Plans for new Weymouth football stadium set for approval

Plans for new Weymouth football stadium set for approval

Plans for new Weymouth football stadium set for approval

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WEYMOUTH and Portland Borough Council is set to approve a planning application for a new home stadium for Weymouth Football Club – as long as developers meet certain criteria.

Members of the council’s planning and traffic committee will meet next Tuesday (August 19) to discuss the proposal, which has been submitted by Wessex Delivery – and construction work could start in the next three years.

The application is for 2.48 hectares of land on Lodmoor Way to be developed into a new stadium with covered stands and associated facilities, a training pitch, floodlights, a community facilities building containing a cafe and a shop and a new car park with 38 spaces and two coach parking spaces.

The stadium’s capacity is estimated to be 5,000 people.

Council officers have recommended that councillors delegate authority to approve the application, subject to Wessex Delivery obliging to financially contribute towards site mitigation, the construction of an alternative tern nesting island and additional wardening on match days.

The club’s current home ground the Bob Lucas Stadium and its training pitch and car park is proposed to be developed into a new housing complex which would include 150 to 170 dwellings, including affordable homes, a public open space, a convenience store, access and parking.

WDDC refused an application by landowners Wessex Delivery last year and the process is going to the Planning Inspectorate later this year with interested parties, including WPBC putting in submissions.

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1:21pm Mon 11 Aug 14

The Fish says...

So access to this new ground is going to be via either Preston Road via Overcombe Corner or Dorchester Road via Greenhill - not very clever really could'nt get further from main transport routes!
Surely the stadium (if it has to move) would be better situated near the current Park & Ride facilities.
So access to this new ground is going to be via either Preston Road via Overcombe Corner or Dorchester Road via Greenhill - not very clever really could'nt get further from main transport routes! Surely the stadium (if it has to move) would be better situated near the current Park & Ride facilities. The Fish
  • Score: 23

1:24pm Mon 11 Aug 14

bargain price says...

brown envelopes time.....lol
brown envelopes time.....lol bargain price
  • Score: 22

1:25pm Mon 11 Aug 14

caapprentice says...

Where is ' Lodmoor Way'? I couldn't find it on google maps and a google search didn't help.
The car park doesn't seem very big, not much of a crowd of spectators, assuming 2 per car plus (say) 36 per coach = 148!
Where is ' Lodmoor Way'? I couldn't find it on google maps and a google search didn't help. The car park doesn't seem very big, not much of a crowd of spectators, assuming 2 per car plus (say) 36 per coach = 148! caapprentice
  • Score: 24

2:19pm Mon 11 Aug 14

adrianclerical says...

Woefully inadequate car and coach parking facilities. Very poor public transport links as well. Looks like this project hasn't been thought through at all In my opinion the location is wholly inappropriate as well - most matches will require spectators to travel so why not land easily accessible from the new relief road where many will travel into Weymouth?
Woefully inadequate car and coach parking facilities. Very poor public transport links as well. Looks like this project hasn't been thought through at all In my opinion the location is wholly inappropriate as well - most matches will require spectators to travel so why not land easily accessible from the new relief road where many will travel into Weymouth? adrianclerical
  • Score: 29

2:35pm Mon 11 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

caapprentice wrote:
Where is ' Lodmoor Way'? I couldn't find it on google maps and a google search didn't help.
The car park doesn't seem very big, not much of a crowd of spectators, assuming 2 per car plus (say) 36 per coach = 148!
Have you actually been round there? Not noticed the big car park? Holds about 2000 cars at a guess. Stacks of room. The plans will not fall down because of car parking, try something else. Believe me. It even has a bus that stops outside, which is better than the present stadium. So I afraid transport issues are just barking up the wrong tree. Environmental might have more chance.
[quote][p][bold]caapprentice[/bold] wrote: Where is ' Lodmoor Way'? I couldn't find it on google maps and a google search didn't help. The car park doesn't seem very big, not much of a crowd of spectators, assuming 2 per car plus (say) 36 per coach = 148![/p][/quote]Have you actually been round there? Not noticed the big car park? Holds about 2000 cars at a guess. Stacks of room. The plans will not fall down because of car parking, try something else. Believe me. It even has a bus that stops outside, which is better than the present stadium. So I afraid transport issues are just barking up the wrong tree. Environmental might have more chance. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 3

2:38pm Mon 11 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

adrianclerical wrote:
Woefully inadequate car and coach parking facilities. Very poor public transport links as well. Looks like this project hasn't been thought through at all In my opinion the location is wholly inappropriate as well - most matches will require spectators to travel so why not land easily accessible from the new relief road where many will travel into Weymouth?
There is stacks of room to park and the bus links are better than they have now. You are talking complete rubbish. I agree that the relief road is a better option, but that's not what they put in the plans in for, so it is POINTLESS bringing it up, because it has nothing to do with it.
[quote][p][bold]adrianclerical[/bold] wrote: Woefully inadequate car and coach parking facilities. Very poor public transport links as well. Looks like this project hasn't been thought through at all In my opinion the location is wholly inappropriate as well - most matches will require spectators to travel so why not land easily accessible from the new relief road where many will travel into Weymouth?[/p][/quote]There is stacks of room to park and the bus links are better than they have now. You are talking complete rubbish. I agree that the relief road is a better option, but that's not what they put in the plans in for, so it is POINTLESS bringing it up, because it has nothing to do with it. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 2

2:49pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Techie says...

adrianclerical wrote:
Woefully inadequate car and coach parking facilities. Very poor public transport links as well. Looks like this project hasn't been thought through at all In my opinion the location is wholly inappropriate as well - most matches will require spectators to travel so why not land easily accessible from the new relief road where many will travel into Weymouth?
If you read the transport assessment (available on dorsetforyou along with the rest of the application) you will see that the intention for people arriving by car is to use the 340-odd spaces in the beach car park right next door, with the further 500 spaces at the Lodmoor car park as overspill, where there is also capacity for 50-odd coaches. I would suggest that the transport links are far superior, with the number 4 bus stopping close by and the site as a whole being a very easy walk along the seafront from the town centre.

I have no real interest in this either way but a lot of this stuff has been thought about already and either planned for or mitigated.

Link: http://bit.ly/1A7zDc
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[quote][p][bold]adrianclerical[/bold] wrote: Woefully inadequate car and coach parking facilities. Very poor public transport links as well. Looks like this project hasn't been thought through at all In my opinion the location is wholly inappropriate as well - most matches will require spectators to travel so why not land easily accessible from the new relief road where many will travel into Weymouth?[/p][/quote]If you read the transport assessment (available on dorsetforyou along with the rest of the application) you will see that the intention for people arriving by car is to use the 340-odd spaces in the beach car park right next door, with the further 500 spaces at the Lodmoor car park as overspill, where there is also capacity for 50-odd coaches. I would suggest that the transport links are far superior, with the number 4 bus stopping close by and the site as a whole being a very easy walk along the seafront from the town centre. I have no real interest in this either way but a lot of this stuff has been thought about already and either planned for or mitigated. Link: http://bit.ly/1A7zDc D Techie
  • Score: 0

2:49pm Mon 11 Aug 14

W_Essex says...

Plenty empty spaces always at car park off Preston beach,why does anyone in Weymouth seem incapable of walking any distance,the park&ride is not that far away via path by rugby club and plenty buses run down Preston beach road unlike past present stadium
Plenty empty spaces always at car park off Preston beach,why does anyone in Weymouth seem incapable of walking any distance,the park&ride is not that far away via path by rugby club and plenty buses run down Preston beach road unlike past present stadium W_Essex
  • Score: 3

2:58pm Mon 11 Aug 14

southill massive says...

At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college.
At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college. southill massive
  • Score: 6

3:03pm Mon 11 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

southill massive wrote:
At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college.
More Rubbish its £2 to park at the Ground! Yes it's free outside. but that's not what you have said. Lodmoor is free after 6pm, so that's your theory boshed on the head for the evening games isn't it.
[quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college.[/p][/quote]More Rubbish its £2 to park at the Ground! Yes it's free outside. but that's not what you have said. Lodmoor is free after 6pm, so that's your theory boshed on the head for the evening games isn't it. MrTomSmith
  • Score: -1

3:42pm Mon 11 Aug 14

melcombe boy says...

I just wish it was a decent stadium.
I just wish it was a decent stadium. melcombe boy
  • Score: 1

3:45pm Mon 11 Aug 14

PHonnor says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
southill massive wrote: At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college.
More Rubbish its £2 to park at the Ground! Yes it's free outside. but that's not what you have said. Lodmoor is free after 6pm, so that's your theory boshed on the head for the evening games isn't it.
But that £2 goes to the club where as using the Lodmoor carpark will go into the council coffers so a loss of income.
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college.[/p][/quote]More Rubbish its £2 to park at the Ground! Yes it's free outside. but that's not what you have said. Lodmoor is free after 6pm, so that's your theory boshed on the head for the evening games isn't it.[/p][/quote]But that £2 goes to the club where as using the Lodmoor carpark will go into the council coffers so a loss of income. PHonnor
  • Score: 3

3:47pm Mon 11 Aug 14

PHonnor says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
southill massive wrote: At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college.
More Rubbish its £2 to park at the Ground! Yes it's free outside. but that's not what you have said. Lodmoor is free after 6pm, so that's your theory boshed on the head for the evening games isn't it.
But that £2 goes to the club where as using Lodmoor car park the money goes to the council, so loss of income.
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college.[/p][/quote]More Rubbish its £2 to park at the Ground! Yes it's free outside. but that's not what you have said. Lodmoor is free after 6pm, so that's your theory boshed on the head for the evening games isn't it.[/p][/quote]But that £2 goes to the club where as using Lodmoor car park the money goes to the council, so loss of income. PHonnor
  • Score: 4

4:08pm Mon 11 Aug 14

stroller says...

Surprised the "concil" know where the ground is going certainly don,t seem to know where it is now! Looks like the "concillors" have been getting an early Christmas present! Wouldn,t trust them with a jam jar of thruppney bits!
Surprised the "concil" know where the ground is going certainly don,t seem to know where it is now! Looks like the "concillors" have been getting an early Christmas present! Wouldn,t trust them with a jam jar of thruppney bits! stroller
  • Score: 9

4:18pm Mon 11 Aug 14

leo210856 says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
caapprentice wrote:
Where is ' Lodmoor Way'? I couldn't find it on google maps and a google search didn't help.
The car park doesn't seem very big, not much of a crowd of spectators, assuming 2 per car plus (say) 36 per coach = 148!
Have you actually been round there? Not noticed the big car park? Holds about 2000 cars at a guess. Stacks of room. The plans will not fall down because of car parking, try something else. Believe me. It even has a bus that stops outside, which is better than the present stadium. So I afraid transport issues are just barking up the wrong tree. Environmental might have more chance.
Nail on head re parking

Clearly are a lot of challenge re the contamination but it seems the big players in such matters such as Natural England & The Environment agency aren't objecting.
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]caapprentice[/bold] wrote: Where is ' Lodmoor Way'? I couldn't find it on google maps and a google search didn't help. The car park doesn't seem very big, not much of a crowd of spectators, assuming 2 per car plus (say) 36 per coach = 148![/p][/quote]Have you actually been round there? Not noticed the big car park? Holds about 2000 cars at a guess. Stacks of room. The plans will not fall down because of car parking, try something else. Believe me. It even has a bus that stops outside, which is better than the present stadium. So I afraid transport issues are just barking up the wrong tree. Environmental might have more chance.[/p][/quote]Nail on head re parking Clearly are a lot of challenge re the contamination but it seems the big players in such matters such as Natural England & The Environment agency aren't objecting. leo210856
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Totallytopical says...

Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.
Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money. Totallytopical
  • Score: -10

4:46pm Mon 11 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

PHonnor wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
southill massive wrote: At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college.
More Rubbish its £2 to park at the Ground! Yes it's free outside. but that's not what you have said. Lodmoor is free after 6pm, so that's your theory boshed on the head for the evening games isn't it.
But that £2 goes to the club where as using Lodmoor car park the money goes to the council, so loss of income.
Yes I agree with that, but that wasn't the original point, its another one.
[quote][p][bold]PHonnor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southill massive[/bold] wrote: At the current ground parking is free. Lodmoor car park has 560 spaces that you have to pay for. Yes its only a few quid, but it might be just enough for people not to go an support there team. I assume most would park in the roads around the college.[/p][/quote]More Rubbish its £2 to park at the Ground! Yes it's free outside. but that's not what you have said. Lodmoor is free after 6pm, so that's your theory boshed on the head for the evening games isn't it.[/p][/quote]But that £2 goes to the club where as using Lodmoor car park the money goes to the council, so loss of income.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree with that, but that wasn't the original point, its another one. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 0

5:41pm Mon 11 Aug 14

caapprentice says...

MrTomSmith says...Have you actually been round there?
I can't go 'round there' if I don't know where Lodmoor Way is. I have seen no road signs for Lodmoor Way - is it the road to the tip?
MrTomSmith says...Have you actually been round there? I can't go 'round there' if I don't know where Lodmoor Way is. I have seen no road signs for Lodmoor Way - is it the road to the tip? caapprentice
  • Score: -2

6:24pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Phaedrus says...

The big problems with traffic and parking will come when there are other events at the new stadium during the main tourist season. The beach road gets very busy at times and when that coincides with one of those events that the stadium is going to need to be anywhere near financially viable there will be a potential for chaos.
The big problems with traffic and parking will come when there are other events at the new stadium during the main tourist season. The beach road gets very busy at times and when that coincides with one of those events that the stadium is going to need to be anywhere near financially viable there will be a potential for chaos. Phaedrus
  • Score: 6

6:29pm Mon 11 Aug 14

bargain price says...

how about flooding ?
how about flooding ? bargain price
  • Score: 4

6:35pm Mon 11 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

caapprentice wrote:
MrTomSmith says...Have you actually been round there?
I can't go 'round there' if I don't know where Lodmoor Way is. I have seen no road signs for Lodmoor Way - is it the road to the tip?
Right well when you drive into Weymouth Tip, there is waste ground on the left hand side. That is where they are going to build.

There is already a junction on your left as you go in, that goes a small car park that is hardly used. I think that will be the new car park for staff and players and then the ground will back onto the Tip, so when a ball goes flying over it will end up in the cardboard or metal skip!

Its not ideal by any means. Its not the perfect location, but parking is not an issue, there is stacks of room by the sealife centre. But yes the money taken will go to the council not the club, so that's a loss.

The other thing is, the ground will not belong to the club anymore, at the moment it does. So it is a really big gamble, and i think 10 years down the line they will be regretting it. Thats my view.
[quote][p][bold]caapprentice[/bold] wrote: MrTomSmith says...Have you actually been round there? I can't go 'round there' if I don't know where Lodmoor Way is. I have seen no road signs for Lodmoor Way - is it the road to the tip?[/p][/quote]Right well when you drive into Weymouth Tip, there is waste ground on the left hand side. That is where they are going to build. There is already a junction on your left as you go in, that goes a small car park that is hardly used. I think that will be the new car park for staff and players and then the ground will back onto the Tip, so when a ball goes flying over it will end up in the cardboard or metal skip! Its not ideal by any means. Its not the perfect location, but parking is not an issue, there is stacks of room by the sealife centre. But yes the money taken will go to the council not the club, so that's a loss. The other thing is, the ground will not belong to the club anymore, at the moment it does. So it is a really big gamble, and i think 10 years down the line they will be regretting it. Thats my view. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 11

6:44pm Mon 11 Aug 14

trymybest says...

caapprentice wrote:
MrTomSmith says...Have you actually been round there?
I can't go 'round there' if I don't know where Lodmoor Way is. I have seen no road signs for Lodmoor Way - is it the road to the tip?
Yes that will be the way to see a rubbish football team.
[quote][p][bold]caapprentice[/bold] wrote: MrTomSmith says...Have you actually been round there? I can't go 'round there' if I don't know where Lodmoor Way is. I have seen no road signs for Lodmoor Way - is it the road to the tip?[/p][/quote]Yes that will be the way to see a rubbish football team. trymybest
  • Score: -5

7:05pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

You can ALWAYS depend on dumbass local councils (anywhere in the country - or is it just WEYMOUTH ??) to think of the daftest option imaginable. IF fickwutts playing kids' games - as Pappa used to say, twenty-two grown men kicking a bladder of air around a field !! - could do so in utter silence, and the even bigger fickwutts who look on could also do so in silence, it would STILL be a bad location. Why the hell can't people think things out, build whatever they want to build, and JUST LEAVE IT THERE ?? Why do we always have to have this profligacy of building something, using it for a few decades, then tearing it down to build something different ?? Asda bought the original sight locals were accustomed to and, although one sympathises with normal people living nearby at the time, who may have had noise issues, the present site has been wherever it is for sometime now, so just LEAVE it where it is. The old site at Asda was far enough from the town center not to be too troublesome, noise-wise - but trying to get away from PEOPLE for a peaceful afternoon's communing with Nature at Lodmoor will NOT be helped by having to listen to empty-headed numbwits yelling, cheering or bawling obscenities at the players.
Finally, the area in question is NOT 'waste land' - it is home to all manner of Wildlife. You know - those species OTHER than chimpanzees !! It was once quite extensive lagoons, which eventually dried up during most summers, and I was one of the first - if not THE first - to discover a White Pelican swimming around on one of them, which remained for several days, I believe, in 1951....
You can ALWAYS depend on dumbass local councils (anywhere in the country - or is it just WEYMOUTH ??) to think of the daftest option imaginable. IF fickwutts playing kids' games - as Pappa used to say, twenty-two grown men kicking a bladder of air around a field !! - could do so in utter silence, and the even bigger fickwutts who look on could also do so in silence, it would STILL be a bad location. Why the hell can't people think things out, build whatever they want to build, and JUST LEAVE IT THERE ?? Why do we always have to have this profligacy of building something, using it for a few decades, then tearing it down to build something different ?? Asda bought the original sight locals were accustomed to and, although one sympathises with normal people living nearby at the time, who may have had noise issues, the present site has been wherever it is for sometime now, so just LEAVE it where it is. The old site at Asda was far enough from the town center not to be too troublesome, noise-wise - but trying to get away from PEOPLE for a peaceful afternoon's communing with Nature at Lodmoor will NOT be helped by having to listen to empty-headed numbwits yelling, cheering or bawling obscenities at the players. Finally, the area in question is NOT 'waste land' - it is home to all manner of Wildlife. You know - those species OTHER than chimpanzees !! It was once quite extensive lagoons, which eventually dried up during most summers, and I was one of the first - if not THE first - to discover a White Pelican swimming around on one of them, which remained for several days, I believe, in 1951.... Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 6

7:48pm Mon 11 Aug 14

iansedwell says...

Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated...

Can this appalling council get any more idiotic?

Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.
Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated... Can this appalling council get any more idiotic? Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access. iansedwell
  • Score: 8

8:12pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Caption Sensible says...

iansedwell wrote:
Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated...

Can this appalling council get any more idiotic?

Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.
You're not from Weymouth are you?

A man that knew his local area history would know that Weymouth has a proud footballing pedigree in the non-league world. Only a few years ago they were good enough to draw with Nottingham Forest, at their stadium, in the FA Cup. They were founder members of the Conference and the only reason they could not gain election into the Football League was because the pitch at the Rec was not good enough.

Sure things have taken a dip lately but they are on their way back up again.

Dorchester is very much the junior club and Weymouth does not need to merge with them.
[quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated... Can this appalling council get any more idiotic? Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.[/p][/quote]You're not from Weymouth are you? A man that knew his local area history would know that Weymouth has a proud footballing pedigree in the non-league world. Only a few years ago they were good enough to draw with Nottingham Forest, at their stadium, in the FA Cup. They were founder members of the Conference and the only reason they could not gain election into the Football League was because the pitch at the Rec was not good enough. Sure things have taken a dip lately but they are on their way back up again. Dorchester is very much the junior club and Weymouth does not need to merge with them. Caption Sensible
  • Score: 8

8:16pm Mon 11 Aug 14

TERRAloyal says...

Totallytopical wrote:
Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.
That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams.

Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes
[quote][p][bold]Totallytopical[/bold] wrote: Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.[/p][/quote]That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams. Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes TERRAloyal
  • Score: 6

8:55pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Rodwellocal says...

Doesnt the club have to agree to the move, or can it be made to move?
Doesnt the club have to agree to the move, or can it be made to move? Rodwellocal
  • Score: 3

9:14pm Mon 11 Aug 14

JACKC says...

IDIOTIC COUNCIL YET AGAIN DOES NOT LISTEN TO PUBLIC OPINION!!! What a ridiculous site for a football club. It's all about money and building houses that will NOT solve the housing situation as they will be too expensive for the lower paid (and there's a lot of them in Weymouth). The councillors should LISTEN to public opinion for once - this is the worst site you could put a football ground. It will totally ruin the Lodmoor reserve as it is, cause even more congestion in this area on a busy road. IDIOTS!!!!!
IDIOTIC COUNCIL YET AGAIN DOES NOT LISTEN TO PUBLIC OPINION!!! What a ridiculous site for a football club. It's all about money and building houses that will NOT solve the housing situation as they will be too expensive for the lower paid (and there's a lot of them in Weymouth). The councillors should LISTEN to public opinion for once - this is the worst site you could put a football ground. It will totally ruin the Lodmoor reserve as it is, cause even more congestion in this area on a busy road. IDIOTS!!!!! JACKC
  • Score: 15

9:34pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Shock-Horror says...

For me the really really sad point is how this all came about, people have put many hours of their free time, spent thousands of hours fund raising, put money from their own pockets into supporting the team etc. Then a man comes in talking about making the club set sufficient and how he will make it a a club that will do well for itself as a small club. Then he secretly buys the land with the plan for making a huge profit for himself. He leaves, the club ends up a few divisions lower, and now his plan has come to fruition and in 3 years time he will be an even richer man.

All this is not for the good of Weymouth FC or the people of weymouth, its to do with money. very very sad.

However on the other side, Weymouth does need more housing.

Where else can it be put? -The green space of the Curtis fields will supply some of the housing needs, again this is a public space bought and built on for profit not the good of the community.
For me the really really sad point is how this all came about, people have put many hours of their free time, spent thousands of hours fund raising, put money from their own pockets into supporting the team etc. Then a man comes in talking about making the club set sufficient and how he will make it a a club that will do well for itself as a small club. Then he secretly buys the land with the plan for making a huge profit for himself. He leaves, the club ends up a few divisions lower, and now his plan has come to fruition and in 3 years time he will be an even richer man. All this is not for the good of Weymouth FC or the people of weymouth, its to do with money. very very sad. However on the other side, Weymouth does need more housing. Where else can it be put? -The green space of the Curtis fields will supply some of the housing needs, again this is a public space bought and built on for profit not the good of the community. Shock-Horror
  • Score: 12

9:52pm Mon 11 Aug 14

trymybest says...

Read Gary Penfold's letter "Site perfect for stadium" in the Echo Saturday 9th August, makes a lot of sense, Skanska road building site, Littlemoor road tick's all the boxes, then no one can say Weymouth fc that Rubbish team that play's on a council tip, because they will if they go to Lodmore.
Read Gary Penfold's letter "Site perfect for stadium" in the Echo Saturday 9th August, makes a lot of sense, Skanska road building site, Littlemoor road tick's all the boxes, then no one can say Weymouth fc that Rubbish team that play's on a council tip, because they will if they go to Lodmore. trymybest
  • Score: 5

10:37pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Schrodinger's Cat says...

JACKC wrote:
IDIOTIC COUNCIL YET AGAIN DOES NOT LISTEN TO PUBLIC OPINION!!! What a ridiculous site for a football club. It's all about money and building houses that will NOT solve the housing situation as they will be too expensive for the lower paid (and there's a lot of them in Weymouth). The councillors should LISTEN to public opinion for once - this is the worst site you could put a football ground. It will totally ruin the Lodmoor reserve as it is, cause even more congestion in this area on a busy road. IDIOTS!!!!!
Oh dear - always blame the council.
Firstly the council (or at least the planning committee) haven't made a decision - the meeting is not until next week.
Secondly, it's not the council who have proposed putting the football club on that site - it's the developers (who want to build houses on the existing football ground site)
Thirdly, when it comes to planning issues, public opinion is largely irrelevant. You can't refuse planning permission simply because people don't like it. You have to be able to argue that there are relevant planning issues (such as difficulty of access or environmental impact) which mean that this would be a bad place to put a football ground.
Whilst it may be true that some councillors are idiots it seems a little harsh to give them a hard time over this.
[quote][p][bold]JACKC[/bold] wrote: IDIOTIC COUNCIL YET AGAIN DOES NOT LISTEN TO PUBLIC OPINION!!! What a ridiculous site for a football club. It's all about money and building houses that will NOT solve the housing situation as they will be too expensive for the lower paid (and there's a lot of them in Weymouth). The councillors should LISTEN to public opinion for once - this is the worst site you could put a football ground. It will totally ruin the Lodmoor reserve as it is, cause even more congestion in this area on a busy road. IDIOTS!!!!![/p][/quote]Oh dear - always blame the council. Firstly the council (or at least the planning committee) haven't made a decision - the meeting is not until next week. Secondly, it's not the council who have proposed putting the football club on that site - it's the developers (who want to build houses on the existing football ground site) Thirdly, when it comes to planning issues, public opinion is largely irrelevant. You can't refuse planning permission simply because people don't like it. You have to be able to argue that there are relevant planning issues (such as difficulty of access or environmental impact) which mean that this would be a bad place to put a football ground. Whilst it may be true that some councillors are idiots it seems a little harsh to give them a hard time over this. Schrodinger's Cat
  • Score: 8

11:28pm Mon 11 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

iansedwell wrote:
Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated...

Can this appalling council get any more idiotic?

Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.
Dorchester have an excellent ground.......yes sure, game off last week in August Waterlogged. It is unsafe as well when its full, luckily they don't often fill it. Bottle necks at the corners, very dangerous. How many games postponed last season? 3 4 5, at least 5.
[quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated... Can this appalling council get any more idiotic? Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.[/p][/quote]Dorchester have an excellent ground.......yes sure, game off last week in August Waterlogged. It is unsafe as well when its full, luckily they don't often fill it. Bottle necks at the corners, very dangerous. How many games postponed last season? 3 4 5, at least 5. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 4

11:39pm Mon 11 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

I didn't trust Curtis when he was in charge, and I certainly don't trust him now he gives me the shivers. You know he used to sit and smile when Weymouth conceded a goal, sitting in the directors box smiling. Horrible man. Shivers.
I didn't trust Curtis when he was in charge, and I certainly don't trust him now he gives me the shivers. You know he used to sit and smile when Weymouth conceded a goal, sitting in the directors box smiling. Horrible man. Shivers. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 9

12:22am Tue 12 Aug 14

iansedwell says...

Caption Sensible wrote:
iansedwell wrote:
Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated...

Can this appalling council get any more idiotic?

Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.
You're not from Weymouth are you?

A man that knew his local area history would know that Weymouth has a proud footballing pedigree in the non-league world. Only a few years ago they were good enough to draw with Nottingham Forest, at their stadium, in the FA Cup. They were founder members of the Conference and the only reason they could not gain election into the Football League was because the pitch at the Rec was not good enough.

Sure things have taken a dip lately but they are on their way back up again.

Dorchester is very much the junior club and Weymouth does not need to merge with them.
On the contrary, I was born here. I was at school with Frank O'Farrell's daughter and he would visit the playground every now and then. I was taught to play football by Phil Stocker. I would regularly attend matches at the Rec. Weymouth has been a team with a chequered and sometimes inspirational past, even as recently as 2005/6. But it has also been team dogged by the mediocre. Why on earth does the town wish to retain it? Attendances are dire, finances have been doubtful for more than few years. Hardly anyone is aware of fixtures let alone the results. It is far better to let the old club die. Any semblance of tradition or town pride in the club died years ago. It will not be missed.
[quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated... Can this appalling council get any more idiotic? Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.[/p][/quote]You're not from Weymouth are you? A man that knew his local area history would know that Weymouth has a proud footballing pedigree in the non-league world. Only a few years ago they were good enough to draw with Nottingham Forest, at their stadium, in the FA Cup. They were founder members of the Conference and the only reason they could not gain election into the Football League was because the pitch at the Rec was not good enough. Sure things have taken a dip lately but they are on their way back up again. Dorchester is very much the junior club and Weymouth does not need to merge with them.[/p][/quote]On the contrary, I was born here. I was at school with Frank O'Farrell's daughter and he would visit the playground every now and then. I was taught to play football by Phil Stocker. I would regularly attend matches at the Rec. Weymouth has been a team with a chequered and sometimes inspirational past, even as recently as 2005/6. But it has also been team dogged by the mediocre. Why on earth does the town wish to retain it? Attendances are dire, finances have been doubtful for more than few years. Hardly anyone is aware of fixtures let alone the results. It is far better to let the old club die. Any semblance of tradition or town pride in the club died years ago. It will not be missed. iansedwell
  • Score: -2

12:42am Tue 12 Aug 14

Techie says...

Schrodinger's Cat has said much of what I came back here to say. The planning committee can only discuss and decide upon the current planning application within the material planning considerations. They are not deliberating, and cannot deliberate, whether the football club can move, nor whether it should move.

I cannot describe myself as a follower or a fan of any football club, but have followed the ups and downs of the Terras in the same way that many Weymouthians have. There is understandably anger about matters that occurred during Mr Curtis' ownership of the club, but that is not what is on the table at this moment and, emotive as it may be, the committee simply cannot give those matters consideration.

I suspect many people imagine local authorities, and planning committees in particular, have a lot more power than they actually do. As I said, they can only judge on applications within a fairly narrow set of boundaries (the material considerations) and these do not extend to the whys and wherefores of whether or not Weymouth FC should make a move to Lodmoor, only whether the construction of a stadium and the associated works should be carried out. The decision to move will be a commercial one, made by the club.

I cannot pretend to be any sort of expert in planning law and its procedures but have had a fair amount of exposure to it over the years. It seems an **** sometimes, and behaves strangely sometimes, but it is meant to ensure that planners and planning committees remain inpartial and do not get bogged down in considerations that are for others to worry about.

The Echo website always does terrible things to links, but the Royal Town Planning Institute has a fairly good list on their website of material planning considerations - and those which are not (PDF): http://bit.ly/1ukF3k
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Schrodinger's Cat has said much of what I came back here to say. The planning committee can only discuss and decide upon the current planning application within the material planning considerations. They are not deliberating, and cannot deliberate, whether the football club can move, nor whether it should move. I cannot describe myself as a follower or a fan of any football club, but have followed the ups and downs of the Terras in the same way that many Weymouthians have. There is understandably anger about matters that occurred during Mr Curtis' ownership of the club, but that is not what is on the table at this moment and, emotive as it may be, the committee simply cannot give those matters consideration. I suspect many people imagine local authorities, and planning committees in particular, have a lot more power than they actually do. As I said, they can only judge on applications within a fairly narrow set of boundaries (the material considerations) and these do not extend to the whys and wherefores of whether or not Weymouth FC should make a move to Lodmoor, only whether the construction of a stadium and the associated works should be carried out. The decision to move will be a commercial one, made by the club. I cannot pretend to be any sort of expert in planning law and its procedures but have had a fair amount of exposure to it over the years. It seems an **** sometimes, and behaves strangely sometimes, but it is meant to ensure that planners and planning committees remain inpartial and do not get bogged down in considerations that are for others to worry about. The Echo website always does terrible things to links, but the Royal Town Planning Institute has a fairly good list on their website of material planning considerations - and those which are not (PDF): http://bit.ly/1ukF3k 0 Techie
  • Score: 3

5:19am Tue 12 Aug 14

mark@greenhill says...

TERRAloyal wrote:
Totallytopical wrote:
Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.
That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams.

Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes
Clubs have merged in the past and survived.
It's only the small town, small minded attitude of Football supporters in general that is the problem.
Simple minded territorial and tribal.
Too dim to realise the potential advantages that merging would bring.
As one club, the might stand a chance of actually making a name for themselves, and stop lurching from one financial crisis to the next, but will the supporters go for it, nah, they would rather both clubs remain Saturday afternoon irrelevances that leak money till they go broke.
[quote][p][bold]TERRAloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Totallytopical[/bold] wrote: Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.[/p][/quote]That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams. Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes[/p][/quote]Clubs have merged in the past and survived. It's only the small town, small minded attitude of Football supporters in general that is the problem. Simple minded territorial and tribal. Too dim to realise the potential advantages that merging would bring. As one club, the might stand a chance of actually making a name for themselves, and stop lurching from one financial crisis to the next, but will the supporters go for it, nah, they would rather both clubs remain Saturday afternoon irrelevances that leak money till they go broke. mark@greenhill
  • Score: -2

5:53am Tue 12 Aug 14

PHonnor says...

iansedwell wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote:
iansedwell wrote:
Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated...

Can this appalling council get any more idiotic?

Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.
You're not from Weymouth are you?

A man that knew his local area history would know that Weymouth has a proud footballing pedigree in the non-league world. Only a few years ago they were good enough to draw with Nottingham Forest, at their stadium, in the FA Cup. They were founder members of the Conference and the only reason they could not gain election into the Football League was because the pitch at the Rec was not good enough.

Sure things have taken a dip lately but they are on their way back up again.

Dorchester is very much the junior club and Weymouth does not need to merge with them.
On the contrary, I was born here. I was at school with Frank O'Farrell's daughter and he would visit the playground every now and then. I was taught to play football by Phil Stocker. I would regularly attend matches at the Rec. Weymouth has been a team with a chequered and sometimes inspirational past, even as recently as 2005/6. But it has also been team dogged by the mediocre. Why on earth does the town wish to retain it? Attendances are dire, finances have been doubtful for more than few years. Hardly anyone is aware of fixtures let alone the results. It is far better to let the old club die. Any semblance of tradition or town pride in the club died years ago. It will not be missed.
The issues you mention since 2006 are down to dodgy owners, asset strippers and over spending. If you taken the time to take some interest you will see things have changed for the better and the club is far from dieing and will be around long after you have popped your cloggs.
[quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated... Can this appalling council get any more idiotic? Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.[/p][/quote]You're not from Weymouth are you? A man that knew his local area history would know that Weymouth has a proud footballing pedigree in the non-league world. Only a few years ago they were good enough to draw with Nottingham Forest, at their stadium, in the FA Cup. They were founder members of the Conference and the only reason they could not gain election into the Football League was because the pitch at the Rec was not good enough. Sure things have taken a dip lately but they are on their way back up again. Dorchester is very much the junior club and Weymouth does not need to merge with them.[/p][/quote]On the contrary, I was born here. I was at school with Frank O'Farrell's daughter and he would visit the playground every now and then. I was taught to play football by Phil Stocker. I would regularly attend matches at the Rec. Weymouth has been a team with a chequered and sometimes inspirational past, even as recently as 2005/6. But it has also been team dogged by the mediocre. Why on earth does the town wish to retain it? Attendances are dire, finances have been doubtful for more than few years. Hardly anyone is aware of fixtures let alone the results. It is far better to let the old club die. Any semblance of tradition or town pride in the club died years ago. It will not be missed.[/p][/quote]The issues you mention since 2006 are down to dodgy owners, asset strippers and over spending. If you taken the time to take some interest you will see things have changed for the better and the club is far from dieing and will be around long after you have popped your cloggs. PHonnor
  • Score: 5

6:58am Tue 12 Aug 14

PHonnor says...

iansedwell wrote:
Caption Sensible wrote:
iansedwell wrote:
Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated...

Can this appalling council get any more idiotic?

Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.
You're not from Weymouth are you?

A man that knew his local area history would know that Weymouth has a proud footballing pedigree in the non-league world. Only a few years ago they were good enough to draw with Nottingham Forest, at their stadium, in the FA Cup. They were founder members of the Conference and the only reason they could not gain election into the Football League was because the pitch at the Rec was not good enough.

Sure things have taken a dip lately but they are on their way back up again.

Dorchester is very much the junior club and Weymouth does not need to merge with them.
On the contrary, I was born here. I was at school with Frank O'Farrell's daughter and he would visit the playground every now and then. I was taught to play football by Phil Stocker. I would regularly attend matches at the Rec. Weymouth has been a team with a chequered and sometimes inspirational past, even as recently as 2005/6. But it has also been team dogged by the mediocre. Why on earth does the town wish to retain it? Attendances are dire, finances have been doubtful for more than few years. Hardly anyone is aware of fixtures let alone the results. It is far better to let the old club die. Any semblance of tradition or town pride in the club died years ago. It will not be missed.
Also on your assumption should the people of Portsmouth who have dropped even further let their club die? WFC is celebrating 125 years this season, does that not count for anything? The club is only 2 divisions from where it has played at its highest level and just this weekend had the highest home attendance in the league and the one above, so those clubs with lower attendances should be left to die as well? You may not miss it and doubt it would miss you and those who call for a merger clearly no nothing of tradition.
[quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caption Sensible[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: Only W&PBC would be so STUPID as to even remotely consider moving a football ground from the edge of an Industrial Estate where it benefits from excellent road access, to ... Wait for it! A residential area, adjacent to one the county's most important nature reserves, close to residential care homes and a hospice, a major tourist attraction and a major hotel. Road access is wholly inadequate. The ground on which it is proposed to build is contaminated... Can this appalling council get any more idiotic? Why does Weymouth even need a football club? Merge with Dorchester and have done with it. An excellent ground, superb road and rail access.[/p][/quote]You're not from Weymouth are you? A man that knew his local area history would know that Weymouth has a proud footballing pedigree in the non-league world. Only a few years ago they were good enough to draw with Nottingham Forest, at their stadium, in the FA Cup. They were founder members of the Conference and the only reason they could not gain election into the Football League was because the pitch at the Rec was not good enough. Sure things have taken a dip lately but they are on their way back up again. Dorchester is very much the junior club and Weymouth does not need to merge with them.[/p][/quote]On the contrary, I was born here. I was at school with Frank O'Farrell's daughter and he would visit the playground every now and then. I was taught to play football by Phil Stocker. I would regularly attend matches at the Rec. Weymouth has been a team with a chequered and sometimes inspirational past, even as recently as 2005/6. But it has also been team dogged by the mediocre. Why on earth does the town wish to retain it? Attendances are dire, finances have been doubtful for more than few years. Hardly anyone is aware of fixtures let alone the results. It is far better to let the old club die. Any semblance of tradition or town pride in the club died years ago. It will not be missed.[/p][/quote]Also on your assumption should the people of Portsmouth who have dropped even further let their club die? WFC is celebrating 125 years this season, does that not count for anything? The club is only 2 divisions from where it has played at its highest level and just this weekend had the highest home attendance in the league and the one above, so those clubs with lower attendances should be left to die as well? You may not miss it and doubt it would miss you and those who call for a merger clearly no nothing of tradition. PHonnor
  • Score: 6

8:11am Tue 12 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

We all know where you stand Sedwell don't worry.
We all know where you stand Sedwell don't worry. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 1

8:26am Tue 12 Aug 14

Genghis says...

mark@greenhill wrote:
TERRAloyal wrote:
Totallytopical wrote:
Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.
That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams.

Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes
Clubs have merged in the past and survived.
It's only the small town, small minded attitude of Football supporters in general that is the problem.
Simple minded territorial and tribal.
Too dim to realise the potential advantages that merging would bring.
As one club, the might stand a chance of actually making a name for themselves, and stop lurching from one financial crisis to the next, but will the supporters go for it, nah, they would rather both clubs remain Saturday afternoon irrelevances that leak money till they go broke.
Well you seem to have no interest in local football, so what's it to you whether people prefer to support their home town club? I have no desire in watching, or supporting, a team playing in Dorchester. I want to watch football in Weymouth. The emotional rollercoaster of supporting a team is so much more than what you propose, But then, in the modern world of armchair football fans, I can see why some think loyalty and being part of that ride is too much bother for them. Particularly when a button can be pressed and they can instantly transfer their attention to whoever is winning at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]mark@greenhill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TERRAloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Totallytopical[/bold] wrote: Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.[/p][/quote]That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams. Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes[/p][/quote]Clubs have merged in the past and survived. It's only the small town, small minded attitude of Football supporters in general that is the problem. Simple minded territorial and tribal. Too dim to realise the potential advantages that merging would bring. As one club, the might stand a chance of actually making a name for themselves, and stop lurching from one financial crisis to the next, but will the supporters go for it, nah, they would rather both clubs remain Saturday afternoon irrelevances that leak money till they go broke.[/p][/quote]Well you seem to have no interest in local football, so what's it to you whether people prefer to support their home town club? I have no desire in watching, or supporting, a team playing in Dorchester. I want to watch football in Weymouth. The emotional rollercoaster of supporting a team is so much more than what you propose, But then, in the modern world of armchair football fans, I can see why some think loyalty and being part of that ride is too much bother for them. Particularly when a button can be pressed and they can instantly transfer their attention to whoever is winning at the moment. Genghis
  • Score: 6

8:29am Tue 12 Aug 14

Phaedrus says...

Can we stick to the main issues? Weymouth and Dorchester FCs merging is not the issue and isn't going to happen, probably not ever and certainly not in the foreseeable future. Issue 1, is this a good place for a football stadium? It may be on bus routes but those are just from Weymouth centre, will it attract more people from Weymouth's main residential areas? I think not. And on just about every other criterion it is a bad place for the stadium. Issue 2, will it be good for the club? The great majority of us want to see the club continue and do well but I have heard no-one saying what a great opportunity this is for them. If it is in the wrong place and will probably have lower attendances, will the simple fact of being newer solve all the problems? Is there a better business plan for the club if it moves here? So far no-one seems to be enthusiastic or confident. Issue 3, will it be good for Weymouth? If it is bad for the club then it is bad for the town which needs more not fewer good local organisations for local people. This is a very valuable site, if it is to be developed at all there should be a wider discussion about all the options.
But: The planning issue will be decided by planning rules and the apparatchiks of the planning department seem already to be making it difficult for the councillors to say "No", and the club may also find their options severely limited. Everybody will lose, except of course... guess who? Oh and let's not forget those lucky terns who will get a new island. I do hope they like it.
Can we stick to the main issues? Weymouth and Dorchester FCs merging is not the issue and isn't going to happen, probably not ever and certainly not in the foreseeable future. Issue 1, is this a good place for a football stadium? It may be on bus routes but those are just from Weymouth centre, will it attract more people from Weymouth's main residential areas? I think not. And on just about every other criterion it is a bad place for the stadium. Issue 2, will it be good for the club? The great majority of us want to see the club continue and do well but I have heard no-one saying what a great opportunity this is for them. If it is in the wrong place and will probably have lower attendances, will the simple fact of being newer solve all the problems? Is there a better business plan for the club if it moves here? So far no-one seems to be enthusiastic or confident. Issue 3, will it be good for Weymouth? If it is bad for the club then it is bad for the town which needs more not fewer good local organisations for local people. This is a very valuable site, if it is to be developed at all there should be a wider discussion about all the options. But: The planning issue will be decided by planning rules and the apparatchiks of the planning department seem already to be making it difficult for the councillors to say "No", and the club may also find their options severely limited. Everybody will lose, except of course... guess who? Oh and let's not forget those lucky terns who will get a new island. I do hope they like it. Phaedrus
  • Score: 4

9:09am Tue 12 Aug 14

Techie says...

Phaedrus wrote:
Can we stick to the main issues? Weymouth and Dorchester FCs merging is not the issue and isn't going to happen, probably not ever and certainly not in the foreseeable future. Issue 1, is this a good place for a football stadium? It may be on bus routes but those are just from Weymouth centre, will it attract more people from Weymouth's main residential areas? I think not. And on just about every other criterion it is a bad place for the stadium. Issue 2, will it be good for the club? The great majority of us want to see the club continue and do well but I have heard no-one saying what a great opportunity this is for them. If it is in the wrong place and will probably have lower attendances, will the simple fact of being newer solve all the problems? Is there a better business plan for the club if it moves here? So far no-one seems to be enthusiastic or confident. Issue 3, will it be good for Weymouth? If it is bad for the club then it is bad for the town which needs more not fewer good local organisations for local people. This is a very valuable site, if it is to be developed at all there should be a wider discussion about all the options.
But: The planning issue will be decided by planning rules and the apparatchiks of the planning department seem already to be making it difficult for the councillors to say "No", and the club may also find their options severely limited. Everybody will lose, except of course... guess who? Oh and let's not forget those lucky terns who will get a new island. I do hope they like it.
Whether or not it is good for the club isn't something that can be easily (or possibly at all) debated at a planning committee - it's a commercial decision the club need to make. As I said upthread the planning committee can only consider the application within the material considerations of planning law.

The "apparatchiks" as you call them will have produced a report that contains a recommendation. That recommendation will relate to current and proposed local plan policies, legal precedent, case law and also the aforementioned material considerations. The committee can always choose to go against it, but the most likely consequence of that is the applicant appealing. An awful lot of appeals of this nature go on to succeed simply because the planning committee have made a decision that ignored some or all of the factors mentioned above - I am oversimplifying but that is the gist of it. It's expensive for local authorities to get this stuff wrong and that will also probably be something the committee will think about.
[quote][p][bold]Phaedrus[/bold] wrote: Can we stick to the main issues? Weymouth and Dorchester FCs merging is not the issue and isn't going to happen, probably not ever and certainly not in the foreseeable future. Issue 1, is this a good place for a football stadium? It may be on bus routes but those are just from Weymouth centre, will it attract more people from Weymouth's main residential areas? I think not. And on just about every other criterion it is a bad place for the stadium. Issue 2, will it be good for the club? The great majority of us want to see the club continue and do well but I have heard no-one saying what a great opportunity this is for them. If it is in the wrong place and will probably have lower attendances, will the simple fact of being newer solve all the problems? Is there a better business plan for the club if it moves here? So far no-one seems to be enthusiastic or confident. Issue 3, will it be good for Weymouth? If it is bad for the club then it is bad for the town which needs more not fewer good local organisations for local people. This is a very valuable site, if it is to be developed at all there should be a wider discussion about all the options. But: The planning issue will be decided by planning rules and the apparatchiks of the planning department seem already to be making it difficult for the councillors to say "No", and the club may also find their options severely limited. Everybody will lose, except of course... guess who? Oh and let's not forget those lucky terns who will get a new island. I do hope they like it.[/p][/quote]Whether or not it is good for the club isn't something that can be easily (or possibly at all) debated at a planning committee - it's a commercial decision the club need to make. As I said upthread the planning committee can only consider the application within the material considerations of planning law. The "apparatchiks" as you call them will have produced a report that contains a recommendation. That recommendation will relate to current and proposed local plan policies, legal precedent, case law and also the aforementioned material considerations. The committee can always choose to go against it, but the most likely consequence of that is the applicant appealing. An awful lot of appeals of this nature go on to succeed simply because the planning committee have made a decision that ignored some or all of the factors mentioned above - I am oversimplifying but that is the gist of it. It's expensive for local authorities to get this stuff wrong and that will also probably be something the committee will think about. Techie
  • Score: 4

9:43am Tue 12 Aug 14

Woodgate says...

Techie is right - this planning application should be decided purely on whether it meets planning policy and regulations but the council are unlikely to stand in the way of someone wanting to take a contaminated flood risk site off their hands. What location advantages are there over the current site?. The costs of buying the Lodmoor site, preparing it and all the fees will probably mean WFC ends up with a much lower standard new ground than they think they will get.
Techie is right - this planning application should be decided purely on whether it meets planning policy and regulations but the council are unlikely to stand in the way of someone wanting to take a contaminated flood risk site off their hands. What location advantages are there over the current site?. The costs of buying the Lodmoor site, preparing it and all the fees will probably mean WFC ends up with a much lower standard new ground than they think they will get. Woodgate
  • Score: 13

10:09am Tue 12 Aug 14

Genghis says...

Woodgate wrote:
Techie is right - this planning application should be decided purely on whether it meets planning policy and regulations but the council are unlikely to stand in the way of someone wanting to take a contaminated flood risk site off their hands. What location advantages are there over the current site?. The costs of buying the Lodmoor site, preparing it and all the fees will probably mean WFC ends up with a much lower standard new ground than they think they will get.
It's not Weymouth FC that is making the planning application, it's the developers. They need the land that is currently occupied by the Bob Lucas Stadium. So it's up to them to build something that will be fit for purpose. If it's not, then the football club are within their rights to say no to accepting it.
[quote][p][bold]Woodgate[/bold] wrote: Techie is right - this planning application should be decided purely on whether it meets planning policy and regulations but the council are unlikely to stand in the way of someone wanting to take a contaminated flood risk site off their hands. What location advantages are there over the current site?. The costs of buying the Lodmoor site, preparing it and all the fees will probably mean WFC ends up with a much lower standard new ground than they think they will get.[/p][/quote]It's not Weymouth FC that is making the planning application, it's the developers. They need the land that is currently occupied by the Bob Lucas Stadium. So it's up to them to build something that will be fit for purpose. If it's not, then the football club are within their rights to say no to accepting it. Genghis
  • Score: 4

10:21am Tue 12 Aug 14

iansedwell says...

The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065.
http://www.european-
football-statistics.
co.uk/attn/aveengnl.
htm

According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town.

It is dead. Move on.
The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065. http://www.european- football-statistics. co.uk/attn/aveengnl. htm According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town. It is dead. Move on. iansedwell
  • Score: 12

10:47am Tue 12 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

iansedwell wrote:
The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065.
http://www.european-

football-statistics.

co.uk/attn/aveengnl.

htm

According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town.

It is dead. Move on.
Oh you have the daggers out today, well your attendance at your concerts aren't that hot, and there will probably be even less this Sunday now. I was going to go to Party in the Park you can stuff it.
[quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065. http://www.european- football-statistics. co.uk/attn/aveengnl. htm According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town. It is dead. Move on.[/p][/quote]Oh you have the daggers out today, well your attendance at your concerts aren't that hot, and there will probably be even less this Sunday now. I was going to go to Party in the Park you can stuff it. MrTomSmith
  • Score: -11

10:50am Tue 12 Aug 14

Schrodinger's Cat says...

523? Crikey. That's even less than the number of people who vote for the average "idiot" councillor!
523? Crikey. That's even less than the number of people who vote for the average "idiot" councillor! Schrodinger's Cat
  • Score: -8

11:00am Tue 12 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

Schrodinger's Cat wrote:
523? Crikey. That's even less than the number of people who vote for the average "idiot" councillor!
Well you can play with figures all day, 725 on Saturday was 200 more than Hereford so............at least we go and support our local team. Not like tuneless sedwell
[quote][p][bold]Schrodinger's Cat[/bold] wrote: 523? Crikey. That's even less than the number of people who vote for the average "idiot" councillor![/p][/quote]Well you can play with figures all day, 725 on Saturday was 200 more than Hereford so............at least we go and support our local team. Not like tuneless sedwell MrTomSmith
  • Score: -7

11:09am Tue 12 Aug 14

PHonnor says...

iansedwell wrote:
The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065. http://www.european- football-statistics. co.uk/attn/aveengnl. htm According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town. It is dead. Move on.
What is your problem, did you get picked last when playing football at school or something? All of Weymouth benefits from having a football club, the money spent in the pubs, B&B's, taxis etc. Some clubs do travel with hundreds of supporters who all spend money in the town and the higher up the leagues you go the more travel. What other regular event attracts 100's of locals in one place, none.
[quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065. http://www.european- football-statistics. co.uk/attn/aveengnl. htm According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town. It is dead. Move on.[/p][/quote]What is your problem, did you get picked last when playing football at school or something? All of Weymouth benefits from having a football club, the money spent in the pubs, B&B's, taxis etc. Some clubs do travel with hundreds of supporters who all spend money in the town and the higher up the leagues you go the more travel. What other regular event attracts 100's of locals in one place, none. PHonnor
  • Score: -9

11:54am Tue 12 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

So now we have a pretty good idea that Sedwell has 3 accounts. Well done mate, obviously not got enough to do.
So now we have a pretty good idea that Sedwell has 3 accounts. Well done mate, obviously not got enough to do. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 0

12:03pm Tue 12 Aug 14

weypaul says...

iansedwell wrote:
The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065.
http://www.european-

football-statistics.

co.uk/attn/aveengnl.

htm

According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town.

It is dead. Move on.
Your maths are not too strong. It is actually 1%, not .01%.

You have always been a berk but you are excelling yourself today
[quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065. http://www.european- football-statistics. co.uk/attn/aveengnl. htm According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town. It is dead. Move on.[/p][/quote]Your maths are not too strong. It is actually 1%, not .01%. You have always been a berk but you are excelling yourself today weypaul
  • Score: 1

12:08pm Tue 12 Aug 14

mark@greenhill says...

Genghis wrote:
mark@greenhill wrote:
TERRAloyal wrote:
Totallytopical wrote:
Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.
That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams.

Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes
Clubs have merged in the past and survived.
It's only the small town, small minded attitude of Football supporters in general that is the problem.
Simple minded territorial and tribal.
Too dim to realise the potential advantages that merging would bring.
As one club, the might stand a chance of actually making a name for themselves, and stop lurching from one financial crisis to the next, but will the supporters go for it, nah, they would rather both clubs remain Saturday afternoon irrelevances that leak money till they go broke.
Well you seem to have no interest in local football, so what's it to you whether people prefer to support their home town club? I have no desire in watching, or supporting, a team playing in Dorchester. I want to watch football in Weymouth. The emotional rollercoaster of supporting a team is so much more than what you propose, But then, in the modern world of armchair football fans, I can see why some think loyalty and being part of that ride is too much bother for them. Particularly when a button can be pressed and they can instantly transfer their attention to whoever is winning at the moment.
In one sentence, you have proved exactly why football supporters get the reputation they have.
Small town minded, and so tribal they are incapable of seeing the potential for becoming a larger club.
The simple facts are that not enough people in this town or Dorchester, care enough about the mediocre amateur game played at either ground, to support a new stadium, and it should, as already stated, be left to die a natural death.
Merging the 2 clubs is potentially both clubs only chance of attracting even enough gate receipts to break even.
[quote][p][bold]Genghis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark@greenhill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TERRAloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Totallytopical[/bold] wrote: Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.[/p][/quote]That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams. Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes[/p][/quote]Clubs have merged in the past and survived. It's only the small town, small minded attitude of Football supporters in general that is the problem. Simple minded territorial and tribal. Too dim to realise the potential advantages that merging would bring. As one club, the might stand a chance of actually making a name for themselves, and stop lurching from one financial crisis to the next, but will the supporters go for it, nah, they would rather both clubs remain Saturday afternoon irrelevances that leak money till they go broke.[/p][/quote]Well you seem to have no interest in local football, so what's it to you whether people prefer to support their home town club? I have no desire in watching, or supporting, a team playing in Dorchester. I want to watch football in Weymouth. The emotional rollercoaster of supporting a team is so much more than what you propose, But then, in the modern world of armchair football fans, I can see why some think loyalty and being part of that ride is too much bother for them. Particularly when a button can be pressed and they can instantly transfer their attention to whoever is winning at the moment.[/p][/quote]In one sentence, you have proved exactly why football supporters get the reputation they have. Small town minded, and so tribal they are incapable of seeing the potential for becoming a larger club. The simple facts are that not enough people in this town or Dorchester, care enough about the mediocre amateur game played at either ground, to support a new stadium, and it should, as already stated, be left to die a natural death. Merging the 2 clubs is potentially both clubs only chance of attracting even enough gate receipts to break even. mark@greenhill
  • Score: 3

12:34pm Tue 12 Aug 14

PHonnor says...

weypaul wrote:
iansedwell wrote: The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065. http://www.european- football-statistics. co.uk/attn/aveengnl. htm According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town. It is dead. Move on.
Your maths are not too strong. It is actually 1%, not .01%. You have always been a berk but you are excelling yourself today
After a Little research it seem our friend lives at Greenhill so has a vested interest in the location of the new stadium, I guess with the attendance numbers he is quoting he will have nothing to worry about!
[quote][p][bold]weypaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065. http://www.european- football-statistics. co.uk/attn/aveengnl. htm According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town. It is dead. Move on.[/p][/quote]Your maths are not too strong. It is actually 1%, not .01%. You have always been a berk but you are excelling yourself today[/p][/quote]After a Little research it seem our friend lives at Greenhill so has a vested interest in the location of the new stadium, I guess with the attendance numbers he is quoting he will have nothing to worry about! PHonnor
  • Score: -2

1:00pm Tue 12 Aug 14

sweetdreamgirl says...

Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times.
Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away.
Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times. Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away. sweetdreamgirl
  • Score: 0

1:03pm Tue 12 Aug 14

mark@greenhill says...

sweetdreamgirl wrote:
Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times.
Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away.
As their normal gate, would not fill a First Town bus, I doubt you will have too much disruption?
[quote][p][bold]sweetdreamgirl[/bold] wrote: Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times. Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away.[/p][/quote]As their normal gate, would not fill a First Town bus, I doubt you will have too much disruption? mark@greenhill
  • Score: -1

1:06pm Tue 12 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

sweetdreamgirl wrote:
Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times.
Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away.
Yes but only between 2.15pm and 2.45pm and 4.50pm and 5.15pm every other Saturday. Not like really clogging up the bus system is it? Tuesday Nights might be a few, not many I wouldn't think.
[quote][p][bold]sweetdreamgirl[/bold] wrote: Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times. Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away.[/p][/quote]Yes but only between 2.15pm and 2.45pm and 4.50pm and 5.15pm every other Saturday. Not like really clogging up the bus system is it? Tuesday Nights might be a few, not many I wouldn't think. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 2

1:09pm Tue 12 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

mark@greenhill wrote:
sweetdreamgirl wrote:
Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times.
Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away.
As their normal gate, would not fill a First Town bus, I doubt you will have too much disruption?
Yes keep trolling, but really just try please and say something that remotely is close to the truth or makes sense and someone might take you seriously. At the moment you sound like a desperate schoolboy looking for attention.
Or at the very least be funny, that would help a bit.
[quote][p][bold]mark@greenhill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetdreamgirl[/bold] wrote: Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times. Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away.[/p][/quote]As their normal gate, would not fill a First Town bus, I doubt you will have too much disruption?[/p][/quote]Yes keep trolling, but really just try please and say something that remotely is close to the truth or makes sense and someone might take you seriously. At the moment you sound like a desperate schoolboy looking for attention. Or at the very least be funny, that would help a bit. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 2

1:15pm Tue 12 Aug 14

mark@greenhill says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
mark@greenhill wrote:
sweetdreamgirl wrote:
Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times.
Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away.
As their normal gate, would not fill a First Town bus, I doubt you will have too much disruption?
Yes keep trolling, but really just try please and say something that remotely is close to the truth or makes sense and someone might take you seriously. At the moment you sound like a desperate schoolboy looking for attention.
Or at the very least be funny, that would help a bit.
The search is over...... I found their supporter
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark@greenhill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetdreamgirl[/bold] wrote: Oh great so the number 4 bus I use will not only be overflowing with visitors in the summer we'll also have football fans filling them other times. Getting pushed to one side as a resident,maybe the easy option is to move away.[/p][/quote]As their normal gate, would not fill a First Town bus, I doubt you will have too much disruption?[/p][/quote]Yes keep trolling, but really just try please and say something that remotely is close to the truth or makes sense and someone might take you seriously. At the moment you sound like a desperate schoolboy looking for attention. Or at the very least be funny, that would help a bit.[/p][/quote]The search is over...... I found their supporter mark@greenhill
  • Score: -4

1:41pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Techie says...

The 2012/13 average gate was 626 according to the planning application; presumably this figure goes up and down very few years. There is of course a case to be made that a more central and accessible ground could increase the gate numbers. The business plan suggests that new grounds themselves can increase gate numbers:

"There is a direct correlation between team performance and match attendance as there is for new stadiums and the increase in attendances. Across the UK where new stadiums have been built there has been a significant increase in attendances. The study has identified a range between +17% and +302%, with an average of 48% for football. In the majority of cases, that increase is sustained."

The Echo website will mess this link up like it does all the others, but the business case is worth a read: http://bit.ly/1sMNTD
6
The 2012/13 average gate was 626 according to the planning application; presumably this figure goes up and down very few years. There is of course a case to be made that a more central and accessible ground could increase the gate numbers. The business plan suggests that new grounds themselves can increase gate numbers: "There is a direct correlation between team performance and match attendance as there is for new stadiums and the increase in attendances. Across the UK where new stadiums have been built there has been a significant increase in attendances. The study has identified a range between +17% and +302%, with an average of 48% for football. In the majority of cases, that increase is sustained." The Echo website will mess this link up like it does all the others, but the business case is worth a read: http://bit.ly/1sMNTD 6 Techie
  • Score: 5

2:54pm Tue 12 Aug 14

JACKC says...

Schrodinger's Cat wrote:
523? Crikey. That's even less than the number of people who vote for the average "idiot" councillor!
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
[quote][p][bold]Schrodinger's Cat[/bold] wrote: 523? Crikey. That's even less than the number of people who vote for the average "idiot" councillor![/p][/quote]IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! JACKC
  • Score: 2

4:13pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Loobs1 says...

So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.
So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this. Loobs1
  • Score: 12

4:34pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Phaedrus says...

Techie, I was not suggesting that the question of whether the Lodmoor site would be good for the football club should be debated at a planning committee, but I do think it a good question for the debate on this page. I do know somewhat of how the planning process works and it would be nice if the good of the town was important rather than just what meets planning guidelines. Likewise, it would be a shame if the football club were effectively forced to accept Lodmoor, though that of course is as you suggest not an issue for the planning committee either. But at least we can have our say here.
Techie, I was not suggesting that the question of whether the Lodmoor site would be good for the football club should be debated at a planning committee, but I do think it a good question for the debate on this page. I do know somewhat of how the planning process works and it would be nice if the good of the town was important rather than just what meets planning guidelines. Likewise, it would be a shame if the football club were effectively forced to accept Lodmoor, though that of course is as you suggest not an issue for the planning committee either. But at least we can have our say here. Phaedrus
  • Score: 5

4:34pm Tue 12 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

Loobs1 wrote:
So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.
You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.
[quote][p][bold]Loobs1[/bold] wrote: So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.[/p][/quote]You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 13

6:21pm Tue 12 Aug 14

JamesYoung says...

It's fascinating that most people in this country can't be arsed to vote, but mention football and it's on the first page of the comments section in minutes.
It's fascinating that most people in this country can't be arsed to vote, but mention football and it's on the first page of the comments section in minutes. JamesYoung
  • Score: 4

7:12pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Genghis says...

mark@greenhill wrote:
Genghis wrote:
mark@greenhill wrote:
TERRAloyal wrote:
Totallytopical wrote:
Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.
That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams.

Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes
Clubs have merged in the past and survived.
It's only the small town, small minded attitude of Football supporters in general that is the problem.
Simple minded territorial and tribal.
Too dim to realise the potential advantages that merging would bring.
As one club, the might stand a chance of actually making a name for themselves, and stop lurching from one financial crisis to the next, but will the supporters go for it, nah, they would rather both clubs remain Saturday afternoon irrelevances that leak money till they go broke.
Well you seem to have no interest in local football, so what's it to you whether people prefer to support their home town club? I have no desire in watching, or supporting, a team playing in Dorchester. I want to watch football in Weymouth. The emotional rollercoaster of supporting a team is so much more than what you propose, But then, in the modern world of armchair football fans, I can see why some think loyalty and being part of that ride is too much bother for them. Particularly when a button can be pressed and they can instantly transfer their attention to whoever is winning at the moment.
In one sentence, you have proved exactly why football supporters get the reputation they have.
Small town minded, and so tribal they are incapable of seeing the potential for becoming a larger club.
The simple facts are that not enough people in this town or Dorchester, care enough about the mediocre amateur game played at either ground, to support a new stadium, and it should, as already stated, be left to die a natural death.
Merging the 2 clubs is potentially both clubs only chance of attracting even enough gate receipts to break even.
No, I just enjoy watching football in Weymouth, at whatever level. That's what supporting a team is about. You stick to your armchair and merging teams on FIFA-whatever-year, I'll carry on watching my team in the real world. And in Weymouth.
[quote][p][bold]mark@greenhill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Genghis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark@greenhill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TERRAloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Totallytopical[/bold] wrote: Weymouth and Dorchester. two piffling little clubs. Why don't they just merge, put themselves on a sound financial footing and move the whole shebang to the modernish ground in Dorchester. Anyone would think we were talking top sport here. It's all about money, money money.[/p][/quote]That's the true comment of a person who probably dosen't follow football that much or know the football fans mentality. If you merged the two clubs the one club would just die, because if it was in Dorchester the people of Weymouth wouldn't support it, and visa versa. I couldn't support any team that bore the name of that place over the hill. I'd be willing to bet both sets of fans would reform their own clubs, so you'd end up with 3 teams. Ludicrous idea. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes[/p][/quote]Clubs have merged in the past and survived. It's only the small town, small minded attitude of Football supporters in general that is the problem. Simple minded territorial and tribal. Too dim to realise the potential advantages that merging would bring. As one club, the might stand a chance of actually making a name for themselves, and stop lurching from one financial crisis to the next, but will the supporters go for it, nah, they would rather both clubs remain Saturday afternoon irrelevances that leak money till they go broke.[/p][/quote]Well you seem to have no interest in local football, so what's it to you whether people prefer to support their home town club? I have no desire in watching, or supporting, a team playing in Dorchester. I want to watch football in Weymouth. The emotional rollercoaster of supporting a team is so much more than what you propose, But then, in the modern world of armchair football fans, I can see why some think loyalty and being part of that ride is too much bother for them. Particularly when a button can be pressed and they can instantly transfer their attention to whoever is winning at the moment.[/p][/quote]In one sentence, you have proved exactly why football supporters get the reputation they have. Small town minded, and so tribal they are incapable of seeing the potential for becoming a larger club. The simple facts are that not enough people in this town or Dorchester, care enough about the mediocre amateur game played at either ground, to support a new stadium, and it should, as already stated, be left to die a natural death. Merging the 2 clubs is potentially both clubs only chance of attracting even enough gate receipts to break even.[/p][/quote]No, I just enjoy watching football in Weymouth, at whatever level. That's what supporting a team is about. You stick to your armchair and merging teams on FIFA-whatever-year, I'll carry on watching my team in the real world. And in Weymouth. Genghis
  • Score: 6

7:19pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Genghis says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
iansedwell wrote:
The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065.
http://www.european-


football-statistics.


co.uk/attn/aveengnl.


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According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town.

It is dead. Move on.
Oh you have the daggers out today, well your attendance at your concerts aren't that hot, and there will probably be even less this Sunday now. I was going to go to Party in the Park you can stuff it.
Perhaps he can get some help from mark@greenhill and merge all the bands into an orchestra. It would then, potentially,have more chance of attracting larger crowds and be less tribal and small town minded.
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065. http://www.european- football-statistics. co.uk/attn/aveengnl. htm According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town. It is dead. Move on.[/p][/quote]Oh you have the daggers out today, well your attendance at your concerts aren't that hot, and there will probably be even less this Sunday now. I was going to go to Party in the Park you can stuff it.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he can get some help from mark@greenhill and merge all the bands into an orchestra. It would then, potentially,have more chance of attracting larger crowds and be less tribal and small town minded. Genghis
  • Score: 3

7:59pm Tue 12 Aug 14

melcombe boy says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
Loobs1 wrote:
So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.
You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.
Building a football club in front of a tip is madness?
Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness.
Your post stinks of prejudice!
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Loobs1[/bold] wrote: So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.[/p][/quote]You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.[/p][/quote]Building a football club in front of a tip is madness? Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness. Your post stinks of prejudice! melcombe boy
  • Score: -4

8:43pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

melcombe boy wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Loobs1 wrote:
So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.
You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.
Building a football club in front of a tip is madness?
Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness.
Your post stinks of prejudice!
The bird sanctuary was effectively there long before braindead, soulless councillors ever thought of tastelessly using half of it for a rubbish tip. I understand morons have been doing this all over the world for centuries. Once-beautiful marshland in New Jersey, USA, has been ruined by municipal tipping - probably from NY City. London was built on marshland, as, I believe, was Venice and Leningrad - to name but a few. Had this not been so, we would now be able to enjoy at least 1,000 times more waterbirds on the planet !! You have to realise, life is NOT all about YOU and YOUR aberrant chimpanzee species - OTHER Animals have the right to live here, too !! Also, life is about more than mere brute filling of stomachs - there is the spirit to consider, too, which also needs satisfying. In England that spiritual fulfilment is best found on marshes, heaths and chalk downlands, as well as in woods and beneath the waves, observing Nature. Indeed, without Nature, what else is there in life that's worth a **** ??!! And as for the spurious claim that we 'NEED' more houses locally - would this be for the LOCAL younger generation to occupy, or is it for well-heeled incomers who first saw the place as touristas years ago, and now want to settle here ?? WHY would anyone want to come to live in Weymouth ?? I can think of two reasons only - to enjoy the Wildlife, and to enjoy the Wildlife under the sea. There is clearly no CULTURE here to attract all these superfluous incomers - the Royal Albert Hall is in London - as are all the major art galleries, museums and opera-houses, so it certainly can't be that !!
And I'm sure mine can't be the ONLY functional and imaginative mind that realises you can't just keep ON building more and more houses to meet demand INDEFINITELY - you have a limited amount of land in the UK, and that must be FAIRLY shared with all those 'non-chimps' who have actually lived here longer than we have. Seventy thousand people would be about right, for a 185 lb primate in a cuntry of our size - a figure that has been attested to by several scientists. Unfortunately, if we GINKS (Green Inclinations - No Kids) succeeded in spreading our vital message to the selfish 'me, me, ME!!' lot, then eventually the only remaining chimps would be the selfish ones who think it socially and ecologically acceptable to breed more than just the once. And what's the betting that those in favor of degrading The Jewel of Weymouth (Lodmoor) with such a worthless concept as a football stadium, are, almost to a man, multiple breeders ?? Radipole Lake, the other Jewel of Weymouth, has already been degraded from a hominid point of view, by that GHASTLY 'Weymouth Way', with its incessant, insanely howling traffic - which was, not so long ago, an innocent flinty track. Radipole Park Drive once saw a car about every other minute - NOW it's about 50 per minute !! Wakey, wakey, people - you can't go on like this ad infinitum, the planet will remain its present size and mass - it won't expand to keep pace with the idiocies of the mindless, trust me !!
[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Loobs1[/bold] wrote: So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.[/p][/quote]You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.[/p][/quote]Building a football club in front of a tip is madness? Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness. Your post stinks of prejudice![/p][/quote]The bird sanctuary was effectively there long before braindead, soulless councillors ever thought of tastelessly using half of it for a rubbish tip. I understand morons have been doing this all over the world for centuries. Once-beautiful marshland in New Jersey, USA, has been ruined by municipal tipping - probably from NY City. London was built on marshland, as, I believe, was Venice and Leningrad - to name but a few. Had this not been so, we would now be able to enjoy at least 1,000 times more waterbirds on the planet !! You have to realise, life is NOT all about YOU and YOUR aberrant chimpanzee species - OTHER Animals have the right to live here, too !! Also, life is about more than mere brute filling of stomachs - there is the spirit to consider, too, which also needs satisfying. In England that spiritual fulfilment is best found on marshes, heaths and chalk downlands, as well as in woods and beneath the waves, observing Nature. Indeed, without Nature, what else is there in life that's worth a **** ??!! And as for the spurious claim that we 'NEED' more houses locally - would this be for the LOCAL younger generation to occupy, or is it for well-heeled incomers who first saw the place as touristas years ago, and now want to settle here ?? WHY would anyone want to come to live in Weymouth ?? I can think of two reasons only - to enjoy the Wildlife, and to enjoy the Wildlife under the sea. There is clearly no CULTURE here to attract all these superfluous incomers - the Royal Albert Hall is in London - as are all the major art galleries, museums and opera-houses, so it certainly can't be that !! And I'm sure mine can't be the ONLY functional and imaginative mind that realises you can't just keep ON building more and more houses to meet demand INDEFINITELY - you have a limited amount of land in the UK, and that must be FAIRLY shared with all those 'non-chimps' who have actually lived here longer than we have. Seventy thousand people would be about right, for a 185 lb primate in a cuntry of our size - a figure that has been attested to by several scientists. Unfortunately, if we GINKS (Green Inclinations - No Kids) succeeded in spreading our vital message to the selfish 'me, me, ME!!' lot, then eventually the only remaining chimps would be the selfish ones who think it socially and ecologically acceptable to breed more than just the once. And what's the betting that those in favor of degrading The Jewel of Weymouth (Lodmoor) with such a worthless concept as a football stadium, are, almost to a man, multiple breeders ?? Radipole Lake, the other Jewel of Weymouth, has already been degraded from a hominid point of view, by that GHASTLY 'Weymouth Way', with its incessant, insanely howling traffic - which was, not so long ago, an innocent flinty track. Radipole Park Drive once saw a car about every other minute - NOW it's about 50 per minute !! Wakey, wakey, people - you can't go on like this ad infinitum, the planet will remain its present size and mass - it won't expand to keep pace with the idiocies of the mindless, trust me !! Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: 0

9:34pm Tue 12 Aug 14

melcombe boy says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
melcombe boy wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Loobs1 wrote:
So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.
You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.
Building a football club in front of a tip is madness?
Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness.
Your post stinks of prejudice!
The bird sanctuary was effectively there long before braindead, soulless councillors ever thought of tastelessly using half of it for a rubbish tip. I understand morons have been doing this all over the world for centuries. Once-beautiful marshland in New Jersey, USA, has been ruined by municipal tipping - probably from NY City. London was built on marshland, as, I believe, was Venice and Leningrad - to name but a few. Had this not been so, we would now be able to enjoy at least 1,000 times more waterbirds on the planet !! You have to realise, life is NOT all about YOU and YOUR aberrant chimpanzee species - OTHER Animals have the right to live here, too !! Also, life is about more than mere brute filling of stomachs - there is the spirit to consider, too, which also needs satisfying. In England that spiritual fulfilment is best found on marshes, heaths and chalk downlands, as well as in woods and beneath the waves, observing Nature. Indeed, without Nature, what else is there in life that's worth a **** ??!! And as for the spurious claim that we 'NEED' more houses locally - would this be for the LOCAL younger generation to occupy, or is it for well-heeled incomers who first saw the place as touristas years ago, and now want to settle here ?? WHY would anyone want to come to live in Weymouth ?? I can think of two reasons only - to enjoy the Wildlife, and to enjoy the Wildlife under the sea. There is clearly no CULTURE here to attract all these superfluous incomers - the Royal Albert Hall is in London - as are all the major art galleries, museums and opera-houses, so it certainly can't be that !!
And I'm sure mine can't be the ONLY functional and imaginative mind that realises you can't just keep ON building more and more houses to meet demand INDEFINITELY - you have a limited amount of land in the UK, and that must be FAIRLY shared with all those 'non-chimps' who have actually lived here longer than we have. Seventy thousand people would be about right, for a 185 lb primate in a cuntry of our size - a figure that has been attested to by several scientists. Unfortunately, if we GINKS (Green Inclinations - No Kids) succeeded in spreading our vital message to the selfish 'me, me, ME!!' lot, then eventually the only remaining chimps would be the selfish ones who think it socially and ecologically acceptable to breed more than just the once. And what's the betting that those in favor of degrading The Jewel of Weymouth (Lodmoor) with such a worthless concept as a football stadium, are, almost to a man, multiple breeders ?? Radipole Lake, the other Jewel of Weymouth, has already been degraded from a hominid point of view, by that GHASTLY 'Weymouth Way', with its incessant, insanely howling traffic - which was, not so long ago, an innocent flinty track. Radipole Park Drive once saw a car about every other minute - NOW it's about 50 per minute !! Wakey, wakey, people - you can't go on like this ad infinitum, the planet will remain its present size and mass - it won't expand to keep pace with the idiocies of the mindless, trust me !!
We have rights as well.

I agree on some points but your way too militant in your views.

One little point. If you protect and conserve natural habitats too much you strangle and stop evolution from taking place.That in itself is criminal! Without evolution and species adapting to new and emerging habitats you would never of had the depth and variation of different plants and animals that currently exist.
Maybe it is also mindless to resist change. Nature is far more powerful than your over the top bleating or any person on the planet. She will adapt and survive without human intervention.

Not for one minute do I think man will last for ever. We are indeed intent on self destruction and the natural law of nature will replace us with some thing else at the top of the chain.

So shut up and let us have a football stadium. It is a healthy past time and brings joy to thousands of us locals with minimal damage to our precious planet.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Loobs1[/bold] wrote: So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.[/p][/quote]You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.[/p][/quote]Building a football club in front of a tip is madness? Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness. Your post stinks of prejudice![/p][/quote]The bird sanctuary was effectively there long before braindead, soulless councillors ever thought of tastelessly using half of it for a rubbish tip. I understand morons have been doing this all over the world for centuries. Once-beautiful marshland in New Jersey, USA, has been ruined by municipal tipping - probably from NY City. London was built on marshland, as, I believe, was Venice and Leningrad - to name but a few. Had this not been so, we would now be able to enjoy at least 1,000 times more waterbirds on the planet !! You have to realise, life is NOT all about YOU and YOUR aberrant chimpanzee species - OTHER Animals have the right to live here, too !! Also, life is about more than mere brute filling of stomachs - there is the spirit to consider, too, which also needs satisfying. In England that spiritual fulfilment is best found on marshes, heaths and chalk downlands, as well as in woods and beneath the waves, observing Nature. Indeed, without Nature, what else is there in life that's worth a **** ??!! And as for the spurious claim that we 'NEED' more houses locally - would this be for the LOCAL younger generation to occupy, or is it for well-heeled incomers who first saw the place as touristas years ago, and now want to settle here ?? WHY would anyone want to come to live in Weymouth ?? I can think of two reasons only - to enjoy the Wildlife, and to enjoy the Wildlife under the sea. There is clearly no CULTURE here to attract all these superfluous incomers - the Royal Albert Hall is in London - as are all the major art galleries, museums and opera-houses, so it certainly can't be that !! And I'm sure mine can't be the ONLY functional and imaginative mind that realises you can't just keep ON building more and more houses to meet demand INDEFINITELY - you have a limited amount of land in the UK, and that must be FAIRLY shared with all those 'non-chimps' who have actually lived here longer than we have. Seventy thousand people would be about right, for a 185 lb primate in a cuntry of our size - a figure that has been attested to by several scientists. Unfortunately, if we GINKS (Green Inclinations - No Kids) succeeded in spreading our vital message to the selfish 'me, me, ME!!' lot, then eventually the only remaining chimps would be the selfish ones who think it socially and ecologically acceptable to breed more than just the once. And what's the betting that those in favor of degrading The Jewel of Weymouth (Lodmoor) with such a worthless concept as a football stadium, are, almost to a man, multiple breeders ?? Radipole Lake, the other Jewel of Weymouth, has already been degraded from a hominid point of view, by that GHASTLY 'Weymouth Way', with its incessant, insanely howling traffic - which was, not so long ago, an innocent flinty track. Radipole Park Drive once saw a car about every other minute - NOW it's about 50 per minute !! Wakey, wakey, people - you can't go on like this ad infinitum, the planet will remain its present size and mass - it won't expand to keep pace with the idiocies of the mindless, trust me !![/p][/quote]We have rights as well. I agree on some points but your way too militant in your views. One little point. If you protect and conserve natural habitats too much you strangle and stop evolution from taking place.That in itself is criminal! Without evolution and species adapting to new and emerging habitats you would never of had the depth and variation of different plants and animals that currently exist. Maybe it is also mindless to resist change. Nature is far more powerful than your over the top bleating or any person on the planet. She will adapt and survive without human intervention. Not for one minute do I think man will last for ever. We are indeed intent on self destruction and the natural law of nature will replace us with some thing else at the top of the chain. So shut up and let us have a football stadium. It is a healthy past time and brings joy to thousands of us locals with minimal damage to our precious planet. melcombe boy
  • Score: 5

12:44am Wed 13 Aug 14

greentangerine says...

Maybe I'm missing something here (and I don't follow any football team, locally or nationally so I have no interest specifically about Weymouth' s situation) but it struck me as odd from the start that a developer apparently puts forward a planning application for land in Lodmoor that it doesn't own. You'd imagine therefore that said developer would have been in negotiation with the owners (which appears to be WDDC - correct me if I'm wrong) to purchase said land and then it doesn't take too much thought or imagination to see why WDDC are so keen for their own planning dept. to let this through at this particular site when it would seem there are several more suitable ones wrt. transport links, environmental impact available. Please no comments about independent processes within the council free from influence; nobody is that naive.
Maybe I'm missing something here (and I don't follow any football team, locally or nationally so I have no interest specifically about Weymouth' s situation) but it struck me as odd from the start that a developer apparently puts forward a planning application for land in Lodmoor that it doesn't own. You'd imagine therefore that said developer would have been in negotiation with the owners (which appears to be WDDC - correct me if I'm wrong) to purchase said land and then it doesn't take too much thought or imagination to see why WDDC are so keen for their own planning dept. to let this through at this particular site when it would seem there are several more suitable ones wrt. transport links, environmental impact available. Please no comments about independent processes within the council free from influence; nobody is that naive. greentangerine
  • Score: 6

12:55am Wed 13 Aug 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

Nature is the most fascinating and intellectually stimulating subject there is - so WHY do people hate it so much ??
Gardens are never even allowed to look natural - you MUST have bare, sterile earth, with evenly-spaced foreign/cultivated flowers. You DESPISE native Europan plants, dismissing them as 'weeds' - yet they are light-years more beautiful than garishly overstated flowers bought from a garden center. Most gardeners, being ignorant, will probably be unaware that virtually EVERY Satyrid butterfly (ie: the Browns) lays its eggs on long grasses, so cut your grass in Summer - no browns next year. No Speckled Woods, Gatekeepers, Meadow Browns, Small Heaths or Wall Browns.
Football, second most idiotic ballgame after golf, was supposed to be illegal to play OR watch (why would anyone watch it - I'D even quickly get bored watching pistol shooting, skeet, rifle shooting or archery. I even find cycling a bit boring to watch !!), according to laws still on the statute books - males of adult years are supposed to spend any free time after serving their TORY masters by practicing with the longbow - a sport that has some PRACTICAL use, unlike anything involving balls !!
I am also disgusted at chimps NEVER being satisfied with the land they've stolen from Nature - they ALWAYS want more, and won't be happy until everything bears the scars of the clothed ape from afrika. The sooner our vermin species does the decent thing and becomes extinct, the better. Sir David describes us as a PLAGUE, I describe us as GIGAvermin (we crossed the boundary into vermin as soon as our world numbers exceeded a million.) Before WE came on the scene, there were Lions in the South of France, Greece and other parts of Southern Europa - NOW the remaining 35,000 or so are restricted to a few isolated pockets across afrika. And as for militant, I would remind you of John Aspinall's closing words in his 'Credo': 'When a system is facing extreme pressures, only extreme counter-pressures are relevant, let alone likely to prove effective. Those who subscribe to these testaments must stand up and be counted. What friends Nature has, Nature needs.'
Just listen to yourselves - implying that a mere childish GAME with a BALL is of greater importance than the most important thing of all - NATURE. And the sheer ARROGANCE of dismissing as 'WASTE LAND' any little piece of real estate that is currently unused by we vile and despicable clothed chimps !! You can't GET any more selfishly arrogant than that !! But then, look at your elected leaders - both David CaMORON and his winger, Nick Clegg, have said that deluded hominid 'religious' customs must take precedence over any Animal welfare issues. They were speaking, of course, about halal meat - a problem that won't bother me, since I've evolved beyond corpse-munching in this 21st century - have you ??
The reason we HAVE to conserve Nature is simply because there's so little of it left. Agreed, Nature Reserves would not be necessary if OUR numbers were at least 7,000 times smaller than they are, but we couldn't even manage THAT one, could we ?? - even after the great thinker, Plato, suggested, about 3,000 years ago, that only the finest specimens should be allowed to breed. As ever, the undiscerning lower orders value quantity before quality every time, and so we are now witnessing the Great Dying. Our TORIES are even allowing the amerikan TORIES to spew their cancerous GM crops on us - something banned from Paris to Moscow because it involves biocides, which kill insects, thereby killing our birds, bats and lizards. You need to know what the REAL score is around the world before criticizing those who DO !! When I see some of YOU posting, as I do, on 'social media', such comments as: 'For Earth's sake, Monsanto MUST die - You KNOW it makes sense !!!!', then I'll know my worries are over. As it is, chimp overpopulation has cast a dark cloud over my life since the age of 11 - 62 years ago !!
Nature is the most fascinating and intellectually stimulating subject there is - so WHY do people hate it so much ?? Gardens are never even allowed to look natural - you MUST have bare, sterile earth, with evenly-spaced foreign/cultivated flowers. You DESPISE native Europan plants, dismissing them as 'weeds' - yet they are light-years more beautiful than garishly overstated flowers bought from a garden center. Most gardeners, being ignorant, will probably be unaware that virtually EVERY Satyrid butterfly (ie: the Browns) lays its eggs on long grasses, so cut your grass in Summer - no browns next year. No Speckled Woods, Gatekeepers, Meadow Browns, Small Heaths or Wall Browns. Football, second most idiotic ballgame after golf, was supposed to be illegal to play OR watch (why would anyone watch it - I'D even quickly get bored watching pistol shooting, skeet, rifle shooting or archery. I even find cycling a bit boring to watch !!), according to laws still on the statute books - males of adult years are supposed to spend any free time after serving their TORY masters by practicing with the longbow - a sport that has some PRACTICAL use, unlike anything involving balls !! I am also disgusted at chimps NEVER being satisfied with the land they've stolen from Nature - they ALWAYS want more, and won't be happy until everything bears the scars of the clothed ape from afrika. The sooner our vermin species does the decent thing and becomes extinct, the better. Sir David describes us as a PLAGUE, I describe us as GIGAvermin (we crossed the boundary into vermin as soon as our world numbers exceeded a million.) Before WE came on the scene, there were Lions in the South of France, Greece and other parts of Southern Europa - NOW the remaining 35,000 or so are restricted to a few isolated pockets across afrika. And as for militant, I would remind you of John Aspinall's closing words in his 'Credo': 'When a system is facing extreme pressures, only extreme counter-pressures are relevant, let alone likely to prove effective. Those who subscribe to these testaments must stand up and be counted. What friends Nature has, Nature needs.' Just listen to yourselves - implying that a mere childish GAME with a BALL is of greater importance than the most important thing of all - NATURE. And the sheer ARROGANCE of dismissing as 'WASTE LAND' any little piece of real estate that is currently unused by we vile and despicable clothed chimps !! You can't GET any more selfishly arrogant than that !! But then, look at your elected leaders - both David CaMORON and his winger, Nick Clegg, have said that deluded hominid 'religious' customs must take precedence over any Animal welfare issues. They were speaking, of course, about halal meat - a problem that won't bother me, since I've evolved beyond corpse-munching in this 21st century - have you ?? The reason we HAVE to conserve Nature is simply because there's so little of it left. Agreed, Nature Reserves would not be necessary if OUR numbers were at least 7,000 times smaller than they are, but we couldn't even manage THAT one, could we ?? - even after the great thinker, Plato, suggested, about 3,000 years ago, that only the finest specimens should be allowed to breed. As ever, the undiscerning lower orders value quantity before quality every time, and so we are now witnessing the Great Dying. Our TORIES are even allowing the amerikan TORIES to spew their cancerous GM crops on us - something banned from Paris to Moscow because it involves biocides, which kill insects, thereby killing our birds, bats and lizards. You need to know what the REAL score is around the world before criticizing those who DO !! When I see some of YOU posting, as I do, on 'social media', such comments as: 'For Earth's sake, Monsanto MUST die - You KNOW it makes sense !!!!', then I'll know my worries are over. As it is, chimp overpopulation has cast a dark cloud over my life since the age of 11 - 62 years ago !! Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: -3

1:02am Wed 13 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

melcombe boy wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Loobs1 wrote:
So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.
You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.
Building a football club in front of a tip is madness?
Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness.
Your post stinks of prejudice!
No they are not in front of the tip are they..........dear me.
[quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Loobs1[/bold] wrote: So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.[/p][/quote]You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.[/p][/quote]Building a football club in front of a tip is madness? Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness. Your post stinks of prejudice![/p][/quote]No they are not in front of the tip are they..........dear me. MrTomSmith
  • Score: -3

2:03am Wed 13 Aug 14

MrTomSmith says...

greentangerine wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something here (and I don't follow any football team, locally or nationally so I have no interest specifically about Weymouth' s situation) but it struck me as odd from the start that a developer apparently puts forward a planning application for land in Lodmoor that it doesn't own. You'd imagine therefore that said developer would have been in negotiation with the owners (which appears to be WDDC - correct me if I'm wrong) to purchase said land and then it doesn't take too much thought or imagination to see why WDDC are so keen for their own planning dept. to let this through at this particular site when it would seem there are several more suitable ones wrt. transport links, environmental impact available. Please no comments about independent processes within the council free from influence; nobody is that naive.
That is a good point, The answer is they don't have to purchase the land, the idea is they find space for FREE! They then hand the lease to WFC and say thanks for the millions and good luck. WFC then have to continue life for ever on council land paying rent.

So no need to buy it, when they find a bit of scrub land (which they have done) and say Hey council people, we can make this scrub land into a fantastic new stadium that will increase attendance and income for the football club, (on fantasy figures) give you lot rent, and not only that we can give you homes that you need on the old ground. We are so good. Look at our fantastic website. Look at our plans they are perfect.

Hard to resist.

Problem is, will they really build this stadium so it is better than what we have now? I don't think so. because I don't trust them. Thats my opinion, it will never ever change.

And the question we are all asking, IS THIS THE RIGHT LOCATION? Thats the story in a nutshell.
[quote][p][bold]greentangerine[/bold] wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here (and I don't follow any football team, locally or nationally so I have no interest specifically about Weymouth' s situation) but it struck me as odd from the start that a developer apparently puts forward a planning application for land in Lodmoor that it doesn't own. You'd imagine therefore that said developer would have been in negotiation with the owners (which appears to be WDDC - correct me if I'm wrong) to purchase said land and then it doesn't take too much thought or imagination to see why WDDC are so keen for their own planning dept. to let this through at this particular site when it would seem there are several more suitable ones wrt. transport links, environmental impact available. Please no comments about independent processes within the council free from influence; nobody is that naive.[/p][/quote]That is a good point, The answer is they don't have to purchase the land, the idea is they find space for FREE! They then hand the lease to WFC and say thanks for the millions and good luck. WFC then have to continue life for ever on council land paying rent. So no need to buy it, when they find a bit of scrub land (which they have done) and say Hey council people, we can make this scrub land into a fantastic new stadium that will increase attendance and income for the football club, (on fantasy figures) give you lot rent, and not only that we can give you homes that you need on the old ground. We are so good. Look at our fantastic website. Look at our plans they are perfect. Hard to resist. Problem is, will they really build this stadium so it is better than what we have now? I don't think so. because I don't trust them. Thats my opinion, it will never ever change. And the question we are all asking, IS THIS THE RIGHT LOCATION? Thats the story in a nutshell. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 6

5:42am Wed 13 Aug 14

jusphil says...

There are more people put comments on here than go to the average Weymouth game. You should all get a life.
There are more people put comments on here than go to the average Weymouth game. You should all get a life. jusphil
  • Score: -6

8:02am Wed 13 Aug 14

melcombe boy says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
melcombe boy wrote:
MrTomSmith wrote:
Loobs1 wrote:
So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.
You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.
Building a football club in front of a tip is madness?
Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness.
Your post stinks of prejudice!
No they are not in front of the tip are they..........dear me.
They are all next to each other and equally intertwined......dea
r me you patronising gentleman.
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]melcombe boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Loobs1[/bold] wrote: So the police have concerns over the site for the stadium and Sport England have objected to it but our council think this is a good idea and as the Echo says the new stadium set for the go ahead, so all concerns go out the window. Weymouth has little to offer these days in the way of amenities, but it does have a wonderful beach loved but locals and visitors alike and it gives a lot a pleasure to many people, so what you gonna do put a football stadium on its doorstep. Shame on those on the council who agree to this.[/p][/quote]You can add other important players Merlin Entertainments (SEA LIFE) Limited have objected. The football club themselves objected, but that has been withdrawn now. I do agree totally building a Football stadium right in front of a tip, by the side of a bird sanctuary, next to one of the biggest children's attractions the town has, is complete madness.[/p][/quote]Building a football club in front of a tip is madness? Using your same logic then surely building the sea life centre and a bird sanctuary in front of a tip is also madness. Your post stinks of prejudice![/p][/quote]No they are not in front of the tip are they..........dear me.[/p][/quote]They are all next to each other and equally intertwined......dea r me you patronising gentleman. melcombe boy
  • Score: -3

9:32am Wed 13 Aug 14

melcombe boy says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Nature is the most fascinating and intellectually stimulating subject there is - so WHY do people hate it so much ??
Gardens are never even allowed to look natural - you MUST have bare, sterile earth, with evenly-spaced foreign/cultivated flowers. You DESPISE native Europan plants, dismissing them as 'weeds' - yet they are light-years more beautiful than garishly overstated flowers bought from a garden center. Most gardeners, being ignorant, will probably be unaware that virtually EVERY Satyrid butterfly (ie: the Browns) lays its eggs on long grasses, so cut your grass in Summer - no browns next year. No Speckled Woods, Gatekeepers, Meadow Browns, Small Heaths or Wall Browns.
Football, second most idiotic ballgame after golf, was supposed to be illegal to play OR watch (why would anyone watch it - I'D even quickly get bored watching pistol shooting, skeet, rifle shooting or archery. I even find cycling a bit boring to watch !!), according to laws still on the statute books - males of adult years are supposed to spend any free time after serving their TORY masters by practicing with the longbow - a sport that has some PRACTICAL use, unlike anything involving balls !!
I am also disgusted at chimps NEVER being satisfied with the land they've stolen from Nature - they ALWAYS want more, and won't be happy until everything bears the scars of the clothed ape from afrika. The sooner our vermin species does the decent thing and becomes extinct, the better. Sir David describes us as a PLAGUE, I describe us as GIGAvermin (we crossed the boundary into vermin as soon as our world numbers exceeded a million.) Before WE came on the scene, there were Lions in the South of France, Greece and other parts of Southern Europa - NOW the remaining 35,000 or so are restricted to a few isolated pockets across afrika. And as for militant, I would remind you of John Aspinall's closing words in his 'Credo': 'When a system is facing extreme pressures, only extreme counter-pressures are relevant, let alone likely to prove effective. Those who subscribe to these testaments must stand up and be counted. What friends Nature has, Nature needs.'
Just listen to yourselves - implying that a mere childish GAME with a BALL is of greater importance than the most important thing of all - NATURE. And the sheer ARROGANCE of dismissing as 'WASTE LAND' any little piece of real estate that is currently unused by we vile and despicable clothed chimps !! You can't GET any more selfishly arrogant than that !! But then, look at your elected leaders - both David CaMORON and his winger, Nick Clegg, have said that deluded hominid 'religious' customs must take precedence over any Animal welfare issues. They were speaking, of course, about halal meat - a problem that won't bother me, since I've evolved beyond corpse-munching in this 21st century - have you ??
The reason we HAVE to conserve Nature is simply because there's so little of it left. Agreed, Nature Reserves would not be necessary if OUR numbers were at least 7,000 times smaller than they are, but we couldn't even manage THAT one, could we ?? - even after the great thinker, Plato, suggested, about 3,000 years ago, that only the finest specimens should be allowed to breed. As ever, the undiscerning lower orders value quantity before quality every time, and so we are now witnessing the Great Dying. Our TORIES are even allowing the amerikan TORIES to spew their cancerous GM crops on us - something banned from Paris to Moscow because it involves biocides, which kill insects, thereby killing our birds, bats and lizards. You need to know what the REAL score is around the world before criticizing those who DO !! When I see some of YOU posting, as I do, on 'social media', such comments as: 'For Earth's sake, Monsanto MUST die - You KNOW it makes sense !!!!', then I'll know my worries are over. As it is, chimp overpopulation has cast a dark cloud over my life since the age of 11 - 62 years ago !!
Over population is an issue?
It happens in that natural world that you so love all the time.
Ultimately nature will always find the right balance just as it has been doing it for millions and millions of years. Some years locusts swarm because the climate and circumstances are right. The same thing with every creature on the planet.
Far more dangerous to protect and conserve everything. That is interfering with the law of nature, natural selection and evolution.
Nature will always find a way to balance things out without man's misguided intervention.
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Nature is the most fascinating and intellectually stimulating subject there is - so WHY do people hate it so much ?? Gardens are never even allowed to look natural - you MUST have bare, sterile earth, with evenly-spaced foreign/cultivated flowers. You DESPISE native Europan plants, dismissing them as 'weeds' - yet they are light-years more beautiful than garishly overstated flowers bought from a garden center. Most gardeners, being ignorant, will probably be unaware that virtually EVERY Satyrid butterfly (ie: the Browns) lays its eggs on long grasses, so cut your grass in Summer - no browns next year. No Speckled Woods, Gatekeepers, Meadow Browns, Small Heaths or Wall Browns. Football, second most idiotic ballgame after golf, was supposed to be illegal to play OR watch (why would anyone watch it - I'D even quickly get bored watching pistol shooting, skeet, rifle shooting or archery. I even find cycling a bit boring to watch !!), according to laws still on the statute books - males of adult years are supposed to spend any free time after serving their TORY masters by practicing with the longbow - a sport that has some PRACTICAL use, unlike anything involving balls !! I am also disgusted at chimps NEVER being satisfied with the land they've stolen from Nature - they ALWAYS want more, and won't be happy until everything bears the scars of the clothed ape from afrika. The sooner our vermin species does the decent thing and becomes extinct, the better. Sir David describes us as a PLAGUE, I describe us as GIGAvermin (we crossed the boundary into vermin as soon as our world numbers exceeded a million.) Before WE came on the scene, there were Lions in the South of France, Greece and other parts of Southern Europa - NOW the remaining 35,000 or so are restricted to a few isolated pockets across afrika. And as for militant, I would remind you of John Aspinall's closing words in his 'Credo': 'When a system is facing extreme pressures, only extreme counter-pressures are relevant, let alone likely to prove effective. Those who subscribe to these testaments must stand up and be counted. What friends Nature has, Nature needs.' Just listen to yourselves - implying that a mere childish GAME with a BALL is of greater importance than the most important thing of all - NATURE. And the sheer ARROGANCE of dismissing as 'WASTE LAND' any little piece of real estate that is currently unused by we vile and despicable clothed chimps !! You can't GET any more selfishly arrogant than that !! But then, look at your elected leaders - both David CaMORON and his winger, Nick Clegg, have said that deluded hominid 'religious' customs must take precedence over any Animal welfare issues. They were speaking, of course, about halal meat - a problem that won't bother me, since I've evolved beyond corpse-munching in this 21st century - have you ?? The reason we HAVE to conserve Nature is simply because there's so little of it left. Agreed, Nature Reserves would not be necessary if OUR numbers were at least 7,000 times smaller than they are, but we couldn't even manage THAT one, could we ?? - even after the great thinker, Plato, suggested, about 3,000 years ago, that only the finest specimens should be allowed to breed. As ever, the undiscerning lower orders value quantity before quality every time, and so we are now witnessing the Great Dying. Our TORIES are even allowing the amerikan TORIES to spew their cancerous GM crops on us - something banned from Paris to Moscow because it involves biocides, which kill insects, thereby killing our birds, bats and lizards. You need to know what the REAL score is around the world before criticizing those who DO !! When I see some of YOU posting, as I do, on 'social media', such comments as: 'For Earth's sake, Monsanto MUST die - You KNOW it makes sense !!!!', then I'll know my worries are over. As it is, chimp overpopulation has cast a dark cloud over my life since the age of 11 - 62 years ago !![/p][/quote]Over population is an issue? It happens in that natural world that you so love all the time. Ultimately nature will always find the right balance just as it has been doing it for millions and millions of years. Some years locusts swarm because the climate and circumstances are right. The same thing with every creature on the planet. Far more dangerous to protect and conserve everything. That is interfering with the law of nature, natural selection and evolution. Nature will always find a way to balance things out without man's misguided intervention. melcombe boy
  • Score: 0

10:09am Wed 13 Aug 14

Douglas Mc says...

Surprised W&PBC don't develop the Lodmoor site themselves for up market housing pocket the profits and take the Council Tax receipts every year. No they are content for more housing at the Wessex providing more Tax receipts for WDDC. Now which Council is better off?
Surprised W&PBC don't develop the Lodmoor site themselves for up market housing pocket the profits and take the Council Tax receipts every year. No they are content for more housing at the Wessex providing more Tax receipts for WDDC. Now which Council is better off? Douglas Mc
  • Score: -3

10:30am Wed 13 Aug 14

melcombe boy says...

Douglas Mc wrote:
Surprised W&PBC don't develop the Lodmoor site themselves for up market housing pocket the profits and take the Council Tax receipts every year. No they are content for more housing at the Wessex providing more Tax receipts for WDDC. Now which Council is better off?
The whole of lodmoor would be a great development site for leisure and housing but much of it is off limits due to it being a protected nature reserve.
Wessex stadium is not within Weymouth and Portland boundaries so the decision is made by West Dorset council. They actually turned down the plans but the developers appealed the decision. The government planning inspectorate will make the decision, not any local body.
[quote][p][bold]Douglas Mc[/bold] wrote: Surprised W&PBC don't develop the Lodmoor site themselves for up market housing pocket the profits and take the Council Tax receipts every year. No they are content for more housing at the Wessex providing more Tax receipts for WDDC. Now which Council is better off?[/p][/quote]The whole of lodmoor would be a great development site for leisure and housing but much of it is off limits due to it being a protected nature reserve. Wessex stadium is not within Weymouth and Portland boundaries so the decision is made by West Dorset council. They actually turned down the plans but the developers appealed the decision. The government planning inspectorate will make the decision, not any local body. melcombe boy
  • Score: 3

12:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

dorch21 says...

Successful mergers
Dagenham & Redbridge 92
Rushden & Diamonds 92
Inverness Caledonian 94
Havant & Waterlooville 98
Hayes & Yeading 2007
Heston Rovers 2008
Need i say anymore?
Successful mergers Dagenham & Redbridge 92 Rushden & Diamonds 92 Inverness Caledonian 94 Havant & Waterlooville 98 Hayes & Yeading 2007 Heston Rovers 2008 Need i say anymore? dorch21
  • Score: -1

12:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

tarka says...

Why does any stadium have to be solely football. Why if it is to be positioned at Lodmore can in not be a multi-use stadium for various sports and events.

I would include rugby but that would allow the existing rugby club to become a permanent caravan park.
Why does any stadium have to be solely football. Why if it is to be positioned at Lodmore can in not be a multi-use stadium for various sports and events. I would include rugby but that would allow the existing rugby club to become a permanent caravan park. tarka
  • Score: -2

12:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

greentangerine says...

An all-weather athletics track around the pitch would be a start.
An all-weather athletics track around the pitch would be a start. greentangerine
  • Score: -1

4:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Genghis says...

dorch21 wrote:
Successful mergers
Dagenham & Redbridge 92
Rushden & Diamonds 92
Inverness Caledonian 94
Havant & Waterlooville 98
Hayes & Yeading 2007
Heston Rovers 2008
Need i say anymore?
So if you're that interested in merge clubs, go and support one of them, just leave us to support our teams the way we wish to.

PS: I wouldn't go to Rushden and Diamonds though. They were so successful, that due to off-field problems they are no longer in existence.
[quote][p][bold]dorch21[/bold] wrote: Successful mergers Dagenham & Redbridge 92 Rushden & Diamonds 92 Inverness Caledonian 94 Havant & Waterlooville 98 Hayes & Yeading 2007 Heston Rovers 2008 Need i say anymore?[/p][/quote]So if you're that interested in merge clubs, go and support one of them, just leave us to support our teams the way we wish to. PS: I wouldn't go to Rushden and Diamonds though. They were so successful, that due to off-field problems they are no longer in existence. Genghis
  • Score: 2

6:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mark@greenhill says...

Genghis wrote:
dorch21 wrote:
Successful mergers
Dagenham & Redbridge 92
Rushden & Diamonds 92
Inverness Caledonian 94
Havant & Waterlooville 98
Hayes & Yeading 2007
Heston Rovers 2008
Need i say anymore?
So if you're that interested in merge clubs, go and support one of them, just leave us to support our teams the way we wish to.

PS: I wouldn't go to Rushden and Diamonds though. They were so successful, that due to off-field problems they are no longer in existence.
Considering the results of Weymouth FC, an earlier suggestion of making the new ground Multi Purpose, sounds like a prudent move?

At least then when they finally go the same way as Rushden & Diamonds, the stadium will still be of some use to the community?
[quote][p][bold]Genghis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorch21[/bold] wrote: Successful mergers Dagenham & Redbridge 92 Rushden & Diamonds 92 Inverness Caledonian 94 Havant & Waterlooville 98 Hayes & Yeading 2007 Heston Rovers 2008 Need i say anymore?[/p][/quote]So if you're that interested in merge clubs, go and support one of them, just leave us to support our teams the way we wish to. PS: I wouldn't go to Rushden and Diamonds though. They were so successful, that due to off-field problems they are no longer in existence.[/p][/quote]Considering the results of Weymouth FC, an earlier suggestion of making the new ground Multi Purpose, sounds like a prudent move? At least then when they finally go the same way as Rushden & Diamonds, the stadium will still be of some use to the community? mark@greenhill
  • Score: -2

6:11pm Wed 13 Aug 14

PHonnor says...

mark@greenhill wrote:
Genghis wrote:
dorch21 wrote:
Successful mergers
Dagenham & Redbridge 92
Rushden & Diamonds 92
Inverness Caledonian 94
Havant & Waterlooville 98
Hayes & Yeading 2007
Heston Rovers 2008
Need i say anymore?
So if you're that interested in merge clubs, go and support one of them, just leave us to support our teams the way we wish to.

PS: I wouldn't go to Rushden and Diamonds though. They were so successful, that due to off-field problems they are no longer in existence.
Considering the results of Weymouth FC, an earlier suggestion of making the new ground Multi Purpose, sounds like a prudent move?

At least then when they finally go the same way as Rushden & Diamonds, the stadium will still be of some use to the community?
Fair enough you don't like football but isn't it a bit childish to hope WFC goes the same way as R&D? I can understand, like the other chap above you are worried about the impact of a 5000 capacity stadium out your back window but I wonder, did you submit your objection, unless it's not that and you just want to stop people's enjoyment or you have beef with an ex or current board member?
[quote][p][bold]mark@greenhill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Genghis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorch21[/bold] wrote: Successful mergers Dagenham & Redbridge 92 Rushden & Diamonds 92 Inverness Caledonian 94 Havant & Waterlooville 98 Hayes & Yeading 2007 Heston Rovers 2008 Need i say anymore?[/p][/quote]So if you're that interested in merge clubs, go and support one of them, just leave us to support our teams the way we wish to. PS: I wouldn't go to Rushden and Diamonds though. They were so successful, that due to off-field problems they are no longer in existence.[/p][/quote]Considering the results of Weymouth FC, an earlier suggestion of making the new ground Multi Purpose, sounds like a prudent move? At least then when they finally go the same way as Rushden & Diamonds, the stadium will still be of some use to the community?[/p][/quote]Fair enough you don't like football but isn't it a bit childish to hope WFC goes the same way as R&D? I can understand, like the other chap above you are worried about the impact of a 5000 capacity stadium out your back window but I wonder, did you submit your objection, unless it's not that and you just want to stop people's enjoyment or you have beef with an ex or current board member? PHonnor
  • Score: 3

6:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Genghis says...

mark@greenhill wrote:
Genghis wrote:
dorch21 wrote:
Successful mergers
Dagenham & Redbridge 92
Rushden & Diamonds 92
Inverness Caledonian 94
Havant & Waterlooville 98
Hayes & Yeading 2007
Heston Rovers 2008
Need i say anymore?
So if you're that interested in merge clubs, go and support one of them, just leave us to support our teams the way we wish to.

PS: I wouldn't go to Rushden and Diamonds though. They were so successful, that due to off-field problems they are no longer in existence.
Considering the results of Weymouth FC, an earlier suggestion of making the new ground Multi Purpose, sounds like a prudent move?

At least then when they finally go the same way as Rushden & Diamonds, the stadium will still be of some use to the community?
What results are those then?
[quote][p][bold]mark@greenhill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Genghis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dorch21[/bold] wrote: Successful mergers Dagenham & Redbridge 92 Rushden & Diamonds 92 Inverness Caledonian 94 Havant & Waterlooville 98 Hayes & Yeading 2007 Heston Rovers 2008 Need i say anymore?[/p][/quote]So if you're that interested in merge clubs, go and support one of them, just leave us to support our teams the way we wish to. PS: I wouldn't go to Rushden and Diamonds though. They were so successful, that due to off-field problems they are no longer in existence.[/p][/quote]Considering the results of Weymouth FC, an earlier suggestion of making the new ground Multi Purpose, sounds like a prudent move? At least then when they finally go the same way as Rushden & Diamonds, the stadium will still be of some use to the community?[/p][/quote]What results are those then? Genghis
  • Score: 0

8:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Caption Sensible says...

iansedwell wrote:
The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065.
http://www.european-

football-statistics.

co.uk/attn/aveengnl.

htm

According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town.

It is dead. Move on.
Your maths is not so hot is it. 0.01% of 52323 is 5.23.

523 is 1% of 52323.
[quote][p][bold]iansedwell[/bold] wrote: The average attendance for Weymouth Football Club in the 2013/14 season was 523. That is taken over 22 games and is 16,6% down on the previous season. The highest attendance was 1,065. http://www.european- football-statistics. co.uk/attn/aveengnl. htm According to Dorset County Council, the population of Weymouth in 2013 was 52,323. So less than 0.01% of the population care about Weymouth Football Club. It has next to no support in the town. It is dead. Move on.[/p][/quote]Your maths is not so hot is it. 0.01% of 52323 is 5.23. 523 is 1% of 52323. Caption Sensible
  • Score: 2

8:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Caption Sensible says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
Nature is the most fascinating and intellectually stimulating subject there is - so WHY do people hate it so much ??
Gardens are never even allowed to look natural - you MUST have bare, sterile earth, with evenly-spaced foreign/cultivated flowers. You DESPISE native Europan plants, dismissing them as 'weeds' - yet they are light-years more beautiful than garishly overstated flowers bought from a garden center. Most gardeners, being ignorant, will probably be unaware that virtually EVERY Satyrid butterfly (ie: the Browns) lays its eggs on long grasses, so cut your grass in Summer - no browns next year. No Speckled Woods, Gatekeepers, Meadow Browns, Small Heaths or Wall Browns.
Football, second most idiotic ballgame after golf, was supposed to be illegal to play OR watch (why would anyone watch it - I'D even quickly get bored watching pistol shooting, skeet, rifle shooting or archery. I even find cycling a bit boring to watch !!), according to laws still on the statute books - males of adult years are supposed to spend any free time after serving their TORY masters by practicing with the longbow - a sport that has some PRACTICAL use, unlike anything involving balls !!
I am also disgusted at chimps NEVER being satisfied with the land they've stolen from Nature - they ALWAYS want more, and won't be happy until everything bears the scars of the clothed ape from afrika. The sooner our vermin species does the decent thing and becomes extinct, the better. Sir David describes us as a PLAGUE, I describe us as GIGAvermin (we crossed the boundary into vermin as soon as our world numbers exceeded a million.) Before WE came on the scene, there were Lions in the South of France, Greece and other parts of Southern Europa - NOW the remaining 35,000 or so are restricted to a few isolated pockets across afrika. And as for militant, I would remind you of John Aspinall's closing words in his 'Credo': 'When a system is facing extreme pressures, only extreme counter-pressures are relevant, let alone likely to prove effective. Those who subscribe to these testaments must stand up and be counted. What friends Nature has, Nature needs.'
Just listen to yourselves - implying that a mere childish GAME with a BALL is of greater importance than the most important thing of all - NATURE. And the sheer ARROGANCE of dismissing as 'WASTE LAND' any little piece of real estate that is currently unused by we vile and despicable clothed chimps !! You can't GET any more selfishly arrogant than that !! But then, look at your elected leaders - both David CaMORON and his winger, Nick Clegg, have said that deluded hominid 'religious' customs must take precedence over any Animal welfare issues. They were speaking, of course, about halal meat - a problem that won't bother me, since I've evolved beyond corpse-munching in this 21st century - have you ??
The reason we HAVE to conserve Nature is simply because there's so little of it left. Agreed, Nature Reserves would not be necessary if OUR numbers were at least 7,000 times smaller than they are, but we couldn't even manage THAT one, could we ?? - even after the great thinker, Plato, suggested, about 3,000 years ago, that only the finest specimens should be allowed to breed. As ever, the undiscerning lower orders value quantity before quality every time, and so we are now witnessing the Great Dying. Our TORIES are even allowing the amerikan TORIES to spew their cancerous GM crops on us - something banned from Paris to Moscow because it involves biocides, which kill insects, thereby killing our birds, bats and lizards. You need to know what the REAL score is around the world before criticizing those who DO !! When I see some of YOU posting, as I do, on 'social media', such comments as: 'For Earth's sake, Monsanto MUST die - You KNOW it makes sense !!!!', then I'll know my worries are over. As it is, chimp overpopulation has cast a dark cloud over my life since the age of 11 - 62 years ago !!
The barking misanthrope is back...
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: Nature is the most fascinating and intellectually stimulating subject there is - so WHY do people hate it so much ?? Gardens are never even allowed to look natural - you MUST have bare, sterile earth, with evenly-spaced foreign/cultivated flowers. You DESPISE native Europan plants, dismissing them as 'weeds' - yet they are light-years more beautiful than garishly overstated flowers bought from a garden center. Most gardeners, being ignorant, will probably be unaware that virtually EVERY Satyrid butterfly (ie: the Browns) lays its eggs on long grasses, so cut your grass in Summer - no browns next year. No Speckled Woods, Gatekeepers, Meadow Browns, Small Heaths or Wall Browns. Football, second most idiotic ballgame after golf, was supposed to be illegal to play OR watch (why would anyone watch it - I'D even quickly get bored watching pistol shooting, skeet, rifle shooting or archery. I even find cycling a bit boring to watch !!), according to laws still on the statute books - males of adult years are supposed to spend any free time after serving their TORY masters by practicing with the longbow - a sport that has some PRACTICAL use, unlike anything involving balls !! I am also disgusted at chimps NEVER being satisfied with the land they've stolen from Nature - they ALWAYS want more, and won't be happy until everything bears the scars of the clothed ape from afrika. The sooner our vermin species does the decent thing and becomes extinct, the better. Sir David describes us as a PLAGUE, I describe us as GIGAvermin (we crossed the boundary into vermin as soon as our world numbers exceeded a million.) Before WE came on the scene, there were Lions in the South of France, Greece and other parts of Southern Europa - NOW the remaining 35,000 or so are restricted to a few isolated pockets across afrika. And as for militant, I would remind you of John Aspinall's closing words in his 'Credo': 'When a system is facing extreme pressures, only extreme counter-pressures are relevant, let alone likely to prove effective. Those who subscribe to these testaments must stand up and be counted. What friends Nature has, Nature needs.' Just listen to yourselves - implying that a mere childish GAME with a BALL is of greater importance than the most important thing of all - NATURE. And the sheer ARROGANCE of dismissing as 'WASTE LAND' any little piece of real estate that is currently unused by we vile and despicable clothed chimps !! You can't GET any more selfishly arrogant than that !! But then, look at your elected leaders - both David CaMORON and his winger, Nick Clegg, have said that deluded hominid 'religious' customs must take precedence over any Animal welfare issues. They were speaking, of course, about halal meat - a problem that won't bother me, since I've evolved beyond corpse-munching in this 21st century - have you ?? The reason we HAVE to conserve Nature is simply because there's so little of it left. Agreed, Nature Reserves would not be necessary if OUR numbers were at least 7,000 times smaller than they are, but we couldn't even manage THAT one, could we ?? - even after the great thinker, Plato, suggested, about 3,000 years ago, that only the finest specimens should be allowed to breed. As ever, the undiscerning lower orders value quantity before quality every time, and so we are now witnessing the Great Dying. Our TORIES are even allowing the amerikan TORIES to spew their cancerous GM crops on us - something banned from Paris to Moscow because it involves biocides, which kill insects, thereby killing our birds, bats and lizards. You need to know what the REAL score is around the world before criticizing those who DO !! When I see some of YOU posting, as I do, on 'social media', such comments as: 'For Earth's sake, Monsanto MUST die - You KNOW it makes sense !!!!', then I'll know my worries are over. As it is, chimp overpopulation has cast a dark cloud over my life since the age of 11 - 62 years ago !![/p][/quote]The barking misanthrope is back... Caption Sensible
  • Score: 1

9:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Harpya Orkinus says...

And who's to blame for THAT, MORON ??!! Now, do you have anything INTELLIGENT to say, O gibbering ape ?? :-)
And who's to blame for THAT, MORON ??!! Now, do you have anything INTELLIGENT to say, O gibbering ape ?? :-) Harpya Orkinus
  • Score: -3

10:09am Thu 14 Aug 14

February1948 says...

The Fish wrote:
So access to this new ground is going to be via either Preston Road via Overcombe Corner or Dorchester Road via Greenhill - not very clever really could'nt get further from main transport routes! Surely the stadium (if it has to move) would be better situated near the current Park & Ride facilities.
Your suggestion smacks of common sense, so no chance of that happening! Isn't that area prone to flooding?
[quote][p][bold]The Fish[/bold] wrote: So access to this new ground is going to be via either Preston Road via Overcombe Corner or Dorchester Road via Greenhill - not very clever really could'nt get further from main transport routes! Surely the stadium (if it has to move) would be better situated near the current Park & Ride facilities.[/p][/quote]Your suggestion smacks of common sense, so no chance of that happening! Isn't that area prone to flooding? February1948
  • Score: 1

10:25pm Thu 14 Aug 14

westie22 says...

dorch21 wrote:
Successful mergers
Dagenham & Redbridge 92
Rushden & Diamonds 92
Inverness Caledonian 94
Havant & Waterlooville 98
Hayes & Yeading 2007
Heston Rovers 2008
Need i say anymore?
Yes you do need to say more. Hayes & Yeading a successful merger. Do you have any idea what is going on at that Club! I think not.
[quote][p][bold]dorch21[/bold] wrote: Successful mergers Dagenham & Redbridge 92 Rushden & Diamonds 92 Inverness Caledonian 94 Havant & Waterlooville 98 Hayes & Yeading 2007 Heston Rovers 2008 Need i say anymore?[/p][/quote]Yes you do need to say more. Hayes & Yeading a successful merger. Do you have any idea what is going on at that Club! I think not. westie22
  • Score: 1

3:34am Sat 16 Aug 14

Caption Sensible says...

Harpya Orkinus wrote:
And who's to blame for THAT, MORON ??!! Now, do you have anything INTELLIGENT to say, O gibbering ape ?? :-)
Discombobulated?
[quote][p][bold]Harpya Orkinus[/bold] wrote: And who's to blame for THAT, MORON ??!! Now, do you have anything INTELLIGENT to say, O gibbering ape ?? :-)[/p][/quote]Discombobulated? Caption Sensible
  • Score: 0

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