UPDATE: Staff fear for jobs after last-minute changes to HMP The Verne plans

EXCLUSIVE: HMP The Verne to be turned back in to a prison

EXCLUSIVE: HMP The Verne to be turned back in to a prison

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A LAST-MINUTE decision to keep HMP The Verne open as a prison has been condemned.

Employees were reportedly told yesterday that due to ‘overcrowding in the prison service’ The Verne will not become an immigration removal centre as planned until later this year.

Prison Service bosses insist that it will still hold illegal immigrants and that the decision to revert to prison status was just a ‘temporary measure’.

But staff said they were ‘very unhappy’ at the late-notice announcement as the first immigration detainees are due to arrive on Monday.

The Ministry of Justice insisted there are ‘no current plans to review staff levels’.

But employees have said it is ‘just a matter of time’ before prisoners are re-allocated to Portland, wasting millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money.

One source said: “I believe they are planning to have both immigration detainees and Category C prisoners at HMP The Verne.

“Apparently there could be detainees in part of the prison and inmates in another.

“It beggars belief. There is massive overcrowding in the prison service and over the last few weeks there have barely been 100 spaces in the system.

“They have closed all these prisons and now they have nowhere to put inmates.

“The prison service is in crisis. There is an increasing population of prisoners and they’ve got nowhere to put them.

“What they’re essentially saying by keeping HMP The Verne as a prison is ‘we will be putting immigration detainees here, but we may also fill it up with prisoners’.”

Another source described the inside of the prison as ‘a building site’.

He added: “There are only two units ready for work and still around 80 contractors on site.

“Our main concern is that we have got all the staff here ready for the immigration centre and the prison will not need as many people, so jobs are at risk.”

It is believed around £8m has been spent on the re-role of the prison.

The former Victorian barracks, transformed into a jail more than 60 years ago, is due to house 580 people waiting to be removed from the UK.

South Dorset MP Richard Drax, pictured left, has said he believes the move has been made to ‘give the justice department a bit more flexibility’.

He said he had been assured there would not be any job losses or changes for the future plans for HMP The Verne.

He added: “I was as surprised as everyone else to hear the news that The Verne would remain an HMP. This, I think, is giving the justice department a little bit more flexibility until September.

“Retaining the name is not going to affect the plans for the prison in the future.”

The situation will be reviewed by the Ministry of Justice in September.

A Ministry of Justice spokesman said: “HMP The Verne will begin holding immigration detainees from Monday, March 24.

“Build-up to its total capacity will be completed by September.

“While build-up takes place and until refurbishment is completed, NOMS will retain The Verne as a prison, but it will hold exclusively detainees on behalf of the Home Office.

“This temporary arrangement does not affect the number of staff employed.

“There are no current plans to review staff levels.”

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12:48pm Wed 19 Mar 14

elloello1980 says...

LOL! good news for the town, but laughable nonetheless :)
LOL! good news for the town, but laughable nonetheless :) elloello1980
  • Score: 7

1:21pm Wed 19 Mar 14

WEYMOUTH BORNANDBRED says...

Cant be serious... after all the money and time spent changing it all, not to mention disruption to all the staff. Are they totally mental..??
Cant be serious... after all the money and time spent changing it all, not to mention disruption to all the staff. Are they totally mental..?? WEYMOUTH BORNANDBRED
  • Score: 26

1:27pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Laadeeda says...

Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!!

Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!!

Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!!

Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money!
Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money! Laadeeda
  • Score: 27

1:37pm Wed 19 Mar 14

jjlad2 says...

Somebody's head should roll for this, we are talking about public money being wasted yet again, and also the fear of more guys losing thier jobs. if a proper thought through investigation was conducted at the outset, this could have been prevented. Govt projects like this and many others that have failed, should give Tax payers a rebate (tongue in cheek), we would all be wealthy now.
Somebody's head should roll for this, we are talking about public money being wasted yet again, and also the fear of more guys losing thier jobs. if a proper thought through investigation was conducted at the outset, this could have been prevented. Govt projects like this and many others that have failed, should give Tax payers a rebate (tongue in cheek), we would all be wealthy now. jjlad2
  • Score: 32

1:51pm Wed 19 Mar 14

MrTomSmith says...

Surely, 12 months ago, 18 months ago, or whenever, they have a ball park figure as to how many prison places they need. So Surely they always make sure they have enough to cover and don't close places until others are open.

Then, they change/close places with the 100000% knowledge that they will never ever be required again.............ev
er.

Or maybe not. INCREDIBLE!

The person responsible should be named and fired.
Surely, 12 months ago, 18 months ago, or whenever, they have a ball park figure as to how many prison places they need. So Surely they always make sure they have enough to cover and don't close places until others are open. Then, they change/close places with the 100000% knowledge that they will never ever be required again.............ev er. Or maybe not. INCREDIBLE! The person responsible should be named and fired. MrTomSmith
  • Score: 20

2:15pm Wed 19 Mar 14

cosmick says...

You could not make it up. The money spent on this project that we did not want in the first place, whoever made the latest change of plan has made a bad waste of tax payers money. Who decided this? Any money lost should be recoverd back from them, after all its our money they have wasted.
A big thank you to everyone who went down an offered there help to the poor people who were deing deported because they should not be here. Maybe they could stay at your houses to be educated in the British way of life. Or maybe the Goverment will give them bail and they just report to the local closed down police station.
Good old Britain.
You could not make it up. The money spent on this project that we did not want in the first place, whoever made the latest change of plan has made a bad waste of tax payers money. Who decided this? Any money lost should be recoverd back from them, after all its our money they have wasted. A big thank you to everyone who went down an offered there help to the poor people who were deing deported because they should not be here. Maybe they could stay at your houses to be educated in the British way of life. Or maybe the Goverment will give them bail and they just report to the local closed down police station. Good old Britain. cosmick
  • Score: 16

2:31pm Wed 19 Mar 14

portland rebel says...

be funny if it wasnt true, could only happen in the uk.
be funny if it wasnt true, could only happen in the uk. portland rebel
  • Score: 16

3:28pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Sigurd Hoberth says...

Public sector employs more idiots than anyone else.
Absolutely stupid, incompetent and wasteful.
Public sector employs more idiots than anyone else. Absolutely stupid, incompetent and wasteful. Sigurd Hoberth
  • Score: 15

3:36pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Oldman of Charmouth says...

This is an appalling way for a Government to behave. Millions of pounds of taxpayers money wasted (and they blame the Banks for our financial state). If I wasted money in this was in my job I would be instantly sacked. The jails have been overcrowded for years what in hells name did they think was going to happen when the closed these jails in the first place.
This is an appalling way for a Government to behave. Millions of pounds of taxpayers money wasted (and they blame the Banks for our financial state). If I wasted money in this was in my job I would be instantly sacked. The jails have been overcrowded for years what in hells name did they think was going to happen when the closed these jails in the first place. Oldman of Charmouth
  • Score: 27

3:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Weston7 says...

Somebody failed to do their homework on prisoner numbers. The population hasn't suddenly increased. Hand the Verne back to Portland, it's a magnificent place worthy of better than this.
Somebody failed to do their homework on prisoner numbers. The population hasn't suddenly increased. Hand the Verne back to Portland, it's a magnificent place worthy of better than this. Weston7
  • Score: 15

4:27pm Wed 19 Mar 14

sunny1966 says...

Laadeeda wrote:
Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money!
Its always been a holiday centre or didnt you realise that :)
[quote][p][bold]Laadeeda[/bold] wrote: Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money![/p][/quote]Its always been a holiday centre or didnt you realise that :) sunny1966
  • Score: 9

4:29pm Wed 19 Mar 14

sunny1966 says...

Laadeeda wrote:
Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money!
But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP.
[quote][p][bold]Laadeeda[/bold] wrote: Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money![/p][/quote]But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP. sunny1966
  • Score: 8

4:55pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Sigurd Hoberth says...

Why on Earth has the Echo censored the 12 comments from this story? I saw them and none were offensive etc?
Why on Earth has the Echo censored the 12 comments from this story? I saw them and none were offensive etc? Sigurd Hoberth
  • Score: 12

4:56pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Sigurd Hoberth says...

Now they have re-appeared again? WTH?
Now they have re-appeared again? WTH? Sigurd Hoberth
  • Score: 9

5:48pm Wed 19 Mar 14

portlandpete says...

It is a good job the government powers that be don't run a private business as they would be bust on there first day,millions of pounds wasted with the closure of Dorchester prison which was refurbished costing millions just before being closed and now totally empty patrolled by security guard's and now it would seem the same is being repeated on Portland,common sense prevails surely would be to reopen Dorchester Prison.Maybe they thought there would be a massive reduction in crime. duuuu.
It is a good job the government powers that be don't run a private business as they would be bust on there first day,millions of pounds wasted with the closure of Dorchester prison which was refurbished costing millions just before being closed and now totally empty patrolled by security guard's and now it would seem the same is being repeated on Portland,common sense prevails surely would be to reopen Dorchester Prison.Maybe they thought there would be a massive reduction in crime. duuuu. portlandpete
  • Score: 17

6:55pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Tinker2 says...

MrTomSmith wrote:
Surely, 12 months ago, 18 months ago, or whenever, they have a ball park figure as to how many prison places they need. So Surely they always make sure they have enough to cover and don't close places until others are open. Then, they change/close places with the 100000% knowledge that they will never ever be required again.............ev er. Or maybe not. INCREDIBLE! The person responsible should be named and fired.
Prison Population Statistics (House of Commons Library)
Standard Note: SN/SG/4334 Last updated: 29 July 2013

Quote: "General Statistics
A prison is overcrowded when the number of prisoners held exceeds the establishment’s Certified Normal Accommodation (CNA). The CNA is the Prison Service’s own measure of accommodation and represents the decent standard of accommodation that the Prison Service aspires to provide all prisoners.
At the end of June 2013, 69 prison establishments in England and Wales (56% of the estate) were overcrowded. In nine of these establishments the population was at least 150% of the CNA figure.2"

OK, so the authorities knowing that over half of the existing UK prisons were overcrowded 9 months ago, close Gloucester, Shepton Mallet, Dorchester and the Verne, to name but a few, without having first built the new modern super-size prisons proposed to replace them?
Immediate problem arises that they do not have sufficient capacity and seek to reopen the Verne.
Incredible incompetence! and these decision makers are in control of spending vast amounts of public funds! ........ Beggars belief!
[quote][p][bold]MrTomSmith[/bold] wrote: Surely, 12 months ago, 18 months ago, or whenever, they have a ball park figure as to how many prison places they need. So Surely they always make sure they have enough to cover and don't close places until others are open. Then, they change/close places with the 100000% knowledge that they will never ever be required again.............ev er. Or maybe not. INCREDIBLE! The person responsible should be named and fired.[/p][/quote]Prison Population Statistics (House of Commons Library) Standard Note: SN/SG/4334 Last updated: 29 July 2013 Quote: "General Statistics A prison is overcrowded when the number of prisoners held exceeds the establishment’s Certified Normal Accommodation (CNA). The CNA is the Prison Service’s own measure of accommodation and represents the decent standard of accommodation that the Prison Service aspires to provide all prisoners. At the end of June 2013, 69 prison establishments in England and Wales (56% of the estate) were overcrowded. In nine of these establishments the population was at least 150% of the CNA figure.2" OK, so the authorities knowing that over half of the existing UK prisons were overcrowded 9 months ago, close Gloucester, Shepton Mallet, Dorchester and the Verne, to name but a few, without having first built the new modern super-size prisons proposed to replace them? Immediate problem arises that they do not have sufficient capacity and seek to reopen the Verne. Incredible incompetence! and these decision makers are in control of spending vast amounts of public funds! ........ Beggars belief! Tinker2
  • Score: 19

7:54pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Sigurd Hoberth says...

They are trying to find a way to prep the grounds for full privatisation of prisons, a couple of hiccups along the way are inevitable.
They are trying to find a way to prep the grounds for full privatisation of prisons, a couple of hiccups along the way are inevitable. Sigurd Hoberth
  • Score: 4

8:38pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Hunter4 says...

Don't be surprised if they re open HMP Dorchester next month. You heard it here first!
Don't be surprised if they re open HMP Dorchester next month. You heard it here first! Hunter4
  • Score: 13

8:21am Thu 20 Mar 14

pajero4x4 says...

At the end of the day it is a secure facility for convicted prisoners. Those responsible for the mess will never be identified,it happens all of the time.I think Dorchester will re-open soon.
At the end of the day it is a secure facility for convicted prisoners. Those responsible for the mess will never be identified,it happens all of the time.I think Dorchester will re-open soon. pajero4x4
  • Score: 9

5:29pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Peter6 says...

"Apparently there could be detainees in part of the prison and inmates in another."
This could explain all the extra fences put up within the prison walls to segregate certain areas.
Must have cost the taxpayers millions.
"Apparently there could be detainees in part of the prison and inmates in another." This could explain all the extra fences put up within the prison walls to segregate certain areas. Must have cost the taxpayers millions. Peter6
  • Score: 9

6:43pm Thu 20 Mar 14

wurzelbasher says...

This fiasco epitomises the out-of touch type of central Government we have. They haven't got a clue what they're doing!
This fiasco epitomises the out-of touch type of central Government we have. They haven't got a clue what they're doing! wurzelbasher
  • Score: 13

7:19pm Thu 20 Mar 14

wurzel55 says...

The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing! Sorry I forgot that this is the work of our incompetent government. They don't even know there are two hands! Civil servants and council workers "on the front line" doing the real work lose their jobs but the wasters at top both civil servants and government are safe from accountability to the public. How much has this last minute change of plan cost?
The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing! Sorry I forgot that this is the work of our incompetent government. They don't even know there are two hands! Civil servants and council workers "on the front line" doing the real work lose their jobs but the wasters at top both civil servants and government are safe from accountability to the public. How much has this last minute change of plan cost? wurzel55
  • Score: 12

10:33pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Laadeeda says...

For me, it's top level Civil Serpants that are the ones at fault. Ministers will just sign off on anything thrust in front of them.

Governments change and the same top CS's are in situ to advise. Hence why no matter which party is in power little is changed. I dare say UKIP with all the rhetoric of changing all will hit the Senior Civil Service brick wall.

The Verne is doomed to be a political Yo Yo for this year at least.
For me, it's top level Civil Serpants that are the ones at fault. Ministers will just sign off on anything thrust in front of them. Governments change and the same top CS's are in situ to advise. Hence why no matter which party is in power little is changed. I dare say UKIP with all the rhetoric of changing all will hit the Senior Civil Service brick wall. The Verne is doomed to be a political Yo Yo for this year at least. Laadeeda
  • Score: 7

8:21am Fri 21 Mar 14

jjlad2 says...

Vote UKIP at the next election and you wont need to worry about immagration centres. mind you, you will have to worry about a lot of other things though!
Vote UKIP at the next election and you wont need to worry about immagration centres. mind you, you will have to worry about a lot of other things though! jjlad2
  • Score: -3

9:46am Fri 21 Mar 14

Melthevw says...

This is a farce. There is no way they can have the prison part detention centre and part Cat C prison as one set are NOT prisoners! How on earth are the officers supposed to get their heads around that? Security and rights are different for each group, guaranteed provisions are different,
Also, the last five paragraphs are totally at odds with the headline and the rest of the piece.
This is a farce. There is no way they can have the prison part detention centre and part Cat C prison as one set are NOT prisoners! How on earth are the officers supposed to get their heads around that? Security and rights are different for each group, guaranteed provisions are different, Also, the last five paragraphs are totally at odds with the headline and the rest of the piece. Melthevw
  • Score: 11

1:45pm Fri 21 Mar 14

livid99 says...

sunny1966 wrote:
Laadeeda wrote:
Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money!
But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP.
Come on UKIP ?? Are you serious ? Do you really think this country would be better off with that bunch of clowns in charge ? They blame all the problems in this country on immigrants. Thats it, thats all they do. How would they get the country good again ? Immigrants are what keep this country running..
[quote][p][bold]sunny1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laadeeda[/bold] wrote: Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money![/p][/quote]But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP.[/p][/quote]Come on UKIP ?? Are you serious ? Do you really think this country would be better off with that bunch of clowns in charge ? They blame all the problems in this country on immigrants. Thats it, thats all they do. How would they get the country good again ? Immigrants are what keep this country running.. livid99
  • Score: 15

9:45pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Laadeeda says...

livid99 wrote:
sunny1966 wrote:
Laadeeda wrote:
Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money!
But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP.
Come on UKIP ?? Are you serious ? Do you really think this country would be better off with that bunch of clowns in charge ? They blame all the problems in this country on immigrants. Thats it, thats all they do. How would they get the country good again ? Immigrants are what keep this country running..
I suppose your correct. We now have a Border Agency which we wouldn't have had were it not for immigration, so that means jobs.
[quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sunny1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laadeeda[/bold] wrote: Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money![/p][/quote]But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP.[/p][/quote]Come on UKIP ?? Are you serious ? Do you really think this country would be better off with that bunch of clowns in charge ? They blame all the problems in this country on immigrants. Thats it, thats all they do. How would they get the country good again ? Immigrants are what keep this country running..[/p][/quote]I suppose your correct. We now have a Border Agency which we wouldn't have had were it not for immigration, so that means jobs. Laadeeda
  • Score: 8

11:27am Sun 6 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

Teach them Not to Mess about with The New Boy!!
Teach them Not to Mess about with The New Boy!! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 7

1:35am Tue 8 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

Laadeeda wrote:
livid99 wrote:
sunny1966 wrote:
Laadeeda wrote:
Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money!
But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP.
Come on UKIP ?? Are you serious ? Do you really think this country would be better off with that bunch of clowns in charge ? They blame all the problems in this country on immigrants. Thats it, thats all they do. How would they get the country good again ? Immigrants are what keep this country running..
I suppose your correct. We now have a Border Agency which we wouldn't have had were it not for immigration, so that means jobs.
Look at the Brains on Brad!!
[quote][p][bold]Laadeeda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sunny1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laadeeda[/bold] wrote: Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money![/p][/quote]But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP.[/p][/quote]Come on UKIP ?? Are you serious ? Do you really think this country would be better off with that bunch of clowns in charge ? They blame all the problems in this country on immigrants. Thats it, thats all they do. How would they get the country good again ? Immigrants are what keep this country running..[/p][/quote]I suppose your correct. We now have a Border Agency which we wouldn't have had were it not for immigration, so that means jobs.[/p][/quote]Look at the Brains on Brad!! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 9

11:11am Tue 8 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

Melthevw wrote:
This is a farce. There is no way they can have the prison part detention centre and part Cat C prison as one set are NOT prisoners! How on earth are the officers supposed to get their heads around that? Security and rights are different for each group, guaranteed provisions are different,
Also, the last five paragraphs are totally at odds with the headline and the rest of the piece.
That's how the Verne Basically was previously, 50%ish were Foreign Nationals.
I think that it should be Sold and turned into a Hotel!
[quote][p][bold]Melthevw[/bold] wrote: This is a farce. There is no way they can have the prison part detention centre and part Cat C prison as one set are NOT prisoners! How on earth are the officers supposed to get their heads around that? Security and rights are different for each group, guaranteed provisions are different, Also, the last five paragraphs are totally at odds with the headline and the rest of the piece.[/p][/quote]That's how the Verne Basically was previously, 50%ish were Foreign Nationals. I think that it should be Sold and turned into a Hotel! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 9

3:17pm Thu 10 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

iclosedtheverne wrote:
Laadeeda wrote:
livid99 wrote:
sunny1966 wrote:
Laadeeda wrote:
Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money!
But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP.
Come on UKIP ?? Are you serious ? Do you really think this country would be better off with that bunch of clowns in charge ? They blame all the problems in this country on immigrants. Thats it, thats all they do. How would they get the country good again ? Immigrants are what keep this country running..
I suppose your correct. We now have a Border Agency which we wouldn't have had were it not for immigration, so that means jobs.
Someone a lot more Powerful than All of those Poor Mans Freemasons put together!!
UKIP can't form a Government!
Only Labour have a Majority and they do not Support Freemasons!
Labour does not accept Freemasons into the Party and I have Labour Support for a Register of Freemasons to Help put a Stop to Official Corruption!
Surprise Me Kirst!
[quote][p][bold]iclosedtheverne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laadeeda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]livid99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sunny1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laadeeda[/bold] wrote: Some one in power is playing with their Yo-Yo!!!! Next decision. Verne to become Holiday Centre!!!! Maybe a Army Barracks? Nope - they have done that!! Make your minds up and stop wasting tax payers money![/p][/quote]But the funny thing is, people will still vote this government into power, Come on UKIP.[/p][/quote]Come on UKIP ?? Are you serious ? Do you really think this country would be better off with that bunch of clowns in charge ? They blame all the problems in this country on immigrants. Thats it, thats all they do. How would they get the country good again ? Immigrants are what keep this country running..[/p][/quote]I suppose your correct. We now have a Border Agency which we wouldn't have had were it not for immigration, so that means jobs.[/p][/quote]Someone a lot more Powerful than All of those Poor Mans Freemasons put together!![/p][/quote]UKIP can't form a Government! Only Labour have a Majority and they do not Support Freemasons! Labour does not accept Freemasons into the Party and I have Labour Support for a Register of Freemasons to Help put a Stop to Official Corruption! Surprise Me Kirst! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 5

3:18pm Thu 10 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

WEYMOUTH BORNANDBRED wrote:
Cant be serious... after all the money and time spent changing it all, not to mention disruption to all the staff. Are they totally mental..??
Conspiracy and or Misconduct in Public Office is VERY SERIOUS!
[quote][p][bold]WEYMOUTH BORNANDBRED[/bold] wrote: Cant be serious... after all the money and time spent changing it all, not to mention disruption to all the staff. Are they totally mental..??[/p][/quote]Conspiracy and or Misconduct in Public Office is VERY SERIOUS! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 3

3:24pm Thu 10 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

Sigurd Hoberth wrote:
They are trying to find a way to prep the grounds for full privatisation of prisons, a couple of hiccups along the way are inevitable.
Prep the Grounds.
Ha, Ha!
[quote][p][bold]Sigurd Hoberth[/bold] wrote: They are trying to find a way to prep the grounds for full privatisation of prisons, a couple of hiccups along the way are inevitable.[/p][/quote]Prep the Grounds. Ha, Ha! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: -5

3:25pm Thu 10 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

They call it MAGIC!
They call it MAGIC! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 6

3:56am Sat 12 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

pajero4x4 wrote:
At the end of the day it is a secure facility for convicted prisoners. Those responsible for the mess will never be identified,it happens all of the time.I think Dorchester will re-open soon.
At the end of the Day You go to Sleep!!
[quote][p][bold]pajero4x4[/bold] wrote: At the end of the day it is a secure facility for convicted prisoners. Those responsible for the mess will never be identified,it happens all of the time.I think Dorchester will re-open soon.[/p][/quote]At the end of the Day You go to Sleep!! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: -3

4:02am Sat 12 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

Stop deleting My Comments!
The Verne Screws Had been Bullying And Torturing Inmates!
They had to be taught a Lesson.
Torturing British Prisoners in a British Prison.
Come on, they're Sick!!
I met a Woman who worked at the Verne. She told Me that someone She knew had been Raped and the Offender was on Remand at Dorchester.
Then She told Me that She knew a Senior Officer at the Verne who could get this Rapist "Set Up" and Hurt in Dorchester. Corruption!
The Rest, is HISTORY!!
GOODBYE TORTURERS!!
Don't Worry Echo, I don't need to say their Names.
They are going onto the New Freemason Register!!
Stop deleting My Comments! The Verne Screws Had been Bullying And Torturing Inmates! They had to be taught a Lesson. Torturing British Prisoners in a British Prison. Come on, they're Sick!! I met a Woman who worked at the Verne. She told Me that someone She knew had been Raped and the Offender was on Remand at Dorchester. Then She told Me that She knew a Senior Officer at the Verne who could get this Rapist "Set Up" and Hurt in Dorchester. Corruption! The Rest, is HISTORY!! GOODBYE TORTURERS!! Don't Worry Echo, I don't need to say their Names. They are going onto the New Freemason Register!! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 5

3:36pm Sat 12 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

Made to live in Constant Fear or just like The Police 6 of Them will Jump You!
I AM A VICTIM OF TORTURE AT HMP THE VERNE, PORTLAND, DORSET, DT5 1EQ.
The Torture would take many Guises!!¬
Constant Incitement!! Trying to deliberately incite Inmates. Out here that would be Public Order section 2 and they'd go to Prison!
Their Dentist, go for a routine Filling in No Pain at all and later be in Agony where He deliberately created a Fault! Ban!!
Others with Toothache refused Treatment. I had to take My own Tooth out once as I couldn't Sleep!
Severe Psychological Interrogation!!
The Police put them up to it!! Anyone suspected of other Crimes was TORTURED!! And Threats of Physical Violence plus they get other Inmates to become their Stools!
Why does Portland have 6 Masonic Lodges? On the Square, they are Bent! From Planning to Torture!!
You cannot have a 2 Tier System!
1 man goes to Court for say GBH and gets 6 Years another who did worse was given Community Service! These aren't Our Peers but Morons!
Why does the Prison Population keep rising, because they send them out so Angry that Many just cannot Help Themselves!!
They are Not Rehabilitating Prisoners but winding them up like Coiled Spring and then sending them down into Your Town upon release!!
Freemasons are going on a Register! They were anyhow although after this fiasco!
Labour do not Support Freemasons! But they support a Register!
Freemasons Register and Official Corruption shall dwindle!
But All Verne Staff are going to be replaced!¬!
Compensation, about 10 Million so they did Me a Favour in a way although have given Me a Severe Emotional/Psychologi
cal Disability!!
Don't know what they are Flapping about, do the Crime do the Time
I Warned You what I'd do to You! Ya Laughed.
But I'm Laughing Now because Most of You are going to Lose Your Homes and have to relocate from Your Beloved Dorset! To Wales.
GOODBYE!!
Made to live in Constant Fear or just like The Police 6 of Them will Jump You! I AM A VICTIM OF TORTURE AT HMP THE VERNE, PORTLAND, DORSET, DT5 1EQ. The Torture would take many Guises!!¬ Constant Incitement!! Trying to deliberately incite Inmates. Out here that would be Public Order section 2 and they'd go to Prison! Their Dentist, go for a routine Filling in No Pain at all and later be in Agony where He deliberately created a Fault! Ban!! Others with Toothache refused Treatment. I had to take My own Tooth out once as I couldn't Sleep! Severe Psychological Interrogation!! The Police put them up to it!! Anyone suspected of other Crimes was TORTURED!! And Threats of Physical Violence plus they get other Inmates to become their Stools! Why does Portland have 6 Masonic Lodges? On the Square, they are Bent! From Planning to Torture!! You cannot have a 2 Tier System! 1 man goes to Court for say GBH and gets 6 Years another who did worse was given Community Service! These aren't Our Peers but Morons! Why does the Prison Population keep rising, because they send them out so Angry that Many just cannot Help Themselves!! They are Not Rehabilitating Prisoners but winding them up like Coiled Spring and then sending them down into Your Town upon release!! Freemasons are going on a Register! They were anyhow although after this fiasco! Labour do not Support Freemasons! But they support a Register! Freemasons Register and Official Corruption shall dwindle! But All Verne Staff are going to be replaced!¬! Compensation, about 10 Million so they did Me a Favour in a way although have given Me a Severe Emotional/Psychologi cal Disability!! Don't know what they are Flapping about, do the Crime do the Time I Warned You what I'd do to You! Ya Laughed. But I'm Laughing Now because Most of You are going to Lose Your Homes and have to relocate from Your Beloved Dorset! To Wales. GOODBYE!! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 7

3:38pm Sat 12 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

Last Minute Job Fears, Now They know how it feels to live in Fear!!
But what got Me was that there had to be about 10 of them!
Bunch Of Women!!
Darren New.
White British and Tortured by My own Government!
Grandfather is turning in His Grave!!
Last Minute Job Fears, Now They know how it feels to live in Fear!! But what got Me was that there had to be about 10 of them! Bunch Of Women!! Darren New. White British and Tortured by My own Government! Grandfather is turning in His Grave!! iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 7

3:41pm Sat 12 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

Gerry, Gerry, Gerry
Gerry, Gerry, Gerry iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 6

12:39am Mon 14 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

All Comes out in the Wash.
My Solicitor did work for the CPS but left about 28 Years ago. Because of the Corruption. And it isn't getting Any Better.
That is the Only Non Corrupt Solicitors I know of!
I told Him what they'd done to Me and it was Closed "Suddenly" Overnight. Last October. Had to Move over 500 Prisoners in a Day! The same that happened at HMP Blundeston.
Our Time has come.
Maybe I'll buy the Verne with My Compensation!
Did You see the Suicide in 2004? I was there then. He died on B2.
That was because They were Bulling Him and took His Television!!
That Place is an Insult to Humanity and the Free World remaining a Prison.
I want to see it Closed. Over 60 Years Old.
That Style of Prison is too Expensive!
In the Operating Year before Closure have a look how many Inmates were thrown out and had to go Winchester or wherever.
That Place is a Torture Chamber.
I Would Really Like To See It Go, Please!!
Knock it down and Rebuild it by All Means.
Thanks for listening Everyone, You've been most Kind.
I used to stay up in Corscombe. Down to the Fox. Or Evershot.
Used to drink a lot. Not had any for 3 Years.
Not many People quit it Altogether.
All the best to the Good People up there!
Newy.
All Comes out in the Wash. My Solicitor did work for the CPS but left about 28 Years ago. Because of the Corruption. And it isn't getting Any Better. That is the Only Non Corrupt Solicitors I know of! I told Him what they'd done to Me and it was Closed "Suddenly" Overnight. Last October. Had to Move over 500 Prisoners in a Day! The same that happened at HMP Blundeston. Our Time has come. Maybe I'll buy the Verne with My Compensation! Did You see the Suicide in 2004? I was there then. He died on B2. That was because They were Bulling Him and took His Television!! That Place is an Insult to Humanity and the Free World remaining a Prison. I want to see it Closed. Over 60 Years Old. That Style of Prison is too Expensive! In the Operating Year before Closure have a look how many Inmates were thrown out and had to go Winchester or wherever. That Place is a Torture Chamber. I Would Really Like To See It Go, Please!! Knock it down and Rebuild it by All Means. Thanks for listening Everyone, You've been most Kind. I used to stay up in Corscombe. Down to the Fox. Or Evershot. Used to drink a lot. Not had any for 3 Years. Not many People quit it Altogether. All the best to the Good People up there! Newy. iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 4

3:26pm Wed 16 Apr 14

iclosedtheverne says...

19th March. That was My Brothers birthday. Ha. The Day that this was announced! Proper Magic, Not Portland YTS 6 Lodges.
Fortune Favours the Brave. I beat the Lot of THEM!!
By Your Doors For Roll Check!! As someone has Previously mentioned the Verne should be returned to the Good People of Portland.
It has absolutely No place in the New Criminal Justice System that is to rise from Their Ashes! Torturing Inmates. That's the Devil Worshipping. Very Sick! And fair enough Echo You deleted the one with the Names in but You also deleted 3 or 4 Others. Are You In On This??? No one has even Reported Allegations of Torture!! And as someone else rightly pointed out it is Misconduct In Public Office. Extremely Serious!
You've heard of I Shot the Sheriff.
Well I Captured The Kanga's! Kangaroo's, Screws.
I warned them, they laughed at Me!
Didn't see Anyone Laughing when We had Them Closed Overnight!
He who Laughs Last Laughs The Loudest and Folks that Guys Marsh is another Centre of Torture!! Wonder how many Lodges Shaftesbury has!!
Clean Yourselves Up Or It Shall Be Done For You!!
Well they may have taken down their names although it was only Some of their Surnames Anyhow!! Or the Individuals concerned may consider legal Action. Ideal, I get a Free Court Case!! As if they're going to take Me to Court after Torturing Me!
Trojan.
19th March. That was My Brothers birthday. Ha. The Day that this was announced! Proper Magic, Not Portland YTS 6 Lodges. Fortune Favours the Brave. I beat the Lot of THEM!! By Your Doors For Roll Check!! As someone has Previously mentioned the Verne should be returned to the Good People of Portland. It has absolutely No place in the New Criminal Justice System that is to rise from Their Ashes! Torturing Inmates. That's the Devil Worshipping. Very Sick! And fair enough Echo You deleted the one with the Names in but You also deleted 3 or 4 Others. Are You In On This??? No one has even Reported Allegations of Torture!! And as someone else rightly pointed out it is Misconduct In Public Office. Extremely Serious! You've heard of I Shot the Sheriff. Well I Captured The Kanga's! Kangaroo's, Screws. I warned them, they laughed at Me! Didn't see Anyone Laughing when We had Them Closed Overnight! He who Laughs Last Laughs The Loudest and Folks that Guys Marsh is another Centre of Torture!! Wonder how many Lodges Shaftesbury has!! Clean Yourselves Up Or It Shall Be Done For You!! Well they may have taken down their names although it was only Some of their Surnames Anyhow!! Or the Individuals concerned may consider legal Action. Ideal, I get a Free Court Case!! As if they're going to take Me to Court after Torturing Me! Trojan. iclosedtheverne
  • Score: 6

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