Driver’s call for clearer road signs

David Hansford with a speeding ticket he feels he unfairly received

Weymouth Relief Road

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A DRIVER is challenging a speeding ticket as he claims the restriction on Weymouth Relief Road is not clearly advertised.

David Hansford is taking his fight to court, arguing authorities could do better to promote the 30mph zone at the entrance to the relief road, just past the Manor roundabout.

Dorchester resident Mr Hansford, owner of the Vintage shop in Weymouth, travels along Weymouth Way and the Weymouth Relief Road, every day.

He was given a ticket for doing 40mph on the stretch of road between the Manor and Veasta roundabouts, which carries a 30mph limit.

Drivers coming from Weymouth Way are only informed of the 30mph limit as they approach the Manor roundabout but not after. The limit remains a 30 until past the Veasta roundabout, when it becomes a 50mph zone.

Mr Hansford, 46, claims it isn’t clearly advertised, and that no signs exist on the part of the road he was caught in for Dorchester-bound drivers. The sign at the roundabout was obscured by overgrowth, he said.

Mr Hansford said he had never noticed the sign before and assumed the limit was 50mph. He claims he was caught by a mobile speed camera in a car.

Mr Hansford said: “It was a dark car with a camera in it, parked on the concrete on the left hand side. It was eight o’clock at night as well.

“I saw the car, looked at the speed and I was doing 40mph.”

He added: “I wasn’t expecting it because I didn’t for a second think I’d broken the speed limit.”

Mr Hansford has contested the ticket and is now planning to make his case in court.

He said: “Nobody would ever imagine that is 30mph. There’s absolutely no reason for it. Nobody ever walks there. There are no schools, no shops and no children.”

He is keen to discover how many other drivers were aware of the limit. He added: “I’d just like to know the reasons for it to be a 30mph limit. If there’s no danger to the public, it’s a trap.”

Explaining the decision behind the speed limit, a spokesman for Dorset County Council said: “Each end of that bit of road will have 30mph due to the other arms of the roundabout. It’s such a small distance that we wouldn’t want to have so many changes to the limit. It also ensures that drivers are driving at an appropriate speed on the approaches to the roundabouts.”

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7:19am Thu 21 Aug 14

MASK & SNORKEL says...

I think most drivers know this road is 30 mph. However, some drivers use the short stretch of road to overtake ( or undertake in some situations) and gain a few places in the traffic. Trying to pull out of the Manor roundabout is hard sometimes as vehicles often straight line the roundabout and are travelling at more than 30 mph.
I think most drivers know this road is 30 mph. However, some drivers use the short stretch of road to overtake ( or undertake in some situations) and gain a few places in the traffic. Trying to pull out of the Manor roundabout is hard sometimes as vehicles often straight line the roundabout and are travelling at more than 30 mph. MASK & SNORKEL
  • Score: 27

7:47am Thu 21 Aug 14

Jimmytheone says...

I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information.
Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.
I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information. Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset. Jimmytheone
  • Score: -2

7:50am Thu 21 Aug 14

The Fish says...

No excuse, if he new his highway code then he would know that there is an indication of the speed limit every 7.5 seconds - in this case the street lights indicating a built up area where the speed is likely to be 30 mph! The fact that he knows there is a 30mph sign prior to entering the roundabout shows how stupid he is and should be given the maximum possible fine.
No excuse, if he new his highway code then he would know that there is an indication of the speed limit every 7.5 seconds - in this case the street lights indicating a built up area where the speed is likely to be 30 mph! The fact that he knows there is a 30mph sign prior to entering the roundabout shows how stupid he is and should be given the maximum possible fine. The Fish
  • Score: 32

7:54am Thu 21 Aug 14

Jimmytheone says...

Mr Hansford ride a bike you are then above the law you can ride anywhere on or off cycle paths depending on your tyres and even without lights and if all else fells drop the bike and run the rozzers will never catch you then. But you must wear lycra.
Mr Hansford ride a bike you are then above the law you can ride anywhere on or off cycle paths depending on your tyres and even without lights and if all else fells drop the bike and run the rozzers will never catch you then. But you must wear lycra. Jimmytheone
  • Score: -25

7:55am Thu 21 Aug 14

The Fish says...

Jimmytheone wrote:
I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information. Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.
Did they have a speed camera?
Similar operates (used to) in Yeovil, where speeders were reported to police, if caught three times then a letter was sent out to the offending vehicle owner - but it never went further than that.
[quote][p][bold]Jimmytheone[/bold] wrote: I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information. Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.[/p][/quote]Did they have a speed camera? Similar operates (used to) in Yeovil, where speeders were reported to police, if caught three times then a letter was sent out to the offending vehicle owner - but it never went further than that. The Fish
  • Score: 2

7:58am Thu 21 Aug 14

Jimmytheone says...

There you go Mr Hansford as the fish said don't watch the road count the lamp posts
There you go Mr Hansford as the fish said don't watch the road count the lamp posts Jimmytheone
  • Score: 11

8:03am Thu 21 Aug 14

Jimmytheone says...

The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights.
The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights. Jimmytheone
  • Score: -15

8:09am Thu 21 Aug 14

IslandJim1 says...

Dorchester Rd comming from both directions is 30mph....and both Wemouth Way & the releif road ARE SIGNED down to 30mph before you get to Veasta and Manor roundabout! This small stretch of road is surrounded by signs stating 30mph, Mr Hansford states, "He assumed it was 50", despite all the previously mentioned 30mph signs. Really, how would you come to that conclusion? As we all know assumption is the mother of all muck ups, pay your fine, re-read the highway code and stop moaning you muppet. FYI if I was caught speeding the last thing I would do is run to the local rag so every one could read about my blatant law breaking tendency and/or inability to read and use the public highways correctly. Again, Muppet!
Dorchester Rd comming from both directions is 30mph....and both Wemouth Way & the releif road ARE SIGNED down to 30mph before you get to Veasta and Manor roundabout! This small stretch of road is surrounded by signs stating 30mph, Mr Hansford states, "He assumed it was 50", despite all the previously mentioned 30mph signs. Really, how would you come to that conclusion? As we all know assumption is the mother of all muck ups, pay your fine, re-read the highway code and stop moaning you muppet. FYI if I was caught speeding the last thing I would do is run to the local rag so every one could read about my blatant law breaking tendency and/or inability to read and use the public highways correctly. Again, Muppet! IslandJim1
  • Score: 42

8:14am Thu 21 Aug 14

angrydorseter says...

Jimmytheone wrote:
The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights.
What rights? It is not illegal to photograph someone (or their car).
[quote][p][bold]Jimmytheone[/bold] wrote: The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights.[/p][/quote]What rights? It is not illegal to photograph someone (or their car). angrydorseter
  • Score: 28

8:26am Thu 21 Aug 14

axemfoxem says...

The Law is quite clear, where a system of street lights exist. The speed limit is 30mph, unless another limit is posted. No Excuses.
Its about time more drivers read the Highway code and kept up to date with current legislation.
I would also point out that the national speed limit on the relief road, even on the two lane section, is 60mph not 70mph as the majority of motorists using it seem to believe. It is only 70 on a dual carriageway, (a road separated by a physical barrier.).
The Law is quite clear, where a system of street lights exist. The speed limit is 30mph, unless another limit is posted. No Excuses. Its about time more drivers read the Highway code and kept up to date with current legislation. I would also point out that the national speed limit on the relief road, even on the two lane section, is 60mph not 70mph as the majority of motorists using it seem to believe. It is only 70 on a dual carriageway, (a road separated by a physical barrier.). axemfoxem
  • Score: 32

8:28am Thu 21 Aug 14

MattWey77 says...

"travels down that road everyday"

oh dear, that doesn't say much for his observation skills, even if a speed limit sign were overgrown grown now, I doubt it has been for every day that that he has travelled down the road.

Suck it up chap and pay the fine/collect the points. Stop wasting the court's time and money. Personally if I were a judge and this appear in my court I'd take your license away - and make you pass a remedial course before letting you have it back, as it appears your driving skills aren't really up to standard.
"travels down that road everyday" oh dear, that doesn't say much for his observation skills, even if a speed limit sign were overgrown grown now, I doubt it has been for every day that that he has travelled down the road. Suck it up chap and pay the fine/collect the points. Stop wasting the court's time and money. Personally if I were a judge and this appear in my court I'd take your license away - and make you pass a remedial course before letting you have it back, as it appears your driving skills aren't really up to standard. MattWey77
  • Score: 34

8:32am Thu 21 Aug 14

The Fish says...

angrydorseter wrote:
Jimmytheone wrote: The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights.
What rights? It is not illegal to photograph someone (or their car).
It is without their permission if it is going to be displayed - the Echo recently got caught and ended up having to 'blur' faces, number plates etc.
[quote][p][bold]angrydorseter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimmytheone[/bold] wrote: The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights.[/p][/quote]What rights? It is not illegal to photograph someone (or their car).[/p][/quote]It is without their permission if it is going to be displayed - the Echo recently got caught and ended up having to 'blur' faces, number plates etc. The Fish
  • Score: -12

8:33am Thu 21 Aug 14

axemfoxem says...

Read the Highway Code
The speed limit is 30mph where a system of street lights exist and no other speed limit is posted. No signs required, No Excuses.
Also the National speed limit on the relief road is 60mph not 70mph as most drivers seem to think. The 70mph limit only applies to a dual carriageway which is defined as two lanes of traffic separated by a physical barrier. NOT two lanes of traffic in the same direction.
Read the Highway Code The speed limit is 30mph where a system of street lights exist and no other speed limit is posted. No signs required, No Excuses. Also the National speed limit on the relief road is 60mph not 70mph as most drivers seem to think. The 70mph limit only applies to a dual carriageway which is defined as two lanes of traffic separated by a physical barrier. NOT two lanes of traffic in the same direction. axemfoxem
  • Score: 22

9:06am Thu 21 Aug 14

Dorset Guy1 says...

Jimmytheone wrote:
I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information.
Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.
This scheme can be implemented with Police agreement and training The fact that it caused a tailback proves that many cars were exceeding the speed limit and indeed were aware they were going too fast
[quote][p][bold]Jimmytheone[/bold] wrote: I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information. Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.[/p][/quote]This scheme can be implemented with Police agreement and training The fact that it caused a tailback proves that many cars were exceeding the speed limit and indeed were aware they were going too fast Dorset Guy1
  • Score: 6

9:53am Thu 21 Aug 14

angrydorseter says...

The Fish wrote:
angrydorseter wrote:
Jimmytheone wrote: The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights.
What rights? It is not illegal to photograph someone (or their car).
It is without their permission if it is going to be displayed - the Echo recently got caught and ended up having to 'blur' faces, number plates etc.
No. I suspect they voluntarily removed them because people like you were writing to them and it wasn't worth the hassle. How do you think post cards with high streets on etc are legal? Do you think they get permission from anyone in the picture? Same for news reports and landscape photos?
[quote][p][bold]The Fish[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angrydorseter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimmytheone[/bold] wrote: The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights.[/p][/quote]What rights? It is not illegal to photograph someone (or their car).[/p][/quote]It is without their permission if it is going to be displayed - the Echo recently got caught and ended up having to 'blur' faces, number plates etc.[/p][/quote]No. I suspect they voluntarily removed them because people like you were writing to them and it wasn't worth the hassle. How do you think post cards with high streets on etc are legal? Do you think they get permission from anyone in the picture? Same for news reports and landscape photos? angrydorseter
  • Score: 6

9:59am Thu 21 Aug 14

martaaay2 says...

Motorist believes they were unfairly caught shock

Dorset Police in targeting road with no accident history and placing mobile speed traps in increasingly dangerous positions in order to raise revenue shock

All that's missing is the word fury from the headline, echo headline writer must be on holiday, is this really news?!
Motorist believes they were unfairly caught shock Dorset Police in targeting road with no accident history and placing mobile speed traps in increasingly dangerous positions in order to raise revenue shock All that's missing is the word fury from the headline, echo headline writer must be on holiday, is this really news?! martaaay2
  • Score: -1

10:12am Thu 21 Aug 14

WeymouthWheels says...

There's a limit on that section of road, so fair cop. You can't beat the system.

However, I live by a school and there is NEVER a camera car there - despite the obvious danger posed by speeding drivers and dozy parkers who block junctions. Yet the Police choose to set up a camera on a short stretch of two lane highway that link two 50mph sections of road.

If the authorities are so concerned about speeding at that point, maybe bigger signs or road markings would be a more honest way of enforcing it.
There's a limit on that section of road, so fair cop. You can't beat the system. However, I live by a school and there is NEVER a camera car there - despite the obvious danger posed by speeding drivers and dozy parkers who block junctions. Yet the Police choose to set up a camera on a short stretch of two lane highway that link two 50mph sections of road. If the authorities are so concerned about speeding at that point, maybe bigger signs or road markings would be a more honest way of enforcing it. WeymouthWheels
  • Score: 21

10:18am Thu 21 Aug 14

WeymouthWheels says...

angrydorseter wrote:
The Fish wrote:
angrydorseter wrote:
Jimmytheone wrote: The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights.
What rights? It is not illegal to photograph someone (or their car).
It is without their permission if it is going to be displayed - the Echo recently got caught and ended up having to 'blur' faces, number plates etc.
No. I suspect they voluntarily removed them because people like you were writing to them and it wasn't worth the hassle. How do you think post cards with high streets on etc are legal? Do you think they get permission from anyone in the picture? Same for news reports and landscape photos?
This is a murky area. While it's not illegal to take photographs of strangers, using their image for gain or reward without seeking their consent or permission is. As newspapers are in the business of making money, that would technically be an infringement of this.

That's why Google blur all faces on StreetView.
[quote][p][bold]angrydorseter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Fish[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angrydorseter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimmytheone[/bold] wrote: The fish in reply i did not see a camera but if these nobody's did and took a photograph of me and my car surely they are infringing my rights.[/p][/quote]What rights? It is not illegal to photograph someone (or their car).[/p][/quote]It is without their permission if it is going to be displayed - the Echo recently got caught and ended up having to 'blur' faces, number plates etc.[/p][/quote]No. I suspect they voluntarily removed them because people like you were writing to them and it wasn't worth the hassle. How do you think post cards with high streets on etc are legal? Do you think they get permission from anyone in the picture? Same for news reports and landscape photos?[/p][/quote]This is a murky area. While it's not illegal to take photographs of strangers, using their image for gain or reward without seeking their consent or permission is. As newspapers are in the business of making money, that would technically be an infringement of this. That's why Google blur all faces on StreetView. WeymouthWheels
  • Score: 3

11:12am Thu 21 Aug 14

shy talk says...

Mr Hansford doing 40mph approaching the Veasta roundabout from the Manor roundabout you are pushing your luck. Due to the camber of the corner you would have to brake hard or run the risk of over shooting into oncoming traffic.
Mr Hansford doing 40mph approaching the Veasta roundabout from the Manor roundabout you are pushing your luck. Due to the camber of the corner you would have to brake hard or run the risk of over shooting into oncoming traffic. shy talk
  • Score: 8

11:32am Thu 21 Aug 14

trymybest says...

MASK & SNORKEL wrote:
I think most drivers know this road is 30 mph. However, some drivers use the short stretch of road to overtake ( or undertake in some situations) and gain a few places in the traffic. Trying to pull out of the Manor roundabout is hard sometimes as vehicles often straight line the roundabout and are travelling at more than 30 mph.
l agree, also at Chaffey's roundabout it's 50 mph around that, try entering the roundabout from a standing position you will most times find a car suddenly entering the roundabout at speed then right up your bumper getting very irate because your in the way, all because some motorist think 50 is the minimum speed and all roundabouts on the relief road are 50 until they are caught. Also l was surprised to note there is no speed restrictions as you approach the pedestrian traffic lights before and just after the roundabout, glad l didn't have to stop at the lights or my irate speeder would have blown a gasket.
[quote][p][bold]MASK & SNORKEL[/bold] wrote: I think most drivers know this road is 30 mph. However, some drivers use the short stretch of road to overtake ( or undertake in some situations) and gain a few places in the traffic. Trying to pull out of the Manor roundabout is hard sometimes as vehicles often straight line the roundabout and are travelling at more than 30 mph.[/p][/quote]l agree, also at Chaffey's roundabout it's 50 mph around that, try entering the roundabout from a standing position you will most times find a car suddenly entering the roundabout at speed then right up your bumper getting very irate because your in the way, all because some motorist think 50 is the minimum speed and all roundabouts on the relief road are 50 until they are caught. Also l was surprised to note there is no speed restrictions as you approach the pedestrian traffic lights before and just after the roundabout, glad l didn't have to stop at the lights or my irate speeder would have blown a gasket. trymybest
  • Score: 3

11:45am Thu 21 Aug 14

Rugbygirl1979 says...

I got caught there too. Doing 37 MPH...... It's a fair cop........doing the course...first ticket ever!!!!!
I got caught there too. Doing 37 MPH...... It's a fair cop........doing the course...first ticket ever!!!!! Rugbygirl1979
  • Score: 29

12:14pm Thu 21 Aug 14

angrydorseter says...

Rugbygirl1979 wrote:
I got caught there too. Doing 37 MPH...... It's a fair cop........doing the course...first ticket ever!!!!!
You did something wrong, got caught and you admitted it and didn't moan. I wish more people were as honest as you.
[quote][p][bold]Rugbygirl1979[/bold] wrote: I got caught there too. Doing 37 MPH...... It's a fair cop........doing the course...first ticket ever!!!!![/p][/quote]You did something wrong, got caught and you admitted it and didn't moan. I wish more people were as honest as you. angrydorseter
  • Score: 25

12:19pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Not_A_Moronic_Thug says...

Crikey I doubt I'd manage to get my heap-o-junk up to 40mph on that short stretch of road, not without really trying, and you have to slow down again straight away for the next roundabout anyway!
Crikey I doubt I'd manage to get my heap-o-junk up to 40mph on that short stretch of road, not without really trying, and you have to slow down again straight away for the next roundabout anyway! Not_A_Moronic_Thug
  • Score: 12

12:23pm Thu 21 Aug 14

purple vonny says...

Oscar Tollast, the journalist who wrote this article, should get a fine for the apostrophe in the title.
Oscar Tollast, the journalist who wrote this article, should get a fine for the apostrophe in the title. purple vonny
  • Score: -5

12:26pm Thu 21 Aug 14

purple vonny says...

I apologise - I read it wrong!!
I apologise - I read it wrong!! purple vonny
  • Score: 8

12:38pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Top Gear says...

Speed traps have nothing to do with road safety....Its all about making money. That is why so many fixed cameras have been scrapped.
Just keep an eye out for the van with the blacked out window.
Speed traps have nothing to do with road safety....Its all about making money. That is why so many fixed cameras have been scrapped. Just keep an eye out for the van with the blacked out window. Top Gear
  • Score: 0

3:59pm Thu 21 Aug 14

seashellbill says...

Jimmytheone wrote:
I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information.
Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.
Jimmytheone - "busybodies in yellow coats" don't cause slow moving traffic. What they do is to ensure that drivers adhere to the appropriate speed limits. You ask if they have legal powers? Well, their powers are very limited. If you are found to be exceeding the speed limit by a nationally recognised amount then you will be reported to the police and will then either receive a letter from the police - or even a knock on the door from a police officer. get caught 3 times and you'll get a fine and points.
Oh and by the way I am a "busybody" I carry out speedwatch duties in my village, because I'm fed up with idiots speeding through the village.
If I'm a "busybody" then that probably makes you an "idiot" Oh and by the way, be aware that if those "busybodies" are accompanied by a police officer, it won't be a warning letter you receive, but a lovely little fine and 3 points on the licence.
[quote][p][bold]Jimmytheone[/bold] wrote: I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information. Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.[/p][/quote]Jimmytheone - "busybodies in yellow coats" don't cause slow moving traffic. What they do is to ensure that drivers adhere to the appropriate speed limits. You ask if they have legal powers? Well, their powers are very limited. If you are found to be exceeding the speed limit by a nationally recognised amount then you will be reported to the police and will then either receive a letter from the police - or even a knock on the door from a police officer. get caught 3 times and you'll get a fine and points. Oh and by the way I am a "busybody" I carry out speedwatch duties in my village, because I'm fed up with idiots speeding through the village. If I'm a "busybody" then that probably makes you an "idiot" Oh and by the way, be aware that if those "busybodies" are accompanied by a police officer, it won't be a warning letter you receive, but a lovely little fine and 3 points on the licence. seashellbill
  • Score: 0

4:13pm Thu 21 Aug 14

old bod says...

Jimmytheone wrote:
I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information. Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.
i remeber working here a few years ago with cars blasting past at high speed , good on the locals for getting the speed limit lowered , trouble with some drivers is that they only think of themselves and how fast they can get somewhere
[quote][p][bold]Jimmytheone[/bold] wrote: I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information. Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.[/p][/quote]i remeber working here a few years ago with cars blasting past at high speed , good on the locals for getting the speed limit lowered , trouble with some drivers is that they only think of themselves and how fast they can get somewhere old bod
  • Score: 6

4:16pm Thu 21 Aug 14

old bod says...

Jimmytheone wrote:
I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information. Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.
good for the locals for standing up to idiotic motorists who want to speed through thier village , time some motorists gave some thought to other people rather than just how fast they can get somewhere
[quote][p][bold]Jimmytheone[/bold] wrote: I apologise for moving away from this particular incident but i also require some speeding information. Yesterday whilst returning from Blandford I joined some very slow moving traffic entering Winterbourne Whitechurch.The half mile hold up was caused by four busy bodies in yellow coats called the community watch speed group armed with clip boards etc. stood by the side of the road. Could somebody tell me please do these nobodys have any legal rights or power. Can 4 nobodys stand by the road and take your details and cause a tail back. What is this all about can i form a vigilantly group to protect my rights.Lastly are they are on the subs bench for the community beat officer or third tier policing. What i saw was incredible in a democratic Dorset.[/p][/quote]good for the locals for standing up to idiotic motorists who want to speed through thier village , time some motorists gave some thought to other people rather than just how fast they can get somewhere old bod
  • Score: 3

6:20pm Thu 21 Aug 14

rosie_rabbit_rescue says...

I applaud this man for going to court! I got caught here too, first speeding offence ever!! But I've paid up and taken it on the chin. If we are all supposed to know the Highway Code so well then what's the point having speed limit signs in the first place!!! The sign is over grown and you can only see the sign clearly at a parallel position! There should be another sign on the start of that stretch of road like it does every where else. Everyone I have spoken to is unaware that it is 30 there. I hope he gets the outcome he deserves!
I applaud this man for going to court! I got caught here too, first speeding offence ever!! But I've paid up and taken it on the chin. If we are all supposed to know the Highway Code so well then what's the point having speed limit signs in the first place!!! The sign is over grown and you can only see the sign clearly at a parallel position! There should be another sign on the start of that stretch of road like it does every where else. Everyone I have spoken to is unaware that it is 30 there. I hope he gets the outcome he deserves! rosie_rabbit_rescue
  • Score: -17

7:33pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Genghis says...

Top Gear wrote:
Speed traps have nothing to do with road safety....Its all about making money. That is why so many fixed cameras have been scrapped.
Just keep an eye out for the van with the blacked out window.
Or, better still, don't drive over the speed limit, That way, there would be no need to keep an eye out for the van with the blacked out window.
[quote][p][bold]Top Gear[/bold] wrote: Speed traps have nothing to do with road safety....Its all about making money. That is why so many fixed cameras have been scrapped. Just keep an eye out for the van with the blacked out window.[/p][/quote]Or, better still, don't drive over the speed limit, That way, there would be no need to keep an eye out for the van with the blacked out window. Genghis
  • Score: 2

9:59pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Top Gear says...

Speed never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.
Speed never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you. Top Gear
  • Score: -2

7:57am Fri 22 Aug 14

IslandJim1 says...

rosie_rabbit_rescue wrote:
I applaud this man for going to court! I got caught here too, first speeding offence ever!! But I've paid up and taken it on the chin. If we are all supposed to know the Highway Code so well then what's the point having speed limit signs in the first place!!! The sign is over grown and you can only see the sign clearly at a parallel position! There should be another sign on the start of that stretch of road like it does every where else. Everyone I have spoken to is unaware that it is 30 there. I hope he gets the outcome he deserves!
Knowing the Highway code is the ability to recognise and abide by the signs you see on the road, including speed limits!! No one expects you to know the speed limit of every road in the country, but having passed a driving theory test one would at least hope that you have a basic grasp of what a built up area is, and what street lighting at close interval spacing means. Ignorance of the law is no excuse! I hope he gets the book (the highway code) thrown at him.
[quote][p][bold]rosie_rabbit_rescue[/bold] wrote: I applaud this man for going to court! I got caught here too, first speeding offence ever!! But I've paid up and taken it on the chin. If we are all supposed to know the Highway Code so well then what's the point having speed limit signs in the first place!!! The sign is over grown and you can only see the sign clearly at a parallel position! There should be another sign on the start of that stretch of road like it does every where else. Everyone I have spoken to is unaware that it is 30 there. I hope he gets the outcome he deserves![/p][/quote]Knowing the Highway code is the ability to recognise and abide by the signs you see on the road, including speed limits!! No one expects you to know the speed limit of every road in the country, but having passed a driving theory test one would at least hope that you have a basic grasp of what a built up area is, and what street lighting at close interval spacing means. Ignorance of the law is no excuse! I hope he gets the book (the highway code) thrown at him. IslandJim1
  • Score: 8

9:38am Fri 22 Aug 14

weymouthgirlie says...

I knew it was 30mph. Anyway if these people drove out of weymouth on that route I would assume they come back the same way and would see it was 30mph when you reach the veasta roundabout so why would it be 30mph into Weymouth and 50mph out of weymouth? It wouldn't, case closed.
I knew it was 30mph. Anyway if these people drove out of weymouth on that route I would assume they come back the same way and would see it was 30mph when you reach the veasta roundabout so why would it be 30mph into Weymouth and 50mph out of weymouth? It wouldn't, case closed. weymouthgirlie
  • Score: 3

10:53am Fri 22 Aug 14

Artstudent says...

It's a trap!
Has he not noticed the rest of the traffic doing 30mph while he is pushing 50mph?
And how many times has he gone along there, presumably in each direction, at nearly 20mph faster than everyone else?
He is admitting to being a prolific, repeat offending, dangerous driver in an attempt to avoid paying a fine for an offence he admits his guilt to.
Should the rest of us not be notified as to what car Mr Hansford drives so as we can avoid being caught up in any accident he is more than likely to cause?
Ignorance is no defence.
It's a trap! Has he not noticed the rest of the traffic doing 30mph while he is pushing 50mph? And how many times has he gone along there, presumably in each direction, at nearly 20mph faster than everyone else? He is admitting to being a prolific, repeat offending, dangerous driver in an attempt to avoid paying a fine for an offence he admits his guilt to. Should the rest of us not be notified as to what car Mr Hansford drives so as we can avoid being caught up in any accident he is more than likely to cause? Ignorance is no defence. Artstudent
  • Score: 4

11:44am Fri 22 Aug 14

whatever66 says...

Top Gear wrote:
Speed traps have nothing to do with road safety....Its all about making money. That is why so many fixed cameras have been scrapped.
Just keep an eye out for the van with the blacked out window.
Be careful.... as the recently deceased Max who informed his friends on fb on the mobile camera vans being about was accused of all sorts for having it on his own facebook page.
[quote][p][bold]Top Gear[/bold] wrote: Speed traps have nothing to do with road safety....Its all about making money. That is why so many fixed cameras have been scrapped. Just keep an eye out for the van with the blacked out window.[/p][/quote]Be careful.... as the recently deceased Max who informed his friends on fb on the mobile camera vans being about was accused of all sorts for having it on his own facebook page. whatever66
  • Score: -1

12:43pm Fri 22 Aug 14

holliekearns says...

"It also ensures that drivers are driving at an appropriate speed on the approaches to the roundabouts.” ... What about the roundabout that you approach to go to Dorchester or Broadwey, that's on a 50mph limit.
"It also ensures that drivers are driving at an appropriate speed on the approaches to the roundabouts.” ... What about the roundabout that you approach to go to Dorchester or Broadwey, that's on a 50mph limit. holliekearns
  • Score: 1

3:17pm Fri 22 Aug 14

trymybest says...

rosie_rabbit_rescue wrote:
I applaud this man for going to court! I got caught here too, first speeding offence ever!! But I've paid up and taken it on the chin. If we are all supposed to know the Highway Code so well then what's the point having speed limit signs in the first place!!! The sign is over grown and you can only see the sign clearly at a parallel position! There should be another sign on the start of that stretch of road like it does every where else. Everyone I have spoken to is unaware that it is 30 there. I hope he gets the outcome he deserves!
There is a 30mph sign is on BOTH sides of the road as you approach the roundabout on the from Weymouth way exit. Everyone you have spoken to is unaware the it's 30 there is because they are driving to FAST to see. The camera van should be there more often to enlighten you.
[quote][p][bold]rosie_rabbit_rescue[/bold] wrote: I applaud this man for going to court! I got caught here too, first speeding offence ever!! But I've paid up and taken it on the chin. If we are all supposed to know the Highway Code so well then what's the point having speed limit signs in the first place!!! The sign is over grown and you can only see the sign clearly at a parallel position! There should be another sign on the start of that stretch of road like it does every where else. Everyone I have spoken to is unaware that it is 30 there. I hope he gets the outcome he deserves![/p][/quote]There is a 30mph sign is on BOTH sides of the road as you approach the roundabout on the from Weymouth way exit. Everyone you have spoken to is unaware the it's 30 there is because they are driving to FAST to see. The camera van should be there more often to enlighten you. trymybest
  • Score: 1

7:13pm Fri 22 Aug 14

JACKC says...

I do NOT believe that all those of you who have been spouting on about this driver doing over the speed limit, have NOT exceeded the speed limit yourselves at some time. There ARE places where the speed limit should be raised, and others where is should be reduced (like the Chaffey's roundabout for example) Perhaps these traffic police would be better placed along the Radipole Lane area (try getting across THAT road if you've just got off a bus and are elderly), or the stretch into town where some drivers think they are in the Grand Prix, despite the recent tragedies on that road. I do not agree with them sitting in areas where you are either going down/up a hill, or accelerating off a roundabout where you can easily go over (sometimes only just) the 30 limit in seconds without realizing. I've seen plenty of police cars pulling away from me doing the speed limit and they're not on a blue light. Perhaps I'll start taking their numbers..........
I do NOT believe that all those of you who have been spouting on about this driver doing over the speed limit, have NOT exceeded the speed limit yourselves at some time. There ARE places where the speed limit should be raised, and others where is should be reduced (like the Chaffey's roundabout for example) Perhaps these traffic police would be better placed along the Radipole Lane area (try getting across THAT road if you've just got off a bus and are elderly), or the stretch into town where some drivers think they are in the Grand Prix, despite the recent tragedies on that road. I do not agree with them sitting in areas where you are either going down/up a hill, or accelerating off a roundabout where you can easily go over (sometimes only just) the 30 limit in seconds without realizing. I've seen plenty of police cars pulling away from me doing the speed limit and they're not on a blue light. Perhaps I'll start taking their numbers.......... JACKC
  • Score: 0

3:21pm Sat 23 Aug 14

CoogarUK.com says...

"Dorchester resident Mr Hansford, owner of the Vintage shop in Weymouth, travels along Weymouth Way and the Weymouth Relief Road, every day."

Yet he doesn't know the speed limit, or so we are led to believe. Perhaps he should be ordered to retake his driving test too, in that case.
"Dorchester resident Mr Hansford, owner of the Vintage shop in Weymouth, travels along Weymouth Way and the Weymouth Relief Road, every day." Yet he doesn't know the speed limit, or so we are led to believe. Perhaps he should be ordered to retake his driving test too, in that case. CoogarUK.com
  • Score: 3

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