Dorchester bar bids for late licence

Dorchester bar bids for late licence

Dorchester bar bids for late licence

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THE OWNERS of a Dorchester bar say they hope to reassure residents who have voiced objections to their plans for late night opening.

An application has been submitted by Four D, which was opened by Alex and Nikki Ford in Trinity Street last December, to keep its doors open until 4am on Friday and Saturday nights.

The submission will be considered at a meeting of West Dorset District Council’s licensing sub-committee on Friday, April 11.

Members of the committee will also consider a dozen representations that have been submitted by concerned local residents.

One letter states: “As residents living in the vicinity of Trinity Street we have had experience of unacceptable levels of noise and disturbance caused by inebriated behaviour that has occurred when similar premises have been vacated.”

Another says: “I am dismayed to think of the anti-social behaviour that these late hours will encourage in the neighbourhood.”

The bar, which currently has permission to stay open till 1am at weekends, has opened until 4am on occasions during the winter under a temporary events licence but the residents feel problems with noise will be exacerbated in the summer when windows are open and more people hang around outside the premises.

Another letter states: “We do not really see the need to stay open until 4am as Dorchester is not exactly a ‘party destination’.

“Nowhere else in Dorchester has such a late licence, so it would attract everyone who wants to continue drinking until the early hours.”

Nikki said that she understood that local residents had concerns, but she and Alex were keen to use the meeting to allay some of their fears.

She said: “We are going to go there and give our reasons as to why we think Dorchester deserves a bit of nightlife and we hope the residents can see we are just trying to make a business.

“We are not there to attract drunkards or cause trouble, we are just trying to give Dorchester a bit of nightlife.”

The application states that during the late night openings door staff will be at Four D from 10pm and Nikki said they would be helping to make sure people entering or leaving the premises respect their neighbours.

She said: “We are trying to eliminate trouble, not trying to make it.”

The licensing sub-committee will have the power to grant the application as submitted, grant it with conditions or refuse the application.

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2:54pm Fri 4 Apr 14

garypenfold@hotmail.co.uk says...

I am sorry to read such negative points about this what about café jagos they open till 400am you nimbysim drives me mad Dorchester needs some nightlife ok good luck to those at ford d for winning this application ,when visters come theyre used too burning the candle good luck ,amongst those stuffy n.i.my.b.y d gang
I am sorry to read such negative points about this what about café jagos they open till 400am you nimbysim drives me mad Dorchester needs some nightlife ok good luck to those at ford d for winning this application ,when visters come theyre used too burning the candle good luck ,amongst those stuffy n.i.my.b.y d gang garypenfold@hotmail.co.uk
  • Score: 5

3:23pm Fri 4 Apr 14

DorchDiva says...

Great place, DJ plays great music! would be a lot of fun if they opened til 4! The night only begins at 12 !
Great place, DJ plays great music! would be a lot of fun if they opened til 4! The night only begins at 12 ! DorchDiva
  • Score: 10

3:40pm Fri 4 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

"“We are not there to attract drunkards or cause trouble, we are just trying to give Dorchester a bit of nightlife.”
Let's not be disingenuous, you are trying to make a profit in a location which has closed and reopened at least 4 times in the last 5-6 years. Don't make out you are trying to provide some community service.
Jagos attracts a different crowd, i think. A far less troublesome one in comparison with the kinds that you find lurching from the Junction and George late at night.
"“We are not there to attract drunkards or cause trouble, we are just trying to give Dorchester a bit of nightlife.” Let's not be disingenuous, you are trying to make a profit in a location which has closed and reopened at least 4 times in the last 5-6 years. Don't make out you are trying to provide some community service. Jagos attracts a different crowd, i think. A far less troublesome one in comparison with the kinds that you find lurching from the Junction and George late at night. JamesYoung
  • Score: 7

3:43pm Fri 4 Apr 14

marabout says...

Although I won't be going to this bar at 4am I am sure that there are plenty of young people in this town who would like to meet up with friends and enjoy a sociable time with them until the early hours of the morning.

There absolutely is a great need and enthusiasm for more varied nightlife in Dorchester and this is just the sort of venue where people can safely enjoy a sociable time.

The trouble with closing at 1am is that everyone leaves the venue at the same time and therefore the noise is more concentrated. If people were allowed to leave beyond 1am then there is an argument to suggest that the local area would be quieter.
Although I won't be going to this bar at 4am I am sure that there are plenty of young people in this town who would like to meet up with friends and enjoy a sociable time with them until the early hours of the morning. There absolutely is a great need and enthusiasm for more varied nightlife in Dorchester and this is just the sort of venue where people can safely enjoy a sociable time. The trouble with closing at 1am is that everyone leaves the venue at the same time and therefore the noise is more concentrated. If people were allowed to leave beyond 1am then there is an argument to suggest that the local area would be quieter. marabout
  • Score: 8

3:45pm Fri 4 Apr 14

westbaywonder says...

Just see the vomit and blood running down the gutters of Dorchester on Friday and Saturday nights get the plod riot van parked up and kebab house open until 6AM.Lovely,Bring it on, im all for it peeps.

Lovely,Welcome to Dorchester,what it needs to be honest, could wake it up from its miserable slumber.

Bless em little cherubs,just be careful Aunt Maggie does not come down from Poundbury and give you all a good telling off!!! LOL
Just see the vomit and blood running down the gutters of Dorchester on Friday and Saturday nights get the plod riot van parked up and kebab house open until 6AM.Lovely,Bring it on, im all for it peeps. Lovely,Welcome to Dorchester,what it needs to be honest, could wake it up from its miserable slumber. Bless em little cherubs,just be careful Aunt Maggie does not come down from Poundbury and give you all a good telling off!!! LOL westbaywonder
  • Score: -5

4:19pm Fri 4 Apr 14

mr commonsense says...

Can someone explain to me why anybody needs to be out and drinking to 4 am in the morning. What sort of social life is that ? These people are only in it for the money and I wonder if they would pay for the attention their drunk customers might need at DCH, or The Police having to attend. Wherever local people live licensing should be restricted to closing at midnight and no later.
Can someone explain to me why anybody needs to be out and drinking to 4 am in the morning. What sort of social life is that ? These people are only in it for the money and I wonder if they would pay for the attention their drunk customers might need at DCH, or The Police having to attend. Wherever local people live licensing should be restricted to closing at midnight and no later. mr commonsense
  • Score: 1

4:48pm Fri 4 Apr 14

UKIPpers says...

Ten years ago Dorchester offered The Junction, the Firestation, Paul's Nightclub/Bo Jangles and Libertys Night Clubs as a post pub destination.

Now there is Cafe Jagos, which is a friendly and enjoyable destination who cater well for their customers, but come on, lets have a bit more choice in the town.

The wider ranging the choice and opening times of pubs and clubs in town the more dispersed the crowd will be both in location and leaving times.

Good luck with your application 4D.
Ten years ago Dorchester offered The Junction, the Firestation, Paul's Nightclub/Bo Jangles and Libertys Night Clubs as a post pub destination. Now there is Cafe Jagos, which is a friendly and enjoyable destination who cater well for their customers, but come on, lets have a bit more choice in the town. The wider ranging the choice and opening times of pubs and clubs in town the more dispersed the crowd will be both in location and leaving times. Good luck with your application 4D. UKIPpers
  • Score: 12

4:52pm Fri 4 Apr 14

westbaywonder says...

Why does anyone need to be doing anything at anytime.

Either they have to or just plain want to.

If you go to the toilet at 4am its becouse you have to for obvious reason,not becouse you want to.

If you then decide to have a mug of tea or put on the radio,it is becouse you want to not becouse you need to.
FFS! LOL.
Why does anyone need to be doing anything at anytime. Either they have to or just plain want to. If you go to the toilet at 4am its becouse you have to for obvious reason,not becouse you want to. If you then decide to have a mug of tea or put on the radio,it is becouse you want to not becouse you need to. FFS! LOL. westbaywonder
  • Score: 4

9:36pm Fri 4 Apr 14

jmc1 says...

westbaywonder wrote:
Why does anyone need to be doing anything at anytime.

Either they have to or just plain want to.

If you go to the toilet at 4am its becouse you have to for obvious reason,not becouse you want to.

If you then decide to have a mug of tea or put on the radio,it is becouse you want to not becouse you need to.
FFS! LOL.
Must be the best comment that westbaywonder has ever made in the Dorset Echo
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: Why does anyone need to be doing anything at anytime. Either they have to or just plain want to. If you go to the toilet at 4am its becouse you have to for obvious reason,not becouse you want to. If you then decide to have a mug of tea or put on the radio,it is becouse you want to not becouse you need to. FFS! LOL.[/p][/quote]Must be the best comment that westbaywonder has ever made in the Dorset Echo jmc1
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Sat 5 Apr 14

caz maz says...

The answer is a forgone conclusion..........
..only 2 police officers covering the town and surrounding areas it has to be no..............and lets face it there is no money in the pot to pay for any more officers.
The answer is a forgone conclusion.......... ..only 2 police officers covering the town and surrounding areas it has to be no..............and lets face it there is no money in the pot to pay for any more officers. caz maz
  • Score: 0

3:45pm Sat 5 Apr 14

captainwizard says...

...yes they want to make money from people being drunk...who cares?

People make money from much worse things than people having a laugh. I'm T-Total myself, and I support this, it would be a great place for people to go after the pubs close, or after watching a film at the Plaza etc.

Who wants to drink at 4 in the morning? ... Maybe the people who will be in their at 4, happily exchanging money for booze! Just because you don't see the point in it, doesn't me there isn't custom for it.

I used to live in a city/town centre, and not once cared about the noise on a friday or saturday night, I chose to live in the city/town centre, just like these people do.

Also why are people objecting to this because Jagos is open late. When I did drink, I would avoid it, as it was usually too packed and uncomfortable to even enjoy being in there. And even though I have had some great nights in Jagos, I have also had some bad ones, so another choice to them wouldn't be a bad thing!

I have heard this argument over and over again, and cringe when I see people objecting to it. A successful entertainment spot to coexisit on trinity street with everything else can never be a negative thing.

I say this town needs to stop living in the 50s and think about getting a bowling alley, a real arcade (not annoying gambling ones), a new arts centre, and maybe a strip club. Feed everyones tastes and interests, and attract more people going out and spending money in our towns infrastructure, instead of going to weymouth, Poole, and bournemouth.
...yes they want to make money from people being drunk...who cares? People make money from much worse things than people having a laugh. I'm T-Total myself, and I support this, it would be a great place for people to go after the pubs close, or after watching a film at the Plaza etc. Who wants to drink at 4 in the morning? ... Maybe the people who will be in their at 4, happily exchanging money for booze! Just because you don't see the point in it, doesn't me there isn't custom for it. I used to live in a city/town centre, and not once cared about the noise on a friday or saturday night, I chose to live in the city/town centre, just like these people do. Also why are people objecting to this because Jagos is open late. When I did drink, I would avoid it, as it was usually too packed and uncomfortable to even enjoy being in there. And even though I have had some great nights in Jagos, I have also had some bad ones, so another choice to them wouldn't be a bad thing! I have heard this argument over and over again, and cringe when I see people objecting to it. A successful entertainment spot to coexisit on trinity street with everything else can never be a negative thing. I say this town needs to stop living in the 50s and think about getting a bowling alley, a real arcade (not annoying gambling ones), a new arts centre, and maybe a strip club. Feed everyones tastes and interests, and attract more people going out and spending money in our towns infrastructure, instead of going to weymouth, Poole, and bournemouth. captainwizard
  • Score: 4

6:09pm Sat 5 Apr 14

marshmellow says...

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.com/niceroom38
or try this starting in may! https://www.facebook .com/niceroom38 marshmellow
  • Score: 1

11:32am Mon 7 Apr 14

redorblue says...

It's very odd how only one bar in the whole of Dorchester is allowed to stay open until 4am..I wonder who is complaing more about 4D's..the local community or the even more local bar who might lose business & customers to a new late opening? Surely the the council are not being swayed by the organisers of the fabulous Dorchester love parade..who own the ONLY 4am bar in Dorchester..they wouldn't...would they?
It's very odd how only one bar in the whole of Dorchester is allowed to stay open until 4am..I wonder who is complaing more about 4D's..the local community or the even more local bar who might lose business & customers to a new late opening? Surely the the council are not being swayed by the organisers of the fabulous Dorchester love parade..who own the ONLY 4am bar in Dorchester..they wouldn't...would they? redorblue
  • Score: 3

8:31pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Neytiri says...

I myself go in Dorchester frequently, including 4D. This would be a good opportunity for Dorchester to have some much needed nightlife as there are not many currently available it would be nice to have choice. Noise is going to happen regardless if there are other venues open anyway. I agree this can be a lucrative business and as 4D are complying with all other requirements currently in place I see no real reason why they should not get a late licence.
I myself go in Dorchester frequently, including 4D. This would be a good opportunity for Dorchester to have some much needed nightlife as there are not many currently available it would be nice to have choice. Noise is going to happen regardless if there are other venues open anyway. I agree this can be a lucrative business and as 4D are complying with all other requirements currently in place I see no real reason why they should not get a late licence. Neytiri
  • Score: 1

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