Parking U-turn by Olympic organisers

A PARK and ride site will be free for the next two days in a bid to get more visitors coming to Weymouth and Portland for the Olympics.
Dorset’s Olympic Board says the parking charges have been dropped because there haven’t been as many visitors to Weymouth as originally planned for.
The Echo reported yesterday that traders said they are losing up to 50 per cent of their business as visitors shun the Olympics in the borough.
The Monkey’s Jump park and ride site at Dorchester is free all day today and tomorrow and will be free on Friday from 2.30pm.
Free shuttle buses will take passengers from Monkey Jump to the Swannery transport hub in the centre of Weymouth.
Two other car parks – Preston Beach and Mount Pleasant in Weymouth – will remain subject to the £10 parking charge throughout the Games, as the main sites serving ticketed spectators
A fourth site – at Kingston Maurward – will be kept in reserve in case of additional demand, but will not otherwise operate. Should it open, it will also be free at the same times as the Monkey Jump site.
Angus Campbell, Chairman of Dorset's Olympic Board, said: “We are doing what we can to encourage people to come to the town. 
"This reduction of prices for the park-and-ride facilities will, we hope, make it an even better value day out to an Olympic venue and boost numbers accordingly.
"Weymouth has a tremendous amount on offer for visitors and we have had rave reviews from those who have already come to soak up the Olympic atmosphere.
"We hope to see many more in the coming days as we approach the excitement of the medal races in the sailing events at the weekend."
Hugh Sumner, the ODA’s director of transport, said: “We hope our free parking initiative will get thousands of extra visitors in to Weymouth and Portland to enjoy their beaches, shops and attractions. Weymouth and Portland is very definitely open for business but visitors should plan ahead and check before they travel.”

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10:05am Wed 1 Aug 12

tedbungy says...

At least the are doing something lets hope its not to late
At least the are doing something lets hope its not to late tedbungy

10:07am Wed 1 Aug 12

maximan says...

"Can they drop me at Morrisons?"
"Can they drop me at Morrisons?" maximan

10:15am Wed 1 Aug 12

Laadeeda says...

I fear too little too late!
I fear too little too late! Laadeeda

10:22am Wed 1 Aug 12

rjimmer says...

I think the damage was done some time ago when the charges were announced. I doubt many people are flexible enough with their holiday arrangements to suddenly change them, especially when it is school holiday time.
I think the damage was done some time ago when the charges were announced. I doubt many people are flexible enough with their holiday arrangements to suddenly change them, especially when it is school holiday time. rjimmer

10:26am Wed 1 Aug 12

ianplambert says...

Far too little and far too late! Slashing the prices now is all very well, but who knows you have slashed them? Is Angus Cambell so anul as to believe that thousands of visitors are waiting at home on their own starting block for the price reduction so they can all run like crazy to Weymouth?

All you lot have done is re create an English farce....... only it's not very funny. There are less holiday makers than normal and a handful of 'visitors', the seasonal work most locals relied on is drying up fast. If the money does not come in for local businesses then staff will have to be let go which means longer and more unemployment than usual.

Tear down the barriers immediately, don't think about it, don't flipping vote on it, don't wait until the last minute and look even more stupid than you do,

TEAR DOWN THOSE BARRIERS IMMEDIATELY AND REMOVE ALL TICKET ENTRANCES AND LET THE PEOPLE OF WEYMOUTH AND PORTLAND ENJOY WHAT'S LEFT OF THE OLYMPICS ON THEIR OWN BEACH AND THEIR OWN PARK!!!! TEAR THEM DOWN NOW!!!
Far too little and far too late! Slashing the prices now is all very well, but who knows you have slashed them? Is Angus Cambell so anul as to believe that thousands of visitors are waiting at home on their own starting block for the price reduction so they can all run like crazy to Weymouth? All you lot have done is re create an English farce....... only it's not very funny. There are less holiday makers than normal and a handful of 'visitors', the seasonal work most locals relied on is drying up fast. If the money does not come in for local businesses then staff will have to be let go which means longer and more unemployment than usual. Tear down the barriers immediately, don't think about it, don't flipping vote on it, don't wait until the last minute and look even more stupid than you do, TEAR DOWN THOSE BARRIERS IMMEDIATELY AND REMOVE ALL TICKET ENTRANCES AND LET THE PEOPLE OF WEYMOUTH AND PORTLAND ENJOY WHAT'S LEFT OF THE OLYMPICS ON THEIR OWN BEACH AND THEIR OWN PARK!!!! TEAR THEM DOWN NOW!!! ianplambert

10:37am Wed 1 Aug 12

jcrwey says...

ianplambert - the beach is FREE so no need to rip down the barriers on it!

Least the council are listening (admitingly finally for once!)
ianplambert - the beach is FREE so no need to rip down the barriers on it! Least the council are listening (admitingly finally for once!) jcrwey

10:47am Wed 1 Aug 12

Duckorange says...

Poor, wrong ianplambert
Poor, wrong ianplambert Duckorange

11:06am Wed 1 Aug 12

Laughing gnome says...

GREAT. Free parking at monkeys jump for a couple of days, that should really get things moving.......NOT !
For goodness sake, just reduce the price of all the parking to £5 per day & maybe, just maybe it will make a difference.
GREAT. Free parking at monkeys jump for a couple of days, that should really get things moving.......NOT ! For goodness sake, just reduce the price of all the parking to £5 per day & maybe, just maybe it will make a difference. Laughing gnome

11:16am Wed 1 Aug 12

maximan says...

The amount of vehicles in the park and ride is around the same amount as car parking spaces in the Swannery car park....ironic that
The amount of vehicles in the park and ride is around the same amount as car parking spaces in the Swannery car park....ironic that maximan

11:21am Wed 1 Aug 12

Presstostop says...

Can somebody tell me why Kings Street and The Esplanade are closed?
Can somebody tell me why Kings Street and The Esplanade are closed? Presstostop

11:25am Wed 1 Aug 12

iampuzzled says...

Presstostop
So that all the visitors that have not come can walk around.
Presstostop So that all the visitors that have not come can walk around. iampuzzled

11:37am Wed 1 Aug 12

Laadeeda says...

iampuzzled wrote:
Presstostop
So that all the visitors that have not come can walk around.
Ha Ha Ha, PMSL.
[quote][p][bold]iampuzzled[/bold] wrote: Presstostop So that all the visitors that have not come can walk around.[/p][/quote]Ha Ha Ha, PMSL. Laadeeda

11:51am Wed 1 Aug 12

bandit1 says...

Years of traffic upsets for nothing what a waste of money ,and now the roads are done there`s nobody on them.
Just open Weymouth up let people who live here enjoy it and anybody else who hasn`t been scared away.
Years of traffic upsets for nothing what a waste of money ,and now the roads are done there`s nobody on them. Just open Weymouth up let people who live here enjoy it and anybody else who hasn`t been scared away. bandit1

11:52am Wed 1 Aug 12

annotator1 says...

Why so long to realise their error?
Too late, the trade in the town is dead. Signs on most motorways and main roads telling drivers not to come to Weymouth due to the congestion. The congestion, what little there is of it, is caused by road closures that are totally unnecessary. Close the Esplanade if you desire for safety reasons but not the rest! No holiday makers, poor Guest House/Hotel bookings. Shops are going to the wall with poor sales, all because of the 'games' and bad management.
Why so long to realise their error? Too late, the trade in the town is dead. Signs on most motorways and main roads telling drivers not to come to Weymouth due to the congestion. The congestion, what little there is of it, is caused by road closures that are totally unnecessary. Close the Esplanade if you desire for safety reasons but not the rest! No holiday makers, poor Guest House/Hotel bookings. Shops are going to the wall with poor sales, all because of the 'games' and bad management. annotator1

11:57am Wed 1 Aug 12

marsh1234 says...

Whos paying for all the empty buses, and the people lounging around in the car parks?
I think too little too late to be honest..lets just hope the shops are still there when the olympics have gone.
Whos paying for all the empty buses, and the people lounging around in the car parks? I think too little too late to be honest..lets just hope the shops are still there when the olympics have gone. marsh1234

12:15pm Wed 1 Aug 12

portlandboy says...

Is the field at Monkey's Jump suitable for disabled parking? Having driven past it I doubt that one could push a wheelchair through the field and onto a bus. And do the double deckers that run from the other park and ride sites kneel down for disabled access? Hope they do, because the Paralympics will certainly attract disabled visitors (at least a few!).
Is the field at Monkey's Jump suitable for disabled parking? Having driven past it I doubt that one could push a wheelchair through the field and onto a bus. And do the double deckers that run from the other park and ride sites kneel down for disabled access? Hope they do, because the Paralympics will certainly attract disabled visitors (at least a few!). portlandboy

12:57pm Wed 1 Aug 12

wykeregislad says...

The beach is free , most of the other attractions are now free the signs have changed to no delay so instead of mocking this lets get behind and enjoy it, it will never ever happen again, I'm loving it, I feel sorry for the local trade and guest houses but after checking out a few yesterday on the front there still charging huge amounts to stay , trying to cash in, so for you guys I have no sympthamy , for the people who haven't tried to cash in I'm feel sorry for you and hope it picks up.
Instead of all being negative lets try and enjoy a once in a lifetime event , you can watch it for free if you know Weymouth there's loads of spots,
The beach is free , most of the other attractions are now free the signs have changed to no delay so instead of mocking this lets get behind and enjoy it, it will never ever happen again, I'm loving it, I feel sorry for the local trade and guest houses but after checking out a few yesterday on the front there still charging huge amounts to stay , trying to cash in, so for you guys I have no sympthamy , for the people who haven't tried to cash in I'm feel sorry for you and hope it picks up. Instead of all being negative lets try and enjoy a once in a lifetime event , you can watch it for free if you know Weymouth there's loads of spots, wykeregislad

1:04pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Laadeeda says...

wykeregislad wrote:
The beach is free , most of the other attractions are now free the signs have changed to no delay so instead of mocking this lets get behind and enjoy it, it will never ever happen again, I'm loving it, I feel sorry for the local trade and guest houses but after checking out a few yesterday on the front there still charging huge amounts to stay , trying to cash in, so for you guys I have no sympthamy , for the people who haven't tried to cash in I'm feel sorry for you and hope it picks up.
Instead of all being negative lets try and enjoy a once in a lifetime event , you can watch it for free if you know Weymouth there's loads of spots,
Right, you all read Wykeregislad, lets all be positive about all this negativity!!!
[quote][p][bold]wykeregislad[/bold] wrote: The beach is free , most of the other attractions are now free the signs have changed to no delay so instead of mocking this lets get behind and enjoy it, it will never ever happen again, I'm loving it, I feel sorry for the local trade and guest houses but after checking out a few yesterday on the front there still charging huge amounts to stay , trying to cash in, so for you guys I have no sympthamy , for the people who haven't tried to cash in I'm feel sorry for you and hope it picks up. Instead of all being negative lets try and enjoy a once in a lifetime event , you can watch it for free if you know Weymouth there's loads of spots,[/p][/quote]Right, you all read Wykeregislad, lets all be positive about all this negativity!!! Laadeeda

1:06pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Mr Dudbrey says...

Once in a lifetime event?

thank god for that
Once in a lifetime event? thank god for that Mr Dudbrey

1:10pm Wed 1 Aug 12

dontbuyit says...

So where's the 60,000 a day that Angus Campbell and crew told us would be visiting? Will they now admit their projections were way off? Doubt it somehow even though some of us have said for years that sailing is not a spectator sport. Vast amounts of money spent so that businesses can go bust, more unemployment, and less tax revenues for their coffers. Sounds like an own goal to me.
So where's the 60,000 a day that Angus Campbell and crew told us would be visiting? Will they now admit their projections were way off? Doubt it somehow even though some of us have said for years that sailing is not a spectator sport. Vast amounts of money spent so that businesses can go bust, more unemployment, and less tax revenues for their coffers. Sounds like an own goal to me. dontbuyit

1:11pm Wed 1 Aug 12

wykeregislad says...

Mr Dudbrey wrote:
Once in a lifetime event?

thank god for that
Maybe you should have moved or gone on holiday then, and done us all a favour
[quote][p][bold]Mr Dudbrey[/bold] wrote: Once in a lifetime event? thank god for that[/p][/quote]Maybe you should have moved or gone on holiday then, and done us all a favour wykeregislad

1:17pm Wed 1 Aug 12

wykeregislad says...

dontbuyit wrote:
So where's the 60,000 a day that Angus Campbell and crew told us would be visiting? Will they now admit their projections were way off? Doubt it somehow even though some of us have said for years that sailing is not a spectator sport. Vast amounts of money spent so that businesses can go bust, more unemployment, and less tax revenues for their coffers. Sounds like an own goal to me.
Local hotels cashing in we tried three yesterday all had vacancies but charging extreme amounts of money
I feel for the guys who've kept there prices the same, having worked on the live site all week the numbers have increased every day, still not the numbers you would expect this time of the year during the summer school holidays,but there increasing, as we approach this coming weekend the medal races start and I believe that alone will drag people in
[quote][p][bold]dontbuyit[/bold] wrote: So where's the 60,000 a day that Angus Campbell and crew told us would be visiting? Will they now admit their projections were way off? Doubt it somehow even though some of us have said for years that sailing is not a spectator sport. Vast amounts of money spent so that businesses can go bust, more unemployment, and less tax revenues for their coffers. Sounds like an own goal to me.[/p][/quote]Local hotels cashing in we tried three yesterday all had vacancies but charging extreme amounts of money I feel for the guys who've kept there prices the same, having worked on the live site all week the numbers have increased every day, still not the numbers you would expect this time of the year during the summer school holidays,but there increasing, as we approach this coming weekend the medal races start and I believe that alone will drag people in wykeregislad

1:20pm Wed 1 Aug 12

scubadude says...

Public Enquiry and heads rolling is the only acceptable result of the total balls-up planning that preceeded this event. On the plus side the town is lovely and empty for us locals to enjoy, shame it'll all have to close in September now :-(
Public Enquiry and heads rolling is the only acceptable result of the total balls-up planning that preceeded this event. On the plus side the town is lovely and empty for us locals to enjoy, shame it'll all have to close in September now :-( scubadude

1:34pm Wed 1 Aug 12

satisfecho says...

scubadude wrote:
Public Enquiry and heads rolling is the only acceptable result of the total balls-up planning that preceeded this event. On the plus side the town is lovely and empty for us locals to enjoy, shame it'll all have to close in September now :-(
How many on here vote at the local elections?
[quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: Public Enquiry and heads rolling is the only acceptable result of the total balls-up planning that preceeded this event. On the plus side the town is lovely and empty for us locals to enjoy, shame it'll all have to close in September now :-([/p][/quote]How many on here vote at the local elections? satisfecho

1:43pm Wed 1 Aug 12

cj07589 says...

The best place to be is certainly not here....a couple of weeks in France until this expensive over rated sporting palaver is finished. Besides there is little point in watching sailing from the shoreline, you need to be on a boat close to the action or watch it on TV in the comfort of your own living room to appreciate the competition. At least at home you wont be searched, interrograted by the 'Brand' police and held to ransom for food and drink. Also please remind me how many nurses, police officers and army personel £9.3billion would have brought.
The best place to be is certainly not here....a couple of weeks in France until this expensive over rated sporting palaver is finished. Besides there is little point in watching sailing from the shoreline, you need to be on a boat close to the action or watch it on TV in the comfort of your own living room to appreciate the competition. At least at home you wont be searched, interrograted by the 'Brand' police and held to ransom for food and drink. Also please remind me how many nurses, police officers and army personel £9.3billion would have brought. cj07589

1:56pm Wed 1 Aug 12

chesilboy says...

"heads should roll", "total farce", "realise their error", "tear down the barriers", "money grabbing"...

I must live in a different town to most of you guys. All I can see is an honest attempt to welcome visitors to our town. The organisation looks slick and professional, and many things with the exception of the Nothe are FREE OF CHARGE. Even £10 for all day parking plus a return group bus journey is hardly off the scale is it?

The visitor numbers are obviously well down (hindsight occurs after an event), but at least we were prepared - we can't force people to come. The Olympics were happening whether we liked it or not. No-one has done anything to deliberately drive people away - quite the opposite.

So aside from sweeping generalisms, and feeling the need to blame someone, who has actually done anything wrong and what are the charges?
"heads should roll", "total farce", "realise their error", "tear down the barriers", "money grabbing"... I must live in a different town to most of you guys. All I can see is an honest attempt to welcome visitors to our town. The organisation looks slick and professional, and many things with the exception of the Nothe are FREE OF CHARGE. Even £10 for all day parking plus a return group bus journey is hardly off the scale is it? The visitor numbers are obviously well down (hindsight occurs after an event), but at least we were prepared - we can't force people to come. The Olympics were happening whether we liked it or not. No-one has done anything to deliberately drive people away - quite the opposite. So aside from sweeping generalisms, and feeling the need to blame someone, who has actually done anything wrong and what are the charges? chesilboy

2:04pm Wed 1 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

chesilboy wrote:
"heads should roll", "total farce", "realise their error", "tear down the barriers", "money grabbing"...

I must live in a different town to most of you guys. All I can see is an honest attempt to welcome visitors to our town. The organisation looks slick and professional, and many things with the exception of the Nothe are FREE OF CHARGE. Even £10 for all day parking plus a return group bus journey is hardly off the scale is it?

The visitor numbers are obviously well down (hindsight occurs after an event), but at least we were prepared - we can't force people to come. The Olympics were happening whether we liked it or not. No-one has done anything to deliberately drive people away - quite the opposite.

So aside from sweeping generalisms, and feeling the need to blame someone, who has actually done anything wrong and what are the charges?
Rare for me to disagree with you, but on this one you are wrong, Chesil. Experience from other games has shown that the satellite towns end up with little to show for the games but debts. People don't travel for the sailing - most aren't interested. All that happens is that the normal tourist crowd stay away. Instead of hype, it would have been better to portray a realistic view of how many people were likely to come so that tourists were not put off. Reports are increasingly making it clear that the same thing is happening in London. What i find funny is that everybody is keen to point to wet weather or celebration of our monarchy as a reason for lost revenues, but everybody was hyping up the Olympics even in the face of evidence from other venues. In Montreal, for example, they are still paying higher VAT on certain goods (tobacco and alcohol) to pay for their games. And in case you need a refresher, they hosted the 1976 events.
[quote][p][bold]chesilboy[/bold] wrote: "heads should roll", "total farce", "realise their error", "tear down the barriers", "money grabbing"... I must live in a different town to most of you guys. All I can see is an honest attempt to welcome visitors to our town. The organisation looks slick and professional, and many things with the exception of the Nothe are FREE OF CHARGE. Even £10 for all day parking plus a return group bus journey is hardly off the scale is it? The visitor numbers are obviously well down (hindsight occurs after an event), but at least we were prepared - we can't force people to come. The Olympics were happening whether we liked it or not. No-one has done anything to deliberately drive people away - quite the opposite. So aside from sweeping generalisms, and feeling the need to blame someone, who has actually done anything wrong and what are the charges?[/p][/quote]Rare for me to disagree with you, but on this one you are wrong, Chesil. Experience from other games has shown that the satellite towns end up with little to show for the games but debts. People don't travel for the sailing - most aren't interested. All that happens is that the normal tourist crowd stay away. Instead of hype, it would have been better to portray a realistic view of how many people were likely to come so that tourists were not put off. Reports are increasingly making it clear that the same thing is happening in London. What i find funny is that everybody is keen to point to wet weather or celebration of our monarchy as a reason for lost revenues, but everybody was hyping up the Olympics even in the face of evidence from other venues. In Montreal, for example, they are still paying higher VAT on certain goods (tobacco and alcohol) to pay for their games. And in case you need a refresher, they hosted the 1976 events. JamesYoung

2:22pm Wed 1 Aug 12

leo210856 says...

Sailing has never been a poular spector sport indeed from what has been said its just about the first Olympics where they seem to have attempted to draw significant supporters for this event.
Some people clearly got carried away in thinking it would bring increased visitors in truth the way in which the events are covered on TV may well lead to increased visitors in the future.
I am not sure the town is going to be saddled with any additional debt but dare I suggest that far from moaning locals should celebrate the money spent in and around the town. I am well aware that some of the improvements are not to everyones taste but try to imagine the state of things if the town had suffered another period of under investment and decay.
Sailing has never been a poular spector sport indeed from what has been said its just about the first Olympics where they seem to have attempted to draw significant supporters for this event. Some people clearly got carried away in thinking it would bring increased visitors in truth the way in which the events are covered on TV may well lead to increased visitors in the future. I am not sure the town is going to be saddled with any additional debt but dare I suggest that far from moaning locals should celebrate the money spent in and around the town. I am well aware that some of the improvements are not to everyones taste but try to imagine the state of things if the town had suffered another period of under investment and decay. leo210856

2:31pm Wed 1 Aug 12

ianplambert says...

jcrwey wrote:
ianplambert - the beach is FREE so no need to rip down the barriers on it!

Least the council are listening (admitingly finally for once!)
I didn't say the beach wasn't free, I said rip down the ticket barriers etc which includes the netting. It's outrageous that local people who already pay for the upkeep are barred from walking along the sea front and viewing whatever is going on. It looks like a fence, it stops people seeing so rip it down organisers and save a little face.
[quote][p][bold]jcrwey[/bold] wrote: ianplambert - the beach is FREE so no need to rip down the barriers on it! Least the council are listening (admitingly finally for once!)[/p][/quote]I didn't say the beach wasn't free, I said rip down the ticket barriers etc which includes the netting. It's outrageous that local people who already pay for the upkeep are barred from walking along the sea front and viewing whatever is going on. It looks like a fence, it stops people seeing so rip it down organisers and save a little face. ianplambert

2:34pm Wed 1 Aug 12

ianplambert says...

Duckorange wrote:
Poor, wrong ianplambert
wrong? I think to save face, they should open everything up with immediate effect. There are 70,000 people living here, they are not swarming the place because they can't afford to. Take down all the fences and make everything, everywhere free and open. Of course if you think it should stay as it is..........
[quote][p][bold]Duckorange[/bold] wrote: Poor, wrong ianplambert[/p][/quote]wrong? I think to save face, they should open everything up with immediate effect. There are 70,000 people living here, they are not swarming the place because they can't afford to. Take down all the fences and make everything, everywhere free and open. Of course if you think it should stay as it is.......... ianplambert

2:48pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Taxpayinglocal says...

leo210856 wrote:
Sailing has never been a poular spector sport indeed from what has been said its just about the first Olympics where they seem to have attempted to draw significant supporters for this event.
Some people clearly got carried away in thinking it would bring increased visitors in truth the way in which the events are covered on TV may well lead to increased visitors in the future.
I am not sure the town is going to be saddled with any additional debt but dare I suggest that far from moaning locals should celebrate the money spent in and around the town. I am well aware that some of the improvements are not to everyones taste but try to imagine the state of things if the town had suffered another period of under investment and decay.
are you blind sir, the council etc have made so much effort on the pretty lasers, and rocks on sticks, palm trees etcetc, that the town centre itself has been left to decay and rot, have you seen the state of it, for a start next time u are down St Marys street, look up!!! yes u will see bulbs from the 80's litereally with mould grown on them some smashed some even missing, hanging there begging to be killed. Thats just the start all the shops are rotting, the wood on some of them is disgusting and vial, Pillars, signs, floor pavings have all been left to rot and decay with not even a sign of a spray wahser over them, some people need to open thier eyes from those purdy laserz and rocks on sticks and look at reality and whats really happening to the locals and its businesses here in what ONCE WAS! a busy and lucrative place.
[quote][p][bold]leo210856[/bold] wrote: Sailing has never been a poular spector sport indeed from what has been said its just about the first Olympics where they seem to have attempted to draw significant supporters for this event. Some people clearly got carried away in thinking it would bring increased visitors in truth the way in which the events are covered on TV may well lead to increased visitors in the future. I am not sure the town is going to be saddled with any additional debt but dare I suggest that far from moaning locals should celebrate the money spent in and around the town. I am well aware that some of the improvements are not to everyones taste but try to imagine the state of things if the town had suffered another period of under investment and decay.[/p][/quote]are you blind sir, the council etc have made so much effort on the pretty lasers, and rocks on sticks, palm trees etcetc, that the town centre itself has been left to decay and rot, have you seen the state of it, for a start next time u are down St Marys street, look up!!! yes u will see bulbs from the 80's litereally with mould grown on them some smashed some even missing, hanging there begging to be killed. Thats just the start all the shops are rotting, the wood on some of them is disgusting and vial, Pillars, signs, floor pavings have all been left to rot and decay with not even a sign of a spray wahser over them, some people need to open thier eyes from those purdy laserz and rocks on sticks and look at reality and whats really happening to the locals and its businesses here in what ONCE WAS! a busy and lucrative place. Taxpayinglocal

3:00pm Wed 1 Aug 12

scubadude says...

chesilboy wrote:
"heads should roll", "total farce", "realise their error", "tear down the barriers", "money grabbing"...

I must live in a different town to most of you guys. All I can see is an honest attempt to welcome visitors to our town. The organisation looks slick and professional, and many things with the exception of the Nothe are FREE OF CHARGE. Even £10 for all day parking plus a return group bus journey is hardly off the scale is it?

The visitor numbers are obviously well down (hindsight occurs after an event), but at least we were prepared - we can't force people to come. The Olympics were happening whether we liked it or not. No-one has done anything to deliberately drive people away - quite the opposite.

So aside from sweeping generalisms, and feeling the need to blame someone, who has actually done anything wrong and what are the charges?
Sorry Chesil but EVERYONE asked before the games, infact before Weymouth & Portland was even chosen as a host venue was- no one will go see the sailing.... and guess what, we where right, sure a few chumps are sitting on the Nothe but 4000 isn't 60,000 by a long stretch. The organisers have made some good arrangements in town, I suspect if there where 60K people they'd be struggling but we'd have all said they did try.... fact is EVERYONE said and knew there would be very few visitors, many of us even told the organisers but they blindly refused to listen and plowed ahead using mythical figures for the planning and now have egg on their face. If they'd planned for the numbers who've actually come they'd have had to do very much less than they have- as such its been a waste of time and money. To answer your question- LOCOG have very clearly NOT researched the number likely to attend a sailing even, ignored all advice on the subject and in doing so have gone totally Over the Top... same can be said for all their planning in London too. Total class one, grade A morons the lot of them, Seb should throw himself into the flame and prevent his stupidity costing the nation any more!
[quote][p][bold]chesilboy[/bold] wrote: "heads should roll", "total farce", "realise their error", "tear down the barriers", "money grabbing"... I must live in a different town to most of you guys. All I can see is an honest attempt to welcome visitors to our town. The organisation looks slick and professional, and many things with the exception of the Nothe are FREE OF CHARGE. Even £10 for all day parking plus a return group bus journey is hardly off the scale is it? The visitor numbers are obviously well down (hindsight occurs after an event), but at least we were prepared - we can't force people to come. The Olympics were happening whether we liked it or not. No-one has done anything to deliberately drive people away - quite the opposite. So aside from sweeping generalisms, and feeling the need to blame someone, who has actually done anything wrong and what are the charges?[/p][/quote]Sorry Chesil but EVERYONE asked before the games, infact before Weymouth & Portland was even chosen as a host venue was- no one will go see the sailing.... and guess what, we where right, sure a few chumps are sitting on the Nothe but 4000 isn't 60,000 by a long stretch. The organisers have made some good arrangements in town, I suspect if there where 60K people they'd be struggling but we'd have all said they did try.... fact is EVERYONE said and knew there would be very few visitors, many of us even told the organisers but they blindly refused to listen and plowed ahead using mythical figures for the planning and now have egg on their face. If they'd planned for the numbers who've actually come they'd have had to do very much less than they have- as such its been a waste of time and money. To answer your question- LOCOG have very clearly NOT researched the number likely to attend a sailing even, ignored all advice on the subject and in doing so have gone totally Over the Top... same can be said for all their planning in London too. Total class one, grade A morons the lot of them, Seb should throw himself into the flame and prevent his stupidity costing the nation any more! scubadude

3:14pm Wed 1 Aug 12

chesilboy says...

scubadude wrote:
chesilboy wrote:
"heads should roll", "total farce", "realise their error", "tear down the barriers", "money grabbing"...

I must live in a different town to most of you guys. All I can see is an honest attempt to welcome visitors to our town. The organisation looks slick and professional, and many things with the exception of the Nothe are FREE OF CHARGE. Even £10 for all day parking plus a return group bus journey is hardly off the scale is it?

The visitor numbers are obviously well down (hindsight occurs after an event), but at least we were prepared - we can't force people to come. The Olympics were happening whether we liked it or not. No-one has done anything to deliberately drive people away - quite the opposite.

So aside from sweeping generalisms, and feeling the need to blame someone, who has actually done anything wrong and what are the charges?
Sorry Chesil but EVERYONE asked before the games, infact before Weymouth & Portland was even chosen as a host venue was- no one will go see the sailing.... and guess what, we where right, sure a few chumps are sitting on the Nothe but 4000 isn't 60,000 by a long stretch. The organisers have made some good arrangements in town, I suspect if there where 60K people they'd be struggling but we'd have all said they did try.... fact is EVERYONE said and knew there would be very few visitors, many of us even told the organisers but they blindly refused to listen and plowed ahead using mythical figures for the planning and now have egg on their face. If they'd planned for the numbers who've actually come they'd have had to do very much less than they have- as such its been a waste of time and money. To answer your question- LOCOG have very clearly NOT researched the number likely to attend a sailing even, ignored all advice on the subject and in doing so have gone totally Over the Top... same can be said for all their planning in London too. Total class one, grade A morons the lot of them, Seb should throw himself into the flame and prevent his stupidity costing the nation any more!
Fair enough, I accept the comments you and JamesYoung make without question.

What I didn't make clear in my post is I'm trying to defend Weymouth with the acknowledgement that the Olympics are here whether we like it or not.

I'm quite proud of what our little town has achieved, I don't see why LOCAL heads should roll, and I don't feel like I'm getting ripped off at every opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chesilboy[/bold] wrote: "heads should roll", "total farce", "realise their error", "tear down the barriers", "money grabbing"... I must live in a different town to most of you guys. All I can see is an honest attempt to welcome visitors to our town. The organisation looks slick and professional, and many things with the exception of the Nothe are FREE OF CHARGE. Even £10 for all day parking plus a return group bus journey is hardly off the scale is it? The visitor numbers are obviously well down (hindsight occurs after an event), but at least we were prepared - we can't force people to come. The Olympics were happening whether we liked it or not. No-one has done anything to deliberately drive people away - quite the opposite. So aside from sweeping generalisms, and feeling the need to blame someone, who has actually done anything wrong and what are the charges?[/p][/quote]Sorry Chesil but EVERYONE asked before the games, infact before Weymouth & Portland was even chosen as a host venue was- no one will go see the sailing.... and guess what, we where right, sure a few chumps are sitting on the Nothe but 4000 isn't 60,000 by a long stretch. The organisers have made some good arrangements in town, I suspect if there where 60K people they'd be struggling but we'd have all said they did try.... fact is EVERYONE said and knew there would be very few visitors, many of us even told the organisers but they blindly refused to listen and plowed ahead using mythical figures for the planning and now have egg on their face. If they'd planned for the numbers who've actually come they'd have had to do very much less than they have- as such its been a waste of time and money. To answer your question- LOCOG have very clearly NOT researched the number likely to attend a sailing even, ignored all advice on the subject and in doing so have gone totally Over the Top... same can be said for all their planning in London too. Total class one, grade A morons the lot of them, Seb should throw himself into the flame and prevent his stupidity costing the nation any more![/p][/quote]Fair enough, I accept the comments you and JamesYoung make without question. What I didn't make clear in my post is I'm trying to defend Weymouth with the acknowledgement that the Olympics are here whether we like it or not. I'm quite proud of what our little town has achieved, I don't see why LOCAL heads should roll, and I don't feel like I'm getting ripped off at every opportunity. chesilboy

3:36pm Wed 1 Aug 12

SILVERMAN says...

annotator1 wrote:
Why so long to realise their error?
Too late, the trade in the town is dead. Signs on most motorways and main roads telling drivers not to come to Weymouth due to the congestion. The congestion, what little there is of it, is caused by road closures that are totally unnecessary. Close the Esplanade if you desire for safety reasons but not the rest! No holiday makers, poor Guest House/Hotel bookings. Shops are going to the wall with poor sales, all because of the 'games' and bad management.
I will be putting up CLOSING DOWN SALE on my shop window before the end of the week.
[quote][p][bold]annotator1[/bold] wrote: Why so long to realise their error? Too late, the trade in the town is dead. Signs on most motorways and main roads telling drivers not to come to Weymouth due to the congestion. The congestion, what little there is of it, is caused by road closures that are totally unnecessary. Close the Esplanade if you desire for safety reasons but not the rest! No holiday makers, poor Guest House/Hotel bookings. Shops are going to the wall with poor sales, all because of the 'games' and bad management.[/p][/quote]I will be putting up CLOSING DOWN SALE on my shop window before the end of the week. SILVERMAN

3:47pm Wed 1 Aug 12

SILVERMAN says...

maximan wrote:
The amount of vehicles in the park and ride is around the same amount as car parking spaces in the Swannery car park....ironic that
I love the idea of FREE PARKING at Monkeys Jump. I can just picture it now.Wyke resident drives to Monkeys Jump, gets on a free nice shiny bus which brings him / her, well, sort of close to his / her shops. Having done that easily because the shops are empty, he /she struggles back to The Swannery car park to board a nice new shiny bus for a ride back to Monkeys Jump. Then drives back to Wyke. now that would only happen in a comedy sketch, surely.
I have a better idea. Just open the town centre car parks..job done
[quote][p][bold]maximan[/bold] wrote: The amount of vehicles in the park and ride is around the same amount as car parking spaces in the Swannery car park....ironic that[/p][/quote]I love the idea of FREE PARKING at Monkeys Jump. I can just picture it now.Wyke resident drives to Monkeys Jump, gets on a free nice shiny bus which brings him / her, well, sort of close to his / her shops. Having done that easily because the shops are empty, he /she struggles back to The Swannery car park to board a nice new shiny bus for a ride back to Monkeys Jump. Then drives back to Wyke. now that would only happen in a comedy sketch, surely. I have a better idea. Just open the town centre car parks..job done SILVERMAN

3:59pm Wed 1 Aug 12

roger goss says...

WPBC,what a load of duffers, the hotels and holiday sites are far more important than the olympics, are the chumps in the white house to thick to realise that, your town survives on tourism the sailing is a distraction from that, Im so glad to be away from your short sightedness, would tossers be a good name for the council?
WPBC,what a load of duffers, the hotels and holiday sites are far more important than the olympics, are the chumps in the white house to thick to realise that, your town survives on tourism the sailing is a distraction from that, Im so glad to be away from your short sightedness, would tossers be a good name for the council? roger goss

4:05pm Wed 1 Aug 12

donearunner says...

At a time when we can all least afford it, the financial well being of the majority in the borough has been compromised by a minority of fools in power who have compromised an entire season by allowing a single event to dominate out of all proportion to the income it will generate.

Weymouth & Portland's resources were sold to LOCOG several years ago, the "Games" were always going to happen, regardless of the consequences.

The situation in London, in areas dependant on conventional tourism is exactly the same.
At a time when we can all least afford it, the financial well being of the majority in the borough has been compromised by a minority of fools in power who have compromised an entire season by allowing a single event to dominate out of all proportion to the income it will generate. Weymouth & Portland's resources were sold to LOCOG several years ago, the "Games" were always going to happen, regardless of the consequences. The situation in London, in areas dependant on conventional tourism is exactly the same. donearunner

4:40pm Wed 1 Aug 12

davecook says...

The problem with parking was that nobody knew what mode of transport people were going to use. The organisers didn't think to do the obvious and ask people when buying tickets how they intended to travel, thus being able to plan properly in advance. You had the railways saying use the roads, you has the council saying use the railways, and everybody just took one look and decided to sit at home and watch coverage on television (coverage which has been rubbish, switching channels mid event, commentators not knowing who the competitors and getting them all mixed up), and the debacle over restrictions on what you can take into the official sites, it's no wonder that the place is empty. I counted 20 buses yesterday with a total of 20 people on them,, average one per bus, as they were shuttling back and forth all day during the event. The fuel wasted would run my central heating for a decade, but don't worry, these are the greenest games yet...........
The problem with parking was that nobody knew what mode of transport people were going to use. The organisers didn't think to do the obvious and ask people when buying tickets how they intended to travel, thus being able to plan properly in advance. You had the railways saying use the roads, you has the council saying use the railways, and everybody just took one look and decided to sit at home and watch coverage on television (coverage which has been rubbish, switching channels mid event, commentators not knowing who the competitors and getting them all mixed up), and the debacle over restrictions on what you can take into the official sites, it's no wonder that the place is empty. I counted 20 buses yesterday with a total of 20 people on them,, average one per bus, as they were shuttling back and forth all day during the event. The fuel wasted would run my central heating for a decade, but don't worry, these are the greenest games yet........... davecook

4:51pm Wed 1 Aug 12

bradley red 1 says...

Well i know for a fact that frequent visitors to the weymouth area have stayed away this year,slashing bus fares will make no difference,obvious to me there is no real interest in sailing in the olympics!,also agree that weymouth town centre leaves alot to be desired,very run down no investment is key to how the centre of town looks right now,more and more people ordering online,me included we are a family of five and the majority of things we buy comes delivered from the vast choice of quality on the various retail sites online.
Well i know for a fact that frequent visitors to the weymouth area have stayed away this year,slashing bus fares will make no difference,obvious to me there is no real interest in sailing in the olympics!,also agree that weymouth town centre leaves alot to be desired,very run down no investment is key to how the centre of town looks right now,more and more people ordering online,me included we are a family of five and the majority of things we buy comes delivered from the vast choice of quality on the various retail sites online. bradley red 1

4:59pm Wed 1 Aug 12

michael-giant says...

basically its quite simple.
today the olympics are about making money.
ticket prices.
franchise food prices.
travel prices.
all based on the dictatorial conditions set for applying for the Games plus local areas, councils and others wishing to make a quick profit.
basically its quite simple. today the olympics are about making money. ticket prices. franchise food prices. travel prices. all based on the dictatorial conditions set for applying for the Games plus local areas, councils and others wishing to make a quick profit. michael-giant

5:23pm Wed 1 Aug 12

dan'not'there says...

Must not forget that this is the FIRST TIME IN MODERN OLYMPICS that that Sailing is a fee paying event !

Add that to the many other factors mentioned above to arrive at the conclusion there was never going to be a mad rush to pay to see a sport that you need a 'computerised graphics plan on a screen' to understand what's happening on the various courses.

I agree- Weymouth- you should cut your losses and open up the town - at least your friends in Dorchester and other local districts would be able to respond immediatley and support 'the best Dorset sea-side resort' (Good enough for a King after all !!!!!)
Must not forget that this is the FIRST TIME IN MODERN OLYMPICS that that Sailing is a fee paying event ! Add that to the many other factors mentioned above to arrive at the conclusion there was never going to be a mad rush to pay to see a sport that you need a 'computerised graphics plan on a screen' to understand what's happening on the various courses. I agree- Weymouth- you should cut your losses and open up the town - at least your friends in Dorchester and other local districts would be able to respond immediatley and support 'the best Dorset sea-side resort' (Good enough for a King after all !!!!!) dan'not'there

6:09pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Verbose says...

I thought LOCOG had set the prices for Park & Ride. In which case their greed has come back and bitten them in the backside.
I thought LOCOG had set the prices for Park & Ride. In which case their greed has come back and bitten them in the backside. Verbose

6:23pm Wed 1 Aug 12

portlandresident says...

Access to the beach, also known as the 'Live Site', is 100% Free! A great place to soak up the atmosphere during medal race time. There's also a good selection of other places to park besides.

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Don't forget Lodmoor park and stride, then there's also the Multi Storey just moments away from the beach. You can even check parking spaces in real time before you set out, look - http://www.dorsetfor
you.com/sailing2012/
car-parks

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The turnstiles on the beach are just there to count the number of people coming in. That's all. As a local resident, I can see no better time to visit Weymouth. There's so much going on, and the Jurassic Airlines flight simulator is amazing!

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More details about the games and other free events can also be found here - http://www.dorsetfor
you.com/sailing2012

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I'm proud of where I live, and hope we can still get people to visit our beautiful resort. If only for the local economy.
Access to the beach, also known as the 'Live Site', is 100% Free! A great place to soak up the atmosphere during medal race time. There's also a good selection of other places to park besides. - Don't forget Lodmoor park and stride, then there's also the Multi Storey just moments away from the beach. You can even check parking spaces in real time before you set out, look - http://www.dorsetfor you.com/sailing2012/ car-parks - The turnstiles on the beach are just there to count the number of people coming in. That's all. As a local resident, I can see no better time to visit Weymouth. There's so much going on, and the Jurassic Airlines flight simulator is amazing! - More details about the games and other free events can also be found here - http://www.dorsetfor you.com/sailing2012 - I'm proud of where I live, and hope we can still get people to visit our beautiful resort. If only for the local economy. portlandresident

6:26pm Wed 1 Aug 12

bradley red 1 says...

Verbose wrote:
I thought LOCOG had set the prices for Park & Ride. In which case their greed has come back and bitten them in the backside.
CORRECT! AS YOU SAY ALL ABOUT GREED,GREED,GREED!!! DESERVE THE NO SHOW IN MY OPINION.
[quote][p][bold]Verbose[/bold] wrote: I thought LOCOG had set the prices for Park & Ride. In which case their greed has come back and bitten them in the backside.[/p][/quote]CORRECT! AS YOU SAY ALL ABOUT GREED,GREED,GREED!!! DESERVE THE NO SHOW IN MY OPINION. bradley red 1

6:45pm Wed 1 Aug 12

iampuzzled says...

portlandresident says 'As a local resident, I can see no better time to visit Weymouth.'
How do you find your way through the security checks on the Beach Road with those rose-tinted specs on (:o))
I do hope that you got paid your fee for this advert.
portlandresident says 'As a local resident, I can see no better time to visit Weymouth.' How do you find your way through the security checks on the Beach Road with those rose-tinted specs on (:o)) I do hope that you got paid your fee for this advert. iampuzzled

6:54pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Oldgrumblebelly says...

When the various bodies get together for their project closure meeting post-Olympics, wouldn't it be interesting to read their Final Report? Would it actually show not just the planning successes (!), but which bits maybe didn't go quite so well, which decisions were made based on incorrect or insufficient factual information, and what lessons were learned and recorded for future reference. What has W&P Council learned from this if Weymouth is lucky enough to ever attract another large event in the future? Maybe discussions with all local businesses concerned prior to any event might be a start, rather than just guesswork and assumptions ( 60,000 visitors a day? How was that number arrived at? Whose finger in the air was that?), and god forbid, consulting all concerned locally early enough might even bring to light real risks and provide some real solutions. Probably nothing will be learned, and similar mistakes will be made if there ever was a next time, with people in the same position of power making the same arrogant guesses. We can, however, at least be thankful that Lord Coe will probably be given a knighthood to go with his peerage. Well that's all good, then.
When the various bodies get together for their project closure meeting post-Olympics, wouldn't it be interesting to read their Final Report? Would it actually show not just the planning successes (!), but which bits maybe didn't go quite so well, which decisions were made based on incorrect or insufficient factual information, and what lessons were learned and recorded for future reference. What has W&P Council learned from this if Weymouth is lucky enough to ever attract another large event in the future? Maybe discussions with all local businesses concerned prior to any event might be a start, rather than just guesswork and assumptions ( 60,000 visitors a day? How was that number arrived at? Whose finger in the air was that?), and god forbid, consulting all concerned locally early enough might even bring to light real risks and provide some real solutions. Probably nothing will be learned, and similar mistakes will be made if there ever was a next time, with people in the same position of power making the same arrogant guesses. We can, however, at least be thankful that Lord Coe will probably be given a knighthood to go with his peerage. Well that's all good, then. Oldgrumblebelly

6:59pm Wed 1 Aug 12

stanichardie says...

The 'Free' Live sports arena has been a great success. Well done to the organisers for that. It has been suggested that is brought back for the carnival each year.

Unfortuntaley the Bayside seems to be overpriced. We have bought tickets for an event and then tickets are given away free outside.

As a local I will just try to enjoy these events. It is hard to please everyone but we do have more than our share of professional moaners around!
The 'Free' Live sports arena has been a great success. Well done to the organisers for that. It has been suggested that is brought back for the carnival each year. Unfortuntaley the Bayside seems to be overpriced. We have bought tickets for an event and then tickets are given away free outside. As a local I will just try to enjoy these events. It is hard to please everyone but we do have more than our share of professional moaners around! stanichardie

7:45pm Wed 1 Aug 12

pd7 says...

I have said many times in these forums a world class event treated like a school sports day .

The PR for the event has been useless .
I really feel for the traders ( real ones ) and smiling at all the ones that are in it for a quick money.

The crowds and visitors will not happen it is to late for them to plan or visit .

But a least we got one real mess of a roundabout at canford bottom and a relief road to nowhere .

If those who planned it listened it could have been so much better .

Be honest the old carnival pulled more people .

And what will be the outcome

next project for me to wreck please

ok
I have said many times in these forums a world class event treated like a school sports day . The PR for the event has been useless . I really feel for the traders ( real ones ) and smiling at all the ones that are in it for a quick money. The crowds and visitors will not happen it is to late for them to plan or visit . But a least we got one real mess of a roundabout at canford bottom and a relief road to nowhere . If those who planned it listened it could have been so much better . Be honest the old carnival pulled more people . And what will be the outcome next project for me to wreck please ok pd7

7:50pm Wed 1 Aug 12

John New says...

Sorry this is long.

As someone who was involved with the local authority planning for this in the very early stages before I retired it is totally unfair to be blaming any of the local authorities and other agencies. There is one FACT that influenced everything else from day one and that is that at those early stages meetings local scepticism about prospective visitor numbers was put down by non-local imported experts who stated that sailing had been a very popular spectator sport at other venues and yes we would get very large crowds..

Hindsight shows the locally based staff members at those multi-agency meetings were right the so called advisors were wrong - what was planned for was what was forecast and it those numbers had turned up the organisation that has resulted is about right.

Local systems planning for massive crowds have been well executed; you can't blame planners for supplying a solution to the missing crowds. .

The crucial question to be asked at the post-event wash-up meetings is why the external advisors have got these spectator forecasts so wrong here and also at some of the London sites too. Those numpties do need to be named and shamed for they have wasted millions of pounds. Extremely glad we got the new relief road but it was a multi-million pound answer to crowds who didn't appear.
Sorry this is long. As someone who was involved with the local authority planning for this in the very early stages before I retired it is totally unfair to be blaming any of the local authorities and other agencies. There is one FACT that influenced everything else from day one and that is that at those early stages meetings local scepticism about prospective visitor numbers was put down by non-local imported experts who stated that sailing had been a very popular spectator sport at other venues and yes we would get very large crowds.. Hindsight shows the locally based staff members at those multi-agency meetings were right the so called advisors were wrong - what was planned for was what was forecast and it those numbers had turned up the organisation that has resulted is about right. Local systems planning for massive crowds have been well executed; you can't blame planners for supplying a solution to the missing crowds. . The crucial question to be asked at the post-event wash-up meetings is why the external advisors have got these spectator forecasts so wrong here and also at some of the London sites too. Those numpties do need to be named and shamed for they have wasted millions of pounds. Extremely glad we got the new relief road but it was a multi-million pound answer to crowds who didn't appear. John New

8:05pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Bazzer55 says...

It must be nearly a year ago that I commented on here that this sailing event was not a spectator sport, also that all the money spent was money wasted,and when it was said that the Olympics would bring new found wealth to businesses in the area due to the influx of 60,000 visitors, I totally disagreed. When I disagreed certain people here said that "I should move with the times" and not be a "doom and gloom merchant"

Well a question to those (you know who you are)

Where is your new wealth and all your visitors that are making a beeline to your run down town ?
It must be nearly a year ago that I commented on here that this sailing event was not a spectator sport, also that all the money spent was money wasted,and when it was said that the Olympics would bring new found wealth to businesses in the area due to the influx of 60,000 visitors, I totally disagreed. When I disagreed certain people here said that "I should move with the times" and not be a "doom and gloom merchant" Well a question to those (you know who you are) Where is your new wealth and all your visitors that are making a beeline to your run down town ? Bazzer55

8:06pm Wed 1 Aug 12

pd7 says...

Maybe the planning was OK

It is the PR and promotion of Dorset that failed .

Very few people are going to come to see a few boats bobbing about .

Dorset should have put a total PR package in place . The people they wanted to come have not even heard of Dorset and could not justify the cost to get here .

Ever seen the numbers Cowes week IOW quick search shows 100K

And its next week
Maybe the planning was OK It is the PR and promotion of Dorset that failed . Very few people are going to come to see a few boats bobbing about . Dorset should have put a total PR package in place . The people they wanted to come have not even heard of Dorset and could not justify the cost to get here . Ever seen the numbers Cowes week IOW quick search shows 100K And its next week pd7

9:08pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Mrs Grumps says...

Having just been to a family funeral one way, we ignorantly choosing to return via the A31 - a great mistake! Can anyone tell me why there is a huge section of that road closed around Wimborne until 11th August? People were turning round and going back. Anyone coming to Weymouth along that route would do the same if they got that far and didn't have to continue. We had to get home.

We got held up for ages, at least three times between Ringwood and Wimborne along that road, including the extremely inefficient and clearly dangerous new Canford Bottom junction - and I wonder who designed that disaster? This is madness at a time when we want people to be able to move around the county freely.

Combined with all the other mistakes mentioned on this forum Weymouth didn't stand a chance to bring in the many thousands it was expecting.
Having just been to a family funeral one way, we ignorantly choosing to return via the A31 - a great mistake! Can anyone tell me why there is a huge section of that road closed around Wimborne until 11th August? People were turning round and going back. Anyone coming to Weymouth along that route would do the same if they got that far and didn't have to continue. We had to get home. We got held up for ages, at least three times between Ringwood and Wimborne along that road, including the extremely inefficient and clearly dangerous new Canford Bottom junction - and I wonder who designed that disaster? This is madness at a time when we want people to be able to move around the county freely. Combined with all the other mistakes mentioned on this forum Weymouth didn't stand a chance to bring in the many thousands it was expecting. Mrs Grumps

9:09pm Wed 1 Aug 12

kmilla says...

Angus Campbell says 'we are doing what we can to encourage people to come to the town'. A bit late, Cllr Campbell; you and your DCC officers seem to have got it all wrong. The main message from your PR team via their tame media outlet has been one of doom, of avoiding the area, of traffic gridlock. So the locals are keeping away, possibly because we don't earn enough to fund a visit!. But despite all the council time (funded by us) spent in their empire building talking shops, and all the money (ours again) spent on useless but expensive preparatory road-works, you've failed to entice visitors to our beautiful area to view this once in a lifetime spectacle, and spend their money here to pay we locals back for what you've wasted! Crumbs, if your team cant sell this to the tourists, what can they sell? Cllr Campbell, yours is the face of the Olympics, and sorry to say I see a large smear of egg!
Angus Campbell says 'we are doing what we can to encourage people to come to the town'. A bit late, Cllr Campbell; you and your DCC officers seem to have got it all wrong. The main message from your PR team via their tame media outlet has been one of doom, of avoiding the area, of traffic gridlock. So the locals are keeping away, possibly because we don't earn enough to fund a visit!. But despite all the council time (funded by us) spent in their empire building talking shops, and all the money (ours again) spent on useless but expensive preparatory road-works, you've failed to entice visitors to our beautiful area to view this once in a lifetime spectacle, and spend their money here to pay we locals back for what you've wasted! Crumbs, if your team cant sell this to the tourists, what can they sell? Cllr Campbell, yours is the face of the Olympics, and sorry to say I see a large smear of egg! kmilla

9:33pm Wed 1 Aug 12

Desk24 says...

Town is down min 40% on previous years. Time for reporter hat and camera.
Town is down min 40% on previous years. Time for reporter hat and camera. Desk24

9:54pm Wed 1 Aug 12

John New says...

Re publicity. Again don't blame local agencies when LOCOG or similar have banned any mention of the event. If as an example if a local b&b had mentioned the O******s they would have been done if the scare stories are true. Basically London & the IoC have stuffed up but it is blameless local agencies getting the flak. Mistakes have been made yes but at least throw the brickbats at the right targets.
Re publicity. Again don't blame local agencies when LOCOG or similar have banned any mention of the event. If as an example if a local b&b had mentioned the O******s they would have been done if the scare stories are true. Basically London & the IoC have stuffed up but it is blameless local agencies getting the flak. Mistakes have been made yes but at least throw the brickbats at the right targets. John New

10:00pm Wed 1 Aug 12

thetiger says...

@ John New

You state that you were "involved with the local authority planning for this in the very early stages", and in the same breath state "it is totally unfair to be blaming any of the local authorities and other agencies".
You further state that "prospective visitor numbers was put down by non-local imported experts".

If these non local 'experts' were wrong (and it seems you agree on this point), why on earth did the council go along with the plan?

These 'experts' were called in as advisors (the clue is in the word 'advisors'), the buck stops with the council, not the 'advisors'.
@ John New You state that you were "involved with the local authority planning for this in the very early stages", and in the same breath state "it is totally unfair to be blaming any of the local authorities and other agencies". You further state that "prospective visitor numbers was put down by non-local imported experts". If these non local 'experts' were wrong (and it seems you agree on this point), why on earth did the council go along with the plan? These 'experts' were called in as advisors (the clue is in the word 'advisors'), the buck stops with the council, not the 'advisors'. thetiger

10:50pm Wed 1 Aug 12

John New says...

Point worth answering. I retired 5 years ago and at that time was a middle level cog in the pre-event planning machine but many outline policy parameters were already set by that point At my level and below if the senior ranking acknowledged experts on the event tell you to plan for a very large influx of visitors you assume they know what they are talking about and begin to plan systems to resolve the problem you have been given. What has to be asked is did previous Olympic regattas actually draw the crowds we were told to plan for? If no then who was responsible in the UK Olympic movement for saying there would be such crowds (Cowes week?) and if yes such crowds do exist elsewhere then wtf was the publicity side of the event so bungled by the ODA we haven't had them.

The main truth though is that it is unfair to blame locally based organisations for planning ahead for crowds they were assured would come by the nationally acknowledged experts and for not doing local publicity campaigns they were effectively banned from doing by the same national bodies. Yes there is blame to allocate but very little of it (apart from the details of the traffic light design) falls to either DCC WPBC or Dorset police .
Point worth answering. I retired 5 years ago and at that time was a middle level cog in the pre-event planning machine but many outline policy parameters were already set by that point At my level and below if the senior ranking acknowledged experts on the event tell you to plan for a very large influx of visitors you assume they know what they are talking about and begin to plan systems to resolve the problem you have been given. What has to be asked is did previous Olympic regattas actually draw the crowds we were told to plan for? If no then who was responsible in the UK Olympic movement for saying there would be such crowds (Cowes week?) and if yes such crowds do exist elsewhere then wtf was the publicity side of the event so bungled by the ODA we haven't had them. The main truth though is that it is unfair to blame locally based organisations for planning ahead for crowds they were assured would come by the nationally acknowledged experts and for not doing local publicity campaigns they were effectively banned from doing by the same national bodies. Yes there is blame to allocate but very little of it (apart from the details of the traffic light design) falls to either DCC WPBC or Dorset police . John New

12:13am Thu 2 Aug 12

PasirP says...

portlandresident wrote:
Access to the beach, also known as the 'Live Site', is 100% Free! A great place to soak up the atmosphere during medal race time. There's also a good selection of other places to park besides.

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Don't forget Lodmoor park and stride, then there's also the Multi Storey just moments away from the beach. You can even check parking spaces in real time before you set out, look - http://www.dorsetfor

you.com/sailing2012/

car-parks

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The turnstiles on the beach are just there to count the number of people coming in. That's all. As a local resident, I can see no better time to visit Weymouth. There's so much going on, and the Jurassic Airlines flight simulator is amazing!

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More details about the games and other free events can also be found here - http://www.dorsetfor

you.com/sailing2012

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I'm proud of where I live, and hope we can still get people to visit our beautiful resort. If only for the local economy.
I am also proud of Weymouth and love what it has to offer, even some of the road improvements! Unfortunately my initial delight at having the Olympics on my doorstep has gradually been eroded by inept research and disrespect for the locals who keep the town going through the winter months. Today I had to 'nip' into town, headed off early to avoid the traffic restrictions along the seafront, parked in the multi storey car park as usual, spent my money in the town helping to keep the local economy afloat and headed back to my car 1 hour 11 minutes later to find it had cost me £4 to park, double what it cost me a week ago. I want Weymouth to grow as an international venue for visitors but the local government have gone about it in such a misguided way. I strongly feel someone needs to stand tall and apologise for getting it wrong.....that and reduce the obscene parking fee. Come on Weymouth pull it out the bag and look after the people who will be here long after the Olympics has gone.
[quote][p][bold]portlandresident[/bold] wrote: Access to the beach, also known as the 'Live Site', is 100% Free! A great place to soak up the atmosphere during medal race time. There's also a good selection of other places to park besides. - Don't forget Lodmoor park and stride, then there's also the Multi Storey just moments away from the beach. You can even check parking spaces in real time before you set out, look - http://www.dorsetfor you.com/sailing2012/ car-parks - The turnstiles on the beach are just there to count the number of people coming in. That's all. As a local resident, I can see no better time to visit Weymouth. There's so much going on, and the Jurassic Airlines flight simulator is amazing! - More details about the games and other free events can also be found here - http://www.dorsetfor you.com/sailing2012 - I'm proud of where I live, and hope we can still get people to visit our beautiful resort. If only for the local economy.[/p][/quote]I am also proud of Weymouth and love what it has to offer, even some of the road improvements! Unfortunately my initial delight at having the Olympics on my doorstep has gradually been eroded by inept research and disrespect for the locals who keep the town going through the winter months. Today I had to 'nip' into town, headed off early to avoid the traffic restrictions along the seafront, parked in the multi storey car park as usual, spent my money in the town helping to keep the local economy afloat and headed back to my car 1 hour 11 minutes later to find it had cost me £4 to park, double what it cost me a week ago. I want Weymouth to grow as an international venue for visitors but the local government have gone about it in such a misguided way. I strongly feel someone needs to stand tall and apologise for getting it wrong.....that and reduce the obscene parking fee. Come on Weymouth pull it out the bag and look after the people who will be here long after the Olympics has gone. PasirP

4:37am Thu 2 Aug 12

EtaoinShrdlu says...

Olypics is a moneygrubbing event invented by General Franco's mate the late unlamented Samaranche, backhanders and brown envelppes everywhere. It could have stopped when the little fascist swine croaked but no such luck. So put up or shutup.
Olypics is a moneygrubbing event invented by General Franco's mate the late unlamented Samaranche, backhanders and brown envelppes everywhere. It could have stopped when the little fascist swine croaked but no such luck. So put up or shutup. EtaoinShrdlu

7:49am Thu 2 Aug 12

nigeld says...

So now this "Green" olympics the Joint 2012 comittee referred to on the first day becomes even greener, As well as the empty Olympic Purple double deckers going from Bowleaze (and other places) to Portland we will have people driving their cars from weymouth to Monkeys jump to avoid paying the 10 pounds weymouth park and ride charge, well thought through. Lets hope when the people of Weymouth and Portland receive their increased council tax bills next year to pay for all this and the hundreds of council workers standing around all day with nothing to do these idiots all get kicked out. Thier days are well and truly numberred.
So now this "Green" olympics the Joint 2012 comittee referred to on the first day becomes even greener, As well as the empty Olympic Purple double deckers going from Bowleaze (and other places) to Portland we will have people driving their cars from weymouth to Monkeys jump to avoid paying the 10 pounds weymouth park and ride charge, well thought through. Lets hope when the people of Weymouth and Portland receive their increased council tax bills next year to pay for all this and the hundreds of council workers standing around all day with nothing to do these idiots all get kicked out. Thier days are well and truly numberred. nigeld

8:32am Thu 2 Aug 12

niceonecyril says...

Wow 60 comments, didn't realise the whingers society had the brains to create multiple accounts to make them look good, but no matter because the fantastic Olympics have proven you all wrong, £10 to park, which entitles you to some fantastic events, a bargain, the town looks fantastic, driving around, fantastic, no cars on the esplanade (just to go around the statue and come back again), fantastic. Well done Weymouth and Portland for making it a massive success and making our town look quality all over the World
Wow 60 comments, didn't realise the whingers society had the brains to create multiple accounts to make them look good, but no matter because the fantastic Olympics have proven you all wrong, £10 to park, which entitles you to some fantastic events, a bargain, the town looks fantastic, driving around, fantastic, no cars on the esplanade (just to go around the statue and come back again), fantastic. Well done Weymouth and Portland for making it a massive success and making our town look quality all over the World niceonecyril

8:43am Thu 2 Aug 12

wessex-andy says...

I think that WPBC are getting too much flak over the event. They haven't really had much say in the matter, as most of the planning was done elsewhere by Lord Coe and his cronies, who issued instructions rather than requests. Our council has done well with the scraps that were left to them.

People haven't come to the town because of predicted travel chaos and predicted high prices being charged for accommodation and services. Many regular visitors have stayed away mainly because they didn't want to be pushed about by the predicted influx of Olympic enthusiasts and some local people have removed themselves from the town for the duration.

Over the last couple of years I have been very sceptical about the predicted number of people who would be coming to our town to see something that is not a spectator friendly sport. Because visitors using the park and ride system planned for the event had to book in advance, the organisers should have known with absolute certainty that it wasn't going to happen at least a couple of weeks ago.

Rather than make unhelpful comments at this stage of the game, why not make the effort to get into town and enjoy the facilities on offer. It's quieter than usual, so this is a good time to take advantage of what is on offer for FREE. Usually, I do most of my shopping in Dorchester and avoid Weymouth as much as possible at this time of year, but so far this week I have cycled (another unusual event for me) into town twice, parked my bike in a manned secure parking area by the Bandstand for FREE and spent a few hours enjoying everything that is going on. I will never be a sports enthusiast, but there are lots of other things going on.
I think that WPBC are getting too much flak over the event. They haven't really had much say in the matter, as most of the planning was done elsewhere by Lord Coe and his cronies, who issued instructions rather than requests. Our council has done well with the scraps that were left to them. People haven't come to the town because of predicted travel chaos and predicted high prices being charged for accommodation and services. Many regular visitors have stayed away mainly because they didn't want to be pushed about by the predicted influx of Olympic enthusiasts and some local people have removed themselves from the town for the duration. Over the last couple of years I have been very sceptical about the predicted number of people who would be coming to our town to see something that is not a spectator friendly sport. Because visitors using the park and ride system planned for the event had to book in advance, the organisers should have known with absolute certainty that it wasn't going to happen at least a couple of weeks ago. Rather than make unhelpful comments at this stage of the game, why not make the effort to get into town and enjoy the facilities on offer. It's quieter than usual, so this is a good time to take advantage of what is on offer for FREE. Usually, I do most of my shopping in Dorchester and avoid Weymouth as much as possible at this time of year, but so far this week I have cycled (another unusual event for me) into town twice, parked my bike in a manned secure parking area by the Bandstand for FREE and spent a few hours enjoying everything that is going on. I will never be a sports enthusiast, but there are lots of other things going on. wessex-andy

8:50am Thu 2 Aug 12

cj07589 says...

nigeld wrote:
So now this "Green" olympics the Joint 2012 comittee referred to on the first day becomes even greener, As well as the empty Olympic Purple double deckers going from Bowleaze (and other places) to Portland we will have people driving their cars from weymouth to Monkeys jump to avoid paying the 10 pounds weymouth park and ride charge, well thought through. Lets hope when the people of Weymouth and Portland receive their increased council tax bills next year to pay for all this and the hundreds of council workers standing around all day with nothing to do these idiots all get kicked out. Thier days are well and truly numberred.
So 60 people's opinion versus your version. Thanks but I stick to the consenus and the stats dont lie, looking forward to this sporting fiascos conclusion. Id rather had the money spent on investing in our children's future like building new schools, teachers etc.in oppose to saddling them in debt for decades.
[quote][p][bold]nigeld[/bold] wrote: So now this "Green" olympics the Joint 2012 comittee referred to on the first day becomes even greener, As well as the empty Olympic Purple double deckers going from Bowleaze (and other places) to Portland we will have people driving their cars from weymouth to Monkeys jump to avoid paying the 10 pounds weymouth park and ride charge, well thought through. Lets hope when the people of Weymouth and Portland receive their increased council tax bills next year to pay for all this and the hundreds of council workers standing around all day with nothing to do these idiots all get kicked out. Thier days are well and truly numberred.[/p][/quote]So 60 people's opinion versus your version. Thanks but I stick to the consenus and the stats dont lie, looking forward to this sporting fiascos conclusion. Id rather had the money spent on investing in our children's future like building new schools, teachers etc.in oppose to saddling them in debt for decades. cj07589

8:56am Thu 2 Aug 12

jmc1 says...

Whats the other lots of things going on and why are some of the park and ride free only for 2 days
Whats the other lots of things going on and why are some of the park and ride free only for 2 days jmc1

9:24am Thu 2 Aug 12

portlandboy says...

Shame that the "free park & ride" initiative happens to coincide with a forecast of showers or heavy rain. The 1,000's of extra visitors may just be put off of parking in a muddy field and sitting on a sandy beach while it's p*ss*ng down.
Still I don't suppose the council can be expected to look at a long range weather forecast - that would be classed as forward planning.
Shame that the "free park & ride" initiative happens to coincide with a forecast of showers or heavy rain. The 1,000's of extra visitors may just be put off of parking in a muddy field and sitting on a sandy beach while it's p*ss*ng down. Still I don't suppose the council can be expected to look at a long range weather forecast - that would be classed as forward planning. portlandboy

9:25am Thu 2 Aug 12

bollywood says...

The sailing has been brilliant whether watched live or on TV. The Sailing Academy is capable of running and organising world class events without the intervention of the local council which has been Weymouth's downfall.
It is the council who has agreed to all the road closures, the farce that is the blue screening and the overpriced Bayside festival. All of this could have been done at Lodmoor with no detriment to the town. John New is now trying to put the blame on 'advisors' but it is the council who have made the decisions and not listened. Prior to the Olympics Weymouth had a couple of weeks of brilliant sunshine but the holidaymakers were forced to sit at the stony end of the beach, I am afraid to say the council are solely to blame for the mess that Weymouth is in. Get the roads open and free up the car parks NOW.
The sailing has been brilliant whether watched live or on TV. The Sailing Academy is capable of running and organising world class events without the intervention of the local council which has been Weymouth's downfall. It is the council who has agreed to all the road closures, the farce that is the blue screening and the overpriced Bayside festival. All of this could have been done at Lodmoor with no detriment to the town. John New is now trying to put the blame on 'advisors' but it is the council who have made the decisions and not listened. Prior to the Olympics Weymouth had a couple of weeks of brilliant sunshine but the holidaymakers were forced to sit at the stony end of the beach, I am afraid to say the council are solely to blame for the mess that Weymouth is in. Get the roads open and free up the car parks NOW. bollywood

10:09am Thu 2 Aug 12

acynic says...

I just had to pop in a comment to this well-attended forum (although I'm probably too far down the list for it to be read!).
It seems that our Olympic efforts have been good for everyone in some way or another. Lots of fantastic, worldwide coverage for our beautiful town and surrounding area (who from the many countries in the world hasn't heard of Weymouth and Portland now!?) and a very exciting time for all the cynics, moaners and groaners to air their views as they've never done before!
Get it all out, you'll feel much better.
I just had to pop in a comment to this well-attended forum (although I'm probably too far down the list for it to be read!). It seems that our Olympic efforts have been good for everyone in some way or another. Lots of fantastic, worldwide coverage for our beautiful town and surrounding area (who from the many countries in the world hasn't heard of Weymouth and Portland now!?) and a very exciting time for all the cynics, moaners and groaners to air their views as they've never done before! Get it all out, you'll feel much better. acynic

10:35am Thu 2 Aug 12

RobinofLocksley says...

I appreciate the input from John New, and agree that the local organisers are not to blame for the relatively low number of visitors. Experience tells us that no-one is ever going to put their hand up and admit to their vast over-estimating of the size of the events here. You would have expected LOCOG to have come up with a realistic estimate, but there may have been input from 'other quarters' who would see more of a benefit financially if the scale of the thing was as large as possible. Business as usual, in other words.
I appreciate the input from John New, and agree that the local organisers are not to blame for the relatively low number of visitors. Experience tells us that no-one is ever going to put their hand up and admit to their vast over-estimating of the size of the events here. You would have expected LOCOG to have come up with a realistic estimate, but there may have been input from 'other quarters' who would see more of a benefit financially if the scale of the thing was as large as possible. Business as usual, in other words. RobinofLocksley

10:57am Thu 2 Aug 12

CharlieBarley says...

We went to Cardiff yesterday for the football - after a 10 mile detour through the industrial estates to the park and ride, we got there to find it was full and there was no other provision for park and ride facilities. Once inside the stadium, we queued for 30 mins for food to find they had sold out of everything except pies. This is a stadium and city that regularly holds events for tens of thousands of people. I think it's unlikely that we'd go back to an event in cardiff.

Weymouth may be over-planned but surely it's better to have too much provision than not enough.
We went to Cardiff yesterday for the football - after a 10 mile detour through the industrial estates to the park and ride, we got there to find it was full and there was no other provision for park and ride facilities. Once inside the stadium, we queued for 30 mins for food to find they had sold out of everything except pies. This is a stadium and city that regularly holds events for tens of thousands of people. I think it's unlikely that we'd go back to an event in cardiff. Weymouth may be over-planned but surely it's better to have too much provision than not enough. CharlieBarley

11:31am Thu 2 Aug 12

satisfecho says...

CharlieBarley wrote:
We went to Cardiff yesterday for the football - after a 10 mile detour through the industrial estates to the park and ride, we got there to find it was full and there was no other provision for park and ride facilities. Once inside the stadium, we queued for 30 mins for food to find they had sold out of everything except pies. This is a stadium and city that regularly holds events for tens of thousands of people. I think it's unlikely that we'd go back to an event in cardiff.

Weymouth may be over-planned but surely it's better to have too much provision than not enough.
No win situation.

Reading through all these posts, groans and moans you have to wonder what would of happened if little provision for crowds had been made for the town then to become a stand still.

There would be a good side to the town being busy, but how many would then go away bemoaning the town saying it could not organise one of those drinking trips to the Brewey
[quote][p][bold]CharlieBarley[/bold] wrote: We went to Cardiff yesterday for the football - after a 10 mile detour through the industrial estates to the park and ride, we got there to find it was full and there was no other provision for park and ride facilities. Once inside the stadium, we queued for 30 mins for food to find they had sold out of everything except pies. This is a stadium and city that regularly holds events for tens of thousands of people. I think it's unlikely that we'd go back to an event in cardiff. Weymouth may be over-planned but surely it's better to have too much provision than not enough.[/p][/quote]No win situation. Reading through all these posts, groans and moans you have to wonder what would of happened if little provision for crowds had been made for the town then to become a stand still. There would be a good side to the town being busy, but how many would then go away bemoaning the town saying it could not organise one of those drinking trips to the Brewey satisfecho

11:57am Thu 2 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

John New wrote:
Point worth answering. I retired 5 years ago and at that time was a middle level cog in the pre-event planning machine but many outline policy parameters were already set by that point At my level and below if the senior ranking acknowledged experts on the event tell you to plan for a very large influx of visitors you assume they know what they are talking about and begin to plan systems to resolve the problem you have been given. What has to be asked is did previous Olympic regattas actually draw the crowds we were told to plan for? If no then who was responsible in the UK Olympic movement for saying there would be such crowds (Cowes week?) and if yes such crowds do exist elsewhere then wtf was the publicity side of the event so bungled by the ODA we haven't had them.

The main truth though is that it is unfair to blame locally based organisations for planning ahead for crowds they were assured would come by the nationally acknowledged experts and for not doing local publicity campaigns they were effectively banned from doing by the same national bodies. Yes there is blame to allocate but very little of it (apart from the details of the traffic light design) falls to either DCC WPBC or Dorset police .
I think there are some fair points in here, but the information on sailing events (and payback from the Olympics in general) is readily available. The local council, as our elected representatives, did not do the research. It is no surprise that the mid level cogs were asked to deliver the unnecessary.

As for the traffic lights, the arrogance of the council in claiming this is an improvement and that accidents are the result of poor driving is just breath taking.

And am i the only one that thinks that some of the newly registered users on this site who are full of praise might themselves be found in North Quay? (Not referring to you here John, your identity is clear, your comments are measured and add value to the discussion).

The police and events staff have done a brilliant job.
[quote][p][bold]John New[/bold] wrote: Point worth answering. I retired 5 years ago and at that time was a middle level cog in the pre-event planning machine but many outline policy parameters were already set by that point At my level and below if the senior ranking acknowledged experts on the event tell you to plan for a very large influx of visitors you assume they know what they are talking about and begin to plan systems to resolve the problem you have been given. What has to be asked is did previous Olympic regattas actually draw the crowds we were told to plan for? If no then who was responsible in the UK Olympic movement for saying there would be such crowds (Cowes week?) and if yes such crowds do exist elsewhere then wtf was the publicity side of the event so bungled by the ODA we haven't had them. The main truth though is that it is unfair to blame locally based organisations for planning ahead for crowds they were assured would come by the nationally acknowledged experts and for not doing local publicity campaigns they were effectively banned from doing by the same national bodies. Yes there is blame to allocate but very little of it (apart from the details of the traffic light design) falls to either DCC WPBC or Dorset police .[/p][/quote]I think there are some fair points in here, but the information on sailing events (and payback from the Olympics in general) is readily available. The local council, as our elected representatives, did not do the research. It is no surprise that the mid level cogs were asked to deliver the unnecessary. As for the traffic lights, the arrogance of the council in claiming this is an improvement and that accidents are the result of poor driving is just breath taking. And am i the only one that thinks that some of the newly registered users on this site who are full of praise might themselves be found in North Quay? (Not referring to you here John, your identity is clear, your comments are measured and add value to the discussion). The police and events staff have done a brilliant job. JamesYoung

12:00pm Thu 2 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

satisfecho wrote:
CharlieBarley wrote:
We went to Cardiff yesterday for the football - after a 10 mile detour through the industrial estates to the park and ride, we got there to find it was full and there was no other provision for park and ride facilities. Once inside the stadium, we queued for 30 mins for food to find they had sold out of everything except pies. This is a stadium and city that regularly holds events for tens of thousands of people. I think it's unlikely that we'd go back to an event in cardiff.

Weymouth may be over-planned but surely it's better to have too much provision than not enough.
No win situation.

Reading through all these posts, groans and moans you have to wonder what would of happened if little provision for crowds had been made for the town then to become a stand still.

There would be a good side to the town being busy, but how many would then go away bemoaning the town saying it could not organise one of those drinking trips to the Brewey
I'm not sure people are complaining about the provision for crowds.
What we are complaining about is that the council and LOCOG misled us over visitor numbers, forced 4 years of traffic disruption and lost trade onto us, lied to us about what facilities we, as local residents, would get to use for free, blocked off large areas of public land, overcharged for tickets, allowed Locog to enforce unacceptable rules on what could be worn and eaten at venues, and generally rode rough shod over our rights. And for what? For phantom crowds that never turned up at any sailing event in the past.
[quote][p][bold]satisfecho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharlieBarley[/bold] wrote: We went to Cardiff yesterday for the football - after a 10 mile detour through the industrial estates to the park and ride, we got there to find it was full and there was no other provision for park and ride facilities. Once inside the stadium, we queued for 30 mins for food to find they had sold out of everything except pies. This is a stadium and city that regularly holds events for tens of thousands of people. I think it's unlikely that we'd go back to an event in cardiff. Weymouth may be over-planned but surely it's better to have too much provision than not enough.[/p][/quote]No win situation. Reading through all these posts, groans and moans you have to wonder what would of happened if little provision for crowds had been made for the town then to become a stand still. There would be a good side to the town being busy, but how many would then go away bemoaning the town saying it could not organise one of those drinking trips to the Brewey[/p][/quote]I'm not sure people are complaining about the provision for crowds. What we are complaining about is that the council and LOCOG misled us over visitor numbers, forced 4 years of traffic disruption and lost trade onto us, lied to us about what facilities we, as local residents, would get to use for free, blocked off large areas of public land, overcharged for tickets, allowed Locog to enforce unacceptable rules on what could be worn and eaten at venues, and generally rode rough shod over our rights. And for what? For phantom crowds that never turned up at any sailing event in the past. JamesYoung

12:02pm Thu 2 Aug 12

JamesYoung says...

acynic wrote:
I just had to pop in a comment to this well-attended forum (although I'm probably too far down the list for it to be read!).
It seems that our Olympic efforts have been good for everyone in some way or another. Lots of fantastic, worldwide coverage for our beautiful town and surrounding area (who from the many countries in the world hasn't heard of Weymouth and Portland now!?) and a very exciting time for all the cynics, moaners and groaners to air their views as they've never done before!
Get it all out, you'll feel much better.
I'll ask again.
Where were the sailing events held in Beijing?
Where were the sailing events held in Sydney?
Where were the sailing events held in Athens?
Next week, none of those who watched will have a clue where the sailing for LONDON 2012 was held. We won't see any extra visitors. What we will see is a couple of years of low visitor numbers because our traditional tourists have found somewhere new.
[quote][p][bold]acynic[/bold] wrote: I just had to pop in a comment to this well-attended forum (although I'm probably too far down the list for it to be read!). It seems that our Olympic efforts have been good for everyone in some way or another. Lots of fantastic, worldwide coverage for our beautiful town and surrounding area (who from the many countries in the world hasn't heard of Weymouth and Portland now!?) and a very exciting time for all the cynics, moaners and groaners to air their views as they've never done before! Get it all out, you'll feel much better.[/p][/quote]I'll ask again. Where were the sailing events held in Beijing? Where were the sailing events held in Sydney? Where were the sailing events held in Athens? Next week, none of those who watched will have a clue where the sailing for LONDON 2012 was held. We won't see any extra visitors. What we will see is a couple of years of low visitor numbers because our traditional tourists have found somewhere new. JamesYoung

3:52pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Desk24 says...

At least its been safe.
At least its been safe. Desk24

4:54pm Thu 2 Aug 12

wessex-andy says...

My biggest moan about the games is that in spite of our country having many miles of beautiful sandy beaches, the beach volleyball is being held on a military parade ground.
My biggest moan about the games is that in spite of our country having many miles of beautiful sandy beaches, the beach volleyball is being held on a military parade ground. wessex-andy

5:22pm Thu 2 Aug 12

portlandboy says...

wessex-andy wrote:
My biggest moan about the games is that in spite of our country having many miles of beautiful sandy beaches, the beach volleyball is being held on a military parade ground.
I thought exactly that too. Sandbanks have hosted international volleyball events, so who not offer the Olympic volleyball to them? Or for that matter, why not hold it on the temporary volleyball court that was constructed ON WEYMOUTH BEACH for the Olympic period? What's that all about???
[quote][p][bold]wessex-andy[/bold] wrote: My biggest moan about the games is that in spite of our country having many miles of beautiful sandy beaches, the beach volleyball is being held on a military parade ground.[/p][/quote]I thought exactly that too. Sandbanks have hosted international volleyball events, so who not offer the Olympic volleyball to them? Or for that matter, why not hold it on the temporary volleyball court that was constructed ON WEYMOUTH BEACH for the Olympic period? What's that all about??? portlandboy

5:42pm Thu 2 Aug 12

weymouthfox says...

Its what we always knew, our councillors are useless and have wasted millions on advertising the town is closed. I never thought we would get many visitors for the sailing, but all these highly paid officers and councillors were sure we would. They should all be sacked.
Its what we always knew, our councillors are useless and have wasted millions on advertising the town is closed. I never thought we would get many visitors for the sailing, but all these highly paid officers and councillors were sure we would. They should all be sacked. weymouthfox

7:30pm Thu 2 Aug 12

Bazzer55 says...

niceonecyril wrote:
Wow 60 comments, didn't realise the whingers society had the brains to create multiple accounts to make them look good, but no matter because the fantastic Olympics have proven you all wrong, £10 to park, which entitles you to some fantastic events, a bargain, the town looks fantastic, driving around, fantastic, no cars on the esplanade (just to go around the statue and come back again), fantastic. Well done Weymouth and Portland for making it a massive success and making our town look quality all over the World
Sorry, I'd better go to Specsavers !
Where are these "fantastic events" ?
Where do I find a "bargain" ?
Where does the town look "fantastic" ?
And just how has "the fantastic Olympics have proven you all wrong" ?
Please inform us ............if you can
[quote][p][bold]niceonecyril[/bold] wrote: Wow 60 comments, didn't realise the whingers society had the brains to create multiple accounts to make them look good, but no matter because the fantastic Olympics have proven you all wrong, £10 to park, which entitles you to some fantastic events, a bargain, the town looks fantastic, driving around, fantastic, no cars on the esplanade (just to go around the statue and come back again), fantastic. Well done Weymouth and Portland for making it a massive success and making our town look quality all over the World[/p][/quote]Sorry, I'd better go to Specsavers ! Where are these "fantastic events" ? Where do I find a "bargain" ? Where does the town look "fantastic" ? And just how has "the fantastic Olympics have proven you all wrong" ? Please inform us ............if you can Bazzer55

9:02pm Thu 2 Aug 12

boobooweymouth says...

@ Bazzer

Bargain = free sailing, kayaking, windsurfing lessons as well as loads of other sports in the Sports Arena

Bargain = £1 for live music & lots of other fun stuff in Bayside Festival

Bargain = free big screens on beach showing Olympic events. Great fun for GB beach volleyball today

Fantastic events - buskers around the town, boat project outside Mallams, ICCI dome kids discos etc

Town looking fantastic = palm trees, lasers, cafes with big decking areas looking out to see, new bus shelters etc
@ Bazzer Bargain = free sailing, kayaking, windsurfing lessons as well as loads of other sports in the Sports Arena Bargain = £1 for live music & lots of other fun stuff in Bayside Festival Bargain = free big screens on beach showing Olympic events. Great fun for GB beach volleyball today Fantastic events - buskers around the town, boat project outside Mallams, ICCI dome kids discos etc Town looking fantastic = palm trees, lasers, cafes with big decking areas looking out to see, new bus shelters etc boobooweymouth

11:15am Fri 3 Aug 12

Laughing gnome says...

Blimey. I got that one wrong in my earlier post. Just keep it free & maybe the difference will tell over the next week. Good luck to all of our traders & a BIG THANK YOU to all the visitors.Hope you all enjoy what Weymouth & Portland has to offer.
Blimey. I got that one wrong in my earlier post. Just keep it free & maybe the difference will tell over the next week. Good luck to all of our traders & a BIG THANK YOU to all the visitors.Hope you all enjoy what Weymouth & Portland has to offer. Laughing gnome

11:33am Fri 3 Aug 12

marypo says...

I feel sorry for the people working on the beach. They all worked very hard and spent money to ensure that their businesses looked good for this year's event. Now all they see is a constant stream of people making their way to the end of the beach for the Olympic area. They cannot compete with free activities. So the donkey rides are forgotten, the Punch and Judy is playing to a handful of children and those selling buckets and spades are twiddling their thumbs. Tourists who usually enjoy sitting in deckchairs to enjoy the view of the sea cannot do so because of the horrible blue stuff erected along the front. So next year when all the hype has died down will there still be donkey rides on the beach? Will the Punch and Judy man be able to afford to be there every day for the holiday makers?
These workers were told originally that the Olympic team would work alongside the traders of Weymouth for the good of all. Don't brand these people who are only trying to make a living as whingers who are trying to cash in on the Olympics.
I feel sorry for the people working on the beach. They all worked very hard and spent money to ensure that their businesses looked good for this year's event. Now all they see is a constant stream of people making their way to the end of the beach for the Olympic area. They cannot compete with free activities. So the donkey rides are forgotten, the Punch and Judy is playing to a handful of children and those selling buckets and spades are twiddling their thumbs. Tourists who usually enjoy sitting in deckchairs to enjoy the view of the sea cannot do so because of the horrible blue stuff erected along the front. So next year when all the hype has died down will there still be donkey rides on the beach? Will the Punch and Judy man be able to afford to be there every day for the holiday makers? These workers were told originally that the Olympic team would work alongside the traders of Weymouth for the good of all. Don't brand these people who are only trying to make a living as whingers who are trying to cash in on the Olympics. marypo

4:52pm Fri 3 Aug 12

rjimmer says...

So more people will visit Weymouth if they didn't think the parking was a rip-off! What a surprise! How many more people would come back year-after-year if the park and ride was free from now on? I see the Lodmoor P & R is still £10!
So more people will visit Weymouth if they didn't think the parking was a rip-off! What a surprise! How many more people would come back year-after-year if the park and ride was free from now on? I see the Lodmoor P & R is still £10! rjimmer

8:02pm Fri 3 Aug 12

Bazzer55 says...

boobooweymouth wrote:
@ Bazzer

Bargain = free sailing, kayaking, windsurfing lessons as well as loads of other sports in the Sports Arena

Bargain = £1 for live music & lots of other fun stuff in Bayside Festival

Bargain = free big screens on beach showing Olympic events. Great fun for GB beach volleyball today

Fantastic events - buskers around the town, boat project outside Mallams, ICCI dome kids discos etc

Town looking fantastic = palm trees, lasers, cafes with big decking areas looking out to see, new bus shelters etc
@ boobooweymouth
All I can say is that your definition of "Bargain" is worlds apart from mine.The Live Music is from second rate bands that play in local pubs for free anyway.
As for "Town Looking Fantastic " What part of the town was that ?
....Buskers !....New Bus Shelters ! The Lasers !

Oh Dear
[quote][p][bold]boobooweymouth[/bold] wrote: @ Bazzer Bargain = free sailing, kayaking, windsurfing lessons as well as loads of other sports in the Sports Arena Bargain = £1 for live music & lots of other fun stuff in Bayside Festival Bargain = free big screens on beach showing Olympic events. Great fun for GB beach volleyball today Fantastic events - buskers around the town, boat project outside Mallams, ICCI dome kids discos etc Town looking fantastic = palm trees, lasers, cafes with big decking areas looking out to see, new bus shelters etc[/p][/quote]@ boobooweymouth All I can say is that your definition of "Bargain" is worlds apart from mine.The Live Music is from second rate bands that play in local pubs for free anyway. As for "Town Looking Fantastic " What part of the town was that ? ....Buskers !....New Bus Shelters ! The Lasers ! Oh Dear Bazzer55

9:38pm Fri 3 Aug 12

VaguelyPurple says...

I don't know why absolutely everything has to be a cause for Cynicism. Closing the Esplanade and King St and Commercial Rd (along the bit anyone would want to go) is the best idea anyone's had for along time. Isn't it nice without all the traffic?
I don't know why absolutely everything has to be a cause for Cynicism. Closing the Esplanade and King St and Commercial Rd (along the bit anyone would want to go) is the best idea anyone's had for along time. Isn't it nice without all the traffic? VaguelyPurple

11:10pm Fri 3 Aug 12

gameon says...

One word for the Council and The heads in sand Organisers DESPERATE and the people still wont come to take up your offers of free park and ride this is turning out to be the Travesty and farce that all normal folk predicted Millions and Millions of Pounds wasted business,s facing ruin the town dug up and the shambles at canford bottom all because of these brain dead idiots and there fantasy white elephant ideas.
One word for the Council and The heads in sand Organisers DESPERATE and the people still wont come to take up your offers of free park and ride this is turning out to be the Travesty and farce that all normal folk predicted Millions and Millions of Pounds wasted business,s facing ruin the town dug up and the shambles at canford bottom all because of these brain dead idiots and there fantasy white elephant ideas. gameon

9:50am Sat 4 Aug 12

VaguelyPurple says...

What's going on at Canford Bottom, and how is that the fault of Weynouth & Portland Council (other, of course, than their being to blame for everything, including the Eurozone crisis and the Chinese badminton team cheating)?
What's going on at Canford Bottom, and how is that the fault of Weynouth & Portland Council (other, of course, than their being to blame for everything, including the Eurozone crisis and the Chinese badminton team cheating)? VaguelyPurple

11:14am Sat 4 Aug 12

portlandboy says...

Much busier on the roads yesterday. People must be starting to realise that you can get to Poole, Bournemouth and Bridport etc. quite easily, and park at a reasonable cost too.
Much busier on the roads yesterday. People must be starting to realise that you can get to Poole, Bournemouth and Bridport etc. quite easily, and park at a reasonable cost too. portlandboy

1:07pm Mon 6 Aug 12

RobinofLocksley says...

VaguelyPurple wrote:
I don't know why absolutely everything has to be a cause for Cynicism. Closing the Esplanade and King St and Commercial Rd (along the bit anyone would want to go) is the best idea anyone's had for along time. Isn't it nice without all the traffic?
Agreed. The Esplanade has much more of a 'holiday feel' to it without the traffic. I do sympathise with the taxi drivers, and the best system would be to make it a 'taxis and bicycles only zone' but that would need enforcement measures in place that WPBC probably don't want to pay for. I'd like to think that some motorists might realise after this that it's easier to go round the town than queue to drive through it.
I've also been pleased to see the bike parks full, or nearly full, each day.
Oh, and most of the P&R buses I saw yesterday in the early evening heading out of town had loads of people on board - at last!
[quote][p][bold]VaguelyPurple[/bold] wrote: I don't know why absolutely everything has to be a cause for Cynicism. Closing the Esplanade and King St and Commercial Rd (along the bit anyone would want to go) is the best idea anyone's had for along time. Isn't it nice without all the traffic?[/p][/quote]Agreed. The Esplanade has much more of a 'holiday feel' to it without the traffic. I do sympathise with the taxi drivers, and the best system would be to make it a 'taxis and bicycles only zone' but that would need enforcement measures in place that WPBC probably don't want to pay for. I'd like to think that some motorists might realise after this that it's easier to go round the town than queue to drive through it. I've also been pleased to see the bike parks full, or nearly full, each day. Oh, and most of the P&R buses I saw yesterday in the early evening heading out of town had loads of people on board - at last! RobinofLocksley

8:21pm Tue 7 Aug 12

Ashers 5 says...

iampuzzled wrote:
Presstostop
So that all the visitors that have not come can walk around.
Are you on Twitter ? If not you should be !!
[quote][p][bold]iampuzzled[/bold] wrote: Presstostop So that all the visitors that have not come can walk around.[/p][/quote]Are you on Twitter ? If not you should be !! Ashers 5

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