Bold statement for the vegan cause

Dorset Echo: Lora Leigh, right, with a fellow vegan campaigner Lora Leigh, right, with a fellow vegan campaigner

A MODEL turned vegan campaigner from Dorchester made a bold statement in a St George’s Day pose to encourage people to stay away from meat.

Former Thomas Hardye School pupil Lora Leigh headed to the Tower of London where she joined a fellow campaigner in having her body painted like a Yeoman Warder’s uniform.

The vegan ‘Beefeater’ stood outside the tourist attraction with a sign reading ‘Beefeaters: No! Vegans: Yes, Please!’ PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) member Lora is hoping to encourage her ‘fellow citizens’ to kick their meat-eating habit for their health, the environment, animals and England.

The 25-year-old said: “As St George showed us, humans will go to extremes to save their own lives, but our nation’s addiction to the fatty flesh in burgers and bangers is hurting – not helping – England.

“We are here to let our fellow citizens know that vegans are, on average, ten to 20 pounds lighter than meat-eaters are – and since they’re not contributing to animal suffering, their consciences are lighter, too!”

To find out more about becoming a vegan or to order a vegan starter kit visit PETA.org.uk

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8:46am Wed 23 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out.
Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.
I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out. Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so. JamesYoung
  • Score: -24

9:20am Wed 23 Apr 14

wowfood says...

Although I support peoples rights to be vegan / vegetarian, I also support their right to remain silent about it. If you're vegan then go you, but please shut up about it. Thanks.

Also I'd have to subtract points (if there were any rewarded) for mentioning PETA, the organisation that spends more money on stunts and advertising than their actual cause. Not to mention the amount of animals in their shelters they euthanize rather than even attempting to find homes for (i believe it was in the region of 70%, can't remember). Sorry incredibly anti PETA. I would post the facts, but work firewall blocks many of the sites.
Although I support peoples rights to be vegan / vegetarian, I also support their right to remain silent about it. If you're vegan then go you, but please shut up about it. Thanks. Also I'd have to subtract points (if there were any rewarded) for mentioning PETA, the organisation that spends more money on stunts and advertising than their actual cause. Not to mention the amount of animals in their shelters they euthanize rather than even attempting to find homes for (i believe it was in the region of 70%, can't remember). Sorry incredibly anti PETA. I would post the facts, but work firewall blocks many of the sites. wowfood
  • Score: -12

9:57am Wed 23 Apr 14

chesilboy says...

Humans are meat eaters by evolution. The healthiest diet for a human is a balance of unprocessed whole natural foods including meat.

Citing burgers and sausages is not a valid anti-meat argument, they are simply 2 examples of heavily processed food. You left out crisps, confectionary, vegeburgers, and any vegan-safe ready meal.

As wowfood says, by all means be vegan, but please don't campaign against evolution. You could campaign against the proliferation of processed foods if you insist on going natural...
Humans are meat eaters by evolution. The healthiest diet for a human is a balance of unprocessed whole natural foods including meat. Citing burgers and sausages is not a valid anti-meat argument, they are simply 2 examples of heavily processed food. You left out crisps, confectionary, vegeburgers, and any vegan-safe ready meal. As wowfood says, by all means be vegan, but please don't campaign against evolution. You could campaign against the proliferation of processed foods if you insist on going natural... chesilboy
  • Score: -4

11:48am Wed 23 Apr 14

shy talk says...

I expect Beefeater Restaurants and Beefeater Gin. Are rubbing their hands with glee at some free advertising.
I expect Beefeater Restaurants and Beefeater Gin. Are rubbing their hands with glee at some free advertising. shy talk
  • Score: 11

1:14pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Oh look , Boobs.

......Next !
Oh look , Boobs. ......Next ! Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -22

1:29pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Dorset Boy says...

If your vegan that's all right, your choice. Just don't preach to me and I won't preach to you about eating meat.
If your vegan that's all right, your choice. Just don't preach to me and I won't preach to you about eating meat. Dorset Boy
  • Score: -14

1:34pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

wowfood wrote:
Although I support peoples rights to be vegan / vegetarian, I also support their right to remain silent about it. If you're vegan then go you, but please shut up about it. Thanks.

Also I'd have to subtract points (if there were any rewarded) for mentioning PETA, the organisation that spends more money on stunts and advertising than their actual cause. Not to mention the amount of animals in their shelters they euthanize rather than even attempting to find homes for (i believe it was in the region of 70%, can't remember). Sorry incredibly anti PETA. I would post the facts, but work firewall blocks many of the sites.
These you mean?

http://speakingofres
earch.com/2011/01/18
/where-do-petas-dona
tion-dollars-go/

http://www.petakills
animals.com/

What do you know, another load of hypocrites using charity and good causes for personal gain or political agenda, just like most of them do.
[quote][p][bold]wowfood[/bold] wrote: Although I support peoples rights to be vegan / vegetarian, I also support their right to remain silent about it. If you're vegan then go you, but please shut up about it. Thanks. Also I'd have to subtract points (if there were any rewarded) for mentioning PETA, the organisation that spends more money on stunts and advertising than their actual cause. Not to mention the amount of animals in their shelters they euthanize rather than even attempting to find homes for (i believe it was in the region of 70%, can't remember). Sorry incredibly anti PETA. I would post the facts, but work firewall blocks many of the sites.[/p][/quote]These you mean? http://speakingofres earch.com/2011/01/18 /where-do-petas-dona tion-dollars-go/ http://www.petakills animals.com/ What do you know, another load of hypocrites using charity and good causes for personal gain or political agenda, just like most of them do. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -17

4:37pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

As soon as I saw this item, I thought: Bet all the comments are anti-vegetarian and negative. Hey, I was right, surprise, surprise!! Once I used to hunt, preferring to eat healthy meat (Deer, Grey Squirrel and Duck), rather than the tasteless, hormone-laden PAP one sees so neatly packaged in all the supermarkets. Alright, I admit it, I was also a bit of a coward - I tried to avoid anything known to cause cancer, since I did not relish cardiovascular or colonic problems that come from corpse-munching, and for similar reasons I wouldn't touch white bread with a bargepole, since it's KNOWN to cause bowel cancer, and I've never found the prospect of spending the rest of my life attached to a colostomy bag particularly appealing. Once, when addressing some ignorant people throwing WHITE bread to the Ducks at Radipole Lake (ANY bread is harmful to birds, but white is the worst, as it holds NO nutrition, but makes the birds stop eating because they feel full) I met with rudeness, but after they left, a nearby man who had witnessed the exchange came over to me and said I was completely correct - that he had colonic cancer, and the doctors had put it down to eating white bread. Indeed, I am rather surprised that it is still legal to produce and market white bread..
But to return to our alleged carnivore status: it is true that we have long hunted Other Species for food. That much is historical fact. However, TRUE carnivores - whose job is to protect the Plant Kingdom from overgrazing/overbrow
sing - have a SHORT alimentary canal, or gut, if you prefer. Animals who were designed to eat more benign foods of the vegetable kind have a necessarily LONGER gut. There is a reason for this, and it has to do with cancer-causing toxins found in meat. Carnivores have short guts in order that the meat they have consumed exits the body in the optimally shortest time.
Quite apart from issues concerning our OWN welfare, and even if I were still a pretend-carnivore, I have seen enough appalling videos online to convince me that the way of the necrovore is ethically and morally indefensible. Pigs regularly go alive into scalding water, after being hit and kicked and otherwise abused by psycho slaughterhouse workers in the UK, Canada, US, Australia, and no doubt many other cuntries. Cows are often skinned alive whilst hanging upside-down by one leg, male calves who do not produce milk (obviously) have their heads smashed in with hammers, and many never even meet their mothers properly. In places where Horsemeat is acceptable, Horses regularly have their eyes hacked out with claw-hammers, so that they will stand still for slaughter, and even, quite likely, welcome it as deliverance from their agony. No, you may utter as many tasteless jokes as you wish about dead Animals and their meat, but it remains indefensible to be speciesist - and THAT is precisely what it is. I further note that you do not like to hear disparaging comments about those who make a living out of killing Other Species, on the land - OR in the sea.... Too bad !!
As others have remarked before me, to Animals, farms are their Auschwitz, and we clothed chimpanzees are their Devil -or Hitler....
As soon as I saw this item, I thought: Bet all the comments are anti-vegetarian and negative. Hey, I was right, surprise, surprise!! Once I used to hunt, preferring to eat healthy meat (Deer, Grey Squirrel and Duck), rather than the tasteless, hormone-laden PAP one sees so neatly packaged in all the supermarkets. Alright, I admit it, I was also a bit of a coward - I tried to avoid anything known to cause cancer, since I did not relish cardiovascular or colonic problems that come from corpse-munching, and for similar reasons I wouldn't touch white bread with a bargepole, since it's KNOWN to cause bowel cancer, and I've never found the prospect of spending the rest of my life attached to a colostomy bag particularly appealing. Once, when addressing some ignorant people throwing WHITE bread to the Ducks at Radipole Lake (ANY bread is harmful to birds, but white is the worst, as it holds NO nutrition, but makes the birds stop eating because they feel full) I met with rudeness, but after they left, a nearby man who had witnessed the exchange came over to me and said I was completely correct - that he had colonic cancer, and the doctors had put it down to eating white bread. Indeed, I am rather surprised that it is still legal to produce and market white bread.. But to return to our alleged carnivore status: it is true that we have long hunted Other Species for food. That much is historical fact. However, TRUE carnivores - whose job is to protect the Plant Kingdom from overgrazing/overbrow sing - have a SHORT alimentary canal, or gut, if you prefer. Animals who were designed to eat more benign foods of the vegetable kind have a necessarily LONGER gut. There is a reason for this, and it has to do with cancer-causing toxins found in meat. Carnivores have short guts in order that the meat they have consumed exits the body in the optimally shortest time. Quite apart from issues concerning our OWN welfare, and even if I were still a pretend-carnivore, I have seen enough appalling videos online to convince me that the way of the necrovore is ethically and morally indefensible. Pigs regularly go alive into scalding water, after being hit and kicked and otherwise abused by psycho slaughterhouse workers in the UK, Canada, US, Australia, and no doubt many other cuntries. Cows are often skinned alive whilst hanging upside-down by one leg, male calves who do not produce milk (obviously) have their heads smashed in with hammers, and many never even meet their mothers properly. In places where Horsemeat is acceptable, Horses regularly have their eyes hacked out with claw-hammers, so that they will stand still for slaughter, and even, quite likely, welcome it as deliverance from their agony. No, you may utter as many tasteless jokes as you wish about dead Animals and their meat, but it remains indefensible to be speciesist - and THAT is precisely what it is. I further note that you do not like to hear disparaging comments about those who make a living out of killing Other Species, on the land - OR in the sea.... Too bad !! As others have remarked before me, to Animals, farms are their Auschwitz, and we clothed chimpanzees are their Devil -or Hitler.... Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 3

4:46pm Wed 23 Apr 14

chesilboy says...

My comment isn't anti-vegetarian at all. It is against people who choose to try and change my normal way of life via the manipulation of information.
My comment isn't anti-vegetarian at all. It is against people who choose to try and change my normal way of life via the manipulation of information. chesilboy
  • Score: -17

4:51pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
As soon as I saw this item, I thought: Bet all the comments are anti-vegetarian and negative. Hey, I was right, surprise, surprise!! Once I used to hunt, preferring to eat healthy meat (Deer, Grey Squirrel and Duck), rather than the tasteless, hormone-laden PAP one sees so neatly packaged in all the supermarkets. Alright, I admit it, I was also a bit of a coward - I tried to avoid anything known to cause cancer, since I did not relish cardiovascular or colonic problems that come from corpse-munching, and for similar reasons I wouldn't touch white bread with a bargepole, since it's KNOWN to cause bowel cancer, and I've never found the prospect of spending the rest of my life attached to a colostomy bag particularly appealing. Once, when addressing some ignorant people throwing WHITE bread to the Ducks at Radipole Lake (ANY bread is harmful to birds, but white is the worst, as it holds NO nutrition, but makes the birds stop eating because they feel full) I met with rudeness, but after they left, a nearby man who had witnessed the exchange came over to me and said I was completely correct - that he had colonic cancer, and the doctors had put it down to eating white bread. Indeed, I am rather surprised that it is still legal to produce and market white bread..
But to return to our alleged carnivore status: it is true that we have long hunted Other Species for food. That much is historical fact. However, TRUE carnivores - whose job is to protect the Plant Kingdom from overgrazing/overbrow

sing - have a SHORT alimentary canal, or gut, if you prefer. Animals who were designed to eat more benign foods of the vegetable kind have a necessarily LONGER gut. There is a reason for this, and it has to do with cancer-causing toxins found in meat. Carnivores have short guts in order that the meat they have consumed exits the body in the optimally shortest time.
Quite apart from issues concerning our OWN welfare, and even if I were still a pretend-carnivore, I have seen enough appalling videos online to convince me that the way of the necrovore is ethically and morally indefensible. Pigs regularly go alive into scalding water, after being hit and kicked and otherwise abused by psycho slaughterhouse workers in the UK, Canada, US, Australia, and no doubt many other cuntries. Cows are often skinned alive whilst hanging upside-down by one leg, male calves who do not produce milk (obviously) have their heads smashed in with hammers, and many never even meet their mothers properly. In places where Horsemeat is acceptable, Horses regularly have their eyes hacked out with claw-hammers, so that they will stand still for slaughter, and even, quite likely, welcome it as deliverance from their agony. No, you may utter as many tasteless jokes as you wish about dead Animals and their meat, but it remains indefensible to be speciesist - and THAT is precisely what it is. I further note that you do not like to hear disparaging comments about those who make a living out of killing Other Species, on the land - OR in the sea.... Too bad !!
As others have remarked before me, to Animals, farms are their Auschwitz, and we clothed chimpanzees are their Devil -or Hitler....
" speciesist "

Oh Brother, yet another swivel-eyed card carrying propaganda spouting hyper -flatulent lettuce murderer.

....because the World ain't got enough of them.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: As soon as I saw this item, I thought: Bet all the comments are anti-vegetarian and negative. Hey, I was right, surprise, surprise!! Once I used to hunt, preferring to eat healthy meat (Deer, Grey Squirrel and Duck), rather than the tasteless, hormone-laden PAP one sees so neatly packaged in all the supermarkets. Alright, I admit it, I was also a bit of a coward - I tried to avoid anything known to cause cancer, since I did not relish cardiovascular or colonic problems that come from corpse-munching, and for similar reasons I wouldn't touch white bread with a bargepole, since it's KNOWN to cause bowel cancer, and I've never found the prospect of spending the rest of my life attached to a colostomy bag particularly appealing. Once, when addressing some ignorant people throwing WHITE bread to the Ducks at Radipole Lake (ANY bread is harmful to birds, but white is the worst, as it holds NO nutrition, but makes the birds stop eating because they feel full) I met with rudeness, but after they left, a nearby man who had witnessed the exchange came over to me and said I was completely correct - that he had colonic cancer, and the doctors had put it down to eating white bread. Indeed, I am rather surprised that it is still legal to produce and market white bread.. But to return to our alleged carnivore status: it is true that we have long hunted Other Species for food. That much is historical fact. However, TRUE carnivores - whose job is to protect the Plant Kingdom from overgrazing/overbrow sing - have a SHORT alimentary canal, or gut, if you prefer. Animals who were designed to eat more benign foods of the vegetable kind have a necessarily LONGER gut. There is a reason for this, and it has to do with cancer-causing toxins found in meat. Carnivores have short guts in order that the meat they have consumed exits the body in the optimally shortest time. Quite apart from issues concerning our OWN welfare, and even if I were still a pretend-carnivore, I have seen enough appalling videos online to convince me that the way of the necrovore is ethically and morally indefensible. Pigs regularly go alive into scalding water, after being hit and kicked and otherwise abused by psycho slaughterhouse workers in the UK, Canada, US, Australia, and no doubt many other cuntries. Cows are often skinned alive whilst hanging upside-down by one leg, male calves who do not produce milk (obviously) have their heads smashed in with hammers, and many never even meet their mothers properly. In places where Horsemeat is acceptable, Horses regularly have their eyes hacked out with claw-hammers, so that they will stand still for slaughter, and even, quite likely, welcome it as deliverance from their agony. No, you may utter as many tasteless jokes as you wish about dead Animals and their meat, but it remains indefensible to be speciesist - and THAT is precisely what it is. I further note that you do not like to hear disparaging comments about those who make a living out of killing Other Species, on the land - OR in the sea.... Too bad !! As others have remarked before me, to Animals, farms are their Auschwitz, and we clothed chimpanzees are their Devil -or Hitler....[/p][/quote]" speciesist " Oh Brother, yet another swivel-eyed card carrying propaganda spouting hyper -flatulent lettuce murderer. ....because the World ain't got enough of them. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -7

5:04pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Enjoy your colostomy bag, Numbnutz - and PLEASE remember not to whine TOO loudly when payback time comes, will you ??

The number of minus votes my post received is a LITTLE short of what I expected - but it's only been posted for five minutes yet !!

Obviously our dear readers (probably not a naturalist among them - but plenty, no doubt, who have seen the inside of a football stadium, which speaks for itself !!) are unable to look at another species, observe its five digits, its eyes, its brain, and see a fellow-voyager on the wonderful biotic enterprise that is life. No doubt too wrapped-up in their own pointless existence - but, as Kate Oatham was always telling me: You CAN'T educate PORK !! Heartless and soulless idiots will continue in their old way, no matter WHAT evidence you put before them....
Enjoy your colostomy bag, Numbnutz - and PLEASE remember not to whine TOO loudly when payback time comes, will you ?? The number of minus votes my post received is a LITTLE short of what I expected - but it's only been posted for five minutes yet !! Obviously our dear readers (probably not a naturalist among them - but plenty, no doubt, who have seen the inside of a football stadium, which speaks for itself !!) are unable to look at another species, observe its five digits, its eyes, its brain, and see a fellow-voyager on the wonderful biotic enterprise that is life. No doubt too wrapped-up in their own pointless existence - but, as Kate Oatham was always telling me: You CAN'T educate PORK !! Heartless and soulless idiots will continue in their old way, no matter WHAT evidence you put before them.... Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 4

5:15pm Wed 23 Apr 14

chesilboy says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Enjoy your colostomy bag, Numbnutz - and PLEASE remember not to whine TOO loudly when payback time comes, will you ?? The number of minus votes my post received is a LITTLE short of what I expected - but it's only been posted for five minutes yet !! Obviously our dear readers (probably not a naturalist among them - but plenty, no doubt, who have seen the inside of a football stadium, which speaks for itself !!) are unable to look at another species, observe its five digits, its eyes, its brain, and see a fellow-voyager on the wonderful biotic enterprise that is life. No doubt too wrapped-up in their own pointless existence - but, as Kate Oatham was always telling me: You CAN'T educate PORK !! Heartless and soulless idiots will continue in their old way, no matter WHAT evidence you put before them....
Somebody needs their account withdrawn....

You can't educate pork, but you can certainly eat it. It tastes great. :D
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Enjoy your colostomy bag, Numbnutz - and PLEASE remember not to whine TOO loudly when payback time comes, will you ?? The number of minus votes my post received is a LITTLE short of what I expected - but it's only been posted for five minutes yet !! Obviously our dear readers (probably not a naturalist among them - but plenty, no doubt, who have seen the inside of a football stadium, which speaks for itself !!) are unable to look at another species, observe its five digits, its eyes, its brain, and see a fellow-voyager on the wonderful biotic enterprise that is life. No doubt too wrapped-up in their own pointless existence - but, as Kate Oatham was always telling me: You CAN'T educate PORK !! Heartless and soulless idiots will continue in their old way, no matter WHAT evidence you put before them....[/p][/quote]Somebody needs their account withdrawn.... You can't educate pork, but you can certainly eat it. It tastes great. :D chesilboy
  • Score: -3

5:30pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

One of my favorite *downloads* is the photograph with the caption:
*I'm tired of this 'isn't humanity neat billshut.' We're a virus with shoes*

No good saying THAT to the likes of folks who make their sandwiches with white bread - and cut them straight across!!

Account withdrawn, eh?? Perhaps you should be where Goebbels and Himmler are - no?? They didn't like people speaking out for what they believed to be right, either. Come to that, they wouldn't have liked Leonardo *One day men will regard the murder of Animals the way they regard the murder of men* Da Vinci - but then, HE had a functional brain, foresight and a CONSCIENCE....
One of my favorite *downloads* is the photograph with the caption: *I'm tired of this 'isn't humanity neat billshut.' We're a virus with shoes* No good saying THAT to the likes of folks who make their sandwiches with white bread - and cut them straight across!! Account withdrawn, eh?? Perhaps you should be where Goebbels and Himmler are - no?? They didn't like people speaking out for what they believed to be right, either. Come to that, they wouldn't have liked Leonardo *One day men will regard the murder of Animals the way they regard the murder of men* Da Vinci - but then, HE had a functional brain, foresight and a CONSCIENCE.... Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 9

6:02pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Caption Sensible says...

The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again! Caption Sensible
  • Score: -9

6:26pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Frank F says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
As soon as I saw this item, I thought: Bet all the comments are anti-vegetarian and negative. Hey, I was right, surprise, surprise!! Once I used to hunt, preferring to eat healthy meat (Deer, Grey Squirrel and Duck), rather than the tasteless, hormone-laden PAP one sees so neatly packaged in all the supermarkets. Alright, I admit it, I was also a bit of a coward - I tried to avoid anything known to cause cancer, since I did not relish cardiovascular or colonic problems that come from corpse-munching, and for similar reasons I wouldn't touch white bread with a bargepole, since it's KNOWN to cause bowel cancer, and I've never found the prospect of spending the rest of my life attached to a colostomy bag particularly appealing. Once, when addressing some ignorant people throwing WHITE bread to the Ducks at Radipole Lake (ANY bread is harmful to birds, but white is the worst, as it holds NO nutrition, but makes the birds stop eating because they feel full) I met with rudeness, but after they left, a nearby man who had witnessed the exchange came over to me and said I was completely correct - that he had colonic cancer, and the doctors had put it down to eating white bread. Indeed, I am rather surprised that it is still legal to produce and market white bread..
But to return to our alleged carnivore status: it is true that we have long hunted Other Species for food. That much is historical fact. However, TRUE carnivores - whose job is to protect the Plant Kingdom from overgrazing/overbrow

sing - have a SHORT alimentary canal, or gut, if you prefer. Animals who were designed to eat more benign foods of the vegetable kind have a necessarily LONGER gut. There is a reason for this, and it has to do with cancer-causing toxins found in meat. Carnivores have short guts in order that the meat they have consumed exits the body in the optimally shortest time.
Quite apart from issues concerning our OWN welfare, and even if I were still a pretend-carnivore, I have seen enough appalling videos online to convince me that the way of the necrovore is ethically and morally indefensible. Pigs regularly go alive into scalding water, after being hit and kicked and otherwise abused by psycho slaughterhouse workers in the UK, Canada, US, Australia, and no doubt many other cuntries. Cows are often skinned alive whilst hanging upside-down by one leg, male calves who do not produce milk (obviously) have their heads smashed in with hammers, and many never even meet their mothers properly. In places where Horsemeat is acceptable, Horses regularly have their eyes hacked out with claw-hammers, so that they will stand still for slaughter, and even, quite likely, welcome it as deliverance from their agony. No, you may utter as many tasteless jokes as you wish about dead Animals and their meat, but it remains indefensible to be speciesist - and THAT is precisely what it is. I further note that you do not like to hear disparaging comments about those who make a living out of killing Other Species, on the land - OR in the sea.... Too bad !!
As others have remarked before me, to Animals, farms are their Auschwitz, and we clothed chimpanzees are their Devil -or Hitler....
What you are on about isn't about eating meat it's about how the animals get treated and that is a different matter. It is a persons choice to eat meat or veg or fish or dairy and no one group has the right to try to change another groups choice based on treatment of these animals prior to slaughtering.It is up to individual governments to legislate against cruel behaviour towards animals not the individual buying the product.
Calm down and have a cuppa tea ...........
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: As soon as I saw this item, I thought: Bet all the comments are anti-vegetarian and negative. Hey, I was right, surprise, surprise!! Once I used to hunt, preferring to eat healthy meat (Deer, Grey Squirrel and Duck), rather than the tasteless, hormone-laden PAP one sees so neatly packaged in all the supermarkets. Alright, I admit it, I was also a bit of a coward - I tried to avoid anything known to cause cancer, since I did not relish cardiovascular or colonic problems that come from corpse-munching, and for similar reasons I wouldn't touch white bread with a bargepole, since it's KNOWN to cause bowel cancer, and I've never found the prospect of spending the rest of my life attached to a colostomy bag particularly appealing. Once, when addressing some ignorant people throwing WHITE bread to the Ducks at Radipole Lake (ANY bread is harmful to birds, but white is the worst, as it holds NO nutrition, but makes the birds stop eating because they feel full) I met with rudeness, but after they left, a nearby man who had witnessed the exchange came over to me and said I was completely correct - that he had colonic cancer, and the doctors had put it down to eating white bread. Indeed, I am rather surprised that it is still legal to produce and market white bread.. But to return to our alleged carnivore status: it is true that we have long hunted Other Species for food. That much is historical fact. However, TRUE carnivores - whose job is to protect the Plant Kingdom from overgrazing/overbrow sing - have a SHORT alimentary canal, or gut, if you prefer. Animals who were designed to eat more benign foods of the vegetable kind have a necessarily LONGER gut. There is a reason for this, and it has to do with cancer-causing toxins found in meat. Carnivores have short guts in order that the meat they have consumed exits the body in the optimally shortest time. Quite apart from issues concerning our OWN welfare, and even if I were still a pretend-carnivore, I have seen enough appalling videos online to convince me that the way of the necrovore is ethically and morally indefensible. Pigs regularly go alive into scalding water, after being hit and kicked and otherwise abused by psycho slaughterhouse workers in the UK, Canada, US, Australia, and no doubt many other cuntries. Cows are often skinned alive whilst hanging upside-down by one leg, male calves who do not produce milk (obviously) have their heads smashed in with hammers, and many never even meet their mothers properly. In places where Horsemeat is acceptable, Horses regularly have their eyes hacked out with claw-hammers, so that they will stand still for slaughter, and even, quite likely, welcome it as deliverance from their agony. No, you may utter as many tasteless jokes as you wish about dead Animals and their meat, but it remains indefensible to be speciesist - and THAT is precisely what it is. I further note that you do not like to hear disparaging comments about those who make a living out of killing Other Species, on the land - OR in the sea.... Too bad !! As others have remarked before me, to Animals, farms are their Auschwitz, and we clothed chimpanzees are their Devil -or Hitler....[/p][/quote]What you are on about isn't about eating meat it's about how the animals get treated and that is a different matter. It is a persons choice to eat meat or veg or fish or dairy and no one group has the right to try to change another groups choice based on treatment of these animals prior to slaughtering.It is up to individual governments to legislate against cruel behaviour towards animals not the individual buying the product. Calm down and have a cuppa tea ........... Frank F
  • Score: -8

6:28pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Food comes from the GROUND - NOT a WOMB !!
Food comes from the GROUND - NOT a WOMB !! Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 5

6:29pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

According to an article on One Green Planet, the actor Ricky Gervais is "an ultimate animal lover" and even an advocate against animal cruelty.
Such claim is a very sad joke.
(http://www.onegreen
planet.org/news/why-
ricky-gervais-is-the
-ultimate-animal-lov
er/)

Ricky Gervais posts on his facebook and twitter photos of his own cats "pets" and talks about cruelty-free cosmetics, but we wouldn't define him the ultimate animal lover at all...
When it comes to his taste for animal flesh and dairy, he is just an ultimate animal hater.

In an interview on BON APPÉTIT (February 2014), Gervais boasts about his gourmand knowledge of cheese ("Now I’m a connoisseur").
http://www.bonappeti
t.com/people/celebri
ties/article/ricky-g
ervais-interview

Of course, our "animal lover" avoids mentioning the baby cows and their mothers killed and exploited in any dairy industry.

Gervais is keen on praising the Sunday roast ("the king of dinners")

Gervais has no problems with fish either ("That’s my favorite fish—the finger fish").

Ricky Gervais cashes in on the irrationality of loving an animal and sending another one to slaughter. It's popular and it guarantees more fans.
Gervais's irrationality and hypocrisy is really disturbing since he claims to be a rational person when it comes to atheism and gay rights.

He obviously doesn't give a **** about the victims of the meat/fish/dairy industry.
He obviously hides behind the ethical lie when he says "If I do eat meat, it’s got to be ethical. I want to know that it lived a great life before it was killed humanely." He would never say that if his own cat was the victim....
And, ultimately, when he tries to justifies himself by admitting he's a hypocrite that's not a valid justification: it just goes on top of all the other sad excuses not to change.

http://veganeasy.org
/
According to an article on One Green Planet, the actor Ricky Gervais is "an ultimate animal lover" and even an advocate against animal cruelty. Such claim is a very sad joke. (http://www.onegreen planet.org/news/why- ricky-gervais-is-the -ultimate-animal-lov er/) Ricky Gervais posts on his facebook and twitter photos of his own cats "pets" and talks about cruelty-free cosmetics, but we wouldn't define him the ultimate animal lover at all... When it comes to his taste for animal flesh and dairy, he is just an ultimate animal hater. In an interview on BON APPÉTIT (February 2014), Gervais boasts about his gourmand knowledge of cheese ("Now I’m a connoisseur"). http://www.bonappeti t.com/people/celebri ties/article/ricky-g ervais-interview Of course, our "animal lover" avoids mentioning the baby cows and their mothers killed and exploited in any dairy industry. Gervais is keen on praising the Sunday roast ("the king of dinners") Gervais has no problems with fish either ("That’s my favorite fish—the finger fish"). Ricky Gervais cashes in on the irrationality of loving an animal and sending another one to slaughter. It's popular and it guarantees more fans. Gervais's irrationality and hypocrisy is really disturbing since he claims to be a rational person when it comes to atheism and gay rights. He obviously doesn't give a **** about the victims of the meat/fish/dairy industry. He obviously hides behind the ethical lie when he says "If I do eat meat, it’s got to be ethical. I want to know that it lived a great life before it was killed humanely." He would never say that if his own cat was the victim.... And, ultimately, when he tries to justifies himself by admitting he's a hypocrite that's not a valid justification: it just goes on top of all the other sad excuses not to change. http://veganeasy.org / Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 4

6:33pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
According to an article on One Green Planet, the actor Ricky Gervais is "an ultimate animal lover" and even an advocate against animal cruelty.
Such claim is a very sad joke.
(http://www.onegreen

planet.org/news/why-

ricky-gervais-is-the

-ultimate-animal-lov

er/)

Ricky Gervais posts on his facebook and twitter photos of his own cats "pets" and talks about cruelty-free cosmetics, but we wouldn't define him the ultimate animal lover at all...
When it comes to his taste for animal flesh and dairy, he is just an ultimate animal hater.

In an interview on BON APPÉTIT (February 2014), Gervais boasts about his gourmand knowledge of cheese ("Now I’m a connoisseur").
http://www.bonappeti

t.com/people/celebri

ties/article/ricky-g

ervais-interview

Of course, our "animal lover" avoids mentioning the baby cows and their mothers killed and exploited in any dairy industry.

Gervais is keen on praising the Sunday roast ("the king of dinners")

Gervais has no problems with fish either ("That’s my favorite fish—the finger fish").

Ricky Gervais cashes in on the irrationality of loving an animal and sending another one to slaughter. It's popular and it guarantees more fans.
Gervais's irrationality and hypocrisy is really disturbing since he claims to be a rational person when it comes to atheism and gay rights.

He obviously doesn't give a **** about the victims of the meat/fish/dairy industry.
He obviously hides behind the ethical lie when he says "If I do eat meat, it’s got to be ethical. I want to know that it lived a great life before it was killed humanely." He would never say that if his own cat was the victim....
And, ultimately, when he tries to justifies himself by admitting he's a hypocrite that's not a valid justification: it just goes on top of all the other sad excuses not to change.

http://veganeasy.org

/
http://speakingofres

earch.com/2011/01/18

/where-do-petas-dona

tion-dollars-go/

http://www.petakills

animals.com/
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: According to an article on One Green Planet, the actor Ricky Gervais is "an ultimate animal lover" and even an advocate against animal cruelty. Such claim is a very sad joke. (http://www.onegreen planet.org/news/why- ricky-gervais-is-the -ultimate-animal-lov er/) Ricky Gervais posts on his facebook and twitter photos of his own cats "pets" and talks about cruelty-free cosmetics, but we wouldn't define him the ultimate animal lover at all... When it comes to his taste for animal flesh and dairy, he is just an ultimate animal hater. In an interview on BON APPÉTIT (February 2014), Gervais boasts about his gourmand knowledge of cheese ("Now I’m a connoisseur"). http://www.bonappeti t.com/people/celebri ties/article/ricky-g ervais-interview Of course, our "animal lover" avoids mentioning the baby cows and their mothers killed and exploited in any dairy industry. Gervais is keen on praising the Sunday roast ("the king of dinners") Gervais has no problems with fish either ("That’s my favorite fish—the finger fish"). Ricky Gervais cashes in on the irrationality of loving an animal and sending another one to slaughter. It's popular and it guarantees more fans. Gervais's irrationality and hypocrisy is really disturbing since he claims to be a rational person when it comes to atheism and gay rights. He obviously doesn't give a **** about the victims of the meat/fish/dairy industry. He obviously hides behind the ethical lie when he says "If I do eat meat, it’s got to be ethical. I want to know that it lived a great life before it was killed humanely." He would never say that if his own cat was the victim.... And, ultimately, when he tries to justifies himself by admitting he's a hypocrite that's not a valid justification: it just goes on top of all the other sad excuses not to change. http://veganeasy.org /[/p][/quote]http://speakingofres earch.com/2011/01/18 /where-do-petas-dona tion-dollars-go/ http://www.petakills animals.com/ Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -2

6:43pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

You obviously have a Beef, I think you should pork away at it. I'll give you a shoulder of Lamb to cry on when you realise you failed.

Lettuce reflect on that for a minute.
You obviously have a Beef, I think you should pork away at it. I'll give you a shoulder of Lamb to cry on when you realise you failed. Lettuce reflect on that for a minute. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -6

6:48pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

This was posted by one of my FB friends just minutes ago:

*
Patrizia Mocchi Veg shared CTV News's photo.
1 min ·
The veal industry is the tragic and cruel consequence of people's addiction to dairy.
Consuming dairy and meat makes you among the worst animal abusers. I am so fed up to hear people saying:"but people have got to eat", True, people have got to eat , but they also have a choice to eat without cruelty. But as always people will come out with a thousand excuses to justify their selfishness and lack of compassion.
I am a strong believer that if you expect compassion you must be able to feel it too.*

I would STRONGLY advise people to read, learn and inwardly digest Patrizia's last sentence - because that's exactly where I come from, too !!
This was posted by one of my FB friends just minutes ago: * Patrizia Mocchi Veg shared CTV News's photo. 1 min · The veal industry is the tragic and cruel consequence of people's addiction to dairy. Consuming dairy and meat makes you among the worst animal abusers. I am so fed up to hear people saying:"but people have got to eat", True, people have got to eat , but they also have a choice to eat without cruelty. But as always people will come out with a thousand excuses to justify their selfishness and lack of compassion. I am a strong believer that if you expect compassion you must be able to feel it too.* I would STRONGLY advise people to read, learn and inwardly digest Patrizia's last sentence - because that's exactly where I come from, too !! Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 5

6:51pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
This was posted by one of my FB friends just minutes ago:

*
Patrizia Mocchi Veg shared CTV News's photo.
1 min ·
The veal industry is the tragic and cruel consequence of people's addiction to dairy.
Consuming dairy and meat makes you among the worst animal abusers. I am so fed up to hear people saying:"but people have got to eat", True, people have got to eat , but they also have a choice to eat without cruelty. But as always people will come out with a thousand excuses to justify their selfishness and lack of compassion.
I am a strong believer that if you expect compassion you must be able to feel it too.*

I would STRONGLY advise people to read, learn and inwardly digest Patrizia's last sentence - because that's exactly where I come from, too !!
http://www.petakills
animals.com/
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: This was posted by one of my FB friends just minutes ago: * Patrizia Mocchi Veg shared CTV News's photo. 1 min · The veal industry is the tragic and cruel consequence of people's addiction to dairy. Consuming dairy and meat makes you among the worst animal abusers. I am so fed up to hear people saying:"but people have got to eat", True, people have got to eat , but they also have a choice to eat without cruelty. But as always people will come out with a thousand excuses to justify their selfishness and lack of compassion. I am a strong believer that if you expect compassion you must be able to feel it too.* I would STRONGLY advise people to read, learn and inwardly digest Patrizia's last sentence - because that's exactly where I come from, too !![/p][/quote]http://www.petakills animals.com/ Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -2

7:08pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Caption Sensible wrote:
The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet..
Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....
[quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again![/p][/quote]Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try.... Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 5

7:31pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote:
The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet..
Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....
If you hate humanity so much, I suggest you either seek help or set an example as a person with courage of conviction and kill yourself. After all if you thin k we humans are so vile and disgusting...why are you even here?
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again![/p][/quote]Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....[/p][/quote]If you hate humanity so much, I suggest you either seek help or set an example as a person with courage of conviction and kill yourself. After all if you thin k we humans are so vile and disgusting...why are you even here? Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -9

7:41pm Wed 23 Apr 14

westbaywonder says...

Obviously have no self respect for themselves just a,pair of stupid girls.
If we were at war and there was no food only dog meat,they would eat it to survive believe me!
More namby pamby rubbish filling your kids heads citizens!
It is people like this that are actually doing harm to England by putting deluded ideas into kids heads.
Obviously have no self respect for themselves just a,pair of stupid girls. If we were at war and there was no food only dog meat,they would eat it to survive believe me! More namby pamby rubbish filling your kids heads citizens! It is people like this that are actually doing harm to England by putting deluded ideas into kids heads. westbaywonder
  • Score: -5

7:44pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

westbaywonder wrote:
Obviously have no self respect for themselves just a,pair of stupid girls.
If we were at war and there was no food only dog meat,they would eat it to survive believe me!
More namby pamby rubbish filling your kids heads citizens!
It is people like this that are actually doing harm to England by putting deluded ideas into kids heads.
Well "it's all in the name" and in that regard and a quick Google shows us a 1000th rate nobody and a psuedo-soft **** nothing.

I bet they even got an , "official" website trying to make out they have any status and anyone would want to be them :-).
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: Obviously have no self respect for themselves just a,pair of stupid girls. If we were at war and there was no food only dog meat,they would eat it to survive believe me! More namby pamby rubbish filling your kids heads citizens! It is people like this that are actually doing harm to England by putting deluded ideas into kids heads.[/p][/quote]Well "it's all in the name" and in that regard and a quick Google shows us a 1000th rate nobody and a psuedo-soft **** nothing. I bet they even got an , "official" website trying to make out they have any status and anyone would want to be them :-). Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -7

8:45pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Not everyone likes me - but then, not everyone matters !!

And for those who suggest I depart this life NOW - I wouldn't be in TOO much of a hurry to see that happen, if I were you....

A hundred years from now, YOU will be forgotten - but a THOUSAND years from now (in the unlikely event that clothed chimps can survive that long an even GREATER plague than themselves - brought about by their own stupidity) I shall be remembered as someone who, above all others, educated her fellow accursed species to look at the world through different, universally-compassi
onate eyes - to be less anthropokentrik, less SELFISH and BIGOTTED. To regard Other Species as persons, just like ourselves, but who wear fur, feathers or scales and, perhaps crucially, happen to be unable to speak in any chimp languages. But they still love life, fear death and suffering, and mourn their dead - in a word, they are SENTIENT beings, and if you view them as less than that, then do not complain when you and yours are treated exactly the same..
And as for me hating hominids - there are vast ships hoovering up Krill from the Southern Oceans in 200 ton gulps. There are many ships doing this, and the Krill, as any fool should know, are ESSENTIAL food for Blue and other great whales. Deutsche Bank have pressured indonesia to trash their rainforests, condemning all their Wildlife, in order to produce palm oil. Negigrs hack the faces off live Rhino's, to sell the horns to backward and childishly superstitious vietnamese - you obviously haven't seen the videos online of a Rhino with its eyes, face, nose and horn all hacked away with machetes, so some would-be TORY can feed his 14 strong family. Untold BILLIONS of Animals horribly killed in long drift-nets and thrown back into the sea as *by-catch*. Would you like to be drowned, and then just dismissed as *by-catch, of no importance ??" No, I've only touched the very TIP of the iceberg here - to tell you of ALL (in)humanity's evil deeds would fill quite a few VERY thick volumes. You may sneer as much as you-all like, MY satisfaction comes from knowing I'm 100% right, as finer brains than yours have already acknowledged.
Here's an example: I'd gone into an off-licence for some table wine when I lived for a couple of years in Hammersmith & Fulham, around 1982. The storekeep was a fairly amiable and chatty sort, and pretty soon a lively discussion about chimps' evil deeds on planet Earth was under way. I said what I thought a few million of us Treehuggers ought to do about it when one man, who I'd already recognised as actor Patrick McGee, turned to me with quite a twinkle in his eye, and said: *You know, I feel SURE there must be something wrong with what you're saying - but, for the life of me, I can't see what it is !!* Unfortunately, I recently learned that he'd died that same summer - and it seems to me Earth lost a friend....
Not everyone likes me - but then, not everyone matters !! And for those who suggest I depart this life NOW - I wouldn't be in TOO much of a hurry to see that happen, if I were you.... A hundred years from now, YOU will be forgotten - but a THOUSAND years from now (in the unlikely event that clothed chimps can survive that long an even GREATER plague than themselves - brought about by their own stupidity) I shall be remembered as someone who, above all others, educated her fellow accursed species to look at the world through different, universally-compassi onate eyes - to be less anthropokentrik, less SELFISH and BIGOTTED. To regard Other Species as persons, just like ourselves, but who wear fur, feathers or scales and, perhaps crucially, happen to be unable to speak in any chimp languages. But they still love life, fear death and suffering, and mourn their dead - in a word, they are SENTIENT beings, and if you view them as less than that, then do not complain when you and yours are treated exactly the same.. And as for me hating hominids - there are vast ships hoovering up Krill from the Southern Oceans in 200 ton gulps. There are many ships doing this, and the Krill, as any fool should know, are ESSENTIAL food for Blue and other great whales. Deutsche Bank have pressured indonesia to trash their rainforests, condemning all their Wildlife, in order to produce palm oil. Negigrs hack the faces off live Rhino's, to sell the horns to backward and childishly superstitious vietnamese - you obviously haven't seen the videos online of a Rhino with its eyes, face, nose and horn all hacked away with machetes, so some would-be TORY can feed his 14 strong family. Untold BILLIONS of Animals horribly killed in long drift-nets and thrown back into the sea as *by-catch*. Would you like to be drowned, and then just dismissed as *by-catch, of no importance ??" No, I've only touched the very TIP of the iceberg here - to tell you of ALL (in)humanity's evil deeds would fill quite a few VERY thick volumes. You may sneer as much as you-all like, MY satisfaction comes from knowing I'm 100% right, as finer brains than yours have already acknowledged. Here's an example: I'd gone into an off-licence for some table wine when I lived for a couple of years in Hammersmith & Fulham, around 1982. The storekeep was a fairly amiable and chatty sort, and pretty soon a lively discussion about chimps' evil deeds on planet Earth was under way. I said what I thought a few million of us Treehuggers ought to do about it when one man, who I'd already recognised as actor Patrick McGee, turned to me with quite a twinkle in his eye, and said: *You know, I feel SURE there must be something wrong with what you're saying - but, for the life of me, I can't see what it is !!* Unfortunately, I recently learned that he'd died that same summer - and it seems to me Earth lost a friend.... Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 3

8:48pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Not everyone likes me - but then, not everyone matters !!

And for those who suggest I depart this life NOW - I wouldn't be in TOO much of a hurry to see that happen, if I were you....

A hundred years from now, YOU will be forgotten - but a THOUSAND years from now (in the unlikely event that clothed chimps can survive that long an even GREATER plague than themselves - brought about by their own stupidity) I shall be remembered as someone who, above all others, educated her fellow accursed species to look at the world through different, universally-compassi

onate eyes - to be less anthropokentrik, less SELFISH and BIGOTTED. To regard Other Species as persons, just like ourselves, but who wear fur, feathers or scales and, perhaps crucially, happen to be unable to speak in any chimp languages. But they still love life, fear death and suffering, and mourn their dead - in a word, they are SENTIENT beings, and if you view them as less than that, then do not complain when you and yours are treated exactly the same..
And as for me hating hominids - there are vast ships hoovering up Krill from the Southern Oceans in 200 ton gulps. There are many ships doing this, and the Krill, as any fool should know, are ESSENTIAL food for Blue and other great whales. Deutsche Bank have pressured indonesia to trash their rainforests, condemning all their Wildlife, in order to produce palm oil. Negigrs hack the faces off live Rhino's, to sell the horns to backward and childishly superstitious vietnamese - you obviously haven't seen the videos online of a Rhino with its eyes, face, nose and horn all hacked away with machetes, so some would-be TORY can feed his 14 strong family. Untold BILLIONS of Animals horribly killed in long drift-nets and thrown back into the sea as *by-catch*. Would you like to be drowned, and then just dismissed as *by-catch, of no importance ??" No, I've only touched the very TIP of the iceberg here - to tell you of ALL (in)humanity's evil deeds would fill quite a few VERY thick volumes. You may sneer as much as you-all like, MY satisfaction comes from knowing I'm 100% right, as finer brains than yours have already acknowledged.
Here's an example: I'd gone into an off-licence for some table wine when I lived for a couple of years in Hammersmith & Fulham, around 1982. The storekeep was a fairly amiable and chatty sort, and pretty soon a lively discussion about chimps' evil deeds on planet Earth was under way. I said what I thought a few million of us Treehuggers ought to do about it when one man, who I'd already recognised as actor Patrick McGee, turned to me with quite a twinkle in his eye, and said: *You know, I feel SURE there must be something wrong with what you're saying - but, for the life of me, I can't see what it is !!* Unfortunately, I recently learned that he'd died that same summer - and it seems to me Earth lost a friend....
You was the one hating humanity and wishing cancer on people, do you expect anything else back?

I could not even be bothered to read the rest of a failed pr0n star model supporting gibbering.....
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Not everyone likes me - but then, not everyone matters !! And for those who suggest I depart this life NOW - I wouldn't be in TOO much of a hurry to see that happen, if I were you.... A hundred years from now, YOU will be forgotten - but a THOUSAND years from now (in the unlikely event that clothed chimps can survive that long an even GREATER plague than themselves - brought about by their own stupidity) I shall be remembered as someone who, above all others, educated her fellow accursed species to look at the world through different, universally-compassi onate eyes - to be less anthropokentrik, less SELFISH and BIGOTTED. To regard Other Species as persons, just like ourselves, but who wear fur, feathers or scales and, perhaps crucially, happen to be unable to speak in any chimp languages. But they still love life, fear death and suffering, and mourn their dead - in a word, they are SENTIENT beings, and if you view them as less than that, then do not complain when you and yours are treated exactly the same.. And as for me hating hominids - there are vast ships hoovering up Krill from the Southern Oceans in 200 ton gulps. There are many ships doing this, and the Krill, as any fool should know, are ESSENTIAL food for Blue and other great whales. Deutsche Bank have pressured indonesia to trash their rainforests, condemning all their Wildlife, in order to produce palm oil. Negigrs hack the faces off live Rhino's, to sell the horns to backward and childishly superstitious vietnamese - you obviously haven't seen the videos online of a Rhino with its eyes, face, nose and horn all hacked away with machetes, so some would-be TORY can feed his 14 strong family. Untold BILLIONS of Animals horribly killed in long drift-nets and thrown back into the sea as *by-catch*. Would you like to be drowned, and then just dismissed as *by-catch, of no importance ??" No, I've only touched the very TIP of the iceberg here - to tell you of ALL (in)humanity's evil deeds would fill quite a few VERY thick volumes. You may sneer as much as you-all like, MY satisfaction comes from knowing I'm 100% right, as finer brains than yours have already acknowledged. Here's an example: I'd gone into an off-licence for some table wine when I lived for a couple of years in Hammersmith & Fulham, around 1982. The storekeep was a fairly amiable and chatty sort, and pretty soon a lively discussion about chimps' evil deeds on planet Earth was under way. I said what I thought a few million of us Treehuggers ought to do about it when one man, who I'd already recognised as actor Patrick McGee, turned to me with quite a twinkle in his eye, and said: *You know, I feel SURE there must be something wrong with what you're saying - but, for the life of me, I can't see what it is !!* Unfortunately, I recently learned that he'd died that same summer - and it seems to me Earth lost a friend....[/p][/quote]You was the one hating humanity and wishing cancer on people, do you expect anything else back? I could not even be bothered to read the rest of a failed pr0n star model supporting gibbering..... Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -9

8:54pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

http://speakingofres


earch.com/2011/01/18


/where-do-petas-dona


tion-dollars-go/

http://www.petakills


animals.com/


Don't trip up on your hypocrisy on the way out, will you.
http://speakingofres earch.com/2011/01/18 /where-do-petas-dona tion-dollars-go/ http://www.petakills animals.com/ Don't trip up on your hypocrisy on the way out, will you. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -3

8:58pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Why don't you enrol at Weymouth College, Sigurd the Dane - they'll teach you to speak English and express yourself a little more coherently !! 'Night !!
Why don't you enrol at Weymouth College, Sigurd the Dane - they'll teach you to speak English and express yourself a little more coherently !! 'Night !! Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 5

9:03pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Why don't you enrol at Weymouth College, Sigurd the Dane - they'll teach you to speak English and express yourself a little more coherently !! 'Night !!
So you end with shaming language and sarcasm while avoiding the facts presented to you using official documents and reason.

I expect nothing more from those of your calibre.

You lost.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Why don't you enrol at Weymouth College, Sigurd the Dane - they'll teach you to speak English and express yourself a little more coherently !! 'Night !![/p][/quote]So you end with shaming language and sarcasm while avoiding the facts presented to you using official documents and reason. I expect nothing more from those of your calibre. You lost. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -6

9:04pm Wed 23 Apr 14

marabout says...

A topless photo in the Echo? Whatever next?

Page 3 ?
A topless photo in the Echo? Whatever next? Page 3 ? marabout
  • Score: 0

9:06pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

P.S Sigur the Dane? WTF?

Care to tell me how you come to that conclusion...or does the intellectual challenge make you wan to have a kebab?
P.S Sigur the Dane? WTF? Care to tell me how you come to that conclusion...or does the intellectual challenge make you wan to have a kebab? Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -9

9:08pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

marabout wrote:
A topless photo in the Echo? Whatever next?

Page 3 ?
It's so much easier than merited journalism and proper documentary of fact.

In case of editorial lack of resource...add tits.
[quote][p][bold]marabout[/bold] wrote: A topless photo in the Echo? Whatever next? Page 3 ?[/p][/quote]It's so much easier than merited journalism and proper documentary of fact. In case of editorial lack of resource...add tits. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -9

9:10pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Sorry about all the uncomfortable truths I posted above - just checking to see whether there was any redeeming feature in Homo unsapiens !! There wasn't - but I TRIED !! I'll now go back to Farceybook, where most of the people THERE seem to have MORE brains than a rocking-Horse !! Goodnight, all you stumblebum yokels.... :D :D
Sorry about all the uncomfortable truths I posted above - just checking to see whether there was any redeeming feature in Homo unsapiens !! There wasn't - but I TRIED !! I'll now go back to Farceybook, where most of the people THERE seem to have MORE brains than a rocking-Horse !! Goodnight, all you stumblebum yokels.... :D :D Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 2

9:15pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Sorry about all the uncomfortable truths I posted above - just checking to see whether there was any redeeming feature in Homo unsapiens !! There wasn't - but I TRIED !! I'll now go back to Farceybook, where most of the people THERE seem to have MORE brains than a rocking-Horse !! Goodnight, all you stumblebum yokels.... :D :D
The only person uncomfortable around here is you, because your B.S completely failed and not one has backed you.

Personally, I'm having a blast tearing you up.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Sorry about all the uncomfortable truths I posted above - just checking to see whether there was any redeeming feature in Homo unsapiens !! There wasn't - but I TRIED !! I'll now go back to Farceybook, where most of the people THERE seem to have MORE brains than a rocking-Horse !! Goodnight, all you stumblebum yokels.... :D :D[/p][/quote]The only person uncomfortable around here is you, because your B.S completely failed and not one has backed you. Personally, I'm having a blast tearing you up. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -8

9:26pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

http://www.fedupusa.
org/wp-content/uploa
ds/2013/03/kitten-gu
n.jpg

...because it's all in the name of charity.

PETA: Killed 82% of all the animals they rescued in 2013...official!!

Now THERE is the real face of the majority of the 3rd sector for you.
http://www.fedupusa. org/wp-content/uploa ds/2013/03/kitten-gu n.jpg ...because it's all in the name of charity. PETA: Killed 82% of all the animals they rescued in 2013...official!! Now THERE is the real face of the majority of the 3rd sector for you. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -5

9:45pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

JamesYoung wrote:
I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out.
Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.
I think I'd not worry about the sofa, especially if it was rubbing the paint of. Can I say that in the echo forums?
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out. Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.[/p][/quote]I think I'd not worry about the sofa, especially if it was rubbing the paint of. Can I say that in the echo forums? Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 19

9:49pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out.
Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.
I think I'd not worry about the sofa, especially if it was rubbing the paint of. Can I say that in the echo forums?
After some Googling, anyone with self respect would not even entertain it.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out. Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.[/p][/quote]I think I'd not worry about the sofa, especially if it was rubbing the paint of. Can I say that in the echo forums?[/p][/quote]After some Googling, anyone with self respect would not even entertain it. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -8

9:58pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

Veganism, vegatarianism, great. If women are going to take their clothes off to promote it now fantastic. I might convert. If that's what veganism does for you it would keep me out of macdonalds for sure...
Veganism, vegatarianism, great. If women are going to take their clothes off to promote it now fantastic. I might convert. If that's what veganism does for you it would keep me out of macdonalds for sure... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 18

10:01pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out.
Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.
I think I'd not worry about the sofa, especially if it was rubbing the paint of. Can I say that in the echo forums?
After some Googling, anyone with self respect would not even entertain it.
Umm, we google peoples background when they appear in the echo now. Note to self - do not appear in echo about anything. I think they call it cyber stalking...
[quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out. Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.[/p][/quote]I think I'd not worry about the sofa, especially if it was rubbing the paint of. Can I say that in the echo forums?[/p][/quote]After some Googling, anyone with self respect would not even entertain it.[/p][/quote]Umm, we google peoples background when they appear in the echo now. Note to self - do not appear in echo about anything. I think they call it cyber stalking... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 5

10:06pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out.
Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.
I think I'd not worry about the sofa, especially if it was rubbing the paint of. Can I say that in the echo forums?
After some Googling, anyone with self respect would not even entertain it.
Umm, we google peoples background when they appear in the echo now. Note to self - do not appear in echo about anything. I think they call it cyber stalking...
Nope, its called people trying to call themselves something they are not....models pretending to be models when they are tenth rate soft pron crap are easily exposed. Googling someone is not cyber stalking. If it is then why have you not sued Google as an apologist or enabler?

You can call it what you like to try an engender a reaction...but people are starting to wise up to that kind of nonsense eh ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out. Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.[/p][/quote]I think I'd not worry about the sofa, especially if it was rubbing the paint of. Can I say that in the echo forums?[/p][/quote]After some Googling, anyone with self respect would not even entertain it.[/p][/quote]Umm, we google peoples background when they appear in the echo now. Note to self - do not appear in echo about anything. I think they call it cyber stalking...[/p][/quote]Nope, its called people trying to call themselves something they are not....models pretending to be models when they are tenth rate soft pron crap are easily exposed. Googling someone is not cyber stalking. If it is then why have you not sued Google as an apologist or enabler? You can call it what you like to try an engender a reaction...but people are starting to wise up to that kind of nonsense eh ;-) Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -4

10:11pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Yes parkstreetshuffle, when someone appears in the Echo , selling a bunch lies and propaganda to the public in the name of charity to make money and political profit based on a load of B.S and lies to the public

It is the absolute duty of anyone with credibility to rip it apart.

If you had a backbone, you would know that.
Yes parkstreetshuffle, when someone appears in the Echo , selling a bunch lies and propaganda to the public in the name of charity to make money and political profit based on a load of B.S and lies to the public It is the absolute duty of anyone with credibility to rip it apart. If you had a backbone, you would know that. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -8

10:26pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Sigurd is a danish (you know, the cuntry where raping Pigs and Dogs is LEGAL ??!! Check THAT one out, loser !!) or norse name. Perhaps your mother was a fan of the Vikings - clearly not your father, since you never met him !!
And on that note, I'll unfollow this thread and do something more constructive - like filing my fingernails. Goodnight to all you funders of Animal abuse, necrophages and twentieth-rate breeders.. ;-)
Sigurd is a danish (you know, the cuntry where raping Pigs and Dogs is LEGAL ??!! Check THAT one out, loser !!) or norse name. Perhaps your mother was a fan of the Vikings - clearly not your father, since you never met him !! And on that note, I'll unfollow this thread and do something more constructive - like filing my fingernails. Goodnight to all you funders of Animal abuse, necrophages and twentieth-rate breeders.. ;-) Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 2

10:36pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Sigurd is a danish (you know, the cuntry where raping Pigs and Dogs is LEGAL ??!! Check THAT one out, loser !!) or norse name. Perhaps your mother was a fan of the Vikings - clearly not your father, since you never met him !!
And on that note, I'll unfollow this thread and do something more constructive - like filing my fingernails. Goodnight to all you funders of Animal abuse, necrophages and twentieth-rate breeders.. ;-)
Keep going, I'm just lapping this crap up, even counting for the sheep, your still on a losing streak..you and your "meat"
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Sigurd is a danish (you know, the cuntry where raping Pigs and Dogs is LEGAL ??!! Check THAT one out, loser !!) or norse name. Perhaps your mother was a fan of the Vikings - clearly not your father, since you never met him !! And on that note, I'll unfollow this thread and do something more constructive - like filing my fingernails. Goodnight to all you funders of Animal abuse, necrophages and twentieth-rate breeders.. ;-)[/p][/quote]Keep going, I'm just lapping this crap up, even counting for the sheep, your still on a losing streak..you and your "meat" Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -9

10:48pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

So now in your ranting insanity you are calling all people from Denmark animal rapists even though it is completely irrelevant to the subject? ....oh please continue to unravel your psychology on us....PETA representative.

More tits please...it entertains the fools....
So now in your ranting insanity you are calling all people from Denmark animal rapists even though it is completely irrelevant to the subject? ....oh please continue to unravel your psychology on us....PETA representative. More tits please...it entertains the fools.... Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -9

10:49pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

" And on that note, I'll unfollow this thread and do something more constructive"

Get back 'ere you weak arse PETA ****......

you still got to explain the 82% of animals you killed !.
" And on that note, I'll unfollow this thread and do something more constructive" Get back 'ere you weak arse PETA ****...... you still got to explain the 82% of animals you killed !. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -4

11:25pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
So now in your ranting insanity you are calling all people from Denmark animal rapists even though it is completely irrelevant to the subject? ....oh please continue to unravel your psychology on us....PETA representative.

More tits please...it entertains the fools....
Have you fallen from a height on your head recently? Experienced dizzy spells? tunnel vision or nausea from sunlight?
[quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: So now in your ranting insanity you are calling all people from Denmark animal rapists even though it is completely irrelevant to the subject? ....oh please continue to unravel your psychology on us....PETA representative. More tits please...it entertains the fools....[/p][/quote]Have you fallen from a height on your head recently? Experienced dizzy spells? tunnel vision or nausea from sunlight? Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 7

2:13am Thu 24 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Allof those things, I should imagine, Parkstreetshuffle !! :D :D
Allof those things, I should imagine, Parkstreetshuffle !! :D :D Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 4

7:44am Thu 24 Apr 14

chesilboy says...

Dear echo,

As stated yesterday - I believe Harpya may need his account reviewed....
Dear echo, As stated yesterday - I believe Harpya may need his account reviewed.... chesilboy
  • Score: -6

8:37am Thu 24 Apr 14

NoSaint says...

I am all for the vegan cause but it is the hardcore militants who force their agenda down your throats that really annoy me. I got into an argument with a vegan who I used to work with as I used to have a pigs valve in my heart, their argument was that how is my life worth more than a pigs? Apparently my retort that I wasn't selectively bread but a dominant species over a long period of time to produce an animal who looks nothing like the wild counterpart. But I digress I believe you can be an animal lover and still eat meat and I also believe that meat is an important part in a healthy diet.
As for the PETA argument I keep reptiles so I'm not their biggest fan.
I am all for the vegan cause but it is the hardcore militants who force their agenda down your throats that really annoy me. I got into an argument with a vegan who I used to work with as I used to have a pigs valve in my heart, their argument was that how is my life worth more than a pigs? Apparently my retort that I wasn't selectively bread but a dominant species over a long period of time to produce an animal who looks nothing like the wild counterpart. But I digress I believe you can be an animal lover and still eat meat and I also believe that meat is an important part in a healthy diet. As for the PETA argument I keep reptiles so I'm not their biggest fan. NoSaint
  • Score: -4

8:56am Thu 24 Apr 14

IslandJim1 says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Food comes from the GROUND - NOT a WOMB !!
Try telling that to every carnivorous creature and plant on the planet...which btw apart from humans have no interest in the welfare of the animal their currently chasing down and mutilating. I'll pay good money to put you in a lion enclosure or drop you in a tank with a great white and see how your "education" goes down.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Food comes from the GROUND - NOT a WOMB !![/p][/quote]Try telling that to every carnivorous creature and plant on the planet...which btw apart from humans have no interest in the welfare of the animal their currently chasing down and mutilating. I'll pay good money to put you in a lion enclosure or drop you in a tank with a great white and see how your "education" goes down. IslandJim1
  • Score: -6

9:18am Thu 24 Apr 14

marabout says...

Ladies, Ladies.... Can we dispense with all of this Animal eating, Vegan claptrap rubbish and get back to the main topic of this thread....

This is the first time I have seen the Echo publish a topless photo. More importantly, can we look forward to more topless photos and especially from local girls.
Ladies, Ladies.... Can we dispense with all of this Animal eating, Vegan claptrap rubbish and get back to the main topic of this thread.... This is the first time I have seen the Echo publish a topless photo. More importantly, can we look forward to more topless photos and especially from local girls. marabout
  • Score: -21

12:06pm Thu 24 Apr 14

livid99 says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Food comes from the GROUND - NOT a WOMB !!
Chickens don't - they come from eggs, same as Hedgehogs.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Food comes from the GROUND - NOT a WOMB !![/p][/quote]Chickens don't - they come from eggs, same as Hedgehogs. livid99
  • Score: -6

12:28pm Thu 24 Apr 14

livid99 says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote:
The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet..
Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....
Do you have children ?
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again![/p][/quote]Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....[/p][/quote]Do you have children ? livid99
  • Score: -5

12:36pm Thu 24 Apr 14

marabout says...

livid99 wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....
Do you have children ?
Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary.
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again![/p][/quote]Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....[/p][/quote]Do you have children ?[/p][/quote]Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary. marabout
  • Score: -7

1:52pm Thu 24 Apr 14

NoSaint says...

marabout wrote:
Ladies, Ladies.... Can we dispense with all of this Animal eating, Vegan claptrap rubbish and get back to the main topic of this thread....

This is the first time I have seen the Echo publish a topless photo. More importantly, can we look forward to more topless photos and especially from local girls.
I'm sorry I missed the pic all together and I second this motion.
[quote][p][bold]marabout[/bold] wrote: Ladies, Ladies.... Can we dispense with all of this Animal eating, Vegan claptrap rubbish and get back to the main topic of this thread.... This is the first time I have seen the Echo publish a topless photo. More importantly, can we look forward to more topless photos and especially from local girls.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry I missed the pic all together and I second this motion. NoSaint
  • Score: -16

3:40pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

I thought the article was NOT about putting meat in front of people?
I thought the article was NOT about putting meat in front of people? Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -6

6:35pm Thu 24 Apr 14

woodsedge says...

Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
Oh look , Boobs.

......Next !
Talking about t**t's!
[quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: Oh look , Boobs. ......Next ![/p][/quote]Talking about t**t's! woodsedge
  • Score: -17

7:13pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Caption Sensible says...

Uara Porky Shin, put a sock in it!
Uara Porky Shin, put a sock in it! Caption Sensible
  • Score: -5

12:52am Fri 25 Apr 14

westbaywonder says...

JamesYoung wrote:
I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out.
Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.
Oh Yes,I can just see it now, be like inserting a sausage into a meat pasty ! LOL

Sorry i would not lower myself to even have one of these LAMB SKANKS over my door step!
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out. Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.[/p][/quote]Oh Yes,I can just see it now, be like inserting a sausage into a meat pasty ! LOL Sorry i would not lower myself to even have one of these LAMB SKANKS over my door step! westbaywonder
  • Score: -2

1:13am Fri 25 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

marabout wrote:
livid99 wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....
Do you have children ?
Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary.
NO - I've somehow managed to struggle through nearly 73 years without feeling the need for any hobbies that involve using a pram. Wouldn't know what the hell you're supposed to do with them, anyway - except, I suppose, to teach them to THINK for themselves, and therefore be totally unlike the lower classes of sheeple who write so much uninformed sarcasm on these pages. That apart, I'd FAR rather have a LIFE than offspring, any way you cut it.
As to the comment re the dictionary - I suppose you're alluding to my Germanic/Europan spelling?? Judas Priest-on-a-bicycle - Europans must think the silli-english are thick as the proverbial two short planks !! I prefer using a *K* instead of a *C* in many words because the original GREEK (or Latin) from which those words derive were spelt AND PRONOUNCED as a *K*, but silli-english saw fit to change *K* to *C*, and then,perversely, pronounce it as an *S* !! Examples: Kephalopod, Makedonia, Kinema, Kupros (*Cyprus*). And before any sarmtrase tries to tell me you're ANGLICISING foreign words, how come you NEVER do it with French, eh?? Anyone who mispronounces FRENCH words is an ignorant buffoon, in YOUR eyes, yet it's fine to childishly do it mit der Deutsche, Greek or Latin, Italiano or Espanol !! The number of times I yell at the radio: *TrAUma, Numbnutz !!* when they mispronounce it as *TRAWMA*. If you're going to flog a German word to death, at least pronounce it correctly - same goes for sAUna.. :D

Oh, by the way, I recently posted the following on Farceybook, which garnered a LOT of *Likes*: *I have the biggest family on Earth - Wildlife !!*

Have you-all noticed how the most attractive people always have the FEWEST offspring, whilst your excruciatingly plain Saxon, with typical misplaced conceit - AND selfishness (doesn't ONE fcuk-trophy give you enough misery ??) - abuses his/her privilege to spawn? I posted on FB an hour ago: *Steve McQueen famously said he'd rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on Earth.* - to which I'd add: *I'd rather wake up next to a Lynx, Snow Leopard or Jaguar than any chimp on the planet..*
Goodnight, sex-obsessed losers !!
[quote][p][bold]marabout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again![/p][/quote]Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....[/p][/quote]Do you have children ?[/p][/quote]Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary.[/p][/quote]NO - I've somehow managed to struggle through nearly 73 years without feeling the need for any hobbies that involve using a pram. Wouldn't know what the hell you're supposed to do with them, anyway - except, I suppose, to teach them to THINK for themselves, and therefore be totally unlike the lower classes of sheeple who write so much uninformed sarcasm on these pages. That apart, I'd FAR rather have a LIFE than offspring, any way you cut it. As to the comment re the dictionary - I suppose you're alluding to my Germanic/Europan spelling?? Judas Priest-on-a-bicycle - Europans must think the silli-english are thick as the proverbial two short planks !! I prefer using a *K* instead of a *C* in many words because the original GREEK (or Latin) from which those words derive were spelt AND PRONOUNCED as a *K*, but silli-english saw fit to change *K* to *C*, and then,perversely, pronounce it as an *S* !! Examples: Kephalopod, Makedonia, Kinema, Kupros (*Cyprus*). And before any sarmtrase tries to tell me you're ANGLICISING foreign words, how come you NEVER do it with French, eh?? Anyone who mispronounces FRENCH words is an ignorant buffoon, in YOUR eyes, yet it's fine to childishly do it mit der Deutsche, Greek or Latin, Italiano or Espanol !! The number of times I yell at the radio: *TrAUma, Numbnutz !!* when they mispronounce it as *TRAWMA*. If you're going to flog a German word to death, at least pronounce it correctly - same goes for sAUna.. :D Oh, by the way, I recently posted the following on Farceybook, which garnered a LOT of *Likes*: *I have the biggest family on Earth - Wildlife !!* Have you-all noticed how the most attractive people always have the FEWEST offspring, whilst your excruciatingly plain Saxon, with typical misplaced conceit - AND selfishness (doesn't ONE fcuk-trophy give you enough misery ??) - abuses his/her privilege to spawn? I posted on FB an hour ago: *Steve McQueen famously said he'd rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on Earth.* - to which I'd add: *I'd rather wake up next to a Lynx, Snow Leopard or Jaguar than any chimp on the planet..* Goodnight, sex-obsessed losers !! Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 0

1:15am Fri 25 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Remember, wimps: Once you are awakened, it's hard to go back to sheep !! G'night....
Remember, wimps: Once you are awakened, it's hard to go back to sheep !! G'night.... Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 2

3:13am Fri 25 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world..
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world.. Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 6

7:58am Fri 25 Apr 14

livid99 says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
marabout wrote:
livid99 wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....
Do you have children ?
Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary.
NO - I've somehow managed to struggle through nearly 73 years without feeling the need for any hobbies that involve using a pram. Wouldn't know what the hell you're supposed to do with them, anyway - except, I suppose, to teach them to THINK for themselves, and therefore be totally unlike the lower classes of sheeple who write so much uninformed sarcasm on these pages. That apart, I'd FAR rather have a LIFE than offspring, any way you cut it.
As to the comment re the dictionary - I suppose you're alluding to my Germanic/Europan spelling?? Judas Priest-on-a-bicycle - Europans must think the silli-english are thick as the proverbial two short planks !! I prefer using a *K* instead of a *C* in many words because the original GREEK (or Latin) from which those words derive were spelt AND PRONOUNCED as a *K*, but silli-english saw fit to change *K* to *C*, and then,perversely, pronounce it as an *S* !! Examples: Kephalopod, Makedonia, Kinema, Kupros (*Cyprus*). And before any sarmtrase tries to tell me you're ANGLICISING foreign words, how come you NEVER do it with French, eh?? Anyone who mispronounces FRENCH words is an ignorant buffoon, in YOUR eyes, yet it's fine to childishly do it mit der Deutsche, Greek or Latin, Italiano or Espanol !! The number of times I yell at the radio: *TrAUma, Numbnutz !!* when they mispronounce it as *TRAWMA*. If you're going to flog a German word to death, at least pronounce it correctly - same goes for sAUna.. :D

Oh, by the way, I recently posted the following on Farceybook, which garnered a LOT of *Likes*: *I have the biggest family on Earth - Wildlife !!*

Have you-all noticed how the most attractive people always have the FEWEST offspring, whilst your excruciatingly plain Saxon, with typical misplaced conceit - AND selfishness (doesn't ONE fcuk-trophy give you enough misery ??) - abuses his/her privilege to spawn? I posted on FB an hour ago: *Steve McQueen famously said he'd rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on Earth.* - to which I'd add: *I'd rather wake up next to a Lynx, Snow Leopard or Jaguar than any chimp on the planet..*
Goodnight, sex-obsessed losers !!
Ok... so you don't have children. Thanks for the answer. As for the rest of this....I have no idea how to respond.....
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marabout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again![/p][/quote]Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....[/p][/quote]Do you have children ?[/p][/quote]Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary.[/p][/quote]NO - I've somehow managed to struggle through nearly 73 years without feeling the need for any hobbies that involve using a pram. Wouldn't know what the hell you're supposed to do with them, anyway - except, I suppose, to teach them to THINK for themselves, and therefore be totally unlike the lower classes of sheeple who write so much uninformed sarcasm on these pages. That apart, I'd FAR rather have a LIFE than offspring, any way you cut it. As to the comment re the dictionary - I suppose you're alluding to my Germanic/Europan spelling?? Judas Priest-on-a-bicycle - Europans must think the silli-english are thick as the proverbial two short planks !! I prefer using a *K* instead of a *C* in many words because the original GREEK (or Latin) from which those words derive were spelt AND PRONOUNCED as a *K*, but silli-english saw fit to change *K* to *C*, and then,perversely, pronounce it as an *S* !! Examples: Kephalopod, Makedonia, Kinema, Kupros (*Cyprus*). And before any sarmtrase tries to tell me you're ANGLICISING foreign words, how come you NEVER do it with French, eh?? Anyone who mispronounces FRENCH words is an ignorant buffoon, in YOUR eyes, yet it's fine to childishly do it mit der Deutsche, Greek or Latin, Italiano or Espanol !! The number of times I yell at the radio: *TrAUma, Numbnutz !!* when they mispronounce it as *TRAWMA*. If you're going to flog a German word to death, at least pronounce it correctly - same goes for sAUna.. :D Oh, by the way, I recently posted the following on Farceybook, which garnered a LOT of *Likes*: *I have the biggest family on Earth - Wildlife !!* Have you-all noticed how the most attractive people always have the FEWEST offspring, whilst your excruciatingly plain Saxon, with typical misplaced conceit - AND selfishness (doesn't ONE fcuk-trophy give you enough misery ??) - abuses his/her privilege to spawn? I posted on FB an hour ago: *Steve McQueen famously said he'd rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on Earth.* - to which I'd add: *I'd rather wake up next to a Lynx, Snow Leopard or Jaguar than any chimp on the planet..* Goodnight, sex-obsessed losers !![/p][/quote]Ok... so you don't have children. Thanks for the answer. As for the rest of this....I have no idea how to respond..... livid99
  • Score: -5

9:29am Fri 25 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

westbaywonder wrote:
JamesYoung wrote:
I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out.
Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.
Oh Yes,I can just see it now, be like inserting a sausage into a meat pasty ! LOL

Sorry i would not lower myself to even have one of these LAMB SKANKS over my door step!
Here here.
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure the science is as clear cut as Lora makes out. Still, if she wants to pop around and discuss (without the paint - don't want it getting on the sofa) then i'd be happy to do so.[/p][/quote]Oh Yes,I can just see it now, be like inserting a sausage into a meat pasty ! LOL Sorry i would not lower myself to even have one of these LAMB SKANKS over my door step![/p][/quote]Here here. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -7

9:31am Fri 25 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

livid99 wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
marabout wrote:
livid99 wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....
Do you have children ?
Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary.
NO - I've somehow managed to struggle through nearly 73 years without feeling the need for any hobbies that involve using a pram. Wouldn't know what the hell you're supposed to do with them, anyway - except, I suppose, to teach them to THINK for themselves, and therefore be totally unlike the lower classes of sheeple who write so much uninformed sarcasm on these pages. That apart, I'd FAR rather have a LIFE than offspring, any way you cut it.
As to the comment re the dictionary - I suppose you're alluding to my Germanic/Europan spelling?? Judas Priest-on-a-bicycle - Europans must think the silli-english are thick as the proverbial two short planks !! I prefer using a *K* instead of a *C* in many words because the original GREEK (or Latin) from which those words derive were spelt AND PRONOUNCED as a *K*, but silli-english saw fit to change *K* to *C*, and then,perversely, pronounce it as an *S* !! Examples: Kephalopod, Makedonia, Kinema, Kupros (*Cyprus*). And before any sarmtrase tries to tell me you're ANGLICISING foreign words, how come you NEVER do it with French, eh?? Anyone who mispronounces FRENCH words is an ignorant buffoon, in YOUR eyes, yet it's fine to childishly do it mit der Deutsche, Greek or Latin, Italiano or Espanol !! The number of times I yell at the radio: *TrAUma, Numbnutz !!* when they mispronounce it as *TRAWMA*. If you're going to flog a German word to death, at least pronounce it correctly - same goes for sAUna.. :D

Oh, by the way, I recently posted the following on Farceybook, which garnered a LOT of *Likes*: *I have the biggest family on Earth - Wildlife !!*

Have you-all noticed how the most attractive people always have the FEWEST offspring, whilst your excruciatingly plain Saxon, with typical misplaced conceit - AND selfishness (doesn't ONE fcuk-trophy give you enough misery ??) - abuses his/her privilege to spawn? I posted on FB an hour ago: *Steve McQueen famously said he'd rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on Earth.* - to which I'd add: *I'd rather wake up next to a Lynx, Snow Leopard or Jaguar than any chimp on the planet..*
Goodnight, sex-obsessed losers !!
Ok... so you don't have children. Thanks for the answer. As for the rest of this....I have no idea how to respond.....
Thank God for that, saves on abuse and they can de-breed themselves out of humanity, which of course would be good as they claim they despise it so much.
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marabout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again![/p][/quote]Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....[/p][/quote]Do you have children ?[/p][/quote]Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary.[/p][/quote]NO - I've somehow managed to struggle through nearly 73 years without feeling the need for any hobbies that involve using a pram. Wouldn't know what the hell you're supposed to do with them, anyway - except, I suppose, to teach them to THINK for themselves, and therefore be totally unlike the lower classes of sheeple who write so much uninformed sarcasm on these pages. That apart, I'd FAR rather have a LIFE than offspring, any way you cut it. As to the comment re the dictionary - I suppose you're alluding to my Germanic/Europan spelling?? Judas Priest-on-a-bicycle - Europans must think the silli-english are thick as the proverbial two short planks !! I prefer using a *K* instead of a *C* in many words because the original GREEK (or Latin) from which those words derive were spelt AND PRONOUNCED as a *K*, but silli-english saw fit to change *K* to *C*, and then,perversely, pronounce it as an *S* !! Examples: Kephalopod, Makedonia, Kinema, Kupros (*Cyprus*). And before any sarmtrase tries to tell me you're ANGLICISING foreign words, how come you NEVER do it with French, eh?? Anyone who mispronounces FRENCH words is an ignorant buffoon, in YOUR eyes, yet it's fine to childishly do it mit der Deutsche, Greek or Latin, Italiano or Espanol !! The number of times I yell at the radio: *TrAUma, Numbnutz !!* when they mispronounce it as *TRAWMA*. If you're going to flog a German word to death, at least pronounce it correctly - same goes for sAUna.. :D Oh, by the way, I recently posted the following on Farceybook, which garnered a LOT of *Likes*: *I have the biggest family on Earth - Wildlife !!* Have you-all noticed how the most attractive people always have the FEWEST offspring, whilst your excruciatingly plain Saxon, with typical misplaced conceit - AND selfishness (doesn't ONE fcuk-trophy give you enough misery ??) - abuses his/her privilege to spawn? I posted on FB an hour ago: *Steve McQueen famously said he'd rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on Earth.* - to which I'd add: *I'd rather wake up next to a Lynx, Snow Leopard or Jaguar than any chimp on the planet..* Goodnight, sex-obsessed losers !![/p][/quote]Ok... so you don't have children. Thanks for the answer. As for the rest of this....I have no idea how to respond.....[/p][/quote]Thank God for that, saves on abuse and they can de-breed themselves out of humanity, which of course would be good as they claim they despise it so much. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -4

1:20pm Fri 25 Apr 14

TenBobDylanThomasHardy says...

Sigurd, I think you'll find that should be "Hear hear".
Sigurd, I think you'll find that should be "Hear hear". TenBobDylanThomasHardy
  • Score: 15

2:14pm Fri 25 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
This was posted by one of my FB friends just minutes ago:

*
Patrizia Mocchi Veg shared CTV News's photo.
1 min ·
The veal industry is the tragic and cruel consequence of people's addiction to dairy.
Consuming dairy and meat makes you among the worst animal abusers. I am so fed up to hear people saying:"but people have got to eatYou make some good points, but you are pitting human ethics against evolution.
Witness the lion, who has no compunction tearing apart the antelope. Or the chimpanzee, hunting and killing smaller members of the same genus.
Or the fly (whose name i can't remember) who lays its eggs inside a wasp, which is then eaten from the inside outwards by the larvae.
Cruelty is part of the world we live in. That is not to say that we should not seek to make animal husbandry more "humane" (note the origin of the word) than it is, because clearly we should.
For the record, i eat beef, chicken and pork. I do not eat veal nor do i accept that the cruelties associated with veal production are an inevitable outcome of milk production. I have never boiled any animal alive.
I suspect that neither meat lover nor vegan are correct about their preferences. The reality is that we were designed to be omnivores.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: This was posted by one of my FB friends just minutes ago: * Patrizia Mocchi Veg shared CTV News's photo. 1 min · The veal industry is the tragic and cruel consequence of people's addiction to dairy. Consuming dairy and meat makes you among the worst animal abusers. I am so fed up to hear people saying:"but people have got to eatYou make some good points, but you are pitting human ethics against evolution. Witness the lion, who has no compunction tearing apart the antelope. Or the chimpanzee, hunting and killing smaller members of the same genus. Or the fly (whose name i can't remember) who lays its eggs inside a wasp, which is then eaten from the inside outwards by the larvae. Cruelty is part of the world we live in. That is not to say that we should not seek to make animal husbandry more "humane" (note the origin of the word) than it is, because clearly we should. For the record, i eat beef, chicken and pork. I do not eat veal nor do i accept that the cruelties associated with veal production are an inevitable outcome of milk production. I have never boiled any animal alive. I suspect that neither meat lover nor vegan are correct about their preferences. The reality is that we were designed to be omnivores. JamesYoung
  • Score: -3

2:16pm Fri 25 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world..
Which is rather odd; it seems to be you that is railing against various groups.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world..[/p][/quote]Which is rather odd; it seems to be you that is railing against various groups. JamesYoung
  • Score: -5

4:24pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Jezebella says...

It's just a bit of harmless fun for people to send a message out about something that they feel strongly about it. We live in a free country with free speech and if they want to paint their bodies and make a statement what harm are they doing. I saw the photo and chuckled... I could clearly see it was just harmless fun - and not an attack of meat eaters. Yet so many comments on here are anti-vegans and vegetarians rather than just accepting its a novel way of promoting their views.
It's just a bit of harmless fun for people to send a message out about something that they feel strongly about it. We live in a free country with free speech and if they want to paint their bodies and make a statement what harm are they doing. I saw the photo and chuckled... I could clearly see it was just harmless fun - and not an attack of meat eaters. Yet so many comments on here are anti-vegans and vegetarians rather than just accepting its a novel way of promoting their views. Jezebella
  • Score: 8

4:47pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

JamesYoung wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world..
Which is rather odd; it seems to be you that is railing against various groups.
Exactly what I was thinking....
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world..[/p][/quote]Which is rather odd; it seems to be you that is railing against various groups.[/p][/quote]Exactly what I was thinking.... Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -7

5:46pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

TenBobDylanThomasHar
dy
wrote:
Sigurd, I think you'll find that should be "Hear hear".
There there...:-)
[quote][p][bold]TenBobDylanThomasHar dy[/bold] wrote: Sigurd, I think you'll find that should be "Hear hear".[/p][/quote]There there...:-) Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -6

7:46pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Lora "Leigh"

As subtle as an anal fissure and about as welcome.
Lora "Leigh" As subtle as an anal fissure and about as welcome. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: -8

10:49pm Fri 25 Apr 14

cj07589 says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
As soon as I saw this item, I thought: Bet all the comments are anti-vegetarian and negative. Hey, I was right, surprise, surprise!! Once I used to hunt, preferring to eat healthy meat (Deer, Grey Squirrel and Duck), rather than the tasteless, hormone-laden PAP one sees so neatly packaged in all the supermarkets. Alright, I admit it, I was also a bit of a coward - I tried to avoid anything known to cause cancer, since I did not relish cardiovascular or colonic problems that come from corpse-munching, and for similar reasons I wouldn't touch white bread with a bargepole, since it's KNOWN to cause bowel cancer, and I've never found the prospect of spending the rest of my life attached to a colostomy bag particularly appealing. Once, when addressing some ignorant people throwing WHITE bread to the Ducks at Radipole Lake (ANY bread is harmful to birds, but white is the worst, as it holds NO nutrition, but makes the birds stop eating because they feel full) I met with rudeness, but after they left, a nearby man who had witnessed the exchange came over to me and said I was completely correct - that he had colonic cancer, and the doctors had put it down to eating white bread. Indeed, I am rather surprised that it is still legal to produce and market white bread..
But to return to our alleged carnivore status: it is true that we have long hunted Other Species for food. That much is historical fact. However, TRUE carnivores - whose job is to protect the Plant Kingdom from overgrazing/overbrow

sing - have a SHORT alimentary canal, or gut, if you prefer. Animals who were designed to eat more benign foods of the vegetable kind have a necessarily LONGER gut. There is a reason for this, and it has to do with cancer-causing toxins found in meat. Carnivores have short guts in order that the meat they have consumed exits the body in the optimally shortest time.
Quite apart from issues concerning our OWN welfare, and even if I were still a pretend-carnivore, I have seen enough appalling videos online to convince me that the way of the necrovore is ethically and morally indefensible. Pigs regularly go alive into scalding water, after being hit and kicked and otherwise abused by psycho slaughterhouse workers in the UK, Canada, US, Australia, and no doubt many other cuntries. Cows are often skinned alive whilst hanging upside-down by one leg, male calves who do not produce milk (obviously) have their heads smashed in with hammers, and many never even meet their mothers properly. In places where Horsemeat is acceptable, Horses regularly have their eyes hacked out with claw-hammers, so that they will stand still for slaughter, and even, quite likely, welcome it as deliverance from their agony. No, you may utter as many tasteless jokes as you wish about dead Animals and their meat, but it remains indefensible to be speciesist - and THAT is precisely what it is. I further note that you do not like to hear disparaging comments about those who make a living out of killing Other Species, on the land - OR in the sea.... Too bad !!
As others have remarked before me, to Animals, farms are their Auschwitz, and we clothed chimpanzees are their Devil -or Hitler....
Haven't you got a salad to troll?
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: As soon as I saw this item, I thought: Bet all the comments are anti-vegetarian and negative. Hey, I was right, surprise, surprise!! Once I used to hunt, preferring to eat healthy meat (Deer, Grey Squirrel and Duck), rather than the tasteless, hormone-laden PAP one sees so neatly packaged in all the supermarkets. Alright, I admit it, I was also a bit of a coward - I tried to avoid anything known to cause cancer, since I did not relish cardiovascular or colonic problems that come from corpse-munching, and for similar reasons I wouldn't touch white bread with a bargepole, since it's KNOWN to cause bowel cancer, and I've never found the prospect of spending the rest of my life attached to a colostomy bag particularly appealing. Once, when addressing some ignorant people throwing WHITE bread to the Ducks at Radipole Lake (ANY bread is harmful to birds, but white is the worst, as it holds NO nutrition, but makes the birds stop eating because they feel full) I met with rudeness, but after they left, a nearby man who had witnessed the exchange came over to me and said I was completely correct - that he had colonic cancer, and the doctors had put it down to eating white bread. Indeed, I am rather surprised that it is still legal to produce and market white bread.. But to return to our alleged carnivore status: it is true that we have long hunted Other Species for food. That much is historical fact. However, TRUE carnivores - whose job is to protect the Plant Kingdom from overgrazing/overbrow sing - have a SHORT alimentary canal, or gut, if you prefer. Animals who were designed to eat more benign foods of the vegetable kind have a necessarily LONGER gut. There is a reason for this, and it has to do with cancer-causing toxins found in meat. Carnivores have short guts in order that the meat they have consumed exits the body in the optimally shortest time. Quite apart from issues concerning our OWN welfare, and even if I were still a pretend-carnivore, I have seen enough appalling videos online to convince me that the way of the necrovore is ethically and morally indefensible. Pigs regularly go alive into scalding water, after being hit and kicked and otherwise abused by psycho slaughterhouse workers in the UK, Canada, US, Australia, and no doubt many other cuntries. Cows are often skinned alive whilst hanging upside-down by one leg, male calves who do not produce milk (obviously) have their heads smashed in with hammers, and many never even meet their mothers properly. In places where Horsemeat is acceptable, Horses regularly have their eyes hacked out with claw-hammers, so that they will stand still for slaughter, and even, quite likely, welcome it as deliverance from their agony. No, you may utter as many tasteless jokes as you wish about dead Animals and their meat, but it remains indefensible to be speciesist - and THAT is precisely what it is. I further note that you do not like to hear disparaging comments about those who make a living out of killing Other Species, on the land - OR in the sea.... Too bad !! As others have remarked before me, to Animals, farms are their Auschwitz, and we clothed chimpanzees are their Devil -or Hitler....[/p][/quote]Haven't you got a salad to troll? cj07589
  • Score: -9

10:51pm Fri 25 Apr 14

cj07589 says...

marabout wrote:
livid99 wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....
Do you have children ?
Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary.
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]marabout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again![/p][/quote]Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....[/p][/quote]Do you have children ?[/p][/quote]Its not children she needs, it's a dictionary.[/p][/quote]Well said! cj07589
  • Score: -7

8:04pm Sat 26 Apr 14

TenBobDylanThomasHardy says...

Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
TenBobDylanThomasHar

dy
wrote:
Sigurd, I think you'll find that should be "Hear hear".
There there...:-)
Where where? Sorry Sig', a bit late.
[quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TenBobDylanThomasHar dy[/bold] wrote: Sigurd, I think you'll find that should be "Hear hear".[/p][/quote]There there...:-)[/p][/quote]Where where? Sorry Sig', a bit late. TenBobDylanThomasHardy
  • Score: 12

8:39pm Sat 26 Apr 14

woodsedge says...

TenBobDylanThomasHar
dy
wrote:
Sigurd Hoeberth wrote:
TenBobDylanThomasHar


dy
wrote:
Sigurd, I think you'll find that should be "Hear hear".
There there...:-)
Where where? Sorry Sig', a bit late.
Sigturd is quiet, banned again old boy?
[quote][p][bold]TenBobDylanThomasHar dy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoeberth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TenBobDylanThomasHar dy[/bold] wrote: Sigurd, I think you'll find that should be "Hear hear".[/p][/quote]There there...:-)[/p][/quote]Where where? Sorry Sig', a bit late.[/p][/quote]Sigturd is quiet, banned again old boy? woodsedge
  • Score: 1

9:27pm Sun 27 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote:
The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again!
Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet..
Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....
Do you have to shout, it detracts from what you actually have to say?
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: The eugenicist misanthrope is on the loose again![/p][/quote]Show me ONE thing that makes we hominids a worthwhile species, deserving of continued existence on what was once a beautiful planet, and I'll be happy to listen to you. Truth is, you can't do it, can you ? Eugenicist ? Certainly - our species needs reducing at LEAST a thousand times, so we might as well have decent-quality chimps as all the rubbish one currently sees around, don't you think ? QUALITY (remember THAT word ?) before quantity. As a 180# primate, a NATURALIST might expect to find fewer than about 500,000 of we *Earth's Cancer* blotting the landscape. We crossed the line to become vermin when we passed the ONE BILLION mark - possibly before that - but at over SEVEN BILLION (that's 7,000,000,000 to the innumerate) we are now well into the status of MEGAvermin - a sad day indeed for our planet.. Look at the current case of the mother arrested for killing her three genetically-damaged offspring. In a practical, SENSIBLE world, she'd never have been faced with that choice - faulty offspring would have been euthanized at birth. You'd do that to any other species - why do you think there should be one law for them and another for us ?? How about I kidnap an infant from someone's pram, take it home, stick a steel spike through its brain, and roast it for Sunday Lunch - would that upset you ?? Well, that's EXACTLY how vegetarians view the acts of pretend-carnivores - if you can LOGIKALLY explain why these things are different, then by all means try....[/p][/quote]Do you have to shout, it detracts from what you actually have to say? breamoreboy
  • Score: 0

10:02pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Perhaps you can inform me as to how to put in italics words to which one wishes to apply stress. Lacking any other alternative to a bland monotone, one uses upper case - which I have never perceived as "shouting", merely stressing.... :D
Perhaps you can inform me as to how to put in italics words to which one wishes to apply stress. Lacking any other alternative to a bland monotone, one uses upper case - which I have never perceived as "shouting", merely stressing.... :D Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 3

6:44am Mon 28 Apr 14

cj07589 says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Not everyone likes me - but then, not everyone matters !!

And for those who suggest I depart this life NOW - I wouldn't be in TOO much of a hurry to see that happen, if I were you....

A hundred years from now, YOU will be forgotten - but a THOUSAND years from now (in the unlikely event that clothed chimps can survive that long an even GREATER plague than themselves - brought about by their own stupidity) I shall be remembered as someone who, above all others, educated her fellow accursed species to look at the world through different, universally-compassi

onate eyes - to be less anthropokentrik, less SELFISH and BIGOTTED. To regard Other Species as persons, just like ourselves, but who wear fur, feathers or scales and, perhaps crucially, happen to be unable to speak in any chimp languages. But they still love life, fear death and suffering, and mourn their dead - in a word, they are SENTIENT beings, and if you view them as less than that, then do not complain when you and yours are treated exactly the same..
And as for me hating hominids - there are vast ships hoovering up Krill from the Southern Oceans in 200 ton gulps. There are many ships doing this, and the Krill, as any fool should know, are ESSENTIAL food for Blue and other great whales. Deutsche Bank have pressured indonesia to trash their rainforests, condemning all their Wildlife, in order to produce palm oil. Negigrs hack the faces off live Rhino's, to sell the horns to backward and childishly superstitious vietnamese - you obviously haven't seen the videos online of a Rhino with its eyes, face, nose and horn all hacked away with machetes, so some would-be TORY can feed his 14 strong family. Untold BILLIONS of Animals horribly killed in long drift-nets and thrown back into the sea as *by-catch*. Would you like to be drowned, and then just dismissed as *by-catch, of no importance ??" No, I've only touched the very TIP of the iceberg here - to tell you of ALL (in)humanity's evil deeds would fill quite a few VERY thick volumes. You may sneer as much as you-all like, MY satisfaction comes from knowing I'm 100% right, as finer brains than yours have already acknowledged.
Here's an example: I'd gone into an off-licence for some table wine when I lived for a couple of years in Hammersmith & Fulham, around 1982. The storekeep was a fairly amiable and chatty sort, and pretty soon a lively discussion about chimps' evil deeds on planet Earth was under way. I said what I thought a few million of us Treehuggers ought to do about it when one man, who I'd already recognised as actor Patrick McGee, turned to me with quite a twinkle in his eye, and said: *You know, I feel SURE there must be something wrong with what you're saying - but, for the life of me, I can't see what it is !!* Unfortunately, I recently learned that he'd died that same summer - and it seems to me Earth lost a friend....
Seek help I think you need some.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Not everyone likes me - but then, not everyone matters !! And for those who suggest I depart this life NOW - I wouldn't be in TOO much of a hurry to see that happen, if I were you.... A hundred years from now, YOU will be forgotten - but a THOUSAND years from now (in the unlikely event that clothed chimps can survive that long an even GREATER plague than themselves - brought about by their own stupidity) I shall be remembered as someone who, above all others, educated her fellow accursed species to look at the world through different, universally-compassi onate eyes - to be less anthropokentrik, less SELFISH and BIGOTTED. To regard Other Species as persons, just like ourselves, but who wear fur, feathers or scales and, perhaps crucially, happen to be unable to speak in any chimp languages. But they still love life, fear death and suffering, and mourn their dead - in a word, they are SENTIENT beings, and if you view them as less than that, then do not complain when you and yours are treated exactly the same.. And as for me hating hominids - there are vast ships hoovering up Krill from the Southern Oceans in 200 ton gulps. There are many ships doing this, and the Krill, as any fool should know, are ESSENTIAL food for Blue and other great whales. Deutsche Bank have pressured indonesia to trash their rainforests, condemning all their Wildlife, in order to produce palm oil. Negigrs hack the faces off live Rhino's, to sell the horns to backward and childishly superstitious vietnamese - you obviously haven't seen the videos online of a Rhino with its eyes, face, nose and horn all hacked away with machetes, so some would-be TORY can feed his 14 strong family. Untold BILLIONS of Animals horribly killed in long drift-nets and thrown back into the sea as *by-catch*. Would you like to be drowned, and then just dismissed as *by-catch, of no importance ??" No, I've only touched the very TIP of the iceberg here - to tell you of ALL (in)humanity's evil deeds would fill quite a few VERY thick volumes. You may sneer as much as you-all like, MY satisfaction comes from knowing I'm 100% right, as finer brains than yours have already acknowledged. Here's an example: I'd gone into an off-licence for some table wine when I lived for a couple of years in Hammersmith & Fulham, around 1982. The storekeep was a fairly amiable and chatty sort, and pretty soon a lively discussion about chimps' evil deeds on planet Earth was under way. I said what I thought a few million of us Treehuggers ought to do about it when one man, who I'd already recognised as actor Patrick McGee, turned to me with quite a twinkle in his eye, and said: *You know, I feel SURE there must be something wrong with what you're saying - but, for the life of me, I can't see what it is !!* Unfortunately, I recently learned that he'd died that same summer - and it seems to me Earth lost a friend....[/p][/quote]Seek help I think you need some. cj07589
  • Score: -7

11:17pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Mansur Kara
Yesterday at 19:57 ·
I have unfortunately been inside slaughterhouses and can tell you that the animals are not willingly walking up to the end of the kill line and sticking their necks out. These animals fight with every bit of strength they have left at the end of that kill line.
They fight to get out of that kill line. They don't want to die, and they know it's coming. They see, and they know exactly what's going to happen to them.
There is absolutely no truth that any process of slaughtering is
humane. From the moment those animals are taken from those trucks and forced through the slaughtering process, it is the most inhumane treatment that I have ever witnessed. ~ Cayce Mell
Mansur Kara Yesterday at 19:57 · I have unfortunately been inside slaughterhouses and can tell you that the animals are not willingly walking up to the end of the kill line and sticking their necks out. These animals fight with every bit of strength they have left at the end of that kill line. They fight to get out of that kill line. They don't want to die, and they know it's coming. They see, and they know exactly what's going to happen to them. There is absolutely no truth that any process of slaughtering is humane. From the moment those animals are taken from those trucks and forced through the slaughtering process, it is the most inhumane treatment that I have ever witnessed. ~ Cayce Mell Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 5

1:40pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Someone I knew at IoPHT, in old St George's School, Reforne, when I was Conservation Officer there in 1988, said that, when it came to conservation, Weymouth people *seem to be a pretty lack-luster lot!!* Yes, and I think the same comments (and worse) might apply when it comes to Animal Rights and Welfare, too!! The point is, cabrones, if you wish what YOU cherish to be treated decently and with respect, you won't achieve THAT by dismissing what OTHERS cherish - quite simple, really, isn't it - even for Englischer DUMMKOPFS ??!!
A cop I knew to chat to in Lyme Regis in the mid-90s told me that all the others at the nick used to take the psis out of him because he chose to be a vegetarian, and distanced himself from the prevalent Neanderthal attitude of *Me man, hairy-chested chimpanzee - and when I eat, some other Animal HAS to die !!*
*It's the 21st Century, FFS - are you STILL eating Animals ??!!*
Someone I knew at IoPHT, in old St George's School, Reforne, when I was Conservation Officer there in 1988, said that, when it came to conservation, Weymouth people *seem to be a pretty lack-luster lot!!* Yes, and I think the same comments (and worse) might apply when it comes to Animal Rights and Welfare, too!! The point is, cabrones, if you wish what YOU cherish to be treated decently and with respect, you won't achieve THAT by dismissing what OTHERS cherish - quite simple, really, isn't it - even for Englischer DUMMKOPFS ??!! A cop I knew to chat to in Lyme Regis in the mid-90s told me that all the others at the nick used to take the psis out of him because he chose to be a vegetarian, and distanced himself from the prevalent Neanderthal attitude of *Me man, hairy-chested chimpanzee - and when I eat, some other Animal HAS to die !!* *It's the 21st Century, FFS - are you STILL eating Animals ??!!* Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 5

2:24pm Tue 29 Apr 14

jjlad2 says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Someone I knew at IoPHT, in old St George's School, Reforne, when I was Conservation Officer there in 1988, said that, when it came to conservation, Weymouth people *seem to be a pretty lack-luster lot!!* Yes, and I think the same comments (and worse) might apply when it comes to Animal Rights and Welfare, too!! The point is, cabrones, if you wish what YOU cherish to be treated decently and with respect, you won't achieve THAT by dismissing what OTHERS cherish - quite simple, really, isn't it - even for Englischer DUMMKOPFS ??!! A cop I knew to chat to in Lyme Regis in the mid-90s told me that all the others at the nick used to take the psis out of him because he chose to be a vegetarian, and distanced himself from the prevalent Neanderthal attitude of *Me man, hairy-chested chimpanzee - and when I eat, some other Animal HAS to die !!* *It's the 21st Century, FFS - are you STILL eating Animals ??!!*
You mean you went to school......... why did you not finish then, as your grammer may have improved, as would your understanding of debate. Some people eat meat and some do not, easy! You seldom see meat eaters forcing thier views on vegetarians, so leave us alone and do your own thing.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Someone I knew at IoPHT, in old St George's School, Reforne, when I was Conservation Officer there in 1988, said that, when it came to conservation, Weymouth people *seem to be a pretty lack-luster lot!!* Yes, and I think the same comments (and worse) might apply when it comes to Animal Rights and Welfare, too!! The point is, cabrones, if you wish what YOU cherish to be treated decently and with respect, you won't achieve THAT by dismissing what OTHERS cherish - quite simple, really, isn't it - even for Englischer DUMMKOPFS ??!! A cop I knew to chat to in Lyme Regis in the mid-90s told me that all the others at the nick used to take the psis out of him because he chose to be a vegetarian, and distanced himself from the prevalent Neanderthal attitude of *Me man, hairy-chested chimpanzee - and when I eat, some other Animal HAS to die !!* *It's the 21st Century, FFS - are you STILL eating Animals ??!!*[/p][/quote]You mean you went to school......... why did you not finish then, as your grammer may have improved, as would your understanding of debate. Some people eat meat and some do not, easy! You seldom see meat eaters forcing thier views on vegetarians, so leave us alone and do your own thing. jjlad2
  • Score: -6

5:33pm Tue 29 Apr 14

codlips says...

jjlad2 wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Someone I knew at IoPHT, in old St George's School, Reforne, when I was Conservation Officer there in 1988, said that, when it came to conservation, Weymouth people *seem to be a pretty lack-luster lot!!* Yes, and I think the same comments (and worse) might apply when it comes to Animal Rights and Welfare, too!! The point is, cabrones, if you wish what YOU cherish to be treated decently and with respect, you won't achieve THAT by dismissing what OTHERS cherish - quite simple, really, isn't it - even for Englischer DUMMKOPFS ??!! A cop I knew to chat to in Lyme Regis in the mid-90s told me that all the others at the nick used to take the psis out of him because he chose to be a vegetarian, and distanced himself from the prevalent Neanderthal attitude of *Me man, hairy-chested chimpanzee - and when I eat, some other Animal HAS to die !!* *It's the 21st Century, FFS - are you STILL eating Animals ??!!*
You mean you went to school......... why did you not finish then, as your grammer may have improved, as would your understanding of debate. Some people eat meat and some do not, easy! You seldom see meat eaters forcing thier views on vegetarians, so leave us alone and do your own thing.
She's far to intelligent to debate with us retarded mere mortals, can you not see the insults in her posts demeaning us with her superior wit, best to let her win the debate or she may have you sent to the slaughter house, because that's all us chimp homo-sapiens are good for...Now, get the pan on love, i have an animal to eat.
[quote][p][bold]jjlad2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Someone I knew at IoPHT, in old St George's School, Reforne, when I was Conservation Officer there in 1988, said that, when it came to conservation, Weymouth people *seem to be a pretty lack-luster lot!!* Yes, and I think the same comments (and worse) might apply when it comes to Animal Rights and Welfare, too!! The point is, cabrones, if you wish what YOU cherish to be treated decently and with respect, you won't achieve THAT by dismissing what OTHERS cherish - quite simple, really, isn't it - even for Englischer DUMMKOPFS ??!! A cop I knew to chat to in Lyme Regis in the mid-90s told me that all the others at the nick used to take the psis out of him because he chose to be a vegetarian, and distanced himself from the prevalent Neanderthal attitude of *Me man, hairy-chested chimpanzee - and when I eat, some other Animal HAS to die !!* *It's the 21st Century, FFS - are you STILL eating Animals ??!!*[/p][/quote]You mean you went to school......... why did you not finish then, as your grammer may have improved, as would your understanding of debate. Some people eat meat and some do not, easy! You seldom see meat eaters forcing thier views on vegetarians, so leave us alone and do your own thing.[/p][/quote]She's far to intelligent to debate with us retarded mere mortals, can you not see the insults in her posts demeaning us with her superior wit, best to let her win the debate or she may have you sent to the slaughter house, because that's all us chimp homo-sapiens are good for...Now, get the pan on love, i have an animal to eat. codlips
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