IPACA wins appeal for new campus at Southwell Business Park

SIGNIFICANT DECISION: Alison Appleyard

SIGNIFICANT DECISION: Alison Appleyard

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THE Isle of Portland Aldridge Community Academy (IPACA) has won its appeal to build a new £14m campus at Southwell Business Park.

Planning inspector Neil Pope has overturned the decision of Weymouth and Portland Borough Council’s planning committee to refuse permission for the build at Maritime House.

His decision was announced following a planning inquiry which was held at the Heights Hotel. The inquiry started in January and was then postponed, resuming again in March.

Alison Appleyard, principal of the Academy, described the decision as ‘significant’ and one that would have major benefits for all young people on Portland, as well as the wider community.

She said: “The new campus has always been an integral part of our vision to create a world-class Academy for our learners. An Academy that Portland can be proud of. It will enable us to deliver exceptional education based on our unique mix of stage-not-age, all-through-learning, digital learning, entrepreneurship and a one-big-family ethos.

“We are passionate about ensuring that all of our learners achieve the highest standards, skills and qualifications. Our new campus, with its 21st century facilities, will make a real difference.”

IPACA is based at four existing Portland schools on five separate campuses.

The plan was for the academy to be split across two sites, Southwell, and the newly-built one at Osprey Quay.

Plans for the campus included alterations, extensions, a new sports hall and sports fields as well as re-organisation and additions to road, footpath and cycle routes.

The proposals for the Southwell Business Park site had been rejected by councillors on several grounds.

They argued the development of the proposed sports hall was outside the development boundary, It was also suggested the traffic proposals would have a significant amenity impact and highway safety implications for Sweet Hill and Avalanche Road.

Mrs Appleyard said: “We consulted extensively with the authorities, listened to our parents and local residents, and incorporated a lot of amendments into the final plans that went to the original hearing and were reconsidered by the Inspector at appeal.”

Plans for the construction will now be further developed with students hoping to be moved to the new campus by September 2015.

Ms Appleyard said: “We will ensure that learners, parents and carers, our staff and the local community are kept informed throughout that process.”

Panel: Appeal notice

The appeal decision notice states: ‘The appeal is allowed and planning permission is granted for alterations and extensions to existing buildings and construction of new sports hall in association with change of use from employment and leisure to educational use (Use Class D1), provide sports fields, reorganise internal road system and parking and modify main site access from Sweet Hill Road, provide new shared footway/cycleway link to Sweet Hill Lane, upgrade existing footpath to Reap Lane and provide new link to the south of 73-78 Reap Lane to provide shared footway/cycleway at Maritime House, Southwell Business Park, Isle of Portland, Dorset, DT5 2NS.’

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5:38pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Portland Frankie says...

YES. YES. YES! About time and so good that we were right from the start. How soon before the trolls come out to play?
YES. YES. YES! About time and so good that we were right from the start. How soon before the trolls come out to play? Portland Frankie
  • Score: -50

5:39pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Be_Happy says...

Democracy is dead, long live commercialism.
Democracy is dead, long live commercialism. Be_Happy
  • Score: 37

5:43pm Fri 11 Apr 14

youngpete says...

Corrupt decision as far as i'm concerned,the local population who know the island well have not been listened to in the slightest.The majority of the people were not in favor of this unsuitable site & now more underhand corruption will follow with the development of the existing sites into housing on an island without the infrastructure to cope with such an increase in population.When it all comes crashing down & the mistake is realised who will be held responsible & called to account?
Corrupt decision as far as i'm concerned,the local population who know the island well have not been listened to in the slightest.The majority of the people were not in favor of this unsuitable site & now more underhand corruption will follow with the development of the existing sites into housing on an island without the infrastructure to cope with such an increase in population.When it all comes crashing down & the mistake is realised who will be held responsible & called to account? youngpete
  • Score: 55

5:47pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Dab0mb1992 says...

This is complete rubbish. No one wants this, I don't even know how it got passed. As above, I think its a **** corrupt decision, I hate it. Sincerely - an IPACA Student.
This is complete rubbish. No one wants this, I don't even know how it got passed. As above, I think its a **** corrupt decision, I hate it. Sincerely - an IPACA Student. Dab0mb1992
  • Score: 63

5:47pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Saund65 says...

A very sad day for the children of Portland.
A very sad day for the children of Portland. Saund65
  • Score: 52

5:50pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Portland Frankie says...

Please give us the names of the people who you think have been corrupt.
Please give us the names of the people who you think have been corrupt. Portland Frankie
  • Score: -46

6:02pm Fri 11 Apr 14

cookie_crumble says...

oh my god why... this is one of the worst places to make a school, why not leave it where it is in the center of the island not right out of the bloody way at the bottom of the island? the school doesn't even NEED moving, i agree with the other students posting here, and am one myself and most of us have no wish to have to go to southwell every day to get to school...
oh my god why... this is one of the worst places to make a school, why not leave it where it is in the center of the island not right out of the bloody way at the bottom of the island? the school doesn't even NEED moving, i agree with the other students posting here, and am one myself and most of us have no wish to have to go to southwell every day to get to school... cookie_crumble
  • Score: 50

6:12pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Swagman420blazeit says...

Absolute ****, who needs this? No one. Who wants this? No one. Yet IPACA are consistent in their efforts to take over the island's education system and turn it into some kind of commercial exercise that it seems will only benefit their image. As a student I need not a school on one end of the island when my home is on the other, it creates extra walking distance and for those in weymouth and underhill a more expensive bus journey, unless of course they have a bus pass. What do they think is going to happen, we will instantly become more educated by moving to a bigger building? This is all a corrupt scam and they indoctrinate us with how good IPACA is, to be honest very little has changed, we've just spent a lot more money on pointless IT equipment, looking at you chromebooks. I have no doubts that this will do very little to alter our education, if not make it more of a hassle every morning.
Absolute ****, who needs this? No one. Who wants this? No one. Yet IPACA are consistent in their efforts to take over the island's education system and turn it into some kind of commercial exercise that it seems will only benefit their image. As a student I need not a school on one end of the island when my home is on the other, it creates extra walking distance and for those in weymouth and underhill a more expensive bus journey, unless of course they have a bus pass. What do they think is going to happen, we will instantly become more educated by moving to a bigger building? This is all a corrupt scam and they indoctrinate us with how good IPACA is, to be honest very little has changed, we've just spent a lot more money on pointless IT equipment, looking at you chromebooks. I have no doubts that this will do very little to alter our education, if not make it more of a hassle every morning. Swagman420blazeit
  • Score: 49

6:15pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Westwindblower says...

And there I was thinking that the people were listened to. Democracy in action, I think not. It all came down to one mans decision. Central Government control does not care about local democracy.
And there I was thinking that the people were listened to. Democracy in action, I think not. It all came down to one mans decision. Central Government control does not care about local democracy. Westwindblower
  • Score: 42

6:18pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Swagman420blazeit says...

Portland Frankie wrote:
Please give us the names of the people who you think have been corrupt.
Every son of a **** who orchestrated this!
[quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: Please give us the names of the people who you think have been corrupt.[/p][/quote]Every son of a **** who orchestrated this! Swagman420blazeit
  • Score: 39

6:37pm Fri 11 Apr 14

portlandboy says...

Although the general schooling in this country has been given a hell of a bashing by the DfE over more recent years and many children have suffered as a result, I'm very pleased that my kids will have left before this move is scheduled to take place.
Although the general schooling in this country has been given a hell of a bashing by the DfE over more recent years and many children have suffered as a result, I'm very pleased that my kids will have left before this move is scheduled to take place. portlandboy
  • Score: 30

6:39pm Fri 11 Apr 14

portland maid says...

How??? I'm baffled how this got overturned. Nothing was changed, the same people that didn't want this, still don't. This school is still being offered up to the part of the Island that is not only difficult to get to for both children and parents, but the most weather beaten part too!! Our democracy has proven once again to be an absolute sham, with those that can keep order having their own agenda and changing things to suit themselves. 'Tis no wonder that some don't see the point in speaking up for anything any more if this is the result. Disgusted.
How??? I'm baffled how this got overturned. Nothing was changed, the same people that didn't want this, still don't. This school is still being offered up to the part of the Island that is not only difficult to get to for both children and parents, but the most weather beaten part too!! Our democracy has proven once again to be an absolute sham, with those that can keep order having their own agenda and changing things to suit themselves. 'Tis no wonder that some don't see the point in speaking up for anything any more if this is the result. Disgusted. portland maid
  • Score: 39

6:41pm Fri 11 Apr 14

youngpete says...

Portland Frankie wrote:
Please give us the names of the people who you think have been corrupt.
I'm afraid the fact you cannot work that out explains how you were so easily led into a yes vote
[quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: Please give us the names of the people who you think have been corrupt.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid the fact you cannot work that out explains how you were so easily led into a yes vote youngpete
  • Score: 22

6:47pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Rasberrysorbet says...

this is a disaster for the island, and shows the total lack of real democracy in this country - if someone wealthy or powerful dislikes a decision they can force through their wishes. IPACA could appeal a legal, local, democratic decision but we are unable to appeal what was a foregone conclusion based on county council greed and short sighted government policy. I can see a future of ugly estates (such as officers field) on school sights, poor schooling for the islands children and a crippled infrastructure. I hope those who have forced this on us will be held accountable when the frits of their labours are found to be rotten.
this is a disaster for the island, and shows the total lack of real democracy in this country - if someone wealthy or powerful dislikes a decision they can force through their wishes. IPACA could appeal a legal, local, democratic decision but we are unable to appeal what was a foregone conclusion based on county council greed and short sighted government policy. I can see a future of ugly estates (such as officers field) on school sights, poor schooling for the islands children and a crippled infrastructure. I hope those who have forced this on us will be held accountable when the frits of their labours are found to be rotten. Rasberrysorbet
  • Score: 36

6:52pm Fri 11 Apr 14

portlandboy says...

portland maid wrote:
How??? I'm baffled how this got overturned. Nothing was changed, the same people that didn't want this, still don't. This school is still being offered up to the part of the Island that is not only difficult to get to for both children and parents, but the most weather beaten part too!! Our democracy has proven once again to be an absolute sham, with those that can keep order having their own agenda and changing things to suit themselves. 'Tis no wonder that some don't see the point in speaking up for anything any more if this is the result. Disgusted.
The decisions about Portland's future are not made by Portlanders or anyone who will be affected by the decisions, that is the biggest problem that Portland now faces.
When things like this happen, it's no wonder that people start to wonder just who is getting paid for what and by whom. This outcome is so wrong it's almost blatantly bent.
[quote][p][bold]portland maid[/bold] wrote: How??? I'm baffled how this got overturned. Nothing was changed, the same people that didn't want this, still don't. This school is still being offered up to the part of the Island that is not only difficult to get to for both children and parents, but the most weather beaten part too!! Our democracy has proven once again to be an absolute sham, with those that can keep order having their own agenda and changing things to suit themselves. 'Tis no wonder that some don't see the point in speaking up for anything any more if this is the result. Disgusted.[/p][/quote]The decisions about Portland's future are not made by Portlanders or anyone who will be affected by the decisions, that is the biggest problem that Portland now faces. When things like this happen, it's no wonder that people start to wonder just who is getting paid for what and by whom. This outcome is so wrong it's almost blatantly bent. portlandboy
  • Score: 34

7:28pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Portland Frankie says...

Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus.
Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus. Portland Frankie
  • Score: -44

7:44pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Saund65 says...

Portland Frankie wrote:
Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus.
Are you insane? Why would anyone name someone personally on here? Everyone who has followed this process from the start (7 years ago) know who these people are. They were the biggest protagonists for a huge white elephant that will NEVER deliver the promises. A few families and local businesses have and are already benefitting - the fact you don't know who they are says it all.
[quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus.[/p][/quote]Are you insane? Why would anyone name someone personally on here? Everyone who has followed this process from the start (7 years ago) know who these people are. They were the biggest protagonists for a huge white elephant that will NEVER deliver the promises. A few families and local businesses have and are already benefitting - the fact you don't know who they are says it all. Saund65
  • Score: 37

9:30pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Weston7 says...

We all had our say. Many felt there were better alternatives, and there will be big difficulties with this location, but there's no point in looking back. Everyone should now bight the bullet and work together to overcome all the predicted problems, for the sake of Portland's future students.
We all had our say. Many felt there were better alternatives, and there will be big difficulties with this location, but there's no point in looking back. Everyone should now bight the bullet and work together to overcome all the predicted problems, for the sake of Portland's future students. Weston7
  • Score: -9

9:37pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Easton55 says...

Why do IPACA keep saying that they listen to the community, when this is so clearly not the case? The community has told them emphatically that this is not the right place for a school. Instead of heeding this, IPACA has resubmitted, rehashed and reworked the proposal umpteen times, and appealed against every rejection. I am totally disillusioned by the whole process.
Why do IPACA keep saying that they listen to the community, when this is so clearly not the case? The community has told them emphatically that this is not the right place for a school. Instead of heeding this, IPACA has resubmitted, rehashed and reworked the proposal umpteen times, and appealed against every rejection. I am totally disillusioned by the whole process. Easton55
  • Score: 31

9:50pm Fri 11 Apr 14

portland rebel says...

like the majority of islanders i have been against this for many reasons, however as we thought all along, this was going to happen in the end as money talks and democracy is dead, i think the barrister summed this in his closing speach,' I believe its more of a case that compass point need ipaca more than ipaca need to build a school there', so now we will sit back and wait until the day comes when the majority will be able to say . told you so but you wouldnt listen' .
like the majority of islanders i have been against this for many reasons, however as we thought all along, this was going to happen in the end as money talks and democracy is dead, i think the barrister summed this in his closing speach,' I believe its more of a case that compass point need ipaca more than ipaca need to build a school there', so now we will sit back and wait until the day comes when the majority will be able to say . told you so but you wouldnt listen' . portland rebel
  • Score: 19

9:52pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Portland Frankie says...

Easton55 wrote:
Why do IPACA keep saying that they listen to the community, when this is so clearly not the case? The community has told them emphatically that this is not the right place for a school. Instead of heeding this, IPACA has resubmitted, rehashed and reworked the proposal umpteen times, and appealed against every rejection. I am totally disillusioned by the whole process.
The community seem to be rather supportive from what I can see. Hiding behind your keyboard saying "we don't want it" with a silly name is pathetic. Have a look on the Facebook forums where people are putting their names on. They live on Portland and their kids go to school at IPACA. Lots of positive support and we can't wait. Democracy rules and nobody paid a single bribe. Well done Mrs Applegate and her supporters. You've done us proud.
[quote][p][bold]Easton55[/bold] wrote: Why do IPACA keep saying that they listen to the community, when this is so clearly not the case? The community has told them emphatically that this is not the right place for a school. Instead of heeding this, IPACA has resubmitted, rehashed and reworked the proposal umpteen times, and appealed against every rejection. I am totally disillusioned by the whole process.[/p][/quote]The community seem to be rather supportive from what I can see. Hiding behind your keyboard saying "we don't want it" with a silly name is pathetic. Have a look on the Facebook forums where people are putting their names on. They live on Portland and their kids go to school at IPACA. Lots of positive support and we can't wait. Democracy rules and nobody paid a single bribe. Well done Mrs Applegate and her supporters. You've done us proud. Portland Frankie
  • Score: -32

10:15pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Easton55 says...

Portland Frankie wrote:
Easton55 wrote:
Why do IPACA keep saying that they listen to the community, when this is so clearly not the case? The community has told them emphatically that this is not the right place for a school. Instead of heeding this, IPACA has resubmitted, rehashed and reworked the proposal umpteen times, and appealed against every rejection. I am totally disillusioned by the whole process.
The community seem to be rather supportive from what I can see. Hiding behind your keyboard saying "we don't want it" with a silly name is pathetic. Have a look on the Facebook forums where people are putting their names on. They live on Portland and their kids go to school at IPACA. Lots of positive support and we can't wait. Democracy rules and nobody paid a single bribe. Well done Mrs Applegate and her supporters. You've done us proud.
I live on Portland. My children go to IPACA, and I see good and bad there, as at all schools. The bottom line is that the location is wrong. By the way, her name is Mrs Appleyard...not Applegate.
[quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Easton55[/bold] wrote: Why do IPACA keep saying that they listen to the community, when this is so clearly not the case? The community has told them emphatically that this is not the right place for a school. Instead of heeding this, IPACA has resubmitted, rehashed and reworked the proposal umpteen times, and appealed against every rejection. I am totally disillusioned by the whole process.[/p][/quote]The community seem to be rather supportive from what I can see. Hiding behind your keyboard saying "we don't want it" with a silly name is pathetic. Have a look on the Facebook forums where people are putting their names on. They live on Portland and their kids go to school at IPACA. Lots of positive support and we can't wait. Democracy rules and nobody paid a single bribe. Well done Mrs Applegate and her supporters. You've done us proud.[/p][/quote]I live on Portland. My children go to IPACA, and I see good and bad there, as at all schools. The bottom line is that the location is wrong. By the way, her name is Mrs Appleyard...not Applegate. Easton55
  • Score: 23

10:25pm Fri 11 Apr 14

maximan says...

and the winner of the pose like Tony Blair award goes to....
and the winner of the pose like Tony Blair award goes to.... maximan
  • Score: 14

10:26pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Dab0mb1992 says...

It's real funny, IPACA says its all about listening to the community. In all truth, it's all about putting their image up. IPACA really don't give 2 **** about the community, if they did, well, this wouldn't happen for one, as there are alot more people against the new academy than for it. To be honest, IPACA try and have a good image when, if you look at some lessons in school, or some people who go there, you can see. IPACA will go through with this, it will all blow up in their faces when everybody hates it, then they'll blame someone for it. Case closed.
It's real funny, IPACA says its all about listening to the community. In all truth, it's all about putting their image up. IPACA really don't give 2 **** about the community, if they did, well, this wouldn't happen for one, as there are alot more people against the new academy than for it. To be honest, IPACA try and have a good image when, if you look at some lessons in school, or some people who go there, you can see. IPACA will go through with this, it will all blow up in their faces when everybody hates it, then they'll blame someone for it. Case closed. Dab0mb1992
  • Score: 19

10:32pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Be_Happy says...

Portland Frankie wrote:
Easton55 wrote:
Why do IPACA keep saying that they listen to the community, when this is so clearly not the case? The community has told them emphatically that this is not the right place for a school. Instead of heeding this, IPACA has resubmitted, rehashed and reworked the proposal umpteen times, and appealed against every rejection. I am totally disillusioned by the whole process.
The community seem to be rather supportive from what I can see. Hiding behind your keyboard saying "we don't want it" with a silly name is pathetic. Have a look on the Facebook forums where people are putting their names on. They live on Portland and their kids go to school at IPACA. Lots of positive support and we can't wait. Democracy rules and nobody paid a single bribe. Well done Mrs Applegate and her supporters. You've done us proud.
I have children at IPACA, without any influence from me (I avoid trying to influence their politics / religion / outlook with my jaded views) they have asked if they could transfer to one of the mainland schools if the move to Southwell takes place.
Just wait for the building costs to over run, and then they have to sell off land to developers to cover the extra costs.
Its not just about the Acadamy, its also about the community.
[quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Easton55[/bold] wrote: Why do IPACA keep saying that they listen to the community, when this is so clearly not the case? The community has told them emphatically that this is not the right place for a school. Instead of heeding this, IPACA has resubmitted, rehashed and reworked the proposal umpteen times, and appealed against every rejection. I am totally disillusioned by the whole process.[/p][/quote]The community seem to be rather supportive from what I can see. Hiding behind your keyboard saying "we don't want it" with a silly name is pathetic. Have a look on the Facebook forums where people are putting their names on. They live on Portland and their kids go to school at IPACA. Lots of positive support and we can't wait. Democracy rules and nobody paid a single bribe. Well done Mrs Applegate and her supporters. You've done us proud.[/p][/quote]I have children at IPACA, without any influence from me (I avoid trying to influence their politics / religion / outlook with my jaded views) they have asked if they could transfer to one of the mainland schools if the move to Southwell takes place. Just wait for the building costs to over run, and then they have to sell off land to developers to cover the extra costs. Its not just about the Acadamy, its also about the community. Be_Happy
  • Score: 22

10:56pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Weston7 says...

Weston7 wrote:
We all had our say. Many felt there were better alternatives, and there will be big difficulties with this location, but there's no point in looking back. Everyone should now bight the bullet and work together to overcome all the predicted problems, for the sake of Portland's future students.
I meant bite!
[quote][p][bold]Weston7[/bold] wrote: We all had our say. Many felt there were better alternatives, and there will be big difficulties with this location, but there's no point in looking back. Everyone should now bight the bullet and work together to overcome all the predicted problems, for the sake of Portland's future students.[/p][/quote]I meant bite! Weston7
  • Score: -2

9:36am Sat 12 Apr 14

Jezebella says...

Was obvious from the start that this was going to bull-dozed through one way or the other and it looks like with enough money you can bull-doze through what ever you want. Exactly the reason why commercialism and education should never go hand in hand... Oh and they never listened to the parents regardless of what they say. If you disagreed with them, they insisted in trying to educate you why you were wrong and insisted that you obviously didn't understand - they wouldn't accept that you understood completely and just didn't agree with them!
Was obvious from the start that this was going to bull-dozed through one way or the other and it looks like with enough money you can bull-doze through what ever you want. Exactly the reason why commercialism and education should never go hand in hand... Oh and they never listened to the parents regardless of what they say. If you disagreed with them, they insisted in trying to educate you why you were wrong and insisted that you obviously didn't understand - they wouldn't accept that you understood completely and just didn't agree with them! Jezebella
  • Score: 13

9:47am Sat 12 Apr 14

Seb Baker says...

This is not about corruption - it's government policy. In 2011 the Planning Minister Greg Clark announced that - under the Tories' "bonfire of red tape" - planning restrictions would be eased to allow more development to promote growth. The UK planning system is now weighted firmly in favour of developers. This decision was therefore inevitable - the Planning Inspector was bound to overturn the original decision as there were insufficient grounds for refusal under new government planning guidelines. It is true for this application, it was true for Curtis Fields... I wonder how much W&PBC has now spent on unsuccessfully defending planning decisions made against applications, when clearly they were always going to fall within the now relaxed rules. If you don't like the decision, don't blame the Inspector - their job is just to interpret the law - blame the government that made developments like this easier.
This is not about corruption - it's government policy. In 2011 the Planning Minister Greg Clark announced that - under the Tories' "bonfire of red tape" - planning restrictions would be eased to allow more development to promote growth. The UK planning system is now weighted firmly in favour of developers. This decision was therefore inevitable - the Planning Inspector was bound to overturn the original decision as there were insufficient grounds for refusal under new government planning guidelines. It is true for this application, it was true for Curtis Fields... I wonder how much W&PBC has now spent on unsuccessfully defending planning decisions made against applications, when clearly they were always going to fall within the now relaxed rules. If you don't like the decision, don't blame the Inspector - their job is just to interpret the law - blame the government that made developments like this easier. Seb Baker
  • Score: 9

10:51am Sat 12 Apr 14

Portland Frankie says...

Saund65 wrote:
Portland Frankie wrote:
Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus.
Are you insane? Why would anyone name someone personally on here? Everyone who has followed this process from the start (7 years ago) know who these people are. They were the biggest protagonists for a huge white elephant that will NEVER deliver the promises. A few families and local businesses have and are already benefitting - the fact you don't know who they are says it all.
I'm amazingly sane. The problem still comes back to a small number of stick in the muds who want to belive that somehow IPACA has really deep pockets and is able to pay off all and sundry. I've been following this since the start - I can't see any evidence of corruption. Come back with facts rather than vague accusations and I might take you seriously. It will deliver - its going to brilliant, I can't wait for my kids to move there. Before you ask, I do live in Southwell and i'm still happy. :-)
[quote][p][bold]Saund65[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus.[/p][/quote]Are you insane? Why would anyone name someone personally on here? Everyone who has followed this process from the start (7 years ago) know who these people are. They were the biggest protagonists for a huge white elephant that will NEVER deliver the promises. A few families and local businesses have and are already benefitting - the fact you don't know who they are says it all.[/p][/quote]I'm amazingly sane. The problem still comes back to a small number of stick in the muds who want to belive that somehow IPACA has really deep pockets and is able to pay off all and sundry. I've been following this since the start - I can't see any evidence of corruption. Come back with facts rather than vague accusations and I might take you seriously. It will deliver - its going to brilliant, I can't wait for my kids to move there. Before you ask, I do live in Southwell and i'm still happy. :-) Portland Frankie
  • Score: -23

12:02pm Sat 12 Apr 14

youngpete says...

Portland Frankie wrote:
Saund65 wrote:
Portland Frankie wrote:
Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus.
Are you insane? Why would anyone name someone personally on here? Everyone who has followed this process from the start (7 years ago) know who these people are. They were the biggest protagonists for a huge white elephant that will NEVER deliver the promises. A few families and local businesses have and are already benefitting - the fact you don't know who they are says it all.
I'm amazingly sane. The problem still comes back to a small number of stick in the muds who want to belive that somehow IPACA has really deep pockets and is able to pay off all and sundry. I've been following this since the start - I can't see any evidence of corruption. Come back with facts rather than vague accusations and I might take you seriously. It will deliver - its going to brilliant, I can't wait for my kids to move there. Before you ask, I do live in Southwell and i'm still happy. :-)
i think you will find its a large number of so called "stick in the muds" yet with all the "anti" posts you still cannot see you are in the minority group
[quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saund65[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus.[/p][/quote]Are you insane? Why would anyone name someone personally on here? Everyone who has followed this process from the start (7 years ago) know who these people are. They were the biggest protagonists for a huge white elephant that will NEVER deliver the promises. A few families and local businesses have and are already benefitting - the fact you don't know who they are says it all.[/p][/quote]I'm amazingly sane. The problem still comes back to a small number of stick in the muds who want to belive that somehow IPACA has really deep pockets and is able to pay off all and sundry. I've been following this since the start - I can't see any evidence of corruption. Come back with facts rather than vague accusations and I might take you seriously. It will deliver - its going to brilliant, I can't wait for my kids to move there. Before you ask, I do live in Southwell and i'm still happy. :-)[/p][/quote]i think you will find its a large number of so called "stick in the muds" yet with all the "anti" posts you still cannot see you are in the minority group youngpete
  • Score: 12

1:47pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Bollard says...

Portland Frankie wrote:
Saund65 wrote:
Portland Frankie wrote:
Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus.
Are you insane? Why would anyone name someone personally on here? Everyone who has followed this process from the start (7 years ago) know who these people are. They were the biggest protagonists for a huge white elephant that will NEVER deliver the promises. A few families and local businesses have and are already benefitting - the fact you don't know who they are says it all.
I'm amazingly sane. The problem still comes back to a small number of stick in the muds who want to belive that somehow IPACA has really deep pockets and is able to pay off all and sundry. I've been following this since the start - I can't see any evidence of corruption. Come back with facts rather than vague accusations and I might take you seriously. It will deliver - its going to brilliant, I can't wait for my kids to move there. Before you ask, I do live in Southwell and i'm still happy. :-)
I think you have just summed the reason for your position. You live in Southwell. I'm alright jack because the school is on my doorstep. Very selfish.
[quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saund65[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Portland Frankie[/bold] wrote: Still waiting for someone to name names. Reason you can't is because you are making it up. The day the councillors voted against it was the day democracy died. I support Maritime House as an IPACA campus.[/p][/quote]Are you insane? Why would anyone name someone personally on here? Everyone who has followed this process from the start (7 years ago) know who these people are. They were the biggest protagonists for a huge white elephant that will NEVER deliver the promises. A few families and local businesses have and are already benefitting - the fact you don't know who they are says it all.[/p][/quote]I'm amazingly sane. The problem still comes back to a small number of stick in the muds who want to belive that somehow IPACA has really deep pockets and is able to pay off all and sundry. I've been following this since the start - I can't see any evidence of corruption. Come back with facts rather than vague accusations and I might take you seriously. It will deliver - its going to brilliant, I can't wait for my kids to move there. Before you ask, I do live in Southwell and i'm still happy. :-)[/p][/quote]I think you have just summed the reason for your position. You live in Southwell. I'm alright jack because the school is on my doorstep. Very selfish. Bollard
  • Score: 14

1:51pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Bollard says...

Seb Baker wrote:
This is not about corruption - it's government policy. In 2011 the Planning Minister Greg Clark announced that - under the Tories' "bonfire of red tape" - planning restrictions would be eased to allow more development to promote growth. The UK planning system is now weighted firmly in favour of developers. This decision was therefore inevitable - the Planning Inspector was bound to overturn the original decision as there were insufficient grounds for refusal under new government planning guidelines. It is true for this application, it was true for Curtis Fields... I wonder how much W&PBC has now spent on unsuccessfully defending planning decisions made against applications, when clearly they were always going to fall within the now relaxed rules. If you don't like the decision, don't blame the Inspector - their job is just to interpret the law - blame the government that made developments like this easier.
Very well summed up. This application was going to get passed no matter what. And as a result the future children of Portland will suffer for decades to come.
As someone who is thinking of moving off the island, this will definitely influence our decision.
[quote][p][bold]Seb Baker[/bold] wrote: This is not about corruption - it's government policy. In 2011 the Planning Minister Greg Clark announced that - under the Tories' "bonfire of red tape" - planning restrictions would be eased to allow more development to promote growth. The UK planning system is now weighted firmly in favour of developers. This decision was therefore inevitable - the Planning Inspector was bound to overturn the original decision as there were insufficient grounds for refusal under new government planning guidelines. It is true for this application, it was true for Curtis Fields... I wonder how much W&PBC has now spent on unsuccessfully defending planning decisions made against applications, when clearly they were always going to fall within the now relaxed rules. If you don't like the decision, don't blame the Inspector - their job is just to interpret the law - blame the government that made developments like this easier.[/p][/quote]Very well summed up. This application was going to get passed no matter what. And as a result the future children of Portland will suffer for decades to come. As someone who is thinking of moving off the island, this will definitely influence our decision. Bollard
  • Score: 11

5:41pm Sat 12 Apr 14

penmick says...

This is a sad day for localism, the majority of Portland is against a move to Southwell regardless what others say, we want top class education but not in a second class building, those living in Underhill with children are concerned about the journey and rightly so, what about the land of the old school, I have heard ripe for development of housing and the playing field will be housed over as well. I can only imagine our local councillors getting upset over that housing development proposal. Bound to be another lot of expensive property that locals can not afford, concrete over more green fields. I see a campaign ahead. Money talks, this council can not afford an appeal, so we are stuck with a decision made by non locals, in London, were is our democracy
This is a sad day for localism, the majority of Portland is against a move to Southwell regardless what others say, we want top class education but not in a second class building, those living in Underhill with children are concerned about the journey and rightly so, what about the land of the old school, I have heard ripe for development of housing and the playing field will be housed over as well. I can only imagine our local councillors getting upset over that housing development proposal. Bound to be another lot of expensive property that locals can not afford, concrete over more green fields. I see a campaign ahead. Money talks, this council can not afford an appeal, so we are stuck with a decision made by non locals, in London, were is our democracy penmick
  • Score: 6

6:29pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: 0

9:54pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Noidear says...

Nothing makes sense anymore. Everything council or government is a mess, as the advert said. Got to have bubbly for t.he shareholders Christmas party?
Nothing makes sense anymore. Everything council or government is a mess, as the advert said. Got to have bubbly for t.he shareholders Christmas party? Noidear
  • Score: -1

9:59pm Sat 12 Apr 14

portland6 says...

penmick wrote:
This is a sad day for localism, the majority of Portland is against a move to Southwell regardless what others say, we want top class education but not in a second class building, those living in Underhill with children are concerned about the journey and rightly so, what about the land of the old school, I have heard ripe for development of housing and the playing field will be housed over as well. I can only imagine our local councillors getting upset over that housing development proposal. Bound to be another lot of expensive property that locals can not afford, concrete over more green fields. I see a campaign ahead. Money talks, this council can not afford an appeal, so we are stuck with a decision made by non locals, in London, were is our democracy
Well, I live in Underhill and I'm delighted. It's about time my children were able to access great facilities, stage-not-age and Chromebooks alongside the majority of the primary phase - which is already out at Southwell. Underhill's falling down, for goodness sake, and because of government budgets, not because the school has been in any way negligent. Assertions that "the majority" don't want this are, and always have been, arrogant - in my experience, there are vocal extremes whilst the ACTUAL majority aren't bothered. Look how many people turned up at the precept meeting compared to the, what, 9 that turned up to academy protests. And the island is 5 miles across at its widest point; children who have to cross major cities to get to their 4th choice school would laugh at the idea that Southwell is some epic journey. And what is built on the old site is an entirely separate planning decision, which will be dealt with by the Council you all say are so democratic.Campaign against that, not against the school that has so far delivered Portland's best ever results!
[quote][p][bold]penmick[/bold] wrote: This is a sad day for localism, the majority of Portland is against a move to Southwell regardless what others say, we want top class education but not in a second class building, those living in Underhill with children are concerned about the journey and rightly so, what about the land of the old school, I have heard ripe for development of housing and the playing field will be housed over as well. I can only imagine our local councillors getting upset over that housing development proposal. Bound to be another lot of expensive property that locals can not afford, concrete over more green fields. I see a campaign ahead. Money talks, this council can not afford an appeal, so we are stuck with a decision made by non locals, in London, were is our democracy[/p][/quote]Well, I live in Underhill and I'm delighted. It's about time my children were able to access great facilities, stage-not-age and Chromebooks alongside the majority of the primary phase - which is already out at Southwell. Underhill's falling down, for goodness sake, and because of government budgets, not because the school has been in any way negligent. Assertions that "the majority" don't want this are, and always have been, arrogant - in my experience, there are vocal extremes whilst the ACTUAL majority aren't bothered. Look how many people turned up at the precept meeting compared to the, what, 9 that turned up to academy protests. And the island is 5 miles across at its widest point; children who have to cross major cities to get to their 4th choice school would laugh at the idea that Southwell is some epic journey. And what is built on the old site is an entirely separate planning decision, which will be dealt with by the Council you all say are so democratic.Campaign against that, not against the school that has so far delivered Portland's best ever results! portland6
  • Score: -1

10:53pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Rocksalt says...

Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
[quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money. Rocksalt
  • Score: -3

12:42am Sun 13 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

£14 million to play with eh? If St Aldhelms in Poole is anything to go by the Eastern Europeans must be rubbing their hands with glee.
£14 million to play with eh? If St Aldhelms in Poole is anything to go by the Eastern Europeans must be rubbing their hands with glee. breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

10:20am Sun 13 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Rocksalt wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
Probably the huge masses of cars outside every school every day?
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.[/p][/quote]Probably the huge masses of cars outside every school every day? Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: 2

11:46am Sun 13 Apr 14

Weston7 says...

Rocksalt wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.[/p][/quote]Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now. Weston7
  • Score: 5

7:46pm Sun 13 Apr 14

portland6 says...

Weston7 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.
The school is within walking distance as defined by the government for the majority of students, and many will actually be nearer when it moves. If lazy parents and students needlessly drive, that's hardly the school's fault. Oh, and many primary school students are already bused from Osprey Quay to Southwell to Underhill every day - so painlessly that I bet many locals haven't even noticed!
[quote][p][bold]Weston7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.[/p][/quote]Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.[/p][/quote]The school is within walking distance as defined by the government for the majority of students, and many will actually be nearer when it moves. If lazy parents and students needlessly drive, that's hardly the school's fault. Oh, and many primary school students are already bused from Osprey Quay to Southwell to Underhill every day - so painlessly that I bet many locals haven't even noticed! portland6
  • Score: 4

8:52pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Rocksalt says...

portland6 wrote:
Weston7 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.
The school is within walking distance as defined by the government for the majority of students, and many will actually be nearer when it moves. If lazy parents and students needlessly drive, that's hardly the school's fault. Oh, and many primary school students are already bused from Osprey Quay to Southwell to Underhill every day - so painlessly that I bet many locals haven't even noticed!
I don't think that students being less than thrilled at walking 3 miles each way necessarily makes them lazy. Do you make a 6 mile round trip each dayon foot each day ?
[quote][p][bold]portland6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weston7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.[/p][/quote]Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.[/p][/quote]The school is within walking distance as defined by the government for the majority of students, and many will actually be nearer when it moves. If lazy parents and students needlessly drive, that's hardly the school's fault. Oh, and many primary school students are already bused from Osprey Quay to Southwell to Underhill every day - so painlessly that I bet many locals haven't even noticed![/p][/quote]I don't think that students being less than thrilled at walking 3 miles each way necessarily makes them lazy. Do you make a 6 mile round trip each dayon foot each day ? Rocksalt
  • Score: 5

9:02pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Rocksalt says...

Weston7 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.
Average car ownership is fairly meaningless in this context. The primary issue would be car ownership in a) Underhill and b) parents with young children. As far as I can see, the majority of children do walk to Royal Manor at present. Walking to Southwell is an entirely different prospect. As you suggest, it will be interesting to see if promises are fulfilled. The current arrangements for getting the young children to Osprey Quay seem haphazard.

For what its worth I don't necessarily have an issue with the move to Southwell, but nor do I think that parents needs meekly fall in line. If IPACA doesn't live up to its own hype then if I were a parent in Underhill I would.look to send my child to school in Wyke or Weymouth.
[quote][p][bold]Weston7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.[/p][/quote]Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.[/p][/quote]Average car ownership is fairly meaningless in this context. The primary issue would be car ownership in a) Underhill and b) parents with young children. As far as I can see, the majority of children do walk to Royal Manor at present. Walking to Southwell is an entirely different prospect. As you suggest, it will be interesting to see if promises are fulfilled. The current arrangements for getting the young children to Osprey Quay seem haphazard. For what its worth I don't necessarily have an issue with the move to Southwell, but nor do I think that parents needs meekly fall in line. If IPACA doesn't live up to its own hype then if I were a parent in Underhill I would.look to send my child to school in Wyke or Weymouth. Rocksalt
  • Score: 0

11:36pm Sun 13 Apr 14

portland6 says...

Rocksalt wrote:
portland6 wrote:
Weston7 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.
The school is within walking distance as defined by the government for the majority of students, and many will actually be nearer when it moves. If lazy parents and students needlessly drive, that's hardly the school's fault. Oh, and many primary school students are already bused from Osprey Quay to Southwell to Underhill every day - so painlessly that I bet many locals haven't even noticed!
I don't think that students being less than thrilled at walking 3 miles each way necessarily makes them lazy. Do you make a 6 mile round trip each dayon foot each day ?
It's not 6 miles, though. Look on a map; pretty much the only starting point from Tophill that is 3 miles away is the Heights. By Easton Square, you're 2 miles away. Some children walk from Southwell to Royal Manor now, and the journey is just being reversed for many students. There's already a free bus service from Underhill. I shouldn't have used the word "lazy", but if all the students drive, "it's in Southwell" simply isn't a good enough excuse!
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portland6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weston7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.[/p][/quote]Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.[/p][/quote]The school is within walking distance as defined by the government for the majority of students, and many will actually be nearer when it moves. If lazy parents and students needlessly drive, that's hardly the school's fault. Oh, and many primary school students are already bused from Osprey Quay to Southwell to Underhill every day - so painlessly that I bet many locals haven't even noticed![/p][/quote]I don't think that students being less than thrilled at walking 3 miles each way necessarily makes them lazy. Do you make a 6 mile round trip each dayon foot each day ?[/p][/quote]It's not 6 miles, though. Look on a map; pretty much the only starting point from Tophill that is 3 miles away is the Heights. By Easton Square, you're 2 miles away. Some children walk from Southwell to Royal Manor now, and the journey is just being reversed for many students. There's already a free bus service from Underhill. I shouldn't have used the word "lazy", but if all the students drive, "it's in Southwell" simply isn't a good enough excuse! portland6
  • Score: -1

9:00am Mon 14 Apr 14

Rocksalt says...

portland6 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
portland6 wrote:
Weston7 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.
The school is within walking distance as defined by the government for the majority of students, and many will actually be nearer when it moves. If lazy parents and students needlessly drive, that's hardly the school's fault. Oh, and many primary school students are already bused from Osprey Quay to Southwell to Underhill every day - so painlessly that I bet many locals haven't even noticed!
I don't think that students being less than thrilled at walking 3 miles each way necessarily makes them lazy. Do you make a 6 mile round trip each dayon foot each day ?
It's not 6 miles, though. Look on a map; pretty much the only starting point from Tophill that is 3 miles away is the Heights. By Easton Square, you're 2 miles away. Some children walk from Southwell to Royal Manor now, and the journey is just being reversed for many students. There's already a free bus service from Underhill. I shouldn't have used the word "lazy", but if all the students drive, "it's in Southwell" simply isn't a good enough excuse!
Well, it it's two miles to Easton Square then I can only assume it's 2.5 miles or more from The Grove, but let's not split hairs. Ultimately, I agree with you that Southwell isn't that far from most of Easton and all of Weston.

When I think about it, I suppose my hackles always go up when I hear talk about lazy parents and kids. Not that some at least aren't looking lazy, more that the accusation in my experience usually comes from men (mainly) who a) drive to work and all but live in their cars and b) talk a lot about how others should routinely walk significant distances ( whatever the weather) but seem reluctant to do so themselves.

If the children in Underhill get free bus travel then all well and good. That said, IPACA will need to really perform well, otherwise given that the kids have got to catch a bus anyway they might as well go to Wyke or Weymouth
[quote][p][bold]portland6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portland6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weston7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.[/p][/quote]Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.[/p][/quote]The school is within walking distance as defined by the government for the majority of students, and many will actually be nearer when it moves. If lazy parents and students needlessly drive, that's hardly the school's fault. Oh, and many primary school students are already bused from Osprey Quay to Southwell to Underhill every day - so painlessly that I bet many locals haven't even noticed![/p][/quote]I don't think that students being less than thrilled at walking 3 miles each way necessarily makes them lazy. Do you make a 6 mile round trip each dayon foot each day ?[/p][/quote]It's not 6 miles, though. Look on a map; pretty much the only starting point from Tophill that is 3 miles away is the Heights. By Easton Square, you're 2 miles away. Some children walk from Southwell to Royal Manor now, and the journey is just being reversed for many students. There's already a free bus service from Underhill. I shouldn't have used the word "lazy", but if all the students drive, "it's in Southwell" simply isn't a good enough excuse![/p][/quote]Well, it it's two miles to Easton Square then I can only assume it's 2.5 miles or more from The Grove, but let's not split hairs. Ultimately, I agree with you that Southwell isn't that far from most of Easton and all of Weston. When I think about it, I suppose my hackles always go up when I hear talk about lazy parents and kids. Not that some at least aren't looking lazy, more that the accusation in my experience usually comes from men (mainly) who a) drive to work and all but live in their cars and b) talk a lot about how others should routinely walk significant distances ( whatever the weather) but seem reluctant to do so themselves. If the children in Underhill get free bus travel then all well and good. That said, IPACA will need to really perform well, otherwise given that the kids have got to catch a bus anyway they might as well go to Wyke or Weymouth Rocksalt
  • Score: 3

12:37pm Mon 14 Apr 14

youngpete says...

The picture in the echo showing all those parents who fought so hard for the school to go ahead consists of about 30 adults & the rest made up of children who have been made to be there,well done ipaca what a result!!!! Is there going to be a photo opportunity for all the parents who feel this is not the right place for a school maybe taken outside the business park gates?????
The picture in the echo showing all those parents who fought so hard for the school to go ahead consists of about 30 adults [some from the same household & some staff no doubt] & the rest made up of children who have been made to be there,well done ipaca what a result!!!! Is there going to be a photo opportunity for all the parents who feel this is not the right place for a school maybe taken outside the business park gates????? youngpete
  • Score: 9

4:12pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Rocksalt says...

Weston7 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.
By the way, I thought that the census results published thus far only drill down to Borough level. If you have access to the figures broken down to ward level then I would be delighted if you could provide a link. In the absence of that then you will forgive me for thinking you have made up the statement about car ownership being similar in Portland, Wyke and Weymouth.
[quote][p][bold]Weston7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.[/p][/quote]Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.[/p][/quote]By the way, I thought that the census results published thus far only drill down to Borough level. If you have access to the figures broken down to ward level then I would be delighted if you could provide a link. In the absence of that then you will forgive me for thinking you have made up the statement about car ownership being similar in Portland, Wyke and Weymouth. Rocksalt
  • Score: -2

4:38pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Rocksalt says...

Rocksalt wrote:
Weston7 wrote:
Rocksalt wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.
It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement.

I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.
Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.
By the way, I thought that the census results published thus far only drill down to Borough level. If you have access to the figures broken down to ward level then I would be delighted if you could provide a link. In the absence of that then you will forgive me for thinking you have made up the statement about car ownership being similar in Portland, Wyke and Weymouth.
I owe Sigurd an apology. Census figures are available by Ward. That said, car ownership in Underhill at least is not close to the Borough average. 10% fewer households (33%) don't have a car. And 10% fewer (20%) have two cars. That is not 'broadly the same'
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Weston7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: ...because Portland is such a "massive continent" full of land mines and danger that walking ( lets face it most will be driving ) an extra mile or so is the end of the World.[/p][/quote]It isn't an immense distance. That said it is at least 3 miles from Underhill so not a trifle in the winter when the weather is at its most inclement. I couldn't say for certain whether the majority will arrive by car and I am not sure on what basis you feel that you can confidently announce that the vast majority will. I suspect that car ownership amongst people with children is rather lower on much of Portland than the average. Southwell itself is probably one of the few parts of Portland that bucks that trend. That's why the No1 bus is so frequent and, I understand one of the very few routes that makes money.[/p][/quote]Average car ownership on Portland is the same as most of Weymouth and Wyke (2011 census), but many factors point to more parents driving to the new school than at present. Now the final decision has been made we can only wait to see how many of the promises will be fulfilled; how many of the concerns will be proved correct. It will be VERY interesting to see how many children walk or cycle compared with now.[/p][/quote]By the way, I thought that the census results published thus far only drill down to Borough level. If you have access to the figures broken down to ward level then I would be delighted if you could provide a link. In the absence of that then you will forgive me for thinking you have made up the statement about car ownership being similar in Portland, Wyke and Weymouth.[/p][/quote]I owe Sigurd an apology. Census figures are available by Ward. That said, car ownership in Underhill at least is not close to the Borough average. 10% fewer households (33%) don't have a car. And 10% fewer (20%) have two cars. That is not 'broadly the same' Rocksalt
  • Score: 0

8:19pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Westwindblower says...

One thing I wondered will some of fortuneswell be in All Saints catchment area or will Royal Manor still be the catchment school. I would not think there is much difference in distances.
One thing I wondered will some of fortuneswell be in All Saints catchment area or will Royal Manor still be the catchment school. I would not think there is much difference in distances. Westwindblower
  • Score: 0

10:44pm Mon 14 Apr 14

portland6 says...

Rocksalt? I walk to work whenever I can, and walked over 2 miles to school as a youngster. youngpete, no more than 12 adults ever turned up to an anti protest; I haven't seen today's Echo, but 30 adults show you that more parents are for, I bet I'm in that photo, and I always ask my children if they support something before allowing them to be photographed; they are bright, and do understand. And from where I live in Underhill, I am still in the IPACA catchment, Westwindblower. It's actually interesting to look at catchments. It's amazing how many level 3 students from Wyke and Holy Trinity didn't go to church often enough to go to All Saints, but how many 6s and 7s did...
Rocksalt? I walk to work whenever I can, and walked over 2 miles to school as a youngster. youngpete, no more than 12 adults ever turned up to an anti protest; I haven't seen today's Echo, but 30 adults show you that more parents are for, I bet I'm in that photo, and I always ask my children if they support something before allowing them to be photographed; they are bright, and do understand. And from where I live in Underhill, I am still in the IPACA catchment, Westwindblower. It's actually interesting to look at catchments. It's amazing how many level 3 students from Wyke and Holy Trinity didn't go to church often enough to go to All Saints, but how many 6s and 7s did... portland6
  • Score: -4

10:53pm Mon 14 Apr 14

portland6 says...

Oh, and Rocksalt? The Grove closed last year as it was always going to. And is closer to Maritime House than the Heights. Seriously, look at a map!
Oh, and Rocksalt? The Grove closed last year as it was always going to. And is closer to Maritime House than the Heights. Seriously, look at a map! portland6
  • Score: -5

9:44am Tue 15 Apr 14

Nomalice says...

When you discover that the opinions of ordinary people matter not one iota.
When even elected councillors totally ignore the people who elected them.
When the planners welcomed decisions are so easily overturned .
When local opinion, devolved power, and indeed democracy becomes a sham.
It Makes you wonder if voting in local elections is worth the effort.
When you discover that the opinions of ordinary people matter not one iota. When even elected councillors totally ignore the people who elected them. When the planners welcomed decisions are so easily overturned . When local opinion, devolved power, and indeed democracy becomes a sham. It Makes you wonder if voting in local elections is worth the effort. Nomalice
  • Score: 4

11:58am Tue 15 Apr 14

DarioVerde says...

Now matter how you think this went ahead - it is the wrong thing to do. I worked at that god foresaken site for 5 years. It is totally unsuitable due to its exposure to the weather. And surely to convert a building to another purpose is just a compromise - not a purpose built building. I would love to see a game of football in the winter being played by 11 year olds up there, normally you can't stand up when the wind gets blowing. Also I think that there is a naivety in regards to the traffic. Most people will be driving their kids to school, it is what happens nowadays.
Now matter how you think this went ahead - it is the wrong thing to do. I worked at that god foresaken site for 5 years. It is totally unsuitable due to its exposure to the weather. And surely to convert a building to another purpose is just a compromise - not a purpose built building. I would love to see a game of football in the winter being played by 11 year olds up there, normally you can't stand up when the wind gets blowing. Also I think that there is a naivety in regards to the traffic. Most people will be driving their kids to school, it is what happens nowadays. DarioVerde
  • Score: 5

8:34pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Rocksalt says...

portland6 wrote:
Oh, and Rocksalt? The Grove closed last year as it was always going to. And is closer to Maritime House than the Heights. Seriously, look at a map!
I wouldn't dispute that the Grove is closer than The Heights. I was pointing out that it is another half mile further than Easton Square. Nor, was I referring to the school, but to the area, which I am led to believe is still inhabited.
[quote][p][bold]portland6[/bold] wrote: Oh, and Rocksalt? The Grove closed last year as it was always going to. And is closer to Maritime House than the Heights. Seriously, look at a map![/p][/quote]I wouldn't dispute that the Grove is closer than The Heights. I was pointing out that it is another half mile further than Easton Square. Nor, was I referring to the school, but to the area, which I am led to believe is still inhabited. Rocksalt
  • Score: 1

8:34pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Rocksalt says...

portland6 wrote:
Oh, and Rocksalt? The Grove closed last year as it was always going to. And is closer to Maritime House than the Heights. Seriously, look at a map!
I wouldn't dispute that the Grove is closer than The Heights. I was pointing out that it is another half mile further than Easton Square. Nor, was I referring to the school, but to the area, which I am led to believe is still inhabited.
[quote][p][bold]portland6[/bold] wrote: Oh, and Rocksalt? The Grove closed last year as it was always going to. And is closer to Maritime House than the Heights. Seriously, look at a map![/p][/quote]I wouldn't dispute that the Grove is closer than The Heights. I was pointing out that it is another half mile further than Easton Square. Nor, was I referring to the school, but to the area, which I am led to believe is still inhabited. Rocksalt
  • Score: 0

9:38pm Tue 15 Apr 14

portland rebel says...

another point has any one noticed the amount of cars parked in the grounds of the royal manor, are they all of a sudden going to start car sharing, if so why dont they do that already ? or do they in that case the transport plan is already proved to be BS,
Oh and another thing these fantastic chrome books, i know that a few of the teachers arnt teaching any more, they are just sitting back while the kids do the whole lesson on the books, with no teacher inter action, and a maths teacher that isnt, one class of kids refused to let him teach them because he was so hopeless.
another point has any one noticed the amount of cars parked in the grounds of the royal manor, are they all of a sudden going to start car sharing, if so why dont they do that already ? or do they in that case the transport plan is already proved to be BS, Oh and another thing these fantastic chrome books, i know that a few of the teachers arnt teaching any more, they are just sitting back while the kids do the whole lesson on the books, with no teacher inter action, and a maths teacher that isnt, one class of kids refused to let him teach them because he was so hopeless. portland rebel
  • Score: -2

8:04am Wed 16 Apr 14

PORTLAND12345 says...

portland rebel wrote:
another point has any one noticed the amount of cars parked in the grounds of the royal manor, are they all of a sudden going to start car sharing, if so why dont they do that already ? or do they in that case the transport plan is already proved to be BS,
Oh and another thing these fantastic chrome books, i know that a few of the teachers arnt teaching any more, they are just sitting back while the kids do the whole lesson on the books, with no teacher inter action, and a maths teacher that isnt, one class of kids refused to let him teach them because he was so hopeless.
As per usual people who can't even spell correctly are making unfounded poisonous lies on here.

Keep hiding behind your lies while the rest of us look forward to the move. IPACA has transformed GCSE results in one year, imagine what they will do with the new building.

I for one am one very excited parent.
[quote][p][bold]portland rebel[/bold] wrote: another point has any one noticed the amount of cars parked in the grounds of the royal manor, are they all of a sudden going to start car sharing, if so why dont they do that already ? or do they in that case the transport plan is already proved to be BS, Oh and another thing these fantastic chrome books, i know that a few of the teachers arnt teaching any more, they are just sitting back while the kids do the whole lesson on the books, with no teacher inter action, and a maths teacher that isnt, one class of kids refused to let him teach them because he was so hopeless.[/p][/quote]As per usual people who can't even spell correctly are making unfounded poisonous lies on here. Keep hiding behind your lies while the rest of us look forward to the move. IPACA has transformed GCSE results in one year, imagine what they will do with the new building. I for one am one very excited parent. PORTLAND12345
  • Score: -8

6:16pm Wed 16 Apr 14

portland rebel says...

PORTLAND12345 wrote:
portland rebel wrote:
another point has any one noticed the amount of cars parked in the grounds of the royal manor, are they all of a sudden going to start car sharing, if so why dont they do that already ? or do they in that case the transport plan is already proved to be BS,
Oh and another thing these fantastic chrome books, i know that a few of the teachers arnt teaching any more, they are just sitting back while the kids do the whole lesson on the books, with no teacher inter action, and a maths teacher that isnt, one class of kids refused to let him teach them because he was so hopeless.
As per usual people who can't even spell correctly are making unfounded poisonous lies on here.

Keep hiding behind your lies while the rest of us look forward to the move. IPACA has transformed GCSE results in one year, imagine what they will do with the new building.

I for one am one very excited parent.
1st i am not a liar.

2nd i can support what i have said.

3rd prove to me that the results while i agree where good how do you know it wasnt a blip for one year.

4th my spelling ! it may bother you, but as i have to type using a stick held between myy teeth as i cant use my hands, sorry to have to say this but like most of the so called ipaca supporters, you little thought for any one other than yourself.
[quote][p][bold]PORTLAND12345[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portland rebel[/bold] wrote: another point has any one noticed the amount of cars parked in the grounds of the royal manor, are they all of a sudden going to start car sharing, if so why dont they do that already ? or do they in that case the transport plan is already proved to be BS, Oh and another thing these fantastic chrome books, i know that a few of the teachers arnt teaching any more, they are just sitting back while the kids do the whole lesson on the books, with no teacher inter action, and a maths teacher that isnt, one class of kids refused to let him teach them because he was so hopeless.[/p][/quote]As per usual people who can't even spell correctly are making unfounded poisonous lies on here. Keep hiding behind your lies while the rest of us look forward to the move. IPACA has transformed GCSE results in one year, imagine what they will do with the new building. I for one am one very excited parent.[/p][/quote]1st i am not a liar. 2nd i can support what i have said. 3rd prove to me that the results while i agree where good how do you know it wasnt a blip for one year. 4th my spelling ! it may bother you, but as i have to type using a stick held between myy teeth as i cant use my hands, sorry to have to say this but like most of the so called ipaca supporters, you little thought for any one other than yourself. portland rebel
  • Score: 2

11:36pm Thu 17 Apr 14

quarryman101 says...

Last year's exam results were excellent and not down to IPACA but to the students, staff and 10 years worth of education.
I expect, like many schools where money was less of an object, IPACA played the GCSE game of multiple entries for subjects, something that Mr Gove has prevented from happening this year.
I am aware that some staff have left.
It could be the case that both the above could become excuses for any drop in results this summer.

Planning permission, as far as I can see, was a foregone conclusion as soon as the decision was taken from the island.

As with so many topics in this day and age, media spin and internet image can cloud or colour the reality of any situation.

I was bemused when the Aldridge Foundation broadened their horizons into educational establishments. I continue to be that way at the decisions to become 'stage not age' and the choice of location for the new school.
Last year's exam results were excellent and not down to IPACA but to the students, staff and 10 years worth of education. I expect, like many schools where money was less of an object, IPACA played the GCSE game of multiple entries for subjects, something that Mr Gove has prevented from happening this year. I am aware that some staff have left. It could be the case that both the above could become excuses for any drop in results this summer. Planning permission, as far as I can see, was a foregone conclusion as soon as the decision was taken from the island. As with so many topics in this day and age, media spin and internet image can cloud or colour the reality of any situation. I was bemused when the Aldridge Foundation broadened their horizons into educational establishments. I continue to be that way at the decisions to become 'stage not age' and the choice of location for the new school. quarryman101
  • Score: 7

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