Car gets stuck between building and signpost in Dorchester

Dorset Echo: Car gets stuck between building and signpost in Dorchester Car gets stuck between building and signpost in Dorchester

A MOTORIST escaped without serious injuries after ending up wedged between a signpost and a building in Dorchester this afternoon.

Former Mayor of Dorchester Les Phillips said he was swerving to avoid a collision with another car that braked suddenly when his vehicle left the road on High West Street and ended up jammed between the Lloyds Bank building and a signpost.

Police attended the scene and arranged for Mr Phillips’ vehicle to be towed.

He was checked over by paramedics but insisted he was fine.

Mr Phillips said: “I was coming up the high street and the car in front braked suddenly, I thought I was going to hit him so I mounted the pavement and ended up here.

“I’m perfectly alright.”

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5:55pm Tue 8 Apr 14

cosmick says...

Was he charged for driving without due care?
Was he charged for driving without due care? cosmick
  • Score: 43

6:04pm Tue 8 Apr 14

average_kinda_guy says...

Clearly driving too fast, too close, not paying attention or a combination of these, otherwise there would have been no need for such absurd action. Regardless of which I am glad there were no pedestrians involved. I can't help but wonder though; will the driver's insurance company pay for damage to car, sign post and building? Does anyone think they should?
Clearly driving too fast, too close, not paying attention or a combination of these, otherwise there would have been no need for such absurd action. Regardless of which I am glad there were no pedestrians involved. I can't help but wonder though; will the driver's insurance company pay for damage to car, sign post and building? Does anyone think they should? average_kinda_guy
  • Score: 56

6:05pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Tomleecee says...

This is a complete lie. I was stood outside the Lloyds Bank on the corner and saw the whole thing. The red van was in STATIONARY traffic waiting at the red light directly in front of the bank. The red van REVERSED up onto the curb in front of me and then sped up the pavement, hitting things off the wall of the bank and then getting wedged, at speed, between the post and the wall. I can't believe this guy is claiming he saw a car coming the other way! What a complete lie!!! If there had been anyone on the pavement, they would have been hit. There was no other vehicle. The van was stationary in a queue and it seemed to me like the driver couldn't be bothered waiting in the queue.
This is a complete lie. I was stood outside the Lloyds Bank on the corner and saw the whole thing. The red van was in STATIONARY traffic waiting at the red light directly in front of the bank. The red van REVERSED up onto the curb in front of me and then sped up the pavement, hitting things off the wall of the bank and then getting wedged, at speed, between the post and the wall. I can't believe this guy is claiming he saw a car coming the other way! What a complete lie!!! If there had been anyone on the pavement, they would have been hit. There was no other vehicle. The van was stationary in a queue and it seemed to me like the driver couldn't be bothered waiting in the queue. Tomleecee
  • Score: 73

6:07pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Joe_Bloggs says...

average_kinda_guy wrote:
Clearly driving too fast, too close, not paying attention or a combination of these, otherwise there would have been no need for such absurd action. Regardless of which I am glad there were no pedestrians involved. I can't help but wonder though; will the driver's insurance company pay for damage to car, sign post and building? Does anyone think they should?
I think Mr Phillips should pay for all the damages himself, loose his no claims bonus and be charged with driving on the pavement.
[quote][p][bold]average_kinda_guy[/bold] wrote: Clearly driving too fast, too close, not paying attention or a combination of these, otherwise there would have been no need for such absurd action. Regardless of which I am glad there were no pedestrians involved. I can't help but wonder though; will the driver's insurance company pay for damage to car, sign post and building? Does anyone think they should?[/p][/quote]I think Mr Phillips should pay for all the damages himself, loose his no claims bonus and be charged with driving on the pavement. Joe_Bloggs
  • Score: 39

6:09pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Tomleecee says...

Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!!
Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!! Tomleecee
  • Score: 48

6:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Get a grip says...

Tomleecee wrote:
Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!!
Have you told the police this?
[quote][p][bold]Tomleecee[/bold] wrote: Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!![/p][/quote]Have you told the police this? Get a grip
  • Score: 46

9:28pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Tomleecee wrote:
Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!!
In fairness they are only "repeaters" and gossips, not Journalists.
[quote][p][bold]Tomleecee[/bold] wrote: Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!![/p][/quote]In fairness they are only "repeaters" and gossips, not Journalists. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: 17

11:34pm Tue 8 Apr 14

peskykat says...

What a plonker !!!
What a plonker !!! peskykat
  • Score: 14

3:33am Wed 9 Apr 14

westbaywonder says...

As vehicle recovery teams arrived to move the vehicle,a tune could be heard coming from the vehicles radio.
The Echo can now report that the tune was THE ROLLING STONES,
STUCK BETWEEN A POLE AND A HARD PLACE. LOL!
As vehicle recovery teams arrived to move the vehicle,a tune could be heard coming from the vehicles radio. The Echo can now report that the tune was THE ROLLING STONES, STUCK BETWEEN A POLE AND A HARD PLACE. LOL! westbaywonder
  • Score: 1

7:47am Wed 9 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

Tuesday afternoon in Dorchester. There's unlikely to be a shortage of witnesses, and possiblyeven enough CCTV to keep the police happy if they want to investigate further. Still, if anyone saw this and it, as has been suggested, is a complete lie, I certainly hope they talk to the police.
Tuesday afternoon in Dorchester. There's unlikely to be a shortage of witnesses, and possiblyeven enough CCTV to keep the police happy if they want to investigate further. Still, if anyone saw this and it, as has been suggested, is a complete lie, I certainly hope they talk to the police. JackJohnson
  • Score: 24

8:33am Wed 9 Apr 14

Tomleecee says...

I just wonder if there's any point. The guy is an ex-Mayor apparently. I'm just a bloke who saw it. I don't think the police would give a toss to be honest.
I just wonder if there's any point. The guy is an ex-Mayor apparently. I'm just a bloke who saw it. I don't think the police would give a toss to be honest. Tomleecee
  • Score: 21

9:07am Wed 9 Apr 14

Dorset Boy says...

Now is the time for Les the 3 times ex-mayor to give up driving before he causes any more damage to the town
Now is the time for Les the 3 times ex-mayor to give up driving before he causes any more damage to the town Dorset Boy
  • Score: 33

9:07am Wed 9 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

Tomleecee wrote:
I just wonder if there's any point. The guy is an ex-Mayor apparently. I'm just a bloke who saw it. I don't think the police would give a toss to be honest.
There's every point. They might not believe you, but it might prompt them to look for CCTV of the incident.

You wouldn't want him to get away with it just because he's an ex-mayor, would you? If he's lying about what really happened it might have been a medical event he doesn't want to admit to and he's just lucky no-one was in his way.
[quote][p][bold]Tomleecee[/bold] wrote: I just wonder if there's any point. The guy is an ex-Mayor apparently. I'm just a bloke who saw it. I don't think the police would give a toss to be honest.[/p][/quote]There's every point. They might not believe you, but it might prompt them to look for CCTV of the incident. You wouldn't want him to get away with it just because he's an ex-mayor, would you? If he's lying about what really happened it might have been a medical event he doesn't want to admit to and he's just lucky no-one was in his way. JackJohnson
  • Score: 24

9:16am Wed 9 Apr 14

arlbergbahn says...

It's very sad how everyone's queueing up to attack him as a liar and a plonker. He's done a lot for Dorchester, by all accounts he's a smashing bloke. There may be a medical condition, yes, but let's all attack him as a liar and a plonker, it's so much more fun, isn't it.
It's very sad how everyone's queueing up to attack him as a liar and a plonker. He's done a lot for Dorchester, by all accounts he's a smashing bloke. There may be a medical condition, yes, but let's all attack him as a liar and a plonker, it's so much more fun, isn't it. arlbergbahn
  • Score: -39

9:31am Wed 9 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
It's very sad how everyone's queueing up to attack him as a liar and a plonker. He's done a lot for Dorchester, by all accounts he's a smashing bloke. There may be a medical condition, yes, but let's all attack him as a liar and a plonker, it's so much more fun, isn't it.
A possible witness has stated that the story in the Echo does not match what he saw. If the ex-mayor (no matter how good he was for Dorchester in the past) is not telling the truth then he is lying for some reason, Whichever it is is yet to be proved. That would be for the police, or possibly the insurance loss adjuster, to do. It would certainly be in the interests of public safety to find out what really happened and, if necessary, get him off the roads.
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: It's very sad how everyone's queueing up to attack him as a liar and a plonker. He's done a lot for Dorchester, by all accounts he's a smashing bloke. There may be a medical condition, yes, but let's all attack him as a liar and a plonker, it's so much more fun, isn't it.[/p][/quote]A possible witness has stated that the story in the Echo does not match what he saw. If the ex-mayor (no matter how good he was for Dorchester in the past) is not telling the truth then he is lying for some reason, Whichever it is is yet to be proved. That would be for the police, or possibly the insurance loss adjuster, to do. It would certainly be in the interests of public safety to find out what really happened and, if necessary, get him off the roads. JackJohnson
  • Score: 39

10:32am Wed 9 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity.
Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.
Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him. JamesYoung
  • Score: -17

10:35am Wed 9 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

Tomleecee wrote:
I just wonder if there's any point. The guy is an ex-Mayor apparently. I'm just a bloke who saw it. I don't think the police would give a toss to be honest.
It is your duty to report what you saw.
[quote][p][bold]Tomleecee[/bold] wrote: I just wonder if there's any point. The guy is an ex-Mayor apparently. I'm just a bloke who saw it. I don't think the police would give a toss to be honest.[/p][/quote]It is your duty to report what you saw. JamesYoung
  • Score: 28

10:44am Wed 9 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

It's also possible he gave the police the correct version of events, and threw the press a curve-ball to preserve his privacy.
It's also possible he gave the police the correct version of events, and threw the press a curve-ball to preserve his privacy. JackJohnson
  • Score: 0

11:12am Wed 9 Apr 14

CoogarUK.com says...

Is it safe to assume he was breathalysed?
Is it safe to assume he was breathalysed? CoogarUK.com
  • Score: 10

11:52am Wed 9 Apr 14

killerkelly1980 says...

Tomleecee wrote:
I just wonder if there's any point. The guy is an ex-Mayor apparently. I'm just a bloke who saw it. I don't think the police would give a toss to be honest.
Definitely report it mate..... it's idiots like this who help put all of our car insurances up.
[quote][p][bold]Tomleecee[/bold] wrote: I just wonder if there's any point. The guy is an ex-Mayor apparently. I'm just a bloke who saw it. I don't think the police would give a toss to be honest.[/p][/quote]Definitely report it mate..... it's idiots like this who help put all of our car insurances up. killerkelly1980
  • Score: 16

11:55am Wed 9 Apr 14

jjlad2 says...

I knew parking was hard around DCH, but this is taking the biscuit........
I knew parking was hard around DCH, but this is taking the biscuit........ jjlad2
  • Score: 15

12:01pm Wed 9 Apr 14

killerkelly1980 says...

JamesYoung wrote:
Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.
Stop trying to defend the man who, by what a witness has said, has purposely reversed a vehicle in stopped traffic, to try and go round stationary vehicles. This is not acceptable behavior from any driver, and sounds like it was not an accident.
If this had been a "young driver" he/she would not be getting support on here!
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.[/p][/quote]Stop trying to defend the man who, by what a witness has said, has purposely reversed a vehicle in stopped traffic, to try and go round stationary vehicles. This is not acceptable behavior from any driver, and sounds like it was not an accident. If this had been a "young driver" he/she would not be getting support on here! killerkelly1980
  • Score: 20

12:05pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Bill Poster says...

Came to rest outside an insurance brokers..!

That could come in handy..
Came to rest outside an insurance brokers..! That could come in handy.. Bill Poster
  • Score: 11

12:07pm Wed 9 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

It would be difficult to believe that anyone in their right mind would deliberately reverse onto the pavement and try to drive through the gap between the pole and the wall in such a public place just to try to save a little time. Stranger things have happened, though. The police really need to be lookiing into this.

Bizarre.
It would be difficult to believe that anyone in their right mind would deliberately reverse onto the pavement and try to drive through the gap between the pole and the wall in such a public place just to try to save a little time. Stranger things have happened, though. The police really need to be lookiing into this. Bizarre. JackJohnson
  • Score: 10

2:35pm Wed 9 Apr 14

MaidofDorset says...

Does the crossing have CCTV? They often have these days. At least the only things that got hurt was the stone of Lloyds Bank and Les' pride.
Does the crossing have CCTV? They often have these days. At least the only things that got hurt was the stone of Lloyds Bank and Les' pride. MaidofDorset
  • Score: 5

3:46pm Wed 9 Apr 14

aliens10 says...

JamesYoung wrote:
Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity.
Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.
Just because someone has done a lot for the town doesn't give them the right to be treated any differently from anyone else. But I agree that the facts need to be straightened out and verified before the name calling starts.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.[/p][/quote]Just because someone has done a lot for the town doesn't give them the right to be treated any differently from anyone else. But I agree that the facts need to be straightened out and verified before the name calling starts. aliens10
  • Score: 18

3:47pm Wed 9 Apr 14

aliens10 says...

JamesYoung wrote:
Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity.
Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.
Just because someone has done a lot for the town doesn't give them the right to be treated any differently from anyone else. But I agree that the facts need to be straightened out and verified before the name calling starts.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.[/p][/quote]Just because someone has done a lot for the town doesn't give them the right to be treated any differently from anyone else. But I agree that the facts need to be straightened out and verified before the name calling starts. aliens10
  • Score: 11

6:03pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Dorset Boy says...

Tomleecee wrote:
Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!!
I can not believe that you read the article correctly. You say Les drove onto the pavement to avoid a car coming towards him. Les says he swerved to avoid hitting a car that stopped suddenly in front of him. Which story do we believe, I know which I believe.
[quote][p][bold]Tomleecee[/bold] wrote: Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!![/p][/quote]I can not believe that you read the article correctly. You say Les drove onto the pavement to avoid a car coming towards him. Les says he swerved to avoid hitting a car that stopped suddenly in front of him. Which story do we believe, I know which I believe. Dorset Boy
  • Score: -15

7:48pm Wed 9 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

Dorset Boy wrote:
Tomleecee wrote:
Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!!
I can not believe that you read the article correctly. You say Les drove onto the pavement to avoid a car coming towards him. Les says he swerved to avoid hitting a car that stopped suddenly in front of him. Which story do we believe, I know which I believe.
The way I interpret Tomleecee's version is that the van was already (just) past the crossing but was stuck in stationary traffic before the junction. Tomleecee then saw Les reverse onto the pavement before trying to drive between the pole and the bank wall Presumably he planned to turn left at the junction but misjudged the gap between the pole and the wall.

Les' version (as told to the press) is that a vehicle braked suddenly in front of him. He swerved to avoid it, mounted the pavement and ended up stuck between the pole and the bank wall.

Both versions are plausible but only one (or neither) can be correct. Les' version is more likely but means he was travelling too fast to stop in the distance he could see to be clear. He is responsible for all damage. Tomreecee's version is bizarre given the number of witnesses likely to see it. It would also have required Les to make a monumental error of judgement. If Tomreecee is convinced about what he saw he should report it and let the police look into it.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset Boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tomleecee[/bold] wrote: Also, if the police want a witness statement, I'm happy to give one. I can't believe the disparity between what I saw and what is being written here!![/p][/quote]I can not believe that you read the article correctly. You say Les drove onto the pavement to avoid a car coming towards him. Les says he swerved to avoid hitting a car that stopped suddenly in front of him. Which story do we believe, I know which I believe.[/p][/quote]The way I interpret Tomleecee's version is that the van was already (just) past the crossing but was stuck in stationary traffic before the junction. Tomleecee then saw Les reverse onto the pavement before trying to drive between the pole and the bank wall Presumably he planned to turn left at the junction but misjudged the gap between the pole and the wall. Les' version (as told to the press) is that a vehicle braked suddenly in front of him. He swerved to avoid it, mounted the pavement and ended up stuck between the pole and the bank wall. Both versions are plausible but only one (or neither) can be correct. Les' version is more likely but means he was travelling too fast to stop in the distance he could see to be clear. He is responsible for all damage. Tomreecee's version is bizarre given the number of witnesses likely to see it. It would also have required Les to make a monumental error of judgement. If Tomreecee is convinced about what he saw he should report it and let the police look into it. JackJohnson
  • Score: 12

12:01am Thu 10 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

killerkelly1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.
Stop trying to defend the man who, by what a witness has said, has purposely reversed a vehicle in stopped traffic, to try and go round stationary vehicles. This is not acceptable behavior from any driver, and sounds like it was not an accident.
If this had been a "young driver" he/she would not be getting support on here!
I'm not trying to defend anyone (did you not bother reading all that i said?). Tomleecee's supposed eyewitness account is entirely implausible and i don't actually believe it. Why would Les not simply indicate and overtake this parked vehicle? Has Tom bothered reporting what he saw, as the law demands of him, or is he going to continue making anonymous accusations?
The most plausible explanation is Les' own. No less acceptable, perhaps, but understandable.
[quote][p][bold]killerkelly1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.[/p][/quote]Stop trying to defend the man who, by what a witness has said, has purposely reversed a vehicle in stopped traffic, to try and go round stationary vehicles. This is not acceptable behavior from any driver, and sounds like it was not an accident. If this had been a "young driver" he/she would not be getting support on here![/p][/quote]I'm not trying to defend anyone (did you not bother reading all that i said?). Tomleecee's supposed eyewitness account is entirely implausible and i don't actually believe it. Why would Les not simply indicate and overtake this parked vehicle? Has Tom bothered reporting what he saw, as the law demands of him, or is he going to continue making anonymous accusations? The most plausible explanation is Les' own. No less acceptable, perhaps, but understandable. JamesYoung
  • Score: -12

4:09am Thu 10 Apr 14

westbaywonder says...

All this Les this and Les that,does it state on his license and insurance document (ex Mayor,special concessions apply in case of road traffic accident )

What ever the reason and truth in this monumental balls -up, it is 100% crap driving, Re-test called for here defo!!!!
All this Les this and Les that,does it state on his license and insurance document (ex Mayor,special concessions apply in case of road traffic accident ) What ever the reason and truth in this monumental balls -up, it is 100% crap driving, Re-test called for here defo!!!! westbaywonder
  • Score: 11

7:26am Thu 10 Apr 14

mark@greenhill says...

JackJohnson wrote:
It would be difficult to believe that anyone in their right mind would deliberately reverse onto the pavement and try to drive through the gap between the pole and the wall in such a public place just to try to save a little time. Stranger things have happened, though. The police really need to be lookiing into this.

Bizarre.
Depends if he was sober.... was it past 9am?
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: It would be difficult to believe that anyone in their right mind would deliberately reverse onto the pavement and try to drive through the gap between the pole and the wall in such a public place just to try to save a little time. Stranger things have happened, though. The police really need to be lookiing into this. Bizarre.[/p][/quote]Depends if he was sober.... was it past 9am? mark@greenhill
  • Score: 4

7:28am Thu 10 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

JamesYoung wrote:
killerkelly1980 wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.
Stop trying to defend the man who, by what a witness has said, has purposely reversed a vehicle in stopped traffic, to try and go round stationary vehicles. This is not acceptable behavior from any driver, and sounds like it was not an accident.
If this had been a "young driver" he/she would not be getting support on here!
I'm not trying to defend anyone (did you not bother reading all that i said?). Tomleecee's supposed eyewitness account is entirely implausible and i don't actually believe it. Why would Les not simply indicate and overtake this parked vehicle? Has Tom bothered reporting what he saw, as the law demands of him, or is he going to continue making anonymous accusations?
The most plausible explanation is Les' own. No less acceptable, perhaps, but understandable.
Because there was no parked vehicle. In Les' account, quoting from his story as given to the press: "he was swerving to avoid a collision with another car that braked suddenly", and in Tomleecee's version "The van was stationary in a queue and it seemed to me like the driver couldn't be bothered waiting in the queue."
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killerkelly1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.[/p][/quote]Stop trying to defend the man who, by what a witness has said, has purposely reversed a vehicle in stopped traffic, to try and go round stationary vehicles. This is not acceptable behavior from any driver, and sounds like it was not an accident. If this had been a "young driver" he/she would not be getting support on here![/p][/quote]I'm not trying to defend anyone (did you not bother reading all that i said?). Tomleecee's supposed eyewitness account is entirely implausible and i don't actually believe it. Why would Les not simply indicate and overtake this parked vehicle? Has Tom bothered reporting what he saw, as the law demands of him, or is he going to continue making anonymous accusations? The most plausible explanation is Les' own. No less acceptable, perhaps, but understandable.[/p][/quote]Because there was no parked vehicle. In Les' account, quoting from his story as given to the press: "he was swerving to avoid a collision with another car that braked suddenly", and in Tomleecee's version "The van was stationary in a queue and it seemed to me like the driver couldn't be bothered waiting in the queue." JackJohnson
  • Score: 6

7:43am Thu 10 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

westbaywonder wrote:
All this Les this and Les that,does it state on his license and insurance document (ex Mayor,special concessions apply in case of road traffic accident )

What ever the reason and truth in this monumental balls -up, it is 100% crap driving, Re-test called for here defo!!!!
i completely agree actually. But i repeat: it is not necessary to publicly tear apart an elderly man.
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: All this Les this and Les that,does it state on his license and insurance document (ex Mayor,special concessions apply in case of road traffic accident ) What ever the reason and truth in this monumental balls -up, it is 100% crap driving, Re-test called for here defo!!!![/p][/quote]i completely agree actually. But i repeat: it is not necessary to publicly tear apart an elderly man. JamesYoung
  • Score: 12

10:23am Thu 10 Apr 14

MaidofDorset says...

JamesYoung wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
All this Les this and Les that,does it state on his license and insurance document (ex Mayor,special concessions apply in case of road traffic accident )

What ever the reason and truth in this monumental balls -up, it is 100% crap driving, Re-test called for here defo!!!!
i completely agree actually. But i repeat: it is not necessary to publicly tear apart an elderly man.
Before Mr Phillips gets sent for a re-test could he please have a check up with his Doctor, to rule out any problems? Better safe than sorry.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: All this Les this and Les that,does it state on his license and insurance document (ex Mayor,special concessions apply in case of road traffic accident ) What ever the reason and truth in this monumental balls -up, it is 100% crap driving, Re-test called for here defo!!!![/p][/quote]i completely agree actually. But i repeat: it is not necessary to publicly tear apart an elderly man.[/p][/quote]Before Mr Phillips gets sent for a re-test could he please have a check up with his Doctor, to rule out any problems? Better safe than sorry. MaidofDorset
  • Score: 5

4:32pm Thu 10 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

MaidofDorset wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
All this Les this and Les that,does it state on his license and insurance document (ex Mayor,special concessions apply in case of road traffic accident )

What ever the reason and truth in this monumental balls -up, it is 100% crap driving, Re-test called for here defo!!!!
i completely agree actually. But i repeat: it is not necessary to publicly tear apart an elderly man.
Before Mr Phillips gets sent for a re-test could he please have a check up with his Doctor, to rule out any problems? Better safe than sorry.
I think he probably needs a trip to Specsavers first.
[quote][p][bold]MaidofDorset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: All this Les this and Les that,does it state on his license and insurance document (ex Mayor,special concessions apply in case of road traffic accident ) What ever the reason and truth in this monumental balls -up, it is 100% crap driving, Re-test called for here defo!!!![/p][/quote]i completely agree actually. But i repeat: it is not necessary to publicly tear apart an elderly man.[/p][/quote]Before Mr Phillips gets sent for a re-test could he please have a check up with his Doctor, to rule out any problems? Better safe than sorry.[/p][/quote]I think he probably needs a trip to Specsavers first. JackJohnson
  • Score: 1

6:42am Sat 12 Apr 14

Havinganopinion says...

JamesYoung wrote:
Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity.
Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.
It may be hard to lose your independence, but I'm sorry if you're a menace on the roads then I think it's a small price to pay considering what could have happened should there have been a pedestrian involved. Luckily on this occasion there wasn't. I think sympathy is appropriate to those who deserve it. I don't think he does. How many news stories are there everyday where innocent people lose theirs lives or suffer devasting long term disabilities because of other peoples moronic behaviours. Ex mayor or not, there's no excuse.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: Glad to hear Les (and everyone else) is ok. As others have said, Les has done a lot for the town. A couple of years ago I volunteered with a charity working with elderly people in the town. Les was there every week, waiting on people that were younger than himself. He can often be seen in south street, in all weathers, raising money for charity. Possibly it's time for him to hang up his car keys, but let's all think about how hard it is to resign your independence and show an elderly man some sympathy, rather than tearing into him.[/p][/quote]It may be hard to lose your independence, but I'm sorry if you're a menace on the roads then I think it's a small price to pay considering what could have happened should there have been a pedestrian involved. Luckily on this occasion there wasn't. I think sympathy is appropriate to those who deserve it. I don't think he does. How many news stories are there everyday where innocent people lose theirs lives or suffer devasting long term disabilities because of other peoples moronic behaviours. Ex mayor or not, there's no excuse. Havinganopinion
  • Score: 7

5:10pm Sun 13 Apr 14

FROOMITE says...

UPDATE After the accident Les was taken to hospital and was kept in for some hours because it was found that he had an irregular heartbeat. On examining CCTV the Police confirmed that Les's story was correct. Les has voluntarily surrendered his licence as this incident gave him such a shock. Noone can continue at the pace Les has set himself over the years, and in time he will have to relinquish some of his charitable work, we, none of us are getting any younger!! Best Wishes, Les, and undying thanks for all the hours you have given to the people and charities of Dorchester. Heather Dorchester Disabled Club.
UPDATE After the accident Les was taken to hospital and was kept in for some hours because it was found that he had an irregular heartbeat. On examining CCTV the Police confirmed that Les's story was correct. Les has voluntarily surrendered his licence as this incident gave him such a shock. Noone can continue at the pace Les has set himself over the years, and in time he will have to relinquish some of his charitable work, we, none of us are getting any younger!! Best Wishes, Les, and undying thanks for all the hours you have given to the people and charities of Dorchester. Heather Dorchester Disabled Club. FROOMITE
  • Score: 8

12:25pm Tue 15 Apr 14

exocet says...

Well the cctv shouldn't lie.Mr Phillips has surrendered his licence.No body was hurt thankfully but a lot of people have leapt to pour scorn on someone who has given a large part of his life to benefit others.
Any apologies forthcoming?
Well the cctv shouldn't lie.Mr Phillips has surrendered his licence.No body was hurt thankfully but a lot of people have leapt to pour scorn on someone who has given a large part of his life to benefit others. Any apologies forthcoming? exocet
  • Score: 0

10:08pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Billy1mate says...

Voluntarily surrendering a licence means it will be held for 6 months, if told to surrender it is automatically held for 12 months.
Voluntarily surrendering a licence means it will be held for 6 months, if told to surrender it is automatically held for 12 months. Billy1mate
  • Score: 0

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