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10:00am Saturday 28th April 2007

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A BAKER has been forced to rename her novelty pig tarts - because they don't contain any pork.

Val Temple, who runs Sgt Bun Bakery, Weymouth, says officers from Dorset's trading standards department also told her she must swap the name of robin tarts as they are not made from robins.

And she claims she was instructed to rename her paradise slice because ... it's not from paradise.

Mrs Temple has made the novelty cakes in the shape of pigs and robins as a treat for her customers for years.

She said: "It's a joke.

"The officers came in and said they had had a complaint and I must change the names because they didn't contain pork, robin or paradise.

"It's an insult to the public. Of course they don't contain pig, robin or paradise.

"The trading standards officers have been coming into this shop for 26 years and now the name has been picked up.

"It's absolutely ridiculous. Are they going to start banning Christmas cake because it doesn't have Jesus in it?

"You could apply it to everything. It's so silly.

"And as for the paradise slice, that recipe is 120 years old and it's always been known as Paradise Slice.

"They said they were going to come back in and check, so I've changed the names now.

"But people are still coming in and calling them by their proper names."

Mrs Temple said she had swapped the name of her animal-inspired tarts to novelty tarts with jam and fondant and the paradise slice to almond, fruit and nut slice.

Ivan Hancock, the county's trading standards manager, said: "The fact is that piece of food needs to be properly described so that the consumer can tell what it is.

"There's nothing wrong with using other names but it must be accompanied by the true name of the food.

"Consumers have the right to know what is in food."

But Mrs Temple, who runs the bakers with her husband Ian, denied she was told this.

She said: "The way they came in and said the names had to be changed didn't give me the impression you could keep the names.

"I'm sure other places haven't been told they should list all the ingredients. It's ridiculous having a long list of ingredients - of course customers are not going to think I put robin and pork in a cake."



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Scolopax, says...
12:24pm Sat 28 Apr 07

Surely, it's April 1st again!

Brioche, 101-759 says...
12:27pm Sat 28 Apr 07

I trust Val's stopped selling Eccles Cakes, Belgian Buns, Chelsea Buns, Bakewell Tart...

Albo, Wyke Regis says...
1:21pm Sat 28 Apr 07

So, when I went to Dorset Trading standards after getting royally ripped off by dodgy tradesmen, they said they were too busy to handle the case.

Now I can see why.

Three cheers for Dorset Trading Standards - cracking down on the real criminals!

Bitter? Me?

ian, says...
2:36pm Sat 28 Apr 07

No the real culprit here is the English people who cow-tow to this utter nonsense from the state.

Don't worry it will only get worse!


Arnie, U.S. says...
2:45pm Sat 28 Apr 07

How can you not expect to have delicious robin's in a tart. We have blackbirds in a tart why not robins?
Toad's must be in toad in the hole, dammit!
I demmand my breakfast actually bubble when asked and squeak when prodded with my fork. Standards must be improved to serve and protect the English public. Who is here to protect us? Why Trading Standards officers of course!

Note the sarcasim, this is pathetic can we please elect people that will stop this nonsense?


Oh btw whatever happened that 2 million pounds the ocal council 'lost'?

Albo, Wyke Regis says...
4:25pm Sat 28 Apr 07

You've also got to question the mentality of the one person who complained. Were they born miserable?

Additional to Dorset Trading Standards: There is no reason why Sgt Bun can't sell Paradise Slices, because there is no such place you bunch of awful cake-banning, non-cowboy-builder-chasing Jobsworths.

That's it. I'm so angry, I'm writing to Esther Rantsen.

Dee, Bridport says...
4:42pm Sat 28 Apr 07

Crikey - what is Spotted Dick made of then?

ian, says...
4:45pm Sat 28 Apr 07

Dee wrote:
Crikey - what is Spotted Dick made of then?
Dunno but I have heard there is a cream you can get for it :-)

ian, 054-035 says...
6:06pm Sat 28 Apr 07

Albo wrote:
You\'ve also got to question the mentality of the one person who complained. Were they born miserable?

Additional to Dorset Trading Standards: There is no reason why Sgt Bun can\'t sell Paradise Slices, because there is no such place you bunch of awful cake-banning, non-cowboy-builder-chasing Jobsworths.

That\'s it. I\'m so angry, I\'m writing to Esther Rantsen.
Albo, I do respect a good rant ! and as well spoken as yours is it is said with a hint of comedy, I think perhaps such matters should be treated more seriously, after all were does this kind of lunacy end?

How proud we should be to live in a country that was once the worlds greatest power and inventors....then to be reduced to this.

Jesus H himself "I'm a real Englishman, get me out of here"

Scolopax, says...
7:15pm Sat 28 Apr 07

Of course 'Lardy Cake' can legitimately be renamed 'Pig cake' since it (presumably) contains Lard (which is rendered from pig fat) this is going to get very confusing.
Does that mean all they 'Froggie in Canoe' cakes weren't real... Canoes? I just wish I'd been in the shp at the time.

Tip top, says...
8:16pm Sat 28 Apr 07

I jolly well hope their jam roly poly has some overweight tap dancers in it, or I'm taking it back.

k, dorset says...
8:36pm Sat 28 Apr 07

does this mean with a swiss roll ,,im going to get a hunky swiss guy to roll around with .. any body want DOUBLE cream with that???

viv brown, Bradford, Ontario. Canada says...
8:48pm Sat 28 Apr 07

So now must we put angels in 'Angel Cake"? How pathetic!!

Righteous, says...
9:24pm Sat 28 Apr 07

According to section 4.2 of the Dorset County Council Trading Standards Service Food Service Plan 2006-7:

“This year the Service will focus on high risk inspection visits as a priority with some medium risk businesses being visited through targeted audits to address particular areas of non-compliance…It is estimated that for the delivery of this plan, resources will total 3.5fte and £17,500 for sampling and analysis”.

Glad to see our council tax is being spent on urgent, earth-shattering issues such as 'pig cakes'...NOT!

ian, says...
10:13pm Sat 28 Apr 07

The saddest thing is that all you twits posting here do so....half hearted and with comedy. Shortly, like slaves you will vote for the same people as always.

You desrve everything you get !



william pulman, army foundation college harrogate pharmacy says...
10:25pm Sat 28 Apr 07

what a load of b*ll*x! and as there is a meal containing them you can sell it! i've known val and ian (and samantha and justin) since 1988 and the whole of weymouth portland and most of dorset that has ever bought anything from these genius's of bakery and marketing know val would never put a robin or frog in a sweet meal cake. what tosh the fool that complained is talking, he she or maybe it should've packed off into the desert 1000years agao. the world began to go mad after 31st december 19999. the millenium has knackered many minds and ideas. well im outraged despite being up here at my military post in north yorkshire. trading standards should wake up and smell the pastry.

Scolopax, says...
10:28pm Sat 28 Apr 07

Ian, get a life, when you grow up you'll understand what it's all about.

Catherine, POOLE says...
10:32am Sun 29 Apr 07

That has to be the most ridiculous article that I have come across for a very long time.

So where does the shepherd come into Shepherds Pie and the Cottage come into Cottage Pie?

Surely trading standards have something more important to spend their time on, or are they yet another waste of money!!

What about Billy Bob meat that they sell to children on the deli at Morrisons?

Mrs Temple I think you should challenge this but I do hope that you gain lots of increased business from the press, thanks to trading standards.

ian, says...
10:47am Sun 29 Apr 07

Scolopax wrote:
Ian, get a life, when you grow up you\'ll understand what it\'s all about.
Explain then moron!


Albo, Wyke Regis says...
11:28am Sun 29 Apr 07

Ian: In the 30s the Berlin Dada-ists protested against the rise of Hitler by laughing at the Nazis.

Seventy years later, we can do the same thing by laughing at the ridiculous officials that are running us into the ground.

I lost ten grand to a shonky builder, and know of others who were ripped off by the same guy. Sgt Bun were selling humourous cakes. Guess who Dorset Trading Standards were more interested in?

I think I've earned the right to take the mick.

IAN, says...
11:40am Sun 29 Apr 07

Nicely put Albo, never looked at it that way before, and yes under them circumstances you have earned the right to laugh...I'm just glad you still can after that.

B, Dorset says...
11:44am Sun 29 Apr 07

Some person somewhere decided to take this action. Who?

What are the officer's names? If they were doing their job properly they should not mind their friends and neighbours knowing who they are. They may even enjoy hogging the lime light.

It makes me pig sick. Stick the commonsense-challenged bureaucrats behind this in a plastic bag, weight it down with pig iron and chuck it into the Bay of Pigs.

I notice that according to the Chinese zodiac, we are now in the year of the pig, hence I suspect this was probably due to anti-Chinese sentiments.

Richard Nunn, Texas,USA says...
1:21pm Sun 29 Apr 07

What in the name of GOD is wrong with you people. You don't have to put up with this kind of trash from your government. They are not your Mother. VOTE THEM OUT!!

Scolopax, says...
1:27pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Firstly, I am not a 'moron' that refers to a person who by, virtue of a genetic disorder, has a mental age of between 8 and 12 but who in fact is older. I am in fact in my late fourties. The use of the term moron is often considered offensive but I take no offense. The point is we 'twits' as you put, are simply making amusing observations over an issue about which we feel strongly, Albo has put it very succinctly (thanks Albo). Your reference to the ballot box is well meant (i.e. we put the same people back in power) however the way you have expressed it is negative, offensive and immature. In summary don't take life too seriously, you can't change the world overnight.

Ian H, weymouth says...
1:28pm Sun 29 Apr 07

somebody better tell them to get down to ASDA quickly and get them wo withdraw there tiger bread and hedgehog loaf before this atrocity continues!!

ian, says...
2:31pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Scolopax your initial comment to me was exactly what you accuse me of being. Stop being a hypocrite.

Steve I, Portland says...
2:33pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Don't forget the fingers in fish fingers!

ian, says...
2:40pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Richard Nunn wrote:
What in the name of GOD is wrong with you people. You don\'t have to put up with this kind of trash from your government. They are not your Mother. VOTE THEM OUT!!
Vote them out and replace them with what mate? They are the same breed! Those who get in with best intentions usually get shoved out if they rock the boat too much.

Keith Loyd, Dallas, Texas says...
3:19pm Sun 29 Apr 07

"If ye love wealth better than liberty and the tranquility of servitude better than the animated contest of freedom, then crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains sit lightly on you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen...go from us in peace, we ask not your counsel or your arms."
-Samuel Adams, Revolutionary War, USA

Peter Morton, Dubai says...
3:22pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Well thelunatics are at last running the asylum. Where on earth do these rules and regulations come from and even worse where do they fine the morons that police them!!!.

Scott, Deltona, FL, USA says...
3:23pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Did you ever think to just tell them "NO"? Remember, we still outnumber these clowns who can't do anything else but poke their noses into other peoples' business in the name of government.

Loren, Las Vegas, Nv says...
3:26pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Suppose she didn't make the proper payoff?

ian, says...
3:36pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Lesson about the English culture (to our U.S cousins)

The English are, over the centuries brainwashed into doing what Authority tells them without argument or question, if one does either it is the duty of others to mock them loudly to make themselves look big or support them anonymously as long as there is no risk to themselves.

Who knows time may be changing though maybe the average Brit might start getting off his backside and saying NO MORE?


steb, chicago says...
3:48pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Coca-Cola.
Named after original ingredients, Cocaine and the Cola Nut. It no longer uses either.

Coca-Cola.



ENJOY

pingu, Weymouth says...
3:50pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Dorset Trading Standards clearly don't have enough work to keep themselves usefully occupied. It is clear who the first candidates must be when DCC next look for cuts.

ian, says...
4:15pm Sun 29 Apr 07

pingu wrote:
Dorset Trading Standards clearly don't have enough work to keep themselves usefully occupied. It is clear who the first candidates must be when DCC next look for cuts.
Just see this on another forum,I think it speaks volumes about this country!!

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/281106nazichic.htm

Steve Bassett, Westham, Weymouth says...
4:37pm Sun 29 Apr 07

How disappointing was my Admirals Pie today, for dessert I had Missisipi Mud Pie guess what full of chcolate and sponge what a rip-off!

yoso, NOT England says...
4:48pm Sun 29 Apr 07

The trading standards department needs to change it's name as well. Why? Because it doesn't TRADE.

ian, says...
5:02pm Sun 29 Apr 07

yoso wrote:
The trading standards department needs to change it's name as well. Why? Because it doesn't TRADE.
That's my favourite yet !


Mike, USA says...
5:33pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Maybe she should name an item "Ivan Hancock needs to get a life Apple Pie."

Pete, Dorchester says...
6:03pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Does this mean that all the local Dorset bakerys have to prove that the apples in a Dorset Apple Cake were grafted, grown and harvested in Dorset, or have we now got to change a centuries old name and recipe

swisstony, weymouth says...
6:26pm Sun 29 Apr 07

I am afraid that all this demonstrates is the fact that there is a serious problem with our local trading standards. In this case they are manifestly acting against the public interest. Somebody is responsible and that person must be held to account. Only by taking a firm stand against this sort of nonsense will we start to eradicate it!

dorsetpoliticalcomment.blog.co.uk

B, Dorset says...
6:49pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Keith Loyd wrote:
"If ye love wealth better than liberty and the tranquility of servitude better than the animated contest of freedom, then crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains sit lightly on you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen...go from us in peace, we ask not your counsel or your arms." -Samuel Adams, Revolutionary War, USA
Well said mate.

Mind you we might be called terrorists by your president.

bboo, bboo land says...
6:59pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Its obviously easier to pick on an old lady than to catch the shed loads of pirate DVD's sellers that are on every street corner and in every pub.

chris, boston, ma, us says...
7:46pm Sun 29 Apr 07

thanks for making a fuss, all

the only point, though, is to make it big enough

chris, boston, ma, us says...
7:49pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Scolopax wrote:
Ian, get a life, when you grow up you'll understand what it's all about.
i disagree.

what, then, is the proper age to understand the world?

AL44, Weymouth says...
8:14pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Richard Nunn wrote:
What in the name of GOD is wrong with you people. You don't have to put up with this kind of trash from your government. They are not your Mother. VOTE THEM OUT!!
I realise Richard that you are from Texas and so probably support George W. Bush. However like many of your fellow countrymen probably feel, many of us did not vote for the government we currently have. Without PR in this country, many millions of us will remain unrepresented in the political arena and as a result half wits and liars will remain in power.

Its obviously easier to pick on an old lady than to catch the shed loads of pirate DVD's sellers that are on every street corner and in every pub.

And bboo- I know the family who run Sgt Bun's (they are very nice) and Mrs Temple is far from an old lady!

D, Bournemouth says...
8:18pm Sun 29 Apr 07

I'm feeling peckish would someone be kind enough and get me a MARS bar

Many Thanks

Catherine, Poole says...
9:15pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Having visited a pub on the harbourside this evening, I was extremely disappointed with my two cocktails, Screaming Org*sm and S*x on the Beach, I don't recal an org*sm and I remain a virgin!

I will be contacting trading standards first thing tomorrow morning to ensure that they investigate this and I'll be demanding my money back!

I'm so disappointed I need a sugar fix, someone send me a Pig Tart!

Mike, says...
9:59pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Catherine,
If you can assure me that you don't display the effects of two many sugar fixes, I'b be only too pleased to serve you a stronger version of the two cocktails that have left you so badly disappointed. In fact, I'll keep serving for as long as it takes to leave you well and truly satisfied!

Bob Howell, Pemaquid USA says...
10:05pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Great to read so many comments from the colonies--where things are no better!

Bob Howell, Pemaquid USA says...
10:06pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Great to read so many comments from the colonies--where things are no better!

Mike, says...
10:27pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Just sent to my councillors, CC Trading Standards Dept.

Dear Councillor,

Can you please advise me of the qualifications required for the position of Trading Standards Officer, and why common sense is not one of them?

I believe the following link will explain all. <http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/display.var.1362517.0.0.php#comments>

Whilst I await your response, I shall continue to nibble my Gypsy Tart.


B, Dorset says...
10:55pm Sun 29 Apr 07

The "Echo" lives up to its name, as Bob Howell will testify. The "Echo" lives up to its name, as Bob Howell will testify.

ian, says...
10:55pm Sun 29 Apr 07

Mike wrote:
Just sent to my councillors, CC Trading Standards Dept.

Dear Councillor,

Can you please advise me of the qualifications required for the position of Trading Standards Officer, and why common sense is not one of them?

I believe the following link will explain all. <http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/display.var.1362517.0.0.php#comments>

Whilst I await your response, I shall continue to nibble my Gypsy Tart.

You may do better to actually ask (or perhaps the echo should have?) why other products in supermarkets with similar names are not acted upon?

B, Dorset says...
10:56pm Sun 29 Apr 07

The "Echo" lives up to its name, as Bob Howell will testify. The "Echo" lives up to its name, as Bob Howell will testify.

Steve Turpin, Derbyshire via Hampshire says...
11:28pm Sun 29 Apr 07

We pay the wages of these people. We should be picketing the town halls demanding these idiots are sacked as they have no common sense. We are sleepwalking into a Kafkaesque nightmare and it has to be stopped.

Steve I, Portland says...
12:08am Mon 30 Apr 07

They complain for finding no pork in a pig tart, but would also complain if someone planted a rock in their rock cake!

Alan Clifford, Guildford says...
12:52am Mon 30 Apr 07

Just call it "Unnamed tart" then in brackets "(formally known as pig tart)"

Kathryn, Beverly Hills, CA, USA says...
4:04am Mon 30 Apr 07

Sh!t on Shingles, Girl Scout cookies, Baked Alaska, fettucini Alfredo, Caesar Salad, Asian anything, sponge cake, French Fries, Rocky Road (candy or ice cream), Quiche Lorraine - come on, Folks! I'd make a complaint if these names were accurate , not vice-versa! Unless, of course, we're talking about a Sloe Screw Against the Wall. For that, I would make an exception. :)

curt, az. U.S.A. says...
7:10am Mon 30 Apr 07

Mmmmm-- nibling Gypsy tarts.. oh.. Ahem. Throwing the fools out of office seems to be a bit complicated in your area, but can't you get yourself going to run for the appropriate positions yourself? This sort of horse pucky only gets worse if you don't scoop it up and dispose of properly.

Lani, Qld, Australia says...
7:55am Mon 30 Apr 07

so do girl guide biscuits contain real girl guides??
and would we have to change the name of every KFC franchise in Australia that advertises their chicken as being Australian owned? and should we close down every Red Rooster franchise who uses chicken in their meals instead of Rooster meat?
and what would my mother change the name of her tuna surprise to? ("surprise! there's no tuna!")
and my god the cocktail names (hehe, won't be able to call them cocktails anymore;)) slippery nipple, screaming ****, scotch on the rocks, white russian? and coffee! I'd like a flat white/short black/babycino.
HAVOC I TELL YOU!

Corncerned Dorset Resident, Dorset says...
9:01am Mon 30 Apr 07

Steve Turpin wrote:
We pay the wages of these people. We should be picketing the town halls demanding these idiots are sacked as they have no common sense. We are sleepwalking into a Kafkaesque nightmare and it has to be stopped.
Our famous Dorset Nobs don't contain an Trading Standards officers. Ban them quick!

Grumpy, weymouth says...
12:28pm Mon 30 Apr 07

The trading standards joker should be sacked.The list of oddly name food and drink is endless.(I was dissapointed with my Manchester Tart) Unfortunatly however we vote on Thursday I suspect this idiot will keep his job.As I pay a percentage of his wages.I think this has to be one of the most blatant wastes of money I have ever seen.No wonder this bourough cannot afford to give the local population decent services.

glyn rees, oxford says...
1:03pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Please can you let the world know where we can contact the trading standards office in Dorset so that we can make our feelings known.How would they cope with baby's heads?

Unnamed, ****, Michigan says...
1:35pm Mon 30 Apr 07

This is pathetic. What next, cookies banned because they don't contain cooks?

Jay Morgan, Atlanta, GA says...
2:10pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Hmmm... Looking at their website (http://sgtbun.com/new1/Afewofourcakes.htm) they may have to rename their clown cake too. That is unless there really IS clown in that cake!

AL44, says...
2:10pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Posted by: glyn rees, oxford on Today
Please can you let the world know where we can contact the trading standards office in Dorset so that we can make our feelings known.How would they cope with baby's heads?
Please can you let the world know where we can contact the trading standards office in Dorset so that we can make our feelings known.How would they cope with baby's heads?

The contact details are on the dorsetforyou.com website. However I notice the consumer advice web link does not work - probably been overwhelmed by the response to the news!

John, Ohio USA says...
2:19pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Will Ivan Hancock be receiving entry into the Order of the Garter for this quick action that has saved many Britons from this shame of porkless pig tarts and robinless robin tarts? Has the Queen been made aware of Mr. Hancock's loyal service to her Majesty? Maybe he'll receive a knightship. If he does I hope they server pork tarts. Oh I mean novelty tarts with jam and fondant.

Bill Blunt, Lancashire says...
2:24pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Sir
This is political correctness gone mad.

http://bluntbyname.blogspot.com/2007/04/analyse-this.html

Yours sincerely

Bill Blunt

Paul, London says...
2:50pm Mon 30 Apr 07

On a more serious note, had this been my bakery business I would have told these 'officers' to get lost and, if necessary, have called the police to have them removed from my shop. I would have absolutely refused to rename these novelty cakes and challenged the local council to take me to court if necessary. I cannot find one shred of litigation to back up these demands - foodstuffs all over the world are often given ridiculous names. Civil servants are precisely that and must be constantly reminded of this. NEVER give up when you know your're in the right!

Paul.

B, Dorset says...
3:36pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Paul wrote:
On a more serious note, had this been my bakery business I would have told these 'officers' to get lost and, if necessary, have called the police to have them removed from my shop. I would have absolutely refused to rename these novelty cakes and challenged the local council to take me to court if necessary. I cannot find one shred of litigation to back up these demands - foodstuffs all over the world are often given ridiculous names. Civil servants are precisely that and must be constantly reminded of this. NEVER give up when you know your're in the right! Paul.
Mostly they are neither civil nor do they act as servants. They should be renamed.

The Trading Standards Office should carry a written warningon their logo: "may contain nuts " and "civil Servants can seriously damage your wealth" .

sean, usa says...
3:40pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Does she sell "spring surprise"?

B, Dorset says...
3:46pm Mon 30 Apr 07

glyn rees wrote:
Please can you let the world know where we can contact the trading standards office in Dorset so that we can make our feelings known.How would they cope with baby's heads?
The land address is

Trading Standards
County Hall,
Colliton Park, Dorchester
DT1 1XJ

Tels. +44 (0)1305 224702
(business advice)

+44 (0)1202 224012 (consumer protection)

Vote For Smaller Govt, says...
3:51pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Maybe the pig was offending some Muslims that were coming into their shop. We wouldn't want to offend anyone, now would we? Oh the thought of some nice juicy pork chops on the grill with some barbaque sauce... yummy!!!

MaryH, Devon says...
4:13pm Mon 30 Apr 07

It's just going overboard, isn't it? Common sense has totally left these islands and been replaced with a nursery-school playground mentality! Which is perfectly fine and to be expected in a nursery-school playground, but in so-called GROWN-UPS?!!

I'd think I'd be dreadfully disappointed if Singin' Hinnies (from the north-east) didn't give me a sudden burst of La Taviata or Aida before I ate them! Would I get my money back if they didn't?

Tim Pascoe, Southampton says...
4:51pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Don't give in. Play them at their own game. Just insert NOT before all your novelty cakes e.g. NOT Pig Tart..you keep the name and Dorset Trading Standards can stuff it!!!

John, DC, USA says...
6:26pm Mon 30 Apr 07

It's easy: just name them "NOT Pig Tarts" and "NOT Paradise Slice" as in "Yes, I'll have two NOT Pig Tarts and 1 NOT Paradise Slice please."

Satisfies the idiots in the bureaucracy and let's customers and the owners laugh at them at the same time.

John, DC, USA says...
6:27pm Mon 30 Apr 07

I guess I should have read Tim Pascoe's comment before posting mine.

Seems great minds think alike . . . and so do we. ;-)

ian, says...
6:29pm Mon 30 Apr 07

This is some of the best humour I have seen on here in ages !!

NICE ONE !

...will all motor retailers have to put things on cars?...may contain traces of BMW on Mini's :-)


Andrew Loudon, Bridport, Dorset, UK says...
6:59pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Yes - I agree with Tim and John, call them NOT Pig Tarts etc - definitely :-)

Chris Neal, says...
7:06pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Dorset Trading Standards were quite right to require the names to be changed. I have compained to them about another misleading name ......................... gingerbread men.

Righteous, Weymouth says...
7:15pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Feel strongly about this issue?

Sign the petition and save our pig tarts!
http://pigtarts.blogspot.com

David Brown, Southern France says...
7:31pm today Mon 30 Apr 07

I assume from the article that they will now prosecute Tesco for selling Coca Cola without coca leaves (or without a doctor's prescription) and the other place for selling Mince Pies without mince. If they don't then there should be an enquiry to establish if or not they are being even-handed.

This is the sort of thing which sends 1000 people a day abroad to find sanity.

Valerie, Florida, USA says...
7:50pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Now you see why we left you all. The British are utterly ridiculous.

bill reith, United States says...
8:04pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Bureaucracy doesn't have to make sense... and neither precedent nor logic seem an adequate defense. Pity.

Blaine, USA says...
8:47pm Mon 30 Apr 07

This is what supporting a liberal-nanny state gets you. It will only get worse and more invasive.

grandadwoof, Stubbington says...
8:51pm Mon 30 Apr 07

What a crop of plonkers you lovely Dorset folk have in your local TS office...
Has it occured to anyone to ask if the complainant might be in the bakery business?
Just a thought... x

Paul, USA says...
8:58pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Truly the acerbic P.J. O'Rourke was correct when he called legislators "national busybodies" and government a "Parliament of Whores," regardless of its location.

andy, portland says...
9:10pm Mon 30 Apr 07

http://pigtarts.blogspot.com

id urge people to emails this to all they know. the more support the better!


i really hope this makes have i got news for you :)

Pat, Washington State USA says...
9:14pm Mon 30 Apr 07

These officials wouldn't be from the Hygiene Squad, as in the Monty Python sketch about "Whizzo Chocolates", would they?

Peter, Edmonton, Canada says...
9:16pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Where are John Cleese and the gang when you need someone to send this up in the manner it so richly deserves? Good luck with the petition and I hope the bakery gets more business than it can handle. If I were on the right side of the Atlantic I would go out of my way to give them my business. The "Idiocracy" is alive and well - we don't have to wait 500 years for it to arrive.

john, suffolk says...
10:54pm Mon 30 Apr 07

I bought a currant bun once. I took it back to the shop, because when I connected a bulb to it, it didn't light up.

Ian, Haslemere says...
10:58pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Just another acutely depressing example of the stupid bureaucracy that has blossomed with the one million additional civil servants employed by Mr Blair's fascile government, at our expense, since 1997. Just tell them to shove off and wait for them to take you to court. They won't, of course, because it would be laughed out!

Mike P, says...
11:25pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Frankly, this is nonsense. Only pre-packaged food requires ingredient labelling. There is no legal requirement for bakers to list the ingredients of fresh produce sold in their shops. End of story. Sorry folks!

B, Dorset says...
11:28pm Mon 30 Apr 07

I think Trading Standards have a point. Misrepresentation can be very worrying.

I was once asked if I fancied a brownie. I denied it and told him I gave them up as soon as I was 12. But he had me worried.

Personally I feel sorry for those poor little porcine foetuses poking there noses through all that brown gravy.

Old Boy, Broadwey says...
11:32pm Mon 30 Apr 07

Council Tax..EU Directives...Tony Blair..Gordon Brown..now pig tarts! 10 years in the wilderness! I'm off for me bangers & mash!

Iona, Adelaide says...
11:42pm Mon 30 Apr 07

One lunchtime, my maths professor asked me if I could do a perfect pi floater with chips. I said I thought it was irrational and no amount of chips could alter that, but for a while he had me going round in circles.

Louis, Florida, USA says...
2:24am Tue 1 May 07

Blaine wrote:
This is what supporting a liberal-nanny state gets you. It will only get worse and more invasive.
It has happened in the US too. Check a jar of peanut butter. May contain nuts.
It's what we get for electing POLITICIANS.

Dutch, Maryland, USA says...
4:11am Tue 1 May 07

"This is the sort of thing which sends 1000 people a day abroad to find sanity," David B wrote. I hope they don't come over here for their sanity, as there's just as much lunacy within our governmental bodies as within yours. We just need to keep laughing them out of their phony jobs.

ednausean, Connectcut U S A says...
8:37am Tue 1 May 07

Our Quarter pounder doesn't contain any quarters, nor do our pot stickers contain cannabis.Most of our hotdogs do nothave tails and bad breath. Our hush puppies have bark. Your bangers are the wurst.I must confess tho, we DO have sticky buns
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder

Ednausean, Connecticut USA says...
9:15am Tue 1 May 07

Most or our Chickens do not have nuggets. How could those big globes of moth deterrent be moth balls? Scooter pies devoid of wheels? Duck tape? Pu pu platter I think not

Iona, Adelaide says...
10:14am Tue 1 May 07

You Americans amuse me. In the States I went into Fat Boys to eat only to be served by a really skinny woman.

Gypsy, Weymouth says...
10:45am Tue 1 May 07

Pig Tarts well they have got a pig on top, no where did it say it was a real pig, I think it is a pretty accurate name actually...

Terry, says...
11:32am Tue 1 May 07

Email: tradingstandards@dorsetcc.gov.uk

Dman, London says...
2:18pm Tue 1 May 07

B wrote:
glyn rees wrote:
Please can you let the world know where we can contact the trading standards office in Dorset so that we can make our feelings known.How would they cope with baby's heads?
The land address is

Trading Standards
County Hall,
Colliton Park, Dorchester
DT1 1XJ

Tels. +44 (0)1305 224702
(business advice)

+44 (0)1202 224012 (consumer protection)
If you can't wait to email them, their email address is tradingstandards@dorsetcc.gov.uk
tradingstandards <at> dorsetcc <dot> gov <dot> uk

T-Bone, New Beige says...
2:35pm Tue 1 May 07

Does this mean Pigs in a Blanket will have to be made with real blankets now?

Hans Peter GRAF, Lucerne - Switzerland says...
2:36pm Tue 1 May 07

The story made it even in a Media Newsletter in Switzerland. If we adopt it to some very famous bakery products here in Switzerland, then we have to stopp the Black Forest cakes (no black forest in the cake) as well as the so called "Schnecken" (snails) which got the name due their form of a house of a snail... beware us of the red tape! Hans Peter Graf

Ian, says...
5:12pm Tue 1 May 07

I work for Trading Standards (Not in Dorset)
We would never tell people to change the names of products like that. But they would have to have a label or show some description of the ingredients.
I suspect this story has just been overblown by the woman not understanding what she was being told!!

mmm, swe says...
5:47pm Tue 1 May 07

Remind me, never to order spotted dick while in Dorset.

AL44, says...
7:46pm Tue 1 May 07

Ian wrote:
I work for Trading Standards (Not in Dorset) We would never tell people to change the names of products like that. But they would have to have a label or show some description of the ingredients. I suspect this story has just been overblown by the woman not understanding what she was being told!!
If that is the case then Trading Standards are definitely to blame. They should make sure that the business owner understands exactly what is required of them.

Pearce, Dorset says...
8:43pm Tue 1 May 07

Seems to me that it's very easy for Ian to point the finger at Val (who's been in the business for years) rather than accepting that one of his colleagues messed up.

David, says...
9:19pm Tue 1 May 07

Its simple really. The trading standards bods are just acting to justify their jobs, as they are so useless at everything else they do.

B, Dorset says...
11:19pm Tue 1 May 07

Ian wrote:
I work for Trading Standards (Not in Dorset) We would never tell people to change the names of products like that. But they would have to have a label or show some description of the ingredients. I suspect this story has just been overblown by the woman not understanding what she was being told!!
If all that was wanted was a list of ingredients, why did your colleagues pick on only a few examples? Why not scones, Dundee cake or bread pudding or the such-like that also do not display a list of ingredients?

No they simply had nothing better to do.

They need the sack without fancy pension deals to soften the blow, just like every other working person in private industry in the country who **** up on a world wide scale just for a laugh whilst otherwise idle.

T-Bone, The Colonies says...
4:04am Wed 2 May 07

Well, you folks may eat Beef Wellington but we have finger sandwiches

jackie noble, portland says...
8:01am Wed 2 May 07

the no pork in the pig cakes is not so bad it`s the no millionaire in the millionaire slices thats more disappointing !!

Righteous, Weymouth says...
10:14am Wed 2 May 07

I notice in one of the interviews in the National Press it mentions that the officer responsible was female...this should narrow down the hunt to find out who is responsible for this c**k up.

TrevoverT, Montreal says...
2:35pm Thu 3 May 07

The Dorset traders Office have made Sgt Bun Bakery the Hero Of the Planet and should be paid for the work... I suggest a tray of spotted dick and toad in the hole combination with cream on the side!

Alan, uk says...
2:59pm Thu 3 May 07

Reading the comments posted it is very apparent that with the exception of Micki from Bournemouth the rest of the contributors are totally pig ignorant ( no pun intended) of the legal framework in this country for food labelling--I would suggest they read the Food Labelling Regulations 1996, then you never know, you might actually get it right. A little bit of research would be beneficial rather than going off on one on a topic about which you clearly know nothing about.
Further to Micki`s point, it is most disappointing that in a supposedly sophisticated society, people have read an article by some hack in a local paper and believed everything printed is totally correct.
A little research will reveal the true advice given to the lady, and that is obviously not quite what was reported--a case perhaps of sexing up a complete non story to justify a reporters job and sell papers?

AL44, says...
5:33pm Thu 3 May 07

Micki wrote:
Did any of you actually bother to find out the facts of the story for frothing at the mouths. No-one asked that bakery to change the name of the product, just to put a description of what it was underneath. Look on the side of a can of 7-up, there is says 'Lemon and Lime flavoured soft drink'. Not too difficult to understand is it? If a product has an ambiguous name, it then follows that it should state what that product actually is. Maybe you should look a little closer at stories rather than simply swallowing everything you read.
Actually I think it is you who is being manipulated by the face-saving PR issued by Trading Standards after this story went global. I heard from the source prior to the papers getting the story, what Trading Standards had said. To cover the departments embarrassment, they tried to make it sound like Mrs Temple misunderstood them.

Alan from the UK: I have read the food labelling regulations and specifically the cake labelling section. There is NO legal requirement to label the ingredients and Trading Standards are completely wrong by saying that Paradise slice is a product solely from this bakery: It is a widely produced product.
"SLONG LIVE THE PIG TART!"

Tracey, says...
7:32pm Thu 3 May 07

Cheers for absurdity and blessed ignorance. I thought the U.S. was the homeland of the intellectually challenged and the commonsense-ibly deprived! I believe our seeds of stupidity have found land-ho and sewn themelves under a Weymouth sky. Where's the addy for this office? I'm coming to tour the land and, for the love of God, all I want now is a piggy tart!

ol' Nick, Dubai by the Sea says...
7:44am Fri 4 May 07

What a load of **** & bull.

I would get involved, but i'd be scared to be called the piggy in the middle!

BTW, does it have to be exactly in the middle, is that like 50% of the way, or would 49% do?

Anybody know what tolerance is allowed?

B, Dorset says...
5:03pm Fri 4 May 07

ol' Nick,

If it were a row of an odd number of piggies you would have an equal number to the left and to the right of you. If it were an even number of piggies, you would have to take sides.

Does this help?

I didn't think so!

A comment, says...
9:27pm Fri 4 May 07

The trader would have been told in writing, lets see waht was written. Oh, I forgot, there is something else not mentioned in the story that she would rather not let people know. Smokescreen , anyone?

rationalist, 025-293 says...
4:48pm Sat 5 May 07

the training for Trading Standards officers can take up to 4 years and is considered too complex for an honours degree. I am damned sure they know the law and equally damned sure they expalined it corrctly to Mrs Temple.

What is really sickening is that the arrogant anarchist bigots who have responded above have immediately jumped to the conclusion that the officers were wrong based on third hand evidence. They have then embroidered matters to the extent that they have worked themselves into such a tizzy that they ignore the important question - Why is the trader lying?

W, Dorset says...
4:59pm Sun 6 May 07

rationalist wrote:
the training for Trading Standards officers can take up to 4 years and is considered too complex for an honours degree. I am damned sure they know the law and equally damned sure they expalined it corrctly to Mrs Temple. What is really sickening is that the arrogant anarchist bigots who have responded above have immediately jumped to the conclusion that the officers were wrong based on third hand evidence. They have then embroidered matters to the extent that they have worked themselves into such a tizzy that they ignore the important question - Why is the trader lying?
I think the point is that it is fun more than arrogance.

In anycase the majority are right! If Trading Standards are right to require a fuller description of these fancies, then are being inconsistent because labelling should be for all customers, not simply those that have been in UK for generations and hence know what spotted dick and toad in the hole are.

Personally, I wander what is in pork pies - I suspect that I would rather not know!

AL44, says...
5:19pm Sun 6 May 07

rationalist.
I don't think people are in a tizzy as you put it. They are having a laugh at something that is absurd. As for your comment,
the important question - Why is the trader lying?
I would asuggest that this is very close to 'Libellous' and wonder why you made such a remark.

Iona, Adelaide says...
10:43pm Sun 6 May 07

When asked, "What goes into a Tart Aux Pommes " I replied, "Is it the English footie team?" Apparently I was wrong! You Europeans are really strange.

Stephen, Weymouth says...
8:55am Mon 14 May 07

...Aussie humour's got me baffled. I can understand pommes but why tart?? Not a reference to Becks surely?

Stephen, Weymouth says...
9:04am Mon 14 May 07

Oops! Sorry - for Oz read Kiwi..bit out on the geography. And they do dismiss soccer as a "Shiela's game"... what this has to do with pig tarts is not clear, however.

Queen Adelaide, Meiningen, Germany says...
11:08pm Mon 14 May 07

Stephen wrote:
...Aussie humour's got me baffled. I can understand pommes but why tart?? Not a reference to Becks surely?
"Becks" is German but "Tart" is English (French Tarte ends in "e" as in merde.)

I would concentrate on English tarts and what pomms they might have in them. I doubt its German beer and certainly not any kiwi fruit.

David Edwards, Bridport says...
6:40pm Thu 8 Nov 07

I fully appreciate what the TS officers were concerned about. A female police officer must feel very intimidated by this tasty confectionery product.

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