Car parking set to change in Portland and Weymouth

ALL CHANGE: Parking in Weymouth and Portland faces the biggest shake-up in years

ALL CHANGE: Parking in Weymouth and Portland faces the biggest shake-up in years

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CAR parking is to be revolutionised in Weymouth and Portland, council chiefs say.

They have axed overnight and Sunday charges throughout the winter and announced a review that will see the biggest shake-up of parking in the borough in years.

Pay by mobile and pay on exit are among the choices parking chiefs want to make available for motorists.

Councillor Christine James and head of parking Chris Graves made the announcement to traders through the Weymouth and Portland Chamber of Commerce’s monthly meeting yesterday.

Alongside officers in Weymouth and Portland Borough Council’s parking department, they will be speaking to town traders and residents to collect their views on parking.

Coun James said: “I’ve been pushing for free parking for two years. We are fully intent on revolutionising car parking and bringing it into the 21st century. We haven’t been able to do this in the past.

“We’re going to be going out to the businesses but we won’t be able to knock on every door so they can also come direct to us. If people have an issue I’d rather they speak to me.

“We’re going to be listening and talking to every section of society.”

The parking review will be taking place over the next four to eight weeks.

Using a mobile phone to pay for parking could be available on a trial basis as early as January. Mr Graves said the changes would give residents more options.

“We want to do things like online permit schemes, pay on exit, pay by phone, credit cards and pre-payment scratch cards.

“This is the hugest thing to happen to parking in the last 15 to 20 years and we want to know what everyone thinks. Decisions cannot be made by the independent autonomous few,” he said.

Coun James and Mr Graves said there are plans to take recommendations from the review to the council management committee by December.

All borough council car parks and on street pay and display parking spaces will be free on Sundays and overnight between 6pm and 8am from November 1 to February 28 2013.

Tickets can be bought to add on to the end of the free overnight period. In parking places subject to maximum stay time limits, those limits will still apply.

Charges will still apply at the Crown Estate-owned car parks Castletown, Chesil and Portland Bill.

‘A positive way to get people into Weymouth’

TAHER Jibet, of Weymouth restaurant the Dining Room in St Mary Street, said the axing of overnight charges over the winter should give the town’s evening economy a boost.

He said: “This will help us a lot. It will really encourage people to stay for longer and not worry about their parking running out.

“One thing I think should be included in the review is that parking is expensive.”

Dennis Spurr, of the Fantastic Sausage Factory in St Mary Street, said news of the scrapped charges was ‘absolutely fantastic’.

“Good on the council. It’s about time they woke up. It’s a good, positive effort to entice people into Weymouth.

“As part of the review I would like them to look at how dear the parking is.

“I paid £3 to park in the Pavilion car park for two hours but the following day I went to Poole and it was £3.40 for four hours,” he said.

Chamber of commerce president Anna-Maria Geare said: “I’m pleased to hear that car parking in the town is due to be revamped.

“People’s views are important to allow these changes to happen.”

Council Abolished Fees In 2010

OVERNIGHT and Sunday parking charges in Dorchester were scrapped in September 2010 in a two year trial period.

West Dorset District Council, a partner council of Weymouth and Portland Borough Council, abolished charges in all its car parks overnight and on Sundays, apart from the coastal strip between West Bexington and Lyme Regis.

The axing of charges in the county town led to fears that Weymouth was losing business to nearby Dorchester with motorists taking advantage of the newly built Weymouth Relief Road to park for free.

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10:30am Wed 3 Oct 12

snowleopard says...

Yeovil has had no Sunday charge for decades
Yeovil has had no Sunday charge for decades snowleopard
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10:44am Wed 3 Oct 12

I am not a grockle says...

In my humble opinion:

1. Pay on exit is the thing that would make the best improvement in my view. This would allow people to shop at their leisure without the stress of getting back to their car to avoid a ticket.

2. Simple charging structure £x per hour.

3. Overnight parking free all year round.

4. A weekly parking pass for all borough car parks (could exclude town centre ones) so that tourists (or locals) who want to go to Portland Bill, Chesil, Lodmoor, Brewers Quay etc can have this all covered for say £30 for the week rather than having to fork out each time they go to another car park at a different location. (would need co-operation of Crown car parks).

5. Pay by mobile phone not really worth the investment and is not really popular in my view.
In my humble opinion: 1. Pay on exit is the thing that would make the best improvement in my view. This would allow people to shop at their leisure without the stress of getting back to their car to avoid a ticket. 2. Simple charging structure £x per hour. 3. Overnight parking free all year round. 4. A weekly parking pass for all borough car parks (could exclude town centre ones) so that tourists (or locals) who want to go to Portland Bill, Chesil, Lodmoor, Brewers Quay etc can have this all covered for say £30 for the week rather than having to fork out each time they go to another car park at a different location. (would need co-operation of Crown car parks). 5. Pay by mobile phone not really worth the investment and is not really popular in my view. I am not a grockle
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11:10am Wed 3 Oct 12

portlandboy says...

No mention of changes in the charges for disabled parking. Since the Olympic restrictions were lifted, many of the on street spots have been left with the twin curb stripes reducing the overall number of spaces available. Yes, disabled drivers can pay to park in car parks, but if you really can't walk far, the on street spots are vital.
...and ALL disabled parking, on street or car parks, are still free in Poole.
No mention of changes in the charges for disabled parking. Since the Olympic restrictions were lifted, many of the on street spots have been left with the twin curb stripes reducing the overall number of spaces available. Yes, disabled drivers can pay to park in car parks, but if you really can't walk far, the on street spots are vital. ...and ALL disabled parking, on street or car parks, are still free in Poole. portlandboy
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11:13am Wed 3 Oct 12

unexpected error says...

I'm not bothered about how I pay, just how much. I hope the council doesn't end up not reducing the charges significantly to pay for any changes introduced such as new technology etc.

I could of parked all day in Bridport for marginally more than I had to fork out for a couple of hours in Weymouth. This wouldn't be so bad if Weymouth was a nice town centre with lots of good shops but it's not I'm afraid.
I'm not bothered about how I pay, just how much. I hope the council doesn't end up not reducing the charges significantly to pay for any changes introduced such as new technology etc. I could of parked all day in Bridport for marginally more than I had to fork out for a couple of hours in Weymouth. This wouldn't be so bad if Weymouth was a nice town centre with lots of good shops but it's not I'm afraid. unexpected error
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11:21am Wed 3 Oct 12

I am not a grockle says...

unexpected error wrote:
I'm not bothered about how I pay, just how much. I hope the council doesn't end up not reducing the charges significantly to pay for any changes introduced such as new technology etc.

I could of parked all day in Bridport for marginally more than I had to fork out for a couple of hours in Weymouth. This wouldn't be so bad if Weymouth was a nice town centre with lots of good shops but it's not I'm afraid.
I agree - cheaper too. Price does put people off coming into town and limits how long they stay.
[quote][p][bold]unexpected error[/bold] wrote: I'm not bothered about how I pay, just how much. I hope the council doesn't end up not reducing the charges significantly to pay for any changes introduced such as new technology etc. I could of parked all day in Bridport for marginally more than I had to fork out for a couple of hours in Weymouth. This wouldn't be so bad if Weymouth was a nice town centre with lots of good shops but it's not I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]I agree - cheaper too. Price does put people off coming into town and limits how long they stay. I am not a grockle
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11:22am Wed 3 Oct 12

3rdAccount says...

Simple solution - free after 6pm please and yes to pay on exit. Also keep day charges low and simple - maximum £1 an hour.

Town Councils need to understand that this is how they compete for visitors / shoppers with other towns. Get the shoppers in, keep the business open, business rates/taxes will keep coming in helping to keep council tax down for all……….
Simple solution - free after 6pm please and yes to pay on exit. Also keep day charges low and simple - maximum £1 an hour. Town Councils need to understand that this is how they compete for visitors / shoppers with other towns. Get the shoppers in, keep the business open, business rates/taxes will keep coming in helping to keep council tax down for all………. 3rdAccount
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11:42am Wed 3 Oct 12

willimac says...

Great news - Dorchester has been doing this for a long time. If there is one thing that clouds Weymouth for locals and visitors it is the parking issues.
Great news - Dorchester has been doing this for a long time. If there is one thing that clouds Weymouth for locals and visitors it is the parking issues. willimac
  • Score: 1

12:25pm Wed 3 Oct 12

dorsetbeachcomber says...

unexpected error wrote:
I'm not bothered about how I pay, just how much. I hope the council doesn't end up not reducing the charges significantly to pay for any changes introduced such as new technology etc.

I could of parked all day in Bridport for marginally more than I had to fork out for a couple of hours in Weymouth. This wouldn't be so bad if Weymouth was a nice town centre with lots of good shops but it's not I'm afraid.
You could have parked all day in Weymouth for £1.50 if you'd used the Park and Ride
[quote][p][bold]unexpected error[/bold] wrote: I'm not bothered about how I pay, just how much. I hope the council doesn't end up not reducing the charges significantly to pay for any changes introduced such as new technology etc. I could of parked all day in Bridport for marginally more than I had to fork out for a couple of hours in Weymouth. This wouldn't be so bad if Weymouth was a nice town centre with lots of good shops but it's not I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You could have parked all day in Weymouth for £1.50 if you'd used the Park and Ride dorsetbeachcomber
  • Score: 1

12:58pm Wed 3 Oct 12

unexpected error says...

dorsetbeachcomber wrote:
unexpected error wrote:
I'm not bothered about how I pay, just how much. I hope the council doesn't end up not reducing the charges significantly to pay for any changes introduced such as new technology etc.

I could of parked all day in Bridport for marginally more than I had to fork out for a couple of hours in Weymouth. This wouldn't be so bad if Weymouth was a nice town centre with lots of good shops but it's not I'm afraid.
You could have parked all day in Weymouth for £1.50 if you'd used the Park and Ride
Time is at a premium I'm afraid. It's far quicker, from the direction I come into town, to park up near Wilkies and nip round town. Park and ride is great for those who have the time to drive out of town, wait for a bus then drive back into town, for the rest of us it's just impractical.
[quote][p][bold]dorsetbeachcomber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unexpected error[/bold] wrote: I'm not bothered about how I pay, just how much. I hope the council doesn't end up not reducing the charges significantly to pay for any changes introduced such as new technology etc. I could of parked all day in Bridport for marginally more than I had to fork out for a couple of hours in Weymouth. This wouldn't be so bad if Weymouth was a nice town centre with lots of good shops but it's not I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]You could have parked all day in Weymouth for £1.50 if you'd used the Park and Ride[/p][/quote]Time is at a premium I'm afraid. It's far quicker, from the direction I come into town, to park up near Wilkies and nip round town. Park and ride is great for those who have the time to drive out of town, wait for a bus then drive back into town, for the rest of us it's just impractical. unexpected error
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1:30pm Wed 3 Oct 12

DucksQuack says...

The wheel, revolutionary
The jet engine, revolutionary
Theory of relativity, revolutionary
The industrial revolution....

Dropping car park charges at night.
Revolutionary?

Coun James, you are really spoiling us with your revolutionary scheme.
The wheel, revolutionary The jet engine, revolutionary Theory of relativity, revolutionary The industrial revolution.... Dropping car park charges at night. Revolutionary? Coun James, you are really spoiling us with your revolutionary scheme. DucksQuack
  • Score: 3

1:45pm Wed 3 Oct 12

voiceof says...

snowleopard wrote:
Yeovil has had no Sunday charge for decades
Yes, but having visited Yeovil on a Sunday recently, the majority of shops are closed and therefore there's no demand for parking.
[quote][p][bold]snowleopard[/bold] wrote: Yeovil has had no Sunday charge for decades[/p][/quote]Yes, but having visited Yeovil on a Sunday recently, the majority of shops are closed and therefore there's no demand for parking. voiceof
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Wed 3 Oct 12

notweymouth says...

are the on-street bays in Castletown included? These are nearly always empty due to the excessive price.
are the on-street bays in Castletown included? These are nearly always empty due to the excessive price. notweymouth
  • Score: 1

3:06pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Dr Brendan Webster says...

The new arrangment is a step in the right direction if we want a revival of town centre commerce - at least in the evenings.

I am one of those that has centred their social activities in Dorchester, at least in part due to ease of parking, even though I live near Weymouth Town Centre. With evening parking still being expensive from March to October this may not be enough for those forming a regular pattern. Also, the shopping in Dorchester is better and daytime parking is cheaper in Dorchester.

An old idea was to abandon the backwater marina and fill it in to create retail space for big stores. It is probably too late now, but the extra space might have prevented decline and kept us ahead of Dorchester. I am not at all convinced that the backwater generally earns a great deal for residents. There is also a great deal more mooring space in the Borough as a whole since the olympic suge in interest.
The new arrangment is a step in the right direction if we want a revival of town centre commerce - at least in the evenings. I am one of those that has centred their social activities in Dorchester, at least in part due to ease of parking, even though I live near Weymouth Town Centre. With evening parking still being expensive from March to October this may not be enough for those forming a regular pattern. Also, the shopping in Dorchester is better and daytime parking is cheaper in Dorchester. An old idea was to abandon the backwater marina and fill it in to create retail space for big stores. It is probably too late now, but the extra space might have prevented decline and kept us ahead of Dorchester. I am not at all convinced that the backwater generally earns a great deal for residents. There is also a great deal more mooring space in the Borough as a whole since the olympic suge in interest. Dr Brendan Webster
  • Score: 0

3:37pm Wed 3 Oct 12

bnaty12 says...

Was all the comments about costs and ****-ups, answers and investigations on the Quay side repairs deleted from the Echo article at the request of the Council?
Was all the comments about costs and ****-ups, answers and investigations on the Quay side repairs deleted from the Echo article at the request of the Council? bnaty12
  • Score: 1

3:39pm Wed 3 Oct 12

jmc1 says...

voiceof wrote:
snowleopard wrote:
Yeovil has had no Sunday charge for decades
Yes, but having visited Yeovil on a Sunday recently, the majority of shops are closed and therefore there's no demand for parking.
Just like Weymouth
[quote][p][bold]voiceof[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snowleopard[/bold] wrote: Yeovil has had no Sunday charge for decades[/p][/quote]Yes, but having visited Yeovil on a Sunday recently, the majority of shops are closed and therefore there's no demand for parking.[/p][/quote]Just like Weymouth jmc1
  • Score: 1

3:41pm Wed 3 Oct 12

siratb says...

This is good news. At the moment whenever I drive to town I park in the Multistory car park, for three reasons:
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1) I can pay on exit and not worry about a ticket
2) I can pay by bank card
3) I have a privilege card and so get 10-20% cheaper parking by being a local
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I don't like the MS car park though as it is too cramped, so what I would like to see from W&PBC is:
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1) Pay on exit
2) Pay by card
3) Discount card for locals
4) 20 minutes free parking so that if you need to pop to the post office to pick up a package etc., then you can do it without getting a ticket.
This is good news. At the moment whenever I drive to town I park in the Multistory car park, for three reasons: . 1) I can pay on exit and not worry about a ticket 2) I can pay by bank card 3) I have a privilege card and so get 10-20% cheaper parking by being a local . I don't like the MS car park though as it is too cramped, so what I would like to see from W&PBC is: . 1) Pay on exit 2) Pay by card 3) Discount card for locals 4) 20 minutes free parking so that if you need to pop to the post office to pick up a package etc., then you can do it without getting a ticket. siratb
  • Score: 1

3:51pm Wed 3 Oct 12

PEJ says...

I would be willing to shop in Weymouth but the parking charges are too high. Dorchester offers far more and I can stay all day for £2. Maybe if the council come out of cloud cuckoo land they are in, perhaps Weymouth town centre could be revived. Until then I see only a slow decline with a thriving night time economy. Surely there should be a balance of both. When all the shops are boarded up W&PBC will argue who was at fault. Mind you I will not hold my breath that the council have a sensible idea to revive Weymouth as I have watched the decline in the harbour wall for many years and witnessed the loss of Condor and their much needed revenue together with Brewers quay closing and the depressing state of that area now.
I would be willing to shop in Weymouth but the parking charges are too high. Dorchester offers far more and I can stay all day for £2. Maybe if the council come out of cloud cuckoo land they are in, perhaps Weymouth town centre could be revived. Until then I see only a slow decline with a thriving night time economy. Surely there should be a balance of both. When all the shops are boarded up W&PBC will argue who was at fault. Mind you I will not hold my breath that the council have a sensible idea to revive Weymouth as I have watched the decline in the harbour wall for many years and witnessed the loss of Condor and their much needed revenue together with Brewers quay closing and the depressing state of that area now. PEJ
  • Score: 1

4:46pm Wed 3 Oct 12

bootedsw says...

I use the West Dorset Shopper permit it gives a couple of hours free a day in certain car parks in West Dorset. Its great for nipping into Dorchester at lunchtime. Its a shame Weymouth don't or won't do something similar.
I use the West Dorset Shopper permit it gives a couple of hours free a day in certain car parks in West Dorset. Its great for nipping into Dorchester at lunchtime. Its a shame Weymouth don't or won't do something similar. bootedsw
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Sezza1 says...

In my home town we have number plate recognition (ticketless), I think it works great. I am moving to weymouth in a couple of weeks time and think it would be great there too.
In my home town we have number plate recognition (ticketless), I think it works great. I am moving to weymouth in a couple of weeks time and think it would be great there too. Sezza1
  • Score: 0

5:57pm Wed 3 Oct 12

TenBobDylanThomasHardy says...

Okay, I'll say it then, great decision, well done Weymouth Council. best of luck to local businesses.
Okay, I'll say it then, great decision, well done Weymouth Council. best of luck to local businesses. TenBobDylanThomasHardy
  • Score: -1

6:39pm Wed 3 Oct 12

common cence says...

TO LATE TO SHUT THE GATE , THE HORSE HAS GONE , ALONG WITH ALL THE REST,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
TO LATE TO SHUT THE GATE , THE HORSE HAS GONE , ALONG WITH ALL THE REST,,,,,,,,,,,,,, common cence
  • Score: 1

7:11pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Crabber says...

The last thrash of a dying duck.
The last thrash of a dying duck. Crabber
  • Score: 1

7:54pm Wed 3 Oct 12

chesilboy says...

Dr Brendan Webster wrote:
The new arrangment is a step in the right direction if we want a revival of town centre commerce - at least in the evenings.

I am one of those that has centred their social activities in Dorchester, at least in part due to ease of parking, even though I live near Weymouth Town Centre. With evening parking still being expensive from March to October this may not be enough for those forming a regular pattern. Also, the shopping in Dorchester is better and daytime parking is cheaper in Dorchester.

An old idea was to abandon the backwater marina and fill it in to create retail space for big stores. It is probably too late now, but the extra space might have prevented decline and kept us ahead of Dorchester. I am not at all convinced that the backwater generally earns a great deal for residents. There is also a great deal more mooring space in the Borough as a whole since the olympic suge in interest.
Is your last paragraph a joke - was this seriously suggested at some point?

Perhaps when we have done this, we could Tarmac over the beach to cope with the extra parking demand. ;)
[quote][p][bold]Dr Brendan Webster[/bold] wrote: The new arrangment is a step in the right direction if we want a revival of town centre commerce - at least in the evenings. I am one of those that has centred their social activities in Dorchester, at least in part due to ease of parking, even though I live near Weymouth Town Centre. With evening parking still being expensive from March to October this may not be enough for those forming a regular pattern. Also, the shopping in Dorchester is better and daytime parking is cheaper in Dorchester. An old idea was to abandon the backwater marina and fill it in to create retail space for big stores. It is probably too late now, but the extra space might have prevented decline and kept us ahead of Dorchester. I am not at all convinced that the backwater generally earns a great deal for residents. There is also a great deal more mooring space in the Borough as a whole since the olympic suge in interest.[/p][/quote]Is your last paragraph a joke - was this seriously suggested at some point? Perhaps when we have done this, we could Tarmac over the beach to cope with the extra parking demand. ;) chesilboy
  • Score: 1

7:56pm Wed 3 Oct 12

annotator1 says...

This is just a wholesale copy of Bournemouth who, incidentally, got it right many years ago!
Would it not be more economic to copy a working system rather than spend time and money apparently coming up with ideas that may or may not work?
This is just a wholesale copy of Bournemouth who, incidentally, got it right many years ago! Would it not be more economic to copy a working system rather than spend time and money apparently coming up with ideas that may or may not work? annotator1
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9:57pm Wed 3 Oct 12

banknote says...

The car parking issue is only another example of bllinkered attitude of Weymouth Borough Council.

Back in the 1960's the Council had the opportunity to attract the conference trade to the resort, to attract some industry (ie: Clarks) - and what happened: the Council turned these projects down. Part of this attitude was no doubt vested interests of some councillors in keeping wages in the area as low as possible.

Just look at the way Bournemouth has marketed itself.

Weymouth is still paying for these mistakes today - and the Council's attitude has not changed.

I have heard said that those who have the talent and foresight to be councillors - have not the time - we are, unfotunately left with the rest.
The car parking issue is only another example of bllinkered attitude of Weymouth Borough Council. Back in the 1960's the Council had the opportunity to attract the conference trade to the resort, to attract some industry (ie: Clarks) - and what happened: the Council turned these projects down. Part of this attitude was no doubt vested interests of some councillors in keeping wages in the area as low as possible. Just look at the way Bournemouth has marketed itself. Weymouth is still paying for these mistakes today - and the Council's attitude has not changed. I have heard said that those who have the talent and foresight to be councillors - have not the time - we are, unfotunately left with the rest. banknote
  • Score: 1

10:29pm Wed 3 Oct 12

ksmain says...

While I think that these changes would be a good idea, the cynic in me still thinks that prices will increase to pay for the cost of this new technology, especially now that the Council have to pay £4million for the cost of a new pier and several hundred thousand £ losses due to lack of Condor's business.

I don't think that car parking charges/lack of new car park technology are alone in deterring people from Weymouth, more so the lack of much decent shops to shop in!
While I think that these changes would be a good idea, the cynic in me still thinks that prices will increase to pay for the cost of this new technology, especially now that the Council have to pay £4million for the cost of a new pier and several hundred thousand £ losses due to lack of Condor's business. I don't think that car parking charges/lack of new car park technology are alone in deterring people from Weymouth, more so the lack of much decent shops to shop in! ksmain
  • Score: 1

10:53pm Wed 3 Oct 12

billylovesweymouth says...

My wife and I visit Weymouth at least 3 times a year. We love the town. We do object to the amount of money we have to spend on car parking but find that the same applies wherever you go. We will not stop coming because of charges. We normally use the car park at Brewers Quay but would prefer pay as you leave.
My wife and I visit Weymouth at least 3 times a year. We love the town. We do object to the amount of money we have to spend on car parking but find that the same applies wherever you go. We will not stop coming because of charges. We normally use the car park at Brewers Quay but would prefer pay as you leave. billylovesweymouth
  • Score: 0

11:21pm Wed 3 Oct 12

thecomment says...

Glad to see this finally happen - it has been in the pipe-line for many years but has been dragged backwards by Councillors who can't see past the end of their noses. Well done to those involved for finally getting this pushed through. It may have taken a while but got there in the end!
Lastly "Was all the comments about costs and ****-ups, answers and investigations on the Quay side repairs deleted from the Echo article at the request of the Council?" I think you're looking at the wrong story?!
Glad to see this finally happen - it has been in the pipe-line for many years but has been dragged backwards by Councillors who can't see past the end of their noses. Well done to those involved for finally getting this pushed through. It may have taken a while but got there in the end! Lastly "Was all the comments about costs and ****-ups, answers and investigations on the Quay side repairs deleted from the Echo article at the request of the Council?" I think you're looking at the wrong story?! thecomment
  • Score: 1

11:38pm Wed 3 Oct 12

water witch says...

I have lived in both Weymouth and Dorchester for many years, although not for many years. Today I came across the electronic un version of the Echo that I once delivered for Lewis Meesons out of Dorchester.
I have spent several hours brousing through the articles and more interestingly, the comments. It has been 18 years since I left for sunny Califofnia, and am amazed that nothing has changed. parking was an issue in both towns 20 and 30 years ago. Shopping in both towns was aweful, clothes shopping nearly always too us to Poole, Bournemouth or Yeovil. Next did show up, but did not cater to me being only 5' 8", point being, n(o choices. The Charles street parking lot quandry was at least 50 years old then.
Nothing gets fixed, harbour wall, Condor leaves, price goes through the roof. Business, revenue lost. Starbucks annouses it's closure to much applauds, as it is a dirty facillity and it's fair being bad. Trust me, that is not the Starbucks way. Concerns were voiced for the loss of jobs, if you are unable to make coffee in a "coffee" shop or keep tables clean, should you have been there in the first place?
The parking payment concern, maybe a validation program with the retailer may, only may entice a would-be shopper to part with their money.
I have read many comments, lots of mistrust in the local authorities, can't blame you all there, but hardly was there a real solution proposed to the problems. Servicing the sevice industry does not work, that comes.
If it is dirty, clean it up, broken, fix it, make it a place of destination for both locals, visitor and INDUSTRY. I have fond memories of growing up, physically not mentally in both Weymouth and Dorchester, and would like visit one day again, but would be alarmed picking up the Echo and read the same old headlines from today, 20, 30, 50 years ago.
Although San Diego is a great place to live, they have their issues too, abound I hasten to add.
Oh well back to the sunshine, blue skies, sand and surf, did I mention the bikinis? Wow. In closing, be like Nike, "Just Do It". One question, how much does Tesco charge to park?
I have lived in both Weymouth and Dorchester for many years, although not for many years. Today I came across the electronic un version of the Echo that I once delivered for Lewis Meesons out of Dorchester. I have spent several hours brousing through the articles and more interestingly, the comments. It has been 18 years since I left for sunny Califofnia, and am amazed that nothing has changed. parking was an issue in both towns 20 and 30 years ago. Shopping in both towns was aweful, clothes shopping nearly always too us to Poole, Bournemouth or Yeovil. Next did show up, but did not cater to me being only 5' 8", point being, n(o choices. The Charles street parking lot quandry was at least 50 years old then. Nothing gets fixed, harbour wall, Condor leaves, price goes through the roof. Business, revenue lost. Starbucks annouses it's closure to much applauds, as it is a dirty facillity and it's fair being bad. Trust me, that is not the Starbucks way. Concerns were voiced for the loss of jobs, if you are unable to make coffee in a "coffee" shop or keep tables clean, should you have been there in the first place? The parking payment concern, maybe a validation program with the retailer may, only may entice a would-be shopper to part with their money. I have read many comments, lots of mistrust in the local authorities, can't blame you all there, but hardly was there a real solution proposed to the problems. Servicing the sevice industry does not work, that comes. If it is dirty, clean it up, broken, fix it, make it a place of destination for both locals, visitor and INDUSTRY. I have fond memories of growing up, physically not mentally in both Weymouth and Dorchester, and would like visit one day again, but would be alarmed picking up the Echo and read the same old headlines from today, 20, 30, 50 years ago. Although San Diego is a great place to live, they have their issues too, abound I hasten to add. Oh well back to the sunshine, blue skies, sand and surf, did I mention the bikinis? Wow. In closing, be like Nike, "Just Do It". One question, how much does Tesco charge to park? water witch
  • Score: -1

11:03am Thu 4 Oct 12

delped says...

Free car park spaces over night and on Sundays in the car parks and multi storeys sounds like a good idea although I would not like to see zoned street spots included in this.
One of the best things during the olympics was the hoods on the meters, this meant one could use their vehicle without worrying about finding a spot when they return, residents zoned areas should be for residents only.
I can see why the yellow flashes where painted in some areas, it was to stop people who think they can park anywhere parking in dangerous spots and from blocking tight spaces causing congetion.
Free car park spaces over night and on Sundays in the car parks and multi storeys sounds like a good idea although I would not like to see zoned street spots included in this. One of the best things during the olympics was the hoods on the meters, this meant one could use their vehicle without worrying about finding a spot when they return, residents zoned areas should be for residents only. I can see why the yellow flashes where painted in some areas, it was to stop people who think they can park anywhere parking in dangerous spots and from blocking tight spaces causing congetion. delped
  • Score: 1

11:04am Thu 4 Oct 12

delped says...

Free car park spaces over night and on Sundays in the car parks and multi storeys sounds like a good idea although I would not like to see zoned street spots included in this.
One of the best things during the olympics was the hoods on the meters, this meant one could use their vehicle without worrying about finding a spot when they return, residents zoned areas should be for residents only.
I can see why the yellow flashes where painted in some areas, it was to stop people who think they can park anywhere parking in dangerous spots and from blocking tight spaces causing congestion.
Free car park spaces over night and on Sundays in the car parks and multi storeys sounds like a good idea although I would not like to see zoned street spots included in this. One of the best things during the olympics was the hoods on the meters, this meant one could use their vehicle without worrying about finding a spot when they return, residents zoned areas should be for residents only. I can see why the yellow flashes where painted in some areas, it was to stop people who think they can park anywhere parking in dangerous spots and from blocking tight spaces causing congestion. delped
  • Score: 1

10:20pm Thu 4 Oct 12

portland rebel says...

the simple answer to encourage shoppers into weymouth is reasonable short term parking ie 1hr 20p 2hrs 50p any longer and the prices go to current levels.
but it wont happen because that would be common sense
the simple answer to encourage shoppers into weymouth is reasonable short term parking ie 1hr 20p 2hrs 50p any longer and the prices go to current levels. but it wont happen because that would be common sense portland rebel
  • Score: 0

2:18pm Fri 5 Oct 12

UpweyGardener says...

I too am please to see that the Council plans to reform parking in the Borough.

I am less happy, however, to note that it has taken Christine James several years to get to this point, at a time when, frankly, our town centre is dying on its a*se.

Even more concerning is the wholesale omission from the article of any discussion about funding. It is a hard truth that car parking represents one of the Borough's primary sources of revenue; how does Christine James suppose to plug the revenue gap?

The Council (unwisely in my opinion) has for two years refused to sensibly discuss the long-term impact of the Council tax freeze, at a time when Dorset's central settlement has decreased. We are already starting to see a drop in service provision, whilst some facilities and services in the Borough have closed altogether.

I am relieved to see the Council approaching the issue of parking, which undoubtedly has affected custom, but we need to see our Councillors talking openly and sensibly about the long-term impacts of this revenue cut and the ways that can be mitigated.
I too am please to see that the Council plans to reform parking in the Borough. I am less happy, however, to note that it has taken Christine James several years to get to this point, at a time when, frankly, our town centre is dying on its a*se. Even more concerning is the wholesale omission from the article of any discussion about funding. It is a hard truth that car parking represents one of the Borough's primary sources of revenue; how does Christine James suppose to plug the revenue gap? The Council (unwisely in my opinion) has for two years refused to sensibly discuss the long-term impact of the Council tax freeze, at a time when Dorset's central settlement has decreased. We are already starting to see a drop in service provision, whilst some facilities and services in the Borough have closed altogether. I am relieved to see the Council approaching the issue of parking, which undoubtedly has affected custom, but we need to see our Councillors talking openly and sensibly about the long-term impacts of this revenue cut and the ways that can be mitigated. UpweyGardener
  • Score: 1

4:30pm Fri 5 Oct 12

islandchick says...

If you work in town over three hours on min wage £6.00 approx the cost of parking for that time is £5.20 !!
and most car parks are max stay of 3hours

Why?
If you work in town over three hours on min wage £6.00 approx the cost of parking for that time is £5.20 !! and most car parks are max stay of 3hours Why? islandchick
  • Score: 1

4:53pm Fri 5 Oct 12

radiator says...

I think Weymouth missed the boat when they turned Butlins down many years ago it would have brought many more visitors and shoppers to Weymouth and it would have been somewhere to have visited on a rainy day.So what might you ask has this got to do with the car parking charges?, there would have been more retail shops and business attracted to the town hence more income generated and the car parking could have been kept at a reasonable level, but instead the council have driven out numerous shop owners from the town due to high parking charges.
I think Weymouth missed the boat when they turned Butlins down many years ago it would have brought many more visitors and shoppers to Weymouth and it would have been somewhere to have visited on a rainy day.So what might you ask has this got to do with the car parking charges?, there would have been more retail shops and business attracted to the town hence more income generated and the car parking could have been kept at a reasonable level, but instead the council have driven out numerous shop owners from the town due to high parking charges. radiator
  • Score: -1

6:19pm Fri 5 Oct 12

portlandboy says...

annotator1 wrote:
This is just a wholesale copy of Bournemouth who, incidentally, got it right many years ago!
Would it not be more economic to copy a working system rather than spend time and money apparently coming up with ideas that may or may not work?
Are you completely mad???
To suggest that the councillors should not meet and spend time planning, the planners should not peruse new plans and adapt them for the worse is going leave us with something that will work well and cost much less than it otherwise could.
Ideas like that are just going to create a council tax surplus and leave us all wondering what to do with the money. The lights might even get switched back on in time. Eventually it could see the end of financial woes and leave us with nothing but praise for the council!
[quote][p][bold]annotator1[/bold] wrote: This is just a wholesale copy of Bournemouth who, incidentally, got it right many years ago! Would it not be more economic to copy a working system rather than spend time and money apparently coming up with ideas that may or may not work?[/p][/quote]Are you completely mad??? To suggest that the councillors should not meet and spend time planning, the planners should not peruse new plans and adapt them for the worse is going leave us with something that will work well and cost much less than it otherwise could. Ideas like that are just going to create a council tax surplus and leave us all wondering what to do with the money. The lights might even get switched back on in time. Eventually it could see the end of financial woes and leave us with nothing but praise for the council! portlandboy
  • Score: 1

2:42pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Andy Blackwood says...

Censorship BY the press??
The Labour Group of councillors wanted to respond to this story in the Echo. So we sent them a press release. Amazingly they decided it was "too political" for you to be allowed to read. And yet our local MPs are allowed a weekly column to express their personal, very political, views about all manner of subjects?
Anyway here's the press release. Hope some of you get to see it before it's removed by the Echo:

Rachel Rogers, Labour councillor for Littlemoor, has criticised Liberal Democrat Councillor Christine James, Briefholder for Parking, for misleading Weymouth residents over her so-called ‘revolutionary’ car parking changes.

“Councillor James has been promising this review for several years now,” said Councillor Rogers. “To date, she has failed to deliver and that’s had disastrous consequences for our town centre, as is shown by the growing number of white window and empty shops.”
Councillor Rogers, who was elected in May 2012, continued by saying: “In the current economic climate, ordinary families are feeling the pinch to the point that people can no longer afford to shop in Weymouth, preferring to drive to Dorchester or even Bournemouth. The Council, and in particular the Tories, who have been in charge for several years now, must admit that they’ve shilly-shallied too long on this issue, to the extent that even retail giants such as Next and Topshop are leaving town. What next? Debenhams? It is simply not acceptable that it has taken so long for Councillor James to launch this review.”
Councillor Rogers expressed further concerns about the impact of these reforms on council-tax payers: “Can Councillor James tell residents how the finance gap resulting from a cut in car-parking charges is going to be plugged?”
“Reforming the Borough’s car-parking is an absolute priority,” Councillor Rogers continued, “but the Council must be honest about the impact of these changes. Cutting car-parking charges will result in a loss of revenue for the Borough. Unless alternative revenue streams can be found, which could include an increase in council taxes, other vital services provided by the Council, including those used by vulnerable people such as the elderly and the disabled, might be hit.”
Councillor Rogers finished by saying: “In these circumstances it is only fair that, as part of her intended consultation, Councillor James is open and honest with residents about how the reforms will be funded and what the parking shake-up might actually mean for them.”
Censorship BY the press?? The Labour Group of councillors wanted to respond to this story in the Echo. So we sent them a press release. Amazingly they decided it was "too political" for you to be allowed to read. And yet our local MPs are allowed a weekly column to express their personal, very political, views about all manner of subjects? Anyway here's the press release. Hope some of you get to see it before it's removed by the Echo: Rachel Rogers, Labour councillor for Littlemoor, has criticised Liberal Democrat Councillor Christine James, Briefholder for Parking, for misleading Weymouth residents over her so-called ‘revolutionary’ car parking changes. “Councillor James has been promising this review for several years now,” said Councillor Rogers. “To date, she has failed to deliver and that’s had disastrous consequences for our town centre, as is shown by the growing number of white window and empty shops.” Councillor Rogers, who was elected in May 2012, continued by saying: “In the current economic climate, ordinary families are feeling the pinch to the point that people can no longer afford to shop in Weymouth, preferring to drive to Dorchester or even Bournemouth. The Council, and in particular the Tories, who have been in charge for several years now, must admit that they’ve shilly-shallied too long on this issue, to the extent that even retail giants such as Next and Topshop are leaving town. What next? Debenhams? It is simply not acceptable that it has taken so long for Councillor James to launch this review.” Councillor Rogers expressed further concerns about the impact of these reforms on council-tax payers: “Can Councillor James tell residents how the finance gap resulting from a cut in car-parking charges is going to be plugged?” “Reforming the Borough’s car-parking is an absolute priority,” Councillor Rogers continued, “but the Council must be honest about the impact of these changes. Cutting car-parking charges will result in a loss of revenue for the Borough. Unless alternative revenue streams can be found, which could include an increase in council taxes, other vital services provided by the Council, including those used by vulnerable people such as the elderly and the disabled, might be hit.” Councillor Rogers finished by saying: “In these circumstances it is only fair that, as part of her intended consultation, Councillor James is open and honest with residents about how the reforms will be funded and what the parking shake-up might actually mean for them.” Andy Blackwood
  • Score: 1

8:43am Mon 8 Oct 12

UpweyGardener says...

Andy Blackwood wrote:
Censorship BY the press?? The Labour Group of councillors wanted to respond to this story in the Echo. So we sent them a press release. Amazingly they decided it was "too political" for you to be allowed to read. And yet our local MPs are allowed a weekly column to express their personal, very political, views about all manner of subjects? Anyway here's the press release. Hope some of you get to see it before it's removed by the Echo: Rachel Rogers, Labour councillor for Littlemoor, has criticised Liberal Democrat Councillor Christine James, Briefholder for Parking, for misleading Weymouth residents over her so-called ‘revolutionary’ car parking changes. “Councillor James has been promising this review for several years now,” said Councillor Rogers. “To date, she has failed to deliver and that’s had disastrous consequences for our town centre, as is shown by the growing number of white window and empty shops.” Councillor Rogers, who was elected in May 2012, continued by saying: “In the current economic climate, ordinary families are feeling the pinch to the point that people can no longer afford to shop in Weymouth, preferring to drive to Dorchester or even Bournemouth. The Council, and in particular the Tories, who have been in charge for several years now, must admit that they’ve shilly-shallied too long on this issue, to the extent that even retail giants such as Next and Topshop are leaving town. What next? Debenhams? It is simply not acceptable that it has taken so long for Councillor James to launch this review.” Councillor Rogers expressed further concerns about the impact of these reforms on council-tax payers: “Can Councillor James tell residents how the finance gap resulting from a cut in car-parking charges is going to be plugged?” “Reforming the Borough’s car-parking is an absolute priority,” Councillor Rogers continued, “but the Council must be honest about the impact of these changes. Cutting car-parking charges will result in a loss of revenue for the Borough. Unless alternative revenue streams can be found, which could include an increase in council taxes, other vital services provided by the Council, including those used by vulnerable people such as the elderly and the disabled, might be hit.” Councillor Rogers finished by saying: “In these circumstances it is only fair that, as part of her intended consultation, Councillor James is open and honest with residents about how the reforms will be funded and what the parking shake-up might actually mean for them.”
I am glad that, finally, a councillor has the good sense to stand apart from her colleagues and be honest about what is happening.
[quote][p][bold]Andy Blackwood[/bold] wrote: Censorship BY the press?? The Labour Group of councillors wanted to respond to this story in the Echo. So we sent them a press release. Amazingly they decided it was "too political" for you to be allowed to read. And yet our local MPs are allowed a weekly column to express their personal, very political, views about all manner of subjects? Anyway here's the press release. Hope some of you get to see it before it's removed by the Echo: Rachel Rogers, Labour councillor for Littlemoor, has criticised Liberal Democrat Councillor Christine James, Briefholder for Parking, for misleading Weymouth residents over her so-called ‘revolutionary’ car parking changes. “Councillor James has been promising this review for several years now,” said Councillor Rogers. “To date, she has failed to deliver and that’s had disastrous consequences for our town centre, as is shown by the growing number of white window and empty shops.” Councillor Rogers, who was elected in May 2012, continued by saying: “In the current economic climate, ordinary families are feeling the pinch to the point that people can no longer afford to shop in Weymouth, preferring to drive to Dorchester or even Bournemouth. The Council, and in particular the Tories, who have been in charge for several years now, must admit that they’ve shilly-shallied too long on this issue, to the extent that even retail giants such as Next and Topshop are leaving town. What next? Debenhams? It is simply not acceptable that it has taken so long for Councillor James to launch this review.” Councillor Rogers expressed further concerns about the impact of these reforms on council-tax payers: “Can Councillor James tell residents how the finance gap resulting from a cut in car-parking charges is going to be plugged?” “Reforming the Borough’s car-parking is an absolute priority,” Councillor Rogers continued, “but the Council must be honest about the impact of these changes. Cutting car-parking charges will result in a loss of revenue for the Borough. Unless alternative revenue streams can be found, which could include an increase in council taxes, other vital services provided by the Council, including those used by vulnerable people such as the elderly and the disabled, might be hit.” Councillor Rogers finished by saying: “In these circumstances it is only fair that, as part of her intended consultation, Councillor James is open and honest with residents about how the reforms will be funded and what the parking shake-up might actually mean for them.”[/p][/quote]I am glad that, finally, a councillor has the good sense to stand apart from her colleagues and be honest about what is happening. UpweyGardener
  • Score: 1

9:45am Mon 8 Oct 12

Andy Blackwood says...

Not just a single councillor UpweyGardener. This is the response from the group of 11 Labour councillors with Rachel Rogers acting as our spokesperson in this case.
Very often people moan about "the council" as if we all agree on everything. The largest group on the Council are Conservatives and they are generally supported by the Lib Dems. As Labour councillors we are trying to mount an effective opposition to many of their ideas but it's not helped when the Echo refuses to let its readers know about it!
Not just a single councillor UpweyGardener. This is the response from the group of 11 Labour councillors with Rachel Rogers acting as our spokesperson in this case. Very often people moan about "the council" as if we all agree on everything. The largest group on the Council are Conservatives and they are generally supported by the Lib Dems. As Labour councillors we are trying to mount an effective opposition to many of their ideas but it's not helped when the Echo refuses to let its readers know about it! Andy Blackwood
  • Score: 1

6:45pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Ian J says...

Andy Blackwood wrote:
Not just a single councillor UpweyGardener. This is the response from the group of 11 Labour councillors with Rachel Rogers acting as our spokesperson in this case. Very often people moan about "the council" as if we all agree on everything. The largest group on the Council are Conservatives and they are generally supported by the Lib Dems. As Labour councillors we are trying to mount an effective opposition to many of their ideas but it's not helped when the Echo refuses to let its readers know about it!
Is this the same Rachel Rogers who happens to be running as a candidate in the forthcoming election for The Police and crime commissioner in Dorset. And here was I thinking that there was a Purdah period!!!!
Good old Labour, jump at any chance to make out that they are the saviours of Weymouth again. Councillor Rogers was elected less than 6 months ago. With what knowledge does she base her accusations on??
The Labour group well know that our number one priority is the Economy of the borough. I believe that this goes some way to helping our businesses as do numerous other ideas that our new parking manager has.
Stop trying to score political points. Try doing something positive rather than argue because you can!!!!!
Remember the Good old days when Labour were the largest group on the Council?? 50 % Council tax increase! I don't think so.
[quote][p][bold]Andy Blackwood[/bold] wrote: Not just a single councillor UpweyGardener. This is the response from the group of 11 Labour councillors with Rachel Rogers acting as our spokesperson in this case. Very often people moan about "the council" as if we all agree on everything. The largest group on the Council are Conservatives and they are generally supported by the Lib Dems. As Labour councillors we are trying to mount an effective opposition to many of their ideas but it's not helped when the Echo refuses to let its readers know about it![/p][/quote]Is this the same Rachel Rogers who happens to be running as a candidate in the forthcoming election for The Police and crime commissioner in Dorset. And here was I thinking that there was a Purdah period!!!! Good old Labour, jump at any chance to make out that they are the saviours of Weymouth again. Councillor Rogers was elected less than 6 months ago. With what knowledge does she base her accusations on?? The Labour group well know that our number one priority is the Economy of the borough. I believe that this goes some way to helping our businesses as do numerous other ideas that our new parking manager has. Stop trying to score political points. Try doing something positive rather than argue because you can!!!!! Remember the Good old days when Labour were the largest group on the Council?? 50 % Council tax increase! I don't think so. Ian J
  • Score: -1

8:06pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Andy Blackwood says...

Really glad that you're avoiding political points scoring there Ian!
Also very pleased the economy of the borough is your number one priority - how do you think it's going so far?
Really glad that you're avoiding political points scoring there Ian! Also very pleased the economy of the borough is your number one priority - how do you think it's going so far? Andy Blackwood
  • Score: 1

9:00pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Rodwell_Rage says...

Ian J wrote:
Andy Blackwood wrote:
Not just a single councillor UpweyGardener. This is the response from the group of 11 Labour councillors with Rachel Rogers acting as our spokesperson in this case. Very often people moan about "the council" as if we all agree on everything. The largest group on the Council are Conservatives and they are generally supported by the Lib Dems. As Labour councillors we are trying to mount an effective opposition to many of their ideas but it's not helped when the Echo refuses to let its readers know about it!
Is this the same Rachel Rogers who happens to be running as a candidate in the forthcoming election for The Police and crime commissioner in Dorset. And here was I thinking that there was a Purdah period!!!!
Good old Labour, jump at any chance to make out that they are the saviours of Weymouth again. Councillor Rogers was elected less than 6 months ago. With what knowledge does she base her accusations on??
The Labour group well know that our number one priority is the Economy of the borough. I believe that this goes some way to helping our businesses as do numerous other ideas that our new parking manager has.
Stop trying to score political points. Try doing something positive rather than argue because you can!!!!!
Remember the Good old days when Labour were the largest group on the Council?? 50 % Council tax increase! I don't think so.
For the PCC elections Purdah did not begin until 8th October.
[quote][p][bold]Ian J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy Blackwood[/bold] wrote: Not just a single councillor UpweyGardener. This is the response from the group of 11 Labour councillors with Rachel Rogers acting as our spokesperson in this case. Very often people moan about "the council" as if we all agree on everything. The largest group on the Council are Conservatives and they are generally supported by the Lib Dems. As Labour councillors we are trying to mount an effective opposition to many of their ideas but it's not helped when the Echo refuses to let its readers know about it![/p][/quote]Is this the same Rachel Rogers who happens to be running as a candidate in the forthcoming election for The Police and crime commissioner in Dorset. And here was I thinking that there was a Purdah period!!!! Good old Labour, jump at any chance to make out that they are the saviours of Weymouth again. Councillor Rogers was elected less than 6 months ago. With what knowledge does she base her accusations on?? The Labour group well know that our number one priority is the Economy of the borough. I believe that this goes some way to helping our businesses as do numerous other ideas that our new parking manager has. Stop trying to score political points. Try doing something positive rather than argue because you can!!!!! Remember the Good old days when Labour were the largest group on the Council?? 50 % Council tax increase! I don't think so.[/p][/quote]For the PCC elections Purdah did not begin until 8th October. Rodwell_Rage
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