Tributes paid after two die in collision on the Weymouth Way

Tributes paid after two die in Weymouth crash

TRAGIC: Max Fryman

SEALED OFF: The helicopter on the Weymouth Way

CROSSING CAMPAIGNERS: From left, Cllr David Harris, David Hanger, Bob Irwin and Ian White who fought for better road safety.

SAFETY CALL: Cllr Kate Wheller

TRAGEDY: Mark Tewkesbury chairman of the planning and traffic at Weymouth and Portland Borough Council

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TWO people were killed in a tragic accident on one of Weymouth’s busiest roads.

A 23-year-old motorcyclist from Weymouth, named locally as Max Fryman and a 63-year-old female pedestrian, also from Weymouth, were involved in a collsion shortly after 5pm on Saturday.

Both died at the scene.

The pedestrian’s dog was also killed.

A spokesman for Dorset Police said the victims' next of kin have been informed and are being supported by police family liason officers.

Residents and local figureheads have spoken of their shock and sadness at the incident, which happened close to the spot tragic five-year-old Lily-Mae Jeffries was struck in 2012 on the A354 Weymouth Way.

Friends of Max Fryman have left heartwarming tributes to the former Wey Valley School student.

The road was closed from Chafeys roundabout to Swannery Bridge for around five hours as emergency services worked.

It is believed the pedestrian was crossing the road to get to Goldcroft Road when the fatal incident occurred.

Police were on the scene within minutes and cordoned off the area, diverting traffic via Goldcroft Road.

Motorists were told to expect heavy tailbacks whilst the roadblock remained in place.

The Dorset and Somerset Air Ambulance was also called and landed at around 5.30pm, but it was not needed.

Police are appealing for witnesses to come forward.

A police spokesman said: “Immediately prior to the collision a large, bronze-coloured Honda motorcycle was seen to travel from Westwey Road junction towards Chafeys Roundabout. During this journey the motorcycle collided with a female pedestrian and a dog, causing fatal injuries to all three.

“Any witnesses to the riding of the motorcycle or the movements of the pedestrian who have not already spoken to police are asked to contact PC Andy Loveless of the Weymouth Traffic Department by calling 101."

Officers thanked the public for their patience while investigators worked.

HEARTFELT MESSAGES LEFT TO TRAGIC BIKER

POIGNANT tributes have been left to biker Max Fryman on social media.

Friends changed their profile pictures to Max and many have left heartfelt messages.

One, James Braithwaite, wrote: ‘Rest in peace Max Fryman still trying to believe this has happened to such a nice guy, you will be well missed but never forgotten for all the good times out on the bikes and up the jumps. So take it easy up there and keep on the wheelies. My thoughts and condolences are with the family. Ride on buddy.’ Stacey Harrison said: ‘My thoughts go out to both families. Max you are now gone far far too early RIP mate gone but not forgotten. Xx’ Tom Robson said: ‘RIP mate will be sadly missed.’ Residents have expressed their condolences to the families of both victims.

On Facebook Karen Loader said: “Very sad, our thoughts are with the families.”

Judith Garrett said: “God bless them and their poor families.”

Daz Severn said: “Terrible news. My heart goes out to their friends and family at this time. God bless.”

Ella-Louise Jones posted: “(It’s) so sad. Thoughts and prayers to families.”

Diane Dallison said: “Another tragedy, my heart goes out to all concerned.”

Shirley Martin said simply: “So tragic.”

Tania Jones commented: “It’s just so tragic that it has claimed two lives. RIP to those people and thinking of the families at this very sad time.”

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SADNESS AMID APPEALS FOR BETTER SAFETY ON THE WEYMOUTH WAY

THE ACCIDENT has triggered calls for more safety measures along the 50mph stretch of road.

Weymouth and Portland Borough mayor Kate Wheller has vowed that she will be looking at ways to make the road safer.

She said: “It is particularly sad that the incident has happened when steps were taken to remove the hazard from there and again we have had another tragic accident.

“I feel very sorry for the families involved and send my condolences to them and I will be speaking to the county highways team to see exactly what happened, and to see if there is anything we can possibly do to make it safer.

“It’s always a hazard when you have vehicles and pedestrians together, you can’t attribute blame to either when there is an accident, you have to find some way to make it safer for both pedestrians and motorists to share the same space.”

Before Lily-Mae Jeffries and her family were struck in March, 2012, a campaign was set up for a safe crossing place amid fears that someone would be killed.

Since then, three crossing islands have been installed on Weymouth Way between Chafeys roundabout and Westham Crossroads and a crossing facility – a toucan crossing – has been built to the north of the roundabout following consultation with residents.

Funding was obtained from the Local Sustainable Transport Fund, the Department for Transport Cycle Safety Fund and Dorset County Council’s Local Transport Fund.

But local feeling since Saturday’s tragedy is that more needs to be done to prevent any more deaths.

Derek Hanger has been campaigning for 10 years to make the roads safer in the area, and helped obtain more than 1,000 signatures for a petition about the safety of the Weymouth Way in 2011.

He said: “None of these roads are safe in my eyes. The whole set up is wrong.

“There should be a maximum speed limit of 30mph on all of the roads and there should be cameras to enforce it.

“If we could get the traffic slowed down, that would be adequate in keeping the roads safer. They have built all these new roads and put motorway-like speeds on them.

“There is no incentive for people to drive safely down there. The speed limit needs to be lowered and it needs to be enforced.”

Hundreds of people have taken to social media to express their views, with many saying they would like to see a footbridge installed and others questioning the speed limit of the road.

Stephen Bithell said: “Very, very sad. The road was put across a public footpath. Only after a tragedy have authorities put a crossing in. Should have put in a bridge or subway when they built this race track, but lives are cheaper.”

Echo website user Hrw-Amen commented: ‘It is so sad to see people killed regardless of if they are pedestrians, drivers or riders.

“It does seem to me to be a very dangerous spot, as a driver (and rider).

“Approaching it you can never be sure if there is anyone about to cross until you are right on top of them when it is far too late to do anything about it if they step off the curb.’ Darren Churchill said: “So sad, that road needs to be sorted out, it’s like a race track; explain that to the families who have just lost people tonight, thoughts with the families and friends.”

Mandy Stubbs said: “Almost the same place as before.

“The road needs a bridge, please no more traffic lights. Very sad.”

Jemma Massey said: “More stars shining in the sky at night thanks to our poor Dorset roads.”

Sheila Hunn said simply: “This road is so very dangerous.”

IT'S AN 'ABSOLUTE TRAGEDY'

MARK Tewkesbury, chairman of the planning and traffic chairman at Weymouth and Portland Borough Council, said: “It is an absolute tragedy and I’m devastated to hear that another two lives in Dorset have been lost on Weymouth roads.

“A lot of work has been put into the cycle lane and the changes they have made there have been made since the little girl died at the same spot.

“If there are any measures we can do to make the road safer we will look into them.

“My thoughts go out to all of the families who have suffered from the losses of the two people involved.”

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7:16am Mon 28 Jul 14

penmick says...

rest in peace, its not time to debate the safety of the road, lets remember the victims and think of their families and 2 lives and a dog has been lost on our roads, its a tragedy
rest in peace, its not time to debate the safety of the road, lets remember the victims and think of their families and 2 lives and a dog has been lost on our roads, its a tragedy penmick
  • Score: 12

7:55am Mon 28 Jul 14

MattWey77 says...

penmick wrote:
rest in peace, its not time to debate the safety of the road, lets remember the victims and think of their families and 2 lives and a dog has been lost on our roads, its a tragedy
Indeed another sad loss for everyone involved/touched by incident. As you say, not a time to discuss the poor decisions made by road designs, road users & ‘community safety groups’.
[quote][p][bold]penmick[/bold] wrote: rest in peace, its not time to debate the safety of the road, lets remember the victims and think of their families and 2 lives and a dog has been lost on our roads, its a tragedy[/p][/quote]Indeed another sad loss for everyone involved/touched by incident. As you say, not a time to discuss the poor decisions made by road designs, road users & ‘community safety groups’. MattWey77
  • Score: 6

8:13am Mon 28 Jul 14

weymouthresident says...

Why the hell is Mark Tewkesbury Chairman of these committees? His background has nothing to do with traffic. No wonder our council is in such a mess. Get some experts in to chair the different committees so that sensible decisions can be made - not just for roads and traffic but for everything.
Why the hell is Mark Tewkesbury Chairman of these committees? His background has nothing to do with traffic. No wonder our council is in such a mess. Get some experts in to chair the different committees so that sensible decisions can be made - not just for roads and traffic but for everything. weymouthresident
  • Score: -25

10:02am Mon 28 Jul 14

Zummerzet Lad says...

Fence off the fatal crossing point even with temporary wire ones like entrance to building sites NOW! Then install permanent fencing later.

After that look at all aspects of making things safer for all on this stretch of road.
Fence off the fatal crossing point even with temporary wire ones like entrance to building sites NOW! Then install permanent fencing later. After that look at all aspects of making things safer for all on this stretch of road. Zummerzet Lad
  • Score: 8

10:22am Mon 28 Jul 14

george444 says...

These posts are unbelievably disrespectful to the driver. Nothing has been confirmed as to 'who is to blame' etc, and using the poor kid's Facebook page to ridicule him is disgusting. He was merely warning other drivers of the speed cameras and the other posts saying 'watch out Weymouth' don't suggest in any way that he was speeding either in this incident or any others!! People are jumping to conclusions when they have no facts whatsoever.
In relation to the road itself, the islands have been put in on a 50mph road. It is at a pedestrian's discretion as to whether to use the islands or not! If they are worried about safety, they should use the subway at Westham traffic lights & go down Newstead/Goldcroft, or use the new pedestrian crossing down at chafeys.
These posts are unbelievably disrespectful to the driver. Nothing has been confirmed as to 'who is to blame' etc, and using the poor kid's Facebook page to ridicule him is disgusting. He was merely warning other drivers of the speed cameras and the other posts saying 'watch out Weymouth' don't suggest in any way that he was speeding either in this incident or any others!! People are jumping to conclusions when they have no facts whatsoever. In relation to the road itself, the islands have been put in on a 50mph road. It is at a pedestrian's discretion as to whether to use the islands or not! If they are worried about safety, they should use the subway at Westham traffic lights & go down Newstead/Goldcroft, or use the new pedestrian crossing down at chafeys. george444
  • Score: 10

10:58am Mon 28 Jul 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

MattWey77 wrote:
penmick wrote:
rest in peace, its not time to debate the safety of the road, lets remember the victims and think of their families and 2 lives and a dog has been lost on our roads, its a tragedy
Indeed another sad loss for everyone involved/touched by incident. As you say, not a time to discuss the poor decisions made by road designs, road users & ‘community safety groups’.
I disagree - would they ( the two people involved ) not want their deaths to mean something rather than being just another statistic? How many people have got to die to get something done? The time to put pressure on those that can make a difference is when something has happened - not three months down the line...
[quote][p][bold]MattWey77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]penmick[/bold] wrote: rest in peace, its not time to debate the safety of the road, lets remember the victims and think of their families and 2 lives and a dog has been lost on our roads, its a tragedy[/p][/quote]Indeed another sad loss for everyone involved/touched by incident. As you say, not a time to discuss the poor decisions made by road designs, road users & ‘community safety groups’.[/p][/quote]I disagree - would they ( the two people involved ) not want their deaths to mean something rather than being just another statistic? How many people have got to die to get something done? The time to put pressure on those that can make a difference is when something has happened - not three months down the line... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 8

11:08am Mon 28 Jul 14

terra firma says...

Put a bridge and you'll doubtless have some nutters complaining it affects the flight path of the swans.

As an experienced motorist who lived in the area for many years, and still visits frequently, I have to admit that even when obeying the speed limit, the island in question recently caught me by surprise when travelling towards Chaffey's. If you are going to have a crossing it needs lights
Put a bridge and you'll doubtless have some nutters complaining it affects the flight path of the swans. As an experienced motorist who lived in the area for many years, and still visits frequently, I have to admit that even when obeying the speed limit, the island in question recently caught me by surprise when travelling towards Chaffey's. If you are going to have a crossing it needs lights terra firma
  • Score: 0

11:47am Mon 28 Jul 14

shy talk says...

Zummerzet Lad wrote:
Fence off the fatal crossing point even with temporary wire ones like entrance to building sites NOW! Then install permanent fencing later.

After that look at all aspects of making things safer for all on this stretch of road.
Hit the nail right on the head. Take note Mark Tewkesbury and Mayor Kate Wheller and do not waste time looking into it.
[quote][p][bold]Zummerzet Lad[/bold] wrote: Fence off the fatal crossing point even with temporary wire ones like entrance to building sites NOW! Then install permanent fencing later. After that look at all aspects of making things safer for all on this stretch of road.[/p][/quote]Hit the nail right on the head. Take note Mark Tewkesbury and Mayor Kate Wheller and do not waste time looking into it. shy talk
  • Score: 2

12:23pm Mon 28 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

george444 wrote:
These posts are unbelievably disrespectful to the driver. Nothing has been confirmed as to 'who is to blame' etc, and using the poor kid's Facebook page to ridicule him is disgusting. He was merely warning other drivers of the speed cameras and the other posts saying 'watch out Weymouth' don't suggest in any way that he was speeding either in this incident or any others!! People are jumping to conclusions when they have no facts whatsoever.
In relation to the road itself, the islands have been put in on a 50mph road. It is at a pedestrian's discretion as to whether to use the islands or not! If they are worried about safety, they should use the subway at Westham traffic lights & go down Newstead/Goldcroft, or use the new pedestrian crossing down at chafeys.
So does the warning of where police camera's are now make you a speeder ?????? So all the members of staff at Wessex FM must speed fanatic's then... when they inform us locals of the Weymouth Photographic Society.... Giving the above comment thumbs down for sticking up for a lad who has lost his life makes you all despicable armchair Judge Jefferies. Who would like to cross the new road also a 50 linking us to Dorchester any offer's I expect not.... these roads were put in as Ring Roads and the only place it does not seem to work is in Weymouth why because of the Lack of proper places to cross ....IE a bridge to get from one side to the other. If the lady was hit by a car instead of a Bike would you automatically accuse them of speeding if she was hit by a lady in her 30's with 3 kids in the back no you wouldn't it would be a tragic accident. Laying the blame with this young Lad is despicable before all the facts are known. Remember this the Motorcyclist you all went to town on last time this happened was innocent of all blame did you all publically apologise for your nasty vile comments as I never read any apologies to him from any of you. Think carefully as basically its called SLANDER.
[quote][p][bold]george444[/bold] wrote: These posts are unbelievably disrespectful to the driver. Nothing has been confirmed as to 'who is to blame' etc, and using the poor kid's Facebook page to ridicule him is disgusting. He was merely warning other drivers of the speed cameras and the other posts saying 'watch out Weymouth' don't suggest in any way that he was speeding either in this incident or any others!! People are jumping to conclusions when they have no facts whatsoever. In relation to the road itself, the islands have been put in on a 50mph road. It is at a pedestrian's discretion as to whether to use the islands or not! If they are worried about safety, they should use the subway at Westham traffic lights & go down Newstead/Goldcroft, or use the new pedestrian crossing down at chafeys.[/p][/quote]So does the warning of where police camera's are now make you a speeder ?????? So all the members of staff at Wessex FM must speed fanatic's then... when they inform us locals of the Weymouth Photographic Society.... Giving the above comment thumbs down for sticking up for a lad who has lost his life makes you all despicable armchair Judge Jefferies. Who would like to cross the new road also a 50 linking us to Dorchester any offer's I expect not.... these roads were put in as Ring Roads and the only place it does not seem to work is in Weymouth why because of the Lack of proper places to cross ....IE a bridge to get from one side to the other. If the lady was hit by a car instead of a Bike would you automatically accuse them of speeding if she was hit by a lady in her 30's with 3 kids in the back no you wouldn't it would be a tragic accident. Laying the blame with this young Lad is despicable before all the facts are known. Remember this the Motorcyclist you all went to town on last time this happened was innocent of all blame did you all publically apologise for your nasty vile comments as I never read any apologies to him from any of you. Think carefully as basically its called SLANDER. whatever66
  • Score: 12

12:52pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Witch Hazel says...

I'm very sad to read of the tragic loss of lives in Weymouth on Saturday and felt I had to write a word or two of condolence.
Although I do not know this young lad and lady, my thoughts go out to both their families and friends at such a very sad time for everyone. May they RIP.

Again, I do not know the area but feel people should keep their disrespectable comments to themselves.... please have a little sympathy for all concerned... I'm sure it would go a long way.
I'm very sad to read of the tragic loss of lives in Weymouth on Saturday and felt I had to write a word or two of condolence. Although I do not know this young lad and lady, my thoughts go out to both their families and friends at such a very sad time for everyone. May they RIP. Again, I do not know the area but feel people should keep their disrespectable comments to themselves.... please have a little sympathy for all concerned... I'm sure it would go a long way. Witch Hazel
  • Score: 4

1:03pm Mon 28 Jul 14

scubadude says...

RIP, so sad.

Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass.
Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help...
RIP, so sad. Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass. Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help... scubadude
  • Score: 9

1:17pm Mon 28 Jul 14

LynM says...

scubadude wrote:
RIP, so sad.

Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass.
Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help...
That part of the road is a link road - it can't be classed as a bypass as there are too many houses there so it doesn't 'bypass' anything. There should be a 30mph speed limit until after the the pelican crossing past the Chafey's roundabout.
[quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: RIP, so sad. Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass. Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help...[/p][/quote]That part of the road is a link road - it can't be classed as a bypass as there are too many houses there so it doesn't 'bypass' anything. There should be a 30mph speed limit until after the the pelican crossing past the Chafey's roundabout. LynM
  • Score: -2

1:27pm Mon 28 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

LynM wrote:
scubadude wrote:
RIP, so sad.

Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass.
Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help...
That part of the road is a link road - it can't be classed as a bypass as there are too many houses there so it doesn't 'bypass' anything. There should be a 30mph speed limit until after the the pelican crossing past the Chafey's roundabout.
If you look at maps all over the country they are all link, bypass's and ring roads etc are all 50mph blocking the access's is a cheaper solution than building a bridge.... weird how the speed of this road has only just became a problem.. This road has always been a 50mph..... but there again there was no footpaths accessing it.
[quote][p][bold]LynM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: RIP, so sad. Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass. Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help...[/p][/quote]That part of the road is a link road - it can't be classed as a bypass as there are too many houses there so it doesn't 'bypass' anything. There should be a 30mph speed limit until after the the pelican crossing past the Chafey's roundabout.[/p][/quote]If you look at maps all over the country they are all link, bypass's and ring roads etc are all 50mph blocking the access's is a cheaper solution than building a bridge.... weird how the speed of this road has only just became a problem.. This road has always been a 50mph..... but there again there was no footpaths accessing it. whatever66
  • Score: 6

2:24pm Mon 28 Jul 14

satisfecho says...

whatever66 wrote:
LynM wrote:
scubadude wrote:
RIP, so sad.

Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass.
Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help...
That part of the road is a link road - it can't be classed as a bypass as there are too many houses there so it doesn't 'bypass' anything. There should be a 30mph speed limit until after the the pelican crossing past the Chafey's roundabout.
If you look at maps all over the country they are all link, bypass's and ring roads etc are all 50mph blocking the access's is a cheaper solution than building a bridge.... weird how the speed of this road has only just became a problem.. This road has always been a 50mph..... but there again there was no footpaths accessing it.
There has been footpaths accessing it since it opened late 80s/early 90s

One thing that would make a huge amount of difference is cutting back overgrowth which would of been a fraction of the size all those years back.

This needs to be maintained, not forgotten about. Building bridges/islands or lowering the speed is not the answer.

The road is not dangerous which is why the has been so little incidents over the years.
[quote][p][bold]whatever66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LynM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: RIP, so sad. Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass. Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help...[/p][/quote]That part of the road is a link road - it can't be classed as a bypass as there are too many houses there so it doesn't 'bypass' anything. There should be a 30mph speed limit until after the the pelican crossing past the Chafey's roundabout.[/p][/quote]If you look at maps all over the country they are all link, bypass's and ring roads etc are all 50mph blocking the access's is a cheaper solution than building a bridge.... weird how the speed of this road has only just became a problem.. This road has always been a 50mph..... but there again there was no footpaths accessing it.[/p][/quote]There has been footpaths accessing it since it opened late 80s/early 90s One thing that would make a huge amount of difference is cutting back overgrowth which would of been a fraction of the size all those years back. This needs to be maintained, not forgotten about. Building bridges/islands or lowering the speed is not the answer. The road is not dangerous which is why the has been so little incidents over the years. satisfecho
  • Score: 12

3:03pm Mon 28 Jul 14

marabout says...

george444 wrote:
These posts are unbelievably disrespectful to the driver. Nothing has been confirmed as to 'who is to blame' etc, and using the poor kid's Facebook page to ridicule him is disgusting. He was merely warning other drivers of the speed cameras and the other posts saying 'watch out Weymouth' don't suggest in any way that he was speeding either in this incident or any others!! People are jumping to conclusions when they have no facts whatsoever.
In relation to the road itself, the islands have been put in on a 50mph road. It is at a pedestrian's discretion as to whether to use the islands or not! If they are worried about safety, they should use the subway at Westham traffic lights & go down Newstead/Goldcroft, or use the new pedestrian crossing down at chafeys.
I would have thought that the person to blame would be the person in the middle of a busy road walking a dog !

If only there were barriers to stop pedestrians wandering into a busy main road.
[quote][p][bold]george444[/bold] wrote: These posts are unbelievably disrespectful to the driver. Nothing has been confirmed as to 'who is to blame' etc, and using the poor kid's Facebook page to ridicule him is disgusting. He was merely warning other drivers of the speed cameras and the other posts saying 'watch out Weymouth' don't suggest in any way that he was speeding either in this incident or any others!! People are jumping to conclusions when they have no facts whatsoever. In relation to the road itself, the islands have been put in on a 50mph road. It is at a pedestrian's discretion as to whether to use the islands or not! If they are worried about safety, they should use the subway at Westham traffic lights & go down Newstead/Goldcroft, or use the new pedestrian crossing down at chafeys.[/p][/quote]I would have thought that the person to blame would be the person in the middle of a busy road walking a dog ! If only there were barriers to stop pedestrians wandering into a busy main road. marabout
  • Score: -13

3:18pm Mon 28 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

satisfecho wrote:
whatever66 wrote:
LynM wrote:
scubadude wrote:
RIP, so sad.

Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass.
Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help...
That part of the road is a link road - it can't be classed as a bypass as there are too many houses there so it doesn't 'bypass' anything. There should be a 30mph speed limit until after the the pelican crossing past the Chafey's roundabout.
If you look at maps all over the country they are all link, bypass's and ring roads etc are all 50mph blocking the access's is a cheaper solution than building a bridge.... weird how the speed of this road has only just became a problem.. This road has always been a 50mph..... but there again there was no footpaths accessing it.
There has been footpaths accessing it since it opened late 80s/early 90s

One thing that would make a huge amount of difference is cutting back overgrowth which would of been a fraction of the size all those years back.

This needs to be maintained, not forgotten about. Building bridges/islands or lowering the speed is not the answer.

The road is not dangerous which is why the has been so little incidents over the years.
satisfecho I can actually agree with you here one led from the behind the college I used it often I went pass the water board part and then led to the subway many people used this as short cut to town using the subway to get to town. I can also remember climbing the rails to cross the road of the roundabout to get to king street rather than going the long way round, an extra 5 mins walk. I can also remember crossing the road opposite the gateway meant for Radipole Lake park attendants, which now seems to become the shortcut to the lakes. Now 2 disastrous accidents later surely the park should also take some responsibility and request that we go through the car park and the information centre based there which I the correct entrance to he park.

LynM in one way your are correct it is a link road it is also a bypass it bypass's town and the housing estates running along the edge of town separating them.... unless you can tell me and everyone else where on either side of this road are there any house's situated ..... as I have driven up this road for years and I have yet to see one
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatever66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LynM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: RIP, so sad. Absolutely tragic, even more so because when the idiots put the crossings in we all said "no- wall the road in to stop people crossing it is a BYPASS" now we have had another fatal accident- Please I beg the council and highways remove the crossings and do everything in your power to stop people crossing this road, it is supposed to be a 50mph bypass. Pedestrian laziness and Bad driving are things you can never eradicate but you can help...[/p][/quote]That part of the road is a link road - it can't be classed as a bypass as there are too many houses there so it doesn't 'bypass' anything. There should be a 30mph speed limit until after the the pelican crossing past the Chafey's roundabout.[/p][/quote]If you look at maps all over the country they are all link, bypass's and ring roads etc are all 50mph blocking the access's is a cheaper solution than building a bridge.... weird how the speed of this road has only just became a problem.. This road has always been a 50mph..... but there again there was no footpaths accessing it.[/p][/quote]There has been footpaths accessing it since it opened late 80s/early 90s One thing that would make a huge amount of difference is cutting back overgrowth which would of been a fraction of the size all those years back. This needs to be maintained, not forgotten about. Building bridges/islands or lowering the speed is not the answer. The road is not dangerous which is why the has been so little incidents over the years.[/p][/quote]satisfecho I can actually agree with you here one led from the behind the college I used it often I went pass the water board part and then led to the subway many people used this as short cut to town using the subway to get to town. I can also remember climbing the rails to cross the road of the roundabout to get to king street rather than going the long way round, an extra 5 mins walk. I can also remember crossing the road opposite the gateway meant for Radipole Lake park attendants, which now seems to become the shortcut to the lakes. Now 2 disastrous accidents later surely the park should also take some responsibility and request that we go through the car park and the information centre based there which I the correct entrance to he park. LynM in one way your are correct it is a link road it is also a bypass it bypass's town and the housing estates running along the edge of town separating them.... unless you can tell me and everyone else where on either side of this road are there any house's situated ..... as I have driven up this road for years and I have yet to see one whatever66
  • Score: 1

3:45pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Goldman says...

Why the hell are people making comments about who was to blame. Shame on you. You do not know what happened, let the police carry out their investigation before you start throwing mud. It hard enough for the familes and friends before you have your penny views. Let these victims rest in peace
Why the hell are people making comments about who was to blame. Shame on you. You do not know what happened, let the police carry out their investigation before you start throwing mud. It hard enough for the familes and friends before you have your penny views. Let these victims rest in peace Goldman
  • Score: 9

4:15pm Mon 28 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

Goldman wrote:
Why the hell are people making comments about who was to blame. Shame on you. You do not know what happened, let the police carry out their investigation before you start throwing mud. It hard enough for the familes and friends before you have your penny views. Let these victims rest in peace
Totally agree with you here but the negative reviews are coming direct from the lets hang them society who are judge and jury and cant wait to get there little daggers ie the keyboard out to do as much damage as possible before the inquest even has a date just as long as they think they are right. As you can see from the comments above yet even when they when they are faced with facts ie entrance to the nature reserve or the lack of house 's on the bypass aka link rd... ring rd they still don't like it....... conclusion here is they like to think they are right and everyone else is wrong...... lets see how many thumbs down this one can get for pointing out the facts once again......... PS I have not laid the blame with either party in any of my posts.
[quote][p][bold]Goldman[/bold] wrote: Why the hell are people making comments about who was to blame. Shame on you. You do not know what happened, let the police carry out their investigation before you start throwing mud. It hard enough for the familes and friends before you have your penny views. Let these victims rest in peace[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you here but the negative reviews are coming direct from the lets hang them society who are judge and jury and cant wait to get there little daggers ie the keyboard out to do as much damage as possible before the inquest even has a date just as long as they think they are right. As you can see from the comments above yet even when they when they are faced with facts ie entrance to the nature reserve or the lack of house 's on the bypass aka link rd... ring rd they still don't like it....... conclusion here is they like to think they are right and everyone else is wrong...... lets see how many thumbs down this one can get for pointing out the facts once again......... PS I have not laid the blame with either party in any of my posts. whatever66
  • Score: -2

4:21pm Mon 28 Jul 14

portlandboy says...

Exactly.
Nobody wants to see these sorts of headlines repeated and everyone feels sorry for those involved and their families. Now is the time to stop it happening in future.
The road was designed to allow traffic to quickly and safely exit and BYPASS the town without having to stop in long queues along Dorchester Road. Why would you then add pedestrians to that mix making it exactly the same as the previous route?
The Ringwood bypass, Upton bypass, Ferndown bypass etc. all have bridges or no crossings at all. That is the whole point of having a bypass.
Reducing the speed limit and adding crossing points will only cause the road to become unused as motorists will favour Dorchester Road again. Then we will be having similar accidents there. Use the road as it was intended - a bypass, not a town centre road.
Exactly. Nobody wants to see these sorts of headlines repeated and everyone feels sorry for those involved and their families. Now is the time to stop it happening in future. The road was designed to allow traffic to quickly and safely exit and BYPASS the town without having to stop in long queues along Dorchester Road. Why would you then add pedestrians to that mix making it exactly the same as the previous route? The Ringwood bypass, Upton bypass, Ferndown bypass etc. all have bridges or no crossings at all. That is the whole point of having a bypass. Reducing the speed limit and adding crossing points will only cause the road to become unused as motorists will favour Dorchester Road again. Then we will be having similar accidents there. Use the road as it was intended - a bypass, not a town centre road. portlandboy
  • Score: 14

6:04pm Mon 28 Jul 14

whatever66 says...

Echo has updated policeman states facts of accident maybe now the armchair police will stop...... And hopefully the lads parents can have some peace x
Echo has updated policeman states facts of accident maybe now the armchair police will stop...... And hopefully the lads parents can have some peace x whatever66
  • Score: 1

9:36pm Mon 28 Jul 14

george444 says...

I would hereby like to bring the crossing islands on Portland beach road into the crossfire. And that road is 60mph!!! People have been crossing that road for years and years and years without incident. The islands have just caused drivers to be unnecessarily slower & I rarely see anyone using them. But anyway my point is that pedestrians use those at their own risk, if an accident happened there, would the blame be on the driver? This awful accident is no different. Weymouth is 50mph, it's a bypass, people shouldn't be crossing on it, if they do they need to be extremely vigilant & take much more care than on any 30 road. I'm a driver and I wouldn't dare cross in the middle of a road that fast! The brand new pelican crossing has been put in for this reason, use it! I am not blaming the poor woman but if cases like this are to be avoided in future, people really need to sort their common sense out.
I would hereby like to bring the crossing islands on Portland beach road into the crossfire. And that road is 60mph!!! People have been crossing that road for years and years and years without incident. The islands have just caused drivers to be unnecessarily slower & I rarely see anyone using them. But anyway my point is that pedestrians use those at their own risk, if an accident happened there, would the blame be on the driver? This awful accident is no different. Weymouth is 50mph, it's a bypass, people shouldn't be crossing on it, if they do they need to be extremely vigilant & take much more care than on any 30 road. I'm a driver and I wouldn't dare cross in the middle of a road that fast! The brand new pelican crossing has been put in for this reason, use it! I am not blaming the poor woman but if cases like this are to be avoided in future, people really need to sort their common sense out. george444
  • Score: 6

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