Debate rages on about the potential of community ownership at Dorchester Town

PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE: The Magpies are considering a switch to community ownership PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE: The Magpies are considering a switch to community ownership

THE debate surrounding Dorchester Town FC’s potential transfer to community ownership rages on with John Greenslade and Philip Basford the latest to air their views.

Dorchester Town Community Trust chairman Greenslade believes the proposed move offers many benefits and will protect the long-term future of the club, while Basford is concerned about the detrimental effect it could have on Dorchester Town Youth FC.

Below Greenslade outlines his thoughts in a Trust statement while Basford gives his views in a letter sent to Echosport.

TRUST SEE THE BENEFITS IN MAGPIES' SHARE TRANSFER (Trust statement)

THE recent proposed share transfer from Shaun Hearn to the Dorchester Town Community Trust will result in benefits for the football club, the local community, supporters, Dorchester Town Youth FC and local businesses.

Work is progressing to achieve the shares handover, with the club, Trust and Dorchester Town Youth committed to the process. The process is expected to take a couple of months, to ensure current finances are in order and future plans are in place in respect of board membership, budget and so on.

In the meantime, the Trust continues to identify benefits that such a move will bring.

Trust chairman, John Greenslade, said: “The over-riding reason for wanting the club to transfer to community ownership is to protect the long-term future of the club. “Too often we have seen clubs in private hands running beyond their means, and then folding when that money dries up. Shaun is doing an excellent job in turning the club around, but can’t do it on his own. “Putting the club into the hands of the community creates a clear incentive to run sustainably, and makes the club board directly accountable and answerable to the community who own it.

“This may seem like a subtle difference, but it will fundamentally change the club. “There will be a clear and transparent decision making process, and a published annual plan and budget. “It will increase the number of volunteers prepared to offer their time – particularly as they will have become part owners of the club. “The club will have access to community grants not currently available, and will work with local authorities to ensure the club is also used to benefit the whole community, which in turn of course will also benefit the club.”

The Trust are also keen to work with local businesses, and see the club’s affiliation card as one key way of making this happen, with local businesses offering discounts to cardholders, thereby supporting the club and the local economy.

In addition, it is proposed that Dorchester Town Youth FC fall under the same banner as the club. This has clear benefits to the club, in terms of developing talent for the future, and creating a much wider pool of support and interest. It also has benefits for DTYFC, in providing a much needed ‘home’, access to facilities, and allowing youngsters to have a formal route by which they may one day progress to first-team non-league club football.

It is clear that Greenslade is excited about the prospect of community ownership.

“I think this really is a win-win situation for everyone” he said. “However, just as Shaun has found, we will need support to make this happen, and would ask anyone who is prepared to help realise this fantastic opportunity to get in touch. “The Trust website has much more information about this proposal, and I’d urge anyone interested to get involved.”

The Trust can be contacted on 850099 or via email at info@magpiestrust.co.uk. The website address is dtfcct.org.uk

CONCERNS FOR INTENDED USE OF FUNDS (Basford letter)

I read with interest what Lloyd Spracklen had to say about the merger of Dorchester Town Youth Football Club (DTYFC), Community Trust and Dorchester Town FC in the Dorset Echo on February 7.

I have also read the comments and concerns of anonymous people on the Echo’s online comments page and the Magpies’ forum.

As a founder member of DTYFC I also have concerns with the intended use of youth team funds.

I was involved with Dorchester Town Youth for nine years during which I served in a number of roles including vice-chairman.

Lloyd was asked how a merger would benefit the youth and he said that for the first time in its history DTYFC will be part of the ownership structure of Dorchester Town FC and will have an influence on the future direction the club takes moving forward.

This, he said, would make all the players part of a local football pyramid giving each and every one the incentive and aspiration to one day, if talented enough, become a first-team player.

The next question asked was whether there were drawbacks to a possible merger. He said he didn’t see any at this stage.

I have known Lloyd for a number of years and have the greatest respect for the time he puts in.

We have not always seen eye to eye but I believe his intentions are well founded but on this occasion may I suggest he is being a bit naive.

Most of the younger youth team players already feel part of Dorch-ester Town FC as they play in black and white and, in their minds, it is all one club anyway.

During my time working with the under-18s I realised that for a young lad to make it into the first team they needed the desire as well as the ability and a bit of luck. The sad fact is that one in 200 boys may only be good enough to play regularly at Blue Square Bet South standard.

A lot has been made about the youth team funds and that they will be used to plug a black hole at the club.

I know when I left there was about £25,000 in the bank. I believe we are now talking between £30,000 and £60,000.

The talk at that time, from then chairman Dave Read, was to invest this money in a home for DTYFC.

My fear is that this is possibly what's behind the merger talks with the youth team money being invested in a new social club at the Avenue.

If this is the case then Lloyd should say that this is what is intended for the money.

Lloyd says the critics do not offer an alternative. Why does their need to be an alternative? DTYFC has managed on its own for the last 11 years.

If there is a surplus of funds in the bank account I believe this money should be split evenly among the teams and be spent on extra training and coaching, kit, end of season tours and tournaments.

Comments(4)

Wandsworth Magpie says...
7:41pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Bit of an exaggeration to say 'debate rages.' Reproducing a Trust pre-release and publishing a letter from a chap who used to be involved in DTYFC hardly constitutes as "raging on."

Not saying you're sensationalising or ought, though.

mrmagic says...
9:47am Sun 17 Feb 13

I would have thought Phil is entitled to his opinion.

My view is that DTFC only want the DTYFC because of the cash stash they have. There is no benefit from the linkup for DTYFC.

The trust may well be well meaning individuals but DTFC is a business and have they a buisness background? Or in reallity are they Civil Servants and Local Government Officers who are devoid of real world experience running a company.

Time will tell, however I hopeDTYFC dot get heir fingers burnt

DisillusionedDTYFCMember says...
8:28pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Totally agree with Phil Basford's letter, when are people going to realise the only reason the supporters trust want the youth on board is because of the money!!! Lloyd you may well be a good man but please don't get dragged into this farce by Dave Ring & John Greenslade who actually remind me a little of Mr Waldorf & Statler. At least if Waldorf & Statler get their hands on the club DTFC fans can look forward to the delights of the Evo Stick Southern League.

Mr Maloney says...
9:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Waldorf & Statler (Ring and Greenslade)!!!! they certainly do strike me as being a couple of muppets...one minute Mr Ring tells us its a matter of a few weeks before they takeover now Mr Greenslade says it will be a couple of months ,it strikes me as if the right hand doesn't know what the left one is doing.Let's not kid ourselves here everybody knows that the youth set up are getting cold feet (despite what Mr Spracklen will tell you) about their money they have raised over the year's being used up by the trust/football club and then leaving the youth set up with nothing left to fall back on which would be a disgrace. The youth set up IS needed by the trust but the trust are NOT needed by the youth set up,they only want you on board for the money you will bring,the big question is who are all these local buisnesses we are being always told about?,doubt we will be getting an answer from Waldorf & Statler anytime soon on this one ,on no we will probaly get that tired old answer that they don't want to be named at the moment, I have never known businesses to be so coy and not want any free advertising by being named in the local paper or are they as one may start to suspect figments of Mr Waldorf & Mr Statler's imagination

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