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South Dorset MP Jim Knight put tax advice on his expenses


SOUTH Dorset MP Jim Knight has insisted he sought tax advice from the husband of a Labour Party colleague in a bid to save the taxpayer money.

The schools minister was yesterday embroiled in the MPs’ expenses row following revelations about payments for tax advice.

Mr Knight, along with five other Labour MPs, reportedly paid Dennis Bates – husband of former foreign office minister Meg Munn – £345 for tax advice and claimed it on their office expenses, the Telegraph revealed.

But Mr Knight said he had used Mr Bates as his tax adviser on office matters since 2005 Mr Knight said: “In 2005 I changed accountants, having been paying £760-a-year.

“I decided to shop around to get a better deal and the following year Dennis charged me £345.

“If you had shopped around Weymouth I’m not sure you could have got a better deal than that.

“I was struck by the considerable saving I could make with Dennis.”

Each of the six Labour MPs were charged £345 in 2006-7 ‘for professional services in connection with your personal taxation affairs’.

But Mr Knight stressed he never used Mr Bates for personal taxation queries.

He added: “I have never asked Dennis for advice on minimising the amount of tax I pay.

“All he has ever done is make sure I pay the full amount of tax so I am beyond suspicion.

“It is categorically not the case that I employ someone at the taxpayer’s expense to help me avoid paying tax.”

Controversy also surrounded the fact that while businesses are specifically barred from claiming tax relief on accountancy costs, MPs are able to push them through the expenses system, thus avoiding paying tax on them.

Mr Knight conceded what he had done was ‘standard practice’ but that it was another glitch in the increasingly contentious system.

He said: “The test should always be to ensure we are not treated any differently.

“It is about consistency. People have said to me it is a case of what is reasonable and there is no question I have done anything underhand.

“But the public is very impatient to get these rules changed and I share their impatience.”

Also caught up in the tax expose yesterday were Foreign Secretary David Miliband, Foreign Office minister Gillian Merron, Local Government minister John Healey and Angela Smith, a former local government minister, and Meg Munn, Mr Bates’s wife.

It came just 24 hours after it was revealed cabinet ministers, including Chancellor Alistair Darling, had claimed more than £10,000 for accountancy advice.

Four of the MPs, including Mr Knight, issued a statement yesterday stating Mr Bates had worked for the Inland Revenue for 12 years and was ‘eminently qualified’ to provide advice.

Comments(20)

SnakeskinCowboy says...
9:31am Wed 27 May 09

The common sense expense law applies. "If it were your own money, would you spend it". I suspect here the answer would have been "no"...

shy talk says...
10:00am Wed 27 May 09

“It is about consistency. People have said to me it is a case of what is reasonable and there is no question I have done anything underhand.

No Jim Knight you have not done anything underhanded. The fact is that all you MP’s made the regulations amongst yourselves and voted them in. Without any outside independent regulating body to control the spending of taxpayer’s money and set the rules, not guide lines. Yet again MP’s are hiding behind their own rules. Very soon Mr Knight you will outside in the real world looking for a new job.

SnakeskinCowboy says...
10:03am Wed 27 May 09

I hear McDonalds is hiring. Frankly I wouldn't trust Mr Knight to flip burgers thou to be honest...

SnakeskinCowboy says...
11:20am Wed 27 May 09

SO I have a question for Mr Knight...

If like he says, he was not taking Tax advice to "minimising the amount of tax I pay" but to "make sure I pay the full amount of tax", then it sounds like it's just regular tax advice. The question then is, if a MP can't work out the tax rules for himself, without paying for advice, how is a man on the street supposed to work it out?

Party gal says...
11:28am Wed 27 May 09

It sure amazes me how you always find time to respond to the media but yet fail to respond to your constituents!
Instead of your snubbing Accountants in Weymouth by saying they are charging too much in which to give advice or audit your accounts, you should be supporting local businesses, keeping them afloat rather than trying to sink them!

It would also be interesting to know as to how much you gained from providing presentations at conferences in your role as Schools minister?

You could always try charity work Mr Knight but then again I would not like the thought of you being a trustee for such as I would not trust you as far as I could throw you?

I Don't Like The New Echo Website says...
12:36pm Wed 27 May 09

I don't like Jim Knight, but in all fairness, he is no better or worse than the other MP's.

They thought they could get away with it, but have been found out. It has been going on for years.

The MEP's are REALLY annoying- they don't need any proof of their expenses claims, they just ask and get given what they want.

However, to everyone who has made an inflated (or bogus?) insurance claim, everyone who has told white lies when filling out tax credit forms, everyone who has slipped over on a grape (when you weren't looking where you were going) and made a claim for thousands:

By making bogus or inflated insurance claims, or claiming for a "bad back", you are increasing premiums for everyone else. So, you are costing tax payers money- a lot like the MP's.

I don't like it, but it is unfortunately part of human nature. It's called GREED.

danthere says...
12:39pm Wed 27 May 09

I believe NOT ONE word this man says !

Albo says...
12:39pm Wed 27 May 09

I can point Jim Knight towards a very good, reasonably priced, Weymouth-based accountant who would be happy for the work.


renegade says...
1:05pm Wed 27 May 09

Jim Knight ensures he is paying the right amount of tax and gets grief from people commenting on the Echo website. Oliver Letwin, the Tory in West Dorset, pays for a leaking pipe under his tennis court and barely a murmur from the Echo or from those commenting on here. What a strange world we are living in.

SnakeskinCowboy says...
1:10pm Wed 27 May 09

renegade, I agree, in my eyes MP's on both parties are all as bad as each other.

I wouldn't vote for any of them (and don't) and would rather spoil my ballot paper.

All spineless idiots in my eyes.

danthere says...
6:20pm Wed 27 May 09

There is the usual British fairness in the above comments - so it is worth pointing out that by law your tax affairs are PERSONAL - nothing to do with the expense of running an MP's office. (YOU are taken to court ny the IR - not your "accountant". This man stinks just as much as the Tory MP couples claiming two extra homes on the taxpayer - so I would suggest there is very little party- political bias in the mostly honest comments above.
Letwin's pipe repair was to the house - the pipe ran under the tennis court - maybe, just maybe, a qualifying expense. I tried to comment on that but the ECHO did not provide the usual 'comment' space.
So - now what Gov't dep't can I apply to for maintaining my one and only house - forget your second homes !

Old Bill says...
6:39pm Wed 27 May 09

Neither the accountancy bill nor the pipe repair bill had anything to do with being an MP. Both claims are morally wrong and Jim Knight should pay the money back!

Blueboy says...
8:55pm Wed 27 May 09

Of course we all believe you Mr K! What a joke.

franchise says...
8:58pm Wed 27 May 09

Haven't seen anyone in town collecting signatures yet!

renegade says...
10:20pm Wed 27 May 09

More Tory trolls, I see. Still, if Richard Plunkett Ernle Erle Drax becomes our MP, he would only be the seventh Ernle/Erle/Drax to have been an MP in Dorset according to Wikipedia. Not bad going. I thought the Conservatives were supposed to be a 'modern' party these days. Who says hereditary peers are gone!

dun hoping says...
12:16am Thu 28 May 09

Ps I notice you have one of the highest expenses in this part of the country much higher than surrounding MPs , Explain that Mr Knight ?

SnakeskinCowboy says...
10:59am Thu 28 May 09

Anyone else notice that Jim Knights expenses also had like 3k worth of food?

Surely he would have to buy food wherever he was, whatever he was doing, it's a living expenditure, not a specific one for being an MP... I don't get it...

JamesYoung says...
1:06pm Thu 28 May 09

In response to dun hoping, it's worthwhile remembering that many Tory MPs have additional incomes. Oliver Letwin holds, i believe, a number of directorships.

johnvox says...
2:21pm Thu 28 May 09

Can anyone give me MrKnights dietary plan...3k of food !!!
Astounding...

Ted Hendrie says...
4:13pm Thu 28 May 09

Why, Why, should the tax payers pay for your tax advice, please do not say it's within the rules.
Your lot set them.
Also how many years has this been going on, together with all the other benefits.Will you get your funeral expenses as well??


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