Election 2010: Sweeping victory for Tory Richard Drax

Dorset Echo: Smiling Conservative victor Richard Drax Smiling Conservative victor Richard Drax

TORY Richard Drax comprehensively defeated Labour’s Jim Knight in South Dorset.

Jubilant Mr Drax won the constituency seat by a huge margin of 7,443 votes when results were announced at 5.35am after a tense count at Weymouth Pavilion.

The victorious Tory polled 22,667 votes compared to 15,224 for the deflated and defeated Labour candidate. It was a massive swing from the 2005 election when Mr Knight received 20,231 votes against 18,419 for the Conservatives. The Lib-Dems trailed in third with 9,557.

Mr Drax pledged to perform as Member of Parliament for the area ‘with a straight bat’ and said: “I want to do this my way.”

He added: “The campaign has gone very well – I’ve had the most fantastic time.

“We played the campaign with a straight bat, with facts and the politics and not the personalities.

“I really think, having picked up on the door, that people are tired of the spin, personality contests and lies.

“The electorate are fed up with it, with the political situation we are now in.

“As MP I will continue to play with a straight bat and be honest because it’s going to be an incredibly tough next year.”

Mr Knight arrived at the Pavilion’s Ocean Room at 3am and kept a brave face throughout the count.

But following his defeat he said he was not sure what the future held.

He said: “I will be taking my son back to university on Saturday, going to watch Arsenal on Sunday and clearing out my desk in the Commons on Monday. I will have to sort out my staff and then I will see what crops up.”

“The campaign down here couldn’t have gone any better – I had a really good team.

“A huge number of people were helping out from all over the place, even flying in from overseas. It’s been magnificent.”

Liberal Democrat candidate Ros Kayes spoke in support of the former MP.

She said: “It’s not Jim the voters don’t like, it’s Gordon Brown.

“He’s had an impossible struggle given the unpopularity of the Prime Minister.

“I’ve been working really hard in the community and there’s been a lot of support for the Lib-Dems.

“We’ve had a 30 per cent increase in our membership during the last three weeks and there’ve been a lot of Lib-Dems who have been dying to come out of the closet.”

There was a 68.2 per cent turnout for the whole of the South Dorset constituency, which included a postal vote of 16 per cent.

Green Party candidate Brian Heatley said that he had hoped for a good turn-out but was more focused on the local council elections, which will be counted today.

He said: “I am standing for Wey Valley. It’s more important and interesting for me than the general election.”

UKIP candidate Mike Hobson pledged to ‘keep fighting’ for the younger generation.

He said: “I’ve been a businessman for 50 years and I’ve never given up.”

Movement for Active Democracy (MAD) candidate Andy Kirwood said: “We had a serious message – that everybody can join in a referendum.”

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10:45am Fri 7 May 10

Baxters says...

I hope you all realize that all the tories have done and will always do, is steal from the poor to give to the rich.
I hope you all realize that all the tories have done and will always do, is steal from the poor to give to the rich. Baxters

10:47am Fri 7 May 10

bungy says...

Unlucky Jim you worked hard for us and i for one will miss you, Richard you have a hard act to follow please dont forget you represent all of south dorset
Unlucky Jim you worked hard for us and i for one will miss you, Richard you have a hard act to follow please dont forget you represent all of south dorset bungy

11:02am Fri 7 May 10

Kim Jong-Il says...

No point complaining about the result. Drax has a lot of work to do if he's to be as good as Knight was - he'd better not retreat behind his brick wall for the next five years.
No point complaining about the result. Drax has a lot of work to do if he's to be as good as Knight was - he'd better not retreat behind his brick wall for the next five years. Kim Jong-Il

11:21am Fri 7 May 10

theusualsuspect says...

Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic
Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic theusualsuspect

11:24am Fri 7 May 10

handel says...

define hung parliament, does it mean
a well-endowed
b as in rancid meat
c that all politicians should be hung
define hung parliament, does it mean a well-endowed b as in rancid meat c that all politicians should be hung handel

11:37am Fri 7 May 10

Wey-Dave says...

Now lets be realistic about this, Jim was a good MP and did plenty for Dorset, However people voted against the current government not the individual MP’s and it’s a shame that some good MP’s lost there seats. Especially as it could have been a waste of a vote if Mr Brown ends up as MP again.
Now lets be realistic about this, Jim was a good MP and did plenty for Dorset, However people voted against the current government not the individual MP’s and it’s a shame that some good MP’s lost there seats. Especially as it could have been a waste of a vote if Mr Brown ends up as MP again. Wey-Dave

11:39am Fri 7 May 10

Dorset Boy says...

handel wrote:
define hung parliament, does it mean a well-endowed b as in rancid meat c that all politicians should be hung
I'll supply the rope
[quote][p][bold]handel[/bold] wrote: define hung parliament, does it mean a well-endowed b as in rancid meat c that all politicians should be hung[/p][/quote]I'll supply the rope Dorset Boy

11:48am Fri 7 May 10

pigfarmer says...

Bye bye Jim. Serves you right for sending mailshots without stamps on.

Now phone the 'one-eyed Scottish idiot' and tell him to go as well.
Bye bye Jim. Serves you right for sending mailshots without stamps on. Now phone the 'one-eyed Scottish idiot' and tell him to go as well. pigfarmer

11:56am Fri 7 May 10

CHEVAL says...

Gordon Brown is certainly not an idiot, and its not his fault that he is disabled. Not a nice comment from you pigfarmer, just stay with your pigs.
Gordon Brown is certainly not an idiot, and its not his fault that he is disabled. Not a nice comment from you pigfarmer, just stay with your pigs. CHEVAL

12:01pm Fri 7 May 10

Tru belle says...

theusualsuspect wrote:
Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic
As I am from Wool also, I absolutely agree with you. We have lost a fine energetic MP, Jim Knight was all things to all of us. We will miss him so.

I wonder if any one has told the fox that the Tories want to return to barbaric countryside habits?
[quote][p][bold]theusualsuspect[/bold] wrote: Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic[/p][/quote]As I am from Wool also, I absolutely agree with you. We have lost a fine energetic MP, Jim Knight was all things to all of us. We will miss him so. I wonder if any one has told the fox that the Tories want to return to barbaric countryside habits? Tru belle

12:02pm Fri 7 May 10

Tru belle says...

theusualsuspect wrote:
Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic
As I am from Wool also, I absolutely agree with you. We have lost a fine energetic MP, Jim Knight was all things to all of us. We will miss him so.

I wonder if any one has told the fox that the Tories want to return to barbaric countryside habits?
[quote][p][bold]theusualsuspect[/bold] wrote: Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic[/p][/quote]As I am from Wool also, I absolutely agree with you. We have lost a fine energetic MP, Jim Knight was all things to all of us. We will miss him so. I wonder if any one has told the fox that the Tories want to return to barbaric countryside habits? Tru belle

12:05pm Fri 7 May 10

pigfarmer says...

@CHEVAL

High taxes, unlimited immigration, benefits culture, huge national debt, rampant public spending, doubled council tax, dubious foreign wars with badly equiped troops, denied us a referrendum on european treaty..............
..ad infinitum

He did us a mischief as chancellor, and finished it as PM.

I stand by my statement.
@CHEVAL High taxes, unlimited immigration, benefits culture, huge national debt, rampant public spending, doubled council tax, dubious foreign wars with badly equiped troops, denied us a referrendum on european treaty.............. ..ad infinitum He did us a mischief as chancellor, and finished it as PM. I stand by my statement. pigfarmer

12:10pm Fri 7 May 10

Dispirited says...

So magnanimous in defeat.
So magnanimous in defeat. Dispirited

12:20pm Fri 7 May 10

heinrich says...

I think that "baxters"comment on Tories.steal from the poor is
a bit rich considering that G.B.
removed 5 billion pounsds a year causing devastation to the
pensions industry,which was recognized as the best in Europe and the uk pension is among the lowest.People on retirement are now struggling.
Age Concern and the National
Pensioners Convention both state.that some thirty thousand
pensioners a year die from
hypothermia and cold related
illnesses.
I think that "baxters"comment on Tories.steal from the poor is a bit rich considering that G.B. removed 5 billion pounsds a year causing devastation to the pensions industry,which was recognized as the best in Europe and the uk pension is among the lowest.People on retirement are now struggling. Age Concern and the National Pensioners Convention both state.that some thirty thousand pensioners a year die from hypothermia and cold related illnesses. heinrich

12:21pm Fri 7 May 10

I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY DON'T LIKE THE NEW ECHO WEBSITE says...

If Brown manages to cling to power, we need to stage a revolution.
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"there’ve been a lot of Lib-Dems who have been dying to come out of the closet"- well, I couldn't possibly comment on this accusation, but I hear that the News Of The World will have some exclusive footage of this.
If Brown manages to cling to power, we need to stage a revolution. . "there’ve been a lot of Lib-Dems who have been dying to come out of the closet"- well, I couldn't possibly comment on this accusation, but I hear that the News Of The World will have some exclusive footage of this. I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY DON'T LIKE THE NEW ECHO WEBSITE

12:21pm Fri 7 May 10

Bladen says...

Shame for Jim and the constituency. He was a good MP who paid attention to his constituents.

Maybe his unelected party leader, or Jim's error in his expenses let him down.

Forget the party politics... I hope Mr Drax is as good for the region as Jim was. As it says above. Hard act to follow.
Shame for Jim and the constituency. He was a good MP who paid attention to his constituents. Maybe his unelected party leader, or Jim's error in his expenses let him down. Forget the party politics... I hope Mr Drax is as good for the region as Jim was. As it says above. Hard act to follow. Bladen

12:24pm Fri 7 May 10

pigfarmer says...

Oh yes, I forgot the pensions grab.

Tally Ho!
Oh yes, I forgot the pensions grab. Tally Ho! pigfarmer

12:27pm Fri 7 May 10

Tru belle says...

pigfarmer wrote:
Oh yes, I forgot the pensions grab. Tally Ho!
Mmm, same old nasty party trougher!
[quote][p][bold]pigfarmer[/bold] wrote: Oh yes, I forgot the pensions grab. Tally Ho![/p][/quote]Mmm, same old nasty party trougher! Tru belle

12:55pm Fri 7 May 10

fortuneswell says...

Whoever forms a government it will be a weak one and very probably not a long lasting one and I don’t envy either of the party leaders as they will have to make big concessions to their policies, I just hope that to a large extent they hang onto their policies and not sell themselves down the river the saddest thing for me is that the minority parties in Scotland Ireland and Wales will have a lot of bargaining power that is going to cost us English dearly. It is a great shame for Jim Knight but I think he can rest easy in the knowledge that he has done a good job for South Dorset and can live to fight another day with his head held high and if Richard Drax can say the same when his time comes he will have done us proud.
Whoever forms a government it will be a weak one and very probably not a long lasting one and I don’t envy either of the party leaders as they will have to make big concessions to their policies, I just hope that to a large extent they hang onto their policies and not sell themselves down the river the saddest thing for me is that the minority parties in Scotland Ireland and Wales will have a lot of bargaining power that is going to cost us English dearly. It is a great shame for Jim Knight but I think he can rest easy in the knowledge that he has done a good job for South Dorset and can live to fight another day with his head held high and if Richard Drax can say the same when his time comes he will have done us proud. fortuneswell

1:12pm Fri 7 May 10

Tru belle says...

fortuneswell wrote:
Whoever forms a government it will be a weak one and very probably not a long lasting one and I don’t envy either of the party leaders as they will have to make big concessions to their policies, I just hope that to a large extent they hang onto their policies and not sell themselves down the river the saddest thing for me is that the minority parties in Scotland Ireland and Wales will have a lot of bargaining power that is going to cost us English dearly. It is a great shame for Jim Knight but I think he can rest easy in the knowledge that he has done a good job for South Dorset and can live to fight another day with his head held high and if Richard Drax can say the same when his time comes he will have done us proud.
That is a very kind sentiment that I am certain we all echo.

Life is cruel isn't it.
[quote][p][bold]fortuneswell[/bold] wrote: Whoever forms a government it will be a weak one and very probably not a long lasting one and I don’t envy either of the party leaders as they will have to make big concessions to their policies, I just hope that to a large extent they hang onto their policies and not sell themselves down the river the saddest thing for me is that the minority parties in Scotland Ireland and Wales will have a lot of bargaining power that is going to cost us English dearly. It is a great shame for Jim Knight but I think he can rest easy in the knowledge that he has done a good job for South Dorset and can live to fight another day with his head held high and if Richard Drax can say the same when his time comes he will have done us proud.[/p][/quote]That is a very kind sentiment that I am certain we all echo. Life is cruel isn't it. Tru belle

1:22pm Fri 7 May 10

PoetPeter says...

Congratulations to Richard Drax for trouncing Jim Knight. This was exactly the result the whole country needed.

Nationally it's a terrible result, exactly what we didn’t need. It is a disaster. Overwhelmingly I am dismayed that so many Britons have voted for the tired, dishonest, discredited Labour party. I’m really not sure that I want to live in a country where there are eight million people who can behave like this.

Congratulations also to Caroline Lucas for winning the first ever Green seat.

Two of the blackest, bleakest events: Ed Balls retaining his seat, Harriet Harman back on the TV spouting her usual nonsense.

I feel sorry for the Lib Dems. It is a gross injustice and we are all diminished by their failure to gain more influence.

A terrible result.

http://peterreynolds
.wordpress.com/2010/
05/07/a-terrible-res
ult/
Congratulations to Richard Drax for trouncing Jim Knight. This was exactly the result the whole country needed. Nationally it's a terrible result, exactly what we didn’t need. It is a disaster. Overwhelmingly I am dismayed that so many Britons have voted for the tired, dishonest, discredited Labour party. I’m really not sure that I want to live in a country where there are eight million people who can behave like this. Congratulations also to Caroline Lucas for winning the first ever Green seat. Two of the blackest, bleakest events: Ed Balls retaining his seat, Harriet Harman back on the TV spouting her usual nonsense. I feel sorry for the Lib Dems. It is a gross injustice and we are all diminished by their failure to gain more influence. A terrible result. http://peterreynolds .wordpress.com/2010/ 05/07/a-terrible-res ult/ PoetPeter

1:40pm Fri 7 May 10

muttleyhanna says...

Well done Richard, this is a fantastic result. The negative Labour personal attacks back fired big time :-). Jim, I think the job centre is near Asda, you remember the place you and Gordon like to hang out at.
Well done Richard, this is a fantastic result. The negative Labour personal attacks back fired big time :-). Jim, I think the job centre is near Asda, you remember the place you and Gordon like to hang out at. muttleyhanna

2:14pm Fri 7 May 10

martaaay says...

I liked Jim as a person and for the attention he gave Weymouth & Portland, his downfall was due to membership of the labour party, change is needed, I was never going to vote for more of the same
I liked Jim as a person and for the attention he gave Weymouth & Portland, his downfall was due to membership of the labour party, change is needed, I was never going to vote for more of the same martaaay

2:17pm Fri 7 May 10

hoopeybird says...

"Maybe his unelected party leader, or Jim's error in his expenses let him down."
Yes -maybe the so called errors had something to do with it-but I dont care what the reason is-hes out and thats great news.
"Maybe his unelected party leader, or Jim's error in his expenses let him down." Yes -maybe the so called errors had something to do with it-but I dont care what the reason is-hes out and thats great news. hoopeybird

2:39pm Fri 7 May 10

Kim Jong-Il says...

Aye aye - Denton-White voted out on Portland...
Aye aye - Denton-White voted out on Portland... Kim Jong-Il

3:00pm Fri 7 May 10

Fredman says...

Terrible result. Disgrace that we now have a Tory MP.
Terrible result. Disgrace that we now have a Tory MP. Fredman

3:37pm Fri 7 May 10

PoetPeter says...

Fredman wrote:
Terrible result. Disgrace that we now have a Tory MP.
Thank God that you're in a minority
[quote][p][bold]Fredman[/bold] wrote: Terrible result. Disgrace that we now have a Tory MP.[/p][/quote]Thank God that you're in a minority PoetPeter

4:01pm Fri 7 May 10

state says...

Get Brown Out
The country cant afford five more years of sky high taxes yet even higher spending.
Reduce peoples benifits by 10% for every 6 months they are out of work, soon the lazy layabouts will get hungry and may see the benifit of work and paying there way in life.
I am sorry for Jim Knight though as me was a good MP shame it was for Labour
Get Brown Out The country cant afford five more years of sky high taxes yet even higher spending. Reduce peoples benifits by 10% for every 6 months they are out of work, soon the lazy layabouts will get hungry and may see the benifit of work and paying there way in life. I am sorry for Jim Knight though as me was a good MP shame it was for Labour state

4:54pm Fri 7 May 10

FitterC says...

Why have the first three posts been removed? As I recall, they thanked Jim Knight for his work and made broader observations about the expectations for the coming Parliament. None were at all offensive or rude...
Why have the first three posts been removed? As I recall, they thanked Jim Knight for his work and made broader observations about the expectations for the coming Parliament. None were at all offensive or rude... FitterC

5:35pm Fri 7 May 10

RobinofLocksley says...

PoetPeter wrote:
Fredman wrote: Terrible result. Disgrace that we now have a Tory MP.
Thank God that you're in a minority
Ah, PoetPeter, the voice of Sutton Poyntz |-)
[quote][p][bold]PoetPeter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fredman[/bold] wrote: Terrible result. Disgrace that we now have a Tory MP.[/p][/quote]Thank God that you're in a minority[/p][/quote]Ah, PoetPeter, the voice of Sutton Poyntz |-) RobinofLocksley

5:42pm Fri 7 May 10

Mamma Media says...

I have nothing in common with this poshie Richard Drax and I think the majority of people who live in my town don't either. It's sad that people who need a Labour Government haven't bothered to get up off there sofas and vote yesterday.

In my opinion it all comes down to class and money.
I have nothing in common with this poshie Richard Drax and I think the majority of people who live in my town don't either. It's sad that people who need a Labour Government haven't bothered to get up off there sofas and vote yesterday. In my opinion it all comes down to class and money. Mamma Media

6:14pm Fri 7 May 10

heartfelt says...

Mr Drax had a convincing result from a large electoral turn-out coupled with
a healthy majority.In the case of
South Dorset ,Lord Ashcroft must feel his money was well spent,and is now
preparing to fund the inevitable next election which must shortly follow.
Pity Mr Knight never found a similar benefactor--but that's politics for you.
Mr Drax had a convincing result from a large electoral turn-out coupled with a healthy majority.In the case of South Dorset ,Lord Ashcroft must feel his money was well spent,and is now preparing to fund the inevitable next election which must shortly follow. Pity Mr Knight never found a similar benefactor--but that's politics for you. heartfelt

6:30pm Fri 7 May 10

PoetPeter says...

RobinofLocksley wrote:
PoetPeter wrote:
Fredman wrote: Terrible result. Disgrace that we now have a Tory MP.
Thank God that you're in a minority
Ah, PoetPeter, the voice of Sutton Poyntz |-)
Off with his head!
[quote][p][bold]RobinofLocksley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PoetPeter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fredman[/bold] wrote: Terrible result. Disgrace that we now have a Tory MP.[/p][/quote]Thank God that you're in a minority[/p][/quote]Ah, PoetPeter, the voice of Sutton Poyntz |-)[/p][/quote]Off with his head! PoetPeter

6:47pm Fri 7 May 10

poor old taxpayer says...

If Jim was so great how come we have the second highest council tax in the Country? Didn't he have any sway in central grants to local councils?
If Jim was so great how come we have the second highest council tax in the Country? Didn't he have any sway in central grants to local councils? poor old taxpayer

6:54pm Fri 7 May 10

Genghis says...

poor old taxpayer wrote:
If Jim was so great how come we have the second highest council tax in the Country? Didn't he have any sway in central grants to local councils?
Why not ask the Conservative run W&PBC that question? The party of ever increasing Council Tax and stealth taxes (such as car parking fees). Weymouth and Portland - Tory run and Tory taxed to the hilt. A hint of things to come?
[quote][p][bold]poor old taxpayer[/bold] wrote: If Jim was so great how come we have the second highest council tax in the Country? Didn't he have any sway in central grants to local councils?[/p][/quote]Why not ask the Conservative run W&PBC that question? The party of ever increasing Council Tax and stealth taxes (such as car parking fees). Weymouth and Portland - Tory run and Tory taxed to the hilt. A hint of things to come? Genghis

7:09pm Fri 7 May 10

heinrich says...

council tax now theres a thing
100% increase since labour
came to power Dorset amongst
the lowest funded in England
where was Jim when the under
funded free bus pass forced up
council tax?Don't forget that the
majority of tax goes to county
the police and fire authority.The
police and fire authority was
once the responsibility of government and was changed by Labour
council tax now theres a thing 100% increase since labour came to power Dorset amongst the lowest funded in England where was Jim when the under funded free bus pass forced up council tax?Don't forget that the majority of tax goes to county the police and fire authority.The police and fire authority was once the responsibility of government and was changed by Labour heinrich

7:17pm Fri 7 May 10

dun hoping says...

theusualsuspect wrote:
Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic
If you look at the figures for the previous elections that jim won you will find that in 2005 the tory and liberal vote was 26,000 to jims 20,000 and in 2001 the tory and liberal vote was 26,000 to jims 19,000 . So by your own reckoning we have had a labour mp elected by a lesser minority for 9 years .
HOW DEMOCRATIC you pathetic Labour losers .
[quote][p][bold]theusualsuspect[/bold] wrote: Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic[/p][/quote]If you look at the figures for the previous elections that jim won you will find that in 2005 the tory and liberal vote was 26,000 to jims 20,000 and in 2001 the tory and liberal vote was 26,000 to jims 19,000 . So by your own reckoning we have had a labour mp elected by a lesser minority for 9 years . HOW DEMOCRATIC you pathetic Labour losers . dun hoping

7:25pm Fri 7 May 10

Genghis says...

heinrich wrote:
council tax now theres a thing
100% increase since labour
came to power Dorset amongst
the lowest funded in England
where was Jim when the under
funded free bus pass forced up
council tax?Don't forget that the
majority of tax goes to county
the police and fire authority.The
police and fire authority was
once the responsibility of government and was changed by Labour
From what I can remember of 17 years of the last Tory Government Dorset was not well funded from Central Government then either. As long as the big two bully parties rule the roost that won't change either.
The real result of this election is that the electorate has told Labour and the Conservatives they don't want either in the position of Dictator. Time for electoral and Parliamentary change. A hung Parliament is when the "smaller" parties now have to get the bullies to accept changes. What a farce our system is. Conservatives 10,700,000 votes and 306 seats, Labour 8,600,000 votes and 258 seats, Liberal 6,800,000 votes and a miserly 57 seats! As much as I detest the BNP they polled 563,000 votes and didn't get a single seat to represent that half a million people. The Scottish National Party got 491,000 votes and 6 seats. Time for change.
[quote][p][bold]heinrich[/bold] wrote: council tax now theres a thing 100% increase since labour came to power Dorset amongst the lowest funded in England where was Jim when the under funded free bus pass forced up council tax?Don't forget that the majority of tax goes to county the police and fire authority.The police and fire authority was once the responsibility of government and was changed by Labour[/p][/quote]From what I can remember of 17 years of the last Tory Government Dorset was not well funded from Central Government then either. As long as the big two bully parties rule the roost that won't change either. The real result of this election is that the electorate has told Labour and the Conservatives they don't want either in the position of Dictator. Time for electoral and Parliamentary change. A hung Parliament is when the "smaller" parties now have to get the bullies to accept changes. What a farce our system is. Conservatives 10,700,000 votes and 306 seats, Labour 8,600,000 votes and 258 seats, Liberal 6,800,000 votes and a miserly 57 seats! As much as I detest the BNP they polled 563,000 votes and didn't get a single seat to represent that half a million people. The Scottish National Party got 491,000 votes and 6 seats. Time for change. Genghis

7:49pm Fri 7 May 10

dun hoping says...

Well done Richard , Ignore the sour grapes hypochrisy from labour comments . You have been voted in by more people than ever jim was .
Well done Richard , Ignore the sour grapes hypochrisy from labour comments . You have been voted in by more people than ever jim was . dun hoping

9:53pm Fri 7 May 10

lovetheuk says...

Time for Cameron to be brave and step up to the truth, he will not be in government very long. History has shown that deals don't work out very well. John Major was propped up by the Irish and look what a complete failure that government was. The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years. So far the tory's have been so wide of the mark over the economy over the world wide crisis they have been completely clueless. Most ENGLISH people have not voted for policies they have voted because the press especially skynews assassinated Gordon Brown. This election was bought and paid for by tax dodging non doms, who by the way are not in it with us at all they pay NO UK TAX. Now we have tory estate / country house politics running the UK again like in the early 1900s having lovely taxbreaks and making other people pay for it big time.
Time for Cameron to be brave and step up to the truth, he will not be in government very long. History has shown that deals don't work out very well. John Major was propped up by the Irish and look what a complete failure that government was. The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years. So far the tory's have been so wide of the mark over the economy over the world wide crisis they have been completely clueless. Most ENGLISH people have not voted for policies they have voted because the press especially skynews assassinated Gordon Brown. This election was bought and paid for by tax dodging non doms, who by the way are not in it with us at all they pay NO UK TAX. Now we have tory estate / country house politics running the UK again like in the early 1900s having lovely taxbreaks and making other people pay for it big time. lovetheuk

10:05pm Fri 7 May 10

PoetPeter says...

lovetheuk wrote:
Time for Cameron to be brave and step up to the truth, he will not be in government very long. History has shown that deals don't work out very well. John Major was propped up by the Irish and look what a complete failure that government was. The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years. So far the tory's have been so wide of the mark over the economy over the world wide crisis they have been completely clueless. Most ENGLISH people have not voted for policies they have voted because the press especially skynews assassinated Gordon Brown. This election was bought and paid for by tax dodging non doms, who by the way are not in it with us at all they pay NO UK TAX. Now we have tory estate / country house politics running the UK again like in the early 1900s having lovely taxbreaks and making other people pay for it big time.
You may be right about the future of Cameron's government but your paranoia about the press, non-doms, Tory estate/country house politics is like something out of Arthur Scargill land. What's that great big chip on your shoulder?
[quote][p][bold]lovetheuk[/bold] wrote: Time for Cameron to be brave and step up to the truth, he will not be in government very long. History has shown that deals don't work out very well. John Major was propped up by the Irish and look what a complete failure that government was. The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years. So far the tory's have been so wide of the mark over the economy over the world wide crisis they have been completely clueless. Most ENGLISH people have not voted for policies they have voted because the press especially skynews assassinated Gordon Brown. This election was bought and paid for by tax dodging non doms, who by the way are not in it with us at all they pay NO UK TAX. Now we have tory estate / country house politics running the UK again like in the early 1900s having lovely taxbreaks and making other people pay for it big time.[/p][/quote]You may be right about the future of Cameron's government but your paranoia about the press, non-doms, Tory estate/country house politics is like something out of Arthur Scargill land. What's that great big chip on your shoulder? PoetPeter

10:32pm Fri 7 May 10

lovetheuk says...

PoetPeter wrote:
lovetheuk wrote:
Time for Cameron to be brave and step up to the truth, he will not be in government very long. History has shown that deals don't work out very well. John Major was propped up by the Irish and look what a complete failure that government was. The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years. So far the tory's have been so wide of the mark over the economy over the world wide crisis they have been completely clueless. Most ENGLISH people have not voted for policies they have voted because the press especially skynews assassinated Gordon Brown. This election was bought and paid for by tax dodging non doms, who by the way are not in it with us at all they pay NO UK TAX. Now we have tory estate / country house politics running the UK again like in the early 1900s having lovely taxbreaks and making other people pay for it big time.
You may be right about the future of Cameron's government but your paranoia about the press, non-doms, Tory estate/country house politics is like something out of Arthur Scargill land. What's that great big chip on your shoulder?
I have two shoulders so two chips ;-). As for the noia, well I love being conned by the press, if you can't see the wood for the tree's! As for Scargill if Clegg dances with Camewrong we could see Scargill style unrest soon.
[quote][p][bold]PoetPeter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lovetheuk[/bold] wrote: Time for Cameron to be brave and step up to the truth, he will not be in government very long. History has shown that deals don't work out very well. John Major was propped up by the Irish and look what a complete failure that government was. The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years. So far the tory's have been so wide of the mark over the economy over the world wide crisis they have been completely clueless. Most ENGLISH people have not voted for policies they have voted because the press especially skynews assassinated Gordon Brown. This election was bought and paid for by tax dodging non doms, who by the way are not in it with us at all they pay NO UK TAX. Now we have tory estate / country house politics running the UK again like in the early 1900s having lovely taxbreaks and making other people pay for it big time.[/p][/quote]You may be right about the future of Cameron's government but your paranoia about the press, non-doms, Tory estate/country house politics is like something out of Arthur Scargill land. What's that great big chip on your shoulder?[/p][/quote]I have two shoulders so two chips ;-). As for the noia, well I love being conned by the press, if you can't see the wood for the tree's! As for Scargill if Clegg dances with Camewrong we could see Scargill style unrest soon. lovetheuk

10:32pm Fri 7 May 10

weypaul says...

dont assume Cameron will lead the next government. As every fool knows, this was/is a good election to lose.

Cameron is behaving with probity ( a concept not known to Labour) in his dealings with the liberals, but my guess is the liberals really want to deal with labour, in exchange for labour's damascene conversion to the cause of PR in the last 2 weeks of the campaign.
I think however that propping up the deeply dishonest and intellectually bankrupt labour party will come back to haunt the liberals.

Bottom line - as Cameron always said, and as we are now seeing, hung parliaments are really bad news. that is just sinking in and will no dount be remembered at the next election, in about a year.

Watch this space. Tory landslide next time
dont assume Cameron will lead the next government. As every fool knows, this was/is a good election to lose. Cameron is behaving with probity ( a concept not known to Labour) in his dealings with the liberals, but my guess is the liberals really want to deal with labour, in exchange for labour's damascene conversion to the cause of PR in the last 2 weeks of the campaign. I think however that propping up the deeply dishonest and intellectually bankrupt labour party will come back to haunt the liberals. Bottom line - as Cameron always said, and as we are now seeing, hung parliaments are really bad news. that is just sinking in and will no dount be remembered at the next election, in about a year. Watch this space. Tory landslide next time weypaul

10:34pm Fri 7 May 10

weypaul says...

Oh, and how embarrassing is this result for the Echo, which puffed labour to death every single day? Possibly the only "paper" in the country that did so!
Oh, and how embarrassing is this result for the Echo, which puffed labour to death every single day? Possibly the only "paper" in the country that did so! weypaul

10:37pm Fri 7 May 10

lovetheuk says...

Tory landslide next time, in about a years time will kill the tory's for years so that would be good news for all the centre to centre left voters.
Tory landslide next time, in about a years time will kill the tory's for years so that would be good news for all the centre to centre left voters. lovetheuk

11:09pm Fri 7 May 10

franchise says...

Lovetheuk
"The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years."
It wont if the IMF is called in to do the bookeeping of Brown's government which is being suggested at the moment. If this is the case, Brown will have to take the flak for years.
Lovetheuk "The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years." It wont if the IMF is called in to do the bookeeping of Brown's government which is being suggested at the moment. If this is the case, Brown will have to take the flak for years. franchise

11:12pm Fri 7 May 10

lovetheuk says...

So what we need to know is does Mr D pay UK tax is he dom or non dom? Does he have offshore income? If he's all clean then great excellent but if he is non dom or has offshore income/investments then he better not be voting on tax issues as a new MP in a conservative government that would be slightly double standards. Oh and could we have a wind farm on your vast estate, you could sell cheap electricity to all those hard up farmers that can't afford to run their 4x4 Chelsea tractors.
So what we need to know is does Mr D pay UK tax is he dom or non dom? Does he have offshore income? If he's all clean then great excellent but if he is non dom or has offshore income/investments then he better not be voting on tax issues as a new MP in a conservative government that would be slightly double standards. Oh and could we have a wind farm on your vast estate, you could sell cheap electricity to all those hard up farmers that can't afford to run their 4x4 Chelsea tractors. lovetheuk

11:18pm Fri 7 May 10

lovetheuk says...

franchise wrote:
Lovetheuk
"The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years."
It wont if the IMF is called in to do the bookeeping of Brown's government which is being suggested at the moment. If this is the case, Brown will have to take the flak for years.
Sorry currently no loss of AAA rating but that could happen under Mr Camewrong. If you mention the gold then you really don't understand economic's and the current assett speculation bubble on gold.
[quote][p][bold]franchise[/bold] wrote: Lovetheuk "The conservatives will be taking all the bad feeling over the next couple of years, this could kill them off after the next election for years." It wont if the IMF is called in to do the bookeeping of Brown's government which is being suggested at the moment. If this is the case, Brown will have to take the flak for years.[/p][/quote]Sorry currently no loss of AAA rating but that could happen under Mr Camewrong. If you mention the gold then you really don't understand economic's and the current assett speculation bubble on gold. lovetheuk

11:35pm Fri 7 May 10

PoetPeter says...

lovetheuk wrote:
So what we need to know is does Mr D pay UK tax is he dom or non dom? Does he have offshore income? If he's all clean then great excellent but if he is non dom or has offshore income/investments then he better not be voting on tax issues as a new MP in a conservative government that would be slightly double standards. Oh and could we have a wind farm on your vast estate, you could sell cheap electricity to all those hard up farmers that can't afford to run their 4x4 Chelsea tractors.
Love is blind
[quote][p][bold]lovetheuk[/bold] wrote: So what we need to know is does Mr D pay UK tax is he dom or non dom? Does he have offshore income? If he's all clean then great excellent but if he is non dom or has offshore income/investments then he better not be voting on tax issues as a new MP in a conservative government that would be slightly double standards. Oh and could we have a wind farm on your vast estate, you could sell cheap electricity to all those hard up farmers that can't afford to run their 4x4 Chelsea tractors.[/p][/quote]Love is blind PoetPeter

11:44pm Fri 7 May 10

Kronstadt21 says...

PoetPeter, Sutton Poyntz says...
"Love is blind"
No more so than parochialism
PoetPeter, Sutton Poyntz says... "Love is blind" No more so than parochialism Kronstadt21

12:08am Sat 8 May 10

lovetheuk says...

PoetPeter wrote:
lovetheuk wrote:
So what we need to know is does Mr D pay UK tax is he dom or non dom? Does he have offshore income? If he's all clean then great excellent but if he is non dom or has offshore income/investments then he better not be voting on tax issues as a new MP in a conservative government that would be slightly double standards. Oh and could we have a wind farm on your vast estate, you could sell cheap electricity to all those hard up farmers that can't afford to run their 4x4 Chelsea tractors.
Love is blind
Praise or blame has but a momentary effect on the man whose love of beauty in the abstract makes him a severe critic on his own works.

or if you prefer

The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts.
[quote][p][bold]PoetPeter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lovetheuk[/bold] wrote: So what we need to know is does Mr D pay UK tax is he dom or non dom? Does he have offshore income? If he's all clean then great excellent but if he is non dom or has offshore income/investments then he better not be voting on tax issues as a new MP in a conservative government that would be slightly double standards. Oh and could we have a wind farm on your vast estate, you could sell cheap electricity to all those hard up farmers that can't afford to run their 4x4 Chelsea tractors.[/p][/quote]Love is blind[/p][/quote]Praise or blame has but a momentary effect on the man whose love of beauty in the abstract makes him a severe critic on his own works. or if you prefer The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts. lovetheuk

7:51am Sat 8 May 10

potterguy says...

lovetheuk wrote:
So what we need to know is does Mr D pay UK tax is he dom or non dom? Does he have offshore income? If he's all clean then great excellent but if he is non dom or has offshore income/investments then he better not be voting on tax issues as a new MP in a conservative government that would be slightly double standards. Oh and could we have a wind farm on your vast estate, you could sell cheap electricity to all those hard up farmers that can't afford to run their 4x4 Chelsea tractors.
I beleive there are rules now or always has been that people in the house of commons have to be UK tax payers so yes he does
[quote][p][bold]lovetheuk[/bold] wrote: So what we need to know is does Mr D pay UK tax is he dom or non dom? Does he have offshore income? If he's all clean then great excellent but if he is non dom or has offshore income/investments then he better not be voting on tax issues as a new MP in a conservative government that would be slightly double standards. Oh and could we have a wind farm on your vast estate, you could sell cheap electricity to all those hard up farmers that can't afford to run their 4x4 Chelsea tractors.[/p][/quote]I beleive there are rules now or always has been that people in the house of commons have to be UK tax payers so yes he does potterguy

11:57am Sat 8 May 10

weypaul says...

FROM THE BBC WEBSITE:

BREAKING NEWSLiberal Democrat sources have told the BBC's Jon Sopel that Gordon Brown delivered a diatribe laced with threats when he spoke to Nick Clegg last night by phone. It was in sharp contrast to the respectful and constructive talk between David Cameron and Mr Clegg, they added.
FROM THE BBC WEBSITE: BREAKING NEWSLiberal Democrat sources have told the BBC's Jon Sopel that Gordon Brown delivered a diatribe laced with threats when he spoke to Nick Clegg last night by phone. It was in sharp contrast to the respectful and constructive talk between David Cameron and Mr Clegg, they added. weypaul

12:51pm Sat 8 May 10

biggestoaf says...

Also from the BBC website:

1234: More about that phone call between Gordon Brown and Nick Clegg. A Lib Dem source has told BBC chief political correspondent Laura Kuenssberg that it was a perfectly amicable conversation, and not an angry exchange.
Also from the BBC website: 1234: More about that phone call between Gordon Brown and Nick Clegg. A Lib Dem source has told BBC chief political correspondent Laura Kuenssberg that it was a perfectly amicable conversation, and not an angry exchange. biggestoaf

2:29pm Sat 8 May 10

weypaul says...

Brown is just a squatter, and a very nasty one at that.You know the type - tattoos, dangerous dogs,(ieCharlie Whelan, Mandelson, Alistair Campbell) etc.
Both he and the Liberals lost the election. If, as seems likely, we are to be governed by a Lib/Lab alliance, it will have zero legitimacy and will last less than a year.

Hands up all those who think hung parliaments and proportional representation are good ideas? Permanent king making rights for the liberals - schizophrenia institutionalised!!!


Yes, lets have a referendum on PR - the country will reject it out of hand; then we can re-run this election. In the meantime, our economy will have demonstrated that it is Greek, and the IMF will be in charge.
Brown is just a squatter, and a very nasty one at that.You know the type - tattoos, dangerous dogs,(ieCharlie Whelan, Mandelson, Alistair Campbell) etc. Both he and the Liberals lost the election. If, as seems likely, we are to be governed by a Lib/Lab alliance, it will have zero legitimacy and will last less than a year. Hands up all those who think hung parliaments and proportional representation are good ideas? Permanent king making rights for the liberals - schizophrenia institutionalised!!! Yes, lets have a referendum on PR - the country will reject it out of hand; then we can re-run this election. In the meantime, our economy will have demonstrated that it is Greek, and the IMF will be in charge. weypaul

2:31pm Sat 8 May 10

stevefraggle says...

theusualsuspect wrote:
Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic
By the same token, that means that over 33,000 DIDN'T want Knight - spin, or democracy?
[quote][p][bold]theusualsuspect[/bold] wrote: Looking at the Labour and Lib dem vote I make it 24781 people who didn't want Drax, so now we have an MP voted in by the minority - how democratic[/p][/quote]By the same token, that means that over 33,000 DIDN'T want Knight - spin, or democracy? stevefraggle

3:20pm Sat 8 May 10

biggestoaf says...

@weypaul
The problem is that no-one won this election. And before you say the Conservatives did, you need to remember that we do not elect our executive, only our legislature. Any government requires the support of our elected House of Commons and, at the moment, no single party can claim that support. So for the time being Gordon Brown is constitutionally correct to wait and see if Cameron and Clegg can reach an agreement that will allow either a minority Conservative government (with informal LibDem support) or a coalition. I have no doubt that, if that agreement is reached, Brown will resign.
I agree we should do "hands up" to see who wants electoral reform. I don't share your view that the British people would reject it out of hand. Let's have a referendum and find out.
@weypaul The problem is that no-one won this election. And before you say the Conservatives did, you need to remember that we do not elect our executive, only our legislature. Any government requires the support of our elected House of Commons and, at the moment, no single party can claim that support. So for the time being Gordon Brown is constitutionally correct to wait and see if Cameron and Clegg can reach an agreement that will allow either a minority Conservative government (with informal LibDem support) or a coalition. I have no doubt that, if that agreement is reached, Brown will resign. I agree we should do "hands up" to see who wants electoral reform. I don't share your view that the British people would reject it out of hand. Let's have a referendum and find out. biggestoaf

7:50pm Sat 8 May 10

weypaul says...

oaf,

constitutional niceties are one thing, the political facts of life are another.

Mr Clegg seems to know that if he props up the dishonest discredited morally and intellectually bankrupt labour party, he will pay a very heavy price at the next election, which will be in about a year. He and his party failed to achieve any sort of mandate, especially not a mandate to keep labour in power and squatter GB in no 10. However, the bulk of liberal members feel otherwise and may not let him do a deal with the Tories.
Either way its a win for the Tories, either now or next year. Next year may be better, then they wont even get the blame for the second recession which is just around the corner.
I'd be happy with a referendum on PR; the Tories are wrong not to concede that, but then Cameron has to pander to his members too.
Perhaps all us passionate contributors to this column should form a COFFEE HOUSE!!
oaf, constitutional niceties are one thing, the political facts of life are another. Mr Clegg seems to know that if he props up the dishonest discredited morally and intellectually bankrupt labour party, he will pay a very heavy price at the next election, which will be in about a year. He and his party failed to achieve any sort of mandate, especially not a mandate to keep labour in power and squatter GB in no 10. However, the bulk of liberal members feel otherwise and may not let him do a deal with the Tories. Either way its a win for the Tories, either now or next year. Next year may be better, then they wont even get the blame for the second recession which is just around the corner. I'd be happy with a referendum on PR; the Tories are wrong not to concede that, but then Cameron has to pander to his members too. Perhaps all us passionate contributors to this column should form a COFFEE HOUSE!! weypaul

8:22am Sun 9 May 10

RobinofLocksley says...

"............Perhaps all us passionate contributors to this column should form a COFFEE HOUSE!!"
With such a range of opinions expressed here, would we ever agree on which one ? |-)
Nice idea, though.
"............Perhaps all us passionate contributors to this column should form a COFFEE HOUSE!!" With such a range of opinions expressed here, would we ever agree on which one ? |-) Nice idea, though. RobinofLocksley

9:51am Sun 9 May 10

PoetPeter says...

RobinofLocksley wrote:
"............Perhaps all us passionate contributors to this column should form a COFFEE HOUSE!!"
With such a range of opinions expressed here, would we ever agree on which one ? |-)
Nice idea, though.
Weypaul and Robin Hood, I agree. It would be good to find a coffee house (or a pub) in the area where there is good conversation with passionate, articulate people. It's something that is missing in Weymouth
[quote][p][bold]RobinofLocksley[/bold] wrote: "............Perhaps all us passionate contributors to this column should form a COFFEE HOUSE!!" With such a range of opinions expressed here, would we ever agree on which one ? |-) Nice idea, though.[/p][/quote]Weypaul and Robin Hood, I agree. It would be good to find a coffee house (or a pub) in the area where there is good conversation with passionate, articulate people. It's something that is missing in Weymouth PoetPeter

11:45am Sun 9 May 10

Genghis says...

weypaul wrote:
Brown is just a squatter, and a very nasty one at that.You know the type - tattoos, dangerous dogs,(ieCharlie Whelan, Mandelson, Alistair Campbell) etc.
Both he and the Liberals lost the election. If, as seems likely, we are to be governed by a Lib/Lab alliance, it will have zero legitimacy and will last less than a year.

Hands up all those who think hung parliaments and proportional representation are good ideas? Permanent king making rights for the liberals - schizophrenia institutionalised!!!



Yes, lets have a referendum on PR - the country will reject it out of hand; then we can re-run this election. In the meantime, our economy will have demonstrated that it is Greek, and the IMF will be in charge.
A hung Parliament? Yes it's good news if only as a temporary break from the eternal swinging between two thoroughly distasteful and bankrupt political parties. Tag in the totally corrupt nature of the political system we now have where all the political parties are up to their necks in the trough and yes it's time for a change. Not only has the electoral system got to be overhauled but the whole political system has to be looked at. A continuation of the last thirty years (and beyond) of one party or the other dishing out the favours isn't on.
It's interesting to note that as the discussions continue all parties are paying lip service to what's beneficial to the national interest. It takes a hung Parliament to wake them up to the fact that they should be running the country in the national interest! For far too long the country has been run for the interest of either the Labour Party or the Conservative Party and stuff the rest of us.
Never again should Labour or Conservatives be allowed to put their own bankrupt visions of perfection over the interests of everybody else. There are more viewpoints than those spouted by Labour and Conservatives and it's time we had governments that take on board some of those other opinions rather than the stale dogma that has been rammed down our throats by the big two.
Gordon Brown hanging on in 10 Downing Street? Sadly just a constitutional formality until the discussions have run their course. No need for the rabid complaints from the Tories. It's something that has happened in the past and has been used by other parties. Edward Heath in early 1970s being the last time if I remember correctly. Another symptom of the need for Labour and Conservatives to cling to power for as long as possible?
[quote][p][bold]weypaul[/bold] wrote: Brown is just a squatter, and a very nasty one at that.You know the type - tattoos, dangerous dogs,(ieCharlie Whelan, Mandelson, Alistair Campbell) etc. Both he and the Liberals lost the election. If, as seems likely, we are to be governed by a Lib/Lab alliance, it will have zero legitimacy and will last less than a year. Hands up all those who think hung parliaments and proportional representation are good ideas? Permanent king making rights for the liberals - schizophrenia institutionalised!!! Yes, lets have a referendum on PR - the country will reject it out of hand; then we can re-run this election. In the meantime, our economy will have demonstrated that it is Greek, and the IMF will be in charge.[/p][/quote]A hung Parliament? Yes it's good news if only as a temporary break from the eternal swinging between two thoroughly distasteful and bankrupt political parties. Tag in the totally corrupt nature of the political system we now have where all the political parties are up to their necks in the trough and yes it's time for a change. Not only has the electoral system got to be overhauled but the whole political system has to be looked at. A continuation of the last thirty years (and beyond) of one party or the other dishing out the favours isn't on. It's interesting to note that as the discussions continue all parties are paying lip service to what's beneficial to the national interest. It takes a hung Parliament to wake them up to the fact that they should be running the country in the national interest! For far too long the country has been run for the interest of either the Labour Party or the Conservative Party and stuff the rest of us. Never again should Labour or Conservatives be allowed to put their own bankrupt visions of perfection over the interests of everybody else. There are more viewpoints than those spouted by Labour and Conservatives and it's time we had governments that take on board some of those other opinions rather than the stale dogma that has been rammed down our throats by the big two. Gordon Brown hanging on in 10 Downing Street? Sadly just a constitutional formality until the discussions have run their course. No need for the rabid complaints from the Tories. It's something that has happened in the past and has been used by other parties. Edward Heath in early 1970s being the last time if I remember correctly. Another symptom of the need for Labour and Conservatives to cling to power for as long as possible? Genghis

11:54am Sun 9 May 10

PoetPeter says...

Genghis! Too much slash and burn cynicism from you!


http://peterreynolds
.wordpress.com/2010/
05/09/new-politics/


Try some optimism. Things might just be changing!
Genghis! Too much slash and burn cynicism from you! http://peterreynolds .wordpress.com/2010/ 05/09/new-politics/ Try some optimism. Things might just be changing! PoetPeter

8:10pm Sun 9 May 10

Genghis says...

PoetPeter wrote:
Genghis! Too much slash and burn cynicism from you!


http://peterreynolds

.wordpress.com/2010/

05/09/new-politics/


Try some optimism. Things might just be changing!
No I'm hopeful that with a hung Parliament that the political parties will finally see that change is needed. The statements coming from quite a number of the Labour and Conservative MPs today still leaves me short of being optimistic that they will actually do that.
The result of the election is an obvious defeat for the Labour Party but in no way is it a victory for the Conservatives. The result given by the electorate leaves neither of them in control. So let Parliament try working together as the electorate wants. I'm hoping they will but won't trust that will be the case until there are actions rather than words. The behaviour of politicians over the years has ruled out optimism and blind faith as a basis for change. Let's see proof of the pudding and then trust can be restored.
[quote][p][bold]PoetPeter[/bold] wrote: Genghis! Too much slash and burn cynicism from you! http://peterreynolds .wordpress.com/2010/ 05/09/new-politics/ Try some optimism. Things might just be changing![/p][/quote]No I'm hopeful that with a hung Parliament that the political parties will finally see that change is needed. The statements coming from quite a number of the Labour and Conservative MPs today still leaves me short of being optimistic that they will actually do that. The result of the election is an obvious defeat for the Labour Party but in no way is it a victory for the Conservatives. The result given by the electorate leaves neither of them in control. So let Parliament try working together as the electorate wants. I'm hoping they will but won't trust that will be the case until there are actions rather than words. The behaviour of politicians over the years has ruled out optimism and blind faith as a basis for change. Let's see proof of the pudding and then trust can be restored. Genghis

10:05pm Sun 9 May 10

George Bubb D says...

What a lot of rot you people talk. We need a good old fashion dictatorship!!! that would stop a lot of the silly comments from this site.
God bless Maggie thatcher!
What a lot of rot you people talk. We need a good old fashion dictatorship!!! that would stop a lot of the silly comments from this site. God bless Maggie thatcher! George Bubb D

10:42pm Sun 9 May 10

Giblet says...

Draxula the Slave Trader
Draxula the Slave Trader Giblet

1:26pm Mon 10 May 10

dun hoping says...

Giblet wrote:
Draxula the Slave Trader
As your comment proves talking from your uranus lol .
[quote][p][bold]Giblet[/bold] wrote: Draxula the Slave Trader[/p][/quote]As your comment proves talking from your uranus lol . dun hoping

3:17pm Mon 10 May 10

notreally says...

Here's hoping that Jim will be back one day soon. Thanks for everything you've done for us - your speech on Friday morning brought a tear to my eye!
Here's hoping that Jim will be back one day soon. Thanks for everything you've done for us - your speech on Friday morning brought a tear to my eye! notreally

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