23 year-old motorcyclist and 63 year-old woman killed in Weymouth Way collision

Two people killed in collision on Weymouth Way

Two people killed in collision on Weymouth Way

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TRIBUTES and heartfelt condolences have been left for two people killed in a collision in Weymouth, and their families.

A 23-year-old motorcyclist from Weymouth, named locally as Max Fryman, a former Wey Valley School student, and a 63-year-old female pedestrian, also from Weymouth, collided shortly after 5pm on Saturday and both casualties died at the scene.

The pedestrian’s dog was also killed.

A spokesman for Dorset Police said the victims' next of kin have been informed and are being supported by police family liason officers.

Residents and local figureheads have spoken of their shock and sadness at the incident, which happened at the same spot tragic Lily-Mae Jeffries was struck in 2012 on the A354 Weymouth Way.

The road was closed from Chafeys roundabout to Swannery Bridge for around five hours as emergency services worked.

The Dorset and Somerset Air Ambulance was also called and landed in the road, but was not needed.

Police are appealing for witnesses to come forward.

A spokesman said: “Immediately prior to the collision a large, bronze-coloured Honda motorcycle was seen to travel from Westwey Road junction towards Chafeys Roundabout. During this journey the motorcycle collided with a female pedestrian and a dog, causing fatal injuries to all three.

"Any witnesses to the riding of the motorcycle or the movements of the pedestrian who have not already spoken to police are asked to contact PC Andy Loveless of the Weymouth Traffic Department by calling 101."

Officers thanked the public for their patience as investigators worked.

Many of Max's friends have posted photos of the bike enthusiast on Facebook, leaving heartfelt messages about what a 'nice' person he was.

Leave your tributes below. 

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9:01pm Sat 26 Jul 14

annotater says...

How saddening to hear.
How saddening to hear. annotater
  • Score: 29

9:41pm Sat 26 Jul 14

philthebook says...

Why do these things happen, it looks like the same area of the other tragedy the council should put up some warning of the crossing places.
Why do these things happen, it looks like the same area of the other tragedy the council should put up some warning of the crossing places. philthebook
  • Score: 11

9:50pm Sat 26 Jul 14

voiceof says...

Very sad but this is still a 50mph zone and it is madness to try and cross it on foot. Lower speed limit, add another light controlled crossing, and add barriers to stop pedestrians trying to cross elsewhere.
Very sad but this is still a 50mph zone and it is madness to try and cross it on foot. Lower speed limit, add another light controlled crossing, and add barriers to stop pedestrians trying to cross elsewhere. voiceof
  • Score: 5

10:10pm Sat 26 Jul 14

yar2007 says...

Why oh why did they install traffic islands on a 50 mph road. The council and the petitioners who wanted them are idiots. The road should be fenced off and lazy people walk along gold Croft and Newstead road to use the safer subway. No more loss of life. Simple.
Why oh why did they install traffic islands on a 50 mph road. The council and the petitioners who wanted them are idiots. The road should be fenced off and lazy people walk along gold Croft and Newstead road to use the safer subway. No more loss of life. Simple. yar2007
  • Score: 155

10:21pm Sat 26 Jul 14

gurfy says...

Regardless of how this happened it is a huge tragedy with at least 2 families grieving tonight, so with that in mind, apart from click baiting, was there really a need to add a video.

Shameful and so, so very disrespectful Echo....
Regardless of how this happened it is a huge tragedy with at least 2 families grieving tonight, so with that in mind, apart from click baiting, was there really a need to add a video. Shameful and so, so very disrespectful Echo.... gurfy
  • Score: 86

10:26pm Sat 26 Jul 14

satisfecho says...

It took 20 years for a pedestrian to be killed on this stretch of road. This death caused the traffic islands to be installed and five minutes later this.

I personally went to the events the council put on for public to view and discuss and told them my views and one was it was more likely to cause more deaths.
It took 20 years for a pedestrian to be killed on this stretch of road. This death caused the traffic islands to be installed and five minutes later this. I personally went to the events the council put on for public to view and discuss and told them my views and one was it was more likely to cause more deaths. satisfecho
  • Score: 57

10:26pm Sat 26 Jul 14

beeping stick says...

Completely agree with you yar2007 so many people try and cross roads at inappropriate places. That said the council should be cutting back plant growth to give a better line of sight.
Completely agree with you yar2007 so many people try and cross roads at inappropriate places. That said the council should be cutting back plant growth to give a better line of sight. beeping stick
  • Score: 32

10:33pm Sat 26 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

We can expect it from the Echo they are reporting news but what is the excuse of the people can be seen clearly from the footage with their camera phones shame on them... R.I.P to those that have lost their lives and my condolences to their families x
We can expect it from the Echo they are reporting news but what is the excuse of the people can be seen clearly from the footage with their camera phones shame on them... R.I.P to those that have lost their lives and my condolences to their families x whatever66
  • Score: 42

10:40pm Sat 26 Jul 14

sweetdreamgirl says...

Two families expecting their loved ones to come home now this tragedy will change their lives forever,please do not proportion blame here.heart felt condolences to all.
Two families expecting their loved ones to come home now this tragedy will change their lives forever,please do not proportion blame here.heart felt condolences to all. sweetdreamgirl
  • Score: 58

10:41pm Sat 26 Jul 14

sunny1966 says...

who ever you both were RIP. my thoughts are with your family's and loved ones. I do know how they will be feeling tonight, tomorrow, next week and the rest of their lives.
who ever you both were RIP. my thoughts are with your family's and loved ones. I do know how they will be feeling tonight, tomorrow, next week and the rest of their lives. sunny1966
  • Score: 22

10:47pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Honestytruth says...

The people that filmed and took photos at the scene why would you do that????? People should stop criticising and spare a thought for the families. Why do individuals feel the need to do this. The next thing people will be having a dig at the pedestrian for crossing at a spot where there has always been a crossing. I agree speed should be lowered but the island's should have been put in place a long time ago. We do not have all the facts so maybe its better to wait instead of speculating. My heart goes out to the deceased's families.
The people that filmed and took photos at the scene why would you do that????? People should stop criticising and spare a thought for the families. Why do individuals feel the need to do this. The next thing people will be having a dig at the pedestrian for crossing at a spot where there has always been a crossing. I agree speed should be lowered but the island's should have been put in place a long time ago. We do not have all the facts so maybe its better to wait instead of speculating. My heart goes out to the deceased's families. Honestytruth
  • Score: 24

10:48pm Sat 26 Jul 14

yar2007 says...

Not blaming anyone. Just merely stating that the road is just too dangerous to cross. The fact that both events involved motorcyclists at the same crossing should be regarded as coincidence before placing the blame on whoever. We will know once the police have carried out their investigation. But for now I hope those crossings will be removed and fenced off. I thought that when I saw work starting on it. Come on weymouth council. You got it wrong with the traffic lights, now you got it wrong with these islands. Own up!
Not blaming anyone. Just merely stating that the road is just too dangerous to cross. The fact that both events involved motorcyclists at the same crossing should be regarded as coincidence before placing the blame on whoever. We will know once the police have carried out their investigation. But for now I hope those crossings will be removed and fenced off. I thought that when I saw work starting on it. Come on weymouth council. You got it wrong with the traffic lights, now you got it wrong with these islands. Own up! yar2007
  • Score: 27

10:50pm Sat 26 Jul 14

ksmain says...

So sad that this has happened. Even sadder is that I said to my work colleagues months ago that these crossings were a serious accident waiting to happen. For me, the only sensible thing to do now is to close these walking routes to the road and rip up the crossings before there is another fatal accident. My sincere condolences to the families of those killed.
So sad that this has happened. Even sadder is that I said to my work colleagues months ago that these crossings were a serious accident waiting to happen. For me, the only sensible thing to do now is to close these walking routes to the road and rip up the crossings before there is another fatal accident. My sincere condolences to the families of those killed. ksmain
  • Score: 31

10:51pm Sat 26 Jul 14

satisfecho says...

As someone else pointed out, the council have an obligation to cut back hedgerow.

Not just on this road.

Many signs can't be read, they are adding too many blind spots and so on all adding up to the dangers and failing in prevention.
As someone else pointed out, the council have an obligation to cut back hedgerow. Not just on this road. Many signs can't be read, they are adding too many blind spots and so on all adding up to the dangers and failing in prevention. satisfecho
  • Score: 27

10:59pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Honestytruth says...

yar2007 wrote:
Why oh why did they install traffic islands on a 50 mph road. The council and the petitioners who wanted them are idiots. The road should be fenced off and lazy people walk along gold Croft and Newstead road to use the safer subway. No more loss of life. Simple.
They were not lazy nor are they idiots.
[quote][p][bold]yar2007[/bold] wrote: Why oh why did they install traffic islands on a 50 mph road. The council and the petitioners who wanted them are idiots. The road should be fenced off and lazy people walk along gold Croft and Newstead road to use the safer subway. No more loss of life. Simple.[/p][/quote]They were not lazy nor are they idiots. Honestytruth
  • Score: -5

11:17pm Sat 26 Jul 14

malkie says...

yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways. malkie
  • Score: 23

11:35pm Sat 26 Jul 14

yar2007 says...

I thought it came into the jurisdiction of Weymouth and Portland borough regardless of Dorset County Council. For once I commend them on the Southill crossing but the Weymouth Way crossings are just plain stupid and regardless of before and after the islands were installed. That road is simply put not safe to cross. Even when they did cut back the hedgerows. The bend there is dangerous and people should not be crossing it. I would never ever ever cross there and I live in Southill so I should know a thing or two about how hard is it to cross the road at the roundabout!!
I thought it came into the jurisdiction of Weymouth and Portland borough regardless of Dorset County Council. For once I commend them on the Southill crossing but the Weymouth Way crossings are just plain stupid and regardless of before and after the islands were installed. That road is simply put not safe to cross. Even when they did cut back the hedgerows. The bend there is dangerous and people should not be crossing it. I would never ever ever cross there and I live in Southill so I should know a thing or two about how hard is it to cross the road at the roundabout!! yar2007
  • Score: 22

11:54pm Sat 26 Jul 14

ben elf says...

when the hell will we reliese that people and traffic don't mix, start building bridges !!!!!!
when the hell will we reliese that people and traffic don't mix, start building bridges !!!!!! ben elf
  • Score: 60

12:46am Sun 27 Jul 14

ksmain says...

Honestytruth wrote:
The people that filmed and took photos at the scene why would you do that????? People should stop criticising and spare a thought for the families. Why do individuals feel the need to do this. The next thing people will be having a dig at the pedestrian for crossing at a spot where there has always been a crossing. I agree speed should be lowered but the island's should have been put in place a long time ago. We do not have all the facts so maybe its better to wait instead of speculating. My heart goes out to the deceased's families.
I suspect in 1850 you could wander where you liked that side of Weymouth as it was all green fields - but we don't live in 1850 no more. People wanting to walk can go down Goldcroft and Newstead to use the underpass to cross or they can use the crossings at the Chafeys Roundabout which are safer as traffic is slower. My fear is there will be more accidents at these crossings - whatever speed limit you put on it, it is still a busy road, and as a road user I always thought they were a poor idea. To be honest I wouldn't use them as a pedestrian myself.
[quote][p][bold]Honestytruth[/bold] wrote: The people that filmed and took photos at the scene why would you do that????? People should stop criticising and spare a thought for the families. Why do individuals feel the need to do this. The next thing people will be having a dig at the pedestrian for crossing at a spot where there has always been a crossing. I agree speed should be lowered but the island's should have been put in place a long time ago. We do not have all the facts so maybe its better to wait instead of speculating. My heart goes out to the deceased's families.[/p][/quote]I suspect in 1850 you could wander where you liked that side of Weymouth as it was all green fields - but we don't live in 1850 no more. People wanting to walk can go down Goldcroft and Newstead to use the underpass to cross or they can use the crossings at the Chafeys Roundabout which are safer as traffic is slower. My fear is there will be more accidents at these crossings - whatever speed limit you put on it, it is still a busy road, and as a road user I always thought they were a poor idea. To be honest I wouldn't use them as a pedestrian myself. ksmain
  • Score: 18

8:40am Sun 27 Jul 14

rbdeejay says...

How many more deaths at that crossing before the council do something about it? Especially after last time, I feel so sorry for the motorcyclist there's no way they could have reacted in time.
Blood is on your hands W&P council, how about spend our council tax on making Weymouth a safer environment for pedestrians and motorists alike, chances are most of our tax money goes on their wage checks!
R.I.P to both casualties, my thoughts are with the families!
How many more deaths at that crossing before the council do something about it? Especially after last time, I feel so sorry for the motorcyclist there's no way they could have reacted in time. Blood is on your hands W&P council, how about spend our council tax on making Weymouth a safer environment for pedestrians and motorists alike, chances are most of our tax money goes on their wage checks! R.I.P to both casualties, my thoughts are with the families! rbdeejay
  • Score: -25

9:27am Sun 27 Jul 14

Equilibrium says...

Putting pedestrian crossings on pretty much blind bends was never going to end well. I understand the Council were recognising that if people insist on crissin there, they had to make efforts to try and make it safer. However, all it does is encourage an unsafe situation. Somebody said it was lazy to cross there. It is. There are nearby safe crossing points only a couple of hundred meters in either direction. Nobody deserved to die for it though. People need to wake up and use their eyes. Nothing about crossing there is safe and the islands should be removed.

On a side note, people insisting on crossing on the King Street junction with the Esplanade are begging to be run over too. There is a safe crossing point IMMEDIATELY next to where they are crossing! Rest in peace fallen one's and everyone else, take responsibility for yourselves.
Putting pedestrian crossings on pretty much blind bends was never going to end well. I understand the Council were recognising that if people insist on crissin there, they had to make efforts to try and make it safer. However, all it does is encourage an unsafe situation. Somebody said it was lazy to cross there. It is. There are nearby safe crossing points only a couple of hundred meters in either direction. Nobody deserved to die for it though. People need to wake up and use their eyes. Nothing about crossing there is safe and the islands should be removed. On a side note, people insisting on crossing on the King Street junction with the Esplanade are begging to be run over too. There is a safe crossing point IMMEDIATELY next to where they are crossing! Rest in peace fallen one's and everyone else, take responsibility for yourselves. Equilibrium
  • Score: 20

9:27am Sun 27 Jul 14

Noidear says...

I think it would be appropriate to keep these distasteful comments to your selfs , think how you'd feel if it was a family member of yours,
I think it would be appropriate to keep these distasteful comments to your selfs , think how you'd feel if it was a family member of yours, Noidear
  • Score: 26

10:19am Sun 27 Jul 14

ksmain says...

Equilibrium wrote:
Putting pedestrian crossings on pretty much blind bends was never going to end well. I understand the Council were recognising that if people insist on crissin there, they had to make efforts to try and make it safer. However, all it does is encourage an unsafe situation. Somebody said it was lazy to cross there. It is. There are nearby safe crossing points only a couple of hundred meters in either direction. Nobody deserved to die for it though. People need to wake up and use their eyes. Nothing about crossing there is safe and the islands should be removed.

On a side note, people insisting on crossing on the King Street junction with the Esplanade are begging to be run over too. There is a safe crossing point IMMEDIATELY next to where they are crossing! Rest in peace fallen one's and everyone else, take responsibility for yourselves.
I agree totally with you re Kings Street. They ought to install 5 foot high fences on the pavement edge both sides to prevent it.

I passed a cyclist on the same stretch of road these two poor people were killed on last night with no front lights on - courting disaster.
[quote][p][bold]Equilibrium[/bold] wrote: Putting pedestrian crossings on pretty much blind bends was never going to end well. I understand the Council were recognising that if people insist on crissin there, they had to make efforts to try and make it safer. However, all it does is encourage an unsafe situation. Somebody said it was lazy to cross there. It is. There are nearby safe crossing points only a couple of hundred meters in either direction. Nobody deserved to die for it though. People need to wake up and use their eyes. Nothing about crossing there is safe and the islands should be removed. On a side note, people insisting on crossing on the King Street junction with the Esplanade are begging to be run over too. There is a safe crossing point IMMEDIATELY next to where they are crossing! Rest in peace fallen one's and everyone else, take responsibility for yourselves.[/p][/quote]I agree totally with you re Kings Street. They ought to install 5 foot high fences on the pavement edge both sides to prevent it. I passed a cyclist on the same stretch of road these two poor people were killed on last night with no front lights on - courting disaster. ksmain
  • Score: 16

10:25am Sun 27 Jul 14

Sidney Hall says...

So sad to read this, has me dwelling on the destruction of many lives that such a tragedy causes, I've seen it and felt it before.
.
There are many errors to this road, some have been pointed out above. Any one on its own might not be a problem but its only a matter of time when more than one together becomes a tragedy.
I think that motorists heading north are subconsciously encouraged to drive fast on this stretch. They queue at the lights in 2 lanes. Often feel the need to get away quick to gain a position over the vehicle next to them. Maybe more than 1 vehicle, maybe 2 or 3, can be overtaken before the road becomes 1 lane again - a challenge is laid down. Not many like this so they accelerate to maintain their perceived slot......and a race is on. Nearly every time the lights change to green. Whoever gets to the front is then obliged to keep it up and get a move on.....all the way to Chafeys. Combine that with blind spots, unexpected pedestrians, unexpected stationery vehice, not regulars on that stretch of road etc....we all know the outcomes when we combine speed with any of these other errors.
So sad to read this, has me dwelling on the destruction of many lives that such a tragedy causes, I've seen it and felt it before. . There are many errors to this road, some have been pointed out above. Any one on its own might not be a problem but its only a matter of time when more than one together becomes a tragedy. I think that motorists heading north are subconsciously encouraged to drive fast on this stretch. They queue at the lights in 2 lanes. Often feel the need to get away quick to gain a position over the vehicle next to them. Maybe more than 1 vehicle, maybe 2 or 3, can be overtaken before the road becomes 1 lane again - a challenge is laid down. Not many like this so they accelerate to maintain their perceived slot......and a race is on. Nearly every time the lights change to green. Whoever gets to the front is then obliged to keep it up and get a move on.....all the way to Chafeys. Combine that with blind spots, unexpected pedestrians, unexpected stationery vehice, not regulars on that stretch of road etc....we all know the outcomes when we combine speed with any of these other errors. Sidney Hall
  • Score: 29

10:34am Sun 27 Jul 14

Billy1mate says...

malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
[quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics. Billy1mate
  • Score: 3

10:39am Sun 27 Jul 14

Billy1mate says...

Sidney Hall wrote:
So sad to read this, has me dwelling on the destruction of many lives that such a tragedy causes, I've seen it and felt it before.
.
There are many errors to this road, some have been pointed out above. Any one on its own might not be a problem but its only a matter of time when more than one together becomes a tragedy.
I think that motorists heading north are subconsciously encouraged to drive fast on this stretch. They queue at the lights in 2 lanes. Often feel the need to get away quick to gain a position over the vehicle next to them. Maybe more than 1 vehicle, maybe 2 or 3, can be overtaken before the road becomes 1 lane again - a challenge is laid down. Not many like this so they accelerate to maintain their perceived slot......and a race is on. Nearly every time the lights change to green. Whoever gets to the front is then obliged to keep it up and get a move on.....all the way to Chafeys. Combine that with blind spots, unexpected pedestrians, unexpected stationery vehice, not regulars on that stretch of road etc....we all know the outcomes when we combine speed with any of these other errors.
Id had the same situation 2 weeks ago to not be stuck behind a lorry, the car in front went, I followed him and he then decided I was too close and slammed his brakes on, silly man, (silver '10 reg Astra). I should have stayed behind the lorry.
[quote][p][bold]Sidney Hall[/bold] wrote: So sad to read this, has me dwelling on the destruction of many lives that such a tragedy causes, I've seen it and felt it before. . There are many errors to this road, some have been pointed out above. Any one on its own might not be a problem but its only a matter of time when more than one together becomes a tragedy. I think that motorists heading north are subconsciously encouraged to drive fast on this stretch. They queue at the lights in 2 lanes. Often feel the need to get away quick to gain a position over the vehicle next to them. Maybe more than 1 vehicle, maybe 2 or 3, can be overtaken before the road becomes 1 lane again - a challenge is laid down. Not many like this so they accelerate to maintain their perceived slot......and a race is on. Nearly every time the lights change to green. Whoever gets to the front is then obliged to keep it up and get a move on.....all the way to Chafeys. Combine that with blind spots, unexpected pedestrians, unexpected stationery vehice, not regulars on that stretch of road etc....we all know the outcomes when we combine speed with any of these other errors.[/p][/quote]Id had the same situation 2 weeks ago to not be stuck behind a lorry, the car in front went, I followed him and he then decided I was too close and slammed his brakes on, silly man, (silver '10 reg Astra). I should have stayed behind the lorry. Billy1mate
  • Score: -11

11:35am Sun 27 Jul 14

Badger1966 says...

Rip to all who lost there lives in this tragic accident :-( :-(
Looking at this from an hgv drivers point of view that travels all over the roads of this once great country.... whats needed on the crossing places on this major road with fast flowing traffic is an overhead walkway to keep everyone out of harms way...
Rip to all who lost there lives in this tragic accident :-( :-( Looking at this from an hgv drivers point of view that travels all over the roads of this once great country.... whats needed on the crossing places on this major road with fast flowing traffic is an overhead walkway to keep everyone out of harms way... Badger1966
  • Score: 29

12:10pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Sally MacLennane says...

Asking for witnesses, but it doesn't say when it happened...
Asking for witnesses, but it doesn't say when it happened... Sally MacLennane
  • Score: -22

12:14pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Vulpesv says...

My thoughts are with there families at this time 3 innocences taken to soon.
50mph?? I thought it was 40?
No one can be blamed people for this. Everyone takes a risk what ever roads they cross. Not everyone uses crossings, some people drive like nutters in the middle of Weymouth and look at the bit by ASDA.
Drives are not always be alert for dangers, esp if over taking other cars and such. Until the facts come through, we are in the dark.
The highways agency does cut back the trees but they have an extremely limited budget. perhaps if there was a volunteer day so people could help with the job.. but then there's insurance. etc etc...

Thoughts to the families though.
My thoughts are with there families at this time 3 innocences taken to soon. 50mph?? I thought it was 40? No one can be blamed people for this. Everyone takes a risk what ever roads they cross. Not everyone uses crossings, some people drive like nutters in the middle of Weymouth and look at the bit by ASDA. Drives are not always be alert for dangers, esp if over taking other cars and such. Until the facts come through, we are in the dark. The highways agency does cut back the trees but they have an extremely limited budget. perhaps if there was a volunteer day so people could help with the job.. but then there's insurance. etc etc... Thoughts to the families though. Vulpesv
  • Score: -1

12:24pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Hrw-Amen says...

If there was an overhead walkway built there would people use it or would all those steps be seen as too much of an effort?

It is so sad to see people killed regardless of if they are pedestrians, drivers or riders. It does seem to me to be a very dangerous spot, as a driver (And rider.) approaching it you can never be sure if there is anyone about to cross until you are right on top of them when it is far too late to do anything about it if they step off the curb.
If there was an overhead walkway built there would people use it or would all those steps be seen as too much of an effort? It is so sad to see people killed regardless of if they are pedestrians, drivers or riders. It does seem to me to be a very dangerous spot, as a driver (And rider.) approaching it you can never be sure if there is anyone about to cross until you are right on top of them when it is far too late to do anything about it if they step off the curb. Hrw-Amen
  • Score: 14

12:24pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Duckorange says...

yar2007 wrote:
Why oh why did they install traffic islands on a 50 mph road. The council and the petitioners who wanted them are idiots. The road should be fenced off and lazy people walk along gold Croft and Newstead road to use the safer subway. No more loss of life. Simple.
Please - I see this post got a lot of up-votes, but this is neither the time nor the place to call people idiots and lazy. Show some respect, two people and a pet are dead.

Commiserations to the families on their dreadful loss.
[quote][p][bold]yar2007[/bold] wrote: Why oh why did they install traffic islands on a 50 mph road. The council and the petitioners who wanted them are idiots. The road should be fenced off and lazy people walk along gold Croft and Newstead road to use the safer subway. No more loss of life. Simple.[/p][/quote]Please - I see this post got a lot of up-votes, but this is neither the time nor the place to call people idiots and lazy. Show some respect, two people and a pet are dead. Commiserations to the families on their dreadful loss. Duckorange
  • Score: 26

12:39pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Zummerzet Lad says...

Probably get negative comments back but the Middle Farm Way out of Poundbury which many think should be 40 MPH because of lack of housing is only 30MPH. More people are trying to cross Weymouth Way than the road in Poundbury so a lower speed limit should come in on Weymouth Way closer to these "crossing points". Doesn't the advert say that as a pedestrian you have less chance of being killed if in a collision with a car at 30MPH?

Real problem solver should be prevention of pedestrians crossing in a similar manner to the design of the latter stage of the Weymouth Relief
Road with high fencing and overhead bridge.

Before someone says COST, how much for another life lost.

The latest victims, including a family pet, is causing distress to those left behind and can be prevented happening again if the local authorities act NOW!!!
Probably get negative comments back but the Middle Farm Way out of Poundbury which many think should be 40 MPH because of lack of housing is only 30MPH. More people are trying to cross Weymouth Way than the road in Poundbury so a lower speed limit should come in on Weymouth Way closer to these "crossing points". Doesn't the advert say that as a pedestrian you have less chance of being killed if in a collision with a car at 30MPH? Real problem solver should be prevention of pedestrians crossing in a similar manner to the design of the latter stage of the Weymouth Relief Road with high fencing and overhead bridge. Before someone says COST, how much for another life lost. The latest victims, including a family pet, is causing distress to those left behind and can be prevented happening again if the local authorities act NOW!!! Zummerzet Lad
  • Score: 16

1:10pm Sun 27 Jul 14

satisfecho says...

A comment earlier was that some race away from Westway junction.

This incident was 3/4 mile on from that junction.

The crossing point this had happened is at a point where it is a blind spot until very late on due to the bend and verge side growth.

It is so easy to see why this is a dangerous crossing point, which you can see here on Google Maps http://bit.ly/1rpIxN
z

If any vehicle is travelling at speed which regrettably too many motorcyclists are obsessed with doing then there will be only be so much time to react until tragedy happens.
A comment earlier was that some race away from Westway junction. This incident was 3/4 mile on from that junction. The crossing point this had happened is at a point where it is a blind spot until very late on due to the bend and verge side growth. It is so easy to see why this is a dangerous crossing point, which you can see here on Google Maps http://bit.ly/1rpIxN z If any vehicle is travelling at speed which regrettably too many motorcyclists are obsessed with doing then there will be only be so much time to react until tragedy happens. satisfecho
  • Score: -10

1:18pm Sun 27 Jul 14

1Kimberlin says...

Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP
Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP 1Kimberlin
  • Score: 25

2:16pm Sun 27 Jul 14

K9 says...

Would be cheap for vehicles to have a simpler form of an aircraft's "black box" that recorded recent activity; wouldn't have to survive tough conditions, e.g. fire. Would aid investigators in establishing what happened when no witnesses, thereby increasing the chance of a worthwhile outcome in road changes, etc.
Would be cheap for vehicles to have a simpler form of an aircraft's "black box" that recorded recent activity; wouldn't have to survive tough conditions, e.g. fire. Would aid investigators in establishing what happened when no witnesses, thereby increasing the chance of a worthwhile outcome in road changes, etc. K9
  • Score: -11

2:16pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Hippyhooker says...

Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
[quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot Hippyhooker
  • Score: -10

2:19pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Hippyhooker says...

1Kimberlin wrote:
Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP
Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,
[quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP[/p][/quote]Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed, Hippyhooker
  • Score: -8

2:26pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Hippyhooker says...

Condolences to the families, but I fear this won't be the last tragedy we hear of in this area now the powers that be carried out knee jerk safety measures, the traffic lights they installed is a major accident waiting to happen, I've seen traffic fly off the roundabout to be confronted with static traffic at the lights and just about stopped in time. The ONLY answer is either an underpass or bridge anything else will cost lives, it is after all a fast moving by pass so you can't expect slow moving traffic.
Condolences to the families, but I fear this won't be the last tragedy we hear of in this area now the powers that be carried out knee jerk safety measures, the traffic lights they installed is a major accident waiting to happen, I've seen traffic fly off the roundabout to be confronted with static traffic at the lights and just about stopped in time. The ONLY answer is either an underpass or bridge anything else will cost lives, it is after all a fast moving by pass so you can't expect slow moving traffic. Hippyhooker
  • Score: 11

2:34pm Sun 27 Jul 14

wurzelbasher says...

gurfy wrote:
Regardless of how this happened it is a huge tragedy with at least 2 families grieving tonight, so with that in mind, apart from click baiting, was there really a need to add a video.

Shameful and so, so very disrespectful Echo....
Video unnecessary, as was the preceding advert!
[quote][p][bold]gurfy[/bold] wrote: Regardless of how this happened it is a huge tragedy with at least 2 families grieving tonight, so with that in mind, apart from click baiting, was there really a need to add a video. Shameful and so, so very disrespectful Echo....[/p][/quote]Video unnecessary, as was the preceding advert! wurzelbasher
  • Score: 8

2:50pm Sun 27 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

Hippyhooker wrote:
1Kimberlin wrote:
Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP
Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,
So agree with you Kimberly ....... hippyhooker exactly 50 mph means do not exceed this limit this is a link road designed to keep traffic out of town's and away from general population there have been no accidents on any other parts linked to it as far as I can remember people living on the Radipole estate dont cross the road to the swannery from the morrisons end along the link road as there is no access to get to the road. There is a pavement linking the rest with lights.
[quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP[/p][/quote]Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,[/p][/quote]So agree with you Kimberly ....... hippyhooker exactly 50 mph means do not exceed this limit this is a link road designed to keep traffic out of town's and away from general population there have been no accidents on any other parts linked to it as far as I can remember people living on the Radipole estate dont cross the road to the swannery from the morrisons end along the link road as there is no access to get to the road. There is a pavement linking the rest with lights. whatever66
  • Score: 7

2:53pm Sun 27 Jul 14

firelighter says...

Desperately sad.
It staggers me how quickly some Echo readers apportion blame and make criticism. Where you there? Did you see it? No? Then let's wait until there are facts put in front of us. Words like "lazy" and "stupid" about people who cross the road are ignorant and disrespectful.
RIP the victims.
Desperately sad. It staggers me how quickly some Echo readers apportion blame and make criticism. Where you there? Did you see it? No? Then let's wait until there are facts put in front of us. Words like "lazy" and "stupid" about people who cross the road are ignorant and disrespectful. RIP the victims. firelighter
  • Score: 29

3:47pm Sun 27 Jul 14

weymouthresident says...

firelighter wrote:
Desperately sad.
It staggers me how quickly some Echo readers apportion blame and make criticism. Where you there? Did you see it? No? Then let's wait until there are facts put in front of us. Words like "lazy" and "stupid" about people who cross the road are ignorant and disrespectful.
RIP the victims.
Totally agree with firelighter. The above comments seem to imply that either the poor lady wasn't be responsible in crossing where she did or that the motorcyclist was travelling too fast. Until it has been established what happened please have sympathy for the families who've lost their loved ones and don't try and apportion blame for what seems like an extremely tragic accident.

My condolences to both families at this awful time.
[quote][p][bold]firelighter[/bold] wrote: Desperately sad. It staggers me how quickly some Echo readers apportion blame and make criticism. Where you there? Did you see it? No? Then let's wait until there are facts put in front of us. Words like "lazy" and "stupid" about people who cross the road are ignorant and disrespectful. RIP the victims.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with firelighter. The above comments seem to imply that either the poor lady wasn't be responsible in crossing where she did or that the motorcyclist was travelling too fast. Until it has been established what happened please have sympathy for the families who've lost their loved ones and don't try and apportion blame for what seems like an extremely tragic accident. My condolences to both families at this awful time. weymouthresident
  • Score: 23

3:53pm Sun 27 Jul 14

welfarelady says...

so very very sad, my families thoughts are with those bereaved by this terrible tragedy...also the poor dog
so very very sad, my families thoughts are with those bereaved by this terrible tragedy...also the poor dog welfarelady
  • Score: 24

3:58pm Sun 27 Jul 14

norosetintedglasses says...

Just waiting for the fatal pedestrian accident at the top of KING STREET. Name the bright spark who decided to remove the railings. I have even seen people in wheel chairs trying to cross there. Remember drivers are watching the traffic lights and other traffic and do not expect to see pedestrians crossing there, especially when there is a subway. But that is another story.
Just waiting for the fatal pedestrian accident at the top of KING STREET. Name the bright spark who decided to remove the railings. I have even seen people in wheel chairs trying to cross there. Remember drivers are watching the traffic lights and other traffic and do not expect to see pedestrians crossing there, especially when there is a subway. But that is another story. norosetintedglasses
  • Score: 23

4:22pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Under35andout says...

Hippyhooker wrote:
Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot
[quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot[/p][/quote]actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot Under35andout
  • Score: -16

4:23pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Under35andout says...

as for the videos ,. freedom of press ,. no one complains about the thousands of videos of car crashes on youtube where people die on impact
as for the videos ,. freedom of press ,. no one complains about the thousands of videos of car crashes on youtube where people die on impact Under35andout
  • Score: 4

4:34pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Chicken Wings says...

My utmost sympathies to the families, at this very sad time
My utmost sympathies to the families, at this very sad time Chicken Wings
  • Score: 6

4:35pm Sun 27 Jul 14

yar2007 says...

Nobody will use the overhead bridge. They should use the next, nearer, safer crossing. Simple. I've nothing against bikes. I'm a bike fan myself. Just simply stating that the crossing should not be there at that point.
Nobody will use the overhead bridge. They should use the next, nearer, safer crossing. Simple. I've nothing against bikes. I'm a bike fan myself. Just simply stating that the crossing should not be there at that point. yar2007
  • Score: 7

4:54pm Sun 27 Jul 14

satisfecho says...

And less than 24 hours later, just had the audible displeasure of having to listen to another motorcyclist try and break the speed of sound of the same stretch of road.
And less than 24 hours later, just had the audible displeasure of having to listen to another motorcyclist try and break the speed of sound of the same stretch of road. satisfecho
  • Score: 10

4:56pm Sun 27 Jul 14

satisfecho says...

Under35andout wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot
Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please.
[quote][p][bold]Under35andout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot[/p][/quote]actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot[/p][/quote]Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please. satisfecho
  • Score: -2

4:58pm Sun 27 Jul 14

islandman says...

norosetintedglasses wrote:
Just waiting for the fatal pedestrian accident at the top of KING STREET. Name the bright spark who decided to remove the railings. I have even seen people in wheel chairs trying to cross there. Remember drivers are watching the traffic lights and other traffic and do not expect to see pedestrians crossing there, especially when there is a subway. But that is another story.
I agree entirely. I wonder if W&PBC have prepared a statement in readiness for such an event. It might be worth W&PBC sending someone to monitor EXACTLY how many people cross that section of road instead of counting cars.
[quote][p][bold]norosetintedglasses[/bold] wrote: Just waiting for the fatal pedestrian accident at the top of KING STREET. Name the bright spark who decided to remove the railings. I have even seen people in wheel chairs trying to cross there. Remember drivers are watching the traffic lights and other traffic and do not expect to see pedestrians crossing there, especially when there is a subway. But that is another story.[/p][/quote]I agree entirely. I wonder if W&PBC have prepared a statement in readiness for such an event. It might be worth W&PBC sending someone to monitor EXACTLY how many people cross that section of road instead of counting cars. islandman
  • Score: -1

5:23pm Sun 27 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

satisfecho wrote:
And less than 24 hours later, just had the audible displeasure of having to listen to another motorcyclist try and break the speed of sound of the same stretch of road.
You mean he has a loud can a loud can aka exjaust to let you know he is coming due to the fact people have loud music in there cars. Stop laying blame. The lady died in the same spot as Lily....... not the crossing provided.
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: And less than 24 hours later, just had the audible displeasure of having to listen to another motorcyclist try and break the speed of sound of the same stretch of road.[/p][/quote]You mean he has a loud can a loud can aka exjaust to let you know he is coming due to the fact people have loud music in there cars. Stop laying blame. The lady died in the same spot as Lily....... not the crossing provided. whatever66
  • Score: -8

5:25pm Sun 27 Jul 14

fraggles1 says...

satisfecho wrote:
Under35andout wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot
Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please.
The poor young lad who died at asda junction was Lewis Monks RIP
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Under35andout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot[/p][/quote]actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot[/p][/quote]Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please.[/p][/quote]The poor young lad who died at asda junction was Lewis Monks RIP fraggles1
  • Score: 5

5:26pm Sun 27 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

satisfecho wrote:
And less than 24 hours later, just had the audible displeasure of having to listen to another motorcyclist try and break the speed of sound of the same stretch of road.
You mean he has a loud can a loud can aka exjaust to let you know he is coming due to the fact people have loud music in there cars. Stop laying blame. The lady died in the same spot as Lily....... not the crossing provided.
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: And less than 24 hours later, just had the audible displeasure of having to listen to another motorcyclist try and break the speed of sound of the same stretch of road.[/p][/quote]You mean he has a loud can a loud can aka exjaust to let you know he is coming due to the fact people have loud music in there cars. Stop laying blame. The lady died in the same spot as Lily....... not the crossing provided. whatever66
  • Score: -15

5:48pm Sun 27 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

Im sorry about my above post but putting the blame on the motorcycle is not going to help the lads parents. The ladys dog could of slipped his lead and she could of gone to grab him.
Im sorry about my above post but putting the blame on the motorcycle is not going to help the lads parents. The ladys dog could of slipped his lead and she could of gone to grab him. whatever66
  • Score: 10

5:54pm Sun 27 Jul 14

satisfecho says...

fraggles1 wrote:
satisfecho wrote:
Under35andout wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot
Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please.
The poor young lad who died at asda junction was Lewis Monks RIP
Near the Asda junction then, not at the Asda junction
[quote][p][bold]fraggles1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Under35andout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot[/p][/quote]actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot[/p][/quote]Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please.[/p][/quote]The poor young lad who died at asda junction was Lewis Monks RIP[/p][/quote]Near the Asda junction then, not at the Asda junction satisfecho
  • Score: -7

6:15pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Voiceofdom says...

I was travelling out from Weymouth on my motorcycle yesterday afternoon around 2pm and had a lady step out in exactly the same place, luckily she saw me and jumped back. With the long grass etc on the verge visibility is severely hampered at that point and makes for a very dangerous crossing
I was travelling out from Weymouth on my motorcycle yesterday afternoon around 2pm and had a lady step out in exactly the same place, luckily she saw me and jumped back. With the long grass etc on the verge visibility is severely hampered at that point and makes for a very dangerous crossing Voiceofdom
  • Score: 18

6:38pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Hippyhooker says...

Hippyhooker wrote:
1Kimberlin wrote:
Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP
Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,
6 people give the thumbs down = 6 people who are clueless when it comes to the law, and we wonder why so many people lose their life on our roads !
[quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP[/p][/quote]Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,[/p][/quote]6 people give the thumbs down = 6 people who are clueless when it comes to the law, and we wonder why so many people lose their life on our roads ! Hippyhooker
  • Score: -14

6:39pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Hippyhooker says...

Hippyhooker wrote:
Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
Another 3 thumbs down, why is that would those 3 people like to point out where my statement is incorrect? lol
[quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot[/p][/quote]Another 3 thumbs down, why is that would those 3 people like to point out where my statement is incorrect? lol Hippyhooker
  • Score: -21

6:44pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Hippyhooker says...

satisfecho wrote:
fraggles1 wrote:
satisfecho wrote:
Under35andout wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot
Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please.
The poor young lad who died at asda junction was Lewis Monks RIP
Near the Asda junction then, not at the Asda junction
There has NOT been 5 accidents at the lights by Asdas, there has been ONE minor accident, and certainly no deaths, you friend was killed about 100 metres away from the junction which had no bearing on his death, and you think I'm an idiot !
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fraggles1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Under35andout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot[/p][/quote]actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot[/p][/quote]Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please.[/p][/quote]The poor young lad who died at asda junction was Lewis Monks RIP[/p][/quote]Near the Asda junction then, not at the Asda junction[/p][/quote]There has NOT been 5 accidents at the lights by Asdas, there has been ONE minor accident, and certainly no deaths, you friend was killed about 100 metres away from the junction which had no bearing on his death, and you think I'm an idiot ! Hippyhooker
  • Score: 8

7:00pm Sun 27 Jul 14

familyfirst says...

Rip Max. So very sad you were taken so soon. Far to young with ur whole life ahead of you. Your parents should be very proud of raising a truely lovely lad.
Thoughts are also with the lady & her pooch's family!
Rip Max. So very sad you were taken so soon. Far to young with ur whole life ahead of you. Your parents should be very proud of raising a truely lovely lad. Thoughts are also with the lady & her pooch's family! familyfirst
  • Score: 20

7:14pm Sun 27 Jul 14

1Kimberlin says...

Hippyhooker wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
1Kimberlin wrote:
Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP
Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,
6 people give the thumbs down = 6 people who are clueless when it comes to the law, and we wonder why so many people lose their life on our roads !
Should not a pedestrian make sure they cross a road in a suitable safe place?
Were you there ?
Do you know how fast the Biker was traveling?
I suspect your answer to both to be No. So therefore your view of this tragic accident is one of pure supposition. NOT on the facts. For someone who likes to bang their gums a lot you do talk an awful lot of C**p
PS There are no Central Reservations on this road by the way FACT
[quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP[/p][/quote]Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,[/p][/quote]6 people give the thumbs down = 6 people who are clueless when it comes to the law, and we wonder why so many people lose their life on our roads ![/p][/quote]Should not a pedestrian make sure they cross a road in a suitable safe place? Were you there ? Do you know how fast the Biker was traveling? I suspect your answer to both to be No. So therefore your view of this tragic accident is one of pure supposition. NOT on the facts. For someone who likes to bang their gums a lot you do talk an awful lot of C**p PS There are no Central Reservations on this road by the way FACT 1Kimberlin
  • Score: 1

7:23pm Sun 27 Jul 14

LynM says...

Hippyhooker wrote:
satisfecho wrote:
fraggles1 wrote:
satisfecho wrote:
Under35andout wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot
Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please.
The poor young lad who died at asda junction was Lewis Monks RIP
Near the Asda junction then, not at the Asda junction
There has NOT been 5 accidents at the lights by Asdas, there has been ONE minor accident, and certainly no deaths, you friend was killed about 100 metres away from the junction which had no bearing on his death, and you think I'm an idiot !
There have been numerous accidents at the Asda lights, albeit not necessarily serious but some could well have been.
[quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fraggles1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Under35andout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot[/p][/quote]actually there has been deaths already at the asda junction and many crashes i seen myself 5 crashes of cars and a friend got run over and killed by a bus there so your wrong there , idiot[/p][/quote]Can you provide details of the deaths at the Asda junction please.[/p][/quote]The poor young lad who died at asda junction was Lewis Monks RIP[/p][/quote]Near the Asda junction then, not at the Asda junction[/p][/quote]There has NOT been 5 accidents at the lights by Asdas, there has been ONE minor accident, and certainly no deaths, you friend was killed about 100 metres away from the junction which had no bearing on his death, and you think I'm an idiot ![/p][/quote]There have been numerous accidents at the Asda lights, albeit not necessarily serious but some could well have been. LynM
  • Score: 12

7:26pm Sun 27 Jul 14

shellangel says...

I'm sure it said above "please leave condolences below" not have a row. Isn't it sad enough that people have died, their family will most probably read all this and think that rows or bickering has occurred from this........ R.I.P to both people and thoughts are with both families x
I'm sure it said above "please leave condolences below" not have a row. Isn't it sad enough that people have died, their family will most probably read all this and think that rows or bickering has occurred from this........ R.I.P to both people and thoughts are with both families x shellangel
  • Score: 32

7:30pm Sun 27 Jul 14

LynM says...

1Kimberlin wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
1Kimberlin wrote:
Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP
Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,
6 people give the thumbs down = 6 people who are clueless when it comes to the law, and we wonder why so many people lose their life on our roads !
Should not a pedestrian make sure they cross a road in a suitable safe place?
Were you there ?
Do you know how fast the Biker was traveling?
I suspect your answer to both to be No. So therefore your view of this tragic accident is one of pure supposition. NOT on the facts. For someone who likes to bang their gums a lot you do talk an awful lot of C**p
PS There are no Central Reservations on this road by the way FACT
There are crossing islands which is what was being referred to. There's no need to be so pedantic after such s tragic
[quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP[/p][/quote]Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,[/p][/quote]6 people give the thumbs down = 6 people who are clueless when it comes to the law, and we wonder why so many people lose their life on our roads ![/p][/quote]Should not a pedestrian make sure they cross a road in a suitable safe place? Were you there ? Do you know how fast the Biker was traveling? I suspect your answer to both to be No. So therefore your view of this tragic accident is one of pure supposition. NOT on the facts. For someone who likes to bang their gums a lot you do talk an awful lot of C**p PS There are no Central Reservations on this road by the way FACT[/p][/quote]There are crossing islands which is what was being referred to. There's no need to be so pedantic after such s tragic LynM
  • Score: 8

8:02pm Sun 27 Jul 14

custos says...

It is very sad to see such unpleasant bickering when two human beings have died so tragically. However the fact is then when the Weymouth Way was constructed it cut across at least three well used public footpaths and no provision whatsoever was made to facilitate safe crossing of the carriageway. For Southill residents this has now (at last) been rectified but anyone who lives south of the new crossing does not have safe access to even that. Clearly the footpaths from Goldcroft Avenue and Pottery Lane need similar crossings.
It is very sad to see such unpleasant bickering when two human beings have died so tragically. However the fact is then when the Weymouth Way was constructed it cut across at least three well used public footpaths and no provision whatsoever was made to facilitate safe crossing of the carriageway. For Southill residents this has now (at last) been rectified but anyone who lives south of the new crossing does not have safe access to even that. Clearly the footpaths from Goldcroft Avenue and Pottery Lane need similar crossings. custos
  • Score: 12

8:07pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Caption Sensible says...

For goodness sake remove those stupid islands and build a bridge across the road.

At the moment pedestrians are being enticed into the middle of a main arterial road.

It was a tragedy just waiting to happen.
For goodness sake remove those stupid islands and build a bridge across the road. At the moment pedestrians are being enticed into the middle of a main arterial road. It was a tragedy just waiting to happen. Caption Sensible
  • Score: 7

8:32pm Sun 27 Jul 14

I'mavoter says...

yar2007 wrote:
Not blaming anyone. Just merely stating that the road is just too dangerous to cross. The fact that both events involved motorcyclists at the same crossing should be regarded as coincidence before placing the blame on whoever. We will know once the police have carried out their investigation. But for now I hope those crossings will be removed and fenced off. I thought that when I saw work starting on it. Come on weymouth council. You got it wrong with the traffic lights, now you got it wrong with these islands. Own up!
Get your facts right ! It's NOT Weymouth council, it's Dorset county council that are in charge of roads ,
[quote][p][bold]yar2007[/bold] wrote: Not blaming anyone. Just merely stating that the road is just too dangerous to cross. The fact that both events involved motorcyclists at the same crossing should be regarded as coincidence before placing the blame on whoever. We will know once the police have carried out their investigation. But for now I hope those crossings will be removed and fenced off. I thought that when I saw work starting on it. Come on weymouth council. You got it wrong with the traffic lights, now you got it wrong with these islands. Own up![/p][/quote]Get your facts right ! It's NOT Weymouth council, it's Dorset county council that are in charge of roads , I'mavoter
  • Score: 9

9:22pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Billy1mate says...

Hippyhooker wrote:
Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
So why am I an 'idiot'?
[quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot[/p][/quote]So why am I an 'idiot'? Billy1mate
  • Score: -9

9:46pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Billy1mate says...

Hippyhooker wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
Billy1mate wrote:
malkie wrote:
yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.
Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.
Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot
Another 3 thumbs down, why is that would those 3 people like to point out where my statement is incorrect? lol
I am NOT an idiot, so that part of you statement is incorrect.
[quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy1mate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkie[/bold] wrote: yar 2007you can't blame Weymouth council for the crossings, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. believe that roads come under the juristiction off DCC highways.[/p][/quote]Probably the same bunch that 'sorted' the roundabouts for the Olympics.[/p][/quote]Well not really this place 2 deaths, roundabout 0 deaths...idiot[/p][/quote]Another 3 thumbs down, why is that would those 3 people like to point out where my statement is incorrect? lol[/p][/quote]I am NOT an idiot, so that part of you statement is incorrect. Billy1mate
  • Score: -10

9:54pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Zummerzet Lad says...

Perhaps The Echo ought to seek statements from DCC on how they are going to prevent further tragedies happening on this section of road.

No Comment is not an option plus what weight will local DCC Councillors that represent this area do to help and what about Mr Drax MP?
Perhaps The Echo ought to seek statements from DCC on how they are going to prevent further tragedies happening on this section of road. No Comment is not an option plus what weight will local DCC Councillors that represent this area do to help and what about Mr Drax MP? Zummerzet Lad
  • Score: 3

10:15pm Sun 27 Jul 14

echo-reader says...

it is such a shame that more people have died at this place
the road isa main road with fast noving traffic n it , so the idiots a dorset county council put three crossings on it..
people who want to walk to town should be made to not be able to cross at all on that road
my thoughts are with the families involved
it is such a shame that more people have died at this place the road isa main road with fast noving traffic n it , so the idiots a dorset county council put three crossings on it.. people who want to walk to town should be made to not be able to cross at all on that road my thoughts are with the families involved echo-reader
  • Score: 0

10:46pm Sun 27 Jul 14

yar2007 says...

What is the point of having a council if they have no say in the roads in Weymouth. Am I wasting my hard earned money in taxes?
What is the point of having a council if they have no say in the roads in Weymouth. Am I wasting my hard earned money in taxes? yar2007
  • Score: -13

10:50pm Sun 27 Jul 14

yar2007 says...

Oh and more lights is not the answer. We're probably the only town in the world with more traffic lights per square mile. Close that crossing. It's safer on the next one up.
Oh and more lights is not the answer. We're probably the only town in the world with more traffic lights per square mile. Close that crossing. It's safer on the next one up. yar2007
  • Score: 5

10:58pm Sun 27 Jul 14

I'mavoter says...

rbdeejay wrote:
How many more deaths at that crossing before the council do something about it? Especially after last time, I feel so sorry for the motorcyclist there's no way they could have reacted in time.
Blood is on your hands W&P council, how about spend our council tax on making Weymouth a safer environment for pedestrians and motorists alike, chances are most of our tax money goes on their wage checks!
R.I.P to both casualties, my thoughts are with the families!
Yet another person shouting off with wrong facts ! It is NOT Weymouth council that have any charge over the highways (roads), it is Dorset county council. Get your facts right before you mouth off !
[quote][p][bold]rbdeejay[/bold] wrote: How many more deaths at that crossing before the council do something about it? Especially after last time, I feel so sorry for the motorcyclist there's no way they could have reacted in time. Blood is on your hands W&P council, how about spend our council tax on making Weymouth a safer environment for pedestrians and motorists alike, chances are most of our tax money goes on their wage checks! R.I.P to both casualties, my thoughts are with the families![/p][/quote]Yet another person shouting off with wrong facts ! It is NOT Weymouth council that have any charge over the highways (roads), it is Dorset county council. Get your facts right before you mouth off ! I'mavoter
  • Score: 10

11:44pm Sun 27 Jul 14

LynM says...

Think this comment page should be closed now as it is turning into a slanging match. At the end of the day, there has been a terrible tragedy and we should think about the families of the people involved
Think this comment page should be closed now as it is turning into a slanging match. At the end of the day, there has been a terrible tragedy and we should think about the families of the people involved LynM
  • Score: 16

3:23am Mon 28 Jul 14

linspring says...

LynM wrote:
Think this comment page should be closed now as it is turning into a slanging match. At the end of the day, there has been a terrible tragedy and we should think about the families of the people involved
Totally agree with LynM. Please close this comment page and let us all show some respect for the dead and their grieving families.
[quote][p][bold]LynM[/bold] wrote: Think this comment page should be closed now as it is turning into a slanging match. At the end of the day, there has been a terrible tragedy and we should think about the families of the people involved[/p][/quote]Totally agree with LynM. Please close this comment page and let us all show some respect for the dead and their grieving families. linspring
  • Score: 5

6:46am Mon 28 Jul 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

norosetintedglasses wrote:
Just waiting for the fatal pedestrian accident at the top of KING STREET. Name the bright spark who decided to remove the railings. I have even seen people in wheel chairs trying to cross there. Remember drivers are watching the traffic lights and other traffic and do not expect to see pedestrians crossing there, especially when there is a subway. But that is another story.
The removal of the railing was undoubtedly for safety reasons. A huge number of people need to cross, and lights should have been put in but that breaks the traffic flow. You have to walk 25m down the road to a crossing or use the underpass which people don't want to use. When you try and tell people what to do generally it goes badly. People have free will. That bright spark as you put it has prevented the tragedy not created one. People used to jump the fence and generally they were kettled in. Bad idea. If only that bright park had been allowed to input on the original decision to create the traffic system in the first place.
The problem is the motorist thinks they are right and come first. They don't. In actual fact there is absolutely no need for traffic to even use the seafront. The problem is that use has grown and grown and facility has not. There simply isn't the capacity for heavy car use through the seafront to Preston. It's a road built for about at best half the cars it gets. Greenhill is a lane that's getting major road use. What's needed is a connection to the town dump, and onto the beach road via NewLook roundabout, completely removing the need for the road use on the seafront.
[quote][p][bold]norosetintedglasses[/bold] wrote: Just waiting for the fatal pedestrian accident at the top of KING STREET. Name the bright spark who decided to remove the railings. I have even seen people in wheel chairs trying to cross there. Remember drivers are watching the traffic lights and other traffic and do not expect to see pedestrians crossing there, especially when there is a subway. But that is another story.[/p][/quote]The removal of the railing was undoubtedly for safety reasons. A huge number of people need to cross, and lights should have been put in but that breaks the traffic flow. You have to walk 25m down the road to a crossing or use the underpass which people don't want to use. When you try and tell people what to do generally it goes badly. People have free will. That bright spark as you put it has prevented the tragedy not created one. People used to jump the fence and generally they were kettled in. Bad idea. If only that bright park had been allowed to input on the original decision to create the traffic system in the first place. The problem is the motorist thinks they are right and come first. They don't. In actual fact there is absolutely no need for traffic to even use the seafront. The problem is that use has grown and grown and facility has not. There simply isn't the capacity for heavy car use through the seafront to Preston. It's a road built for about at best half the cars it gets. Greenhill is a lane that's getting major road use. What's needed is a connection to the town dump, and onto the beach road via NewLook roundabout, completely removing the need for the road use on the seafront. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 2

6:56am Mon 28 Jul 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

shellangel wrote:
I'm sure it said above "please leave condolences below" not have a row. Isn't it sad enough that people have died, their family will most probably read all this and think that rows or bickering has occurred from this........ R.I.P to both people and thoughts are with both families x
People should have the right to debate what is clearly a problem that's resulted In a tragedy. I don't think there should be any loss of life on the roads. It's people's insistence they get what they want that ends in the loss of life, usually car drivers insisting on driving too fast but often enough pedestrians that will not accept having to walk a few meters to use a crossing. As residents of the area between abbots bury road and dorchester road cannot cross it seems obvious a crossing should have been put in place. It's a town not a motorcar road.
[quote][p][bold]shellangel[/bold] wrote: I'm sure it said above "please leave condolences below" not have a row. Isn't it sad enough that people have died, their family will most probably read all this and think that rows or bickering has occurred from this........ R.I.P to both people and thoughts are with both families x[/p][/quote]People should have the right to debate what is clearly a problem that's resulted In a tragedy. I don't think there should be any loss of life on the roads. It's people's insistence they get what they want that ends in the loss of life, usually car drivers insisting on driving too fast but often enough pedestrians that will not accept having to walk a few meters to use a crossing. As residents of the area between abbots bury road and dorchester road cannot cross it seems obvious a crossing should have been put in place. It's a town not a motorcar road. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 7

7:00am Mon 28 Jul 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

linspring wrote:
LynM wrote:
Think this comment page should be closed now as it is turning into a slanging match. At the end of the day, there has been a terrible tragedy and we should think about the families of the people involved
Totally agree with LynM. Please close this comment page and let us all show some respect for the dead and their grieving families.
I'm sure the grieving families would have rather seen the tragedy avoided and that will only happen if people are allowed to discuss the matter and make an informed choice as to what should be done and who is best suited to do that. It's fairly obvious that we are living with a traffic system that was put in place for the Olympics and now that capacity need had gone people should come first and not getting from a to b in a car perhaps.
[quote][p][bold]linspring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LynM[/bold] wrote: Think this comment page should be closed now as it is turning into a slanging match. At the end of the day, there has been a terrible tragedy and we should think about the families of the people involved[/p][/quote]Totally agree with LynM. Please close this comment page and let us all show some respect for the dead and their grieving families.[/p][/quote]I'm sure the grieving families would have rather seen the tragedy avoided and that will only happen if people are allowed to discuss the matter and make an informed choice as to what should be done and who is best suited to do that. It's fairly obvious that we are living with a traffic system that was put in place for the Olympics and now that capacity need had gone people should come first and not getting from a to b in a car perhaps. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 7

7:12am Mon 28 Jul 14

penmick says...

rest in peace, my sympathy to their families and the poor dog. Please save the debate and the rights and wrongs of this road to the inquest when the evidence is known. I feel some of the comments are a touch insensitive to the families who are probably not bothered about the crossing and more about their deep sense of loss. I would hate for them to read all of this. This is a tragedy and my thoughts are with them
rest in peace, my sympathy to their families and the poor dog. Please save the debate and the rights and wrongs of this road to the inquest when the evidence is known. I feel some of the comments are a touch insensitive to the families who are probably not bothered about the crossing and more about their deep sense of loss. I would hate for them to read all of this. This is a tragedy and my thoughts are with them penmick
  • Score: 14

9:40am Mon 28 Jul 14

Under35andout says...

funny hippy troll thinks a written off taxi and a family car completly written off is minor , lewi died cause of the traffic lights on that junction you idiot , i can see the crossing from my window i seen and heard 5 major crashes since its been installed i might set up a camera soon , stupid weymouth idiot just like the usual you get round here makes me laugh dont speak till you know stupid fool
funny hippy troll thinks a written off taxi and a family car completly written off is minor , lewi died cause of the traffic lights on that junction you idiot , i can see the crossing from my window i seen and heard 5 major crashes since its been installed i might set up a camera soon , stupid weymouth idiot just like the usual you get round here makes me laugh dont speak till you know stupid fool Under35andout
  • Score: -8

11:56am Mon 28 Jul 14

PortlandYoof says...

After having rode with Max both on (and off) road numerous times and having the pleasure of playing alongside him for a year in a pool team with other friends, I cannot stress how much of a talented, awesome guy he was.

I'll really miss you mate - Life is a complete b***ch sometimes, but I'm sure you'll be up there keeping an eye over the massive group of friends you left behind.

RIP buddy :-(
After having rode with Max both on (and off) road numerous times and having the pleasure of playing alongside him for a year in a pool team with other friends, I cannot stress how much of a talented, awesome guy he was. I'll really miss you mate - Life is a complete b***ch sometimes, but I'm sure you'll be up there keeping an eye over the massive group of friends you left behind. RIP buddy :-( PortlandYoof
  • Score: 14

12:54pm Mon 28 Jul 14

rbdeejay says...

I'mavoter wrote:
rbdeejay wrote:
How many more deaths at that crossing before the council do something about it? Especially after last time, I feel so sorry for the motorcyclist there's no way they could have reacted in time.
Blood is on your hands W&P council, how about spend our council tax on making Weymouth a safer environment for pedestrians and motorists alike, chances are most of our tax money goes on their wage checks!
R.I.P to both casualties, my thoughts are with the families!
Yet another person shouting off with wrong facts ! It is NOT Weymouth council that have any charge over the highways (roads), it is Dorset county council. Get your facts right before you mouth off !
Guessing you work for w&p council then, Ok my bad Dorset council then, my point is a bridge where the crossing is would be much safer. Anything that will prevent such a tragic accident from happening again.
[quote][p][bold]I'mavoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rbdeejay[/bold] wrote: How many more deaths at that crossing before the council do something about it? Especially after last time, I feel so sorry for the motorcyclist there's no way they could have reacted in time. Blood is on your hands W&P council, how about spend our council tax on making Weymouth a safer environment for pedestrians and motorists alike, chances are most of our tax money goes on their wage checks! R.I.P to both casualties, my thoughts are with the families![/p][/quote]Yet another person shouting off with wrong facts ! It is NOT Weymouth council that have any charge over the highways (roads), it is Dorset county council. Get your facts right before you mouth off ![/p][/quote]Guessing you work for w&p council then, Ok my bad Dorset council then, my point is a bridge where the crossing is would be much safer. Anything that will prevent such a tragic accident from happening again. rbdeejay
  • Score: -2

2:09pm Mon 28 Jul 14

katster24 says...

whatever66 wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
1Kimberlin wrote:
Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP
Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,
So agree with you Kimberly ....... hippyhooker exactly 50 mph means do not exceed this limit this is a link road designed to keep traffic out of town's and away from general population there have been no accidents on any other parts linked to it as far as I can remember people living on the Radipole estate dont cross the road to the swannery from the morrisons end along the link road as there is no access to get to the road. There is a pavement linking the rest with lights.
Shock, bikers getting slatted again!!! Always the biker that gets the blame!!! I am a biker and a car driver. I'm sick of peeps slagging bikers off. Weather your a biker or not its down to the individual who is riding or driving . What you all need to remember is 2 people and a dog lost their lives!!! And the families are devastated. As for jumping on the " Lets blame the bikers band wagon" have a bit of respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!! My thought go out to the family at this time!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]whatever66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP[/p][/quote]Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,[/p][/quote]So agree with you Kimberly ....... hippyhooker exactly 50 mph means do not exceed this limit this is a link road designed to keep traffic out of town's and away from general population there have been no accidents on any other parts linked to it as far as I can remember people living on the Radipole estate dont cross the road to the swannery from the morrisons end along the link road as there is no access to get to the road. There is a pavement linking the rest with lights.[/p][/quote]Shock, bikers getting slatted again!!! Always the biker that gets the blame!!! I am a biker and a car driver. I'm sick of peeps slagging bikers off. Weather your a biker or not its down to the individual who is riding or driving . What you all need to remember is 2 people and a dog lost their lives!!! And the families are devastated. As for jumping on the " Lets blame the bikers band wagon" have a bit of respect!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! My thought go out to the family at this time!!!!!!!!! katster24
  • Score: -3

4:09pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Daiz says...

katster24 wrote:
whatever66 wrote:
Hippyhooker wrote:
1Kimberlin wrote:
Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP
Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,
So agree with you Kimberly ....... hippyhooker exactly 50 mph means do not exceed this limit this is a link road designed to keep traffic out of town's and away from general population there have been no accidents on any other parts linked to it as far as I can remember people living on the Radipole estate dont cross the road to the swannery from the morrisons end along the link road as there is no access to get to the road. There is a pavement linking the rest with lights.
Shock, bikers getting slatted again!!! Always the biker that gets the blame!!! I am a biker and a car driver. I'm sick of peeps slagging bikers off. Weather your a biker or not its down to the individual who is riding or driving . What you all need to remember is 2 people and a dog lost their lives!!! And the families are devastated. As for jumping on the " Lets blame the bikers band wagon" have a bit of respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!! My thought go out to the family at this time!!!!!!!!!
think i'm right ' there are 2 crossing islands , if thats what you call them , along this stretch , 1 by the water sewerage place and the other just further up towards Chafeys roundabout ? i am aware that visibility is not so much an issue on the first one ( i have crossed here myself a couple of times this year and felt safe ) I have not used the other one so cannot comment . would the pedestrian have used this crossing point ? i have read some of the comments on here but not all as yet so it probably does say somewhere where exactly the lady did cross '

My heartfelt condolences to both families x x
[quote][p][bold]katster24[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatever66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippyhooker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1Kimberlin[/bold] wrote: Why is it always the motorist or bike rider that gets the dirty end of the stick when this happen? How many drivers /riders have witnessed pedestrians running across the road 10 feet from a safe place to cross? People will cross the roads where they want,no matter how busy or unsafe it is to do so,If your traveling from Weymouth to Southhill that area concerned is hidden by a slight bend, however coming in the opposite direction there is a clear view. The tragic deaths in 2012 were as said the first in 20 years, installing those islands have imo made things worse, if you have never driven/ ridden many people have no idea of actual speed and think "I can make it " then BANG, they thought wrong. As A point of interest the Causeway between Weymouth & Portland is 60 mph with good visibility and islands and far more people cross this road especially this time of the year. Can anyone inform me when the last Pedestrian was fatally injured crossing this road. Surely it is not the speed of the road but the visibility here. My solution would be to block the 'Cut Through Path' and fence the roadside off. Then install a new crossing at the Southill end of the road, encouraging them to use these safer places to cross use this or the Westham Bridge Subway. All this being said I send my family & My condolences to those involved in this tragedy RIP[/p][/quote]Because as a motorist or biker you should be travelling at a suitable speed to avoid accidents like this, especially near central reservation crossing places. Just because the road has a 50mph limit, it is just that a limit, not a required speed,[/p][/quote]So agree with you Kimberly ....... hippyhooker exactly 50 mph means do not exceed this limit this is a link road designed to keep traffic out of town's and away from general population there have been no accidents on any other parts linked to it as far as I can remember people living on the Radipole estate dont cross the road to the swannery from the morrisons end along the link road as there is no access to get to the road. There is a pavement linking the rest with lights.[/p][/quote]Shock, bikers getting slatted again!!! Always the biker that gets the blame!!! I am a biker and a car driver. I'm sick of peeps slagging bikers off. Weather your a biker or not its down to the individual who is riding or driving . What you all need to remember is 2 people and a dog lost their lives!!! And the families are devastated. As for jumping on the " Lets blame the bikers band wagon" have a bit of respect!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! My thought go out to the family at this time!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]think i'm right ' there are 2 crossing islands , if thats what you call them , along this stretch , 1 by the water sewerage place and the other just further up towards Chafeys roundabout ? i am aware that visibility is not so much an issue on the first one ( i have crossed here myself a couple of times this year and felt safe ) I have not used the other one so cannot comment . would the pedestrian have used this crossing point ? i have read some of the comments on here but not all as yet so it probably does say somewhere where exactly the lady did cross ' My heartfelt condolences to both families x x Daiz
  • Score: 0

5:07pm Mon 28 Jul 14

hellojohn says...

Blame the victim as usual.
How dare people attempt to cross a road?
And of course it's nothing to do with drivers is it?
They're always attentive, and drive safely, within the speed limit.

Take responisibility for your actions, and don't blame the council, highways agency etc, etc. for your ineptitude.

My condolences to all those involved in this terrible incident.
Blame the victim as usual. How dare people attempt to cross a road? And of course it's nothing to do with drivers is it? They're always attentive, and drive safely, within the speed limit. Take responisibility for your actions, and don't blame the council, highways agency etc, etc. for your ineptitude. My condolences to all those involved in this terrible incident. hellojohn
  • Score: -5

9:22pm Mon 28 Jul 14

CombFilter says...

As others have said. 50 m.p.h. vehicles and pedestrians do not mix. If there is a need to keep a 50 m.p.h. limit on this road then you must isolate it from people i.e. using barriers and bridges. If it's felt that bridges and barriers are not viable, then the speed limit must be reduced to 30 m.p.h.

In my opinion the poorly thought out response to the first incident at this location is a contributory factor to the second incident
As others have said. 50 m.p.h. vehicles and pedestrians do not mix. If there is a need to keep a 50 m.p.h. limit on this road then you must isolate it from people i.e. using barriers and bridges. If it's felt that bridges and barriers are not viable, then the speed limit must be reduced to 30 m.p.h. In my opinion the poorly thought out response to the first incident at this location is a contributory factor to the second incident CombFilter
  • Score: 2

12:40am Tue 29 Jul 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

I'm usually doing 40-50 mph when North of Westham roundabout on my cruiser, and it never crosses my mind that someone might suddenly appear in the road in front of me - my focus is totally on the idiot in his car behind me, and wondering how much closer he might come !! And the number of people who scramble or vault over the railings by the subway at Westham Bridge - WELL !! They are usually YIMs (Young Idiot Males), but I've seen girls - who OUGHT to have more sense - doing the same thing, too !! Even if 15' high chainlink fencing were to be installed, some sarmtrase YIM would vandalise it with boltcutters to make a way through - ANYTHING but do what you're supposed to do, and walk where you're supposed to walk. Perhaps indiscipline and unruliness are national characteristics ??
I'm usually doing 40-50 mph when North of Westham roundabout on my cruiser, and it never crosses my mind that someone might suddenly appear in the road in front of me - my focus is totally on the idiot in his car behind me, and wondering how much closer he might come !! And the number of people who scramble or vault over the railings by the subway at Westham Bridge - WELL !! They are usually YIMs (Young Idiot Males), but I've seen girls - who OUGHT to have more sense - doing the same thing, too !! Even if 15' high chainlink fencing were to be installed, some sarmtrase YIM would vandalise it with boltcutters to make a way through - ANYTHING but do what you're supposed to do, and walk where you're supposed to walk. Perhaps indiscipline and unruliness are national characteristics ?? Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 2

8:07am Sat 2 Aug 14

CombFilter says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
I'm usually doing 40-50 mph when North of Westham roundabout on my cruiser, and it never crosses my mind that someone might suddenly appear in the road in front of me - my focus is totally on the idiot in his car behind me, and wondering how much closer he might come !! And the number of people who scramble or vault over the railings by the subway at Westham Bridge - WELL !! They are usually YIMs (Young Idiot Males), but I've seen girls - who OUGHT to have more sense - doing the same thing, too !! Even if 15' high chainlink fencing were to be installed, some sarmtrase YIM would vandalise it with boltcutters to make a way through - ANYTHING but do what you're supposed to do, and walk where you're supposed to walk. Perhaps indiscipline and unruliness are national characteristics ??
Then the only solution is to lower the speed limit. Sorted!
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: I'm usually doing 40-50 mph when North of Westham roundabout on my cruiser, and it never crosses my mind that someone might suddenly appear in the road in front of me - my focus is totally on the idiot in his car behind me, and wondering how much closer he might come !! And the number of people who scramble or vault over the railings by the subway at Westham Bridge - WELL !! They are usually YIMs (Young Idiot Males), but I've seen girls - who OUGHT to have more sense - doing the same thing, too !! Even if 15' high chainlink fencing were to be installed, some sarmtrase YIM would vandalise it with boltcutters to make a way through - ANYTHING but do what you're supposed to do, and walk where you're supposed to walk. Perhaps indiscipline and unruliness are national characteristics ??[/p][/quote]Then the only solution is to lower the speed limit. Sorted! CombFilter
  • Score: 3

8:33am Sat 2 Aug 14

ksmain says...

CombFilter wrote:
Harpya Orkinus wrote:
I'm usually doing 40-50 mph when North of Westham roundabout on my cruiser, and it never crosses my mind that someone might suddenly appear in the road in front of me - my focus is totally on the idiot in his car behind me, and wondering how much closer he might come !! And the number of people who scramble or vault over the railings by the subway at Westham Bridge - WELL !! They are usually YIMs (Young Idiot Males), but I've seen girls - who OUGHT to have more sense - doing the same thing, too !! Even if 15' high chainlink fencing were to be installed, some sarmtrase YIM would vandalise it with boltcutters to make a way through - ANYTHING but do what you're supposed to do, and walk where you're supposed to walk. Perhaps indiscipline and unruliness are national characteristics ??
Then the only solution is to lower the speed limit. Sorted!
No it isn't as these idiots will still exist anyway.

The road was built as a relief road - not as a main town highway. The only solution is to completely block off the pathways and remove the crossings. The sensible people will then use the existing other points of crossing - the idiots will continue to be idiots, but then you can never legislate for them anyway. After all the council have spent £000s putting in perfectly good cycle routes and yet still some completely ignore their existence and continue to cycle down the relief road - some at night with no lights on.
[quote][p][bold]CombFilter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: I'm usually doing 40-50 mph when North of Westham roundabout on my cruiser, and it never crosses my mind that someone might suddenly appear in the road in front of me - my focus is totally on the idiot in his car behind me, and wondering how much closer he might come !! And the number of people who scramble or vault over the railings by the subway at Westham Bridge - WELL !! They are usually YIMs (Young Idiot Males), but I've seen girls - who OUGHT to have more sense - doing the same thing, too !! Even if 15' high chainlink fencing were to be installed, some sarmtrase YIM would vandalise it with boltcutters to make a way through - ANYTHING but do what you're supposed to do, and walk where you're supposed to walk. Perhaps indiscipline and unruliness are national characteristics ??[/p][/quote]Then the only solution is to lower the speed limit. Sorted![/p][/quote]No it isn't as these idiots will still exist anyway. The road was built as a relief road - not as a main town highway. The only solution is to completely block off the pathways and remove the crossings. The sensible people will then use the existing other points of crossing - the idiots will continue to be idiots, but then you can never legislate for them anyway. After all the council have spent £000s putting in perfectly good cycle routes and yet still some completely ignore their existence and continue to cycle down the relief road - some at night with no lights on. ksmain
  • Score: -2

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