Jail for man who headbutted police officer

Dorset Echo: JAILED: Thomas Ashe JAILED: Thomas Ashe

A MAN who headbutted an acting sergeant and then described police officers as 'worse than murderers and rapists' has been jailed for ten months.

Thomas Harvey Ashe, 21, left the sergeant who tried to intervene in a street brawl in Weymouth town centre on the morning of September 15 with a broken nose.

Prosecutor Stuart Ellacott told a sentencing hearing at Dorchester Crown Court that Ashe, who admitted a charge of assault occasioning actual bodily harm, had become verbally abusive towards officers who attended the scene, claiming he had been assaulted and asking police why they were not arresting the man he believed to be responsible.

He said the acting police sergeant pushed Ashe down the road to remove him from the situation and the defendant responded by turning round and headbutting him in the face.

When he was being arrested he then told officers: “You're worse than murderers and rapists, I bet none of you have been to university.”

The court was told the injured officer was forced to have corrective surgery on his nose and was off work for a month.

Street cleaner Ashe, of Jestys Avenue, Weymouth, claimed in a basis of plea that he had been out with friends when they came across a fight between two groups of males who did they did not know.

He claimed one man was on the floor, apparently unconscious, being stamped on and he went to intervene while a friend phoned the police.

Ashe said he was struck several times by the unknown males as he attempted to act as a shield for the stricken man.

Robert Pawson, representing Ashe, said that while his client did not seek to use this as an excuse for his later conduct towards the police officers, it explained his 'heightened state of emotion'.

He added: “This is totally out of character and arises out of raised emotions in circumstances which are perhaps, if not justifiable, at least to a certain extent understandable.”

Judge Roger Jarvis told the defendant: “The court sadly has far too frequently to deal with young people, often young men, who are behaving in this sort of way.

“The plain fact of the matter is this is an offence committed against someone working in the public sector.

“If any of the rest of us had the misfortune to witness this sort of incident we can move to the other side of the road, a police officer cannot do that."

After the case, Detective Constable Declan Cummings, of Weymouth CID, said: “This sentence sends a clear message that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated.

Dorset Police is working hard together with partner agencies to make the town centre a safer place for people living, working and visiting.”

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2:34pm Fri 24 Jan 14

acop40 says...

the real shame of this story is the street cleaner probably did go to university.
the real shame of this story is the street cleaner probably did go to university. acop40

3:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

2539 says...

Exactly, I was a few years above the lad and he didn't have the smoothest of school lives. Much to the enjoyment of those who took great pleasure in picking on him. He did not have any behaviour issues back then (that I am aware of) and only saw his patience ware thin on a few occasions and in my opinion a reaction was well over due by this point. He is by no means a violent person. I know that his father is a very well respected martial arts instructor so his technical knowledge of violence is most likely above average but again, never used this in my presence or as a tool to torment anyone. I can only imagine the amount of times that he may have looked at school staff and others for help with the people who picked on him in his younger years and as always no progress was made. Hence the outbursts towards the police on the night in question when he was seemingly made out to be a culprit instead of a victim. I do not condone assault on a policeman but from personal experience I can imagine that the police officer most likely came into a situation that he was unwise to and most likely too hard again making Tom feel like a victim and unable to turn to the police for support or help as at this point it is them that is making him feel victim.

Chin up Tom you'll be out in no time
Exactly, I was a few years above the lad and he didn't have the smoothest of school lives. Much to the enjoyment of those who took great pleasure in picking on him. He did not have any behaviour issues back then (that I am aware of) and only saw his patience ware thin on a few occasions and in my opinion a reaction was well over due by this point. He is by no means a violent person. I know that his father is a very well respected martial arts instructor so his technical knowledge of violence is most likely above average but again, never used this in my presence or as a tool to torment anyone. I can only imagine the amount of times that he may have looked at school staff and others for help with the people who picked on him in his younger years and as always no progress was made. Hence the outbursts towards the police on the night in question when he was seemingly made out to be a culprit instead of a victim. I do not condone assault on a policeman but from personal experience I can imagine that the police officer most likely came into a situation that he was unwise to and most likely too hard again making Tom feel like a victim and unable to turn to the police for support or help as at this point it is them that is making him feel victim. Chin up Tom you'll be out in no time 2539

3:04pm Fri 24 Jan 14

2539 says...

2539 wrote:
Exactly, I was a few years above the lad and he didn't have the smoothest of school lives. Much to the enjoyment of those who took great pleasure in picking on him. He did not have any behaviour issues back then (that I am aware of) and only saw his patience ware thin on a few occasions and in my opinion a reaction was well over due by this point. He is by no means a violent person. I know that his father is a very well respected martial arts instructor so his technical knowledge of violence is most likely above average but again, never used this in my presence or as a tool to torment anyone. I can only imagine the amount of times that he may have looked at school staff and others for help with the people who picked on him in his younger years and as always no progress was made. Hence the outbursts towards the police on the night in question when he was seemingly made out to be a culprit instead of a victim. I do not condone assault on a policeman but from personal experience I can imagine that the police officer most likely came into a situation that he was unwise to and most likely too hard again making Tom feel like a victim and unable to turn to the police for support or help as at this point it is them that is making him feel victim.

Chin up Tom you'll be out in no time
Oh and by the way... a month off for a broken nose? Milking it a bit I think? Grow a pair PC Hooter.
[quote][p][bold]2539[/bold] wrote: Exactly, I was a few years above the lad and he didn't have the smoothest of school lives. Much to the enjoyment of those who took great pleasure in picking on him. He did not have any behaviour issues back then (that I am aware of) and only saw his patience ware thin on a few occasions and in my opinion a reaction was well over due by this point. He is by no means a violent person. I know that his father is a very well respected martial arts instructor so his technical knowledge of violence is most likely above average but again, never used this in my presence or as a tool to torment anyone. I can only imagine the amount of times that he may have looked at school staff and others for help with the people who picked on him in his younger years and as always no progress was made. Hence the outbursts towards the police on the night in question when he was seemingly made out to be a culprit instead of a victim. I do not condone assault on a policeman but from personal experience I can imagine that the police officer most likely came into a situation that he was unwise to and most likely too hard again making Tom feel like a victim and unable to turn to the police for support or help as at this point it is them that is making him feel victim. Chin up Tom you'll be out in no time[/p][/quote]Oh and by the way... a month off for a broken nose? Milking it a bit I think? Grow a pair PC Hooter. 2539

3:43pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Coxywey says...

Had this not been a police officer I very much doubt he would have been imprisoned, the problem is the police in this town are aggressive and suspect that is how he wasd treated hence he retaliated.

Ridiculous sentence considering what others seem to walk away from.
Had this not been a police officer I very much doubt he would have been imprisoned, the problem is the police in this town are aggressive and suspect that is how he wasd treated hence he retaliated. Ridiculous sentence considering what others seem to walk away from. Coxywey

4:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Captain Truth says...

I cannot believe that people are actually sticking up for this thug. Bottom line, police officer or not, he headbutted somebody. Disgusting actions like that deserve punishment. Any of you sticking up for this man sum up exactly what is wrong with this country. If you support him, you also need locking up.
I cannot believe that people are actually sticking up for this thug. Bottom line, police officer or not, he headbutted somebody. Disgusting actions like that deserve punishment. Any of you sticking up for this man sum up exactly what is wrong with this country. If you support him, you also need locking up. Captain Truth

7:34pm Fri 24 Jan 14

not too distant says...

A case for diminished responsibilities due to concussion?
A case for diminished responsibilities due to concussion? not too distant

8:10pm Fri 24 Jan 14

lilmoorlove says...

funny how you can comment on this story but not the police officer story in yesterdays echo hmmm
funny how you can comment on this story but not the police officer story in yesterdays echo hmmm lilmoorlove

9:22pm Fri 24 Jan 14

ziggystardust says...

Do universities teach braindead yobs how to headbutt these days?

Is going to university to study some worthless degrees somehow make you superior?
Do universities teach braindead yobs how to headbutt these days? Is going to university to study some worthless degrees somehow make you superior? ziggystardust

12:54am Sat 25 Jan 14

Saddler says...

Not a fan of the police. Obviously Tom is not a violent person. !0 months is a stupid sentence, it should have been 10 years, and he should be sharing a cell with the 'policeman', thug from yesterdays story.
Lucky he didn't assault a burglar robbing his own home, now that really is a serious offence
Not a fan of the police. Obviously Tom is not a violent person. !0 months is a stupid sentence, it should have been 10 years, and he should be sharing a cell with the 'policeman', thug from yesterdays story. Lucky he didn't assault a burglar robbing his own home, now that really is a serious offence Saddler

12:59am Sat 25 Jan 14

Captain Truth says...

Saddler wrote:
Not a fan of the police. Obviously Tom is not a violent person. !0 months is a stupid sentence, it should have been 10 years, and he should be sharing a cell with the 'policeman', thug from yesterdays story.
Lucky he didn't assault a burglar robbing his own home, now that really is a serious offence
Obviously Tom is not a violent person????? He head butted a policeman. What a stupid comment to make. Is head butting not violent enough for you!?
[quote][p][bold]Saddler[/bold] wrote: Not a fan of the police. Obviously Tom is not a violent person. !0 months is a stupid sentence, it should have been 10 years, and he should be sharing a cell with the 'policeman', thug from yesterdays story. Lucky he didn't assault a burglar robbing his own home, now that really is a serious offence[/p][/quote]Obviously Tom is not a violent person????? He head butted a policeman. What a stupid comment to make. Is head butting not violent enough for you!? Captain Truth

1:53pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Jakxta says...

Tom is a great guy, and its a shame that the fact that he defended an unconsious lad who was taking a beating isnt the main headline. Tom was my best mategfor years and I know for a fact he is not generally violent. There is only so much someone can take before lashing out. The police clearly didnt handle the situation well considering he was the only person charged. I feel no one has any right to judge him without knowing him. He definitely knows the difference between right and wrong and sadly got caught in a bad situation. Too many people these days just walk by when they see someone getting beaten up and he is a legend for stepping in. Tom feels very strongly about things like this asnhe was bullied all though school because of some stupid rumour someobe made up a long time ago, and he suffered from it for years. Orthority figures did next to nothing to help him though this so I completely understand his thoughts towards them.
Tom is a great guy, and its a shame that the fact that he defended an unconsious lad who was taking a beating isnt the main headline. Tom was my best mategfor years and I know for a fact he is not generally violent. There is only so much someone can take before lashing out. The police clearly didnt handle the situation well considering he was the only person charged. I feel no one has any right to judge him without knowing him. He definitely knows the difference between right and wrong and sadly got caught in a bad situation. Too many people these days just walk by when they see someone getting beaten up and he is a legend for stepping in. Tom feels very strongly about things like this asnhe was bullied all though school because of some stupid rumour someobe made up a long time ago, and he suffered from it for years. Orthority figures did next to nothing to help him though this so I completely understand his thoughts towards them. Jakxta

1:56pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Captain Truth says...

Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.
Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots. Captain Truth

12:06am Sun 26 Jan 14

westbaywonder says...

Captain Truth wrote:
Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.
A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land.
Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one!
[quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.[/p][/quote]A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land. Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one! westbaywonder

12:30am Sun 26 Jan 14

Captain Truth says...

westbaywonder wrote:
Captain Truth wrote:
Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.
A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land.
Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one!
Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.[/p][/quote]A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land. Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one![/p][/quote]Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable. Captain Truth

8:50am Mon 27 Jan 14

2539 says...

Captain Truth wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
Captain Truth wrote:
Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.
A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land.
Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one!
Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable.
Captain Truith is definitely a Policeman lol. You doi not know Tom and you were not there that night. Yes he headbutted a Policeman but as the other comment says, had it have been any other civilian he would have walked free. Grab a donut son,
[quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.[/p][/quote]A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land. Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one![/p][/quote]Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable.[/p][/quote]Captain Truith is definitely a Policeman lol. You doi not know Tom and you were not there that night. Yes he headbutted a Policeman but as the other comment says, had it have been any other civilian he would have walked free. Grab a donut son, 2539

8:56am Mon 27 Jan 14

woodsedge says...

2539 wrote:
Captain Truth wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
Captain Truth wrote:
Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.
A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land.
Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one!
Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable.
Captain Truith is definitely a Policeman lol. You doi not know Tom and you were not there that night. Yes he headbutted a Policeman but as the other comment says, had it have been any other civilian he would have walked free. Grab a donut son,
Don't know about "grab a donut" obviously plenty of donuts posting on here! By your own omission he head butted a police officer who was trying to get him to walk away. He chose not to walk away and committed assault, if you do the crime........
[quote][p][bold]2539[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.[/p][/quote]A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land. Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one![/p][/quote]Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable.[/p][/quote]Captain Truith is definitely a Policeman lol. You doi not know Tom and you were not there that night. Yes he headbutted a Policeman but as the other comment says, had it have been any other civilian he would have walked free. Grab a donut son,[/p][/quote]Don't know about "grab a donut" obviously plenty of donuts posting on here! By your own omission he head butted a police officer who was trying to get him to walk away. He chose not to walk away and committed assault, if you do the crime........ woodsedge

9:50am Mon 27 Jan 14

2539 says...

woodsedge wrote:
2539 wrote:
Captain Truth wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
Captain Truth wrote:
Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.
A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land.
Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one!
Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable.
Captain Truith is definitely a Policeman lol. You doi not know Tom and you were not there that night. Yes he headbutted a Policeman but as the other comment says, had it have been any other civilian he would have walked free. Grab a donut son,
Don't know about "grab a donut" obviously plenty of donuts posting on here! By your own omission he head butted a police officer who was trying to get him to walk away. He chose not to walk away and committed assault, if you do the crime........
Nobody said he dint headbutt the police officer. I just said he's have walked free if it had been a civilian.
[quote][p][bold]woodsedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2539[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.[/p][/quote]A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land. Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one![/p][/quote]Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable.[/p][/quote]Captain Truith is definitely a Policeman lol. You doi not know Tom and you were not there that night. Yes he headbutted a Policeman but as the other comment says, had it have been any other civilian he would have walked free. Grab a donut son,[/p][/quote]Don't know about "grab a donut" obviously plenty of donuts posting on here! By your own omission he head butted a police officer who was trying to get him to walk away. He chose not to walk away and committed assault, if you do the crime........[/p][/quote]Nobody said he dint headbutt the police officer. I just said he's have walked free if it had been a civilian. 2539

11:24am Mon 27 Jan 14

Captain Truth says...

As I said before, if it was you who received the headbutt, you'd would be have a very different point of view. Bottom line, if you break the law, you deserve to be punished.
As I said before, if it was you who received the headbutt, you'd would be have a very different point of view. Bottom line, if you break the law, you deserve to be punished. Captain Truth

12:16pm Mon 27 Jan 14

2539 says...

Captain Truth wrote:
As I said before, if it was you who received the headbutt, you'd would be have a very different point of view. Bottom line, if you break the law, you deserve to be punished.
I would not have a different point of view. If someone headbutted me in town (which has happened) I wouldn't expect them to be imprisoned for it. personally I would not press charges. I am sure however that the CPS would slap them with some sort of meaningless reprimand such as a community order or at very worst have them attend an alcohol awareness / anger management course. I wouldn't expect prison at all. Not even for anyone with a string of violent offences. To sum up my point I am saying that had it been a civilian who fell victim to the assault, regardless of their criminal history, regardless of the provocation (if any) he would not have ended up in prison. This is just a big slap for someone who has assaulted 'one of their own'. He deserves punishment, but not prison.

We this this far too often, I know of another case where someone was CS sprayed from behind by a policeman in Weymouth town centre. As the victim of this did not know who was attacking or what they were attacking with he turned and in self defense (whilst not being able to see) ensured the person (who turned out to be a police officer) hit the Deck. He was hastily arrested for GBH, assaulting a police officer, public order and god knows what else they tried to do him for etc only to have all charges dropped with lack of evidence as the police officer got a little excited with his squirty stuff and he was in fact in the wrong. Another example of the 'all guns blazing' approach where innapropriate. Unfortuantely in this case the person was improsoned and he shouldnt have been. Im sure that the police officer concerned was fit enough for duty well before they went back to work. Im also sure a small amount of compensation had to be paid to them also and Im also sure that they gave Tom more than his fair share in retaliation after getting him back to the cells. I too have fallen subject to such treatment in Weymouth custody suite it was just good luck that the officer who tried to take his anger out on me couldn't get himself out of a wet paper bag if he tried. I took what he gave and did not retaliative (they'd only number up until they had the better hand).
[quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: As I said before, if it was you who received the headbutt, you'd would be have a very different point of view. Bottom line, if you break the law, you deserve to be punished.[/p][/quote]I would not have a different point of view. If someone headbutted me in town (which has happened) I wouldn't expect them to be imprisoned for it. personally I would not press charges. I am sure however that the CPS would slap them with some sort of meaningless reprimand such as a community order or at very worst have them attend an alcohol awareness / anger management course. I wouldn't expect prison at all. Not even for anyone with a string of violent offences. To sum up my point I am saying that had it been a civilian who fell victim to the assault, regardless of their criminal history, regardless of the provocation (if any) he would not have ended up in prison. This is just a big slap for someone who has assaulted 'one of their own'. He deserves punishment, but not prison. We this this far too often, I know of another case where someone was CS sprayed from behind by a policeman in Weymouth town centre. As the victim of this did not know who was attacking or what they were attacking with he turned and in self defense (whilst not being able to see) ensured the person (who turned out to be a police officer) hit the Deck. He was hastily arrested for GBH, assaulting a police officer, public order and god knows what else they tried to do him for etc only to have all charges dropped with lack of evidence as the police officer got a little excited with his squirty stuff and he was in fact in the wrong. Another example of the 'all guns blazing' approach where innapropriate. Unfortuantely in this case the person was improsoned and he shouldnt have been. Im sure that the police officer concerned was fit enough for duty well before they went back to work. Im also sure a small amount of compensation had to be paid to them also and Im also sure that they gave Tom more than his fair share in retaliation after getting him back to the cells. I too have fallen subject to such treatment in Weymouth custody suite it was just good luck that the officer who tried to take his anger out on me couldn't get himself out of a wet paper bag if he tried. I took what he gave and did not retaliative (they'd only number up until they had the better hand). 2539

12:25pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Captain Truth says...

Perhaps if the punishment were more severe, like in this case, it would help to prevent violent incidents. Crime needs to be punished. Maybe people who see this article will think twice before lashing out. As for you not pressing charges, you are foolish. That person who you did not report may go on to do it again, as they received no punishment. Imagine next time they go too far and kill somebody, surely it's better to nip it in the bud early on, and teach them that violence is not acceptable.
Perhaps if the punishment were more severe, like in this case, it would help to prevent violent incidents. Crime needs to be punished. Maybe people who see this article will think twice before lashing out. As for you not pressing charges, you are foolish. That person who you did not report may go on to do it again, as they received no punishment. Imagine next time they go too far and kill somebody, surely it's better to nip it in the bud early on, and teach them that violence is not acceptable. Captain Truth

7:43pm Mon 27 Jan 14

westbaywonder says...

Captain Truth wrote:
westbaywonder wrote:
Captain Truth wrote:
Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.
A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land.
Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one!
Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable.
Dont think we all run to the police to solve problems becouse we dont,hell best you can hope for now is crime ref number,about as much use as a used bus ticket.
If i had a broken nose i would run to plod,not the way we were brought up im afraid.
Some people like the plastic army ,some dont!
[quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westbaywonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Truth[/bold] wrote: Who cares what he suffered at school, that doesn't give him the right to assault a police officer!!! Idiots.[/p][/quote]A uniformed citizen (police officer) ,please remember they are far from angels and are no better than anyone who walks this land. Love the (Uniform on so they must be treated like gods mentality) made me laugh for years that one![/p][/quote]Whether you like them or not, they are there to enforce the law. The law is there to keep us safe. This guy broke the law, therefore he deserves to go to prison. People are suggesting that what he did was acceptable, imagine if that was the case, the streets would be filled with hooligans and people would fear the thought of leaving their homes. I wonder if you would all feel this strongly if you were to be head butted. Would it still be okay if you were the one with the broken nose? Somehow I think you might quickly change your views on what you feel is acceptable.[/p][/quote]Dont think we all run to the police to solve problems becouse we dont,hell best you can hope for now is crime ref number,about as much use as a used bus ticket. If i had a broken nose i would run to plod,not the way we were brought up im afraid. Some people like the plastic army ,some dont! westbaywonder

7:53pm Mon 27 Jan 14

westbaywonder says...

There is a nasty smell on this thread,one that many of us have smelt before!
There is a nasty smell on this thread,one that many of us have smelt before! westbaywonder

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