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ERNIE Battey has promised to tip off the Weymouth Wildcats if any suitable land becomes available in the town for a prospective new home.

The managing director of Morgan Sindall Investments Ltd made the offer of help in a letter to the club this week.

Morgan Sindall and Wessex Delivery LLP acquired the Wildcats’ former base at Radipole Lane from Wessex Park Ltd back in October 2008 and two years later WDP evicted the speedway outfit after a failure to pay the rent.

Harold Doonan then attempted to take over the lease in a bid to resuscitate the ailing club but the landowners turned away his efforts and recently had the track dug up.

Morgan Sindall and Wessex Del-ivery also hold an option agreement on Weymouth FC’s Bob Lucas Stadium and are currently searching for possible sites to relocate the ground – a move that has been welcomed by the Terras’ board.

In response to an email sent by Wildcats’ press officer Julie Martin to Morgan Sindall public relations contact Rob Miatt, Battey said: “Your email to Rob Miatt has been passed to me because Morgan Sindall Investments Ltd (MSIL) is one of the partners in the Wessex Delivery LLP.

“Wessex Delivery LLP does not act at the sole discretion of MSIL as you infer in your email but we do nevertheless expect to conduct our business in accordance with the quote you also repeat in your email (“We work in partnership with local communities and their government agencies and stakeholders to en-hance social and economic benefits and achieve wider community outcomes across the United Kingdom”).

“As no doubt you are aware Wessex Delivery LLP did consider Mr Doonan’s letter sent earlier in the year and our position has not changed in that regard.

“We have also been searching for land in the Weymouth area to enable us to relocate the football stadium and if whilst doing so we become aware of a prospective site that might suit your needs I will let you know as soon as possible.

“Whilst writing please note that the land to which you refer has not been used as a builders’ dumping ground. Any waste and rubble etc on there was already present and is being cleared from the site not stored on it.”

Doonan has welcomed Battey’s response and has called for the speedway track to be incorporated in any new stadium development for the football club.

He said: “It took eight weeks for them to respond to our original letter and this is the first time Ernie Battey has made contact himself.

“However, there are still two questions that need answering and that is why, with no planning permission, have they decided to destroy the track at Radipole Lane? And secondly, if they are going to move the football club, what are their plans for the ground there?

“Also, if they are going to go to all this trouble why can’t they incorporate a speedway track around the football pitch at the new site?

“It would certainly make more sense as you would have just one load of rates to pay between the two clubs and all the money earned from the bar and whatever else is in the new development would go into the same pot.

“It would also make sense for the good of the community.”

Comments(31)

royals says...
10:09am Thu 8 Dec 11

What I cannot understand is why move the Football and Speedway to another site in Weymouth when the site that they were on is in the local plan for sporting use.
Weymouth has a sporting area which was used by Speedway and Kids football but Morgan Swindell / Battie Crutiss Wessex Delivery What ever they want to be called have knocked that down.What ever the spin you put on this it is not for the good of the community.
I hope the planners do the right thing for the good of the community and tell Morgan Swindell to go to hell

2012Weymouth says...
11:17am Thu 8 Dec 11

I asked the same question on my website only last week, why have they kicked the speedway out without giving them a year by year lease. First time we have heard that they did not pay the rent! Like to hear the other side of that story please.
But to answer Royals point, the football club WANT a new ground, with better facilities where they have a chance to make some revenue, I don't think it matters where it is, as long it is has good function rooms for weddings and to be able to hold corporate events including conferences. Anything is better than the present facility because that can never pay it's way. What ruined this football club was the decision NOT to move ASDA and build a brand new stadium next to a brand new ASDA Ian Ridley's plan. And I think if that decision was made just a few months later it would have been agreed, and by now it would be all up and running. A speedway facility is going to be almost impossible to incorporate within a new stadium complex because of the noise factor, it JUST ABOUT got away it where it was. Its no good moaning at Morgan Sindall they haven't done anything wrong.....they might be able to help. However the Curtis deal to sell was still wrong in my opinion especially the underhanded way it was done. There is no simple solution, but the question is why when all this talking/planning is going on the speedway could have been granted another year or two....or 3. That was MEAN to do that to them.

Crabber says...
11:37am Thu 8 Dec 11

Oh come on 2012 it was common knowledge the 'Ginge' never paid the Stadium Rent and he also never paid the riders and if he did it was with a Rubber Check. I would rather they found us land or as you say incorporate a speedway track in a new football stadium, think of the benefits, shared maintanence costs and utilities bills it would be great as long as the footbal club and speedway club were run as seperate business's, great idea bring it on and 'Bring Back The Wildcats'

2012Weymouth says...
12:56pm Thu 8 Dec 11

I didn't say that a speedway track should be incorporated in a new football stadium. I said it would be difficult to incorporate it. To be perfectly honest, now the speedway is dead (sad that the fact is) it should actually stay dead. Any attempt to try and get the two together would in my opinion just drag down the already slim chances of a stadium getting planning permission. Its a no brainer and a non starter.

royals says...
1:13pm Thu 8 Dec 11

2012 weymouth
I think you have missed my point Weymouth has a sporting area for Weymouth THE LAND At Wessex STADIUM which is in the local plan for this use. So why change this
Weymouth Football how many more new stadiums do they want ???
If they cannot make the wessex Stadium work they will not be able to make a new stadium work. Do you really believe Morgan swindell are going to build a big and better stadium than the wessex stadium. It would be done on the cheap with £100,000 cash up front (which within a year WFC would have blown by paying to much in wages again)
If the football club does ever move you be lucky if you get a bar let alone Conference and wedding facilities unless the put it next to a camp site

2012Weymouth says...
1:37pm Thu 8 Dec 11

Well if they can find some land........then yes they can do it.......but that's the problem isn't it. If there was land, this would have been done ages ago.

kickmaster says...
2:58pm Thu 8 Dec 11

Sorry but where in the local plan does it say that the site is for sporting use. Seems like some individuals are misleading others here........... The stadium has seen better days as was not build very well in the first place.

2012Weymouth says...
4:51pm Thu 8 Dec 11

That's because "sporting use" used by the 1st poster is the incorrect term it is actually "recreational use" How difficult would that be to overturn, well pretty difficult as it stands, virtually impossible while the club are solventish and playing. However if the football club got a new site, then pretty easy I guess....seeing as the speedway has gone!

gameon says...
6:46pm Thu 8 Dec 11

2012weymouth in answer to your question about why the rent was unpaid by the wildcats promoter ,that was the former promoter Mr Bartlett who renaged on the rental agreement with morgan or wessex or M Curtis whoever it was they were not paid .But That had nothing to do with Harold Doonan who along with others including support from The rt hon Richard Drax & The rt hon MP Oliver Letwin and local councillors is striving very hard to bring speedway back to Weymouth he has offered to pay up front in advance to whoever chooses to say they are the owners of the wessex stadium and untill now there has been nothing but silence from the owners so i Emphasise to you 2012 Weymouth that the past promoter is in no way connected with the present prospective promoters .Also you say speedway and the football wouldnt work in the same stadium Erm i take it you have heard of poole Stadium where for many years footie the dogs and speedway quite happily ran together in a venue a mere few hundred yards from the town centre and still continues to thrive although the footie has gone down the road a bit .Football and speedway in Weymouth together in a stadium would bring nothing but benefits to all concerned ,ie the owners ,the clubs ,the supporters enjoying the facilities,and a facility that Weymouth ,would be proud of.

PHonnor says...
6:55pm Thu 8 Dec 11

gameon wrote:
2012weymouth in answer to your question about why the rent was unpaid by the wildcats promoter ,that was the former promoter Mr Bartlett who renaged on the rental agreement with morgan or wessex or M Curtis whoever it was they were not paid .But That had nothing to do with Harold Doonan who along with others including support from The rt hon Richard Drax & The rt hon MP Oliver Letwin and local councillors is striving very hard to bring speedway back to Weymouth he has offered to pay up front in advance to whoever chooses to say they are the owners of the wessex stadium and untill now there has been nothing but silence from the owners so i Emphasise to you 2012 Weymouth that the past promoter is in no way connected with the present prospective promoters .Also you say speedway and the football wouldnt work in the same stadium Erm i take it you have heard of poole Stadium where for many years footie the dogs and speedway quite happily ran together in a venue a mere few hundred yards from the town centre and still continues to thrive although the footie has gone down the road a bit .Football and speedway in Weymouth together in a stadium would bring nothing but benefits to all concerned ,ie the owners ,the clubs ,the supporters enjoying the facilities,and a facility that Weymouth ,would be proud of.
Have you ever been to a football stadium where there is a running/speedway track between the stands and the pitch? Its a crap atmosphere and you need binoculars to watch the match. IF it was a building condition to have a speedway track and around a football pitch then fair enough we'll take it but its not an ideal scenario.

2012Weymouth says...
7:03pm Thu 8 Dec 11

It worked in the 60's! 50 years on, times have changed. It will never happen so you might as well keep looking for a field somewhere.

gameon says...
8:03pm Thu 8 Dec 11

PHonnor wrote:
gameon wrote:
2012weymouth in answer to your question about why the rent was unpaid by the wildcats promoter ,that was the former promoter Mr Bartlett who renaged on the rental agreement with morgan or wessex or M Curtis whoever it was they were not paid .But That had nothing to do with Harold Doonan who along with others including support from The rt hon Richard Drax & The rt hon MP Oliver Letwin and local councillors is striving very hard to bring speedway back to Weymouth he has offered to pay up front in advance to whoever chooses to say they are the owners of the wessex stadium and untill now there has been nothing but silence from the owners so i Emphasise to you 2012 Weymouth that the past promoter is in no way connected with the present prospective promoters .Also you say speedway and the football wouldnt work in the same stadium Erm i take it you have heard of poole Stadium where for many years footie the dogs and speedway quite happily ran together in a venue a mere few hundred yards from the town centre and still continues to thrive although the footie has gone down the road a bit .Football and speedway in Weymouth together in a stadium would bring nothing but benefits to all concerned ,ie the owners ,the clubs ,the supporters enjoying the facilities,and a facility that Weymouth ,would be proud of.
Have you ever been to a football stadium where there is a running/speedway track between the stands and the pitch? Its a crap atmosphere and you need binoculars to watch the match. IF it was a building condition to have a speedway track and around a football pitch then fair enough we'll take it but its not an ideal scenario.
Actually i have mate Poole stadium as is now In order DOGS,Speedway,And formerly Football ,and it all worked fine .Latterly in years back Wembley ,athletics speedway football .The White City ,Athletics ,Speedway ,Football.If You want a crap atmosphere how far away from the proposed playing area do you think this white Elephant of an Olympic stadium in East london will be ????a lot further than the pitch would be if we have a combined new stadium at weymouth thats what you call crap ???

gameon says...
8:50pm Thu 8 Dec 11

2012Weymouth wrote:
It worked in the 60's! 50 years on, times have changed. It will never happen so you might as well keep looking for a field somewhere.
Your opinion is respected you obviously are against speedway thats fine we cant all be the same what a dull world if we were !!!!

2012Weymouth says...
11:42pm Thu 8 Dec 11

Well at least it is now common knowledge that a planning application went in on the 15 Nov 2011 for the area (the old Speedway track) to be turned into open air storage which will be rented out. Why was that not in the write up?

No I am not against Speedway at all, it would be fine with a Dog Track but not with a Football Club.

2012Weymouth says...
11:59pm Thu 8 Dec 11

So what the conclusions about an open air storage area?
1) They want some kind of income out of the area
2) There is no short term plan to build on it
3) This is a change of use, but a small change in use got agreed when the caravans were allowed to be parked on the football car park...making a precedent possible.

So not all bad news for the football club as far as I can see, just a shame the speedway got this treatment for a open air storage area!

gameon says...
12:02am Fri 9 Dec 11

your the first person to come out with this application I cant beleive Harold doonan knows about it .i cant see what your problem is regarding speedway and football at the same stadium they dont excactly race or play on the same night if you go to poole you will see the distance from the dog track and the race track to the playing field is not that far look at the distance from the playing areas at wembley and the millenium stadium and if you were sat in the high seats at the big footy stadiums thats a long way away take your bins with you .

2012Weymouth says...
12:25am Fri 9 Dec 11

Well I sort of figured they don't play on the same night.

PHonnor says...
7:13am Fri 9 Dec 11

gameon wrote:
your the first person to come out with this application I cant beleive Harold doonan knows about it .i cant see what your problem is regarding speedway and football at the same stadium they dont excactly race or play on the same night if you go to poole you will see the distance from the dog track and the race track to the playing field is not that far look at the distance from the playing areas at wembley and the millenium stadium and if you were sat in the high seats at the big footy stadiums thats a long way away take your bins with you .
But we are talking about a small 5000ish capacity stadium without the benefits of being able to sit in the "heavens" or have the benefit of being to hold 80,90 thousand which does help the atmosphere, WFC gets less than 1000 per game at present but thats another talking point.

HedgehogWinter says...
1:34pm Fri 9 Dec 11

Why would you want a return of the floodlit drama, excitement, noise, smell, atmosphere, fun, team spirit and friendly entertainment of Speedway when you have a few little boats to watch through binoculars on the horizon next year to look forward to ?
Don't be greedy...

keeman says...
4:16pm Fri 9 Dec 11

An interesting thread. Kickmaster is right, the stadium is very run down and will require mega bucks spent on it in the not too distant future if the club do not relocate. The only viable option is that Battey & co. get the land in exchange for a new stadium of the required standard. Other wise the long term future is bleak.

212 dorset says...
5:44pm Fri 9 Dec 11

The stadium is far too big for a poor non league team like Weymouth who average gates of less than 600. We must look realisitically, that unless a Saudi Shiekh runs into town and ploughs millions into the club, they are never going to require a stadium of this size. The land is huge, and could be developed into proper quality sporting facilites which everyone can use, who will pay to keep it going. Weymouth F.C's glory years are over and people must accept this.

muffmagic says...
7:57pm Fri 9 Dec 11

And what happens if Morgan swindall can't find a place to put a new stadium? They have to buildus a stadium or give the club the money to build our own and what happens if we can't find anywhere? Great, cash in the bank but no club. Don't forget i think they have to build like for like as curtis was quoted saying in one if his interviews in this very paper. I also think you will find Morgan Swindall have too find an alternative piece of recreational land in west dorset to replace what they want to build on, good luck with that Ernie!

gameon says...
8:56pm Fri 9 Dec 11

HedgehogWinter wrote:
Why would you want a return of the floodlit drama, excitement, noise, smell, atmosphere, fun, team spirit and friendly entertainment of Speedway when you have a few little boats to watch through binoculars on the horizon next year to look forward to ?
Don't be greedy...
You are so right mate a few dots on the horizon through binoculars for two weeks and for that we have had the town dug up, untold disruption costing Millions of pounds.

2012Weymouth says...
9:44pm Fri 9 Dec 11

keeman wrote:
An interesting thread. Kickmaster is right, the stadium is very run down and will require mega bucks spent on it in the not too distant future if the club do not relocate. The only viable option is that Battey & co. get the land in exchange for a new stadium of the required standard. Other wise the long term future is bleak.
"Get the Land" They already own the land!

2012Weymouth says...
9:56pm Fri 9 Dec 11

gameon wrote:
HedgehogWinter wrote:
Why would you want a return of the floodlit drama, excitement, noise, smell, atmosphere, fun, team spirit and friendly entertainment of Speedway when you have a few little boats to watch through binoculars on the horizon next year to look forward to ?
Don't be greedy...
You are so right mate a few dots on the horizon through binoculars for two weeks and for that we have had the town dug up, untold disruption costing Millions of pounds.
Hmmmm Speedway and Sailing....No that's going to work either.

muffmagic says...
6:17pm Sat 10 Dec 11

So where exactly is the new football stadium going to go?

Crabber says...
12:47pm Sun 11 Dec 11

muffmagic wrote:
So where exactly is the new football stadium going to go?
They won't need a stadium The Marsh is adequate for the Muff they're crap anyway BRING BACK THE WILDCATS!!

muffmagic says...
6:22pm Sun 11 Dec 11

Rest assured the echo will be getting behind the campaign to stop the development of the area that is designated for recreation before it's lost to the community forever. It's not just speedway that's been lost, there was a floodlit training pitch used by kids and you can bet your bottom dollar ms don't give a hoot whether the football club have a home or not.

muffmagic says...
6:22pm Sun 11 Dec 11

Rest assured the echo will be getting behind the campaign to stop the development of the area that is designated for recreation before it's lost to the community forever. It's not just speedway that's been lost, there was a floodlit training pitch used by kids and you can bet your bottom dollar ms don't give a hoot whether the football club have a home or not.

InTheDirt says...
5:27am Mon 12 Dec 11

I find it strange that private email correspondence can be quoted. Is the paper owned by Murdoch's empire now? May I suggest checking your sources before you publish private emails, it has been noted Mr Summers ;) Anyway people it's time to move onwards and stop making yourselves look stupid. You will never win against the stacks of cash that MS have available. Lets face it the land was only used by a small minority of local people for a minority sport and a struggling football club, this should give you the message that it's a pointless cause to continue fighting for a rather expensive and overpriced piece of land. Neither football or speedway can or could really make it pay so a new stadium for the football and maybe new land for the speedway away from money grabbing landlords will help both survive in the future.

InTheDirt says...
5:28am Mon 12 Dec 11

I find it strange that private email correspondence can be quoted. Is the paper owned by Murdoch's empire now? May I suggest checking your sources before you publish private emails, it has been noted Mr Summers ;) Anyway people it's time to move onwards and stop making yourselves look stupid. You will never win against the stacks of cash that MS have available. Lets face it the land was only used by a small minority of local people for a minority sport and a struggling football club, this should give you the message that it's a pointless cause to continue fighting for a rather expensive and overpriced piece of land. Neither football or speedway can or could really make it pay so a new stadium for the football and maybe new land for the speedway away from money grabbing landlords will help both survive in the future.

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