MP Richard Drax slammed for views on women ministers

MP Richard Drax slammed for views on women ministers

Richard Drax's post on his website

First published in News by

DORSET MP Richard Drax has come under fire after he suggested the recent promotion of women to the Conservative cabinet was ‘because they are women and a quota needs to be filled’.

In a post on his website last Friday, the South Dorset MP said newly-promoted female ministers were ‘out of their depth’ and had been promoted out of ‘tokenism’, dubbing the reshuffle the ‘the night of the petticoats’.

The term was a reference to Harold Macmillan’s night of the long knives, when the then-Prime Minister sacked seven of his ministers, reportedly as a way of boosting support amongst voters.

In the website post, Mr Drax said: "Tokenism has burst upon us like a thunderstorm. I have no problem with women getting top jobs. But they, like their male counterparts, must get there on merit and not just because they are women and a quota needs to be filled by 2015.

"Experience counts, too. The learning curve is steep and my intake is still learning the ropes. An MP's life is busy enough, but a minister's even more so.

"Perhaps it would be wiser to tackle the shallow end first, before venturing out of your depth."

Nine women from the 2010 intake of MPs were promoted during the reshuffle last week, including the employment minister Esther McVey, the environment secretary Liz Truss and Nicky Morgan, education secretary.

Weymouth and Portland Borough Council’s spokesman for Social Inclusion, Francis Drake, said: “It’s a load of rubbish, he’s talking out of his hat.”

“I believe in a level playing field as men and women are equal. I don’t see how he could say what he has. You wouldn’t get offered that position by the government if you didn’t have the experience.”

The Liberal Democrat parliamentary candidate for West Dorset, Ros Kayes, said: “Richard’s attitude to women is very well known and rather outdated. I would have hoped he at least studied the professional backgrounds of these women before he commented on their capability.”

An article in the Telegraph also slammed the MP, quoting ‘a newly promoted female minister who said that Mr Drax's comments sounded like "sour grapes". "At the end of the day people have to accept the reshuffle," she said.

South Dorset Labour Parliamentary candidate, Simon Bowkett said: “To question an MP on their ability or inexperience is one thing, but Mr Drax has reserved all his criticism only for his female colleagues.

“Richard Drax’s controversial comments – like those he made last year about the No More Page 3 campaign – have again been the subject of national press coverage. Many of us are trying hard to present and promote Dorset as a modern, inclusive place to live and do business, and we could do without an MP whose comments regularly bring embarrassment, and frankly belong to another era.”

South Dorset Green parliamentary candidate Jane Burnet said: “Is Mr Drax suggesting that his leader has chosen unwisely? Either he is displaying what appear to be sexist views, or is concerned about the ability of the new government, which is worrying to voters."

She added: "Given Mr Drax appears not to have made any comment about the culture secretary Sajid Javid, who has been promoted equally as quickly and became an MP at the same time as these women, we might conclude that our elected MP has a less than acceptable view about women.”

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6:21pm Mon 21 Jul 14

westbaywonder says...

He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ! westbaywonder
  • Score: -23

7:05pm Mon 21 Jul 14

marabout says...

He has just lost my vote. Sexist pig
He has just lost my vote. Sexist pig marabout
  • Score: 11

7:40pm Mon 21 Jul 14

cj07589 says...

westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society.
Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt!
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society. Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt! cj07589
  • Score: 21

7:47pm Mon 21 Jul 14

oldbrock says...

westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
and what about all the closet gays? what a sexist arzul, I bet women can hear your knuckles dragging on the ground as you come up behind them with your club! the only part you are 100% right with is that this and other recent actions of the government and prime minister have been done with votes in mind but the woman thing, I tell you something pal, my latest dentist is a lady and she helped me, a dental phobic, far more in ONE visit than the other, private, money grabber did all the 30 odd years I was with him
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]and what about all the closet gays? what a sexist arzul, I bet women can hear your knuckles dragging on the ground as you come up behind them with your club! the only part you are 100% right with is that this and other recent actions of the government and prime minister have been done with votes in mind but the woman thing, I tell you something pal, my latest dentist is a lady and she helped me, a dental phobic, far more in ONE visit than the other, private, money grabber did all the 30 odd years I was with him oldbrock
  • Score: 13

7:48pm Mon 21 Jul 14

southwellman says...

cj07589 wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society.
Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt!
Read the bible!
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society. Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt![/p][/quote]Read the bible! southwellman
  • Score: -27

7:53pm Mon 21 Jul 14

cj07589 says...

southwellman wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society.
Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt!
Read the bible!
Sorry but I decline as my mind is free from the bigoted narrow thinking shackles of religion thank you very much.
[quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society. Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt![/p][/quote]Read the bible![/p][/quote]Sorry but I decline as my mind is free from the bigoted narrow thinking shackles of religion thank you very much. cj07589
  • Score: 27

9:00pm Mon 21 Jul 14

ronfogg says...

Compare Godfrey Bloom and Richard Drax. Why doesn't Drax join UKIP. That's where he should be.
Compare Godfrey Bloom and Richard Drax. Why doesn't Drax join UKIP. That's where he should be. ronfogg
  • Score: 13

10:03pm Mon 21 Jul 14

redsharkruss says...

Suggest Drax starts making some wine on his estate with all the sour grapes he has.
Suggest Drax starts making some wine on his estate with all the sour grapes he has. redsharkruss
  • Score: 12

10:11pm Mon 21 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

southwellman wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society.
Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt!
Read the bible!
Awfully sorry but I much prefer fact to fiction. However I understand that the bible is so ludicrously inaccurate that it might be worth a read, giving a laugh a minute.
[quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society. Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt![/p][/quote]Read the bible![/p][/quote]Awfully sorry but I much prefer fact to fiction. However I understand that the bible is so ludicrously inaccurate that it might be worth a read, giving a laugh a minute. breamoreboy
  • Score: 15

10:13pm Mon 21 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

ronfogg wrote:
Compare Godfrey Bloom and Richard Drax. Why doesn't Drax join UKIP. That's where he should be.
Even UKIP wouldn't have him?
[quote][p][bold]ronfogg[/bold] wrote: Compare Godfrey Bloom and Richard Drax. Why doesn't Drax join UKIP. That's where he should be.[/p][/quote]Even UKIP wouldn't have him? breamoreboy
  • Score: 5

10:15pm Mon 21 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
We're now in the 21st century, not the 19th.
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]We're now in the 21st century, not the 19th. breamoreboy
  • Score: 8

12:10am Tue 22 Jul 14

Kimberlin1 says...

21st Century Richard, but then again you did say that that a it was a good career path for women to get their t*** out and be a page 3 girl in the despicable Sun. Just wonder would you like any girls in your family to do that? However I do believe that no matter what sex you are you should only get a job on merit and not sex so does that mean I agree with you,and in this case it was perhaps I do. Panic motion by David Cameron but what is worse how many Women have high powered jobs in Nick Cleggs Libdems?Hardly any that's for sure.
21st Century Richard, but then again you did say that that a it was a good career path for women to get their t*** out and be a page 3 girl in the despicable Sun. Just wonder would you like any girls in your family to do that? However I do believe that no matter what sex you are you should only get a job on merit and not sex so does that mean I agree with you,and in this case it was perhaps I do. Panic motion by David Cameron but what is worse how many Women have high powered jobs in Nick Cleggs Libdems?Hardly any that's for sure. Kimberlin1
  • Score: 2

12:19am Tue 22 Jul 14

westbaywonder says...

oldbrock wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
and what about all the closet gays? what a sexist arzul, I bet women can hear your knuckles dragging on the ground as you come up behind them with your club! the only part you are 100% right with is that this and other recent actions of the government and prime minister have been done with votes in mind but the woman thing, I tell you something pal, my latest dentist is a lady and she helped me, a dental phobic, far more in ONE visit than the other, private, money grabber did all the 30 odd years I was with him
"I tell you something pal" ?
Your no pal of mine oldbrock, merely another citizen!
[quote][p][bold]oldbrock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]and what about all the closet gays? what a sexist arzul, I bet women can hear your knuckles dragging on the ground as you come up behind them with your club! the only part you are 100% right with is that this and other recent actions of the government and prime minister have been done with votes in mind but the woman thing, I tell you something pal, my latest dentist is a lady and she helped me, a dental phobic, far more in ONE visit than the other, private, money grabber did all the 30 odd years I was with him[/p][/quote]"I tell you something pal" ? Your no pal of mine oldbrock, merely another citizen! westbaywonder
  • Score: -7

12:30am Tue 22 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

westbaywonder wrote:
oldbrock wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
and what about all the closet gays? what a sexist arzul, I bet women can hear your knuckles dragging on the ground as you come up behind them with your club! the only part you are 100% right with is that this and other recent actions of the government and prime minister have been done with votes in mind but the woman thing, I tell you something pal, my latest dentist is a lady and she helped me, a dental phobic, far more in ONE visit than the other, private, money grabber did all the 30 odd years I was with him
"I tell you something pal" ?
Your no pal of mine oldbrock, merely another citizen!
Ah, the joys of our wonderful education system. "Your no pal...", how many more times do I have to read stuff like this? Roll on the immigrants as there's a good chance that their English is better than that of some of our own.
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldbrock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]and what about all the closet gays? what a sexist arzul, I bet women can hear your knuckles dragging on the ground as you come up behind them with your club! the only part you are 100% right with is that this and other recent actions of the government and prime minister have been done with votes in mind but the woman thing, I tell you something pal, my latest dentist is a lady and she helped me, a dental phobic, far more in ONE visit than the other, private, money grabber did all the 30 odd years I was with him[/p][/quote]"I tell you something pal" ? Your no pal of mine oldbrock, merely another citizen![/p][/quote]Ah, the joys of our wonderful education system. "Your no pal...", how many more times do I have to read stuff like this? Roll on the immigrants as there's a good chance that their English is better than that of some of our own. breamoreboy
  • Score: 6

12:31am Tue 22 Jul 14

westbaywonder says...

cj07589 wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society.
Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt!
"What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are"
"Rude and backward opinion"
Nothing rude about it,,it is my opinion to which i am entitled.
I dont come on here to please you or any one else with my comments, i say what i think and i have a right to do such in this so-called free country.
Get off your high horse citizen,your disliking of my comments do not make them either rude or backward,that is your opinion. LOL!
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are! There are even more lunatic morally corrupt selfish men out there holding public responsibilities and positions they are not fit to serve. I especially enjoyed the reticence of decades past which is as relevant in today's modern Britain as your outdated quite frankly rude & backward opinion of woman's contribution to society. Some of the best balanced directors and professionals I have had the privilege of working with at FTSE 100 level have been woman. I am relieved that archaic values such as yours are now firmly in the minority and yes by the way I'm a bloke too.......shock & horror to you no doubt![/p][/quote]"What a thoroughly enlightening progressive person you are" "Rude and backward opinion" Nothing rude about it,,it is my opinion to which i am entitled. I dont come on here to please you or any one else with my comments, i say what i think and i have a right to do such in this so-called free country. Get off your high horse citizen,your disliking of my comments do not make them either rude or backward,that is your opinion. LOL! westbaywonder
  • Score: -10

12:50am Tue 22 Jul 14

westbaywonder says...

breamoreboy wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
oldbrock wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
He has a point.
Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes.
None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy"
There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life.
Daytime=kitchen
Nighttime= Bedroom.
Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men !
and what about all the closet gays? what a sexist arzul, I bet women can hear your knuckles dragging on the ground as you come up behind them with your club! the only part you are 100% right with is that this and other recent actions of the government and prime minister have been done with votes in mind but the woman thing, I tell you something pal, my latest dentist is a lady and she helped me, a dental phobic, far more in ONE visit than the other, private, money grabber did all the 30 odd years I was with him
"I tell you something pal" ?
Your no pal of mine oldbrock, merely another citizen!
Ah, the joys of our wonderful education system. "Your no pal...", how many more times do I have to read stuff like this? Roll on the immigrants as there's a good chance that their English is better than that of some of our own.
"Your no pal" originally posted on here by OLDBROCK for the record,
Breamoreboy, You are welcome to ask OLDBROCK about his/her education as i am not interested, the original remark of "i tell you something pal "
LOL! Not the sort of person i would employ at my business,that remark says it all.
As you were citizens, carry on.
[quote][p][bold]breamoreboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldbrock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: He has a point. Only done to look all modern and pc and hopefully attract votes. None of them have a clue about real life, men or woman including the head silver spooned fool himself that is the "£90 haircut boy" There are a lot of woman these days that are out of control and too big for their boots,they should know their place in life. Daytime=kitchen Nighttime= Bedroom. Bring back the 50,s 60,s 70,s when woman were woman and men were men ![/p][/quote]and what about all the closet gays? what a sexist arzul, I bet women can hear your knuckles dragging on the ground as you come up behind them with your club! the only part you are 100% right with is that this and other recent actions of the government and prime minister have been done with votes in mind but the woman thing, I tell you something pal, my latest dentist is a lady and she helped me, a dental phobic, far more in ONE visit than the other, private, money grabber did all the 30 odd years I was with him[/p][/quote]"I tell you something pal" ? Your no pal of mine oldbrock, merely another citizen![/p][/quote]Ah, the joys of our wonderful education system. "Your no pal...", how many more times do I have to read stuff like this? Roll on the immigrants as there's a good chance that their English is better than that of some of our own.[/p][/quote]"Your no pal" originally posted on here by OLDBROCK for the record, Breamoreboy, You are welcome to ask OLDBROCK about his/her education as i am not interested, the original remark of "i tell you something pal " LOL! Not the sort of person i would employ at my business,that remark says it all. As you were citizens, carry on. westbaywonder
  • Score: -3

5:29am Tue 22 Jul 14

southwellman says...

What a fickle bunch you lot really are.. On one hand you live in a country that fights for the freedom of beliefs of every person then scorn at every shout whenever a terrorist action is taken blaming every person who believes in Islam. Many of you wave your flag when the Queen passes yet do not understand the fact she is the head of the church of England.. a church that has undergone many changes. It states in the bible that man shall not lay with man but gay marriage has been allowed in a church, so by that it means nothing in the bible can be followed because if we do not give a hoot about what has been written then why bother having a church of England a monarchy or even a country as you are all non-believers.. So why not let the Islamism in to take over the thrown as you lot obviously do not care.. I dare say you arm chair warriors will spend time coming up with an answer and I dare say one of you might score a few arrows up.. But unlike many of you I have seen the world in its good bits and worst bits and one who has experienced the world has a comment..
What a fickle bunch you lot really are.. On one hand you live in a country that fights for the freedom of beliefs of every person then scorn at every shout whenever a terrorist action is taken blaming every person who believes in Islam. Many of you wave your flag when the Queen passes yet do not understand the fact she is the head of the church of England.. a church that has undergone many changes. It states in the bible that man shall not lay with man but gay marriage has been allowed in a church, so by that it means nothing in the bible can be followed because if we do not give a hoot about what has been written then why bother having a church of England a monarchy or even a country as you are all non-believers.. So why not let the Islamism in to take over the thrown as you lot obviously do not care.. I dare say you arm chair warriors will spend time coming up with an answer and I dare say one of you might score a few arrows up.. But unlike many of you I have seen the world in its good bits and worst bits and one who has experienced the world has a comment.. southwellman
  • Score: -10

6:22am Tue 22 Jul 14

cj07589 says...

southwellman wrote:
What a fickle bunch you lot really are.. On one hand you live in a country that fights for the freedom of beliefs of every person then scorn at every shout whenever a terrorist action is taken blaming every person who believes in Islam. Many of you wave your flag when the Queen passes yet do not understand the fact she is the head of the church of England.. a church that has undergone many changes. It states in the bible that man shall not lay with man but gay marriage has been allowed in a church, so by that it means nothing in the bible can be followed because if we do not give a hoot about what has been written then why bother having a church of England a monarchy or even a country as you are all non-believers.. So why not let the Islamism in to take over the thrown as you lot obviously do not care.. I dare say you arm chair warriors will spend time coming up with an answer and I dare say one of you might score a few arrows up.. But unlike many of you I have seen the world in its good bits and worst bits and one who has experienced the world has a comment..
Get real chum, religion is the root of all the worlds problems you only need to know a bit of history to appreciate that or even still Gaza is a shining example.
If your gullible enough to be sucked in then fine but please don't preach to the rest of us who have a lot more common sense and purpose than to believe a whole of fictional ramblings of the great self appointees.
[quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: What a fickle bunch you lot really are.. On one hand you live in a country that fights for the freedom of beliefs of every person then scorn at every shout whenever a terrorist action is taken blaming every person who believes in Islam. Many of you wave your flag when the Queen passes yet do not understand the fact she is the head of the church of England.. a church that has undergone many changes. It states in the bible that man shall not lay with man but gay marriage has been allowed in a church, so by that it means nothing in the bible can be followed because if we do not give a hoot about what has been written then why bother having a church of England a monarchy or even a country as you are all non-believers.. So why not let the Islamism in to take over the thrown as you lot obviously do not care.. I dare say you arm chair warriors will spend time coming up with an answer and I dare say one of you might score a few arrows up.. But unlike many of you I have seen the world in its good bits and worst bits and one who has experienced the world has a comment..[/p][/quote]Get real chum, religion is the root of all the worlds problems you only need to know a bit of history to appreciate that or even still Gaza is a shining example. If your gullible enough to be sucked in then fine but please don't preach to the rest of us who have a lot more common sense and purpose than to believe a whole of fictional ramblings of the great self appointees. cj07589
  • Score: 14

7:41am Tue 22 Jul 14

Rocksalt says...

Well, that's a first as I find myself agreeing with Mr Drake. Drax has made himself look extremely foolish, particularly when saying people need experience before moving to role where they may be out of their depth. It must have escaped his notice that McVey,Truss,Morgan etc have just spent 2 years in ministerial roles.
Well, that's a first as I find myself agreeing with Mr Drake. Drax has made himself look extremely foolish, particularly when saying people need experience before moving to role where they may be out of their depth. It must have escaped his notice that McVey,Truss,Morgan etc have just spent 2 years in ministerial roles. Rocksalt
  • Score: 6

11:20am Tue 22 Jul 14

Goldman says...

Typical media twisting words. What he is really saying is that gender does not matter but the job should go to the best applicant. Really hacks me off when quotas of gender race or sexuality have to be filled. By doing this we are missing out on real talent.
Typical media twisting words. What he is really saying is that gender does not matter but the job should go to the best applicant. Really hacks me off when quotas of gender race or sexuality have to be filled. By doing this we are missing out on real talent. Goldman
  • Score: 1

12:34pm Tue 22 Jul 14

ronfogg says...

Goldman wrote:
Typical media twisting words. What he is really saying is that gender does not matter but the job should go to the best applicant. Really hacks me off when quotas of gender race or sexuality have to be filled. By doing this we are missing out on real talent.
Was Mr Drax really the best candidate when he got the Conservative party ticket for South Dorset? Clearly the few O levels (or whatever) he got at great expense at Harrow were outstanding. Those great successes in the army and as a journalist clearly gave him an edge too - ah yes, don't we all remember his reports? The fact that he's a local landing-owing multi-millionaire toff counted for nothing, I'm sure. Yes, clearly the outstanding man for the job.
[quote][p][bold]Goldman[/bold] wrote: Typical media twisting words. What he is really saying is that gender does not matter but the job should go to the best applicant. Really hacks me off when quotas of gender race or sexuality have to be filled. By doing this we are missing out on real talent.[/p][/quote]Was Mr Drax really the best candidate when he got the Conservative party ticket for South Dorset? Clearly the few O levels (or whatever) he got at great expense at Harrow were outstanding. Those great successes in the army and as a journalist clearly gave him an edge too - ah yes, don't we all remember his reports? The fact that he's a local landing-owing multi-millionaire toff counted for nothing, I'm sure. Yes, clearly the outstanding man for the job. ronfogg
  • Score: 8

2:52pm Tue 22 Jul 14

southwellman says...

cj07589 wrote:
southwellman wrote:
What a fickle bunch you lot really are.. On one hand you live in a country that fights for the freedom of beliefs of every person then scorn at every shout whenever a terrorist action is taken blaming every person who believes in Islam. Many of you wave your flag when the Queen passes yet do not understand the fact she is the head of the church of England.. a church that has undergone many changes. It states in the bible that man shall not lay with man but gay marriage has been allowed in a church, so by that it means nothing in the bible can be followed because if we do not give a hoot about what has been written then why bother having a church of England a monarchy or even a country as you are all non-believers.. So why not let the Islamism in to take over the thrown as you lot obviously do not care.. I dare say you arm chair warriors will spend time coming up with an answer and I dare say one of you might score a few arrows up.. But unlike many of you I have seen the world in its good bits and worst bits and one who has experienced the world has a comment..
Get real chum, religion is the root of all the worlds problems you only need to know a bit of history to appreciate that or even still Gaza is a shining example.
If your gullible enough to be sucked in then fine but please don't preach to the rest of us who have a lot more common sense and purpose than to believe a whole of fictional ramblings of the great self appointees.
See the arm chair warrior.. Now go out and get a job you moron!
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: What a fickle bunch you lot really are.. On one hand you live in a country that fights for the freedom of beliefs of every person then scorn at every shout whenever a terrorist action is taken blaming every person who believes in Islam. Many of you wave your flag when the Queen passes yet do not understand the fact she is the head of the church of England.. a church that has undergone many changes. It states in the bible that man shall not lay with man but gay marriage has been allowed in a church, so by that it means nothing in the bible can be followed because if we do not give a hoot about what has been written then why bother having a church of England a monarchy or even a country as you are all non-believers.. So why not let the Islamism in to take over the thrown as you lot obviously do not care.. I dare say you arm chair warriors will spend time coming up with an answer and I dare say one of you might score a few arrows up.. But unlike many of you I have seen the world in its good bits and worst bits and one who has experienced the world has a comment..[/p][/quote]Get real chum, religion is the root of all the worlds problems you only need to know a bit of history to appreciate that or even still Gaza is a shining example. If your gullible enough to be sucked in then fine but please don't preach to the rest of us who have a lot more common sense and purpose than to believe a whole of fictional ramblings of the great self appointees.[/p][/quote]See the arm chair warrior.. Now go out and get a job you moron! southwellman
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Tue 22 Jul 14

cj07589 says...

southwellman wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
southwellman wrote:
What a fickle bunch you lot really are.. On one hand you live in a country that fights for the freedom of beliefs of every person then scorn at every shout whenever a terrorist action is taken blaming every person who believes in Islam. Many of you wave your flag when the Queen passes yet do not understand the fact she is the head of the church of England.. a church that has undergone many changes. It states in the bible that man shall not lay with man but gay marriage has been allowed in a church, so by that it means nothing in the bible can be followed because if we do not give a hoot about what has been written then why bother having a church of England a monarchy or even a country as you are all non-believers.. So why not let the Islamism in to take over the thrown as you lot obviously do not care.. I dare say you arm chair warriors will spend time coming up with an answer and I dare say one of you might score a few arrows up.. But unlike many of you I have seen the world in its good bits and worst bits and one who has experienced the world has a comment..
Get real chum, religion is the root of all the worlds problems you only need to know a bit of history to appreciate that or even still Gaza is a shining example.
If your gullible enough to be sucked in then fine but please don't preach to the rest of us who have a lot more common sense and purpose than to believe a whole of fictional ramblings of the great self appointees.
See the arm chair warrior.. Now go out and get a job you moron!
Thanks for your tenuous concern over my employement status, you'd be very pleased to know that I work for one of the very best and most respected businesses in the country!
Furthermore I trust in the midst of your avid preoccupation of ancient fiction literature your typo meant to say Mormon, unless of course your one of those bigotted religious nut jobs who preaches the 'do what I say but not what do' sermon. I thought the religious types were meant to be kind caring and compassionate clearly you didn't get that memo did you.
Care to retort o ye knowledgeable o mighty one?
[quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: What a fickle bunch you lot really are.. On one hand you live in a country that fights for the freedom of beliefs of every person then scorn at every shout whenever a terrorist action is taken blaming every person who believes in Islam. Many of you wave your flag when the Queen passes yet do not understand the fact she is the head of the church of England.. a church that has undergone many changes. It states in the bible that man shall not lay with man but gay marriage has been allowed in a church, so by that it means nothing in the bible can be followed because if we do not give a hoot about what has been written then why bother having a church of England a monarchy or even a country as you are all non-believers.. So why not let the Islamism in to take over the thrown as you lot obviously do not care.. I dare say you arm chair warriors will spend time coming up with an answer and I dare say one of you might score a few arrows up.. But unlike many of you I have seen the world in its good bits and worst bits and one who has experienced the world has a comment..[/p][/quote]Get real chum, religion is the root of all the worlds problems you only need to know a bit of history to appreciate that or even still Gaza is a shining example. If your gullible enough to be sucked in then fine but please don't preach to the rest of us who have a lot more common sense and purpose than to believe a whole of fictional ramblings of the great self appointees.[/p][/quote]See the arm chair warrior.. Now go out and get a job you moron![/p][/quote]Thanks for your tenuous concern over my employement status, you'd be very pleased to know that I work for one of the very best and most respected businesses in the country! Furthermore I trust in the midst of your avid preoccupation of ancient fiction literature your typo meant to say Mormon, unless of course your one of those bigotted religious nut jobs who preaches the 'do what I say but not what do' sermon. I thought the religious types were meant to be kind caring and compassionate clearly you didn't get that memo did you. Care to retort o ye knowledgeable o mighty one? cj07589
  • Score: 2

4:00pm Tue 22 Jul 14

southwellman says...

The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right.
The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed.
Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings?
The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right. The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed. Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings? southwellman
  • Score: -2

4:17pm Tue 22 Jul 14

ronfogg says...

It's always been a mystery to me why letters from Paul are regarded as the word of God. Surely what counts for a Christian is what Christ said. Paul was a Jew (as was Jesus, of course) and his views were often those of conventional Jewish society. I don't see the relevance of his views to a modern secular society.
It's always been a mystery to me why letters from Paul are regarded as the word of God. Surely what counts for a Christian is what Christ said. Paul was a Jew (as was Jesus, of course) and his views were often those of conventional Jewish society. I don't see the relevance of his views to a modern secular society. ronfogg
  • Score: 6

5:49pm Tue 22 Jul 14

cj07589 says...

southwellman wrote:
The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right.
The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed.
Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings?
Lots of assumptions......who said I answer to shareholders? If you'd preferred to offer dogma and hide behind 'the' book, please be my guest your not the first nor will be the last.
The bible rantings albeit humorous and bizarrely out of context to anything suggest it may be time to take your meds........good bye.
[quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right. The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed. Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings?[/p][/quote]Lots of assumptions......who said I answer to shareholders? If you'd preferred to offer dogma and hide behind 'the' book, please be my guest your not the first nor will be the last. The bible rantings albeit humorous and bizarrely out of context to anything suggest it may be time to take your meds........good bye. cj07589
  • Score: 3

8:40pm Tue 22 Jul 14

TenBobDylanThomasHardy says...

So, by my arithmetic Westbaywonder must be in his late 70's, so perhaps we should make allowance for his out-dated views.
So, by my arithmetic Westbaywonder must be in his late 70's, so perhaps we should make allowance for his out-dated views. [i.e. he was old enough to understand the position Women held in society in the 1950's, or maybe he's not so old and is talking about stuff he knows nothing about] TenBobDylanThomasHardy
  • Score: -1

8:32am Wed 23 Jul 14

southwellman says...

cj07589 wrote:
southwellman wrote:
The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right.
The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed.
Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings?
Lots of assumptions......who said I answer to shareholders? If you'd preferred to offer dogma and hide behind 'the' book, please be my guest your not the first nor will be the last.
The bible rantings albeit humorous and bizarrely out of context to anything suggest it may be time to take your meds........good bye.
So anything you ever write on here can be seen as irrelivent.. as you clearly cannot see past your own opinions.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right. The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed. Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings?[/p][/quote]Lots of assumptions......who said I answer to shareholders? If you'd preferred to offer dogma and hide behind 'the' book, please be my guest your not the first nor will be the last. The bible rantings albeit humorous and bizarrely out of context to anything suggest it may be time to take your meds........good bye.[/p][/quote]So anything you ever write on here can be seen as irrelivent.. as you clearly cannot see past your own opinions. southwellman
  • Score: -1

9:01am Wed 23 Jul 14

cj07589 says...

southwellman wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
southwellman wrote:
The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right.
The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed.
Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings?
Lots of assumptions......who said I answer to shareholders? If you'd preferred to offer dogma and hide behind 'the' book, please be my guest your not the first nor will be the last.
The bible rantings albeit humorous and bizarrely out of context to anything suggest it may be time to take your meds........good bye.
So anything you ever write on here can be seen as irrelivent.. as you clearly cannot see past your own opinions.
When you've got over yourself please Invest in a dictionary and look up the meaning of 'opinion' which is exactly what my contribution is. Last time I checked it was still a SECULAR country with freedom of speech.
[quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right. The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed. Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings?[/p][/quote]Lots of assumptions......who said I answer to shareholders? If you'd preferred to offer dogma and hide behind 'the' book, please be my guest your not the first nor will be the last. The bible rantings albeit humorous and bizarrely out of context to anything suggest it may be time to take your meds........good bye.[/p][/quote]So anything you ever write on here can be seen as irrelivent.. as you clearly cannot see past your own opinions.[/p][/quote]When you've got over yourself please Invest in a dictionary and look up the meaning of 'opinion' which is exactly what my contribution is. Last time I checked it was still a SECULAR country with freedom of speech. cj07589
  • Score: 1

12:15pm Wed 23 Jul 14

livid99 says...

Kimberlin1 wrote:
21st Century Richard, but then again you did say that that a it was a good career path for women to get their t*** out and be a page 3 girl in the despicable Sun. Just wonder would you like any girls in your family to do that? However I do believe that no matter what sex you are you should only get a job on merit and not sex so does that mean I agree with you,and in this case it was perhaps I do. Panic motion by David Cameron but what is worse how many Women have high powered jobs in Nick Cleggs Libdems?Hardly any that's for sure.
"but what is worse how many Women have high powered jobs in Nick Cleggs Libdems?Hardly any that's for sure"

Yes, but they are the comedy party, so it doesn't matter.
[quote][p][bold]Kimberlin1[/bold] wrote: 21st Century Richard, but then again you did say that that a it was a good career path for women to get their t*** out and be a page 3 girl in the despicable Sun. Just wonder would you like any girls in your family to do that? However I do believe that no matter what sex you are you should only get a job on merit and not sex so does that mean I agree with you,and in this case it was perhaps I do. Panic motion by David Cameron but what is worse how many Women have high powered jobs in Nick Cleggs Libdems?Hardly any that's for sure.[/p][/quote]"but what is worse how many Women have high powered jobs in Nick Cleggs Libdems?Hardly any that's for sure" Yes, but they are the comedy party, so it doesn't matter. livid99
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3:36pm Thu 24 Jul 14

redsharkruss says...

cj07589 wrote:
southwellman wrote:
cj07589 wrote:
southwellman wrote:
The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right.
The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed.
Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings?
Lots of assumptions......who said I answer to shareholders? If you'd preferred to offer dogma and hide behind 'the' book, please be my guest your not the first nor will be the last.
The bible rantings albeit humorous and bizarrely out of context to anything suggest it may be time to take your meds........good bye.
So anything you ever write on here can be seen as irrelivent.. as you clearly cannot see past your own opinions.
When you've got over yourself please Invest in a dictionary and look up the meaning of 'opinion' which is exactly what my contribution is. Last time I checked it was still a SECULAR country with freedom of speech.
Really sorry but unfortunately we are not a secular state. That's why we have a load of bishops in the House of Lords and the church has it's paws in our education system.
[quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cj07589[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southwellman[/bold] wrote: The fact that you think as you sit in your arm chair spouting your rubbish to the world and then state that religion is the root of all evil either shows your are nothing but a bigot or you are so self-possessed that you really have no idea what is really going on in this world. I suspect the latter. As many serving and ex serving service personnel and coming from a sailing back round many of us rely on the thought that someone is up there looking after us in times of need.. Yet you seem to think that it is OK to belittle anyone who does not think your opinion is right. The world is run on greed and comes in many guises so I suspect the well respected company you are allegedly employed by, and I cannot think of a well respected company in this day spends all its time making a profit to pay the share holders and make yet more money which is itself a form of greed. Now the point that so obviously overlooked by your apparent higher intellect was as it is written “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” 1 Cor 11:3. So what is the point of having a church of England if we do not follow the teachings?[/p][/quote]Lots of assumptions......who said I answer to shareholders? If you'd preferred to offer dogma and hide behind 'the' book, please be my guest your not the first nor will be the last. The bible rantings albeit humorous and bizarrely out of context to anything suggest it may be time to take your meds........good bye.[/p][/quote]So anything you ever write on here can be seen as irrelivent.. as you clearly cannot see past your own opinions.[/p][/quote]When you've got over yourself please Invest in a dictionary and look up the meaning of 'opinion' which is exactly what my contribution is. Last time I checked it was still a SECULAR country with freedom of speech.[/p][/quote]Really sorry but unfortunately we are not a secular state. That's why we have a load of bishops in the House of Lords and the church has it's paws in our education system. redsharkruss
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4:33pm Thu 24 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

All these remarks should be used in comedy Personally Drax has made a big boob again therefore he should be made to step down...... He is obviously anti woman so should not have a job of position in my eyes....... Can't see why anyone would want his pompous butt in a position of trust as he has very backward views..... As pointed out he comes from money.... so let him keep himself instead of being paid for his backward comments by being an MP by the state.... so glad I never voted for the arrogant twit.
All these remarks should be used in comedy Personally Drax has made a big boob again therefore he should be made to step down...... He is obviously anti woman so should not have a job of position in my eyes....... Can't see why anyone would want his pompous butt in a position of trust as he has very backward views..... As pointed out he comes from money.... so let him keep himself instead of being paid for his backward comments by being an MP by the state.... so glad I never voted for the arrogant twit. whatever66
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2:46pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Mrs Grumps says...

He does come from money but he has done other jobs, unlike so many in parliament at the moment. He also works for his constituents and seems to have no desire for power for its own sake. I think these comments were unwise and they do sound old fashioned but he is right that people should get jobs on merit and not because of gender, race or culture. There is nothing nasty in his comments and he is entitled to his opinion as are all the rude, offensive people on here who have turned this into the equivalent of a playground scrap.

I live just over the border in Letwinland and I would prefer Drax any day. If you don't want him, can we have him, please?
He does come from money but he has done other jobs, unlike so many in parliament at the moment. He also works for his constituents and seems to have no desire for power for its own sake. I think these comments were unwise and they do sound old fashioned but he is right that people should get jobs on merit and not because of gender, race or culture. There is nothing nasty in his comments and he is entitled to his opinion as are all the rude, offensive people on here who have turned this into the equivalent of a playground scrap. I live just over the border in Letwinland and I would prefer Drax any day. If you don't want him, can we have him, please? Mrs Grumps
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6:17pm Sun 27 Jul 14

JamesYoung says...

whatever66 wrote:
All these remarks should be used in comedy Personally Drax has made a big boob again therefore he should be made to step down...... He is obviously anti woman so should not have a job of position in my eyes....... Can't see why anyone would want his pompous butt in a position of trust as he has very backward views..... As pointed out he comes from money.... so let him keep himself instead of being paid for his backward comments by being an MP by the state.... so glad I never voted for the arrogant twit.
You think that he has made a big boob and is anti women because he says that decisions should be based on merit not gender?
I think your contribution is a pretty good illustration of everything that is wrong with this country. We are so keen to push agendas that we overlook common sense.
[quote][p][bold]whatever66[/bold] wrote: All these remarks should be used in comedy Personally Drax has made a big boob again therefore he should be made to step down...... He is obviously anti woman so should not have a job of position in my eyes....... Can't see why anyone would want his pompous butt in a position of trust as he has very backward views..... As pointed out he comes from money.... so let him keep himself instead of being paid for his backward comments by being an MP by the state.... so glad I never voted for the arrogant twit.[/p][/quote]You think that he has made a big boob and is anti women because he says that decisions should be based on merit not gender? I think your contribution is a pretty good illustration of everything that is wrong with this country. We are so keen to push agendas that we overlook common sense. JamesYoung
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12:46pm Mon 28 Jul 14

February1948 says...

I agree with James Young and Richard Drax. All appointments should be made according to merit and nothing else. I have no time for quotas, politically correctness or diversity either; I just want to see the best people for the jobs. Personally, I believe the PM has made some big mistakes especially in the case of Michael Gove, whom teachers hate but parents and employers love as he's done more to improve our dismal education record than anyone else. But, give the women a chance and then praise or condemn at the next election.
I agree with James Young and Richard Drax. All appointments should be made according to merit and nothing else. I have no time for quotas, politically correctness or diversity either; I just want to see the best people for the jobs. Personally, I believe the PM has made some big mistakes especially in the case of Michael Gove, whom teachers hate but parents and employers love as he's done more to improve our dismal education record than anyone else. But, give the women a chance and then praise or condemn at the next election. February1948
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