10:00am Saturday 28th April 2007
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A BAKER has been forced to rename her novelty pig tarts - because they don't contain any pork.
Val Temple, who runs Sgt Bun Bakery, Weymouth, says officers from Dorset's trading standards department also told her she must swap the name of robin tarts as they are not made from robins.
And she claims she was instructed to rename her paradise slice because ... it's not from paradise.
Mrs Temple has made the novelty cakes in the shape of pigs and robins as a treat for her customers for years.
She said: "It's a joke.
"The officers came in and said they had had a complaint and I must change the names because they didn't contain pork, robin or paradise.
"It's an insult to the public. Of course they don't contain pig, robin or paradise.
"The trading standards officers have been coming into this shop for 26 years and now the name has been picked up.
"It's absolutely ridiculous. Are they going to start banning Christmas cake because it doesn't have Jesus in it?
"You could apply it to everything. It's so silly.
"And as for the paradise slice, that recipe is 120 years old and it's always been known as Paradise Slice.
"They said they were going to come back in and check, so I've changed the names now.
"But people are still coming in and calling them by their proper names."
Mrs Temple said she had swapped the name of her animal-inspired tarts to novelty tarts with jam and fondant and the paradise slice to almond, fruit and nut slice.
Ivan Hancock, the county's trading standards manager, said: "The fact is that piece of food needs to be properly described so that the consumer can tell what it is.
"There's nothing wrong with using other names but it must be accompanied by the true name of the food.
"Consumers have the right to know what is in food."
But Mrs Temple, who runs the bakers with her husband Ian, denied she was told this.
She said: "The way they came in and said the names had to be changed didn't give me the impression you could keep the names.
"I'm sure other places haven't been told they should list all the ingredients. It's ridiculous having a long list of ingredients - of course customers are not going to think I put robin and pork in a cake."
Brioche, 101-759 says...
12:27pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Albo, Wyke Regis says...
1:21pm Sat 28 Apr 07
ian, says...
2:36pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Arnie, U.S. says...
2:45pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Albo, Wyke Regis says...
4:25pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Dee, Bridport says...
4:42pm Sat 28 Apr 07
ian, says...
4:45pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Dee wrote:Dunno but I have heard there is a cream you can get for it :-)
Crikey - what is Spotted Dick made of then?
ian, 054-035 says...
6:06pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Albo wrote:Albo, I do respect a good rant ! and as well spoken as yours is it is said with a hint of comedy, I think perhaps such matters should be treated more seriously, after all were does this kind of lunacy end?
You\'ve also got to question the mentality of the one person who complained. Were they born miserable?
Additional to Dorset Trading Standards: There is no reason why Sgt Bun can\'t sell Paradise Slices, because there is no such place you bunch of awful cake-banning, non-cowboy-builder-chasing Jobsworths.
That\'s it. I\'m so angry, I\'m writing to Esther Rantsen.
Scolopax, says...
7:15pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Tip top, says...
8:16pm Sat 28 Apr 07
k, dorset says...
8:36pm Sat 28 Apr 07
viv brown, Bradford, Ontario. Canada says...
8:48pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Righteous, says...
9:24pm Sat 28 Apr 07
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ian, says...
10:13pm Sat 28 Apr 07
william pulman, army foundation college harrogate pharmacy says...
10:25pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Scolopax, says...
10:28pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Catherine, POOLE says...
10:32am Sun 29 Apr 07
ian, says...
10:47am Sun 29 Apr 07
Scolopax wrote:Explain then moron!
Ian, get a life, when you grow up you\'ll understand what it\'s all about.
Albo, Wyke Regis says...
11:28am Sun 29 Apr 07
IAN, says...
11:40am Sun 29 Apr 07
B, Dorset says...
11:44am Sun 29 Apr 07
Richard Nunn, Texas,USA says...
1:21pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Scolopax, says...
1:27pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Ian H, weymouth says...
1:28pm Sun 29 Apr 07
ian, says...
2:31pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Steve I, Portland says...
2:33pm Sun 29 Apr 07
ian, says...
2:40pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Richard Nunn wrote:Vote them out and replace them with what mate? They are the same breed! Those who get in with best intentions usually get shoved out if they rock the boat too much.
What in the name of GOD is wrong with you people. You don\'t have to put up with this kind of trash from your government. They are not your Mother. VOTE THEM OUT!!
Keith Loyd, Dallas, Texas says...
3:19pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Peter Morton, Dubai says...
3:22pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Scott, Deltona, FL, USA says...
3:23pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Loren, Las Vegas, Nv says...
3:26pm Sun 29 Apr 07
ian, says...
3:36pm Sun 29 Apr 07
steb, chicago says...
3:48pm Sun 29 Apr 07
pingu, Weymouth says...
3:50pm Sun 29 Apr 07
ian, says...
4:15pm Sun 29 Apr 07
pingu wrote:Just see this on another forum,I think it speaks volumes about this country!!
Dorset Trading Standards clearly don't have enough work to keep themselves usefully occupied. It is clear who the first candidates must be when DCC next look for cuts.
Steve Bassett, Westham, Weymouth says...
4:37pm Sun 29 Apr 07
yoso, NOT England says...
4:48pm Sun 29 Apr 07
ian, says...
5:02pm Sun 29 Apr 07
yoso wrote:That's my favourite yet !
The trading standards department needs to change it's name as well. Why? Because it doesn't TRADE.
Mike, USA says...
5:33pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Pete, Dorchester says...
6:03pm Sun 29 Apr 07
swisstony, weymouth says...
6:26pm Sun 29 Apr 07
B, Dorset says...
6:49pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Keith Loyd wrote:Well said mate.
"If ye love wealth better than liberty and the tranquility of servitude better than the animated contest of freedom, then crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains sit lightly on you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen...go from us in peace, we ask not your counsel or your arms." -Samuel Adams, Revolutionary War, USA
bboo, bboo land says...
6:59pm Sun 29 Apr 07
chris, boston, ma, us says...
7:46pm Sun 29 Apr 07
chris, boston, ma, us says...
7:49pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Scolopax wrote:i disagree.
Ian, get a life, when you grow up you'll understand what it's all about.
AL44, Weymouth says...
8:14pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Richard Nunn wrote:I realise Richard that you are from Texas and so probably support George W. Bush. However like many of your fellow countrymen probably feel, many of us did not vote for the government we currently have. Without PR in this country, many millions of us will remain unrepresented in the political arena and as a result half wits and liars will remain in power.
What in the name of GOD is wrong with you people. You don't have to put up with this kind of trash from your government. They are not your Mother. VOTE THEM OUT!!
Its obviously easier to pick on an old lady than to catch the shed loads of pirate DVD's sellers that are on every street corner and in every pub.
D, Bournemouth says...
8:18pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Catherine, Poole says...
9:15pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Mike, says...
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Bob Howell, Pemaquid USA says...
10:05pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Bob Howell, Pemaquid USA says...
10:06pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Mike, says...
10:27pm Sun 29 Apr 07
B, Dorset says...
10:55pm Sun 29 Apr 07
ian, says...
10:55pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Mike wrote:You may do better to actually ask (or perhaps the echo should have?) why other products in supermarkets with similar names are not acted upon?
Just sent to my councillors, CC Trading Standards Dept.
Dear Councillor,
Can you please advise me of the qualifications required for the position of Trading Standards Officer, and why common sense is not one of them?
I believe the following link will explain all. <http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/display.var.1362517.0.0.php#comments>
Whilst I await your response, I shall continue to nibble my Gypsy Tart.
B, Dorset says...
10:56pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Steve Turpin, Derbyshire via Hampshire says...
11:28pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Steve I, Portland says...
12:08am Mon 30 Apr 07
Alan Clifford, Guildford says...
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Kathryn, Beverly Hills, CA, USA says...
4:04am Mon 30 Apr 07
curt, az. U.S.A. says...
7:10am Mon 30 Apr 07
Lani, Qld, Australia says...
7:55am Mon 30 Apr 07
Corncerned Dorset Resident, Dorset says...
9:01am Mon 30 Apr 07
Steve Turpin wrote:Our famous Dorset Nobs don't contain an Trading Standards officers. Ban them quick!
We pay the wages of these people. We should be picketing the town halls demanding these idiots are sacked as they have no common sense. We are sleepwalking into a Kafkaesque nightmare and it has to be stopped.
Grumpy, weymouth says...
12:28pm Mon 30 Apr 07
glyn rees, oxford says...
1:03pm Mon 30 Apr 07
Unnamed, ****, Michigan says...
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Jay Morgan, Atlanta, GA says...
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AL44, says...
2:10pm Mon 30 Apr 07
Posted by: glyn rees, oxford on Today
Please can you let the world know where we can contact the trading standards office in Dorset so that we can make our feelings known.How would they cope with baby's heads?
Please can you let the world know where we can contact the trading standards office in Dorset so that we can make our feelings known.How would they cope with baby's heads?
John, Ohio USA says...
2:19pm Mon 30 Apr 07
Bill Blunt, Lancashire says...
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Paul, London says...
2:50pm Mon 30 Apr 07
B, Dorset says...
3:36pm Mon 30 Apr 07
Paul wrote:Mostly they are neither civil nor do they act as servants. They should be renamed.
On a more serious note, had this been my bakery business I would have told these 'officers' to get lost and, if necessary, have called the police to have them removed from my shop. I would have absolutely refused to rename these novelty cakes and challenged the local council to take me to court if necessary. I cannot find one shred of litigation to back up these demands - foodstuffs all over the world are often given ridiculous names. Civil servants are precisely that and must be constantly reminded of this. NEVER give up when you know your're in the right! Paul.
sean, usa says...
3:40pm Mon 30 Apr 07
B, Dorset says...
3:46pm Mon 30 Apr 07
glyn rees wrote:The land address is
Please can you let the world know where we can contact the trading standards office in Dorset so that we can make our feelings known.How would they cope with baby's heads?
Vote For Smaller Govt, says...
3:51pm Mon 30 Apr 07
MaryH, Devon says...
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Tim Pascoe, Southampton says...
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John, DC, USA says...
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John, DC, USA says...
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ian, says...
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Andrew Loudon, Bridport, Dorset, UK says...
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Chris Neal, says...
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Righteous, Weymouth says...
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David Brown, Southern France says...
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Valerie, Florida, USA says...
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bill reith, United States says...
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andy, portland says...
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Pat, Washington State USA says...
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john, suffolk says...
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Ian, Haslemere says...
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Mike P, says...
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B, Dorset says...
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Old Boy, Broadwey says...
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Iona, Adelaide says...
11:42pm Mon 30 Apr 07
Louis, Florida, USA says...
2:24am Tue 1 May 07
Blaine wrote:It has happened in the US too. Check a jar of peanut butter. May contain nuts.
This is what supporting a liberal-nanny state gets you. It will only get worse and more invasive.
Dutch, Maryland, USA says...
4:11am Tue 1 May 07
ednausean, Connectcut U S A says...
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Ednausean, Connecticut USA says...
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Iona, Adelaide says...
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Gypsy, Weymouth says...
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Terry, says...
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Dman, London says...
2:18pm Tue 1 May 07
B wrote:If you can't wait to email them, their email address is tradingstandards@dorsetcc.gov.uk
glyn rees wrote:The land address is
Please can you let the world know where we can contact the trading standards office in Dorset so that we can make our feelings known.How would they cope with baby's heads?
Trading Standards
County Hall,
Colliton Park, Dorchester
DT1 1XJ
Tels. +44 (0)1305 224702
(business advice)
+44 (0)1202 224012 (consumer protection)
T-Bone, New Beige says...
2:35pm Tue 1 May 07
Hans Peter GRAF, Lucerne - Switzerland says...
2:36pm Tue 1 May 07
Ian, says...
5:12pm Tue 1 May 07
mmm, swe says...
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AL44, says...
7:46pm Tue 1 May 07
Ian wrote:If that is the case then Trading Standards are definitely to blame. They should make sure that the business owner understands exactly what is required of them.
I work for Trading Standards (Not in Dorset) We would never tell people to change the names of products like that. But they would have to have a label or show some description of the ingredients. I suspect this story has just been overblown by the woman not understanding what she was being told!!
Pearce, Dorset says...
8:43pm Tue 1 May 07
David, says...
9:19pm Tue 1 May 07
B, Dorset says...
11:19pm Tue 1 May 07
Ian wrote:If all that was wanted was a list of ingredients, why did your colleagues pick on only a few examples? Why not scones, Dundee cake or bread pudding or the such-like that also do not display a list of ingredients?
I work for Trading Standards (Not in Dorset) We would never tell people to change the names of products like that. But they would have to have a label or show some description of the ingredients. I suspect this story has just been overblown by the woman not understanding what she was being told!!
T-Bone, The Colonies says...
4:04am Wed 2 May 07
jackie noble, portland says...
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Righteous, Weymouth says...
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TrevoverT, Montreal says...
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Alan, uk says...
2:59pm Thu 3 May 07
AL44, says...
5:33pm Thu 3 May 07
Micki wrote:Actually I think it is you who is being manipulated by the face-saving PR issued by Trading Standards after this story went global. I heard from the source prior to the papers getting the story, what Trading Standards had said. To cover the departments embarrassment, they tried to make it sound like Mrs Temple misunderstood them.
Did any of you actually bother to find out the facts of the story for frothing at the mouths. No-one asked that bakery to change the name of the product, just to put a description of what it was underneath. Look on the side of a can of 7-up, there is says 'Lemon and Lime flavoured soft drink'. Not too difficult to understand is it? If a product has an ambiguous name, it then follows that it should state what that product actually is. Maybe you should look a little closer at stories rather than simply swallowing everything you read.
Tracey, says...
7:32pm Thu 3 May 07
ol' Nick, Dubai by the Sea says...
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B, Dorset says...
5:03pm Fri 4 May 07
A comment, says...
9:27pm Fri 4 May 07
rationalist, 025-293 says...
4:48pm Sat 5 May 07
W, Dorset says...
4:59pm Sun 6 May 07
rationalist wrote:I think the point is that it is fun more than arrogance.
the training for Trading Standards officers can take up to 4 years and is considered too complex for an honours degree. I am damned sure they know the law and equally damned sure they expalined it corrctly to Mrs Temple. What is really sickening is that the arrogant anarchist bigots who have responded above have immediately jumped to the conclusion that the officers were wrong based on third hand evidence. They have then embroidered matters to the extent that they have worked themselves into such a tizzy that they ignore the important question - Why is the trader lying?
AL44, says...
5:19pm Sun 6 May 07
the important question - Why is the trader lying?I would asuggest that this is very close to 'Libellous' and wonder why you made such a remark.
Iona, Adelaide says...
10:43pm Sun 6 May 07
Stephen, Weymouth says...
8:55am Mon 14 May 07
Stephen, Weymouth says...
9:04am Mon 14 May 07
Queen Adelaide, Meiningen, Germany says...
11:08pm Mon 14 May 07
Stephen wrote:"Becks" is German but "Tart" is English (French Tarte ends in "e" as in merde.)
...Aussie humour's got me baffled. I can understand pommes but why tart?? Not a reference to Becks surely?
David Edwards, Bridport says...
6:40pm Thu 8 Nov 07
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Scolopax, says...
12:24pm Sat 28 Apr 07