Oh my God the Grim Reaper has returned - this is the man who almost single-handedly caused the delay of the proposed shopping centre in Weymouth in the 1980's and the subsequent 12 year bombsite. Be afraid, be very afraid!

Why do we need another 290 berth Marina? Spaces are available within the two Weymouth Harbour Marinas and no doubt plenty will be available in the new marina at Portland (Osprey Quay & potentially the Qinetic site should they get their permission).

Mr Poole, who correctly predicted the movement of shingle at Overcombe

He was right before, why shouldn't he right this time? It is illegal to dump rubbish (even apple cores as in a recent court case) on the streets, fields and in the hedgerows, why does Simon Williams think boat-owners will be different? No one can be watched 24/7 even CCTV operators are human and can miss things happening.

Grim reaper or not maybe this guy should just be listened to and his comments investigated.

Old Synic wrote:
Grim reaper or not maybe this guy should just be listened to and his comments investigated.

Oh come on. How many people on the beach in the summer? 20,000+ easily. I think there is a bit more cr@p left behind by them than a few boats 1/2 mile offshore. Have you seen what the beach looks like at the end of a summer's day? Disgusting!

id much rather listen to local experts like Mr Poole than all the remote consultants who get paid to look at computer models and make guesses. Mr Pool is a local man who knows the situation.

The Fish wrote:
Why do we need another 290 berth Marina? Spaces are available within the two Weymouth Harbour Marinas and no doubt plenty will be available in the new marina at Portland (Osprey Quay & potentially the Qinetic site should they get their permission).

I think you will find there is a waiting list for both and there will not be a marina at Bincleaves - which by the way has been passed. Osprey Quay has been underway for three months. Setting a precedent maybe?

This report doesnt specify whether the pollution will be caused by the large amount of yachts. Let me put your mind at rest, yacht owners and crew are very respectful of their environments and have a large amount of legislation to comply with, and large fines for non-compliance. It is highly unlikely that the yachts themselves will be the cause of the pollution, especially when proper shore side reception facilities are made available for recycling, sewage treatment, and waste oils. I would suggest that any extra flotsam or jetsam would be created by the rude tourists (and many locals) who come to our town, and make no effort to keep it clean. Obviously with the new marina being a major attraction this would likely be a path well trodden with rubbish. Incidentally, have you been to any of the large marinas in europe or America, the y stand testament to my points made here.

I dont want to see yet another marina let alone a load of flats Weymouth is going down the pan fast enough without speeding things up.

A huge marina will be another blot on the landscape to add to the monstrous flat development, if it is approved. All we need is a refurbished theatre and a tidy up of the car parking area. Condor can develop their own facilities.

One thing has always puzzled me about Weymouth marina. If you look at the standard and quality of some of the Yachts in the marina then there is clearly pleanty of money in the area. Why then is Weymouth so crummy? Where are the people who own these yachts and boats spending their money because it clearly isn't in Weymouth.

nige, dorchester They probably stock up with provisions before they leave home, transfer them to their boat and then restock where-ever they sail to. About the only things they are likely to buy in Weymouth are a few perishable food items that would not have survived the car journey.

yacht owners and crew are very respectful of their environments and have a large amount of legislation to comply with, and large fines for non-compliance

Substitute the words 'the general public' or 'the motoring public' for the words 'yacht owners and crew' in the comment made above by aacbuk, portland and you will see why there are fears that rubbish of various sorts may be inappropriately abandoned. The same applies to all groups as far as legislation and compliance is concerned.

Mike wrote:
I dont want to see yet another marina let alone a load of flats Weymouth is going down the pan fast enough without speeding things up.

I don't see the logic in this statement? Since when has a marina being built brought ruin to a town/city? I always thought it was quite the opposite?

John Holmes wrote:

Mike wrote: I dont want to see yet another marina let alone a load of flats Weymouth is going down the pan fast enough without speeding things up.

I don't see the logic in this statement? Since when has a marina being built brought ruin to a town/city? I always thought it was quite the opposite?

We have enough marinas we need to improve other things like a water park to encourage visitors to come,& the last thing we need is a load of flats that nobody round here can afford,the last thing we should be doing is anything that might put our small beach at risk as it is our only asset.

anneofportland wrote:
id much rather listen to local experts like Mr Poole than all the remote consultants who get paid to look at computer models and make guesses. Mr Pool is a local man who knows the situation.

Really? 'A local expert' - in what?

This is the man whose actions brought Weymouth town centre to its knees in the late 1980's and most of the 1990's? All over a stupid piece of ironwork that has now ended up in Poundbury!

Anyway - what about the thousands who use the beach every day as a waste bin and a toilet?

Mike wrote:

John Holmes wrote:

Mike wrote: I dont want to see yet another marina let alone a load of flats Weymouth is going down the pan fast enough without speeding things up.

I don't see the logic in this statement? Since when has a marina being built brought ruin to a town/city? I always thought it was quite the opposite?

We have enough marinas we need to improve other things like a water park to encourage visitors to come,& the last thing we need is a load of flats that nobody round here can afford,the last thing we should be doing is anything that might put our small beach at risk as it is our only asset.

A waterpark - yes, but surely not on this site? Lodmoor maybe? I was also under the impression that affordable housing was included in the plan? I think you will find that there are people in Weymouth who could afford a flat - I personally know of one.

John Holmes wrote:

Mike wrote:

John Holmes wrote:

Mike wrote: I dont want to see yet another marina let alone a load of flats Weymouth is going down the pan fast enough without speeding things up.

I don't see the logic in this statement? Since when has a marina being built brought ruin to a town/city? I always thought it was quite the opposite?

We have enough marinas we need to improve other things like a water park to encourage visitors to come,& the last thing we need is a load of flats that nobody round here can afford,the last thing we should be doing is anything that might put our small beach at risk as it is our only asset.

A waterpark - yes, but surely not on this site? Lodmoor maybe? I was also under the impression that affordable housing was included in the plan? I think you will find that there are people in Weymouth who could afford a flat - I personally know of one.

If you think you will be able to afford one of those flats then their is loads of property in your budget why do you think they want the marina (for the residents that area is far to good for flats & as for the marina why spoil the beach for the sake of weekend sailors.LEAVE OUR BEACH ALONE

Lovely how "some people" ar eso narrow minded in their thoughts that sailing is for rich people, For crying out loud, grow up, get out and get your facts right.

The sailing community generally loves the sea and the environment that's one of the reasons we go to sea.

Just look at our approach on this website

http://www.thegreenb
lue.org.uk/

If you want to see where garbage comes from, walk down any of the streets in town or even the beach and observe the careless "cannot be bothered" so called "cool" people just throwing "stuff" on the streets.

You could also look over the harbourside near the Fire Station where floating garbage collects. Hardly any of this garbage is from boats. It's from the lazy "townies" !
New parents, now is your chance to correct thr wrong teaching of yester years lazy parents - teach your kids to look after the environment - it's where "we" live!

and another thing....

Why is the seaweed not collected up, rotted down and spread over as God's gift of free fertilizer?

Any "wise" people know the answer???

and another thing....

Why is the seaweed not collected up, rotted down and spread over as God's gift of free fertilizer?

Any "wise" people know the answer???

Mike wrote:

John Holmes wrote:

Mike wrote:

John Holmes wrote:

Mike wrote: I dont want to see yet another marina let alone a load of flats Weymouth is going down the pan fast enough without speeding things up.

I don't see the logic in this statement? Since when has a marina being built brought ruin to a town/city? I always thought it was quite the opposite?

We have enough marinas we need to improve other things like a water park to encourage visitors to come,& the last thing we need is a load of flats that nobody round here can afford,the last thing we should be doing is anything that might put our small beach at risk as it is our only asset.

A waterpark - yes, but surely not on this site? Lodmoor maybe? I was also under the impression that affordable housing was included in the plan? I think you will find that there are people in Weymouth who could afford a flat - I personally know of one.

If you think you will be able to afford one of those flats then their is loads of property in your budget why do you think they want the marina (for the residents that area is far to good for flats & as for the marina why spoil the beach for the sake of weekend sailors.LEAVE OUR BEACH ALONE

why don't you shut up!