Richard Drax MP column: Our country is Christian

Dorset Echo: Richard Drax MP Richard Drax MP

ADMIRAL Drax, my grandfather, was a prolific writer. Only recently, hidden in the basement, I found a number of pamphlets.

Following the Prime Minister’s Easter message that we should be “more confident about our status as a Christian country”, one of them caught my eye.

Entitled The Uncertain Future, published in 1967, my grandfather believed that voters would support the view that: “Our leader, and his colleagues, should have ideals based on a sound Christian faith and should not be afraid to let the world know it.”

David Cameron clearly agrees and he must have been surprised, like me, by the furore which followed his even-handed article in the Church Times last week.

In an open letter published in the Telegraph, 55 high-profile writers, broadcasters and scientists, stated that “Britain is not a Christian country” and “to claim otherwise fosters alienation and division in our society”.

However, others disagree which, interestingly, include the heads of the Muslim Council of Great Britain and the Hindu Council, who both acknowledge this is a Christian country with ‘deep historical and structural links to Christianity’. After all, our Queen is Supreme Governor of the Church of England, anointed by an archbishop at her coronation.

And you only have to look at our calendar, laws, ethics, art, music and literature, to name a few, to see how our faith is interwoven into the very fabric of our country.

My grandfather certainly believed that and I know he’d be disappointed at the relentless assaults on what he believed was the country’s guiding light.

Unfortunately, religion appears to attract views at both ends of the spectrum. However, one thing’s for sure, these 55 signatories will not face persecution for their comments in Christian, tolerant Britain.

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12:41pm Fri 25 Apr 14

CaughtJester says...

If Lot was righteous, I think I'd rather not be.
If Lot was righteous, I think I'd rather not be. CaughtJester
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Fri 25 Apr 14

The Fish says...

In 2001 the UK Census indicated 72% of the population were christians, by 2011 this figure had dropped to 59% ( for info the next biggest group - Muslims - had increased from 3% to 4.8%).
It would seem Christianlity is on the decline!
In 2001 the UK Census indicated 72% of the population were christians, by 2011 this figure had dropped to 59% ( for info the next biggest group - Muslims - had increased from 3% to 4.8%). It would seem Christianlity is on the decline! The Fish
  • Score: 1

1:31pm Fri 25 Apr 14

cosmick says...

The Fish wrote:
In 2001 the UK Census indicated 72% of the population were christians, by 2011 this figure had dropped to 59% ( for info the next biggest group - Muslims - had increased from 3% to 4.8%).
It would seem Christianlity is on the decline!
Would be with open borders.
Not many C OF E familys with a handfull of children.
Mass influx to our country will change EVERYTHING!
[quote][p][bold]The Fish[/bold] wrote: In 2001 the UK Census indicated 72% of the population were christians, by 2011 this figure had dropped to 59% ( for info the next biggest group - Muslims - had increased from 3% to 4.8%). It would seem Christianlity is on the decline![/p][/quote]Would be with open borders. Not many C OF E familys with a handfull of children. Mass influx to our country will change EVERYTHING! cosmick
  • Score: 4

2:31pm Fri 25 Apr 14

JamesYoung says...

cosmick wrote:
The Fish wrote:
In 2001 the UK Census indicated 72% of the population were christians, by 2011 this figure had dropped to 59% ( for info the next biggest group - Muslims - had increased from 3% to 4.8%).
It would seem Christianlity is on the decline!
Would be with open borders.
Not many C OF E familys with a handfull of children.
Mass influx to our country will change EVERYTHING!
Already has. It's widely acknowledged that authorities are turning a blind eye to the practice of shari'a law - to the detriment of women - in a number of our cities. 85 sharia courts currently operating! Unbelievably, the Law Society is also working on shari'a recommendations which would include, for example, the loss of equality in inheritiance rights for women and illegitimate kids.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Fish[/bold] wrote: In 2001 the UK Census indicated 72% of the population were christians, by 2011 this figure had dropped to 59% ( for info the next biggest group - Muslims - had increased from 3% to 4.8%). It would seem Christianlity is on the decline![/p][/quote]Would be with open borders. Not many C OF E familys with a handfull of children. Mass influx to our country will change EVERYTHING![/p][/quote]Already has. It's widely acknowledged that authorities are turning a blind eye to the practice of shari'a law - to the detriment of women - in a number of our cities. 85 sharia courts currently operating! Unbelievably, the Law Society is also working on shari'a recommendations which would include, for example, the loss of equality in inheritiance rights for women and illegitimate kids. JamesYoung
  • Score: 1

2:53pm Fri 25 Apr 14

woodsedge says...

JamesYoung wrote:
cosmick wrote:
The Fish wrote:
In 2001 the UK Census indicated 72% of the population were christians, by 2011 this figure had dropped to 59% ( for info the next biggest group - Muslims - had increased from 3% to 4.8%).
It would seem Christianlity is on the decline!
Would be with open borders.
Not many C OF E familys with a handfull of children.
Mass influx to our country will change EVERYTHING!
Already has. It's widely acknowledged that authorities are turning a blind eye to the practice of shari'a law - to the detriment of women - in a number of our cities. 85 sharia courts currently operating! Unbelievably, the Law Society is also working on shari'a recommendations which would include, for example, the loss of equality in inheritiance rights for women and illegitimate kids.
The balance need to be struck in that are borders are open and that will not change. I have always supported religious freedom but if you live in a country then you accept the law of that country, you do not import your own. These kangaroo courts need to be outlawed. As for Drax if he believes that we still live in a Christian country he is wrong. Most people see the various religions, including Christianity, as the source of the majority of the worlds problems.
[quote][p][bold]JamesYoung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Fish[/bold] wrote: In 2001 the UK Census indicated 72% of the population were christians, by 2011 this figure had dropped to 59% ( for info the next biggest group - Muslims - had increased from 3% to 4.8%). It would seem Christianlity is on the decline![/p][/quote]Would be with open borders. Not many C OF E familys with a handfull of children. Mass influx to our country will change EVERYTHING![/p][/quote]Already has. It's widely acknowledged that authorities are turning a blind eye to the practice of shari'a law - to the detriment of women - in a number of our cities. 85 sharia courts currently operating! Unbelievably, the Law Society is also working on shari'a recommendations which would include, for example, the loss of equality in inheritiance rights for women and illegitimate kids.[/p][/quote]The balance need to be struck in that are borders are open and that will not change. I have always supported religious freedom but if you live in a country then you accept the law of that country, you do not import your own. These kangaroo courts need to be outlawed. As for Drax if he believes that we still live in a Christian country he is wrong. Most people see the various religions, including Christianity, as the source of the majority of the worlds problems. woodsedge
  • Score: 1

4:13pm Fri 25 Apr 14

navelgazer says...

One gets the feeling that Drax believes that Christianity has formed our laws, brought social justice to our land, been responsible for the introduction of human rights – in fact, all things good that have happened in our green and pleasant land are the product of Christianity.
Of course, it requires a wholesale rewriting of history to make these claims stand up.
The Church of England (in common with other religions) has been grotesquely oppressive and cruel in its time. It has been responsible for the introduction of laws that created misery for untold numbers of people. It forbade divorce, it made contraception illegal, it restricted women's access to abortion, it outlawed homosexuality and even stood in the way of cremation as an alternative to burial (the body must be intact, you see, for the Day of Judgment). Even suicide was illegal because the church said it was un-Christian.

Organised religion has had far too much privilege, power and protection for far too long. Humanity needs to evolve and the continued inclusion of superstitious beliefs in the affairs of state is not helping that process.

Religious belief, or the lack of it, should have as much place in the formulation of government policy as ducking stools and witchcraft.
One gets the feeling that Drax believes that Christianity has formed our laws, brought social justice to our land, been responsible for the introduction of human rights – in fact, all things good that have happened in our green and pleasant land are the product of Christianity. Of course, it requires a wholesale rewriting of history to make these claims stand up. The Church of England (in common with other religions) has been grotesquely oppressive and cruel in its time. It has been responsible for the introduction of laws that created misery for untold numbers of people. It forbade divorce, it made contraception illegal, it restricted women's access to abortion, it outlawed homosexuality and even stood in the way of cremation as an alternative to burial (the body must be intact, you see, for the Day of Judgment). Even suicide was illegal because the church said it was un-Christian. Organised religion has had far too much privilege, power and protection for far too long. Humanity needs to evolve and the continued inclusion of superstitious beliefs in the affairs of state is not helping that process. Religious belief, or the lack of it, should have as much place in the formulation of government policy as ducking stools and witchcraft. navelgazer
  • Score: 2

8:52am Sat 26 Apr 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Nope, he is just an M.P who lies to his constituents and once in power stabs them in the back, from a party that stabs Men and fathers in the back after doing the same, then he rattles on about Christian country but is happy to represent and be a member of a party that sold out core christian values.

Come election time, you will find out what a mistake that was I think.
Nope, he is just an M.P who lies to his constituents and once in power stabs them in the back, from a party that stabs Men and fathers in the back after doing the same, then he rattles on about Christian country but is happy to represent and be a member of a party that sold out core christian values. Come election time, you will find out what a mistake that was I think. Sigurd Hoeberth
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