote][p][bold]weymouthfox[/bold] wrote: So these people tried to avoid planning and setup a shop without planning permission. Now because they have homeless customers, they think they can circumvent the rules. Is it legal 2 sell out of date food?[/p][/quote]'best before', not 'sell by' elloello1980
  • Score: 10

6:00pm Tue 18 Mar 14

macca18 says...

If the shop helps people from going hungry surely it is a good thing for the members of community who are struggling to make ends meet . Keep the good work up Colin and all the other helpers
If the shop helps people from going hungry surely it is a good thing for the members of community who are struggling to make ends meet . Keep the good work up Colin and all the other helpers macca18
  • Score: 14

6:18pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

elloello1980 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote: I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple. I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons.
basic rules are their to protect 'profit' red-tape society
oops :/ *there
And they are also there to control,, for example, lap dancing clubs opening into residential areas and all sorts of other things that many people might object to. One controversial decision doesn't necessarily undermine the whole principle.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple. I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons.[/p][/quote]basic rules are their to protect 'profit' red-tape society[/p][/quote]oops :/ *there[/p][/quote]And they are also there to control,, for example, lap dancing clubs opening into residential areas and all sorts of other things that many people might object to. One controversial decision doesn't necessarily undermine the whole principle. Rocksalt
  • Score: 0

6:18pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

elloello1980 wrote:
elloello1980 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote: I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple. I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons.
basic rules are their to protect 'profit' red-tape society
oops :/ *there
And they are also there to control,, for example, lap dancing clubs opening into residential areas and all sorts of other things that many people might object to. One controversial decision doesn't necessarily undermine the whole principle.
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: I don't doubt their motives, but they changed the use of the unit before applying for planning permission, which was a mistake, not least because it's a ruse often employed by people with less scruples than this couple. I hope they get sufficient support to help persuade the council to change their decision. But the basic rules are there for good reasons.[/p][/quote]basic rules are their to protect 'profit' red-tape society[/p][/quote]oops :/ *there[/p][/quote]And they are also there to control,, for example, lap dancing clubs opening into residential areas and all sorts of other things that many people might object to. One controversial decision doesn't necessarily undermine the whole principle. Rocksalt
  • Score: 0

7:38pm Tue 18 Mar 14

arlbergbahn says...

gjas135 wrote:
selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area??????

many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy???????

clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Anyone who uses that many question marks clearly speaks the truth.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Anyone who uses that many question marks clearly speaks the truth. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! arlbergbahn
  • Score: 5

7:40pm Tue 18 Mar 14

arlbergbahn says...

gjas135 wrote:
why help the HOMELESS??????????

WEYMOUTH SEAFRONT IS OUR SO CALLED JEWEL IN THE CROWN.....SO WHY SHOULD WE REWARD THE HOMELESS WITH VERY CHEAP OR FREE FOODSTUFFS WHEN THEY DISREGARD AND ABUSE OUR SEAFRONTS WITH THEIR ....."UNSOCIABL
E BEHAVIOUR"?????
And Capitals. Don't forget Capitals. Always the sign of a strong argument, Capitals.
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: why help the HOMELESS?????????? WEYMOUTH SEAFRONT IS OUR SO CALLED JEWEL IN THE CROWN.....SO WHY SHOULD WE REWARD THE HOMELESS WITH VERY CHEAP OR FREE FOODSTUFFS WHEN THEY DISREGARD AND ABUSE OUR SEAFRONTS WITH THEIR ....."UNSOCIABL E BEHAVIOUR"?????[/p][/quote]And Capitals. Don't forget Capitals. Always the sign of a strong argument, Capitals. arlbergbahn
  • Score: 11

10:00pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Liverpoolfan15 says...

I can't believe a church i.e. soul food can really support this Business that as clearly broken the rules. To make profit on selling food that Is can not be sold in shops. If you need help the weymouth food bank is set up so everyone in weymouth & Portland can eat and not go with out.
I can't believe a church i.e. soul food can really support this Business that as clearly broken the rules. To make profit on selling food that Is can not be sold in shops. If you need help the weymouth food bank is set up so everyone in weymouth & Portland can eat and not go with out. Liverpoolfan15
  • Score: -6

10:05pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Get a grip says...

Get a grip wrote:
gjas135 wrote:
selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area??????

many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy???????

clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Do you really believe this?
Is see from your posts that you do believe what you wrote.

How very sad.

I do hope that you will one day have some sympathy for those that need a little help
[quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Do you really believe this?[/p][/quote]Is see from your posts that you do believe what you wrote. How very sad. I do hope that you will one day have some sympathy for those that need a little help Get a grip
  • Score: 5

11:19am Wed 19 Mar 14

gjas135 says...

elloello1980 wrote:
gjas135 wrote:
Wolf Lady wrote:
gjas135 wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.
I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38 I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........ ...."GET THE PICTURE" I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE" SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????
What about the ex servicemen on the streets, that have struggled to get back into society after war? What about the ones who start with nothing, and end up with less as the system is biased to making the rich, richer? No one plans to be homeless. Just because you had a bad start to your childhood (must have been hard to lose your dad at 7), does not mean people should simply starve to death on the streets in 2014. It's usually the older generation shouting about how people cared 'back in the day. "you could leave your back door open". but here we have someone 50+ saying we should leave the homeless to starve, regardless of their situation. I'm thankful and feel blessed to know that if i fall in hard times, I'm in a country where most want to help the needy.
does not mean people should simply starve to death on the streets in 2014.

It's usually the older generation shouting about how people cared 'back in the day. "you could leave your back door open". but here we have someone 50+ saying we should leave the homeless to starve, regardless of their situation
you have misread and misunderstood the context ....................
.you are OVERREACTING about your comments about people starving to death...............
..very overdramatic and such a drama queen
if someone wishes to starve to death then that is their choice/destiny......
.the government do have funds in place to ensure that NOBODY would ever starve themselves to death...............
...so stop being an alarmist
[quote][p][bold]elloello1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wolf Lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.[/p][/quote]I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38 I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........ ...."GET THE PICTURE" I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE" SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????[/p][/quote]What about the ex servicemen on the streets, that have struggled to get back into society after war? What about the ones who start with nothing, and end up with less as the system is biased to making the rich, richer? No one plans to be homeless. Just because you had a bad start to your childhood (must have been hard to lose your dad at 7), does not mean people should simply starve to death on the streets in 2014. It's usually the older generation shouting about how people cared 'back in the day. "you could leave your back door open". but here we have someone 50+ saying we should leave the homeless to starve, regardless of their situation. I'm thankful and feel blessed to know that if i fall in hard times, I'm in a country where most want to help the needy.[/p][/quote]does not mean people should simply starve to death on the streets in 2014. It's usually the older generation shouting about how people cared 'back in the day. "you could leave your back door open". but here we have someone 50+ saying we should leave the homeless to starve, regardless of their situation you have misread and misunderstood the context .................... .you are OVERREACTING about your comments about people starving to death............... ..very overdramatic and such a drama queen if someone wishes to starve to death then that is their choice/destiny...... .the government do have funds in place to ensure that NOBODY would ever starve themselves to death............... ...so stop being an alarmist gjas135
  • Score: -1

12:00pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Dave Lovell says...

Having been homeless I can't thank them enough.
Having been homeless I can't thank them enough. Dave Lovell
  • Score: 8

12:41pm Wed 19 Mar 14

jjlad2 says...

gjas135 wrote:
Wolf Lady wrote:
gjas135 wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.
I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38 I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........ ...."GET THE PICTURE" I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE" SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????
I am trying to locate this picture, where is it?
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wolf Lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.[/p][/quote]I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38 I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........ ...."GET THE PICTURE" I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE" SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????[/p][/quote]I am trying to locate this picture, where is it? jjlad2
  • Score: 1

1:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

The story does not cover whether the food is actually considered non usable by supermarkets, but considering that the main supermarkets fly blackberries from Mexico and buy salad from countries near the equator I don't really think that trying to sell food in a more efficient way is really a problem.
It might be a problem if you are a jackass from the council that thinks its more important to enforce rules whilst you watch people from your local community in very real financial hardship.
If only we could force the council to kick the coop out of the site on the Granby and house them there, thus killing two birds with one stone...
The story does not cover whether the food is actually considered non usable by supermarkets, but considering that the main supermarkets fly blackberries from Mexico and buy salad from countries near the equator I don't really think that trying to sell food in a more efficient way is really a problem. It might be a problem if you are a jackass from the council that thinks its more important to enforce rules whilst you watch people from your local community in very real financial hardship. If only we could force the council to kick the coop out of the site on the Granby and house them there, thus killing two birds with one stone... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 2

2:15pm Wed 19 Mar 14

February1948 says...

JamesYoung wrote:
One cannot help but notice the double standards here: WDDC moved council offices from Stratton House (with no value as retail premises) to Charles Street. In doing so they not only failed to create a single new job, they also prevented new retail stores from being built, which would have created jobs, ta revenues (PAYE, VAT, Corporation Tax) and business rate. So it seems that it is ok for a wealth consumer such as a council to take prime retail space int he middle of a town centre, but it is not ok for a charity to occupy second rate premises in the middle of a rundown industrial estate. Shame on you!
I absolutely agree with you JamesYoung and would add that no-one ever knows whether they will end up needing a service like that provided by this store and instead of obstructing those running it, our local authority should be thankful that someone cares enough to go to all this trouble. It may well be in an area of employment, but whilst it is not "employing" anyone, let the store continue. When someone wants to use it to employ people, let the store continue in one of the other many boarded up premises that currently blight Weymouth's town centre. I live in the Dorchester area and am still fuming over the new council offices which we don't, and have never, needed and take great offence at £2M of our money being handed to Simons! Just think what that £2M could do for those in real need!
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: One cannot help but notice the double standards here: WDDC moved council offices from Stratton House (with no value as retail premises) to Charles Street. In doing so they not only failed to create a single new job, they also prevented new retail stores from being built, which would have created jobs, ta revenues (PAYE, VAT, Corporation Tax) and business rate. So it seems that it is ok for a wealth consumer such as a council to take prime retail space int he middle of a town centre, but it is not ok for a charity to occupy second rate premises in the middle of a rundown industrial estate. Shame on you![/p][/quote]I absolutely agree with you JamesYoung and would add that no-one ever knows whether they will end up needing a service like that provided by this store and instead of obstructing those running it, our local authority should be thankful that someone cares enough to go to all this trouble. It may well be in an area of employment, but whilst it is not "employing" anyone, let the store continue. When someone wants to use it to employ people, let the store continue in one of the other many boarded up premises that currently blight Weymouth's town centre. I live in the Dorchester area and am still fuming over the new council offices which we don't, and have never, needed and take great offence at £2M of our money being handed to Simons! Just think what that £2M could do for those in real need! February1948
  • Score: 6

2:30pm Wed 19 Mar 14

westbaywonder says...

gjas135 wrote:
selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area??????

many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy???????

clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
The low mentality in and around Weymouth lately ,(this post by gjas135 being the latest example ) is outstanding and quite worrying.

Remember citizens "They walk amongst us"
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]The low mentality in and around Weymouth lately ,(this post by gjas135 being the latest example ) is outstanding and quite worrying. Remember citizens "They walk amongst us" westbaywonder
  • Score: 4

7:50pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Rocket dog3 says...

It's so funny here they are trying to save a shop and 50% of you people commenting are only interested in **** bunch of bloody idiots should be ashamed of yourselves
It's so funny here they are trying to save a shop and 50% of you people commenting are only interested in **** bunch of bloody idiots should be ashamed of yourselves Rocket dog3
  • Score: -2

8:38pm Wed 19 Mar 14

JamesYoung says...

February1948 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
One cannot help but notice the double standards here: WDDC moved council offices from Stratton House (with no value as retail premises) to Charles Street. In doing so they not only failed to create a single new job, they also prevented new retail stores from being built, which would have created jobs, ta revenues (PAYE, VAT, Corporation Tax) and business rate. So it seems that it is ok for a wealth consumer such as a council to take prime retail space int he middle of a town centre, but it is not ok for a charity to occupy second rate premises in the middle of a rundown industrial estate. Shame on you!
I absolutely agree with you JamesYoung and would add that no-one ever knows whether they will end up needing a service like that provided by this store and instead of obstructing those running it, our local authority should be thankful that someone cares enough to go to all this trouble. It may well be in an area of employment, but whilst it is not "employing" anyone, let the store continue. When someone wants to use it to employ people, let the store continue in one of the other many boarded up premises that currently blight Weymouth's town centre. I live in the Dorchester area and am still fuming over the new council offices which we don't, and have never, needed and take great offence at £2M of our money being handed to Simons! Just think what that £2M could do for those in real need!
Exactly. Priorities are all wrong from the top to the bottom. The government (that i voted for, since i was 18) are stripping away the very fabric of society while lying through their teeth. Not only are people having rugs pulled from under them, but it seems bureaucracy is being used to prevent anybody else helping. One example: a couple of years ago the council changed the criteria for elderly people accessing day centres and then, claiming that centres were no longer in use, closed them. This kind of sleight of hand would not be out of place in 1930s Germany.
I heard a joke the other day. A banker, a benefit claimant and a working person are sat around a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with 15 biscuits. The banker takes all 15 biscuits, gives one to the benefit claimant and then says to the working person "look, the benefit claimant stole your biscuit". That's Britain today. Yes, there are benefit cheats and people who languish on benefits as a supposedly easy alternative, but then there is a government that colludes in diverting all our wealth to banks, pushing up house prices and creating a powerful disincentive to work. If i can use one example that Osborne has been crowing about today: help to buy. It's helping working families buy homes, apparently. You put down 5%, the government guarantees 20%, and the builder stumps up 5%. Result - 20+5-5 = 20%. An important percentage. Here's why: Basel III - a piece of legislation introduced by the EU to prevent banks taking risks. Put simply, if a bank wants to lend 20% it has to retain more capital in the coffers and will thus likely charge higher interest rates. A coincidence? Or is help to buy really a scheme to circumvent capital controls designed to protect us from reckless behaviour by banks, with young first time buyers the clueless sacrificial lamb.
[quote][p][bold]February1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: One cannot help but notice the double standards here: WDDC moved council offices from Stratton House (with no value as retail premises) to Charles Street. In doing so they not only failed to create a single new job, they also prevented new retail stores from being built, which would have created jobs, ta revenues (PAYE, VAT, Corporation Tax) and business rate. So it seems that it is ok for a wealth consumer such as a council to take prime retail space int he middle of a town centre, but it is not ok for a charity to occupy second rate premises in the middle of a rundown industrial estate. Shame on you![/p][/quote]I absolutely agree with you JamesYoung and would add that no-one ever knows whether they will end up needing a service like that provided by this store and instead of obstructing those running it, our local authority should be thankful that someone cares enough to go to all this trouble. It may well be in an area of employment, but whilst it is not "employing" anyone, let the store continue. When someone wants to use it to employ people, let the store continue in one of the other many boarded up premises that currently blight Weymouth's town centre. I live in the Dorchester area and am still fuming over the new council offices which we don't, and have never, needed and take great offence at £2M of our money being handed to Simons! Just think what that £2M could do for those in real need![/p][/quote]Exactly. Priorities are all wrong from the top to the bottom. The government (that i voted for, since i was 18) are stripping away the very fabric of society while lying through their teeth. Not only are people having rugs pulled from under them, but it seems bureaucracy is being used to prevent anybody else helping. One example: a couple of years ago the council changed the criteria for elderly people accessing day centres and then, claiming that centres were no longer in use, closed them. This kind of sleight of hand would not be out of place in 1930s Germany. I heard a joke the other day. A banker, a benefit claimant and a working person are sat around a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with 15 biscuits. The banker takes all 15 biscuits, gives one to the benefit claimant and then says to the working person "look, the benefit claimant stole your biscuit". That's Britain today. Yes, there are benefit cheats and people who languish on benefits as a supposedly easy alternative, but then there is a government that colludes in diverting all our wealth to banks, pushing up house prices and creating a powerful disincentive to work. If i can use one example that Osborne has been crowing about today: help to buy. It's helping working families buy homes, apparently. You put down 5%, the government guarantees 20%, and the builder stumps up 5%. Result - 20+5-5 = 20%. An important percentage. Here's why: Basel III - a piece of legislation introduced by the EU to prevent banks taking risks. Put simply, if a bank wants to lend 20% it has to retain more capital in the coffers and will thus likely charge higher interest rates. A coincidence? Or is help to buy really a scheme to circumvent capital controls designed to protect us from reckless behaviour by banks, with young first time buyers the clueless sacrificial lamb. JamesYoung
  • Score: 2

11:29pm Wed 19 Mar 14

ds1992 says...

How is it that people still think that helping those less well off is a judgement on those that try, or need it , a broad area to point abuse to ? I am in a
position that I financially and emotionally have to support my daughter and grand daughter as she has mental health issues and is supposed
to be helped by "society" yet this is an area that puts me financially at a need to reduce as many costs as possible - so does that mean I encourage the homeless and needy ? Maybe people need to realise that weymouth is one of two in the country of drug re habitations offered to people ?
How is it that people still think that helping those less well off is a judgement on those that try, or need it , a broad area to point abuse to ? I am in a position that I financially and emotionally have to support my daughter and grand daughter as she has mental health issues and is supposed to be helped by "society" yet this is an area that puts me financially at a need to reduce as many costs as possible - so does that mean I encourage the homeless and needy ? Maybe people need to realise that weymouth is one of two in the country of drug re habitations offered to people ? ds1992
  • Score: 4

11:43pm Wed 19 Mar 14

3rdAccount says...

I would love to visit and benefit from this shop but they close half day Saturday and I work all week and Saturday mornings.

If planning is approved please open all day Saturday (or even Sunday) so us hard working (low income) families can benefit along with the homeless and benefit scroungers........go
od luck!
I would love to visit and benefit from this shop but they close half day Saturday and I work all week and Saturday mornings. If planning is approved please open all day Saturday (or even Sunday) so us hard working (low income) families can benefit along with the homeless and benefit scroungers........go od luck! 3rdAccount
  • Score: 7

7:34am Thu 20 Mar 14

bigfatlad says...

3rdAccount wrote:
I would love to visit and benefit from this shop but they close half day Saturday and I work all week and Saturday mornings.

If planning is approved please open all day Saturday (or even Sunday) so us hard working (low income) families can benefit along with the homeless and benefit scroungers........go

od luck!
Personally I think anyone using the term "benefit scroungers" should not be allowed to use the shop. Low income? GET A BETTER PAID JOB THEN.

See? We can all play divide-and-rule... from what I know of this shop, it is an excellent idea and I sincerely hope it can be allowed to continue.
[quote][p][bold]3rdAccount[/bold] wrote: I would love to visit and benefit from this shop but they close half day Saturday and I work all week and Saturday mornings. If planning is approved please open all day Saturday (or even Sunday) so us hard working (low income) families can benefit along with the homeless and benefit scroungers........go od luck![/p][/quote]Personally I think anyone using the term "benefit scroungers" should not be allowed to use the shop. Low income? GET A BETTER PAID JOB THEN. See? We can all play divide-and-rule... from what I know of this shop, it is an excellent idea and I sincerely hope it can be allowed to continue. bigfatlad
  • Score: 2

9:30am Sun 23 Mar 14

ksmain says...

gjas135 wrote:
Wolf Lady wrote:
gjas135 wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????
Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.
I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38
I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........

...."GET THE PICTURE"
I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE"
SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????
My father died in 1969 at the age of 37 when I was 6 leaving my mother bringing up 2 kids on her own - and even I can't see the point you are making.

We visit this shop to cheapen our weekly shop as it does sell cook in sauces and other things - and both of us work full time on decent salaries. It does sell a fair amount of nutritional rubbish (crisps, fizzy drinks) and when you look at what some families buy you do worry about the state of their kids health.

That beside the point - my understanding is that the council have a problem as the building use terms are as a garage and not a retail unit. (which is what the current shop is). What I can't understand is what is the difference? Isn't a garage a retail unit as well? And there are other retail units on Lynch Lane as well - so what is the issue? And given the parlous state of the local shopping economy I would have thought the Council would welcome any sort of retail unit to the area. IMO JUST SHOWS THE CURRENT COUNCIL IS STAFFED AND COUNCELLED BY IDIOTS WHO HAVE REALLY NO IDEA!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wolf Lady[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gjas135[/bold] wrote: selling very cheap foodstuffs to the homeless will only encourage even more unwanted homeless people into the weymouth area?????? many people would want very cheap foodstuffs .....because it is free and easy??????? clearly this society is changing to a "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING SOCIETY"?????[/p][/quote]Dear gjas135 I think you need to read the report properly.... it says aids homeless, and the shop is not only for homeless or people on benefits. There are people who are single parents and working long hours who are on a reasonable wage, who don't have to be a burden on the free school meals budget, by shopping at Colin's shop. Your remarks about the homeless are offensive. they do not all spend their time indulging in addiction and causing trouble. A lot of them do NOT have an addiction and actually drink LESS than most of the 'respectable' community on a weekend night out! there are many and varied reasons for being homeless...... the most common one being ex service men and women leaving the forces and left on the street. The other most common reason is: relationship breakdown! "There but for the grace of God go I" is a useful adage to remember and I pray that your comfortable lifestyle in your well paid job and paid for home lasts for as long as you live. I wish you well even if you can not be compassionate for others in need.[/p][/quote]I AM NOT FROM A PRIVILEGE BACKGROUIND.......I WAS ONLY 7 YEARS WHEN MY DAD DIED..HE WAS ONLY 38 I WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 60`s NO CENTRAL HEATING ,ETC.....WE EVEN HAD TO PUT SOCKS WEDGED IN THE WINDOWS TO STOP THE COLD/DRAUGHT........ ...."GET THE PICTURE" I HAVE BEEN IN PSYCHIATRY A FEW TIMES MYSELF......"GET THE PICTURE" SO, I AM SAYING IT HOW IT IS.............."GET THE PICTURE"????[/p][/quote]My father died in 1969 at the age of 37 when I was 6 leaving my mother bringing up 2 kids on her own - and even I can't see the point you are making. We visit this shop to cheapen our weekly shop as it does sell cook in sauces and other things - and both of us work full time on decent salaries. It does sell a fair amount of nutritional rubbish (crisps, fizzy drinks) and when you look at what some families buy you do worry about the state of their kids health. That beside the point - my understanding is that the council have a problem as the building use terms are as a garage and not a retail unit. (which is what the current shop is). What I can't understand is what is the difference? Isn't a garage a retail unit as well? And there are other retail units on Lynch Lane as well - so what is the issue? And given the parlous state of the local shopping economy I would have thought the Council would welcome any sort of retail unit to the area. IMO JUST SHOWS THE CURRENT COUNCIL IS STAFFED AND COUNCELLED BY IDIOTS WHO HAVE REALLY NO IDEA!!!!!!! ksmain
  • Score: 2

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