SNOW LATEST: Traffic chaos easing but fears for more ice overnight (From Dorset Echo)

Esqui wrote:
I've seen two gritting lorries go past me in the last 10 minutes. Also, jobsworthwatch, there's something that seems a really bad idea about spraying roads with sea water in below-zero conditions...can't quite think what though

jobsworthwatch wrote:

Esqui wrote:
I've seen two gritting lorries go past me in the last 10 minutes. Also, jobsworthwatch, there's something that seems a really bad idea about spraying roads with sea water in below-zero conditions...can't quite think what though

Salt water can freeze as low as-20 C depending on the amount of salt.

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
The global warming brigade are a tad quiet these days

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
The global warming brigade are a tad quiet these days

jobsworthwatch wrote:
Since the start of this cold spell I've not seen a single gritting lorry and nothing that would indicate that gritting has been carried out anywhere within the town. Just what are our jobsworths doing, sitting back in their nice warm offices, (if they can be bothered to go in that is), convincing themselves it will all be gone by the morning. In previous years at least bus routes have been treated but now nothing it would appear. 'No excuses' (Where have I heard that) we are a town by the sea! Spray the roads with sea water and spread sand off the beach if necessary!

Glória wrote:

fedupwithjobsworths wrote: The global warming brigade are a tad quiet these days

Perhaps you should consider learning the difference between WEATHER and CLIMATE before making such silly comments? Dimwit.

DemonDiva wrote:
It would be better if the Echo link for Yellow Buses latest actually didn't go to the Facebook page for Wilts and Dorset buses!
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Royal Mail is entirely grounded according to our local depot in Broadstone. We can't get delivery or collections today.

osys missing teeth wrote:
Latest update for those of you who are still in bed its raining like mad and most of the snow is gone its 4 degrees in Wareham Forest

Glória wrote:

jobsworthwatch wrote: Since the start of this cold spell I've not seen a single gritting lorry and nothing that would indicate that gritting has been carried out anywhere within the town. Just what are our jobsworths doing, sitting back in their nice warm offices, (if they can be bothered to go in that is), convincing themselves it will all be gone by the morning. In previous years at least bus routes have been treated but now nothing it would appear. 'No excuses' (Where have I heard that) we are a town by the sea! Spray the roads with sea water and spread sand off the beach if necessary!

Well, they've gritted the main roads I've used - and they've sent teams to hand grit the pedestrian precinct. Not that it will magically remove thick snow anyway - a point some ill-informed ranters all seem to miss! . Perhaps, just perhaps, we should accept occasional snow disruption and adjust our own plans accordingly rather than expecting the local authority to magically remove all snow and ice? . Councils only have a limited number of gritters and staff, so there will only ever be the resources to treat the most important routes. It would be a ridiculous waste of money to buy enough equipment to treat every street when we only have this problem a few days a year on average. . Of course, if you wish to rant about "jobsworths" not pulling their weight, perhaps we also have the right to ask exactly what important contribution you're making to the economy that allows you to be whinging on the Echo website at 9.50 on a working day? :-)

Piston_Broke wrote:

fedupwithjobsworths wrote: The global warming brigade are a tad quiet these days

One of the consequences of Global warming is the dilution of the salinity of the North Atlantic. If the salinity is reduced enough, there is the potential to slow or stop Thermohaline Circulation, and the result of this in the UK is dramatically reduced temperatures.

jobsworthwatch wrote:

Glória wrote:

jobsworthwatch wrote: Since the start of this cold spell I've not seen a single gritting lorry and nothing that would indicate that gritting has been carried out anywhere within the town. Just what are our jobsworths doing, sitting back in their nice warm offices, (if they can be bothered to go in that is), convincing themselves it will all be gone by the morning. In previous years at least bus routes have been treated but now nothing it would appear. 'No excuses' (Where have I heard that) we are a town by the sea! Spray the roads with sea water and spread sand off the beach if necessary!

Well, they've gritted the main roads I've used - and they've sent teams to hand grit the pedestrian precinct. Not that it will magically remove thick snow anyway - a point some ill-informed ranters all seem to miss! . Perhaps, just perhaps, we should accept occasional snow disruption and adjust our own plans accordingly rather than expecting the local authority to magically remove all snow and ice? . Councils only have a limited number of gritters and staff, so there will only ever be the resources to treat the most important routes. It would be a ridiculous waste of money to buy enough equipment to treat every street when we only have this problem a few days a year on average. . Of course, if you wish to rant about "jobsworths" not pulling their weight, perhaps we also have the right to ask exactly what important contribution you're making to the economy that allows you to be whinging on the Echo website at 9.50 on a working day? :-)

I have my own business engaged in the manufacture of high tec scientific instruments for use in green power generation. However I seem to spend most of my time engaged in a constant struggle against bureaucratic jobsworths, 'elf and safety, paying extortionate business rates and central government taxes. My normal 8 min journey to work this morning took 1 hour because the council were incapable of ensuring the principle roads in the conurbation were clear of 2 ins of snow when people had to go to work. Let me guess what you do...you must be one of them!

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
The global warming brigade are a tad quiet these days

Wintonian wrote:

jobsworthwatch wrote:

Glória wrote:

jobsworthwatch wrote: Since the start of this cold spell I've not seen a single gritting lorry and nothing that would indicate that gritting has been carried out anywhere within the town. Just what are our jobsworths doing, sitting back in their nice warm offices, (if they can be bothered to go in that is), convincing themselves it will all be gone by the morning. In previous years at least bus routes have been treated but now nothing it would appear. 'No excuses' (Where have I heard that) we are a town by the sea! Spray the roads with sea water and spread sand off the beach if necessary!

Well, they've gritted the main roads I've used - and they've sent teams to hand grit the pedestrian precinct. Not that it will magically remove thick snow anyway - a point some ill-informed ranters all seem to miss! . Perhaps, just perhaps, we should accept occasional snow disruption and adjust our own plans accordingly rather than expecting the local authority to magically remove all snow and ice? . Councils only have a limited number of gritters and staff, so there will only ever be the resources to treat the most important routes. It would be a ridiculous waste of money to buy enough equipment to treat every street when we only have this problem a few days a year on average. . Of course, if you wish to rant about "jobsworths" not pulling their weight, perhaps we also have the right to ask exactly what important contribution you're making to the economy that allows you to be whinging on the Echo website at 9.50 on a working day? :-)

I have my own business engaged in the manufacture of high tec scientific instruments for use in green power generation. However I seem to spend most of my time engaged in a constant struggle against bureaucratic jobsworths, 'elf and safety, paying extortionate business rates and central government taxes. My normal 8 min journey to work this morning took 1 hour because the council were incapable of ensuring the principle roads in the conurbation were clear of 2 ins of snow when people had to go to work. Let me guess what you do...you must be one of them!

Perhaps your journey took 1 hour not because the Council failed to keep the roads clear, but because people were taking a bit more time in difficult conditions. If the gritters hadn't been out, you would have been going nowhere.

Duckorange wrote:

fedupwithjobsworths wrote: The global warming brigade are a tad quiet these days

Poor, wrong fedupwithjobsworths . Pay attention: Global warming results in extreme weather. Hot summers. Cold winters. More storms. Guess which bit we're having now?

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:

Duckorange wrote:

fedupwithjobsworths wrote: The global warming brigade are a tad quiet these days

Poor, wrong fedupwithjobsworths . Pay attention: Global warming results in extreme weather. Hot summers. Cold winters. More storms. Guess which bit we're having now?

Poor, wrong Duckorange.
.

It's you who should pay attention ...... my post was in jest as stated in a previous post of mine. Get a sense of humour!

Duckorange wrote:

fedupwithjobsworths wrote: The global warming brigade are a tad quiet these days

Poor, wrong fedupwithjobsworths . Pay attention: Global warming results in extreme weather. Hot summers. Cold winters. More storms. Guess which bit we're having now?

loftusrod wrote:
Took me 20 minutes to get from Bearwood to Bbournemouth - l simply cycled.

ry8000 wrote:

loftusrod wrote: Took me 20 minutes to get from Bearwood to Bbournemouth - l simply cycled.

Bloody cyclists... an old man on a bike yelled at me when I was walking home the other day. He may have been saying hello, but he was probably being aggressive. I'll assume the latter. They become monsters the second they get on a bike. For that reason I shake my fist at them whenever possible...

loftusrod wrote:

ry8000 wrote:

loftusrod wrote: Took me 20 minutes to get from Bearwood to Bbournemouth - l simply cycled.

Bloody cyclists... an old man on a bike yelled at me when I was walking home the other day. He may have been saying hello, but he was probably being aggressive. I'll assume the latter. They become monsters the second they get on a bike. For that reason I shake my fist at them whenever possible...

l bet you're one of those pedestrians that like to walk in cycle lanes.

ry8000 wrote:

loftusrod wrote:

ry8000 wrote:

loftusrod wrote: Took me 20 minutes to get from Bearwood to Bbournemouth - l simply cycled.

Bloody cyclists... an old man on a bike yelled at me when I was walking home the other day. He may have been saying hello, but he was probably being aggressive. I'll assume the latter. They become monsters the second they get on a bike. For that reason I shake my fist at them whenever possible...

l bet you're one of those pedestrians that like to walk in cycle lanes.

I'll walk where I jolly well like. You're probably one of those indecent short wearing buffoons that thinks they own the asphalt!

loftusrod wrote:

ry8000 wrote:

loftusrod wrote:

ry8000 wrote:

loftusrod wrote: Took me 20 minutes to get from Bearwood to Bbournemouth - l simply cycled.

Bloody cyclists... an old man on a bike yelled at me when I was walking home the other day. He may have been saying hello, but he was probably being aggressive. I'll assume the latter. They become monsters the second they get on a bike. For that reason I shake my fist at them whenever possible...

l bet you're one of those pedestrians that like to walk in cycle lanes.

I'll walk where I jolly well like. You're probably one of those indecent short wearing buffoons that thinks they own the asphalt!

Nutter.

rach74 wrote:
cycle lanes on the paths and roads, they should start having to pay a tax

ry8000 wrote:

loftusrod wrote: Took me 20 minutes to get from Bearwood to Bbournemouth - l simply cycled.

Bloody cyclists... an old man on a bike yelled at me when I was walking home the other day. He may have been saying hello, but he was probably being aggressive. I'll assume the latter. They become monsters the second they get on a bike. For that reason I shake my fist at them whenever possible...

rach74 wrote:
cycle lanes on the paths and roads, they should start having to pay a tax

jobsworthwatch wrote:

Glória wrote:

jobsworthwatch wrote: Since the start of this cold spell I've not seen a single gritting lorry and nothing that would indicate that gritting has been carried out anywhere within the town. Just what are our jobsworths doing, sitting back in their nice warm offices, (if they can be bothered to go in that is), convincing themselves it will all be gone by the morning. In previous years at least bus routes have been treated but now nothing it would appear. 'No excuses' (Where have I heard that) we are a town by the sea! Spray the roads with sea water and spread sand off the beach if necessary!

Well, they've gritted the main roads I've used - and they've sent teams to hand grit the pedestrian precinct. Not that it will magically remove thick snow anyway - a point some ill-informed ranters all seem to miss! . Perhaps, just perhaps, we should accept occasional snow disruption and adjust our own plans accordingly rather than expecting the local authority to magically remove all snow and ice? . Councils only have a limited number of gritters and staff, so there will only ever be the resources to treat the most important routes. It would be a ridiculous waste of money to buy enough equipment to treat every street when we only have this problem a few days a year on average. . Of course, if you wish to rant about "jobsworths" not pulling their weight, perhaps we also have the right to ask exactly what important contribution you're making to the economy that allows you to be whinging on the Echo website at 9.50 on a working day? :-)

I have my own business engaged in the manufacture of high tec scientific instruments for use in green power generation. However I seem to spend most of my time engaged in a constant struggle against bureaucratic jobsworths, 'elf and safety, paying extortionate business rates and central government taxes. My normal 8 min journey to work this morning took 1 hour because the council were incapable of ensuring the principle roads in the conurbation were clear of 2 ins of snow when people had to go to work. Let me guess what you do...you must be one of them!

WIGGINSv wrote:

jobsworthwatch wrote:

Glória wrote:

jobsworthwatch wrote: Since the start of this cold spell I've not seen a single gritting lorry and nothing that would indicate that gritting has been carried out anywhere within the town. Just what are our jobsworths doing, sitting back in their nice warm offices, (if they can be bothered to go in that is), convincing themselves it will all be gone by the morning. In previous years at least bus routes have been treated but now nothing it would appear. 'No excuses' (Where have I heard that) we are a town by the sea! Spray the roads with sea water and spread sand off the beach if necessary!

Well, they've gritted the main roads I've used - and they've sent teams to hand grit the pedestrian precinct. Not that it will magically remove thick snow anyway - a point some ill-informed ranters all seem to miss! . Perhaps, just perhaps, we should accept occasional snow disruption and adjust our own plans accordingly rather than expecting the local authority to magically remove all snow and ice? . Councils only have a limited number of gritters and staff, so there will only ever be the resources to treat the most important routes. It would be a ridiculous waste of money to buy enough equipment to treat every street when we only have this problem a few days a year on average. . Of course, if you wish to rant about "jobsworths" not pulling their weight, perhaps we also have the right to ask exactly what important contribution you're making to the economy that allows you to be whinging on the Echo website at 9.50 on a working day? :-)

I have my own business engaged in the manufacture of high tec scientific instruments for use in green power generation. However I seem to spend most of my time engaged in a constant struggle against bureaucratic jobsworths, 'elf and safety, paying extortionate business rates and central government taxes. My normal 8 min journey to work this morning took 1 hour because the council were incapable of ensuring the principle roads in the conurbation were clear of 2 ins of snow when people had to go to work. Let me guess what you do...you must be one of them!

The council have to adhere to 'elf & safety ' as well - probably more so - which is why bins are unemptied. Gritting is going on 24 hours. Just position yourself with a flask and sandwiches outside the Southcote Road Depot, and watch for yourself.

jobsworthwatch wrote:

WIGGINSv wrote:

jobsworthwatch wrote:

Glória wrote:

jobsworthwatch wrote: Since the start of this cold spell I've not seen a single gritting lorry and nothing that would indicate that gritting has been carried out anywhere within the town. Just what are our jobsworths doing, sitting back in their nice warm offices, (if they can be bothered to go in that is), convincing themselves it will all be gone by the morning. In previous years at least bus routes have been treated but now nothing it would appear. 'No excuses' (Where have I heard that) we are a town by the sea! Spray the roads with sea water and spread sand off the beach if necessary!

Well, they've gritted the main roads I've used - and they've sent teams to hand grit the pedestrian precinct. Not that it will magically remove thick snow anyway - a point some ill-informed ranters all seem to miss! . Perhaps, just perhaps, we should accept occasional snow disruption and adjust our own plans accordingly rather than expecting the local authority to magically remove all snow and ice? . Councils only have a limited number of gritters and staff, so there will only ever be the resources to treat the most important routes. It would be a ridiculous waste of money to buy enough equipment to treat every street when we only have this problem a few days a year on average. . Of course, if you wish to rant about "jobsworths" not pulling their weight, perhaps we also have the right to ask exactly what important contribution you're making to the economy that allows you to be whinging on the Echo website at 9.50 on a working day? :-)

I have my own business engaged in the manufacture of high tec scientific instruments for use in green power generation. However I seem to spend most of my time engaged in a constant struggle against bureaucratic jobsworths, 'elf and safety, paying extortionate business rates and central government taxes. My normal 8 min journey to work this morning took 1 hour because the council were incapable of ensuring the principle roads in the conurbation were clear of 2 ins of snow when people had to go to work. Let me guess what you do...you must be one of them!

The council have to adhere to 'elf & safety ' as well - probably more so - which is why bins are unemptied. Gritting is going on 24 hours. Just position yourself with a flask and sandwiches outside the Southcote Road Depot, and watch for yourself.

No need, what ever it was they were doing this morning, it was totally inadequate and ineffective. Unless of course they took the police advice 'not to travel and stay in doors'. As for 'elf & safety', I remember in 62/63 seeing roads being gritted by 2 men in stood in the back of a lorry shoveling the stuff over the back.