Drink drivers named and shamed

Drink drivers named and shamed

Nathan Richard Smith

Samuel Bunney

Jake Zak Mackay

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DORSET Police have charged 65 people with drink driving between December 1 and New Year’s Day as part of its festive campaign. The Dorset Echo has teamed up with Dorset Police to name and shame those charged and found guilty with drink driving offences over Christmas and the New Year.

The following are the first four from this area to be dealt with by the courts.

 

NATHAN RICHARD SMITH

A MAN was more than twice the drink drive limit the morning after spending a night out in Weymouth town centre.

Nathan Richard Smith, aged 26, of Doulton Close, Weymouth, was discovered by police in Doncaster Road, Weymouth, in a stationary Volkswagen Polo with the engine running at 8.14am on December 14.

He had drunk six pints of lager between 7pm and 3am the night before, Weymouth Magistrates Court heard.

Magistrates were told that Smith, a delivery driver, gave a reading of 88mg of alcohol per 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mg.

Prosecutor Elizabeth Valera said: “In the early hours of the morning Mr Smith had been in Weymouth town centre drinking.

“He picked his vehicle up and then decided to drive it to Doncaster Road.”

Smith pleaded guilty to drink driving.

Magistrates banned Smith from driving for 18 months, with a 134 day reduction upon completing a drink driving awareness course.

He was fined £200, ordered to pay costs of £85 and a victim surcharge of £20.

SAMUEL BUNNEY

A CAR swerving across a Weymouth road was being driven by intoxicated Samuel Bunney, Weymouth Magistrates Court heard.

Police officers became suspicious when they saw the 25-year-old driving his Audi car down a hill in Weymouth at 2am on December 15 without any headlights.

Prosecutor Elizabeth Valera said Bunney, of Lindisfarne, Powerstock, was travelling at low speed and ‘swerving from the kerb to the white lines’. He was pulled over by police in Weymouth Way.

Bunney, who pleaded guilty to drink driving, gave a reading of 73 mg of alcohol per 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mg.

Defending, Richard Griffiths said university graduate Bunney, who works for phone company 4Com in Christchurch, had made a ‘foolish mistake’.

He was banned from driving for 17 months, to be reduced by 127 days upon completion of a drink drivers’ course.

He was fined £345, ordered to pay costs of £85 and a victim surcharge of £35.

JAKE ZAK MACKAY

A SELF-EMPLOYED carpenter admitted drink driving after travelling home from a bar in his work van.

Jake Zak Mackay, aged 22, of Sackmore Lane, Marnhull, near Sturminster Newton, was banned from driving for 17 months by Weymouth magistrates.

The court heard police stopped Mackay, who was travelling ‘at speed’ in a Peugeot van along Lodbourne Green, Gillingham, on December 15.

He gave a breath reading of 70mg of alcohol per 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mg.

Simon Brimacombe, mitigating, said Mackay had been drinking at a bar and was supposed to be staying with friends, but his friends had left and his phone had run out.

“He had not been drinking for an hour or two before the offence and didn’t think he was over the limit,” he said.

Mackay was banned from driving for 17 months, fined £150, ordered to pay £85 costs and a £20 victim surcharge.

STUART KNIGHT

A PORTLAND dad who crashed a car into a ditch on his way home from a Christmas party then ran away from the back of an ambulance has admitted drink driving.

Stuart Knight was helped by an off-duty police officer after he drove his wife’s Ford Ka into a ditch at Gould's Hill, Dorchester, Weymouth Magistrates Court heard.

Knight, aged 41, of Officers Field, was at his work’s Christmas party in Dorchester on December 6.

Prosecutor Elizabeth Valera said: “Mr Knight went into the ambulance to be treated and disappeared from the scene.”

Mitigating, Simon Lacey said Knight intended to leave his wife’s car in Dorchester overnight and go home in a taxi. Mr Lacey said: “He feels an overwhelming sense of anxiety which is why he came out of the party and decided to drive.”

After Mr Knight left the scene of the collision and walked back to Dorchester, Mr Lacey said, a woman at the train station noticed he had cuts on his head.

An ambulance was called and the police were then called.

The court heard Knight gave a reading of 71mg of alcohol per 100ml of breath.

The legal limit is 35mg.

District judge Stephen Nicholls banned Knight from driving for 18 months and fined him £350.

He was ordered to pay £85 prosecution costs and a £35 victim surcharge.

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8:23am Sat 4 Jan 14

MattWey77 says...

26, 25, 22 and 41. I thought the message would have got through to the younger generation that drinking and driving was a bad thing. Obviously not. While the oldest ran away.... guess he was hoping he could report his wife's car as stolen!

Guess the Jake (carpenter) will find it hard without a license for the next 17 months and may well end up on benefits - all because he wanted to drink and risk driving.
26, 25, 22 and 41. I thought the message would have got through to the younger generation that drinking and driving was a bad thing. Obviously not. While the oldest ran away.... guess he was hoping he could report his wife's car as stolen! Guess the Jake (carpenter) will find it hard without a license for the next 17 months and may well end up on benefits - all because he wanted to drink and risk driving. MattWey77
  • Score: 29

11:10am Sat 4 Jan 14

dave.flowers says...

4 from 65 = 61 missing names??????
4 from 65 = 61 missing names?????? dave.flowers
  • Score: 11

11:19am Sat 4 Jan 14

common cence says...

dave.flowers wrote:
4 from 65 = 61 missing names??????
Not been to court yet
[quote][p][bold]dave.flowers[/bold] wrote: 4 from 65 = 61 missing names??????[/p][/quote]Not been to court yet common cence
  • Score: 16

1:38pm Sat 4 Jan 14

unexpected error says...

Interesting that they are all relatively young. People my age can remember the old days of police road blocks and everybody getting breathalised(!) so we just don't do it. That said, drink driving was rife back then especially in rural areas so it needed this blanket approach to get the message across which I think it did at the time. Maybe it's time to do the same in the town centre of Weymouth at 2am to put the frighteners on.
Interesting that they are all relatively young. People my age can remember the old days of police road blocks and everybody getting breathalised(!) so we just don't do it. That said, drink driving was rife back then especially in rural areas so it needed this blanket approach to get the message across which I think it did at the time. Maybe it's time to do the same in the town centre of Weymouth at 2am to put the frighteners on. unexpected error
  • Score: 11

6:02pm Sat 4 Jan 14

CoogarUK.com says...

dave.flowers wrote:
4 from 65 = 61 missing names??????
I think you'll find that they can only name those who have been convicted. So, I guess it's a case of 'watch this space'...
[quote][p][bold]dave.flowers[/bold] wrote: 4 from 65 = 61 missing names??????[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that they can only name those who have been convicted. So, I guess it's a case of 'watch this space'... CoogarUK.com
  • Score: 3

6:42pm Sat 4 Jan 14

AdPwnzHalo3 says...

Defending, Richard Griffiths said university graduate Bunney, who works for phone company 4Com in Christchurch, had made a ‘foolish mistake’.

Yeah, cause he got caught. These waste of oxygen morons needa kick in not a driving ban, they'll all do it again I guarantee it.
Defending, Richard Griffiths said university graduate Bunney, who works for phone company 4Com in Christchurch, had made a ‘foolish mistake’. Yeah, cause he got caught. These waste of oxygen morons needa kick in not a driving ban, they'll all do it again I guarantee it. AdPwnzHalo3
  • Score: 7

7:21pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Is it me or is everything rubbish? says...

For drink driving, using a mobile whilst driving, for driving while disqualified, driving with no insurance etc I think that the individual should have their car seized and destroyed, banned from driving for 5 years and have a £5000 fine.

I see so many people driving whilst using their mobiles and clearly there are still many morons still drink driving.

There needs to be a huge incentive to not break the law, as clearly the current punishments imposed are not enough.
For drink driving, using a mobile whilst driving, for driving while disqualified, driving with no insurance etc I think that the individual should have their car seized and destroyed, banned from driving for 5 years and have a £5000 fine. I see so many people driving whilst using their mobiles and clearly there are still many morons still drink driving. There needs to be a huge incentive to not break the law, as clearly the current punishments imposed are not enough. Is it me or is everything rubbish?
  • Score: 16

9:21pm Sat 4 Jan 14

The Mighty Quin says...

I do hope The Echo continue to name and shame all drunk drivers.
I do hope The Echo continue to name and shame all drunk drivers. The Mighty Quin
  • Score: 15

12:29am Sun 5 Jan 14

fastjet says...

So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator
So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator fastjet
  • Score: 1

12:53am Sun 5 Jan 14

westbaywonder says...

"One for the road Sir"? LOL
"One for the road Sir"? LOL westbaywonder
  • Score: 1

4:43am Sun 5 Jan 14

EtaoinShrdlu says...

To be fair the cops should issue "credit notes" if you are under. So if you get bagged and blow, say, 20, you get a credit of 15 (35 - 20 = 15). Then you can save them up and then when you get stopped when you are REALLY bladdered, say blowing 100, you get the 75 you have accumulated, and 25 lets you carry on. This would be in line with British fair play. Give it a try anyway.
To be fair the cops should issue "credit notes" if you are under. So if you get bagged and blow, say, 20, you get a credit of 15 (35 - 20 = 15). Then you can save them up and then when you get stopped when you are REALLY bladdered, say blowing 100, you get the 75 you have accumulated, and 25 lets you carry on. This would be in line with British fair play. Give it a try anyway. EtaoinShrdlu
  • Score: -12

10:11am Sun 5 Jan 14

ksmain says...

EtaoinShrdlu wrote:
To be fair the cops should issue "credit notes" if you are under. So if you get bagged and blow, say, 20, you get a credit of 15 (35 - 20 = 15). Then you can save them up and then when you get stopped when you are REALLY bladdered, say blowing 100, you get the 75 you have accumulated, and 25 lets you carry on. This would be in line with British fair play. Give it a try anyway.
Why? These people are a DANGER to other road users - and it doesn't matter whether they do it once or 10 times.

Drink driving laws have been around for years. EVERYBODY knows them. If you know you are going to drink then make alternative transport arrangements - if you make a decision to drink on the spot, ensure you have arrangements made to get you home. Even in this part of the country there are train, bus and taxi services. Taxis can be expensive, but then it is part of the decision you make to drink - and part of being a responsible adult. These people were of an age where they should have known better. It isn't rocket science!!

Try say 'have British fair play'' to those people who have friends that have been permanently maimed or killed by these people.

The laws should be tougher - if only to deter these people even more.
[quote][p][bold]EtaoinShrdlu[/bold] wrote: To be fair the cops should issue "credit notes" if you are under. So if you get bagged and blow, say, 20, you get a credit of 15 (35 - 20 = 15). Then you can save them up and then when you get stopped when you are REALLY bladdered, say blowing 100, you get the 75 you have accumulated, and 25 lets you carry on. This would be in line with British fair play. Give it a try anyway.[/p][/quote]Why? These people are a DANGER to other road users - and it doesn't matter whether they do it once or 10 times. Drink driving laws have been around for years. EVERYBODY knows them. If you know you are going to drink then make alternative transport arrangements - if you make a decision to drink on the spot, ensure you have arrangements made to get you home. Even in this part of the country there are train, bus and taxi services. Taxis can be expensive, but then it is part of the decision you make to drink - and part of being a responsible adult. These people were of an age where they should have known better. It isn't rocket science!! Try say 'have British fair play'' to those people who have friends that have been permanently maimed or killed by these people. The laws should be tougher - if only to deter these people even more. ksmain
  • Score: 4

11:48am Sun 5 Jan 14

Gaz the great says...

Same the country over, idiots who are prepared to kill themselves &/or others! By now you would have hoped the message had, by now, been understood, sadly this doesn't appear to be the case!
Same the country over, idiots who are prepared to kill themselves &/or others! By now you would have hoped the message had, by now, been understood, sadly this doesn't appear to be the case! Gaz the great
  • Score: 6

9:21pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

fastjet wrote:
So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator
Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day.
Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone.
All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe.
I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.
[quote][p][bold]fastjet[/bold] wrote: So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator[/p][/quote]Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day. Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone. All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe. I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -5

9:34pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

EtaoinShrdlu wrote:
To be fair the cops should issue "credit notes" if you are under. So if you get bagged and blow, say, 20, you get a credit of 15 (35 - 20 = 15). Then you can save them up and then when you get stopped when you are REALLY bladdered, say blowing 100, you get the 75 you have accumulated, and 25 lets you carry on. This would be in line with British fair play. Give it a try anyway.
Drinking and driving seems really funny until you meet someone that's been killed by a drunk driver.
I'd imagine you wouldn't find it funny if someone killed your parent, or a child because they fancied another pint. Hilarious.
Just of the top of my head - a complete see you next Tuesday was driving back from Bridport in a van and killed that guy on his bike, because being pi*ssed the van he was driving he in the wrong side of the road. I'm imagining the bikers family aren't laughing about drink driving much...
[quote][p][bold]EtaoinShrdlu[/bold] wrote: To be fair the cops should issue "credit notes" if you are under. So if you get bagged and blow, say, 20, you get a credit of 15 (35 - 20 = 15). Then you can save them up and then when you get stopped when you are REALLY bladdered, say blowing 100, you get the 75 you have accumulated, and 25 lets you carry on. This would be in line with British fair play. Give it a try anyway.[/p][/quote]Drinking and driving seems really funny until you meet someone that's been killed by a drunk driver. I'd imagine you wouldn't find it funny if someone killed your parent, or a child because they fancied another pint. Hilarious. Just of the top of my head - a complete see you next Tuesday was driving back from Bridport in a van and killed that guy on his bike, because being pi*ssed the van he was driving he in the wrong side of the road. I'm imagining the bikers family aren't laughing about drink driving much... Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: 16

12:06am Mon 6 Jan 14

jmc1 says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
fastjet wrote:
So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator
Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day.
Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone.
All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe.
I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.
Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fastjet[/bold] wrote: So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator[/p][/quote]Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day. Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone. All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe. I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better. jmc1
  • Score: 4

6:56am Mon 6 Jan 14

Green.S says...

unexpected error wrote:
Interesting that they are all relatively young. People my age can remember the old days of police road blocks and everybody getting breathalised(!) so we just don't do it. That said, drink driving was rife back then especially in rural areas so it needed this blanket approach to get the message across which I think it did at the time. Maybe it's time to do the same in the town centre of Weymouth at 2am to put the frighteners on.
The police actively target certain types of drivers.In police road blocks they can not pull every driver over so they use the ANPR system to identify drivers of supposedly high risk groups, namely men under 25. Therefore it stands to reason that the majority of these individual were men under 25. Unless of course someone driving is obviously a bit dodgy,then they to will be pulled over.
[quote][p][bold]unexpected error[/bold] wrote: Interesting that they are all relatively young. People my age can remember the old days of police road blocks and everybody getting breathalised(!) so we just don't do it. That said, drink driving was rife back then especially in rural areas so it needed this blanket approach to get the message across which I think it did at the time. Maybe it's time to do the same in the town centre of Weymouth at 2am to put the frighteners on.[/p][/quote]The police actively target certain types of drivers.In police road blocks they can not pull every driver over so they use the ANPR system to identify drivers of supposedly high risk groups, namely men under 25. Therefore it stands to reason that the majority of these individual were men under 25. Unless of course someone driving is obviously a bit dodgy,then they to will be pulled over. Green.S
  • Score: 2

6:59am Mon 6 Jan 14

Green.S says...

AdPwnzHalo3 wrote:
Defending, Richard Griffiths said university graduate Bunney, who works for phone company 4Com in Christchurch, had made a ‘foolish mistake’.

Yeah, cause he got caught. These waste of oxygen morons needa kick in not a driving ban, they'll all do it again I guarantee it.
But of course this individual was probably represented curtsey of Legal Aid, which is a complete waste of public funds.
[quote][p][bold]AdPwnzHalo3[/bold] wrote: Defending, Richard Griffiths said university graduate Bunney, who works for phone company 4Com in Christchurch, had made a ‘foolish mistake’. Yeah, cause he got caught. These waste of oxygen morons needa kick in not a driving ban, they'll all do it again I guarantee it.[/p][/quote]But of course this individual was probably represented curtsey of Legal Aid, which is a complete waste of public funds. Green.S
  • Score: 4

8:51am Mon 6 Jan 14

Parkstreetshufle says...

jmc1 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
fastjet wrote:
So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator
Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day.
Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone.
All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe.
I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.
Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.
It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car.
A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.
[quote][p][bold]jmc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fastjet[/bold] wrote: So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator[/p][/quote]Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day. Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone. All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe. I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.[/p][/quote]It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car. A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc. Parkstreetshufle
  • Score: -11

4:25pm Mon 6 Jan 14

mark@greenhill says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
jmc1 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
fastjet wrote:
So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator
Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day.
Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone.
All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe.
I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.
Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.
It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car.
A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.
So the masses of data from driving authorities the world over are wrong, and you are right?

If it's raining, foggy, dull etc put your bloody lights on.
The number of cars (especially silver ones) that almost disappear in the gloom, is amazing, and now some no it all from the park, thinks he knows more than the rest of the motoring world?

As a professional driver, I constantly see amateurs and idiots driving without their lights on and think they are an accident waiting to happen.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jmc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fastjet[/bold] wrote: So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator[/p][/quote]Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day. Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone. All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe. I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.[/p][/quote]It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car. A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.[/p][/quote]So the masses of data from driving authorities the world over are wrong, and you are right? If it's raining, foggy, dull etc put your bloody lights on. The number of cars (especially silver ones) that almost disappear in the gloom, is amazing, and now some no it all from the park, thinks he knows more than the rest of the motoring world? As a professional driver, I constantly see amateurs and idiots driving without their lights on and think they are an accident waiting to happen. mark@greenhill
  • Score: 17

4:50pm Mon 6 Jan 14

golfish says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
EtaoinShrdlu wrote:
To be fair the cops should issue "credit notes" if you are under. So if you get bagged and blow, say, 20, you get a credit of 15 (35 - 20 = 15). Then you can save them up and then when you get stopped when you are REALLY bladdered, say blowing 100, you get the 75 you have accumulated, and 25 lets you carry on. This would be in line with British fair play. Give it a try anyway.
Drinking and driving seems really funny until you meet someone that's been killed by a drunk driver.
I'd imagine you wouldn't find it funny if someone killed your parent, or a child because they fancied another pint. Hilarious.
Just of the top of my head - a complete see you next Tuesday was driving back from Bridport in a van and killed that guy on his bike, because being pi*ssed the van he was driving he in the wrong side of the road. I'm imagining the bikers family aren't laughing about drink driving much...
Don't think you should be driving mush if you've been meeting dead people!
However, I totaly agree with the rest of you're comment.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EtaoinShrdlu[/bold] wrote: To be fair the cops should issue "credit notes" if you are under. So if you get bagged and blow, say, 20, you get a credit of 15 (35 - 20 = 15). Then you can save them up and then when you get stopped when you are REALLY bladdered, say blowing 100, you get the 75 you have accumulated, and 25 lets you carry on. This would be in line with British fair play. Give it a try anyway.[/p][/quote]Drinking and driving seems really funny until you meet someone that's been killed by a drunk driver. I'd imagine you wouldn't find it funny if someone killed your parent, or a child because they fancied another pint. Hilarious. Just of the top of my head - a complete see you next Tuesday was driving back from Bridport in a van and killed that guy on his bike, because being pi*ssed the van he was driving he in the wrong side of the road. I'm imagining the bikers family aren't laughing about drink driving much...[/p][/quote]Don't think you should be driving mush if you've been meeting dead people! However, I totaly agree with the rest of you're comment. golfish
  • Score: 6

6:06pm Mon 6 Jan 14

outsidelookinin says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
jmc1 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
fastjet wrote:
So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator
Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day.
Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone.
All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe.
I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.
Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.
It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car.
A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.
the idea of having lights on in inclement weather is not so you can see but so that you can readily be seen.You always have to think that any other driver is a moron
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jmc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fastjet[/bold] wrote: So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator[/p][/quote]Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day. Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone. All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe. I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.[/p][/quote]It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car. A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.[/p][/quote]the idea of having lights on in inclement weather is not so you can see but so that you can readily be seen.You always have to think that any other driver is a moron outsidelookinin
  • Score: 13

7:00pm Mon 6 Jan 14

smilealoft44 says...

Plenty of moron drivers in Weymouth.
Plenty of moron drivers in Weymouth. smilealoft44
  • Score: 0

4:11pm Tue 7 Jan 14

CoogarUK.com says...

Parkstreetshufle wrote:
jmc1 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
fastjet wrote:
So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator
Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day.
Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone.
All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe.
I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.
Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.
It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car.
A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.
Using dipped headlights in poor visibility (which includes heavy rain) has been a legal requirement for years. Hopefully one day you may get caught.
[quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jmc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fastjet[/bold] wrote: So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator[/p][/quote]Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day. Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone. All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe. I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.[/p][/quote]It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car. A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.[/p][/quote]Using dipped headlights in poor visibility (which includes heavy rain) has been a legal requirement for years. Hopefully one day you may get caught. CoogarUK.com
  • Score: 11

10:30am Wed 8 Jan 14

scubadude says...

CoogarUK.com wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
jmc1 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
fastjet wrote:
So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator
Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day.
Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone.
All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe.
I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.
Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.
It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car.
A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.
Using dipped headlights in poor visibility (which includes heavy rain) has been a legal requirement for years. Hopefully one day you may get caught.
Dipped Headlights Yes- not Fog lights which people seem to think is acceptable whereas actually it blinds oncoming drivers and you can get points and a fine for improper use of, not that Weymouths understaffed and lackluster Police would bother to actually do anything.
[quote][p][bold]CoogarUK.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jmc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fastjet[/bold] wrote: So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator[/p][/quote]Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day. Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone. All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe. I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.[/p][/quote]It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car. A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.[/p][/quote]Using dipped headlights in poor visibility (which includes heavy rain) has been a legal requirement for years. Hopefully one day you may get caught.[/p][/quote]Dipped Headlights Yes- not Fog lights which people seem to think is acceptable whereas actually it blinds oncoming drivers and you can get points and a fine for improper use of, not that Weymouths understaffed and lackluster Police would bother to actually do anything. scubadude
  • Score: 1

6:50pm Wed 8 Jan 14

marabout says...

scubadude wrote:
CoogarUK.com wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
jmc1 wrote:
Parkstreetshufle wrote:
fastjet wrote:
So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator
Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day.
Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone.
All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe.
I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.
Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.
It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car.
A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.
Using dipped headlights in poor visibility (which includes heavy rain) has been a legal requirement for years. Hopefully one day you may get caught.
Dipped Headlights Yes- not Fog lights which people seem to think is acceptable whereas actually it blinds oncoming drivers and you can get points and a fine for improper use of, not that Weymouths understaffed and lackluster Police would bother to actually do anything.
The difference is of course that it is illegal to use your mobile phone whilst driving and yet it is not illegal to drink and drive.
[quote][p][bold]scubadude[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CoogarUK.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jmc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parkstreetshufle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fastjet[/bold] wrote: So many people still using mobile phones whilst driving. Another thing is people sorry to say it mainly women driving without any sort of lights in bad weather conditions. Surely its law . Maybe they think by not putting their lights on tgey are saving the car battery. Thats why cars have a generator or an alternator[/p][/quote]Prior to intervention by the EU, motorbikes were the only vehicle type allowed lights during the day. Given the danger of a car driver hitting you whilst driving a motorbike this is the dumbest bit of law passed on the road. It gives the biker a bit of badly needed visual differential in a very dangerous world, where as you say - there are still idiots driving around unaware of the danger they pose staring at a phone. All new cars will be fitted with running lights - I believe. I think I'd keep my mouth shut about wanting to use lights in bad weather - it's liable to get you marked out as defective for a licence. The weather in this country - unless its very thick fog, if you can't see in broad daylight, rain or snow, you shouldn't be driving I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]Not sure I understand your last sentence,my car has running lights all the time,the weather we've been having lately,I switch my main dipped lights on,the sooner it's made law,the better.[/p][/quote]It's simple enough. If your a car driving adult with 20/20 vision, you do not need lights on in daylight whether its a monsoon or a bright summers day. Running lights in the daytime should be reserved for motorbikes. If you cannot drive in daytime rain without having the other car drivers marked out because they have their lights on - you shouldn't have access to a car. A car is a killing machine, I say this as a car driver. There is no place on the roads for people that cannot see properly, as there is not for idiots using phones or drink driving etc.[/p][/quote]Using dipped headlights in poor visibility (which includes heavy rain) has been a legal requirement for years. Hopefully one day you may get caught.[/p][/quote]Dipped Headlights Yes- not Fog lights which people seem to think is acceptable whereas actually it blinds oncoming drivers and you can get points and a fine for improper use of, not that Weymouths understaffed and lackluster Police would bother to actually do anything.[/p][/quote]The difference is of course that it is illegal to use your mobile phone whilst driving and yet it is not illegal to drink and drive. marabout
  • Score: -6

9:06pm Wed 8 Jan 14

westbaywonder says...

Front fogs and sidelights only!
Thats how we roll!
Big Up Ya Scoobys!!
Front fogs and sidelights only! Thats how we roll! Big Up Ya Scoobys!! westbaywonder
  • Score: -8

3:54am Tue 21 Jan 14

Under35andout says...

i just drove home drunk but i made it now i aving a vodka and gonna go get some fags booyakasha
i just drove home drunk but i made it now i aving a vodka and gonna go get some fags booyakasha Under35andout
  • Score: 0

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