Portland launches new tourism strategy

Portland Bill attracts plenty of tourists

Portland Bill attracts plenty of tourists

First published in News Dorset Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Trainee Reporter

PORTLAND is launching a new strategy to encourage more people to visit the island.

Some residents on Portland felt neglected after the launch of a £100,000 marketing campaign that focused on attracting holidaymakers to Weymouth.

Now businesses on Portland are being encouraged to take advantage of a tourism strategy produced by the Portland Community Partnership (PCP).

They want people to come and see the unique attractions the island has to offer from Portland Bill lighthouse and Tout Quarry Sculpture Park to the majestic sweep of Chesil Beach.

They are also keen to showcase the outdoor activities available from watersports at the sailing academy and sea angling to diving and rock-climbing.

The island received worldwide coverage during the Olympics and more recently the storms again brought major media attention and the island hopes to build on that.

PCP is an organisation that works with local, voluntary and statutory authorities to improve the physical and economic conditions on the island. The tourism and visiting strategy is split into three strategic themes, focusing on visitor brand, consistent service quality and sustainable tourism.

Objectives under each theme are attached to a number of action points.

One objective is to develop the ‘Portland product’, with an action proposed to establish a strategically based tourist information point.

The Heights Hotel is currently being considered to act as a host for this information point, and would remain open between 8am and 6pm all year round.

Andy Matthews, chairman of the PCP, said: “The Portland brand is a key element and we have got to do a lot of work around that. It is a lot of disparate things at the moment.”

The tourism and visiting strategy was produced with the intention of allowing organisations on the island to work together and develop common ideas.

Mr Matthews said: “This is being used by several organisations to construct development bids.

“Although it is a working draft, it is still constructive in a way that people can pick bits out of it.”

He added: “It doesn’t matter necessarily who’s doing it, as long as somebody is doing something.”

Some residents in Portland felt neglected after the launch of a £100,000 marketing campaign that focused on attracting holidaymakers to Weymouth.

Mr Matthews said the PCP’s strategy was designed to make it easier to market the whole area.

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6:13am Wed 26 Mar 14

islandman says...

Portland Bill, known throughout the world, accessible FIVEweeks of the year and then only until about 4pm, that's if you are reliant on public transport.

Until this has been overcome, visitors and many locals will remain in town.
Portland Bill, known throughout the world, accessible FIVEweeks of the year and then only until about 4pm, that's if you are reliant on public transport. Until this has been overcome, visitors and many locals will remain in town. islandman
  • Score: 9

7:35am Wed 26 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

Most visitors drive to the Bill and drive straight off again. Not entirely surprising, given that there is, for example,nowhere for a coach to set down/ pick up or park in Easton. I might add that the Bill itself is poorly served with one, albeit very nice, cafe.

I would be interested to know how PCP developed their strategy and how they are communicating it to local businesses.
Most visitors drive to the Bill and drive straight off again. Not entirely surprising, given that there is, for example,nowhere for a coach to set down/ pick up or park in Easton. I might add that the Bill itself is poorly served with one, albeit very nice, cafe. I would be interested to know how PCP developed their strategy and how they are communicating it to local businesses. Rocksalt
  • Score: 5

8:17am Wed 26 Mar 14

PORTLAND ROVER says...

PCP Held a number of open days / evenings so that the people and businesses of Portland can have their say on a great number of Portland issues. These were written down on comment cards provided and the results have been used to see where the focus should lie. Portland lost it's TIC at the bill along with the other over in the Pavilion. PCP has always promoted the Isle since it's inception... this is the culmination of those thoughts and Ideas and the fact we have no TIC.

BID Have secured funding to create their own Information service, and has categorically stated that they will not be promoting Portland. I am absolutely fine with that... But I expect NOT to see any Portland Photographs being used to publicise their area of choice and I also do not want to see Photos of Chesil Beach with the Caption 'Chesil Beach... Weymouth'.... You may think this petty... But what do you expect? I have no problem with Bid trying to get people to visit the Town...Good luck, but I think you are being unrealistic to tout for Middle income Families only!

Those on the mainland seem to think that Portland's only attraction is the Lighthouse... and that all visitors head for the Bill... Of course some of that is true... but I have seen a large increase of Walkers who have often commented to me on how wonderful Portland is. There is a lot, more to do that just visit the Bill... and who knows, maybe Jurassica Centre... IF it goes ahead... Maybe the prime visitor attraction in the area? What then of BID? will their stance on publicising Portland change then?

I guess we will all see... Good luck BID... I wish you well... but what will be your reply when a visitor asks you for information about Portland? Will you tell them... "Sorry...We don't DO Portland"? Which pretty much sums up the W&PBC stance since 1974... But I digress!

I look forward to you having a go with responding comments... Telling me how 'wrong' I am and that I am a 'little Islander' and that we are ALL ONE BOROUGH... you are telling the wrong person... say the same thing to BID. DISCUSS! ;-)
PCP Held a number of open days / evenings so that the people and businesses of Portland can have their say on a great number of Portland issues. These were written down on comment cards provided and the results have been used to see where the focus should lie. Portland lost it's TIC at the bill along with the other over in the Pavilion. PCP has always promoted the Isle since it's inception... this is the culmination of those thoughts and Ideas and the fact we have no TIC. BID Have secured funding to create their own Information service, and has categorically stated that they will not be promoting Portland. I am absolutely fine with that... But I expect NOT to see any Portland Photographs being used to publicise their area of choice and I also do not want to see Photos of Chesil Beach with the Caption 'Chesil Beach... Weymouth'.... You may think this petty... But what do you expect? I have no problem with Bid trying to get people to visit the Town...Good luck, but I think you are being unrealistic to tout for Middle income Families only! Those on the mainland seem to think that Portland's only attraction is the Lighthouse... and that all visitors head for the Bill... Of course some of that is true... but I have seen a large increase of Walkers who have often commented to me on how wonderful Portland is. There is a lot, more to do that just visit the Bill... and who knows, maybe Jurassica Centre... IF it goes ahead... Maybe the prime visitor attraction in the area? What then of BID? will their stance on publicising Portland change then? I guess we will all see... Good luck BID... I wish you well... but what will be your reply when a visitor asks you for information about Portland? Will you tell them... "Sorry...We don't DO Portland"? Which pretty much sums up the W&PBC stance since 1974... But I digress! I look forward to you having a go with responding comments... Telling me how 'wrong' I am and that I am a 'little Islander' and that we are ALL ONE BOROUGH... you are telling the wrong person... say the same thing to BID. DISCUSS! ;-) PORTLAND ROVER
  • Score: 6

8:38am Wed 26 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

Portland Rover. I agree there are merits in a shared approach. But in fairness, businesses on Portland don't pay the Weymouth BID levy.
Portland Rover. I agree there are merits in a shared approach. But in fairness, businesses on Portland don't pay the Weymouth BID levy. Rocksalt
  • Score: 2

8:49am Wed 26 Mar 14

schadwick says...

There is a suggestion Portland that you build a 'Jurrasic' park in
Yeolands quarry.....yes it's expensive...........
......jobs to build it...........bed/bre
akfast accomodation needed for visitors.........emp
loyment at the
facility..........A BRILLIANT IDEA..............WO
RK ON IT...........IF YOU DON'T ASK
YOU DON'T GET!
There is a suggestion Portland that you build a 'Jurrasic' park in Yeolands quarry.....yes it's expensive........... ......jobs to build it...........bed/bre akfast accomodation needed for visitors.........emp loyment at the facility..........A BRILLIANT IDEA..............WO RK ON IT...........IF YOU DON'T ASK YOU DON'T GET! schadwick
  • Score: -2

9:02am Wed 26 Mar 14

southwellman says...

How about lowering the stupendously high car parking charges at the Bill which put people off stopping.. then perhaps run more than one bus a day. then perhaps the PTC (Who are a waste of space) actually fight for some of the council tax money instead of letting it all be spent on Weymouth.. and then lastly for the love of all things holy.. We are an island.. with people.. not a brand!
How about lowering the stupendously high car parking charges at the Bill which put people off stopping.. then perhaps run more than one bus a day. then perhaps the PTC (Who are a waste of space) actually fight for some of the council tax money instead of letting it all be spent on Weymouth.. and then lastly for the love of all things holy.. We are an island.. with people.. not a brand! southwellman
  • Score: 1

9:45am Wed 26 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

I was interested in reading the document, but there isn't a link in the article and there isn't an obvious link on the PCP site, which seems like a lost opportunity.
I was interested in reading the document, but there isn't a link in the article and there isn't an obvious link on the PCP site, which seems like a lost opportunity. Rocksalt
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Andy Matthews says...

Sorry the strategy is on our website portlandcommunitypar
tnership.co.uk. Its under the dropbox section pdf file called Tourism Strategy Portland Working Draft 2013. We will put a narrative link from the Tourism header. We weren't certain how and when the Echo would proceed with the article so caught out !!

The consultation occurred in late 2012. We anticipated that they were likely changes to the Tourist Information arrangements so we worked with members in the community and the Borough to develop this. It was circulated to about 300 groups and individuals who are on our circulation list and also to statutory consultees via the Dorset Coast Forum. The consultation was also advised via the Echo and the FPN.

We only had requests for minor changes but we issued it in March 2013 . It can be adapted as it is a working draft.
The issue about brand is that if you have an identifiable 'product' it is then hopefully more valued by visitors who may be prepared to contribute towards further improvements/mainten
ance etc likewise businesses who see the benefit of a joined up approach.
We do have to start thinking in this way because if we don't do it for the Island then others will and we again lose out.
Andy Matthews
Sorry the strategy is on our website portlandcommunitypar tnership.co.uk. Its under the dropbox section pdf file called Tourism Strategy Portland Working Draft 2013. We will put a narrative link from the Tourism header. We weren't certain how and when the Echo would proceed with the article so caught out !! The consultation occurred in late 2012. We anticipated that they were likely changes to the Tourist Information arrangements so we worked with members in the community and the Borough to develop this. It was circulated to about 300 groups and individuals who are on our circulation list and also to statutory consultees via the Dorset Coast Forum. The consultation was also advised via the Echo and the FPN. We only had requests for minor changes but we issued it in March 2013 . It can be adapted as it is a working draft. The issue about brand is that if you have an identifiable 'product' it is then hopefully more valued by visitors who may be prepared to contribute towards further improvements/mainten ance etc likewise businesses who see the benefit of a joined up approach. We do have to start thinking in this way because if we don't do it for the Island then others will and we again lose out. Andy Matthews Andy Matthews
  • Score: 6

3:22pm Wed 26 Mar 14

PORTLAND ROVER says...

Rocksalt wrote:
Portland Rover. I agree there are merits in a shared approach. But in fairness, businesses on Portland don't pay the Weymouth BID levy.
As I understand it.. Bid will receive some funding. If that funding comes from council tax payers...Then it would seem Portland money will go to promote the Sandy Beach town and not their own town. If this is correct...then it is unfair to say the least.
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: Portland Rover. I agree there are merits in a shared approach. But in fairness, businesses on Portland don't pay the Weymouth BID levy.[/p][/quote]As I understand it.. Bid will receive some funding. If that funding comes from council tax payers...Then it would seem Portland money will go to promote the Sandy Beach town and not their own town. If this is correct...then it is unfair to say the least. PORTLAND ROVER
  • Score: 2

4:23pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

Andy Matthews wrote:
Sorry the strategy is on our website portlandcommunitypar

tnership.co.uk. Its under the dropbox section pdf file called Tourism Strategy Portland Working Draft 2013. We will put a narrative link from the Tourism header. We weren't certain how and when the Echo would proceed with the article so caught out !!

The consultation occurred in late 2012. We anticipated that they were likely changes to the Tourist Information arrangements so we worked with members in the community and the Borough to develop this. It was circulated to about 300 groups and individuals who are on our circulation list and also to statutory consultees via the Dorset Coast Forum. The consultation was also advised via the Echo and the FPN.

We only had requests for minor changes but we issued it in March 2013 . It can be adapted as it is a working draft.
The issue about brand is that if you have an identifiable 'product' it is then hopefully more valued by visitors who may be prepared to contribute towards further improvements/mainten

ance etc likewise businesses who see the benefit of a joined up approach.
We do have to start thinking in this way because if we don't do it for the Island then others will and we again lose out.
Andy Matthews
Andy -Thank you for your helpful reply.
[quote][p][bold]Andy Matthews[/bold] wrote: Sorry the strategy is on our website portlandcommunitypar tnership.co.uk. Its under the dropbox section pdf file called Tourism Strategy Portland Working Draft 2013. We will put a narrative link from the Tourism header. We weren't certain how and when the Echo would proceed with the article so caught out !! The consultation occurred in late 2012. We anticipated that they were likely changes to the Tourist Information arrangements so we worked with members in the community and the Borough to develop this. It was circulated to about 300 groups and individuals who are on our circulation list and also to statutory consultees via the Dorset Coast Forum. The consultation was also advised via the Echo and the FPN. We only had requests for minor changes but we issued it in March 2013 . It can be adapted as it is a working draft. The issue about brand is that if you have an identifiable 'product' it is then hopefully more valued by visitors who may be prepared to contribute towards further improvements/mainten ance etc likewise businesses who see the benefit of a joined up approach. We do have to start thinking in this way because if we don't do it for the Island then others will and we again lose out. Andy Matthews[/p][/quote]Andy -Thank you for your helpful reply. Rocksalt
  • Score: 1

5:43pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Foursite says...

Portland has felt neglected for a long time.You only have to look at recent
events to see how many Portland residents feel.
You need to be promoting Portland in a positive manor or maybe a Royal Manor,as pompous as this may sound.
The behaviour of PTC has done nothing good for Portland but highlight anyone wishing to live here will have to pay another tax for no services, and could well not be able to get on or off the Island.
Good luck Andy.
Portland has felt neglected for a long time.You only have to look at recent events to see how many Portland residents feel. You need to be promoting Portland in a positive manor or maybe a Royal Manor,as pompous as this may sound. The behaviour of PTC has done nothing good for Portland but highlight anyone wishing to live here will have to pay another tax for no services, and could well not be able to get on or off the Island. Good luck Andy. Foursite
  • Score: 10

6:07pm Wed 26 Mar 14

PORTLAND ROVER says...

Good evening everyone. Here is a link to the PCP Draft Tourism Strategy. Thanks.

http://www.portlandc
ommunitypartnership.
co.uk/#!map/c4k4
Good evening everyone. Here is a link to the PCP Draft Tourism Strategy. Thanks. http://www.portlandc ommunitypartnership. co.uk/#!map/c4k4 PORTLAND ROVER
  • Score: 0

6:56pm Wed 26 Mar 14

islandman says...

After my post, the first of this thread, it is said "Most visitors drive to the Bill", YES, OF COURSE THEY DO, THERE'S NO ALTERNATIVE ! except for the five weeks of school holidays, that's exactly my point.

I would also agree that many drive off again due to parking charges, and the obvious "there isn't much here, let's not stop" comment.

It would be fair to say that ALL visitors to the area have heard of on Portland is the Bill, nothing else.
After my post, the first of this thread, it is said "Most visitors drive to the Bill", YES, OF COURSE THEY DO, THERE'S NO ALTERNATIVE ! except for the five weeks of school holidays, that's exactly my point. I would also agree that many drive off again due to parking charges, and the obvious "there isn't much here, let's not stop" comment. It would be fair to say that ALL visitors to the area have heard of on Portland is the Bill, nothing else. islandman
  • Score: -1

7:27pm Wed 26 Mar 14

PORTLAND ROVER says...

I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH.

The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.
I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH. The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it. PORTLAND ROVER
  • Score: 3

8:26pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Foursite says...

PORTLAND ROVER wrote:
I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH.

The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.
I agree that many people come to the Island to walk climb and explore but our footpaths are in short supply these days.If we haven't lost them through erosion like East and West cliffs we have lost them through quarrying and never replaced. The railway cutting and between Southern Mill and Weston Street two prime examples.These historic footpaths have disappeared under dubious circumstances and needs to stop in order to promote the healthy options many Portland residents and visitors like to take.
[quote][p][bold]PORTLAND ROVER[/bold] wrote: I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH. The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.[/p][/quote]I agree that many people come to the Island to walk climb and explore but our footpaths are in short supply these days.If we haven't lost them through erosion like East and West cliffs we have lost them through quarrying and never replaced. The railway cutting and between Southern Mill and Weston Street two prime examples.These historic footpaths have disappeared under dubious circumstances and needs to stop in order to promote the healthy options many Portland residents and visitors like to take. Foursite
  • Score: 12

9:12pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Tillydog says...

Foursite wrote:
PORTLAND ROVER wrote:
I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH.

The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.
I agree that many people come to the Island to walk climb and explore but our footpaths are in short supply these days.If we haven't lost them through erosion like East and West cliffs we have lost them through quarrying and never replaced. The railway cutting and between Southern Mill and Weston Street two prime examples.These historic footpaths have disappeared under dubious circumstances and needs to stop in order to promote the healthy options many Portland residents and visitors like to take.
Also the illegal riding of horses and motorcycles on the footpaths make them very dangerous.This antisocial behaviour must stop before someone gets hurt badly or killed .I don't think these people can have public liability insurance so it has to be a problem in promoting safe walking or bird watching on Portland.
Dog Bless
[quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PORTLAND ROVER[/bold] wrote: I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH. The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.[/p][/quote]I agree that many people come to the Island to walk climb and explore but our footpaths are in short supply these days.If we haven't lost them through erosion like East and West cliffs we have lost them through quarrying and never replaced. The railway cutting and between Southern Mill and Weston Street two prime examples.These historic footpaths have disappeared under dubious circumstances and needs to stop in order to promote the healthy options many Portland residents and visitors like to take.[/p][/quote]Also the illegal riding of horses and motorcycles on the footpaths make them very dangerous.This antisocial behaviour must stop before someone gets hurt badly or killed .I don't think these people can have public liability insurance so it has to be a problem in promoting safe walking or bird watching on Portland. Dog Bless Tillydog
  • Score: 9

7:33pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

PORTLAND ROVER wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Portland Rover. I agree there are merits in a shared approach. But in fairness, businesses on Portland don't pay the Weymouth BID levy.
As I understand it.. Bid will receive some funding. If that funding comes from council tax payers...Then it would seem Portland money will go to promote the Sandy Beach town and not their own town. If this is correct...then it is unfair to say the least.
True, but still unfair to businesses in Weymouth if Portland businesses are not contributing. Two wrongs don't make a right.
[quote][p][bold]PORTLAND ROVER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: Portland Rover. I agree there are merits in a shared approach. But in fairness, businesses on Portland don't pay the Weymouth BID levy.[/p][/quote]As I understand it.. Bid will receive some funding. If that funding comes from council tax payers...Then it would seem Portland money will go to promote the Sandy Beach town and not their own town. If this is correct...then it is unfair to say the least.[/p][/quote]True, but still unfair to businesses in Weymouth if Portland businesses are not contributing. Two wrongs don't make a right. Rocksalt
  • Score: -1

7:33pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

PORTLAND ROVER wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Portland Rover. I agree there are merits in a shared approach. But in fairness, businesses on Portland don't pay the Weymouth BID levy.
As I understand it.. Bid will receive some funding. If that funding comes from council tax payers...Then it would seem Portland money will go to promote the Sandy Beach town and not their own town. If this is correct...then it is unfair to say the least.
True, but still unfair to businesses in Weymouth if Portland businesses are not contributing. Two wrongs don't make a right.
[quote][p][bold]PORTLAND ROVER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: Portland Rover. I agree there are merits in a shared approach. But in fairness, businesses on Portland don't pay the Weymouth BID levy.[/p][/quote]As I understand it.. Bid will receive some funding. If that funding comes from council tax payers...Then it would seem Portland money will go to promote the Sandy Beach town and not their own town. If this is correct...then it is unfair to say the least.[/p][/quote]True, but still unfair to businesses in Weymouth if Portland businesses are not contributing. Two wrongs don't make a right. Rocksalt
  • Score: -2

7:41pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

Tillydog wrote:
Foursite wrote:
PORTLAND ROVER wrote:
I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH.

The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.
I agree that many people come to the Island to walk climb and explore but our footpaths are in short supply these days.If we haven't lost them through erosion like East and West cliffs we have lost them through quarrying and never replaced. The railway cutting and between Southern Mill and Weston Street two prime examples.These historic footpaths have disappeared under dubious circumstances and needs to stop in order to promote the healthy options many Portland residents and visitors like to take.
Also the illegal riding of horses and motorcycles on the footpaths make them very dangerous.This antisocial behaviour must stop before someone gets hurt badly or killed .I don't think these people can have public liability insurance so it has to be a problem in promoting safe walking or bird watching on Portland.
Dog Bless
Personally, I don't find the horses to be dangerous, although I am less happy that they render some paths into unusable bogs in the winter. That isn't helpful. I couldn't agree more about the motorcycles.

One other thing that doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned in the PCP document that I think is important. Many parts /paths on the island are surrounded by rubbish ( including dog mess). This hardly encourages visitors. I have heard people try to blame visitors for the trash. Doubtless they are responsible for some, but I have to day a remarkable amount of new rubbish seems to have appeared over the winter. And I don't mean the stuff on the beach.
[quote][p][bold]Tillydog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PORTLAND ROVER[/bold] wrote: I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH. The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.[/p][/quote]I agree that many people come to the Island to walk climb and explore but our footpaths are in short supply these days.If we haven't lost them through erosion like East and West cliffs we have lost them through quarrying and never replaced. The railway cutting and between Southern Mill and Weston Street two prime examples.These historic footpaths have disappeared under dubious circumstances and needs to stop in order to promote the healthy options many Portland residents and visitors like to take.[/p][/quote]Also the illegal riding of horses and motorcycles on the footpaths make them very dangerous.This antisocial behaviour must stop before someone gets hurt badly or killed .I don't think these people can have public liability insurance so it has to be a problem in promoting safe walking or bird watching on Portland. Dog Bless[/p][/quote]Personally, I don't find the horses to be dangerous, although I am less happy that they render some paths into unusable bogs in the winter. That isn't helpful. I couldn't agree more about the motorcycles. One other thing that doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned in the PCP document that I think is important. Many parts /paths on the island are surrounded by rubbish ( including dog mess). This hardly encourages visitors. I have heard people try to blame visitors for the trash. Doubtless they are responsible for some, but I have to day a remarkable amount of new rubbish seems to have appeared over the winter. And I don't mean the stuff on the beach. Rocksalt
  • Score: -1

10:17pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Foursite says...

Agree totally Rocksalt the Island is a tip.It has been neglected for a very long time, But it would be like a turkey voting for Christmas putting this stuff in the PCP document.
Agree totally Rocksalt the Island is a tip.It has been neglected for a very long time, But it would be like a turkey voting for Christmas putting this stuff in the PCP document. Foursite
  • Score: 3

10:34pm Thu 27 Mar 14

ksmain says...

How do you advertise and strategise a 4 by 2 rock covered by holes in the ground, social housing estates and a large prison area?
How do you advertise and strategise a 4 by 2 rock covered by holes in the ground, social housing estates and a large prison area? ksmain
  • Score: 0

10:41pm Thu 27 Mar 14

ksmain says...

PORTLAND ROVER wrote:
I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH.

The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.
Walking? 3 paces in either direction ends in the sea.

And when was the last time you were in Weymouth - if you think it only has a sandy beach. Come on - a fantastic promenade walk, nice harbour where you can get a decent pint, nice view and a decent meal. Yes I know that the local councillors have no idea how to promote it, but it blows 'Leerdammer' Portland out the water!
[quote][p][bold]PORTLAND ROVER[/bold] wrote: I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH. The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.[/p][/quote]Walking? 3 paces in either direction ends in the sea. And when was the last time you were in Weymouth - if you think it only has a sandy beach. Come on - a fantastic promenade walk, nice harbour where you can get a decent pint, nice view and a decent meal. Yes I know that the local councillors have no idea how to promote it, but it blows 'Leerdammer' Portland out the water! ksmain
  • Score: -2

6:29am Fri 28 Mar 14

Tillydog says...

Rocksalt wrote:
Tillydog wrote:
Foursite wrote:
PORTLAND ROVER wrote:
I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH.

The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.
I agree that many people come to the Island to walk climb and explore but our footpaths are in short supply these days.If we haven't lost them through erosion like East and West cliffs we have lost them through quarrying and never replaced. The railway cutting and between Southern Mill and Weston Street two prime examples.These historic footpaths have disappeared under dubious circumstances and needs to stop in order to promote the healthy options many Portland residents and visitors like to take.
Also the illegal riding of horses and motorcycles on the footpaths make them very dangerous.This antisocial behaviour must stop before someone gets hurt badly or killed .I don't think these people can have public liability insurance so it has to be a problem in promoting safe walking or bird watching on Portland.
Dog Bless
Personally, I don't find the horses to be dangerous, although I am less happy that they render some paths into unusable bogs in the winter. That isn't helpful. I couldn't agree more about the motorcycles.

One other thing that doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned in the PCP document that I think is important. Many parts /paths on the island are surrounded by rubbish ( including dog mess). This hardly encourages visitors. I have heard people try to blame visitors for the trash. Doubtless they are responsible for some, but I have to day a remarkable amount of new rubbish seems to have appeared over the winter. And I don't mean the stuff on the beach.
If you are a blue badge holder in Weymouth & Portland you DO NOT have to clean up after your dog according to W&PBC solicitor. So lets hope this great influx of visitors to the Portland "Brand" are not disabled and have their dogs with them.
Dog Bless Portland and its people.
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tillydog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Foursite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PORTLAND ROVER[/bold] wrote: I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH. The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.[/p][/quote]I agree that many people come to the Island to walk climb and explore but our footpaths are in short supply these days.If we haven't lost them through erosion like East and West cliffs we have lost them through quarrying and never replaced. The railway cutting and between Southern Mill and Weston Street two prime examples.These historic footpaths have disappeared under dubious circumstances and needs to stop in order to promote the healthy options many Portland residents and visitors like to take.[/p][/quote]Also the illegal riding of horses and motorcycles on the footpaths make them very dangerous.This antisocial behaviour must stop before someone gets hurt badly or killed .I don't think these people can have public liability insurance so it has to be a problem in promoting safe walking or bird watching on Portland. Dog Bless[/p][/quote]Personally, I don't find the horses to be dangerous, although I am less happy that they render some paths into unusable bogs in the winter. That isn't helpful. I couldn't agree more about the motorcycles. One other thing that doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned in the PCP document that I think is important. Many parts /paths on the island are surrounded by rubbish ( including dog mess). This hardly encourages visitors. I have heard people try to blame visitors for the trash. Doubtless they are responsible for some, but I have to day a remarkable amount of new rubbish seems to have appeared over the winter. And I don't mean the stuff on the beach.[/p][/quote]If you are a blue badge holder in Weymouth & Portland you DO NOT have to clean up after your dog according to W&PBC solicitor. So lets hope this great influx of visitors to the Portland "Brand" are not disabled and have their dogs with them. Dog Bless Portland and its people. Tillydog
  • Score: 6

7:59am Fri 28 Mar 14

Rocksalt says...

ksmain wrote:
How do you advertise and strategise a 4 by 2 rock covered by holes in the ground, social housing estates and a large prison area?
For sure, it's probably always going to be a niche market. But it does have some unique features and attributes which do attract people from all over Europe and beyond. It may only appeal to a minority, but it's a fraction of a huge market.

One might argue that other parts of Dorset , ( Weymouth included) are very next nice, but nothing you can't find elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: How do you advertise and strategise a 4 by 2 rock covered by holes in the ground, social housing estates and a large prison area?[/p][/quote]For sure, it's probably always going to be a niche market. But it does have some unique features and attributes which do attract people from all over Europe and beyond. It may only appeal to a minority, but it's a fraction of a huge market. One might argue that other parts of Dorset , ( Weymouth included) are very next nice, but nothing you can't find elsewhere. Rocksalt
  • Score: 0

1:45pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Tillydog says...

Further to my earlier post and the mention of dog fouling
below is from an email forwarded on to me.Any information that could result in the identity of the recipient has been removed.

Subject: RE: Report an incident of animal fouling: Weymouth and Portland
Good Afternoon Mr ****
In response to your email, as l said l would have to contact our legal department which l did the email response is below:-
Ian Lewis Dog Warden
Nothing in this article applies to a person who –
(a) is registered as a blind person in a register compiled under section 29 of the National Assistance Act 1948; or
(b) has a disability which affects his mobility, manual dexterity, physical co-ordination or ability to lift,
carry or otherwise move everyday objects, in respect of a dog trained by a prescribed charity and upon which he
relies for assistance.”
Kind regards
Helen Gardner Solicitor-Advocate

Sort of ironic really when we are told dog fouling on playing fields can cause blindness.
Further to my earlier post and the mention of dog fouling below is from an email forwarded on to me.Any information that could result in the identity of the recipient has been removed. Subject: RE: Report an incident of animal fouling: Weymouth and Portland Good Afternoon Mr **** In response to your email, as l said l would have to contact our legal department which l did the email response is below:- Ian Lewis Dog Warden Nothing in this article applies to a person who – (a) is registered as a blind person in a register compiled under section 29 of the National Assistance Act 1948; or (b) has a disability which affects his mobility, manual dexterity, physical co-ordination or ability to lift, carry or otherwise move everyday objects, in respect of a dog trained by a prescribed charity and upon which he relies for assistance.” Kind regards Helen Gardner Solicitor-Advocate Sort of ironic really when we are told dog fouling on playing fields can cause blindness. Tillydog
  • Score: 7

10:03am Sun 30 Mar 14

PORTLAND ROVER says...

ksmain wrote:
PORTLAND ROVER wrote:
I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH.

The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.
Walking? 3 paces in either direction ends in the sea.

And when was the last time you were in Weymouth - if you think it only has a sandy beach. Come on - a fantastic promenade walk, nice harbour where you can get a decent pint, nice view and a decent meal. Yes I know that the local councillors have no idea how to promote it, but it blows 'Leerdammer' Portland out the water!
Nothing I cannot get on Portland! You forget Portland is almost totally surrounded by the South West Coast Path... almost 10.5 Miles... this does not include the many miles of Inland and quarry trails... so NO! not quite 3 Paces as you suggest!
[quote][p][bold]ksmain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PORTLAND ROVER[/bold] wrote: I don't agree Island man... Not all visitors come for the Bill... Many many come for the Walking. Many also come to have a go at stone carving. There is a growing trend of walkers and climbers visiting Portland. Portland Museum has really wonderful reviews on Trip Advisor . Yes, Portland does not have a crowd puller other than the Beauty of the Isle itself...but then again... Weymouth has only it's SANDY BEACH. The recent Countryfile coverage of the Isle, hopefully will bring more people to explore... because..Portland is an Explorers Isle... so much to see...if you go and look for it.[/p][/quote]Walking? 3 paces in either direction ends in the sea. And when was the last time you were in Weymouth - if you think it only has a sandy beach. Come on - a fantastic promenade walk, nice harbour where you can get a decent pint, nice view and a decent meal. Yes I know that the local councillors have no idea how to promote it, but it blows 'Leerdammer' Portland out the water![/p][/quote]Nothing I cannot get on Portland! You forget Portland is almost totally surrounded by the South West Coast Path... almost 10.5 Miles... this does not include the many miles of Inland and quarry trails... so NO! not quite 3 Paces as you suggest! PORTLAND ROVER
  • Score: 1

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