Villagers outraged as planning permission granted for travellers' site

Dorset Echo: CONTROVERSIAL: The proposed site at Piddlehinton CONTROVERSIAL: The proposed site at Piddlehinton

A TRAVELLERS’ site proposed for a Dorset village has been likened to a concentration camp.

The Gypsy Council claims that planned security measures are unacceptable and will deter travellers from using the site at Piddlehinton.

And questions have been raised over the way a decision to approve the site was reached.

Villagers reacted with anger when Dorset County Council’s planning committee granted permission for a temporary transit site at Piddlehinton for the next three summers.

The site is adjacent to a business park and residents say it will also have an adverse affect on the existing permanent travellers’ site in the village.

District councillor Jacqui Cuff said she was aware that the local parish council was looking to lodge a complaint with the county council after a chaotic meeting at County Hall to decide the application, and the authority has confirmed it is investigating the matter.

At one stage a proposal to refuse the scheme seemed to have been passed when two members supported it and only one refused, with the other committee members not voting.

The vote was later taken again and the motion failed by four votes against to two for and eventually the application was approved subject to a condition surrounding security on the site.

Cllr Cuff said she was ‘embarrassed’ by the way the meeting was handled.

She said: “The actual decision-making process and the way that was conducted was questionable.

“It certainly didn’t come across as professional as I would liked to have seen.”

Cllr Cuff said the residents had legitimate planning reasons for the scheme to fail, not least the impact on the neighbouring Enterprise Park and the adverse impact on residents of the village and the permanent site.

She also said the travellers using the temporary site would struggle to access facilities such as schools and shops.

With the search for permanent travellers sites continuing, Cllr Cuff said she believed Piddlehinton could be asked to shoulder the burden again in three years’ time as it was seen as the ‘point of least resistance’ compared to bigger populations in Weymouth and Poole where proposed sites have failed.

Jonathan Mair, Dorset County Council’s head of legal and democratic services, said: “We understand there were some concerns about how decisions were made at last week’s planning committee meeting, and we are investigating the matter.”

Concerns of the Gypsy Council

CONCERNS have been raised from the Gypsy Council over the stringent security measures that will be in force when the travellers site at Piddlehinton comes into use.

Joseph G Jones from the Gypsy Council likened the surveillance – with proposed 24-hour security and number plate recognition cameras at the entrance to the site – as like a ‘concentration camp’.

He said: “I just don’t know who would want to use it if they are saying they are going to use number plate recognition cameras on site – that means the police are effectively going to be running the site.”

Mr Jones added: “It sounds a bit racist really because it’s only gypsies and travellers it’s designed for and they are saying that it should have this in-built security.
“It’s a particularly unpleasant idea.”

Head of countryside and business development at Dorset County Council Dave Ayre stressed that the CCTV cameras were at the entrance to the neighbouring Piddlehinton Enterprise Park and were not trained on the travellers’ site.

He said: “It won’t just apply to the residents of the gypsy site, it’s for anybody who enters and exits the Enterprise Park so it will be all the businesses and their customers.”

Firms at the Enterprise Business Park said they were angered by the decision.

Graham McDonald and Roger Cole own Reprint which employs eight people.
Mr McDonald said: “We are all up in arms about it, we are all very annoyed. We do not think it is right that it has just been passed through. It just doesn’t feel right.”

Ian Ring, who owns the Blastech firm on the park, said: “I am against the site being set up unless it is really well policed and from what I understand, it won’t be.

“Most people on the business park are against it.

“I am the president of the rugby club and when we have had temporary travellers in the past, we have had instances of the club being broken into and fly tipping at the same time they are here.”

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7:22am Wed 14 May 14

Phaedrus says...

While many travellers are good honest people, we all know there have been serious problems with litter, damage, and criminal activity at and around many sites. Taking precautions which will also protect the travellers is hardly racist. Provided there is a clear commitment to use of security data in a wholly ethical manner in line with data protection rules I really don't see that the travellers have a legitimate complaint.
While many travellers are good honest people, we all know there have been serious problems with litter, damage, and criminal activity at and around many sites. Taking precautions which will also protect the travellers is hardly racist. Provided there is a clear commitment to use of security data in a wholly ethical manner in line with data protection rules I really don't see that the travellers have a legitimate complaint. Phaedrus
  • Score: 22

7:30am Wed 14 May 14

Rocksalt says...

One might argue that it's racist that only a narrowly defined group of 'Travellers' are provided with sites. I don't suppose that other folk ( including what we used to call New Age Travellers) who chose to roam round in the summer can just rock up and use the site.
One might argue that it's racist that only a narrowly defined group of 'Travellers' are provided with sites. I don't suppose that other folk ( including what we used to call New Age Travellers) who chose to roam round in the summer can just rock up and use the site. Rocksalt
  • Score: 15

7:50am Wed 14 May 14

MrTomSmith says...

Joseph E Jones plays the racist card.............mak
es me sick
Joseph E Jones plays the racist card.............mak es me sick MrTomSmith
  • Score: 20

8:08am Wed 14 May 14

Hippyhooker says...

"Sounds a bit racist" Translated means there is nothing racist about it but I will use the racist card !
"Sounds a bit racist" Translated means there is nothing racist about it but I will use the racist card ! Hippyhooker
  • Score: 20

8:29am Wed 14 May 14

JackJohnson says...

Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge.

Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer?

I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances.
Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge. Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer? I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances. JackJohnson
  • Score: 38

8:42am Wed 14 May 14

cosmick says...

Phaedrus wrote:
While many travellers are good honest people, we all know there have been serious problems with litter, damage, and criminal activity at and around many sites. Taking precautions which will also protect the travellers is hardly racist. Provided there is a clear commitment to use of security data in a wholly ethical manner in line with data protection rules I really don't see that the travellers have a legitimate complaint.
Good honest people?
[quote][p][bold]Phaedrus[/bold] wrote: While many travellers are good honest people, we all know there have been serious problems with litter, damage, and criminal activity at and around many sites. Taking precautions which will also protect the travellers is hardly racist. Provided there is a clear commitment to use of security data in a wholly ethical manner in line with data protection rules I really don't see that the travellers have a legitimate complaint.[/p][/quote]Good honest people? cosmick
  • Score: 7

9:24am Wed 14 May 14

cj07589 says...

JackJohnson wrote:
Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge. Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer? I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances.
Spot on but nobody has the balls in this increasely politically correct country to tell it straight. I feel very sorry for Piddlehinton especially the business on the industrial estate being treated like third class citizens because it's out of sight and out of mind to push the problem on elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge. Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer? I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances.[/p][/quote]Spot on but nobody has the balls in this increasely politically correct country to tell it straight. I feel very sorry for Piddlehinton especially the business on the industrial estate being treated like third class citizens because it's out of sight and out of mind to push the problem on elsewhere. cj07589
  • Score: 24

10:13am Wed 14 May 14

shy talk says...

I expect some people would love to live in a Gated Community, with all that security.
I expect some people would love to live in a Gated Community, with all that security. shy talk
  • Score: 10

10:14am Wed 14 May 14

MaidofDorset says...

We all know that business parks which are 'unmanned' overnight and weekends are high risk for fuel and machinery theft. Perhaps the authorities would like to put the CCTV up on the business park free of charge.

Small businessmen may not be a ethnic minority but most of them struggle to survive and deserve as much help and consideration as the travellers.
We all know that business parks which are 'unmanned' overnight and weekends are high risk for fuel and machinery theft. Perhaps the authorities would like to put the CCTV up on the business park free of charge. Small businessmen may not be a ethnic minority but most of them struggle to survive and deserve as much help and consideration as the travellers. MaidofDorset
  • Score: 19

11:36am Wed 14 May 14

koeterwaals says...

Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:-

What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them? koeterwaals
  • Score: 1

11:40am Wed 14 May 14

koeterwaals says...

cj07589 wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge. Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer? I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances.
Spot on but nobody has the balls in this increasely politically correct country to tell it straight. I feel very sorry for Piddlehinton especially the business on the industrial estate being treated like third class citizens because it's out of sight and out of mind to push the problem on elsewhere.
I agree too.
Perhaps we should all buy a dirt cheap heap of a caravan and park it on the site. If we (the normal residential tax payers) were told that we were not allowed to be there then that would surely be discrimination.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge. Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer? I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances.[/p][/quote]Spot on but nobody has the balls in this increasely politically correct country to tell it straight. I feel very sorry for Piddlehinton especially the business on the industrial estate being treated like third class citizens because it's out of sight and out of mind to push the problem on elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I agree too. Perhaps we should all buy a dirt cheap heap of a caravan and park it on the site. If we (the normal residential tax payers) were told that we were not allowed to be there then that would surely be discrimination. koeterwaals
  • Score: 10

11:49am Wed 14 May 14

cj07589 says...

koeterwaals wrote:
Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:-

What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
[quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide. cj07589
  • Score: 5

11:54am Wed 14 May 14

cj07589 says...

koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge. Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer? I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances.
Spot on but nobody has the balls in this increasely politically correct country to tell it straight. I feel very sorry for Piddlehinton especially the business on the industrial estate being treated like third class citizens because it's out of sight and out of mind to push the problem on elsewhere.
I agree too.
Perhaps we should all buy a dirt cheap heap of a caravan and park it on the site. If we (the normal residential tax payers) were told that we were not allowed to be there then that would surely be discrimination.
You're absolutely correct it is by definition 'discrimination' but it doesn't apply unless your the oppressed hard done by minority. I used to think we were all equals sadly this is not true in divided Britain.
[quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge. Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer? I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances.[/p][/quote]Spot on but nobody has the balls in this increasely politically correct country to tell it straight. I feel very sorry for Piddlehinton especially the business on the industrial estate being treated like third class citizens because it's out of sight and out of mind to push the problem on elsewhere.[/p][/quote]I agree too. Perhaps we should all buy a dirt cheap heap of a caravan and park it on the site. If we (the normal residential tax payers) were told that we were not allowed to be there then that would surely be discrimination.[/p][/quote]You're absolutely correct it is by definition 'discrimination' but it doesn't apply unless your the oppressed hard done by minority. I used to think we were all equals sadly this is not true in divided Britain. cj07589
  • Score: 5

12:02pm Wed 14 May 14

koeterwaals says...

cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:-

What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?).
As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer.
And yes you are a cynic :-)
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-) koeterwaals
  • Score: 1

12:30pm Wed 14 May 14

cj07589 says...

koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)
Sorry I can't help as I don't know definitely, the UKIP mep is in Dorchester today perhaps you could give them a call and get the answers you seek.
Regards cj
[quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)[/p][/quote]Sorry I can't help as I don't know definitely, the UKIP mep is in Dorchester today perhaps you could give them a call and get the answers you seek. Regards cj cj07589
  • Score: 1

1:04pm Wed 14 May 14

Sigurd Hoeberth says...

Vote UKIP.
Vote UKIP. Sigurd Hoeberth
  • Score: 0

1:24pm Wed 14 May 14

MrTomSmith says...

The UKIP Policy on Travellers is simple,they oppose them. We only have to do all this namby pamby building of sites because we are being ruled by Brussels. There is no question about what side of the fence they are on. Get out of Europe and then we can decide how our country is run, without any interference. I suspect the plan would be would be to make life as difficult as possible for them #VoteUkip
The UKIP Policy on Travellers is simple,they oppose them. We only have to do all this namby pamby building of sites because we are being ruled by Brussels. There is no question about what side of the fence they are on. Get out of Europe and then we can decide how our country is run, without any interference. I suspect the plan would be would be to make life as difficult as possible for them #VoteUkip MrTomSmith
  • Score: 0

1:32pm Wed 14 May 14

JamesYoung says...

I am glad to see this site has gone ahead.
I now look forward to all the benefits reaped:
1. No more travellers taking up lay bys, car parks or private land anywhere within a 25 mile radius
2. Lots of income from the rentals on these plots which i am sure will be calculated based on the current rate for a housing association home, discounted by plot size
3. Additional parking revenues from these travellers visiting Dorchester and Weymouth, as they will presumably now pay for parking with every visit.
I am glad to see this site has gone ahead. I now look forward to all the benefits reaped: 1. No more travellers taking up lay bys, car parks or private land anywhere within a 25 mile radius 2. Lots of income from the rentals on these plots which i am sure will be calculated based on the current rate for a housing association home, discounted by plot size 3. Additional parking revenues from these travellers visiting Dorchester and Weymouth, as they will presumably now pay for parking with every visit. JamesYoung
  • Score: 1

1:37pm Wed 14 May 14

JamesYoung says...

Rocksalt wrote:
One might argue that it's racist that only a narrowly defined group of 'Travellers' are provided with sites. I don't suppose that other folk ( including what we used to call New Age Travellers) who chose to roam round in the summer can just rock up and use the site.
One might indeed argue that it's racism....but first you have to prove that Travellers are a distinct race.

"More specifically, they found that Q188R was found in 100% of Traveller samples, and in 89% of other Irish samples, indicating that the Traveller group was typical of the larger Irish indigenous population."

Murphy, M. et al 1999. "Genetic basis of transferase-deficien
t galactosaemia in Ireland and the population history of the Irish Travellers", European Journal of Human Genetics (July 1999, Volume 7, Number 5, pp. 549–554)

This was study of a specific genetic defect. It's found in 100% of travellers and 89% of other Irish people. Conclusion: Irish people and travellers are one and the same, but closer breeding within the traveller community has increased the concentration of this defect. This does not make them a distinct race any more than having brown eyes makes one a distinct race.
[quote][p][bold]Rocksalt[/bold] wrote: One might argue that it's racist that only a narrowly defined group of 'Travellers' are provided with sites. I don't suppose that other folk ( including what we used to call New Age Travellers) who chose to roam round in the summer can just rock up and use the site.[/p][/quote]One might indeed argue that it's racism....but first you have to prove that Travellers are a distinct race. "More specifically, they found that Q188R was found in 100% of Traveller samples, and in 89% of other Irish samples, indicating that the Traveller group was typical of the larger Irish indigenous population." Murphy, M. et al 1999. "Genetic basis of transferase-deficien t galactosaemia in Ireland and the population history of the Irish Travellers", European Journal of Human Genetics (July 1999, Volume 7, Number 5, pp. 549–554) This was study of a specific genetic defect. It's found in 100% of travellers and 89% of other Irish people. Conclusion: Irish people and travellers are one and the same, but closer breeding within the traveller community has increased the concentration of this defect. This does not make them a distinct race any more than having brown eyes makes one a distinct race. JamesYoung
  • Score: 6

2:21pm Wed 14 May 14

Goldman says...

I find comparing this site to a concentration camp very distasteful. Aprox 10 million people died in these camps including many gypsys. The Gypsy Council (never heard of them) would be wise in using such wording again. If you don't like it then the simple matter is don't come here.
I find comparing this site to a concentration camp very distasteful. Aprox 10 million people died in these camps including many gypsys. The Gypsy Council (never heard of them) would be wise in using such wording again. If you don't like it then the simple matter is don't come here. Goldman
  • Score: 19

3:34pm Wed 14 May 14

livid99 says...

koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:-

What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?).
As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer.
And yes you are a cynic :-)
I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that.
Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years
[quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)[/p][/quote]I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years livid99
  • Score: 6

4:08pm Wed 14 May 14

woodsedge says...

livid99 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:-

What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?).
As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer.
And yes you are a cynic :-)
I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that.
Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years
Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really!

"Vote UKIP because.............
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....................
........I'm bl**dy angry"
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)[/p][/quote]I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years[/p][/quote]Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry" woodsedge
  • Score: -1

4:43pm Wed 14 May 14

cj07589 says...

woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)
I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years
Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"
The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)[/p][/quote]I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years[/p][/quote]Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"[/p][/quote]The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV. cj07589
  • Score: -7

6:10pm Wed 14 May 14

woodsedge says...

cj07589 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)
I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years
Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"
The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.
Cj, your angry rant (I Take when you use it capitals you are shouting) proves my point and I can assure you that I am a very, very happy man! You are the one that constantly comes on here publicly pledging your support to UKIP so you should expect to hear from those that do not agree with you, it's called a democracy old chum. As for minus scores I have gone from minus six to minus two so someone is agreeing with me. I think your frustration and that of UKIP's is that you have no answers only anger old son.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)[/p][/quote]I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years[/p][/quote]Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"[/p][/quote]The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.[/p][/quote]Cj, your angry rant (I Take when you use it capitals you are shouting) proves my point and I can assure you that I am a very, very happy man! You are the one that constantly comes on here publicly pledging your support to UKIP so you should expect to hear from those that do not agree with you, it's called a democracy old chum. As for minus scores I have gone from minus six to minus two so someone is agreeing with me. I think your frustration and that of UKIP's is that you have no answers only anger old son. woodsedge
  • Score: 6

7:06pm Wed 14 May 14

radiator says...

I had to sit here and laugh reading at some of these responses about this story, what started about the travellers site has turned into anti ukip again. I wonder where you anti brigade will cast your vote? not conservative or lib/dems Ill bet that only leaves Labour with their communist thinking trade union leaders calling the shots and trying to bring this country to its knees.
I had to sit here and laugh reading at some of these responses about this story, what started about the travellers site has turned into anti ukip again. I wonder where you anti brigade will cast your vote? not conservative or lib/dems Ill bet that only leaves Labour with their communist thinking trade union leaders calling the shots and trying to bring this country to its knees. radiator
  • Score: -4

7:15pm Wed 14 May 14

Sorted Echo says...

I find the term 'traveller' ridiculous in situations like this where groups of people want to settle on a piece of land. There are tens of thousands of people living on canal boats around the UK who have no such rights. Lets be more specific and stop tarring everyone who choses to be nomadic with the same brush.
I find the term 'traveller' ridiculous in situations like this where groups of people want to settle on a piece of land. There are tens of thousands of people living on canal boats around the UK who have no such rights. Lets be more specific and stop tarring everyone who choses to be nomadic with the same brush. Sorted Echo
  • Score: 2

7:32pm Wed 14 May 14

westbaywonder says...

cj07589 wrote:
JackJohnson wrote:
Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge. Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer? I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances.
Spot on but nobody has the balls in this increasely politically correct country to tell it straight. I feel very sorry for Piddlehinton especially the business on the industrial estate being treated like third class citizens because it's out of sight and out of mind to push the problem on elsewhere.
"Nobody has the balls in this increasingly politically correct country to tell it straight" ?
Too true, we need more people like our very own Sigurd!
Sigurd is top man on here and long shall it continue!
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JackJohnson[/bold] wrote: Its a bit racist to provide travellers with a site to park their caravans on, free of charge. Wheres my free holiday accomodation for the summer? I think we all know why he doesn't want 24hr on-site security and ANPR cameras at the entrances.[/p][/quote]Spot on but nobody has the balls in this increasely politically correct country to tell it straight. I feel very sorry for Piddlehinton especially the business on the industrial estate being treated like third class citizens because it's out of sight and out of mind to push the problem on elsewhere.[/p][/quote]"Nobody has the balls in this increasingly politically correct country to tell it straight" ? Too true, we need more people like our very own Sigurd! Sigurd is top man on here and long shall it continue! westbaywonder
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Wed 14 May 14

westbaywonder says...

May be a good time to start asking the Steam Fair company to cough up for this, asked when they are moving or why they are here and the answer is the Steam fair,year in and year out.
Take the pressure off the local citizens and put some of it on the Steam fair company.
Notice how the locals have to scrape the entrance fee together year after year but the (visitors) have no problem with it.
Time for the Steam fair to take some responsibility or are the powers that be too scared to confront them?
May be a good time to start asking the Steam Fair company to cough up for this, asked when they are moving or why they are here and the answer is the Steam fair,year in and year out. Take the pressure off the local citizens and put some of it on the Steam fair company. Notice how the locals have to scrape the entrance fee together year after year but the (visitors) have no problem with it. Time for the Steam fair to take some responsibility or are the powers that be too scared to confront them? westbaywonder
  • Score: 2

8:14pm Wed 14 May 14

JackJohnson says...

westbaywonder wrote:
May be a good time to start asking the Steam Fair company to cough up for this, asked when they are moving or why they are here and the answer is the Steam fair,year in and year out.
Take the pressure off the local citizens and put some of it on the Steam fair company.
Notice how the locals have to scrape the entrance fee together year after year but the (visitors) have no problem with it.
Time for the Steam fair to take some responsibility or are the powers that be too scared to confront them?
Perhaps they should also cough up for the hotel, b&b and camp site bills for all the non-traveller people who turn up early for Steam Fair? I've let some friends use a couple of spare rooms. Perhaps the Steam Fair could give me £200 for doing that? Maybe the Steam Fair could give me some extra towards any meals they have while they're here? ;-)

I think not.

The only people who should pay for the travellers, and the damage they do, are the travellers. Nobody else is responsible for them.
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: May be a good time to start asking the Steam Fair company to cough up for this, asked when they are moving or why they are here and the answer is the Steam fair,year in and year out. Take the pressure off the local citizens and put some of it on the Steam fair company. Notice how the locals have to scrape the entrance fee together year after year but the (visitors) have no problem with it. Time for the Steam fair to take some responsibility or are the powers that be too scared to confront them?[/p][/quote]Perhaps they should also cough up for the hotel, b&b and camp site bills for all the non-traveller people who turn up early for Steam Fair? I've let some friends use a couple of spare rooms. Perhaps the Steam Fair could give me £200 for doing that? Maybe the Steam Fair could give me some extra towards any meals they have while they're here? ;-) I think not. The only people who should pay for the travellers, and the damage they do, are the travellers. Nobody else is responsible for them. JackJohnson
  • Score: 6

8:21pm Wed 14 May 14

westbaywonder says...

I give up !!
I give up !! westbaywonder
  • Score: 1

9:06pm Wed 14 May 14

cj07589 says...

radiator wrote:
I had to sit here and laugh reading at some of these responses about this story, what started about the travellers site has turned into anti ukip again. I wonder where you anti brigade will cast your vote? not conservative or lib/dems Ill bet that only leaves Labour with their communist thinking trade union leaders calling the shots and trying to bring this country to its knees.
Yes nasty I've been saying all along look at Woodsedge et al posts constantly filled with negative spiteful undertones. Preaching the same old broken tune offer nothing new it is quite pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]radiator[/bold] wrote: I had to sit here and laugh reading at some of these responses about this story, what started about the travellers site has turned into anti ukip again. I wonder where you anti brigade will cast your vote? not conservative or lib/dems Ill bet that only leaves Labour with their communist thinking trade union leaders calling the shots and trying to bring this country to its knees.[/p][/quote]Yes nasty I've been saying all along look at Woodsedge et al posts constantly filled with negative spiteful undertones. Preaching the same old broken tune offer nothing new it is quite pathetic. cj07589
  • Score: -4

9:32pm Wed 14 May 14

woodsedge says...

Free speech The right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint.
Free speech The right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint. woodsedge
  • Score: 2

10:00pm Wed 14 May 14

livid99 says...

cj07589 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)
I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years
Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"
The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.
Would you like to tell us UKIP's policy on pensions and care for the elderly then. Surely you must know what they are ? I followed your suggestions and searched myself. Found nothing, so perhaps - as a devout supporter- you can tell us ? Forget the insults,anger and diversions, If you are willing to tell us we should vote for UKIP, then you should be prepared to answer my question. If you cannot, because you don't know their policy, then at least have the balls to say so rather than hurling insults. its a simple enough question.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)[/p][/quote]I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years[/p][/quote]Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"[/p][/quote]The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.[/p][/quote]Would you like to tell us UKIP's policy on pensions and care for the elderly then. Surely you must know what they are ? I followed your suggestions and searched myself. Found nothing, so perhaps - as a devout supporter- you can tell us ? Forget the insults,anger and diversions, If you are willing to tell us we should vote for UKIP, then you should be prepared to answer my question. If you cannot, because you don't know their policy, then at least have the balls to say so rather than hurling insults. its a simple enough question. livid99
  • Score: 2

10:27pm Wed 14 May 14

cj07589 says...

livid99 wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)
I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years
Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"
The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.
Would you like to tell us UKIP's policy on pensions and care for the elderly then. Surely you must know what they are ? I followed your suggestions and searched myself. Found nothing, so perhaps - as a devout supporter- you can tell us ? Forget the insults,anger and diversions, If you are willing to tell us we should vote for UKIP, then you should be prepared to answer my question. If you cannot, because you don't know their policy, then at least have the balls to say so rather than hurling insults. its a simple enough question.
I am mearly a voter who has reached a decision, does this insult you? If not why not?
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)[/p][/quote]I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years[/p][/quote]Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"[/p][/quote]The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.[/p][/quote]Would you like to tell us UKIP's policy on pensions and care for the elderly then. Surely you must know what they are ? I followed your suggestions and searched myself. Found nothing, so perhaps - as a devout supporter- you can tell us ? Forget the insults,anger and diversions, If you are willing to tell us we should vote for UKIP, then you should be prepared to answer my question. If you cannot, because you don't know their policy, then at least have the balls to say so rather than hurling insults. its a simple enough question.[/p][/quote]I am mearly a voter who has reached a decision, does this insult you? If not why not? cj07589
  • Score: -3

10:30pm Wed 14 May 14

oldbrock says...

Phaedrus wrote:
While many travellers are good honest people, we all know there have been serious problems with litter, damage, and criminal activity at and around many sites. Taking precautions which will also protect the travellers is hardly racist. Provided there is a clear commitment to use of security data in a wholly ethical manner in line with data protection rules I really don't see that the travellers have a legitimate complaint.
they don't pay any council tax etc so what have they got to say? most are not TRUE GYPSIES anyway, tarmac layers and conmen, when they leave sites like at WEYMOUTH recently they leave disgusting piles of rubbish, just rubbing residents noses in it, THEY have to pay and are subject to the DUSTBIN GESTAPO, "don't put that bit of plastic film in, it'll contaminate the lot!" enough is enough, there are plenty of freeloaders in parliament, taking us all for as much as they can get, now the powers that be, want to foist this lot on taxpayers?
[quote][p][bold]Phaedrus[/bold] wrote: While many travellers are good honest people, we all know there have been serious problems with litter, damage, and criminal activity at and around many sites. Taking precautions which will also protect the travellers is hardly racist. Provided there is a clear commitment to use of security data in a wholly ethical manner in line with data protection rules I really don't see that the travellers have a legitimate complaint.[/p][/quote]they don't pay any council tax etc so what have they got to say? most are not TRUE GYPSIES anyway, tarmac layers and conmen, when they leave sites like at WEYMOUTH recently they leave disgusting piles of rubbish, just rubbing residents noses in it, THEY have to pay and are subject to the DUSTBIN GESTAPO, "don't put that bit of plastic film in, it'll contaminate the lot!" enough is enough, there are plenty of freeloaders in parliament, taking us all for as much as they can get, now the powers that be, want to foist this lot on taxpayers? oldbrock
  • Score: 2

10:37pm Wed 14 May 14

oldbrock says...

MaidofDorset wrote:
We all know that business parks which are 'unmanned' overnight and weekends are high risk for fuel and machinery theft. Perhaps the authorities would like to put the CCTV up on the business park free of charge.

Small businessmen may not be a ethnic minority but most of them struggle to survive and deserve as much help and consideration as the travellers.
moreso, being as business pays tax etc, I bet there will be vicars checking church roofs regular, Piddlehinton seems such a quiet little village, fancy shoving that lot at them, I think they need all the tackle available to watch that lot 24hrs a day, if it only identifies the persons who leave piles of soiled nappies and other disgusting rubbish, such as what was left on the SWANNERY carpark WEYMOUTH recently......
[quote][p][bold]MaidofDorset[/bold] wrote: We all know that business parks which are 'unmanned' overnight and weekends are high risk for fuel and machinery theft. Perhaps the authorities would like to put the CCTV up on the business park free of charge. Small businessmen may not be a ethnic minority but most of them struggle to survive and deserve as much help and consideration as the travellers.[/p][/quote]moreso, being as business pays tax etc, I bet there will be vicars checking church roofs regular, Piddlehinton seems such a quiet little village, fancy shoving that lot at them, I think they need all the tackle available to watch that lot 24hrs a day, if it only identifies the persons who leave piles of soiled nappies and other disgusting rubbish, such as what was left on the SWANNERY carpark WEYMOUTH recently...... oldbrock
  • Score: 3

10:50pm Wed 14 May 14

oldbrock says...

cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:-

What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
you cant talk about TORIES like that!!!!!!! all correct though, just missed out the DIVIDE and RULE policies, sick weak and vulnerable one month, unemployed another month, too many bedrooms yet another month, "rich" pensioners the next pick another section of society, vilify them and move on... next month? Mind you LIEBOUR will only tax us more and as for the TRAITOROUS LibDumbs, they will have to pick-a-side before they can issue policies..........wh
ats left! fringe parties , including UKIP with the lizardlike leader, loaded with money and trying to appeal to the LADDISH element, ALL the same, tell you stories, get in and do just as they like, at OUR expense of course! No wonder nobody is interested.... we've been stung before, you end up wary of all the Bs
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]you cant talk about TORIES like that!!!!!!! all correct though, just missed out the DIVIDE and RULE policies, sick weak and vulnerable one month, unemployed another month, too many bedrooms yet another month, "rich" pensioners the next pick another section of society, vilify them and move on... next month? Mind you LIEBOUR will only tax us more and as for the TRAITOROUS LibDumbs, they will have to pick-a-side before they can issue policies..........wh ats left! fringe parties , including UKIP with the lizardlike leader, loaded with money and trying to appeal to the LADDISH element, ALL the same, tell you stories, get in and do just as they like, at OUR expense of course! No wonder nobody is interested.... we've been stung before, you end up wary of all the Bs oldbrock
  • Score: 2

11:00pm Wed 14 May 14

cj07589 says...

livid99 wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)
I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years
Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"
The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.
Would you like to tell us UKIP's policy on pensions and care for the elderly then. Surely you must know what they are ? I followed your suggestions and searched myself. Found nothing, so perhaps - as a devout supporter- you can tell us ? Forget the insults,anger and diversions, If you are willing to tell us we should vote for UKIP, then you should be prepared to answer my question. If you cannot, because you don't know their policy, then at least have the balls to say so rather than hurling insults. its a simple enough question.
I'm not insulting Woodsedge what I have said is factually correct over numerous contributions offered it always follow a consistent theme of negativity and intolerance to anything UKIP despite not having any experience to bear. UKIP for me is about exiting the EU the Tory's have constantly changed their position lied and denied a referendum prior to the 2015 GE's and wouldn't trust labour to run a bath.
I believe firmly that voting is a very personal sometimes sensitive matter and deliberately choose not to advise others (this includes my family)
I am sorry if you consider my assuming a passive position on politics as not having 'balls', i genuinely aim to debate based around facts rather than subjective personal opinion and apologise if you find this insulting.
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)[/p][/quote]I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years[/p][/quote]Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"[/p][/quote]The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.[/p][/quote]Would you like to tell us UKIP's policy on pensions and care for the elderly then. Surely you must know what they are ? I followed your suggestions and searched myself. Found nothing, so perhaps - as a devout supporter- you can tell us ? Forget the insults,anger and diversions, If you are willing to tell us we should vote for UKIP, then you should be prepared to answer my question. If you cannot, because you don't know their policy, then at least have the balls to say so rather than hurling insults. its a simple enough question.[/p][/quote]I'm not insulting Woodsedge what I have said is factually correct over numerous contributions offered it always follow a consistent theme of negativity and intolerance to anything UKIP despite not having any experience to bear. UKIP for me is about exiting the EU the Tory's have constantly changed their position lied and denied a referendum prior to the 2015 GE's and wouldn't trust labour to run a bath. I believe firmly that voting is a very personal sometimes sensitive matter and deliberately choose not to advise others (this includes my family) I am sorry if you consider my assuming a passive position on politics as not having 'balls', i genuinely aim to debate based around facts rather than subjective personal opinion and apologise if you find this insulting. cj07589
  • Score: -1

8:07am Fri 16 May 14

livid99 says...

cj07589 wrote:
livid99 wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
woodsedge wrote:
livid99 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
koeterwaals wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?
With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.
Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)
I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years
Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"
The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.
Would you like to tell us UKIP's policy on pensions and care for the elderly then. Surely you must know what they are ? I followed your suggestions and searched myself. Found nothing, so perhaps - as a devout supporter- you can tell us ? Forget the insults,anger and diversions, If you are willing to tell us we should vote for UKIP, then you should be prepared to answer my question. If you cannot, because you don't know their policy, then at least have the balls to say so rather than hurling insults. its a simple enough question.
I am mearly a voter who has reached a decision, does this insult you? If not why not?
If you have reached a decision based on a lack of information, then good for you. No, it doesn't insult me, but it also clearly ignores what I said too. Hardly surprising really.
What does annoy me is the constant "Vote UKIP ! ", but when questions are asked "Why vote UKIP ??"....the reasons appear to be non-existent unless you think immigrants are the cause of all problems.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]koeterwaals[/bold] wrote: Just for my own interest, and I don't say whether I am against them or for them, can anyone tell me:- What is UKIP's policy regarding traveller sites? Do they support these sites or will they get rid of them? Or do they not have a policy about them?[/p][/quote]With all due respect why don't you ask their representatives directly rather than canvassing opinions from the general public who most likely don't know. Call me a cynic, but I sincerely hope your not fishing on behalf of the daily smear team. Let's hope not, sadly on this website there are a group of vile hard nosed bigots who constructively seek any opportunity to spread, hate, incorrect information and feed the flame of intolerance and social divide.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have tried looking at their website and also did a general search but there seems to be nothing whatsoever about a policy regarding this. That is the reason I asked here (or are we not allowed to ask about UKIP policy here?). As there are so many vociferous supporters of UKIP on these fora, I thought someone might know a definitive answer (with possibly a link) and be able to give me a friendly answer. And yes you are a cynic :-)[/p][/quote]I asked a very similar thing the other day here regarding UKIP policy on pensions and care for the elderly. Was basically told to go and google it - which I did and found nothing. Its quite strange how the vociferous UKIP supporters are either happy to turn down and opportunity to promote their beloved party, or more likely (like the rest of us) don't have a clue what policies UKIP have. They appear to be a one-personality, one-policy opportunisitc party who seem to think all our problems can be blamed on immigrants or Europe, but we're not allowed to say that. Bunch of clowns - will not be getting my vote in a million years[/p][/quote]Your not alone, every time you try to debate policy with these UKIP supporters you just get the "Farage" response i.e. Just get angry and use inflammatory and insulting language. I am still waiting for the UKIP definition of a 'local' and apparently the latest is that they have know local policy so that they can be flexible if elected! You couldn't make it up really! "Vote UKIP because............. .................... .................... .................... ........I'm bl**dy angry"[/p][/quote]The same old TWADDLE from you Woodsedge again diverting the thread to peddle your own political agenda seeking the only answer you wish to hear. The only person who appears to be angry here is YOU, constant mocking and negativity and offering nothing positive or helpful. The reason you always get negative votes is because you are usually wrong and you know it but continue to be in denial. The irony of calling others angry is laughable, I think we shall add hypocrite to your CV.[/p][/quote]Would you like to tell us UKIP's policy on pensions and care for the elderly then. Surely you must know what they are ? I followed your suggestions and searched myself. Found nothing, so perhaps - as a devout supporter- you can tell us ? Forget the insults,anger and diversions, If you are willing to tell us we should vote for UKIP, then you should be prepared to answer my question. If you cannot, because you don't know their policy, then at least have the balls to say so rather than hurling insults. its a simple enough question.[/p][/quote]I am mearly a voter who has reached a decision, does this insult you? If not why not?[/p][/quote]If you have reached a decision based on a lack of information, then good for you. No, it doesn't insult me, but it also clearly ignores what I said too. Hardly surprising really. What does annoy me is the constant "Vote UKIP ! ", but when questions are asked "Why vote UKIP ??"....the reasons appear to be non-existent unless you think immigrants are the cause of all problems. livid99
  • Score: 2

7:20pm Fri 16 May 14

westbaywonder says...

"Vote UKIP ! " citizen.
"Vote UKIP ! " citizen. westbaywonder
  • Score: -1

7:33am Sat 17 May 14

livid99 says...

westbaywonder wrote:
"Vote UKIP ! " citizen.
just for you - http://static.someec
ards.com/someecards/
usercards/1320635914
905_6260447.png
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: "Vote UKIP ! " citizen.[/p][/quote]just for you - http://static.someec ards.com/someecards/ usercards/1320635914 905_6260447.png livid99
  • Score: 1

8:15am Sat 17 May 14

cj07589 says...

livid99 wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
"Vote UKIP ! " citizen.
just for you - http://static.someec

ards.com/someecards/

usercards/1320635914

905_6260447.png
Presumably more preduijuiced own agenda peddling from the rent a mob where does this article refer to politics?
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: "Vote UKIP ! " citizen.[/p][/quote]just for you - http://static.someec ards.com/someecards/ usercards/1320635914 905_6260447.png[/p][/quote]Presumably more preduijuiced own agenda peddling from the rent a mob where does this article refer to politics? cj07589
  • Score: 0

9:42pm Sun 18 May 14

livid99 says...

cj07589 wrote:
livid99 wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
"Vote UKIP ! " citizen.
just for you - http://static.someec


ards.com/someecards/


usercards/1320635914


905_6260447.png
Presumably more preduijuiced own agenda peddling from the rent a mob where does this article refer to politics?
Have you discovered whether ukip have a policy on pensions or health care for the elderly yet ??
I'm rather surprised that although i have asked several times, you have not been able to answer this fairly basic, and important, question.
But it tells us all we need to know doesn't it.....
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: "Vote UKIP ! " citizen.[/p][/quote]just for you - http://static.someec ards.com/someecards/ usercards/1320635914 905_6260447.png[/p][/quote]Presumably more preduijuiced own agenda peddling from the rent a mob where does this article refer to politics?[/p][/quote]Have you discovered whether ukip have a policy on pensions or health care for the elderly yet ?? I'm rather surprised that although i have asked several times, you have not been able to answer this fairly basic, and important, question. But it tells us all we need to know doesn't it..... livid99
  • Score: 0

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