Weymouth misses out after major government handout for Dorset

Weymouth misses out after major government handout for Dorset

Weymouth misses out after major government handout for Dorset

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WEYMOUTH has missed out on securing much-needed regeneration funding while £66 million is going to Bournemouth and Poole.

Concerns were expressed today that the borough – which is in need of an economic boost and could be losing its cross-Channel ferry service – had been overlooked in a deal that will see large amounts of money invested in the east of the county.

The proposed Jurassica visitor attraction on Portland is the only project in this area to get backing.

The government today announced that £66.3 million Growth Deal funding will be invested in Dorset through the Local Enterprise Partnership’s (LEP) Strategic Economic Plan (SEP) economic bids that will create thousands of jobs, allow thousands more homes to be built and trigger millions in public and private investment.

It was heralded as a ‘major step forward’ for the Dorset economy by LEP chairman Gordon Page.

While it is acknowledged that not all the 50 Dorset projects were going to get support –only six have – it is argued the announcement is heavily weighted in favour of the conurbation.

Most of the funding will support a package of road schemes to improve access to the Port of Poole and Bournemouth Airport. There is also money for a research centre at Bournemouth University to attract innovative orthopaedics businesses to Dorset, plus funding for new engineering, manufacturing and business service facilities at Bournemouth and Poole College.

The Dorset LEP stressed ‘no one has lost out’ and this was the first stage in a process with other bids being brought to the table for consideration in the next round of funding.

Among unsuccessful bids were the Western Growth Hub, a Weymouth regeneration project designed to unlock the area’s economic potential including supporting the development of the Pavilion peninsula and improved ferry terminal facilities. This is among the avenues being explored to finance the refurbishment of a berth for a new super-ferry Condor Ferries wants to buy.

It was stated in the bid that Weymouth is an area of ‘relative depravation’ and needed a boost to instil confidence in the private sector to invest.

Borough council leisure and tourism spokesman Cllr Rachel Rogers said: “It’s great to see the government investing large amounts of money in Dorset but it’s disappointing so much of it is directed towards the east.

“This area has struggled and it would have been good to see this funding spread more widely.”

She said Weymouth and West Dorset was ‘grossly underrepresented’ on the LEP board so the announcement was ‘not surprising.’ The borough’s economic development spokesman Cllr Ray Nowak added: “There needs to be a more holistic approach with all areas taken into account. There are pockets of high deprivation here and we need investment.”

Nigel Reed of the Weymouth Business Improvement District (BID) said: “We need expenditure here just as much. There’s a feeling in the business community that the LEP is Bournemouth and Poole-centric and there should be more people on the board from this area who can influence discussions.”

IT’S not all bad news – an amount thought to be £300,000 has been awarded to kick start a feasibility study in the first phase of the Jurassica project, Science journalist Michael Hanlon’s vision to build a subterranean geological park in an old quarry on Portland.

Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast.

As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.

The project has the support of a host of businesses as well as high profile figures including Sir David Attenborough.

Michael Hanlon said yesterday: “If the government is indeed in a position to support Jurassica, which we very much hope it is, this will be a massive boost to the Jurassic Coast and will help to revive the economy of one of the most beautiful but neglected parts of the country.

“Whatever happens we’re very grateful to the LEP team who have been assisting us.”

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8:05am Mon 7 Jul 14

arlbergbahn says...

"It was stated in the bid that Weymouth is an area of ‘relative depravation’"

Freudian slip of the week.
:D
"It was stated in the bid that Weymouth is an area of ‘relative depravation’" Freudian slip of the week. :D arlbergbahn
  • Score: 29

8:10am Mon 7 Jul 14

notweymouth says...

"It was stated in the bid that Weymouth is an area of ‘relative depravation’ "

It must be work experience week at the Echo again...
"It was stated in the bid that Weymouth is an area of ‘relative depravation’ " It must be work experience week at the Echo again... notweymouth
  • Score: 17

8:19am Mon 7 Jul 14

Rocksalt says...

Investment in Bournemouth is effectively of more benefit to Hampshire than much of Dorset. As an aside, does anyone here remember voting for members of the LEP. No, me neither.
Investment in Bournemouth is effectively of more benefit to Hampshire than much of Dorset. As an aside, does anyone here remember voting for members of the LEP. No, me neither. Rocksalt
  • Score: 10

8:31am Mon 7 Jul 14

Rocksalt says...

Just had a look at the LEP Board. Seventeen members, only one of which doesn't seem to live in and /or have business interests in Bournemouth, Poole or East Dorset. Oh and those who are also local councillors are all from Poole, Bournemouth, Christchurch etc. Nevermind, they were all appointed by a transparent open competition.
Just had a look at the LEP Board. Seventeen members, only one of which doesn't seem to live in and /or have business interests in Bournemouth, Poole or East Dorset. Oh and those who are also local councillors are all from Poole, Bournemouth, Christchurch etc. Nevermind, they were all appointed by a transparent open competition. Rocksalt
  • Score: 23

9:41am Mon 7 Jul 14

bargain price says...

funny how Bournemouth and Poole don't want to be a part of Dorset until money is involved ...
funny how Bournemouth and Poole don't want to be a part of Dorset until money is involved ... bargain price
  • Score: 9

11:30am Mon 7 Jul 14

Isosceles says...

I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth.
Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast.
As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.
I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth. Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast. As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year. Isosceles
  • Score: 19

11:43am Mon 7 Jul 14

cosmick says...

Isosceles wrote:
I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth.
Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast.
As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.
It could, but i would be shock if it did. I still dont think this will happen.
Also i went to BOSCOME last week what a dump, empty shops and the area looked like *rap.
[quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth. Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast. As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.[/p][/quote]It could, but i would be shock if it did. I still dont think this will happen. Also i went to BOSCOME last week what a dump, empty shops and the area looked like *rap. cosmick
  • Score: 3

11:54am Mon 7 Jul 14

banknote says...

I'm not surprised.

Poole and Bournemouth have moved with the times: attracting conference trade, entertainment venues and pushing for better road links.

What has Weymouth & Portland Borough Council done - relied on the traditional holiday trade, that went out in the 1960/70's.
I'm not surprised. Poole and Bournemouth have moved with the times: attracting conference trade, entertainment venues and pushing for better road links. What has Weymouth & Portland Borough Council done - relied on the traditional holiday trade, that went out in the 1960/70's. banknote
  • Score: 23

12:42pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Simon 1965 says...

Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike.

Simon N.
Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N. Simon 1965
  • Score: 24

2:19pm Mon 7 Jul 14

arlbergbahn says...

cosmick wrote:
Isosceles wrote:
I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth.
Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast.
As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.
It could, but i would be shock if it did. I still dont think this will happen.
Also i went to BOSCOME last week what a dump, empty shops and the area looked like *rap.
Oh yes, and if you go along Poole High St it's really just the same, a lot of empty shops and 99p stores and a generally rundown feeling, and if you get a bus through Parkstone it's just the same. The perceived affluence of Poole is very skewed by the millionaires' row at Sandbanks. The actual town is really no different to Weymouth or many others.
[quote][p][bold]cosmick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth. Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast. As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.[/p][/quote]It could, but i would be shock if it did. I still dont think this will happen. Also i went to BOSCOME last week what a dump, empty shops and the area looked like *rap.[/p][/quote]Oh yes, and if you go along Poole High St it's really just the same, a lot of empty shops and 99p stores and a generally rundown feeling, and if you get a bus through Parkstone it's just the same. The perceived affluence of Poole is very skewed by the millionaires' row at Sandbanks. The actual town is really no different to Weymouth or many others. arlbergbahn
  • Score: 19

2:45pm Mon 7 Jul 14

melcombe boy says...

Simon 1965 wrote:
Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike.

Simon N.
We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be.
Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on.
All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways.
Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset.
It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!!
[quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.[/p][/quote]We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!! melcombe boy
  • Score: -7

3:40pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Rocksalt says...

Simon 1965 wrote:
Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike.

Simon N.
Firstly, what about the rest of Dorset. Secondly, so what ?,
[quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.[/p][/quote]Firstly, what about the rest of Dorset. Secondly, so what ?, Rocksalt
  • Score: -8

3:47pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Rocksalt says...

Re-reading the article again this evening, I see that two of the beneficiaries are Bournemouth University and Bournemouth College. Entirely coincidentally, I see that the Changed Chief Executives of both institutions are LEP board members.
Re-reading the article again this evening, I see that two of the beneficiaries are Bournemouth University and Bournemouth College. Entirely coincidentally, I see that the Changed Chief Executives of both institutions are LEP board members. Rocksalt
  • Score: 14

4:23pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Simon 1965 says...

melcombe boy wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.
We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!!
I really don`t think that Newquay and Penzance are that easy to get to, especially in tourist season, and Weston Super Mare was lucky enough to find itself in the path of the M5 - plenty of empty shops there as well by the way!

How you can say the Dorchester Road by-pass is inadequate or cheap is absolutely baffling. Before it was built, trying to get to Dorchester, Yeovil, South Wales or the Midlands was a nightmare - now its quick and straightforward.

Simon N.
[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.[/p][/quote]We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!![/p][/quote]I really don`t think that Newquay and Penzance are that easy to get to, especially in tourist season, and Weston Super Mare was lucky enough to find itself in the path of the M5 - plenty of empty shops there as well by the way! How you can say the Dorchester Road by-pass is inadequate or cheap is absolutely baffling. Before it was built, trying to get to Dorchester, Yeovil, South Wales or the Midlands was a nightmare - now its quick and straightforward. Simon N. Simon 1965
  • Score: 14

4:38pm Mon 7 Jul 14

HilaryS says...

notweymouth wrote:
"It was stated in the bid that Weymouth is an area of ‘relative depravation’ "

It must be work experience week at the Echo again...
Before you blame the Echo for this hilarious slip,have a look at the text of the Council's actual bid. That's the way it has been spelled, hence the Echo cleverly puts it in quote marks!
[quote][p][bold]notweymouth[/bold] wrote: "It was stated in the bid that Weymouth is an area of ‘relative depravation’ " It must be work experience week at the Echo again...[/p][/quote]Before you blame the Echo for this hilarious slip,have a look at the text of the Council's actual bid. That's the way it has been spelled, hence the Echo cleverly puts it in quote marks! HilaryS
  • Score: 8

4:51pm Mon 7 Jul 14

melcombe boy says...

Simon 1965 wrote:
melcombe boy wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.
We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!!
I really don`t think that Newquay and Penzance are that easy to get to, especially in tourist season, and Weston Super Mare was lucky enough to find itself in the path of the M5 - plenty of empty shops there as well by the way!

How you can say the Dorchester Road by-pass is inadequate or cheap is absolutely baffling. Before it was built, trying to get to Dorchester, Yeovil, South Wales or the Midlands was a nightmare - now its quick and straightforward.

Simon N.
Cornwall is pretty much connected to the rest of the Country through dual carriageways and the M5.
We need a proper dual carriageway through Dorset.
The Dorchester bypass and Weymouth bypass are relatively modern roads but inadequate to meet modern traffic flows.
Check out the road infrastructure in the rest of Europe and you will soon notice how far behind we are in this Country.
Take a look at the motorway network in Ireland. We are decades behind the rest.
[quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.[/p][/quote]We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!![/p][/quote]I really don`t think that Newquay and Penzance are that easy to get to, especially in tourist season, and Weston Super Mare was lucky enough to find itself in the path of the M5 - plenty of empty shops there as well by the way! How you can say the Dorchester Road by-pass is inadequate or cheap is absolutely baffling. Before it was built, trying to get to Dorchester, Yeovil, South Wales or the Midlands was a nightmare - now its quick and straightforward. Simon N.[/p][/quote]Cornwall is pretty much connected to the rest of the Country through dual carriageways and the M5. We need a proper dual carriageway through Dorset. The Dorchester bypass and Weymouth bypass are relatively modern roads but inadequate to meet modern traffic flows. Check out the road infrastructure in the rest of Europe and you will soon notice how far behind we are in this Country. Take a look at the motorway network in Ireland. We are decades behind the rest. melcombe boy
  • Score: 7

5:25pm Mon 7 Jul 14

stroller says...

just as well we didn't get any money with our useless, clueless council they,d only p it up the wall anyway!
just as well we didn't get any money with our useless, clueless council they,d only p it up the wall anyway! stroller
  • Score: 9

5:50pm Mon 7 Jul 14

ksmain says...

Simon 1965 wrote:
melcombe boy wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.
We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!!
I really don`t think that Newquay and Penzance are that easy to get to, especially in tourist season, and Weston Super Mare was lucky enough to find itself in the path of the M5 - plenty of empty shops there as well by the way!

How you can say the Dorchester Road by-pass is inadequate or cheap is absolutely baffling. Before it was built, trying to get to Dorchester, Yeovil, South Wales or the Midlands was a nightmare - now its quick and straightforward.

Simon N.
I agree with you there Simon. When I briefly worked in Cornwall the biggest traffic jam of the summer months was the one that led from the Bodmin bypass to Newquay!!!

Having been to Weston-Super-Mare recently, take one step behind the sea front and the place is a very seedy-looking dump - not the place you'd want to be around after nightfall (or even during the day). And have you ever tried to get to Bognor from the A27 - last time I did that I ended up in a 3 hour traffic jam around Chichester.

Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of east-of-the county vested interest on the Dorset LEP - it was never a good move when Bournemouth/Christch
urch joined Dorset in 1974. It has created a funding imbalance ever since.
[quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.[/p][/quote]We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!![/p][/quote]I really don`t think that Newquay and Penzance are that easy to get to, especially in tourist season, and Weston Super Mare was lucky enough to find itself in the path of the M5 - plenty of empty shops there as well by the way! How you can say the Dorchester Road by-pass is inadequate or cheap is absolutely baffling. Before it was built, trying to get to Dorchester, Yeovil, South Wales or the Midlands was a nightmare - now its quick and straightforward. Simon N.[/p][/quote]I agree with you there Simon. When I briefly worked in Cornwall the biggest traffic jam of the summer months was the one that led from the Bodmin bypass to Newquay!!! Having been to Weston-Super-Mare recently, take one step behind the sea front and the place is a very seedy-looking dump - not the place you'd want to be around after nightfall (or even during the day). And have you ever tried to get to Bognor from the A27 - last time I did that I ended up in a 3 hour traffic jam around Chichester. Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of east-of-the county vested interest on the Dorset LEP - it was never a good move when Bournemouth/Christch urch joined Dorset in 1974. It has created a funding imbalance ever since. ksmain
  • Score: 3

5:53pm Mon 7 Jul 14

ksmain says...

melcombe boy wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
melcombe boy wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.
We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!!
I really don`t think that Newquay and Penzance are that easy to get to, especially in tourist season, and Weston Super Mare was lucky enough to find itself in the path of the M5 - plenty of empty shops there as well by the way!

How you can say the Dorchester Road by-pass is inadequate or cheap is absolutely baffling. Before it was built, trying to get to Dorchester, Yeovil, South Wales or the Midlands was a nightmare - now its quick and straightforward.

Simon N.
Cornwall is pretty much connected to the rest of the Country through dual carriageways and the M5.
We need a proper dual carriageway through Dorset.
The Dorchester bypass and Weymouth bypass are relatively modern roads but inadequate to meet modern traffic flows.
Check out the road infrastructure in the rest of Europe and you will soon notice how far behind we are in this Country.
Take a look at the motorway network in Ireland. We are decades behind the rest.
Speaking as someone that used to do the journey regularly - it was ok up to Bodmin - beyond that it was an absolute nightmare. And you would never use the A38 via the Tamar Bridge!!!
[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.[/p][/quote]We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!![/p][/quote]I really don`t think that Newquay and Penzance are that easy to get to, especially in tourist season, and Weston Super Mare was lucky enough to find itself in the path of the M5 - plenty of empty shops there as well by the way! How you can say the Dorchester Road by-pass is inadequate or cheap is absolutely baffling. Before it was built, trying to get to Dorchester, Yeovil, South Wales or the Midlands was a nightmare - now its quick and straightforward. Simon N.[/p][/quote]Cornwall is pretty much connected to the rest of the Country through dual carriageways and the M5. We need a proper dual carriageway through Dorset. The Dorchester bypass and Weymouth bypass are relatively modern roads but inadequate to meet modern traffic flows. Check out the road infrastructure in the rest of Europe and you will soon notice how far behind we are in this Country. Take a look at the motorway network in Ireland. We are decades behind the rest.[/p][/quote]Speaking as someone that used to do the journey regularly - it was ok up to Bodmin - beyond that it was an absolute nightmare. And you would never use the A38 via the Tamar Bridge!!! ksmain
  • Score: 3

6:25pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Noidear says...

No wonder poole Bournemouth got the money, all u lot in weymouth do is complain ..
I think possible some body needs to look into this, dorset has a lot of towns that could do with this sort of money.
No wonder poole Bournemouth got the money, all u lot in weymouth do is complain .. I think possible some body needs to look into this, dorset has a lot of towns that could do with this sort of money. Noidear
  • Score: 2

6:51pm Mon 7 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

I posted comments to this effect on the Bournemouth Echo's version of this story.
I do hope that if we do have improved roads to Poole Port as a result, then maybe people will stop saying how much easier it is to get to Portsmouth to catch a ferry, citing Poole as being difficult to get to!! So if it shuts that lot up, then it will do the world of good, and they won't have any excuses.
I posted comments to this effect on the Bournemouth Echo's version of this story. I do hope that if we do have improved roads to Poole Port as a result, then maybe people will stop saying how much easier it is to get to Portsmouth to catch a ferry, citing Poole as being difficult to get to!! So if it shuts that lot up, then it will do the world of good, and they won't have any excuses. FerryFan
  • Score: 8

7:18pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Simon Nicholas says...

FerryFan wrote:
I posted comments to this effect on the Bournemouth Echo's version of this story.
I do hope that if we do have improved roads to Poole Port as a result, then maybe people will stop saying how much easier it is to get to Portsmouth to catch a ferry, citing Poole as being difficult to get to!! So if it shuts that lot up, then it will do the world of good, and they won't have any excuses.
That is all well and good FerryFan, but as you know, the roadlinks are not seen as an issue for Condor. As you know, they have made it clear that, for them financially, Weymouth remains their port of choice.

As long as berth 1 is converted to their requirements, they will settle here,

i conceed however that the council`s options for raising the necessary funds have been dealt a further blow today.

Simon N.
[quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: I posted comments to this effect on the Bournemouth Echo's version of this story. I do hope that if we do have improved roads to Poole Port as a result, then maybe people will stop saying how much easier it is to get to Portsmouth to catch a ferry, citing Poole as being difficult to get to!! So if it shuts that lot up, then it will do the world of good, and they won't have any excuses.[/p][/quote]That is all well and good FerryFan, but as you know, the roadlinks are not seen as an issue for Condor. As you know, they have made it clear that, for them financially, Weymouth remains their port of choice. As long as berth 1 is converted to their requirements, they will settle here, i conceed however that the council`s options for raising the necessary funds have been dealt a further blow today. Simon N. Simon Nicholas
  • Score: 3

7:48pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Top Gear says...

Avoid Bournemouth airport. They now charge £2.50 just to drop off or pick up passengers.
Avoid Bournemouth airport. They now charge £2.50 just to drop off or pick up passengers. Top Gear
  • Score: 4

8:28pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Rocksalt says...

Isosceles wrote:
I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth.
Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast.
As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.
Not sure what point you are making. The Jurassic a project is getting £300k out of a total of £66m given to Dorset. So Weymouth and Portland gets about O.5%.
[quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth. Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast. As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.[/p][/quote]Not sure what point you are making. The Jurassic a project is getting £300k out of a total of £66m given to Dorset. So Weymouth and Portland gets about O.5%. Rocksalt
  • Score: 0

8:28pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Rocksalt says...

Isosceles wrote:
I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth.
Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast.
As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.
Not sure what point you are making. The Jurassic a project is getting £300k out of a total of £66m given to Dorset. So Weymouth and Portland gets about O.5%.
[quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: I somehow thought that it was 'Weymouth and Portland'. If this money goes to a project on Portland how can Weymouth not benefit since the only access to Portland goes through Weymouth. Jurassica, which would cost more than £60 million, aims to celebrate the unique geological heritage of the Jurassic Coast. As well as creating hundreds of jobs it could boost the economy by around £7 million a year.[/p][/quote]Not sure what point you are making. The Jurassic a project is getting £300k out of a total of £66m given to Dorset. So Weymouth and Portland gets about O.5%. Rocksalt
  • Score: -2

8:39pm Mon 7 Jul 14

FerryFan says...

Simon Nicholas wrote:
FerryFan wrote:
I posted comments to this effect on the Bournemouth Echo's version of this story.
I do hope that if we do have improved roads to Poole Port as a result, then maybe people will stop saying how much easier it is to get to Portsmouth to catch a ferry, citing Poole as being difficult to get to!! So if it shuts that lot up, then it will do the world of good, and they won't have any excuses.
That is all well and good FerryFan, but as you know, the roadlinks are not seen as an issue for Condor. As you know, they have made it clear that, for them financially, Weymouth remains their port of choice.

As long as berth 1 is converted to their requirements, they will settle here,

i conceed however that the council`s options for raising the necessary funds have been dealt a further blow today.

Simon N.
Thanks for your comment, Simon, nice to hear from you again!!

They aren't seen as an issue to me, but have read comments on other enthusiasts websites regarding the choice of Portsmouth over Poole, as Portsmouth is easier to get to in many people's opinions. Citing roads, which I disagree with. Condor's passengers are probably a lot more content with the roads around Poole than some of those of BF, shall we say. ( my opinion is that those commenters are probably preferring the larger cruise ferries running from Pompey over Barfleur, if they put large ships like the Pont Aven in Poole or Bretagne, suddenly the roads would not be an issue. (maybe take that not too seriously, it is half meant in jest :)) Barfleur is too small and lack of facilities for some tastes!!

It is most definitely a shame about Weymouth losing out, I think money should have been made available. The roads are not seen as an issue to me at all, and have been involved on many 'discussions' about the situation with roads around Poole, lol. Poole isn't THAT difficult at the end of the day, it is down to the impatience/fussiness of some. The roads aren't an issue for Condor as you said!!

Funny enough, somebody once had to travel from Pompey to Poole for some reason I can't remember, and he complained about the drive. When I complained a couple of years ago about the time taken getting to Pompey from Bournemouth, the same chap treated me with derision, yet he hated the journey himself!! Nowt as queer as folk they say.
[quote][p][bold]Simon Nicholas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FerryFan[/bold] wrote: I posted comments to this effect on the Bournemouth Echo's version of this story. I do hope that if we do have improved roads to Poole Port as a result, then maybe people will stop saying how much easier it is to get to Portsmouth to catch a ferry, citing Poole as being difficult to get to!! So if it shuts that lot up, then it will do the world of good, and they won't have any excuses.[/p][/quote]That is all well and good FerryFan, but as you know, the roadlinks are not seen as an issue for Condor. As you know, they have made it clear that, for them financially, Weymouth remains their port of choice. As long as berth 1 is converted to their requirements, they will settle here, i conceed however that the council`s options for raising the necessary funds have been dealt a further blow today. Simon N.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your comment, Simon, nice to hear from you again!! They aren't seen as an issue to me, but have read comments on other enthusiasts websites regarding the choice of Portsmouth over Poole, as Portsmouth is easier to get to in many people's opinions. Citing roads, which I disagree with. Condor's passengers are probably a lot more content with the roads around Poole than some of those of BF, shall we say. ( my opinion is that those commenters are probably preferring the larger cruise ferries running from Pompey over Barfleur, if they put large ships like the Pont Aven in Poole or Bretagne, suddenly the roads would not be an issue. (maybe take that not too seriously, it is half meant in jest :)) Barfleur is too small and lack of facilities for some tastes!! It is most definitely a shame about Weymouth losing out, I think money should have been made available. The roads are not seen as an issue to me at all, and have been involved on many 'discussions' about the situation with roads around Poole, lol. Poole isn't THAT difficult at the end of the day, it is down to the impatience/fussiness of some. The roads aren't an issue for Condor as you said!! Funny enough, somebody once had to travel from Pompey to Poole for some reason I can't remember, and he complained about the drive. When I complained a couple of years ago about the time taken getting to Pompey from Bournemouth, the same chap treated me with derision, yet he hated the journey himself!! Nowt as queer as folk they say. FerryFan
  • Score: 2

8:04am Tue 8 Jul 14

arlbergbahn says...

melcombe boy wrote:
Simon 1965 wrote:
Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike.

Simon N.
We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be.
Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on.
All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways.
Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset.
It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!!
Until very recently, Torquay was just like Weymouth was before the relief road was built. You'd cruise happily down the M5/A38/A380 as far as Newton Abbot, and then you'd crawl along a congested single carriageway right the way into town. Coming the other way it was just as bad. And if you want to compare with other resorts, try Brighton; once you get into town off the A23, that's just as bad. Really I know it's very difficult to appreciate, but Weymouth is not really very much worse off than anywhere else really.
[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon 1965[/bold] wrote: Unless I am very much mistaken, Weymouth HAS recently benefitted from a muiti million pound capital road investment, in the form of the Dorchester Road by pass, which is much appreciated, and has made a very big difference to locals and tourists alike. Simon N.[/p][/quote]We should tip our hats and be grateful for the cheapest and most inadequate bypass that could be constructed and given to us by the powers that be. Weymouth has to compete with similar resorts like Weston- super-mare, Torquay, Bognor Regis, Penzance, Newquay and I could go on and on. All of these resorts are blessed with far superior road infrastructure like Motorways and dual carriageways. Whenever I travel far and wide in my car the most stressful part of the journey is getting in and out of Dorset. It is time as a County we demanded proper road infrastructure!![/p][/quote]Until very recently, Torquay was just like Weymouth was before the relief road was built. You'd cruise happily down the M5/A38/A380 as far as Newton Abbot, and then you'd crawl along a congested single carriageway right the way into town. Coming the other way it was just as bad. And if you want to compare with other resorts, try Brighton; once you get into town off the A23, that's just as bad. Really I know it's very difficult to appreciate, but Weymouth is not really very much worse off than anywhere else really. arlbergbahn
  • Score: 4

10:41pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Portlandjerry says...

It beggars belief that we have one of the largest man-made harbours in the world usually empty,could it be because to get a 40 Tonne container truck the unfortunate driver has to negotiate Boot Hill or Lanehouse Rocks & the ridiculously tight mini roundabout at Wyke church.
Perhaps our local MPs &County Councillors could explain their lack of enthusiasm in promoting this Major Asset and the road from Chickerell Link Estate to Portland (Level and Bypassing the people of Wyke!!)
It beggars belief that we have one of the largest man-made harbours in the world usually empty,could it be because to get a 40 Tonne container truck the unfortunate driver has to negotiate Boot Hill or Lanehouse Rocks & the ridiculously tight mini roundabout at Wyke church. Perhaps our local MPs &County Councillors could explain their lack of enthusiasm in promoting this Major Asset and the road from Chickerell Link Estate to Portland (Level and Bypassing the people of Wyke!!) Portlandjerry
  • Score: 0

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