Trains on track for a summer of seaside outings

Dorset Echo: Trains on track for a summer of seaside outings Trains on track for a summer of seaside outings

OBSERVERS had a glimpse of the high speed train that will be bringing tourists to Weymouth this summer.

First Great Western ran a special service to the resort at the weekend featuring the HST power cars and eight carriages usually seen on main lines between London and major cities.

It will be used for the ‘bucket and spade’ summer Saturday service from Bristol Temple Meads to Weymouth, with the first one running on May 24, arriving at 11.45am and making the return journey at 5.28pm.

Offering much more room than the two-car trains that run on the route, the HST will operate until September 6.

Despite its capacity to operate up to 125mph, it will not be travelling at high speed.

The introduction of the longer, prestigious train for summer comes after complaints the rail operator did not provide enough carriages on the Bristol line over Easter.

Borough council tourism spokesman Ian Bruce heard reports of passengers being turned away from packed-out trains.

He said: “It is farcical having only two carriages on.

“Railway companies are supposed to cater for the demand and they have the knowledge that demand to come to Weymouth is high.

“First Great Western is simply not doing what they are employed to do. To cram people into two carriages is not acceptable and it would put people off from coming to Weymouth.”

The rail operator apologised and said it regularly adds additional carriages to accommodate increases in demand.

A spokesman said extra carriages will be added to weekend services with the start of the summer timetable on May 19, plus there is the Saturday-only HST service which will have eight carriages.

First Great Western is naming this service the ‘Weymouth Wizard’ but the summer Saturday-only train is traditionally known as the bucket and spade train as it brings people to the coast.

Heart of Wessex Rail Partnership volunteer Andy Hutchings, from Weymouth, said the HST service was ‘good news for Weymouth’.

He added: “It means many people will be able to travel in comfort to Weymouth.”

Mr Hutchings was at Weymouth station to witness the train come in last Saturday and said it drew many onlookers.

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12:30pm Thu 8 May 14

IDONTKNOWIFITISTRRUE says...

Despite its capacity to operate up to 125mph, it will not be travelling at high speed.
That's good because I don't think that it would get around the bend at the harbour end of Commercial Road!
Despite its capacity to operate up to 125mph, it will not be travelling at high speed. That's good because I don't think that it would get around the bend at the harbour end of Commercial Road! IDONTKNOWIFITISTRRUE
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1:50pm Thu 8 May 14

Micke12 says...

Seems to me to be a waste of motive powered resources, placing HST 125 MPH locomotive units on a line that can not sustain or even accept the speeds that these units can provide.

Would have been more sense to place type 37 diesel powered units on this run. If First can afford to run these 125 units on this line, then they have motive stock that is in excess of what they need. They may look nice, but the running costs that occur when you fail to run at optimum speed is quite substantial.
Seems to me to be a waste of motive powered resources, placing HST 125 MPH locomotive units on a line that can not sustain or even accept the speeds that these units can provide. Would have been more sense to place type 37 diesel powered units on this run. If First can afford to run these 125 units on this line, then they have motive stock that is in excess of what they need. They may look nice, but the running costs that occur when you fail to run at optimum speed is quite substantial. Micke12
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2:06pm Thu 8 May 14

dorset & proud says...

Micke12 wrote:
Seems to me to be a waste of motive powered resources, placing HST 125 MPH locomotive units on a line that can not sustain or even accept the speeds that these units can provide.

Would have been more sense to place type 37 diesel powered units on this run. If First can afford to run these 125 units on this line, then they have motive stock that is in excess of what they need. They may look nice, but the running costs that occur when you fail to run at optimum speed is quite substantial.
Also they're designed for speed rather than acceleration so will most likely take longer to make the journey than the standard stock, plus the track from Yeovil to Dorchester West is pretty knackered so they won't run at any great speed. In fact they may have to go slower due to their weight!
[quote][p][bold]Micke12[/bold] wrote: Seems to me to be a waste of motive powered resources, placing HST 125 MPH locomotive units on a line that can not sustain or even accept the speeds that these units can provide. Would have been more sense to place type 37 diesel powered units on this run. If First can afford to run these 125 units on this line, then they have motive stock that is in excess of what they need. They may look nice, but the running costs that occur when you fail to run at optimum speed is quite substantial.[/p][/quote]Also they're designed for speed rather than acceleration so will most likely take longer to make the journey than the standard stock, plus the track from Yeovil to Dorchester West is pretty knackered so they won't run at any great speed. In fact they may have to go slower due to their weight! dorset & proud
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2:17pm Thu 8 May 14

arlbergbahn says...

dorset & proud wrote:
Micke12 wrote:
Seems to me to be a waste of motive powered resources, placing HST 125 MPH locomotive units on a line that can not sustain or even accept the speeds that these units can provide.

Would have been more sense to place type 37 diesel powered units on this run. If First can afford to run these 125 units on this line, then they have motive stock that is in excess of what they need. They may look nice, but the running costs that occur when you fail to run at optimum speed is quite substantial.
Also they're designed for speed rather than acceleration so will most likely take longer to make the journey than the standard stock, plus the track from Yeovil to Dorchester West is pretty knackered so they won't run at any great speed. In fact they may have to go slower due to their weight!
I doubt it, they're RA5 (same as a 37), whereas the class 67s that used to be used are RA8, so they have among the lowest axle loadings. Plus with 4500 hp they're decidedly superior in acceleration too. Certainly class 37's be nice, but they'd have to hire them in from Direct Rail Services, and probably drivers as well, so this is a much more cost effective way of using resources that aren't needed at weekends. And referring to good ol' Coun. Ian Bruce, once again popping up to get his name in the paper, if FGw don't have enough DMUs for the regular service, it's basically the fault of the Department of Transport since they dictate rolling stock allocation, and in fact when the FGW franchise was renewed the DfT transferred many class 153 and 158 units away.
[quote][p][bold]dorset & proud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Micke12[/bold] wrote: Seems to me to be a waste of motive powered resources, placing HST 125 MPH locomotive units on a line that can not sustain or even accept the speeds that these units can provide. Would have been more sense to place type 37 diesel powered units on this run. If First can afford to run these 125 units on this line, then they have motive stock that is in excess of what they need. They may look nice, but the running costs that occur when you fail to run at optimum speed is quite substantial.[/p][/quote]Also they're designed for speed rather than acceleration so will most likely take longer to make the journey than the standard stock, plus the track from Yeovil to Dorchester West is pretty knackered so they won't run at any great speed. In fact they may have to go slower due to their weight![/p][/quote]I doubt it, they're RA5 (same as a 37), whereas the class 67s that used to be used are RA8, so they have among the lowest axle loadings. Plus with 4500 hp they're decidedly superior in acceleration too. Certainly class 37's be nice, but they'd have to hire them in from Direct Rail Services, and probably drivers as well, so this is a much more cost effective way of using resources that aren't needed at weekends. And referring to good ol' Coun. Ian Bruce, once again popping up to get his name in the paper, if FGw don't have enough DMUs for the regular service, it's basically the fault of the Department of Transport since they dictate rolling stock allocation, and in fact when the FGW franchise was renewed the DfT transferred many class 153 and 158 units away. arlbergbahn
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3:16pm Thu 8 May 14

dorset & proud says...

arlbergbahn wrote:
dorset & proud wrote:
Micke12 wrote:
Seems to me to be a waste of motive powered resources, placing HST 125 MPH locomotive units on a line that can not sustain or even accept the speeds that these units can provide.

Would have been more sense to place type 37 diesel powered units on this run. If First can afford to run these 125 units on this line, then they have motive stock that is in excess of what they need. They may look nice, but the running costs that occur when you fail to run at optimum speed is quite substantial.
Also they're designed for speed rather than acceleration so will most likely take longer to make the journey than the standard stock, plus the track from Yeovil to Dorchester West is pretty knackered so they won't run at any great speed. In fact they may have to go slower due to their weight!
I doubt it, they're RA5 (same as a 37), whereas the class 67s that used to be used are RA8, so they have among the lowest axle loadings. Plus with 4500 hp they're decidedly superior in acceleration too. Certainly class 37's be nice, but they'd have to hire them in from Direct Rail Services, and probably drivers as well, so this is a much more cost effective way of using resources that aren't needed at weekends. And referring to good ol' Coun. Ian Bruce, once again popping up to get his name in the paper, if FGw don't have enough DMUs for the regular service, it's basically the fault of the Department of Transport since they dictate rolling stock allocation, and in fact when the FGW franchise was renewed the DfT transferred many class 153 and 158 units away.
You'd think Ian Bruce of all people would know that the allocations are done by the D(a)FT and not FGW.
[quote][p][bold]arlbergbahn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorset & proud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Micke12[/bold] wrote: Seems to me to be a waste of motive powered resources, placing HST 125 MPH locomotive units on a line that can not sustain or even accept the speeds that these units can provide. Would have been more sense to place type 37 diesel powered units on this run. If First can afford to run these 125 units on this line, then they have motive stock that is in excess of what they need. They may look nice, but the running costs that occur when you fail to run at optimum speed is quite substantial.[/p][/quote]Also they're designed for speed rather than acceleration so will most likely take longer to make the journey than the standard stock, plus the track from Yeovil to Dorchester West is pretty knackered so they won't run at any great speed. In fact they may have to go slower due to their weight![/p][/quote]I doubt it, they're RA5 (same as a 37), whereas the class 67s that used to be used are RA8, so they have among the lowest axle loadings. Plus with 4500 hp they're decidedly superior in acceleration too. Certainly class 37's be nice, but they'd have to hire them in from Direct Rail Services, and probably drivers as well, so this is a much more cost effective way of using resources that aren't needed at weekends. And referring to good ol' Coun. Ian Bruce, once again popping up to get his name in the paper, if FGw don't have enough DMUs for the regular service, it's basically the fault of the Department of Transport since they dictate rolling stock allocation, and in fact when the FGW franchise was renewed the DfT transferred many class 153 and 158 units away.[/p][/quote]You'd think Ian Bruce of all people would know that the allocations are done by the D(a)FT and not FGW. dorset & proud
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2:45pm Sat 10 May 14

weymouthfox says...

My aunt went back to Bath on Easter Sunday on a train of only two coaches. At 78 she had to stand all the way. She won't be using the train again.
My aunt went back to Bath on Easter Sunday on a train of only two coaches. At 78 she had to stand all the way. She won't be using the train again. weymouthfox
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