Choosing lasers is poor judgement (From Dorset Echo)

That's your opinion of course. What about those that don't made the change, don't their opinions count?

As to the hazard to local shipping, yeah, right.

Genghis wrote:
That's your opinion of course. What about those that don't made the change, don't their opinions count?

As to the hazard to local shipping, yeah, right.

Sorry "made" should read as "mind" shouldn't change thoughts mid-flow.

If you don't like the lasers then I don't like the TV mast at Wyke Regis.

Spoils the views, I say bring it down. So what if you lose your TV signal!

I love the new Lasers - far better than those 1950's fairly lights. I mean, for goodness sake - Fairy lights ???? Reminds me of Billy Butlins, Hi-De-Hi, Cheap and tacky. Whereas the new Lasers are fabulous. I love them.

Joan Edgington & I Millin - valid comments but apparently as soon as someone posts a letter in this vein the woodwork gives and the letters come up contradicting,
Is this not a free forum, do not people have the right to a say?
As for the comments about the 1950s, coupled with the words "cheap and tacky" thats got to be a joke, theres nowt so "cheap and tacky" as parts of so-called modern Britain, why do we have to be led by the modernists and designers? Why do comments on this forum draw the replies they get? It seems to this outsider that anything but the prescribed comment forces a "feeding frenzy" including sadly, bullying and ridicule + of course the cheap jibes and parochial remarks, why? in this age of "free speech" one should be able to post an opinion! good on the two aforesaid posters - now stand by for all the abuse this gets - no gratuitous "caps", no rant, the sad buggers'll find something- watch this space!!!

oldbrock wrote:
Joan Edgington & I Millin - valid comments but apparently as soon as someone posts a letter in this vein the woodwork gives and the letters come up contradicting,
Is this not a free forum, do not people have the right to a say?
As for the comments about the 1950s, coupled with the words "cheap and tacky" thats got to be a joke, theres nowt so "cheap and tacky" as parts of so-called modern Britain, why do we have to be led by the modernists and designers? Why do comments on this forum draw the replies they get? It seems to this outsider that anything but the prescribed comment forces a "feeding frenzy" including sadly, bullying and ridicule + of course the cheap jibes and parochial remarks, why? in this age of "free speech" one should be able to post an opinion! good on the two aforesaid posters - now stand by for all the abuse this gets - no gratuitous "caps", no rant, the sad buggers'll find something- watch this space!!!

Your opinion is invalid and unwanted because you are short on apostrophes.
:-).

oldbrock wrote:
Joan Edgington & I Millin - valid comments but apparently as soon as someone posts a letter in this vein the woodwork gives and the letters come up contradicting,
Is this not a free forum, do not people have the right to a say?
As for the comments about the 1950s, coupled with the words "cheap and tacky" thats got to be a joke, theres nowt so "cheap and tacky" as parts of so-called modern Britain, why do we have to be led by the modernists and designers? Why do comments on this forum draw the replies they get? It seems to this outsider that anything but the prescribed comment forces a "feeding frenzy" including sadly, bullying and ridicule + of course the cheap jibes and parochial remarks, why? in this age of "free speech" one should be able to post an opinion! good on the two aforesaid posters - now stand by for all the abuse this gets - no gratuitous "caps", no rant, the sad buggers'll find something- watch this space!!!

It could be that many actually like whats happening to Weymouth and are sick and tired of those who dont want change. People move to weymouth to die and dont want change, they want to recapture their memories of the "good ol times" to the detrimental affect of those who have always lived here and would like to see progression.

marabout wrote:
I love the new Lasers - far better than those 1950's fairly lights. I mean, for goodness sake - Fairy lights ???? Reminds me of Billy Butlins, Hi-De-Hi, Cheap and tacky. Whereas the new Lasers are fabulous. I love them.

Fabulous ? Oh come on, please. Different certainly, interesting, for a short while possibly, but fabulous ? Hardly. And if you pick the wrong 6 minutes to walk along the seafront you don't see them at all.
Still each to their own, whatever rocks your boat.

Oldbrock – at the risk of being called a ‘sad bugger’, may I remind you of some remarks you have made recently - Lincoln is a County of incest, David Cameron is a school boy bully, idiots removed the pineapples, a local councillor is ‘well dyed in wool’, Lord Coe is a crawling, snivelling, lying, little creep, a Weymouth hotel has cheap muck, and people travelling to Portland for the Olympics are sailboat heads, a letter writer (who has a right to an opinion too) has been paid to spout – need I go on? Regardless of your views, the above reads as name calling, insults, cheap jibes as well as parochial remarks. Perhaps you should ask yourself why?

oldbrock wrote:
Joan Edgington & I Millin - valid comments but apparently as soon as someone posts a letter in this vein the woodwork gives and the letters come up contradicting,
Is this not a free forum, do not people have the right to a say?
As for the comments about the 1950s, coupled with the words "cheap and tacky" thats got to be a joke, theres nowt so "cheap and tacky" as parts of so-called modern Britain, why do we have to be led by the modernists and designers? Why do comments on this forum draw the replies they get? It seems to this outsider that anything but the prescribed comment forces a "feeding frenzy" including sadly, bullying and ridicule + of course the cheap jibes and parochial remarks, why? in this age of "free speech" one should be able to post an opinion! good on the two aforesaid posters - now stand by for all the abuse this gets - no gratuitous "caps", no rant, the sad buggers'll find something- watch this space!!!

Yes freedom of speech, it works both ways. It seems you and the letter writer think that only opinions similar to your own are allowed and the rest of us should sit idly by basking in the brilliance of what you say. Well I've had enough of people constantly running my home town down and I'll speak up for it. That is my freedom of speech.

Well said Genghis I've lived here since 1960 saw it go downhill but I am now pleased, it has become a really delightful place again

So who got the usual brown envelope?

PHonnor wrote:

oldbrock wrote:
Joan Edgington & I Millin - valid comments but apparently as soon as someone posts a letter in this vein the woodwork gives and the letters come up contradicting,
Is this not a free forum, do not people have the right to a say?
As for the comments about the 1950s, coupled with the words "cheap and tacky" thats got to be a joke, theres nowt so "cheap and tacky" as parts of so-called modern Britain, why do we have to be led by the modernists and designers? Why do comments on this forum draw the replies they get? It seems to this outsider that anything but the prescribed comment forces a "feeding frenzy" including sadly, bullying and ridicule + of course the cheap jibes and parochial remarks, why? in this age of "free speech" one should be able to post an opinion! good on the two aforesaid posters - now stand by for all the abuse this gets - no gratuitous "caps", no rant, the sad buggers'll find something- watch this space!!!

It could be that many actually like whats happening to Weymouth and are sick and tired of those who dont want change. People move to weymouth to die and dont want change, they want to recapture their memories of the "good ol times" to the detrimental affect of those who have always lived here and would like to see progression.

Change is ok if it's good.
However not all the changes have been good, and those that don't like them are just as entitled to voice their opinions of them as you are. It's called free speech, something many countries don't have.

I'mavoter wrote:

PHonnor wrote:

oldbrock wrote:
Joan Edgington & I Millin - valid comments but apparently as soon as someone posts a letter in this vein the woodwork gives and the letters come up contradicting,
Is this not a free forum, do not people have the right to a say?
As for the comments about the 1950s, coupled with the words "cheap and tacky" thats got to be a joke, theres nowt so "cheap and tacky" as parts of so-called modern Britain, why do we have to be led by the modernists and designers? Why do comments on this forum draw the replies they get? It seems to this outsider that anything but the prescribed comment forces a "feeding frenzy" including sadly, bullying and ridicule + of course the cheap jibes and parochial remarks, why? in this age of "free speech" one should be able to post an opinion! good on the two aforesaid posters - now stand by for all the abuse this gets - no gratuitous "caps", no rant, the sad buggers'll find something- watch this space!!!

It could be that many actually like whats happening to Weymouth and are sick and tired of those who dont want change. People move to weymouth to die and dont want change, they want to recapture their memories of the "good ol times" to the detrimental affect of those who have always lived here and would like to see progression.

Change is ok if it's good.
However not all the changes have been good, and those that don't like them are just as entitled to voice their opinions of them as you are. It's called free speech, something many countries don't have.

Who decides if its good or not?

PHonnor wrote:

I'mavoter wrote:

PHonnor wrote:

oldbrock wrote:
Joan Edgington & I Millin - valid comments but apparently as soon as someone posts a letter in this vein the woodwork gives and the letters come up contradicting,
Is this not a free forum, do not people have the right to a say?
As for the comments about the 1950s, coupled with the words "cheap and tacky" thats got to be a joke, theres nowt so "cheap and tacky" as parts of so-called modern Britain, why do we have to be led by the modernists and designers? Why do comments on this forum draw the replies they get? It seems to this outsider that anything but the prescribed comment forces a "feeding frenzy" including sadly, bullying and ridicule + of course the cheap jibes and parochial remarks, why? in this age of "free speech" one should be able to post an opinion! good on the two aforesaid posters - now stand by for all the abuse this gets - no gratuitous "caps", no rant, the sad buggers'll find something- watch this space!!!

It could be that many actually like whats happening to Weymouth and are sick and tired of those who dont want change. People move to weymouth to die and dont want change, they want to recapture their memories of the "good ol times" to the detrimental affect of those who have always lived here and would like to see progression.

Change is ok if it's good.
However not all the changes have been good, and those that don't like them are just as entitled to voice their opinions of them as you are. It's called free speech, something many countries don't have.

Who decides if its good or not?

You apparently !
But those who don't agree with you are still entitled to voice their views.

JamesYoung wrote:

oldbrock wrote:
Joan Edgington & I Millin - valid comments but apparently as soon as someone posts a letter in this vein the woodwork gives and the letters come up contradicting,
Is this not a free forum, do not people have the right to a say?
As for the comments about the 1950s, coupled with the words "cheap and tacky" thats got to be a joke, theres nowt so "cheap and tacky" as parts of so-called modern Britain, why do we have to be led by the modernists and designers? Why do comments on this forum draw the replies they get? It seems to this outsider that anything but the prescribed comment forces a "feeding frenzy" including sadly, bullying and ridicule + of course the cheap jibes and parochial remarks, why? in this age of "free speech" one should be able to post an opinion! good on the two aforesaid posters - now stand by for all the abuse this gets - no gratuitous "caps", no rant, the sad buggers'll find something- watch this space!!!

Your opinion is invalid and unwanted because you are short on apostrophes.
:-).

and you sir, are "short on" manners and as such are invalid as a member of a free society?
see if you can make some other stupid comment to this! though with your obvious mentality it won't be too hard. Have a nice day, arzul

dirkpitt wrote:
Oldbrock – at the risk of being called a ‘sad bugger’, may I remind you of some remarks you have made recently - Lincoln is a County of incest, David Cameron is a school boy bully, idiots removed the pineapples, a local councillor is ‘well dyed in wool’, Lord Coe is a crawling, snivelling, lying, little creep, a Weymouth hotel has cheap muck, and people travelling to Portland for the Olympics are sailboat heads, a letter writer (who has a right to an opinion too) has been paid to spout – need I go on? Regardless of your views, the above reads as name calling, insults, cheap jibes as well as parochial remarks. Perhaps you should ask yourself why?

Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone?

Genghis wrote:

oldbrock wrote:
Joan Edgington & I Millin - valid comments but apparently as soon as someone posts a letter in this vein the woodwork gives and the letters come up contradicting,
Is this not a free forum, do not people have the right to a say?
As for the comments about the 1950s, coupled with the words "cheap and tacky" thats got to be a joke, theres nowt so "cheap and tacky" as parts of so-called modern Britain, why do we have to be led by the modernists and designers? Why do comments on this forum draw the replies they get? It seems to this outsider that anything but the prescribed comment forces a "feeding frenzy" including sadly, bullying and ridicule + of course the cheap jibes and parochial remarks, why? in this age of "free speech" one should be able to post an opinion! good on the two aforesaid posters - now stand by for all the abuse this gets - no gratuitous "caps", no rant, the sad buggers'll find something- watch this space!!!

Yes freedom of speech, it works both ways. It seems you and the letter writer think that only opinions similar to your own are allowed and the rest of us should sit idly by basking in the brilliance of what you say. Well I've had enough of people constantly running my home town down and I'll speak up for it. That is my freedom of speech.

One has to actually go outside to notice that it is cold, if you are happy, it seems then anybody else cannot have an opinion? just an observation......

oldbrock wrote:

dirkpitt wrote:
Oldbrock – at the risk of being called a ‘sad bugger’, may I remind you of some remarks you have made recently - Lincoln is a County of incest, David Cameron is a school boy bully, idiots removed the pineapples, a local councillor is ‘well dyed in wool’, Lord Coe is a crawling, snivelling, lying, little creep, a Weymouth hotel has cheap muck, and people travelling to Portland for the Olympics are sailboat heads, a letter writer (who has a right to an opinion too) has been paid to spout – need I go on? Regardless of your views, the above reads as name calling, insults, cheap jibes as well as parochial remarks. Perhaps you should ask yourself why?

Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone?

Ha ha, nice one 'oldbrock.'

Opinions, opinions, opinions! what about some facts. The fact is that Weymouth's tourism business has been declining for years for all sorts of reasons. Perhaps one of the reasons is that the town and particularly the seafront / esplanade was looking shabby and dated. Look at it now! A vast improvement on even 2 years ago!

We have ben advised by the council, people you voted for, that the costs to mainatin the old fairy lights was prohibitive. The very fact that they have taken a bold decision to try something new speaks volumes for me.
Why not give it a chance before running it, the town and the council down. Agreed not all things modern are necessarily progress, but equally not all things 'historic' are nostalgic and worth retaining.

Wow, cannot believe that some people think the lasers to be any good. Personally I think they are naff, as dull as dish water and not worth tuppence. They are hardly the kind of state of the art lighting that has been the feature of a Jean Michel Jarre concert or such. Some people have really low expectations.

sorry maximan, there are people out there who have a diferent opinion to you. I havent met one person yet who dislikes the laser lights and the columns.
My expectations of this council are to consider options, give new ideas a try and not to pander to the vociferous few who constantly seem to complain and moan. By my reckoning the petition of almost 1700 names is only just over 3% of Weymouth's population. Is this enough to justify taking up more council time to debate this subject all over again?

Dorsettraveller wrote:
sorry maximan, there are people out there who have a diferent opinion to you. I havent met one person yet who dislikes the laser lights and the columns.
My expectations of this council are to consider options, give new ideas a try and not to pander to the vociferous few who constantly seem to complain and moan. By my reckoning the petition of almost 1700 names is only just over 3% of Weymouth's population. Is this enough to justify taking up more council time to debate this subject all over again?

You haven't met many people then...I have heard way more negative comments than positive. It's not a change thing...it's a quality issue..So stop this annoying the moaners are the minority rhetoric..it's becoming boring and is fooling nobody

maximan, yet again your negative opinion shines through and you have misrepresented what I said. You have also made an assumption about me and meeting people which is completely wrong. You may have heard more negative comments, but I have heard none - fact - having spoken to many of people. Also why dont you give the lasers a chance, applaud councillors who are prepared to take bold decisions and try to move this town forward.

Dorsettraveller wrote:
maximan, yet again your negative opinion shines through and you have misrepresented what I said. You have also made an assumption about me and meeting people which is completely wrong. You may have heard more negative comments, but I have heard none - fact - having spoken to many of people. Also why dont you give the lasers a chance, applaud councillors who are prepared to take bold decisions and try to move this town forward.

dont make me laugh our councillors making bold decisions, they are just the lapdogs of wpdc.

I dont like lasers that much as they remind me of the lasers that cheap supermarkets and shopping malls use in their latest push for business in undeveloped countries...just crap and tacky.

If you think it's 'modern' you really need to get out more.

What no one seems to be saying is the lasers are apparently not permanent, having a lifespan of ten years, so what happens then?

Super lasers, lights on the prom.