Portlanders label town mayor nomination a 'complete farce' following precept revolt

DISPUTE: Portland Town Council offices

ROLE: Cllr Tim Munro

URGE: Andy Matthews

First published in News Dorset Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

ANGRY Portlanders have hit out in a dispute over the nomination of town mayor in the aftermath of a revolt caused by the 1,000 per cent precept proposal.

Councillors have met to nominate the Portland Town Mayor – and the results have been labelled as a ‘complete farce’ by residents.

Cllr Tim Munro was nominated with no contest for the role of mayor, with Rob Hughes becoming the official nominee for deputy over Richard Denton-White.

People have voiced criticisms against Cllr Munro filling the role after he ‘led the way’ with the proposed council tax precept increase.

The increase was scrapped last month following a backlash and a rise of 1.99 per cent was accepted.

While Cllr Munro accepts responsibility for putting the resolution forward, he said the whole council was ‘responsible’ for voting on it.

Meanwhile, Cllr Sandra Reynolds said she wanted nothing more to do with the council and is expected to resign, although this has yet to be done officially.

Cllr Munro said: “I take responsibility for putting the resolution forward concerning the council tax precept but it was voted for by all councillors.

“The whole council is responsible.”

Speaking about becoming mayor, he added: “The role of mayor will be hard work and the work of restructuring the council which began in November will continue as well as taking on services that were once under Dorset County Council or the borough council.”

Cllr Reynolds said: “Tim Munro knows that he is quite loathed on this island but he still went up for mayor. “I want nothing more to do with it.”

Portland resident Ken Leicester said the idea of Tim Munro being appointed as island mayor was a ‘complete and utter farce’.

He said: “This cannot be allowed. This man has not been popular since he led the way with the idea of 1,000 per cent council tax precept increase.

“The people called for a vote of no confidence in this council so this is a complete and utter farce.”

Beach clean-up organiser Storm Wallace said: “I think that decision has pretty much destroyed any hope the islanders had left for the council.

“The next election will certainly be very interesting.”

Resident John Thorner said: “The fact that Tim Munro is running for mayor just shows how Portland Town Council is.”

Town councillor Andy Matthews said he urged councillors not to nominate a mayor this year.

He said: “I would rather have seen a chairman instead of a mayor.

“It would have sent a message that the council is moving forward away from the council tax precept issue.”

Current mayor Les Ames will be replaced at the formal mayor making ceremony on May 21.

NO ONE has come forward to stand for election following the resignation last month of Cllr Rachel Barton.

The vacancy for Tophill West will now be filled by co-option, which means the town council will appoint someone.

Mrs Barton walked away from local politics ‘disillusioned’ and urged her fellow councillors to stand down.

Her resignation prompted a by-election and nominations were sought for candidates.

The deadline was March 14 but there was no interest shown.

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7:05am Fri 21 Mar 14

JamesYoung says...

You couldn't make it up.
You couldn't make it up. JamesYoung
  • Score: 12

7:40am Fri 21 Mar 14

arlbergbahn says...

Time for Revolution!
Freedom for Portland, comrades!
Actually, seriously, "“The role of mayor will be hard work "? really? Whatever does it actually involve?
Time for Revolution! Freedom for Portland, comrades! Actually, seriously, "“The role of mayor will be hard work "? really? Whatever does it actually involve? arlbergbahn
  • Score: 13

7:41am Fri 21 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Well all i can say is that most people on PORTLAND were up in arms just a couple of months ago, but no one with the backbone to stand up and be counted. PORTLAND you get out of this what you put in, and between all the ranting and raving you put in nothing.No wonder he is going to get the MAYORS role he stuck his fingers up to you and you did nothing.your weak and he knows it.
Well all i can say is that most people on PORTLAND were up in arms just a couple of months ago, but no one with the backbone to stand up and be counted. PORTLAND you get out of this what you put in, and between all the ranting and raving you put in nothing.No wonder he is going to get the MAYORS role he stuck his fingers up to you and you did nothing.your weak and he knows it. cosmick
  • Score: 14

7:56am Fri 21 Mar 14

jjlad2 says...

cosmick wrote:
Well all i can say is that most people on PORTLAND were up in arms just a couple of months ago, but no one with the backbone to stand up and be counted. PORTLAND you get out of this what you put in, and between all the ranting and raving you put in nothing.No wonder he is going to get the MAYORS role he stuck his fingers up to you and you did nothing.your weak and he knows it.
Totally agree with Cosmick, i kept reading all the post's over the precept rise, Portlanders up in arms........and they had success in getting it reduced, Portlanders knew Months ago Cllr Munro was up next for Mayor, this has nothing to do with reshaping Portland, for Cllr Munro this all about Title, PTC is dead and gone, they have little or no say on money matters, even by having a precept it will only encourage DCC to let them use that money first, like they say, paying twice.
Wake up and smell the roses Portlanders, you can shout all you like but its actions you need to change things, not posts.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: Well all i can say is that most people on PORTLAND were up in arms just a couple of months ago, but no one with the backbone to stand up and be counted. PORTLAND you get out of this what you put in, and between all the ranting and raving you put in nothing.No wonder he is going to get the MAYORS role he stuck his fingers up to you and you did nothing.your weak and he knows it.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with Cosmick, i kept reading all the post's over the precept rise, Portlanders up in arms........and they had success in getting it reduced, Portlanders knew Months ago Cllr Munro was up next for Mayor, this has nothing to do with reshaping Portland, for Cllr Munro this all about Title, PTC is dead and gone, they have little or no say on money matters, even by having a precept it will only encourage DCC to let them use that money first, like they say, paying twice. Wake up and smell the roses Portlanders, you can shout all you like but its actions you need to change things, not posts. jjlad2
  • Score: 13

9:38am Fri 21 Mar 14

Get a grip says...

NO ONE has come forward to stand for election following the resignation last month of Cllr Rachel Barton.

So why has no one stood for this position?
NO ONE has come forward to stand for election following the resignation last month of Cllr Rachel Barton. So why has no one stood for this position? Get a grip
  • Score: 1

10:00am Fri 21 Mar 14

Nomalice says...

It will be really interesting to see the minutes of the meeting. We will then know who it was that totally ignored the feelings of the people of Portland, and approved this appointment. Congratulations to Sandra Reynolds and Rachel Barton, for recognising that this group has had it's day. Anyone with an ounce of sense, will realise that, a PTC is useless, expensive and a laughing stock amongst the REAL elected Councils. Witness the Officers Field, The Unfettered Building without consideration of support services, The Driving Through of the unwanted Academy etc.,etc.. Can there be any clearer demonstration of how useless this,so called representative group are.
The thought of the Echo pictures of the Mayor opening the New Academy seem to be closer to reality.
It will be really interesting to see the minutes of the meeting. We will then know who it was that totally ignored the feelings of the people of Portland, and approved this appointment. Congratulations to Sandra Reynolds and Rachel Barton, for recognising that this group has had it's day. Anyone with an ounce of sense, will realise that, a PTC is useless, expensive and a laughing stock amongst the REAL elected Councils. Witness the Officers Field, The Unfettered Building without consideration of support services, The Driving Through of the unwanted Academy etc.,etc.. Can there be any clearer demonstration of how useless this,so called representative group are. The thought of the Echo pictures of the Mayor opening the New Academy seem to be closer to reality. Nomalice
  • Score: 11

10:15am Fri 21 Mar 14

Equilibrium says...

Agree withe the posts suggesting Portland has nit helped itself. At the end of the day there is a system in place and Munro was unopposed for the role. In my opinion mayors should be scrapped. No need for them ithese days, especially in this climate. It does seem like a 'job for the boys' but if that is the system in place then Portlanders need to stand up and do something about it. I cannot believe nobody with new ideas had the balls to stand up and be counted regarding the Rachel Barton post. All mouth, no action. Like somebody else said, you get what you put in.
Agree withe the posts suggesting Portland has nit helped itself. At the end of the day there is a system in place and Munro was unopposed for the role. In my opinion mayors should be scrapped. No need for them ithese days, especially in this climate. It does seem like a 'job for the boys' but if that is the system in place then Portlanders need to stand up and do something about it. I cannot believe nobody with new ideas had the balls to stand up and be counted regarding the Rachel Barton post. All mouth, no action. Like somebody else said, you get what you put in. Equilibrium
  • Score: 4

10:42am Fri 21 Mar 14

Sigurd Hoberth says...

This is such a joke you may as well elect attention seeker Storm, seeing as your quoting her ( God knows why) , then we can really dumb things down.
This is such a joke you may as well elect attention seeker Storm, seeing as your quoting her ( God knows why) , then we can really dumb things down. Sigurd Hoberth
  • Score: -9

10:53am Fri 21 Mar 14

captainsea says...

Nobody in their right mind would stand for Portland Town Council whilst the present incumbents are there.They clearly showed their colours over the precept debacle and have clearly chosen to reject the vote of no confidence passed at the public meeting last month.
Nobody in their right mind would stand for Portland Town Council whilst the present incumbents are there.They clearly showed their colours over the precept debacle and have clearly chosen to reject the vote of no confidence passed at the public meeting last month. captainsea
  • Score: 19

11:10am Fri 21 Mar 14

peskykat says...

Mayor's are so old fashioned - best to do what i do with the Weymouth one that attends any events that i go to ignore him. Complete waste of money !
Mayor's are so old fashioned - best to do what i do with the Weymouth one that attends any events that i go to ignore him. Complete waste of money ! peskykat
  • Score: 7

11:26am Fri 21 Mar 14

shy talk says...

“Town councillor Andy Matthews said he urged councillors not to nominate a mayor this year. He said: “I would rather have seen a chairman instead of a mayor”

Least someone is talking sense. Portland’s Mayor comes with allowance of £700. So Portlander’s are paying for two Mayors. There’s and Weymouth’s Mayor via council tax and precept.
“Town councillor Andy Matthews said he urged councillors not to nominate a mayor this year. He said: “I would rather have seen a chairman instead of a mayor” Least someone is talking sense. Portland’s Mayor comes with allowance of £700. So Portlander’s are paying for two Mayors. There’s and Weymouth’s Mayor via council tax and precept. shy talk
  • Score: 12

12:22pm Fri 21 Mar 14

BorisTheBold2 says...

No sympathy left with my fellow Portlanders who still live on fraggle rock.
You all stood together and talked the talk but no one stood up to walk the walk.

No wonder the current councillors are laughing.
They won't ever resign and keep getting elected/co-opted because no one will stand against them.
A close-nit family will always bring in their own if unopposed!!!
No sympathy left with my fellow Portlanders who still live on fraggle rock. You all stood together and talked the talk but no one stood up to walk the walk. No wonder the current councillors are laughing. They won't ever resign and keep getting elected/co-opted because no one will stand against them. A close-nit family will always bring in their own if unopposed!!! BorisTheBold2
  • Score: 1

1:08pm Fri 21 Mar 14

1Kimberlin says...

WOW I never knew there was so many Know -it-alls around ? Firstly let me inform you that the post of Town Mayor is done by way of seniority hence why Munro was nominated, even if s person had been elected in place of Rachel Barton it would not have made any difference in the vote. you have what is know locally as 'The Munro Party' his sister his Daughter who by the way never showed her face at a council meeting until Daddy wanted her vote, the same goes for his son-in-law then you have his loyal followers Denton-White & Rodney Wild a man who quote said " I don't want Munro as Mayor but I will Vote for Him if needed", so there you have 5 votes for him There was one absentee and Two Cowards who abstained so as the say there was not a snowballs chance in hell of stopping this. Rest assured that Munro will not be supported in anything he does this year and protests will be held at all the events he attends, 'The Spirit of Portland Party' intends to write to every Parish Council in Dorset and inform them that Munro if invited to their events DOES NOT REPRESENT the Majority of Portland Residents. Rest assured there are moves being made to ready the Isle for the elections next may when the Residents of Portland will show their disliking of Those six cllrs by replacing them. Now below is a letter received by a member of The Spirit of Portland Party from a Resident who was willing and able and had the necessary backing to replace Rachel Barton...... Make of this what you will

Reading the latest comments on the vacant seat on the Portland Town Council.It might be a good idea to see who wants to put themselves forward. I would dearly love to sit on the Town Council but would much prefer to be voted in rather than co-option. But saying that I did call into the council office BEFORE the closing date to pick up the appropriate forms and was told that the vacant seat was NOT going to be taken by co-option there would be a by-election and this would be run alongside the Borough Council elections which I am also going to stand for. I hope the clerk has not misinformed me. After all I have been questioning his ability.
It's ok to be a 'Keyboard Warrior but for Pete sake get your facts right first
WOW I never knew there was so many Know -it-alls around ? Firstly let me inform you that the post of Town Mayor is done by way of seniority hence why Munro was nominated, even if s person had been elected in place of Rachel Barton it would not have made any difference in the vote. you have what is know locally as 'The Munro Party' his sister his Daughter who by the way never showed her face at a council meeting until Daddy wanted her vote, the same goes for his son-in-law then you have his loyal followers Denton-White & Rodney Wild a man who quote said " I don't want Munro as Mayor but I will Vote for Him if needed", so there you have 5 votes for him There was one absentee and Two Cowards who abstained so as the say there was not a snowballs chance in hell of stopping this. Rest assured that Munro will not be supported in anything he does this year and protests will be held at all the events he attends, 'The Spirit of Portland Party' intends to write to every Parish Council in Dorset and inform them that Munro if invited to their events DOES NOT REPRESENT the Majority of Portland Residents. Rest assured there are moves being made to ready the Isle for the elections next may when the Residents of Portland will show their disliking of Those six cllrs by replacing them. Now below is a letter received by a member of The Spirit of Portland Party from a Resident who was willing and able and had the necessary backing to replace Rachel Barton...... Make of this what you will Reading the latest comments on the vacant seat on the Portland Town Council.It might be a good idea to see who wants to put themselves forward. I would dearly love to sit on the Town Council but would much prefer to be voted in rather than co-option. But saying that I did call into the council office BEFORE the closing date to pick up the appropriate forms and was told that the vacant seat was NOT going to be taken by co-option there would be a by-election and this would be run alongside the Borough Council elections which I am also going to stand for. I hope the clerk has not misinformed me. After all I have been questioning his ability. It's ok to be a 'Keyboard Warrior but for Pete sake get your facts right first 1Kimberlin
  • Score: 30

1:33pm Fri 21 Mar 14

craigbastow1@outlook.com says...

but will taxi fares still be on the increase thorny ?????
but will taxi fares still be on the increase thorny ????? craigbastow1@outlook.com
  • Score: -9

1:45pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

It will be interesting to see what ideas or proposals any Spirit of Portland have if and when they stand for election. For sure, the current councillors have little to recommend them, but we any aspiring councillors need to have some proactive ideas. Up to know, they seem to be defined by being in opposition to things. I will be interested to see their plans for Portland's future, not just a list of things they don't like.

Oh., and Councillor Reynolds, if you want to go resign just get on and do it. How long does it take ?
It will be interesting to see what ideas or proposals any Spirit of Portland have if and when they stand for election. For sure, the current councillors have little to recommend them, but we any aspiring councillors need to have some proactive ideas. Up to know, they seem to be defined by being in opposition to things. I will be interested to see their plans for Portland's future, not just a list of things they don't like. Oh., and Councillor Reynolds, if you want to go resign just get on and do it. How long does it take ? Rocksalt
  • Score: -2

2:17pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Foursite says...

Below follows an email exchange between a local residend Dave Owen and councillor Richard Denton White.Mr Owen complained that RDW had called those residents who used the term "Royal Manor" for Portland as being pompous at the meeting on 19th March. Mr Owen' response follows.

David -I've held my views that Britain needs to throw off its feudalistic traditions and privileges and develop into a modern pluralistic democracy all my life, with a conviction developed through direct work experience as a shop steward on the shop floor in Bristol,leading students in Exeter during the Seventies, caring for under privileged people in London, fighting the palm oil plant here in Portland and political activism throughout Britain and mainland Europe. I really don't need you lecturing me on my political views. There are high profile people on the right of British and Dorset politics whose views I find equally offensive as you apparently find mine.......Britain and this island need profound changes.
You may not be aware that one of my councillor colleagues was threatened with anonymous phone calls during the most heated period of the precept debate. These calls had very nasty 'little islander/ little Englander' undertones....Undert
ones which need challenging head on.....
Even if we had raised the precept to the levels proposed originally, Portland council tax payers would still have been paying less than citizens in Bridport, Dorchester and Blandford......we have the lowest town council precept in Britain !! A 1000 % of nothing is very little indeed ! This current financial year the precept for band D represented about the cost of 4 and a half pints of real ale !!! If people want good local services, like the island caretaker, it's perfectly fair to ask them to pay a little more.......provided they can afford to pay of course.
I've already apologized for my hostile reaction to a local man physically threatening me with a cut throat gesture very publicly on local radio and in the Dorset Echo and for swearing at a man in the church after the meeting....which I admit wasn't appropriate,( I also repeated that in my speech last night) but I don't subscribe to the view that using Anglo Saxon language was even more inappropriate in a church than anywhere else.....?!
People are more than capable of moving on whether they live in Portland or anywhere else on the planet ....! I have accordingly done exactly that since the January meeting. I hope you can too.

What I do know is that I have no more time for 'little islanders' living in a time warp, than I have for 'little Englanders' who want to hurl Britain out of Europe with the loss of 4 million jobs . I'm ok bye the way about being in a minority ......majorities are not always right.....and I don't subscribe to mob rule viz that very contentious meeting back in January .......Bye the way are you seriously promoting a sort of Portland apartheid, with tests for kimberlins with forthright views David ?! (I've worked hard for Portland during my years on PTC and am proud of my contribution - whether it's been appreciated locally is another matter of course.....)

I try to do the right thing for the long term future of this community, rather than work out the most 'popular' line to take.......Political parties and politicians used to set out a vision and show leadership on issues, rather than slavishly follow knee jerk facebook campaigns - as in the recent outcry over the Portland precept, shamelessly exploited by some local candidates with May's elections in mind. I have contempt for all 'popularists'......
As Mr. McInroe once said you cannot be serious David - extreme parochialism isn't at all healthy for any community ??!!!
Richard Denton- White

And I suppose in our heart of hearts we all belong to Russia?
I will answer you question with the answer NO.I have supported the chairman Les Ames for a long time.
Who if you know your Portland history he is indeed a Kimberlin who has great respect from many Islanders.Unlike yourself.
Goodbye
Below follows an email exchange between a local residend Dave Owen and councillor Richard Denton White.Mr Owen complained that RDW had called those residents who used the term "Royal Manor" for Portland as being pompous at the meeting on 19th March. Mr Owen' response follows. David -I've held my views that Britain needs to throw off its feudalistic traditions and privileges and develop into a modern pluralistic democracy all my life, with a conviction developed through direct work experience as a shop steward on the shop floor in Bristol,leading students in Exeter during the Seventies, caring for under privileged people in London, fighting the palm oil plant here in Portland and political activism throughout Britain and mainland Europe. I really don't need you lecturing me on my political views. There are high profile people on the right of British and Dorset politics whose views I find equally offensive as you apparently find mine.......Britain and this island need profound changes. You may not be aware that one of my councillor colleagues was threatened with anonymous phone calls during the most heated period of the precept debate. These calls had very nasty 'little islander/ little Englander' undertones....Undert ones which need challenging head on..... Even if we had raised the precept to the levels proposed originally, Portland council tax payers would still have been paying less than citizens in Bridport, Dorchester and Blandford......we have the lowest town council precept in Britain !! A 1000 % of nothing is very little indeed ! This current financial year the precept for band D represented about the cost of 4 and a half pints of real ale !!! If people want good local services, like the island caretaker, it's perfectly fair to ask them to pay a little more.......provided they can afford to pay of course. I've already apologized for my hostile reaction to a local man physically threatening me with a cut throat gesture very publicly on local radio and in the Dorset Echo and for swearing at a man in the church after the meeting....which I admit wasn't appropriate,( I also repeated that in my speech last night) but I don't subscribe to the view that using Anglo Saxon language was even more inappropriate in a church than anywhere else.....?! People are more than capable of moving on whether they live in Portland or anywhere else on the planet ....! I have accordingly done exactly that since the January meeting. I hope you can too. What I do know is that I have no more time for 'little islanders' living in a time warp, than I have for 'little Englanders' who want to hurl Britain out of Europe with the loss of 4 million jobs . I'm ok bye the way about being in a minority ......majorities are not always right.....and I don't subscribe to mob rule viz that very contentious meeting back in January .......Bye the way are you seriously promoting a sort of Portland apartheid, with tests for kimberlins with forthright views David ?! (I've worked hard for Portland during my years on PTC and am proud of my contribution - whether it's been appreciated locally is another matter of course.....) I try to do the right thing for the long term future of this community, rather than work out the most 'popular' line to take.......Political parties and politicians used to set out a vision and show leadership on issues, rather than slavishly follow knee jerk facebook campaigns - as in the recent outcry over the Portland precept, shamelessly exploited by some local candidates with May's elections in mind. I have contempt for all 'popularists'...... As Mr. McInroe once said you cannot be serious David - extreme parochialism isn't at all healthy for any community ??!!! Richard Denton- White And I suppose in our heart of hearts we all belong to Russia? I will answer you question with the answer NO.I have supported the chairman Les Ames for a long time. Who if you know your Portland history he is indeed a Kimberlin who has great respect from many Islanders.Unlike yourself. Goodbye Foursite
  • Score: 34

3:18pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Tillydog says...

Blimey Foursite, not surprised he is advocating a press officer .he seems to get about a bit though.Probably kicked out of every town he takes on.
Dave Owen for Mayor I rekon.
Dog bless Portland and its people, but not RDW loonytune.X
Blimey Foursite, not surprised he is advocating a press officer .he seems to get about a bit though.Probably kicked out of every town he takes on. Dave Owen for Mayor I rekon. Dog bless Portland and its people, but not RDW loonytune.X Tillydog
  • Score: 34

4:46pm Fri 21 Mar 14

cosmick says...

Foursite wrote:
Below follows an email exchange between a local residend Dave Owen and councillor Richard Denton White.Mr Owen complained that RDW had called those residents who used the term "Royal Manor" for Portland as being pompous at the meeting on 19th March. Mr Owen' response follows.

David -I've held my views that Britain needs to throw off its feudalistic traditions and privileges and develop into a modern pluralistic democracy all my life, with a conviction developed through direct work experience as a shop steward on the shop floor in Bristol,leading students in Exeter during the Seventies, caring for under privileged people in London, fighting the palm oil plant here in Portland and political activism throughout Britain and mainland Europe. I really don't need you lecturing me on my political views. There are high profile people on the right of British and Dorset politics whose views I find equally offensive as you apparently find mine.......Britain and this island need profound changes.
You may not be aware that one of my councillor colleagues was threatened with anonymous phone calls during the most heated period of the precept debate. These calls had very nasty 'little islander/ little Englander' undertones....Undert

ones which need challenging head on.....
Even if we had raised the precept to the levels proposed originally, Portland council tax payers would still have been paying less than citizens in Bridport, Dorchester and Blandford......we have the lowest town council precept in Britain !! A 1000 % of nothing is very little indeed ! This current financial year the precept for band D represented about the cost of 4 and a half pints of real ale !!! If people want good local services, like the island caretaker, it's perfectly fair to ask them to pay a little more.......provided they can afford to pay of course.
I've already apologized for my hostile reaction to a local man physically threatening me with a cut throat gesture very publicly on local radio and in the Dorset Echo and for swearing at a man in the church after the meeting....which I admit wasn't appropriate,( I also repeated that in my speech last night) but I don't subscribe to the view that using Anglo Saxon language was even more inappropriate in a church than anywhere else.....?!
People are more than capable of moving on whether they live in Portland or anywhere else on the planet ....! I have accordingly done exactly that since the January meeting. I hope you can too.

What I do know is that I have no more time for 'little islanders' living in a time warp, than I have for 'little Englanders' who want to hurl Britain out of Europe with the loss of 4 million jobs . I'm ok bye the way about being in a minority ......majorities are not always right.....and I don't subscribe to mob rule viz that very contentious meeting back in January .......Bye the way are you seriously promoting a sort of Portland apartheid, with tests for kimberlins with forthright views David ?! (I've worked hard for Portland during my years on PTC and am proud of my contribution - whether it's been appreciated locally is another matter of course.....)

I try to do the right thing for the long term future of this community, rather than work out the most 'popular' line to take.......Political parties and politicians used to set out a vision and show leadership on issues, rather than slavishly follow knee jerk facebook campaigns - as in the recent outcry over the Portland precept, shamelessly exploited by some local candidates with May's elections in mind. I have contempt for all 'popularists'......
As Mr. McInroe once said you cannot be serious David - extreme parochialism isn't at all healthy for any community ??!!!
Richard Denton- White

And I suppose in our heart of hearts we all belong to Russia?
I will answer you question with the answer NO.I have supported the chairman Les Ames for a long time.
Who if you know your Portland history he is indeed a Kimberlin who has great respect from many Islanders.Unlike yourself.
Goodbye
Please tell me the 4 million jobs that will go WHEN we get ouit of the E/U.
[quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: Below follows an email exchange between a local residend Dave Owen and councillor Richard Denton White.Mr Owen complained that RDW had called those residents who used the term "Royal Manor" for Portland as being pompous at the meeting on 19th March. Mr Owen' response follows. David -I've held my views that Britain needs to throw off its feudalistic traditions and privileges and develop into a modern pluralistic democracy all my life, with a conviction developed through direct work experience as a shop steward on the shop floor in Bristol,leading students in Exeter during the Seventies, caring for under privileged people in London, fighting the palm oil plant here in Portland and political activism throughout Britain and mainland Europe. I really don't need you lecturing me on my political views. There are high profile people on the right of British and Dorset politics whose views I find equally offensive as you apparently find mine.......Britain and this island need profound changes. You may not be aware that one of my councillor colleagues was threatened with anonymous phone calls during the most heated period of the precept debate. These calls had very nasty 'little islander/ little Englander' undertones....Undert ones which need challenging head on..... Even if we had raised the precept to the levels proposed originally, Portland council tax payers would still have been paying less than citizens in Bridport, Dorchester and Blandford......we have the lowest town council precept in Britain !! A 1000 % of nothing is very little indeed ! This current financial year the precept for band D represented about the cost of 4 and a half pints of real ale !!! If people want good local services, like the island caretaker, it's perfectly fair to ask them to pay a little more.......provided they can afford to pay of course. I've already apologized for my hostile reaction to a local man physically threatening me with a cut throat gesture very publicly on local radio and in the Dorset Echo and for swearing at a man in the church after the meeting....which I admit wasn't appropriate,( I also repeated that in my speech last night) but I don't subscribe to the view that using Anglo Saxon language was even more inappropriate in a church than anywhere else.....?! People are more than capable of moving on whether they live in Portland or anywhere else on the planet ....! I have accordingly done exactly that since the January meeting. I hope you can too. What I do know is that I have no more time for 'little islanders' living in a time warp, than I have for 'little Englanders' who want to hurl Britain out of Europe with the loss of 4 million jobs . I'm ok bye the way about being in a minority ......majorities are not always right.....and I don't subscribe to mob rule viz that very contentious meeting back in January .......Bye the way are you seriously promoting a sort of Portland apartheid, with tests for kimberlins with forthright views David ?! (I've worked hard for Portland during my years on PTC and am proud of my contribution - whether it's been appreciated locally is another matter of course.....) I try to do the right thing for the long term future of this community, rather than work out the most 'popular' line to take.......Political parties and politicians used to set out a vision and show leadership on issues, rather than slavishly follow knee jerk facebook campaigns - as in the recent outcry over the Portland precept, shamelessly exploited by some local candidates with May's elections in mind. I have contempt for all 'popularists'...... As Mr. McInroe once said you cannot be serious David - extreme parochialism isn't at all healthy for any community ??!!! Richard Denton- White And I suppose in our heart of hearts we all belong to Russia? I will answer you question with the answer NO.I have supported the chairman Les Ames for a long time. Who if you know your Portland history he is indeed a Kimberlin who has great respect from many Islanders.Unlike yourself. Goodbye[/p][/quote]Please tell me the 4 million jobs that will go WHEN we get ouit of the E/U. cosmick
  • Score: 21

5:17pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Newground says...

Tim Munro -- the 'Mare of Portland.

The title has a ring to it.
Tim Munro -- the 'Mare of Portland. The title has a ring to it. Newground
  • Score: 3

5:45pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

Ken Leicester is a Portland resident and doubtless has his own views. Nevertheless, I think that the Echo might have mentioned that his wife is a WPBC councillor. Unless there are two Ken Leicesters, in which case I apologise for making an erroneous connection.
Ken Leicester is a Portland resident and doubtless has his own views. Nevertheless, I think that the Echo might have mentioned that his wife is a WPBC councillor. Unless there are two Ken Leicesters, in which case I apologise for making an erroneous connection. Rocksalt
  • Score: 4

6:19pm Fri 21 Mar 14

1Kimberlin says...

Rocksalt wrote:
It will be interesting to see what ideas or proposals any Spirit of Portland have if and when they stand for election. For sure, the current councillors have little to recommend them, but we any aspiring councillors need to have some proactive ideas. Up to know, they seem to be defined by being in opposition to things. I will be interested to see their plans for Portland's future, not just a list of things they don't like.

Oh., and Councillor Reynolds, if you want to go resign just get on and do it. How long does it take ?
Come along to the meeting on April 17th at the St Johns Ambulance Hall in Easton Lane commencing at 7pm and find out for yourself If you live on the Isle & ROYAL MANOR of Portland you'll be more than welcome. Sorry if that sounds pompous,
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see what ideas or proposals any Spirit of Portland have if and when they stand for election. For sure, the current councillors have little to recommend them, but we any aspiring councillors need to have some proactive ideas. Up to know, they seem to be defined by being in opposition to things. I will be interested to see their plans for Portland's future, not just a list of things they don't like. Oh., and Councillor Reynolds, if you want to go resign just get on and do it. How long does it take ?[/p][/quote]Come along to the meeting on April 17th at the St Johns Ambulance Hall in Easton Lane commencing at 7pm and find out for yourself If you live on the Isle & ROYAL MANOR of Portland you'll be more than welcome. Sorry if that sounds pompous, 1Kimberlin
  • Score: 33

6:36pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Get a grip says...

After this no one can take either the PTC or the residents seriously.
After this no one can take either the PTC or the residents seriously. Get a grip
  • Score: -2

6:45pm Fri 21 Mar 14

oldbrock says...

Sigurd Hoberth wrote:
This is such a joke you may as well elect attention seeker Storm, seeing as your quoting her ( God knows why) , then we can really dumb things down.
nasty, spiteful, bitchy remark, sounds like a BOSTONIAN, expected better of PORTLAND/WEYMOUTH resident???? there are only TWO reasons for it, Jealousy of that individual or Fear of that individual. Why are we so intent on pillorying anybody who pokes their head above the parapet but shows reluctance to do so themselves??
[quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoberth[/bold] wrote: This is such a joke you may as well elect attention seeker Storm, seeing as your quoting her ( God knows why) , then we can really dumb things down.[/p][/quote]nasty, spiteful, bitchy remark, sounds like a BOSTONIAN, expected better of PORTLAND/WEYMOUTH resident???? there are only TWO reasons for it, Jealousy of that individual or Fear of that individual. Why are we so intent on pillorying anybody who pokes their head above the parapet but shows reluctance to do so themselves?? oldbrock
  • Score: 17

6:51pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

1Kimberlin wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
It will be interesting to see what ideas or proposals any Spirit of Portland have if and when they stand for election. For sure, the current councillors have little to recommend them, but we any aspiring councillors need to have some proactive ideas. Up to know, they seem to be defined by being in opposition to things. I will be interested to see their plans for Portland's future, not just a list of things they don't like.

Oh., and Councillor Reynolds, if you want to go resign just get on and do it. How long does it take ?
Come along to the meeting on April 17th at the St Johns Ambulance Hall in Easton Lane commencing at 7pm and find out for yourself If you live on the Isle & ROYAL MANOR of Portland you'll be more than welcome. Sorry if that sounds pompous,
No, not pompous. Thank you for the info.
[quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see what ideas or proposals any Spirit of Portland have if and when they stand for election. For sure, the current councillors have little to recommend them, but we any aspiring councillors need to have some proactive ideas. Up to know, they seem to be defined by being in opposition to things. I will be interested to see their plans for Portland's future, not just a list of things they don't like. Oh., and Councillor Reynolds, if you want to go resign just get on and do it. How long does it take ?[/p][/quote]Come along to the meeting on April 17th at the St Johns Ambulance Hall in Easton Lane commencing at 7pm and find out for yourself If you live on the Isle & ROYAL MANOR of Portland you'll be more than welcome. Sorry if that sounds pompous,[/p][/quote]No, not pompous. Thank you for the info. Rocksalt
  • Score: 28

7:22pm Fri 21 Mar 14

ksmain says...

It will be interesting to see whether the huge number of moaning Portland residents who were whinging about those that THEY elected when the precept row was going on, now put their money where their mouths are. It is alright to moan about these people but then you find the 'professional moaners' disappear the minute you mention about them 'getting involved'.

Any Mayoral title is a pretty useless figurehead position anyway - you know appear at functions, plant the odd tree, etc. I personally have no idea who the Weymouth mayor is - and neither am I interested.
It will be interesting to see whether the huge number of moaning Portland residents who were whinging about those that THEY elected when the precept row was going on, now put their money where their mouths are. It is alright to moan about these people but then you find the 'professional moaners' disappear the minute you mention about them 'getting involved'. Any Mayoral title is a pretty useless figurehead position anyway - you know appear at functions, plant the odd tree, etc. I personally have no idea who the Weymouth mayor is - and neither am I interested. ksmain
  • Score: 3

9:48pm Fri 21 Mar 14

radiator says...

So Munro has got the mayors job, that was what he wanted all along but there is one thing that doesnt come with the job and thats being a gentleman like Les.
So Munro has got the mayors job, that was what he wanted all along but there is one thing that doesnt come with the job and thats being a gentleman like Les. radiator
  • Score: 9

10:37pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Foursite says...

This was the reply recieved in a response to Mr Owen's email.
.
You clearly subscribe to those ' conservative forces' who have kept Britain and the island in the 'Ark' into the 21st Century - I don't ! Quite the reverse ......Wanting to change things doesn't make me unpatriotic,or mean I don't acknowledge Island history or respect the people who live here or that I think we're part of Russia !! It means that we have diametrically irreconcilable perspectives on the future for the island and this country David. That's all.
We both have the right to publicly express those opposing views. Enough said.
Richard

Mr Owen told me that they tried to impose a 1000% precept rise with out going to the people, this was I thought like a regime more akin to old time Russia,They got away with the 100% last year and got greedy and it backfired.Mr Munro's year as Mayor I cant see as being a happy one without the vast amount of money going in the coffers as he would have liked.
On the evidence I have seen. I tend to agree.
This was the reply recieved in a response to Mr Owen's email. . You clearly subscribe to those ' conservative forces' who have kept Britain and the island in the 'Ark' into the 21st Century - I don't ! Quite the reverse ......Wanting to change things doesn't make me unpatriotic,or mean I don't acknowledge Island history or respect the people who live here or that I think we're part of Russia !! It means that we have diametrically irreconcilable perspectives on the future for the island and this country David. That's all. We both have the right to publicly express those opposing views. Enough said. Richard Mr Owen told me that they tried to impose a 1000% precept rise with out going to the people, this was I thought like a regime more akin to old time Russia,They got away with the 100% last year and got greedy and it backfired.Mr Munro's year as Mayor I cant see as being a happy one without the vast amount of money going in the coffers as he would have liked. On the evidence I have seen. I tend to agree. Foursite
  • Score: 25

11:08pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Tillydog says...

Oh Foursite, I do hope so,Dog bless you and Dog bless Portland and its people.X Oh apart from ....you know who :-)
Oh Foursite, I do hope so,Dog bless you and Dog bless Portland and its people.X Oh apart from ....you know who :-) Tillydog
  • Score: 22

11:14pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Tillydog says...

Oh Foursite I do hope so. Dog bless you and Dog bless Portland and its people. .X ...apart from.... you know who :-)
Oh Foursite I do hope so. Dog bless you and Dog bless Portland and its people. .X ...apart from.... you know who :-) Tillydog
  • Score: 20

10:15am Sat 22 Mar 14

Ray Nowak says...

1Kimberlin wrote:
WOW I never knew there was so many Know -it-alls around ? Firstly let me inform you that the post of Town Mayor is done by way of seniority hence why Munro was nominated, even if s person had been elected in place of Rachel Barton it would not have made any difference in the vote. you have what is know locally as 'The Munro Party' his sister his Daughter who by the way never showed her face at a council meeting until Daddy wanted her vote, the same goes for his son-in-law then you have his loyal followers Denton-White & Rodney Wild a man who quote said " I don't want Munro as Mayor but I will Vote for Him if needed", so there you have 5 votes for him There was one absentee and Two Cowards who abstained so as the say there was not a snowballs chance in hell of stopping this. Rest assured that Munro will not be supported in anything he does this year and protests will be held at all the events he attends, 'The Spirit of Portland Party' intends to write to every Parish Council in Dorset and inform them that Munro if invited to their events DOES NOT REPRESENT the Majority of Portland Residents. Rest assured there are moves being made to ready the Isle for the elections next may when the Residents of Portland will show their disliking of Those six cllrs by replacing them. Now below is a letter received by a member of The Spirit of Portland Party from a Resident who was willing and able and had the necessary backing to replace Rachel Barton...... Make of this what you will

Reading the latest comments on the vacant seat on the Portland Town Council.It might be a good idea to see who wants to put themselves forward. I would dearly love to sit on the Town Council but would much prefer to be voted in rather than co-option. But saying that I did call into the council office BEFORE the closing date to pick up the appropriate forms and was told that the vacant seat was NOT going to be taken by co-option there would be a by-election and this would be run alongside the Borough Council elections which I am also going to stand for. I hope the clerk has not misinformed me. After all I have been questioning his ability.
It's ok to be a 'Keyboard Warrior but for Pete sake get your facts right first
The convention is that the Cllr that has the longest service is offered to be Mayor . Of course conventions can be challenged as was proven when a majority voted for Rob Hughes rather than Richard Denton White as Deputy Mayor.
I abstained for voting for Munro as Mayor because there was no other nomination to consider . Had I voted against it would have made no difference to the result.

If the PTC were to have a Chair rather than a Mayor would not change the situation either - it has to be a Cllr .

The vacancy on the PTC was advertised in the proper way and there was coverage in the Dorset Echo . So there is no reason other than inefficiency or apathy that no one put them selves forward as a candidate .Its a simple process to apply , trying to blame the Clerk is no excuse , begs the question of suitability if not able to follow the national set rules.

As for other comments about what the PTC has or not done , I do wish that people would at least keep to the facts. The PTC has few 'powers' and can only comment on Planning applications to the Planning Authority . The PTC did object to the Officer Fields development and to housing development at Reap Lane and behind Tesco which are now back for further consideration. The PTC has opposed the IPACA application for Southwell , indeed the current Mayor Les Ames did speak at the recent public inquiry Against that application , along with other Town , County and Borough Cllrs , myself included, we await the result .

Oh and as for the comments re the £700 cost of having a Mayor , that's to cover travel etc for when the Mayor has to go others parts of the County to represent the PTC , it would make no difference if it were a Chair they would still need to travel and remember that Town Cllrs are not paid , its voluntary. Actually most Cllrs contribute to local organisations as well as supporting whatever Charity the Mayor is promoting on the Island

Finally , I remind you that I was co-opted to the PTC. I am happy to give up my time and do the best that I can to improve things on the Island for the majority but I object to being bullied or labelled as a coward . I stand by my public record and open to challenge and accountability but I and neither Les Ames should be insulted. I think its offensive and should not be tolerated by anyone.
[quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: WOW I never knew there was so many Know -it-alls around ? Firstly let me inform you that the post of Town Mayor is done by way of seniority hence why Munro was nominated, even if s person had been elected in place of Rachel Barton it would not have made any difference in the vote. you have what is know locally as 'The Munro Party' his sister his Daughter who by the way never showed her face at a council meeting until Daddy wanted her vote, the same goes for his son-in-law then you have his loyal followers Denton-White & Rodney Wild a man who quote said " I don't want Munro as Mayor but I will Vote for Him if needed", so there you have 5 votes for him There was one absentee and Two Cowards who abstained so as the say there was not a snowballs chance in hell of stopping this. Rest assured that Munro will not be supported in anything he does this year and protests will be held at all the events he attends, 'The Spirit of Portland Party' intends to write to every Parish Council in Dorset and inform them that Munro if invited to their events DOES NOT REPRESENT the Majority of Portland Residents. Rest assured there are moves being made to ready the Isle for the elections next may when the Residents of Portland will show their disliking of Those six cllrs by replacing them. Now below is a letter received by a member of The Spirit of Portland Party from a Resident who was willing and able and had the necessary backing to replace Rachel Barton...... Make of this what you will Reading the latest comments on the vacant seat on the Portland Town Council.It might be a good idea to see who wants to put themselves forward. I would dearly love to sit on the Town Council but would much prefer to be voted in rather than co-option. But saying that I did call into the council office BEFORE the closing date to pick up the appropriate forms and was told that the vacant seat was NOT going to be taken by co-option there would be a by-election and this would be run alongside the Borough Council elections which I am also going to stand for. I hope the clerk has not misinformed me. After all I have been questioning his ability. It's ok to be a 'Keyboard Warrior but for Pete sake get your facts right first[/p][/quote]The convention is that the Cllr that has the longest service is offered to be Mayor . Of course conventions can be challenged as was proven when a majority voted for Rob Hughes rather than Richard Denton White as Deputy Mayor. I abstained for voting for Munro as Mayor because there was no other nomination to consider . Had I voted against it would have made no difference to the result. If the PTC were to have a Chair rather than a Mayor would not change the situation either - it has to be a Cllr . The vacancy on the PTC was advertised in the proper way and there was coverage in the Dorset Echo . So there is no reason other than inefficiency or apathy that no one put them selves forward as a candidate .Its a simple process to apply , trying to blame the Clerk is no excuse , begs the question of suitability if not able to follow the national set rules. As for other comments about what the PTC has or not done , I do wish that people would at least keep to the facts. The PTC has few 'powers' and can only comment on Planning applications to the Planning Authority . The PTC did object to the Officer Fields development and to housing development at Reap Lane and behind Tesco which are now back for further consideration. The PTC has opposed the IPACA application for Southwell , indeed the current Mayor Les Ames did speak at the recent public inquiry Against that application , along with other Town , County and Borough Cllrs , myself included, we await the result . Oh and as for the comments re the £700 cost of having a Mayor , that's to cover travel etc for when the Mayor has to go others parts of the County to represent the PTC , it would make no difference if it were a Chair they would still need to travel and remember that Town Cllrs are not paid , its voluntary. Actually most Cllrs contribute to local organisations as well as supporting whatever Charity the Mayor is promoting on the Island Finally , I remind you that I was co-opted to the PTC. I am happy to give up my time and do the best that I can to improve things on the Island for the majority but I object to being bullied or labelled as a coward . I stand by my public record and open to challenge and accountability but I and neither Les Ames should be insulted. I think its offensive and should not be tolerated by anyone. Ray Nowak
  • Score: -1

11:42am Sat 22 Mar 14

southwellman says...

Ray Nowak wrote:
1Kimberlin wrote:
WOW I never knew there was so many Know -it-alls around ? Firstly let me inform you that the post of Town Mayor is done by way of seniority hence why Munro was nominated, even if s person had been elected in place of Rachel Barton it would not have made any difference in the vote. you have what is know locally as 'The Munro Party' his sister his Daughter who by the way never showed her face at a council meeting until Daddy wanted her vote, the same goes for his son-in-law then you have his loyal followers Denton-White & Rodney Wild a man who quote said " I don't want Munro as Mayor but I will Vote for Him if needed", so there you have 5 votes for him There was one absentee and Two Cowards who abstained so as the say there was not a snowballs chance in hell of stopping this. Rest assured that Munro will not be supported in anything he does this year and protests will be held at all the events he attends, 'The Spirit of Portland Party' intends to write to every Parish Council in Dorset and inform them that Munro if invited to their events DOES NOT REPRESENT the Majority of Portland Residents. Rest assured there are moves being made to ready the Isle for the elections next may when the Residents of Portland will show their disliking of Those six cllrs by replacing them. Now below is a letter received by a member of The Spirit of Portland Party from a Resident who was willing and able and had the necessary backing to replace Rachel Barton...... Make of this what you will

Reading the latest comments on the vacant seat on the Portland Town Council.It might be a good idea to see who wants to put themselves forward. I would dearly love to sit on the Town Council but would much prefer to be voted in rather than co-option. But saying that I did call into the council office BEFORE the closing date to pick up the appropriate forms and was told that the vacant seat was NOT going to be taken by co-option there would be a by-election and this would be run alongside the Borough Council elections which I am also going to stand for. I hope the clerk has not misinformed me. After all I have been questioning his ability.
It's ok to be a 'Keyboard Warrior but for Pete sake get your facts right first
The convention is that the Cllr that has the longest service is offered to be Mayor . Of course conventions can be challenged as was proven when a majority voted for Rob Hughes rather than Richard Denton White as Deputy Mayor.
I abstained for voting for Munro as Mayor because there was no other nomination to consider . Had I voted against it would have made no difference to the result.

If the PTC were to have a Chair rather than a Mayor would not change the situation either - it has to be a Cllr .

The vacancy on the PTC was advertised in the proper way and there was coverage in the Dorset Echo . So there is no reason other than inefficiency or apathy that no one put them selves forward as a candidate .Its a simple process to apply , trying to blame the Clerk is no excuse , begs the question of suitability if not able to follow the national set rules.

As for other comments about what the PTC has or not done , I do wish that people would at least keep to the facts. The PTC has few 'powers' and can only comment on Planning applications to the Planning Authority . The PTC did object to the Officer Fields development and to housing development at Reap Lane and behind Tesco which are now back for further consideration. The PTC has opposed the IPACA application for Southwell , indeed the current Mayor Les Ames did speak at the recent public inquiry Against that application , along with other Town , County and Borough Cllrs , myself included, we await the result .

Oh and as for the comments re the £700 cost of having a Mayor , that's to cover travel etc for when the Mayor has to go others parts of the County to represent the PTC , it would make no difference if it were a Chair they would still need to travel and remember that Town Cllrs are not paid , its voluntary. Actually most Cllrs contribute to local organisations as well as supporting whatever Charity the Mayor is promoting on the Island

Finally , I remind you that I was co-opted to the PTC. I am happy to give up my time and do the best that I can to improve things on the Island for the majority but I object to being bullied or labelled as a coward . I stand by my public record and open to challenge and accountability but I and neither Les Ames should be insulted. I think its offensive and should not be tolerated by anyone.
So the party that was publicly opposing officers field were the ones who were secretly dealing with the sales of the supposed affordable housing for local people, which it turns out only a small percentage of the buildings were put aside for that reason and starting prices well out the reach of local people.. I have and many more have avoided the estate agent that pulled that one off.. and may more people avoid the estate agent until they are out of business and away from the area!
[quote][p][bold]Ray Nowak[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: WOW I never knew there was so many Know -it-alls around ? Firstly let me inform you that the post of Town Mayor is done by way of seniority hence why Munro was nominated, even if s person had been elected in place of Rachel Barton it would not have made any difference in the vote. you have what is know locally as 'The Munro Party' his sister his Daughter who by the way never showed her face at a council meeting until Daddy wanted her vote, the same goes for his son-in-law then you have his loyal followers Denton-White & Rodney Wild a man who quote said " I don't want Munro as Mayor but I will Vote for Him if needed", so there you have 5 votes for him There was one absentee and Two Cowards who abstained so as the say there was not a snowballs chance in hell of stopping this. Rest assured that Munro will not be supported in anything he does this year and protests will be held at all the events he attends, 'The Spirit of Portland Party' intends to write to every Parish Council in Dorset and inform them that Munro if invited to their events DOES NOT REPRESENT the Majority of Portland Residents. Rest assured there are moves being made to ready the Isle for the elections next may when the Residents of Portland will show their disliking of Those six cllrs by replacing them. Now below is a letter received by a member of The Spirit of Portland Party from a Resident who was willing and able and had the necessary backing to replace Rachel Barton...... Make of this what you will Reading the latest comments on the vacant seat on the Portland Town Council.It might be a good idea to see who wants to put themselves forward. I would dearly love to sit on the Town Council but would much prefer to be voted in rather than co-option. But saying that I did call into the council office BEFORE the closing date to pick up the appropriate forms and was told that the vacant seat was NOT going to be taken by co-option there would be a by-election and this would be run alongside the Borough Council elections which I am also going to stand for. I hope the clerk has not misinformed me. After all I have been questioning his ability. It's ok to be a 'Keyboard Warrior but for Pete sake get your facts right first[/p][/quote]The convention is that the Cllr that has the longest service is offered to be Mayor . Of course conventions can be challenged as was proven when a majority voted for Rob Hughes rather than Richard Denton White as Deputy Mayor. I abstained for voting for Munro as Mayor because there was no other nomination to consider . Had I voted against it would have made no difference to the result. If the PTC were to have a Chair rather than a Mayor would not change the situation either - it has to be a Cllr . The vacancy on the PTC was advertised in the proper way and there was coverage in the Dorset Echo . So there is no reason other than inefficiency or apathy that no one put them selves forward as a candidate .Its a simple process to apply , trying to blame the Clerk is no excuse , begs the question of suitability if not able to follow the national set rules. As for other comments about what the PTC has or not done , I do wish that people would at least keep to the facts. The PTC has few 'powers' and can only comment on Planning applications to the Planning Authority . The PTC did object to the Officer Fields development and to housing development at Reap Lane and behind Tesco which are now back for further consideration. The PTC has opposed the IPACA application for Southwell , indeed the current Mayor Les Ames did speak at the recent public inquiry Against that application , along with other Town , County and Borough Cllrs , myself included, we await the result . Oh and as for the comments re the £700 cost of having a Mayor , that's to cover travel etc for when the Mayor has to go others parts of the County to represent the PTC , it would make no difference if it were a Chair they would still need to travel and remember that Town Cllrs are not paid , its voluntary. Actually most Cllrs contribute to local organisations as well as supporting whatever Charity the Mayor is promoting on the Island Finally , I remind you that I was co-opted to the PTC. I am happy to give up my time and do the best that I can to improve things on the Island for the majority but I object to being bullied or labelled as a coward . I stand by my public record and open to challenge and accountability but I and neither Les Ames should be insulted. I think its offensive and should not be tolerated by anyone.[/p][/quote]So the party that was publicly opposing officers field were the ones who were secretly dealing with the sales of the supposed affordable housing for local people, which it turns out only a small percentage of the buildings were put aside for that reason and starting prices well out the reach of local people.. I have and many more have avoided the estate agent that pulled that one off.. and may more people avoid the estate agent until they are out of business and away from the area! southwellman
  • Score: 19

3:34pm Sat 22 Mar 14

weymouthfox says...

Isn't it about this this Toytown Parliament was dissolved?
Isn't it about this this Toytown Parliament was dissolved? weymouthfox
  • Score: 1

10:53am Sun 23 Mar 14

Get a grip says...

As far as I remember many of the residents called for the councilllors to stand down

They wanted a fresh set of councilllors

All very good

Now a seat is available no one has put themselves up for election

Can anyone tell me why not?

Please do not go back over old ground just deal with a simple question
As far as I remember many of the residents called for the councilllors to stand down They wanted a fresh set of councilllors All very good Now a seat is available no one has put themselves up for election Can anyone tell me why not? Please do not go back over old ground just deal with a simple question Get a grip
  • Score: 2

10:58am Sun 23 Mar 14

Foursite says...

What Mr Nowak fails to tell us is that Denton White accepted the position of deputy Mayor after Robert Hughes initially turned it down.. However the willing acceptance with a broad grin from Denton White goading we the public was when we left the meeting in disgust.
When we left Richard Denton White was deputy Mayor.It was our walk out that changed their minds. It will be interesting to see how the clerk records this.He told us he does so by memory. I suggest a very selective memory. we shall see.
What Mr Nowak fails to tell us is that Denton White accepted the position of deputy Mayor after Robert Hughes initially turned it down.. However the willing acceptance with a broad grin from Denton White goading we the public was when we left the meeting in disgust. When we left Richard Denton White was deputy Mayor.It was our walk out that changed their minds. It will be interesting to see how the clerk records this.He told us he does so by memory. I suggest a very selective memory. we shall see. Foursite
  • Score: 10

11:02am Sun 23 Mar 14

Nomalice says...

I, wholeheartedly accept that there are good people like Ray Nowak,on PTC,with genuine concerns for, and interests in the future of this Island.
However ,by his own admission, Ray Nowak acknowledges, that PTC has "few powers", when it comes to really important decisions.
This begs the question,Why does it need to exist?.
If it only serves as a vehicle tobdip the pockets of the electorate,for fanciful projects, and travel expenses to other 'talking shop' gatherings.
I, wholeheartedly accept that there are good people like Ray Nowak,on PTC,with genuine concerns for, and interests in the future of this Island. However ,by his own admission, Ray Nowak acknowledges, that PTC has "few powers", when it comes to really important decisions. This begs the question,Why does it need to exist?. If it only serves as a vehicle tobdip the pockets of the electorate,for fanciful projects, and travel expenses to other 'talking shop' gatherings. Nomalice
  • Score: 2

11:03am Sun 23 Mar 14

Foursite says...

Get a grip wrote:
As far as I remember many of the residents called for the councilllors to stand down

They wanted a fresh set of councilllors

All very good

Now a seat is available no one has put themselves up for election

Can anyone tell me why not?

Please do not go back over old ground just deal with a simple question
There is a plan in place.
[quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: As far as I remember many of the residents called for the councilllors to stand down They wanted a fresh set of councilllors All very good Now a seat is available no one has put themselves up for election Can anyone tell me why not? Please do not go back over old ground just deal with a simple question[/p][/quote]There is a plan in place. Foursite
  • Score: 6

11:28am Sun 23 Mar 14

Nomalice says...

Is the cunning plan a Baldrick Secret or can we all share.?
Is the cunning plan a Baldrick Secret or can we all share.? Nomalice
  • Score: -2

12:51pm Sun 23 Mar 14

portlandboi says...

Foursite wrote:
Get a grip wrote:
As far as I remember many of the residents called for the councilllors to stand down

They wanted a fresh set of councilllors

All very good

Now a seat is available no one has put themselves up for election

Can anyone tell me why not?

Please do not go back over old ground just deal with a simple question
There is a plan in place.
Being head of the "DT5 CREW" think I might stand. Who's with me?
[quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: As far as I remember many of the residents called for the councilllors to stand down They wanted a fresh set of councilllors All very good Now a seat is available no one has put themselves up for election Can anyone tell me why not? Please do not go back over old ground just deal with a simple question[/p][/quote]There is a plan in place.[/p][/quote]Being head of the "DT5 CREW" think I might stand. Who's with me? portlandboi
  • Score: -3

1:51am Wed 26 Mar 14

Sigurd Hoberth says...

portlandboi wrote:
Foursite wrote:
Get a grip wrote:
As far as I remember many of the residents called for the councilllors to stand down

They wanted a fresh set of councilllors

All very good

Now a seat is available no one has put themselves up for election

Can anyone tell me why not?

Please do not go back over old ground just deal with a simple question
There is a plan in place.
Being head of the "DT5 CREW" think I might stand. Who's with me?
Some who says"DT5 CREW" sounds like he needs special education, not standing for anything because he clearly cannot walk yet.
[quote][p][bold]portlandboi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Get a grip[/bold] wrote: As far as I remember many of the residents called for the councilllors to stand down They wanted a fresh set of councilllors All very good Now a seat is available no one has put themselves up for election Can anyone tell me why not? Please do not go back over old ground just deal with a simple question[/p][/quote]There is a plan in place.[/p][/quote]Being head of the "DT5 CREW" think I might stand. Who's with me?[/p][/quote]Some who says"DT5 CREW" sounds like he needs special education, not standing for anything because he clearly cannot walk yet. Sigurd Hoberth
  • Score: 0

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